October 22, 2025 • 40 mins
We’re back with neuroscientist Dr. Nicole Tetreault, who explains how to literally get rage out of your body without losing your mind. Everyone’s anger looks different and so does everyone’s release. You might find that smashing a bunch of sh*t in a rage room is your nervous system’s best therapy.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
You know what's really been frustrating me lately is like,
I'm on dating apps, okay, and we all we know it.
If you have a receding hairline, okay, it's okay. Don't
have all of your pictures wearing a freaking hat, and
or your pictures from college rate a full head of hair.
(00:37):
And now when I meet you, you're freaking bald. I
do not care. What that says to me is you're uncomfortable,
and now I'm uncomfortable and goodbye.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, I think the problem is too, is like, do
you plan on wearing a hat for the rest of
your life? Makes the situations because at some point the
hat's gonna come. I mean, you sit with your hat on,
and if we are, that's that's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I mean, I I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It's no you know why it would be nervous about it.
You're gonna get knocked right in the head, even worse,
right in the eye that bill. You're gonna get knocked
right in the face with that bill.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
She's right, you can't really juice it kissing wise with
the hat on, though, You've got to flip it. Oh,
but they could flip it. I bet you the hat
wearers they flip it during juice.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And so it's just they're always in a hat. They're
also they're gonna sleep in the hat with you. They're
gonna and then that's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Then you're you never wanted them to take the hat off.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm with you, you never want him to take the
hat off. Well, or you do put it in the
washing machine because it got this it has a sweat
line around it. Oh god, when you see the sweat
line on a hat and you're like, why have.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You not my forehead and in dent, No one's gonna
like that.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And you know what the thing is. I it doesn't
matter if you are bald or if you have hair,
but if you're trying to hide it, and then you're
all so posting a picture of you from ten years
ago when you had hair, but you I show up
to the date and you do not.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Look like that.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, that gives me some rage. You just wasted my
time because I'm telling you right now, I know that
you're not comfortable with who you are, and so I'm
not gonna beat and I can't say you yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
The bald it's not the baldness.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It's not that.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It's not that it's real, the concealing of who you are.
I know, we've been doing a lot of tennis dust stuff. Yeah, yeah,
it's something that has come up.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
From watching the US Open, there appears to be a
trend in fashion. There's a double poof tennis dress. The
people are getting into.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
What does this meant? By the boon dock?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So Naomi Asaka, who we love, she was rocking this
purple double poof Okay, So it's like it looks like
like a cake.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Topper or something.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And it's not just the one poof. It's a double
layer of poof.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I'm just like.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Why though, I mean, it's cute, is it? Though? I
don't know, and I don't know how functional it is.
It seems like the ball could get caught in the
poof and and two times it has an opportunity to
get caught in a poof because it's a double poof.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Listen, if you want to get noticed on tennis day,
you're gonna have to switch it.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Up, I know.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
But if you want to make sure that you don't
get distracted, when you're going to get that ace.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
No air gets caught. Nope. If I'm wearing a double
poof and you're on the other side, you're getting distracted
by the you're getting distracted. And now it's a distraction.
I've won the US Open. Ah ah and double poof,
double poof. Thank you you finished.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It because you look like a poodle while you're playing.
And that's enough of a just I don't know, I
just it's a lot of poof. I mean, well, well,
I'm cool with the ruffle. It just seems like it's also.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It's so hot.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It's a lot of material. It's not like it's a
very thing. It's a big poof.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Anyways, should we drop in. Let's drop in.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Welcome to the Rage Pod, where we rage against the serene.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And everything in between.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I'm with Ebar and I'm with Tara Erickson, and we're
so excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Today.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
We are talking with a very special guest. Yeah, her
name is doctor Nicole te Trault, but we call her
doctor Nicole. And she is a neuro scientist, not to
be confused with a neurologist. She's a neuroscientist, It's true.
And we had such a great time talking to her
(04:49):
about rage on the brain, and it extended into this
conversation about how we deal with that rage and like
sort of physically, how that manifests conjunction with our psychological needs.
And we're really excited to share that conversation with you all.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I agree, and I ask her a real quick fire
questions true or false, and it's fun and that'll that'll
pop up at the end. But we love her.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
We met her.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
If you guys haven't listened to part one, go listen
to it. But we met her at a rage ground
where she was raging. We were raging.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And the rage ground is a rage room that you
can go to and beat the shit out of a
bunch of stuff and it's super fun, including a car
if you want.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
If you want to beat the shit out.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Of car and go there.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
The music is very loud, but we're okay with it.
It's just it was very loud.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It was so much fun.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
We didn't know what I did it right. To be honest,
we've talked a lot about like, did we do it right?
Maybe we didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I don't know. I don't think that we did. Because
I heard that you can go to different rage rooms,
so you can actually play your own music.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
What well that changes. That's a horse of a different color.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I am telling you that right now, Like I can
you guys let us know once you watched this, like
you see in our instagram, we've dropped the rage ground,
our rage footage. But like, wouldn't it be fun if
we went to a rage room and we had our
own music playlist A pageless yes, because we talked about
(06:19):
how we didn't really we weren't there really at the
right time. We talked about this with doctor.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And we did on the last episode.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, she went there at the right time. She were
writy to rage, and we just went we'll going to
a rage when we're doing the rage pod and we
kind of got tired after like ten minutes. And now
I'm thinking, but the music was really loud. The other
people we hear them yelling about their rage, and I'm like,
I wanted to be a private experience of my own music.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I think it would be helpful at a place like that.
I'm not saying that this is doable, but to almost
have someone that's like a guide there m hm, because
you are gonna you're not always like a job I
don't know if I need a full shaman. No shaman
comes with a lot of like silver lake beads and
(07:08):
a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
We're fine with it. We want to rage shaman.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I don't want to. I don't know if I need
a shaman.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I just need somebody that can like walk you through
no matter where you're at with your rage, right, Like,
because that was what our issue was, is that we
might have been too far distance from our rage versus
because she was like, I have the shame that just happened.
Not everyone's gonna go to a rage room and be
primed in this like perfect place, right, So, like, how
(07:36):
do you channel you know, maybe going back to a
place that you you know that did bring you rage,
or saying like hey, just because you don't feel like
you're super embittered or angered right now, this is still
really helpful.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I I think some sort of guidance, right might.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Be of use, shaman. So are you reaching for the mic, Wendy?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
I was gonna say, you don't need forty five minutes,
you need a quick ten to fifteen smash a bunch
of shit and then you're done.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
What if someone's really enraged that they need the forty five.
Maybe they need different increments of time. Is it only
forty five minutes?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I think it was a yeah, so maybe you need
a little rage tremor time of like fifteen minutes. But
then some people are like, I'm really fucking pissed.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I think that if you time it and you go
to time when you're really mad, you make a quick appointment,
you're gonna take up the full forty five. It's fully
worth it. We just went to experience it, and I
will tell you that. You know, I was tired after
twenty I was like, yeah, I'll hit some stuff still, but.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I was tired after one tea cup. It's a good workout.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
It is a good work work well.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Also you're in like full hasmatch or Nobyl gear, so
you're like sweating inside.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You got a helmet totally, you're all covered up.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's a lot, but you know, it's kind of like therapy, right,
Like sometimes you go to therapy and you're like, I
don't know that I have fifty minutes.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Of shit in Oh god, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And sometimes you've got the whole You've got the whole bang.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
So it just it's a therapeutic exercise.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I'm with you all this.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Sometimes you're just like, all right, I'm just gonna keep
breaking shit.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I guess we've got so we've got to get in
the cunt of the weak teaser and just a reminder,
kind of the week stands for courageous, unapologizing toris ten
of a one man. So I say them sash animal.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And in this case we've got a twosome a duo.
Well that really just they never they never hold back.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
They never hold back. But like in a real way.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I think a lot of people say I don't give
a fuck r I never hold back, but they actually
like don't like.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So I can't.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Excited to reveal that later.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I love that. And we also have got to get
into the Rage hotline. We will eventually later, but just
in case you guys are just joining in, you've got
to call us at two and three two nine three
five nine ninety five, or you can email us at
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dot com.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
So today we are sharing our conversation that we had
with doctor Nicole te Trault, who we call doctor Nicole.
We kind of force her into accepting it. Actually, no,
she's super cool and she lets us call her doctor Nicole.
She's a neuroscientist. In our last episode with her, we
talked to her about rage on the brain. It was
(10:24):
so cool to hear her really describe in a way
that's digestible of what happens when we rage. Yeah, and
this conversation we really dig into what we do with
it and how that affects us and how it's different
for everyone. So we hope you enjoy this conversation totally.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
The reality is is that we're all interdependent and interconnected
on one another. Right, we can't do everything by ourselves.
We need other people to be not dependent, but we
need them to when you know, not all of us,
Like people right now are struggling from isolation.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yes we've talked about this on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Absolutely, and then that creates more separateness, more otherness, more division,
and then that isolation feeds into that further separation. And
so it's actually when you have somebody you can trust
and you could say, like I need help, that's the
first step where you're kind of opening up that window
(11:31):
of vulnerability and like it's almost the space of love
and understanding. Right. So, for example, like if you have
a teenager and they you're going into their room and
you're cooking him dinner every night, and every night they
don't want to eat what you cook, and you're a
vegetarian and they want a hamburger and you're like, eat
my food and they don't want that. Well, that's actually
(11:53):
not helpful to them, right, that's not love. That's loving.
It's a loving action to cook for someone, but it's
not love with understanding because it's not a meal that
they can actually eat.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
When you're imposing your belief system onto them.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yeah, and so the big part where we get in
rageful interactions with the ones we love is that it
has to do with a misunderstanding and the expectation behind
that love. And so if we can communicate and say,
oh wait, you want a hamberer, I'll make that for you,
and they eat that, then that's love with understanding. It's
(12:28):
not doing harm to them, it's not doing harm to yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I guess you've kind of talked about this, like with
just sort of the anxiety depression. But when you get
that like a cute, fiery response like gonna I'm gonna
light up Freddy Wendy here for a moment. Like she
was telling me the other day that she heard someone
scraping their fork on their plate, and like, I think
(12:53):
she took everything in her power not to blow up
the building. Like what like in your work, you see
that Obviously we're going to talk about on a different episode,
Like there's some misophonia going on there.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, yeah, but like.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Kind of like breaking it down in the simplest way,
like what's happening with us when that's going down?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Because I feel violent inside.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yes, when I hear somebody chewing, if I hear any
sort of like mouth noises, I feel violent. We know, Well,
that's also a sensory sensitivity that people have heightened levels
of sensory processing. So I talk about in my book
like no two brains are alike. We each have our
own brain fingerprint. And so misophonia is very common for
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people who are gifted, and so they can hear things
at an elevated level and it could cause actual a
It can actually cause an anxiety response in their nervous system.
Because so for example, fluorescent lights can be another thing,
and so there are things that in our system, like
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in our environment that can be causing a response that
comes across as anxiety or irritability, but at the core
of it, somebody is actually suffering.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
See I love hearing this because you said it means
you're gifted. Because I'm going to tell you right now,
glass plates anything, glass people put in glass plates, ceramic plates.
I don't do it. I swear to you. In my
house it's plastic. It's like kids plastic because the sound
of the clunk after you clean it, and the clunk
I can't stand it. I really can't. So now I
(14:33):
think you're straight up gifted.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Gifted. Absolutely, someone seizes I'm I'm just like I get
in my car.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Gifted.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Gifted.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, let's go for it.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well, doctorle is actually gifted.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well she's legitimately term you're legit.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I've graduated, you're creative.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Writers, I mean, brilliant women, all of you.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
We give gifts. Yeah, we're trying our best. Okay, So
we want to talk about different types of rage. Like
so mainly it's like how does it translate in the brain,
the nervous system. If there's like here's a few examples,
like loud, explosive rage, silent rage, continuous little outbursts, like
(15:19):
what's actually going on in our brains when we're in
a like a full like I'm fine spiral, but like
you're internally you're dying inside.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
So in like active rage, like when somebody is just
full blown having a moment and.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
The stroller in the parking lot.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah yeah, but that I.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Mean is even it's pretty timid.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I would say.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
We're talking like raging bulk Okay, Yeah, in a full
blown like rage attack, you know, like a panic attack
or is like you have a lot of brain systems
going on.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
So you have a hypothalamus which is like releasing cortisol.
You have your adrenalines are are going so that's really
seeing adrenaline from your adrenaline adrenaline glands. And then you
have a bunch of things going on in your migdala,
So your migdala is going into that like primary fight
and flight brain and then basically that higher order thinking,
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the frontal cortex is suppressed and you're basically acting out
where That's why sometimes when people are in an episode
of rage, they can't even remember. Yeah, they like they
almost black out because it's sort of not even taken
into their memory system because they're acting from such a
(16:35):
primal state. And then so when you also have like
that little outbursts of like aggression that happens, you know,
those are like that's like a momentary inflammatory response, but undercurrent,
like that person is suffering. Right, So like there's you
could end up having like tension in your body, headaches,
(16:58):
you get that sense of overwhelmed. That's where even you
could get into elements of panic, Like when you're in
that level of suppression, right, that's where you could be
in that freeze mode and more subdued and sort of
like you sort of have that fragility, that ego at fragility,
and you don't you don't even go there with certain people.
(17:19):
You're like I just can't take this. I'm not going
to do this, and and you detach. But it's not
really in a way that serves you or the other
person to be able to find a place of agreement
on it.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, I like understanding because you just leave it. Yeah,
because you don't even know how to approach it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
And so suppression over time, I mean it's gonna come
out yea. And over time, you're just physiologically you're not
you're not going to be able to be kind of
honest and communicating with others because there's going to be
an under the undercurrent of it is going to be
that emotional anger, sadness, frustration, the feelings of not being met,
(18:06):
not being seen, not being heard, and so then you're
still kind of taking on you know. It's kind of
like I think about it with Richard Schwartz's work, like
Parts work that he talks about where the parts of
us that have been traumatized in that suppression piece is
the piece that he calls that we exile ourselves out.
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And then there's the piece of us that are the
firefighters that kind of are those first responders to when
an emotional thing happens. And then there are our managers
who tell us like, it's all okay, It's all gonna
be okay. And so the real deal is that we
have to come back to that exiled part of ourselves
in that space of acceptance and that space of like
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compassion and saying okay, like nurturing that part of us
that has been suppressed and hurt and and nurture like
a baby.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
That's like rage room love letter to me, right, like
you got it. You got to get down, you gotta
write that letter, you can get in touch with it,
and then you can have the convo.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah you know, yeah, and then you can have the
release at the rage room too.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It also sounds like it's getting down with some vessel
vandal k.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, you know we're gonna have you
on too, Bessel.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Just wait.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah, that'd be a matter of time.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
If the body keeps a score.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well, I think we've kind of already answered that next
question to you. Yeah, so I kind of want to
like shift into what I know you talk a lot about,
which is like moving rage out of our subtle physical
and mental bodies.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
And how do we start to do that is get
up close and personal with it and with our experiences,
you know, And it's through really mindfulness practices simply when
that rage arises, Like the simplest, easiest practice that has
been given to us from ancient stages is like three
deep breaths, like literally three D for us, we activate
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the parasympathetic nervous system, reduce that sympathetic activation that happens
during rage through negative emotions, and it also resets us
and it kind of recalibrates us where we can settle
down and then begin to like be aware of what's
arising inside of us.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
What happens if someone does that and then they're like okay, now,
but I'm still like raging and I'm still going to scream?
Is it like, oh maybe I don't know what is?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
What would that look like for you?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
So the awareness would be like I'm screaming now in
this experience, I am screaming and hold it with like
awareness and compassion.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I actually love that. Yeah, yeah, we need you gotta
remember that, you know.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I mean the biggest the biggest thing is like knowing
when you're in that experience and understanding I think. And
then the second part is like bearing witness like this
is happening, I'm really hurt, I'm really frustrated this, you know,
things aren't okay, and acknowledging that how it hurts, and
then coming back to like compassionately connecting with yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, being okay that like that's where you're at. Yeah,
this is where I'm at, instead of trying.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
To resist it or judge it. Yeah, like this is
where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
We're not going to be here forever. Let's just be
here and then we're going to move on right into
the next stage, whatever that is.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
And I feel like I want to ask you, like,
how how do you think we're supposed to exist, you know,
in an attention deficit, hyper stimulated culture. Yeah, while everybody's
also maybe trying to be mindfully less reactive, Like how
does that? How do you do it? I mean I
think it's probably what you've You've already answered this, right
mindfulness and stuff like that, But like what's like your go.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
To for that?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Yeah, I mean really put down your phone? Yeah, take
a walk in nature.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Like the biggest thing is I tell people always to
identify a nurture list, So like, what are ten things
that you could like journal down right now that would
be supportive to your healing process whatever that is, Like
taking a baths, simple cup of tea, Like anything that
restores you is a really important element to get back
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to your who.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You are telling my cat that I love him so
much for the eightieth thousand fucking Yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Brings you to absolutely cats are their freaking best.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I realize today.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I go, I said to Ben, I go, I now
get it. People look at the pope the way that
I look at my cat.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
God, bless God, bless Hala. Yep.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yet he's the best he is though I can tell it's.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Like, well, cats really have a lot. They kind of
have it figured out.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Oh my god, right, oh god, they're healers.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
But we got to ask you before we move on.
We're going to play a little game here in a bit,
like right before we get out. But what are like
the ways that we can shift rage into like of
radical self acceptance?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
So how do you shift out of love to rage?
Is really it's basically identifying first like what is causing
the rage, like I've already said, but underneath that is
coming back to what's inhibiting you to touch Touch that
(23:23):
rage with tenderness, So you touch it with tenderness, and
then you come into those love based emotions of compassion,
joy and really being able to connect with those emotions
and if those are really hard, which sometimes you're like,
how can I love this right now? This is so painful?
(23:44):
Is really just sitting with that and sitting with the
awareness of that and to recognize like that, you know,
it's kind of a beautiful mess that we live in,
Like each of us like has a microcosm of the
universe inside of us to be able to connect with,
but we feel that disconnection and so really it's coming
(24:05):
back to the connection of yourself. And I would say,
like from a very spiritual standpoint, like for who I am,
like hands down, you know, I ask for help, I
ask the Divine Mother, I ask anybody who can lend
a hand and say, hey, this is hard, help me here,
you know, I think sometimes you know, the three things
(24:28):
that we know that help us work through our fear
is really like the first thing is recognizing the things
that make us happy. The second thing is understanding what
the fear is and being expressed and shifting from that
fear slash rage state into love by action that can
be take that comes from courage, and that's really like,
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courage is our response to rage and fear because it's
responding with compassion and wisdom. And then the third thing
is asking for help.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, that's probably the hardest thing.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
You know, we can't do it alone.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I love that you said, how can I love this
thing that's so painful?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
That's like such a great thing I think for us
to think about that's so cool because you can kind
of start to maybe reframe how you look at things
that are really hard.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, and it's our lessons, right, it's these lessons Like
for me, like the hardest thing was the irony of
living with being an neuroscientist and my mom having a
NERD degenerative disorder and not fixing it, and then also
being aware that like this is my lesson, this is
my lesson, it's beyond science.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, and kind of bowing down to that, you know,
And it's I think a big thing too, is like
you know, when we surrender and let go, that's like
where we really grow.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
So we want to play a little fun little game
with you where you take us out where you're just
gonna simply answer like yes or no with a quick explanation.
Why doesn't have to.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Be too long?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
You feel like a sentence yes?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Perfect?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, perfect?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Right?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Okay, Okay, so we're trying to think a word count.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I knew it.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I knew it. Yeah. She like in your book talked
about when you came across math you were like, oh
my god, I get all of this.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
This is the language. I understand.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I love it. Okay. So the first one is we
only use ten percent of our brain.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Not true, And we use all of our brain most
of the time.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I love that so great.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, only maybe ten percent is lit up during different activities.
But yeah, we use a lot of different networks. Just
just to simply problem to solve, we use twenty eight
different brain regions.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Hearing that, Okay, meditation can solve everything.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Meditation is a practice, in a in a tool that
can help regulate our nervous system and connect us to
other people.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Okay, do you feel like it could solve a lot?
Speaker 4 (27:02):
It could solve a lot, but and and I think
there's more. There's no cure, there's no Yeah, you know,
I'm not I'm not a snake oil salesman, you know.
I mean, it could help with a lot, But I
think there are also a lot of other tools like therapy.
There's medication, there are certain things wimming, you know, taking vacations, laughing.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, oh heck yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Art Art is good.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Doing art is amazing. Art is a meditation.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Like heck, Cary, I'm down with you with that. Okay.
Rage is toxic and should be avoided at all costs.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
No, rage is a normal human experience and you just
have to learn how to manage it, and you know,
communicate with courage and wisdom.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And get to that place where you're like, I love
it right now, It's okay, take deep breasts, meditate, and
then move on and move on.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Speaking of moving on, I know how you're gonna to
this one. Neurodivergent just means quirky.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Absolutely not. You have different brain wiring that's happening in
communication and production styles.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
You can rewire your brain in twenty one days.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Never, No, you could rewire different neural patterns. On average
takes sixty six days, but it could take up to
two hundred and sixty eight days depending on the task
and how difficult it is.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Math she did it.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
And also, our frontal lobe is developing into our mid thirties.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I learned that from your book as well.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
And it still is developing five but it's still developing now. Okay, mindfulness, mindfulness.
Mindfulness is a way that you can rewire your frontal
lobe too.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Love it, Okay, tap into that all right.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Women are just more emotional than men. No, yeah, simple,
brains are very similar. The brains are very similar. We
think that they're way different, but.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
The actual structures are very very similar. The differences really
rely on the way we're socially conditioned.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That's right, nature versus nurture. Baby, Okay, crystals can change
your brain waves.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
What kind of crystals we're at that.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
If you're anxious, you're doing mindfulness wrong.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
No, anxiousness is a part of experiencing the whole spectrum
of mindfulness.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Or we got two more. Once your brain is wired
in a certain way, it stuck like that, never love it.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
And the last one, Crying is weakness.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Crying is a beauty. Biology of tears are just They
give you the same endorphins as when you laugh. So
crying is healthy for you, Well, then we're very healthy.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
It's sobbing.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Well, thank you so much, doctor Nicole, and your full
name is doctor Nicole Tatsralt. You said it, well, I
studied a little bit of French.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yes, this really has been amazing and inspiring and there's
so much more that we could talk to you about.
But people can find you on Instagram at Awesome neuro.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And they can read Insight to the Bright Mind, that
is your book before we move on, show them for me,
can you zoom in?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Oh wait, we're not that kind of show, and we're not.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
And you can also find out about all the awesome
work she does with meditation and send him for courses
at her website, which is www. Is that timoy W's
www dot Nicole tarlt dot com.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Easy. And I just want to say, you guys, you
should really read her book. There's a great story that
you share about when you were younger and you were
in class and you solved an equation on the board
that no one else could solve. And you know what
this lady did, this teacher she brought her up there
chapter shirt in because they were what you were thirteen fourteen?
(30:59):
Is that right? Chutter shirt? And said turned her to
the front of the class and said, look how thin
she looks after she just she just beautiful minded the
equation on the fucking board. I was raging out reading
it for you while she's talking to a future neuroscientist.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I'm shook. I'm shook. We need what was the teacher's name?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
And it was at a Catholic school too.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I figured when you said the wait shirt and I
was like, that sounds like a uniform.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Oh, doctor Nicole, I mean look at you go now,
like you're really just that teacher. She's probably not still
alive and you're winning.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I just reallyincarnated.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
She reincardinated is a Buddhist monk.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Then could maybe she'll be my next teacher.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
She was dead in my mind because I don't like
what she did. I think it's wacky, do freaking wild.
We love you for having here, Thank you for joining me.
Thank you so much. See you AmAm.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
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leave us a message.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
All right, guys, here is our first phone call.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
I've been told since I was younger, like how I'm
supposed to dress? How I shouldn't wear certain things because
men keep looking, or how I should cover up, or
how I should wear something else, And it's just like,
why is that my problem? Like you can't control where
you're looking. That is definitely a you issue. I'm gonna
wear whatever I want to wear because it's my body
and I can express myself however I want to.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I'm with her, Yeah, I mean, I completely agree.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
It's just a sad part of the world that we
live in, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
But as two women, we support you.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
You absolutely shouldn't have to be thinking about you what
you wear.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Men don't think about it at all.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Men don't walk out of the house ever and are
worried like, oh my god, a woman is gonna come
over and think that because I'm wearing this tank top
that she can corner me in a room and force
me to have sex with her. Like it's just like,
that's just like a non thing.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I'm with you. I've been watching Hunt for Love on HBO,
and I will tell you one of the guys walked
out in a freaking speed out and everyone's like, oh God,
look at Todd or whatever his name was, and and
like he's got his jump I mean it's just so
like right there, but it's like, look it's hod ha
ha ha exactly, it's funny. It's not a big deal.
(34:10):
And you know what, I think us as women, you
know that, like if your boobs are out or your
buck's out, you're like you're gonna get some looks. We
just hope that like the looks are like just don't
stare at it or be freaking awkward about it, like
I you know, for me, like i would get a
girl walking down the street where I'm like, dang, that
girl looks good, but I'm not gonna be like mo, like,
(34:32):
just don't be a dick about it, be be polite
and respectful and move on.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
This is our other call.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Hey, ladies, this is David, first time caller.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I need to know what to do with my rage
when I'm stuck behind a way mo driver, list.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Car and get around it.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And then when you finally do get around it, there's
no one to flip off. What do I do? Please
give me some advice. Oh god, it's so true though,
like it totally takes away the fun of road rage.
Weimo does totally because it's.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I mean, you know what I'll tell him is like
what I do, Dave is like what I think pisces
off the driver more and I know it's not gonna
work on weimo. Is like when you don't make eye contact,
you don't flick them off because you just think you're
like unbothered.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
So you mean like just treat the weimo like they're
a human.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, because you like you've said that that you're like, oh,
I just.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Won't give eye contact if someone's like skip done something
to scorn me. But like it doesn't matter if you
give eye contact totally, it's a robot.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Oh my god, I have a solution. You can honk
at him like hardcore like twenty four to seven a
girl hop because it's not a human.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Now. I don't know what the word I think when
Dave's saying though, is that like he doesn't get the
satisfaction of getting like some sort of reaction from doing that, Like.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
There's been satisfaction from honk in the whole.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Well it kind of goes it's kind of like the
rage ground kind of thing, like do you get satisfied
just from like hitting out things?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
So he might want like to hurt the feelings of
the person behind the call Yeah, he's.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Got to flip the bird. You know what, I would
try to just like flip the bird at the way
most feel. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Now, sometimes it is it's just about writing the letter,
it's not actually reading it aloud. We got to get
into cunt of the week.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
This week's cunt of the week are two writers, comedians, showrunners, directors.
Well one's more of a director who I know has
definitely shaped a lot of my life in terms of
content that's had a lasting effect on me.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Wendy, how am I talking about? Who are cunts of
the week?
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Our cunts of the week this week are the Matt
Stone and Trey Parker.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
All Right, the geniuses behind South Park.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
And and and book Mormon Right and Salute Yeah, Book
of Sutally cas and a nine hundred million dollar paramount
deal for what I've got.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Fork for South Park, Right, they have for making such
an irreverent and an unconditionally irreverent show for like they
get all the freedom in the world, and I fucking
love it. Like they don't have to adhere to a schedule,
Like they get to make episodes when they want to
make episodes of talk about fuck you money yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Fuck you schedules. It's like the schedules like totally, no,
we're not doing it this week.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
But here's the thing right now, why they're constantly week
They are comedians that are actually they have comedic integrity.
We are living in a time where you see so
many comedians suck in the dick of the authority, afraid
that they're going to lose favor, they're going to lose power,
(37:57):
and there's no constitution of like, hey, comedy is about
standing up to power, shining a light and finding finding
what is funny, ridiculous, obscene about any situation. And that's
who they've been all along and they have never wavered
from that. When they went to the Academy Awards, they
wore dresses and they took acid.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
I love that they like, I'm very reluctant.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
To ever use the phrase they really do not give
a fuck.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
And they have become insanely.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Rich off of that Rock and Rollers.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But they like for this season of South Park, they're
actually showing Trump with his face because the last time
Trump was in office, Yeah, like we're not going to
show his face. Oh.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
I think it was also kind of a like.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
No, we're not going to give him yea a microphone,
but now things are so insane.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
They're like, nope, that's it.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
We're fucking changing it up. And then they give him
a little tiny micro penis and they it's just to.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Get to see through the pants. Or is he naked?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Oh no, no he's naked. Oh no, it's always a
micro opena. It's just it's it's a beautiful thing. I
love there, and uh, six Days to Air is a
great documentary that shows how grueling the process to make
a single episode of South Park is. It's absolutely insane.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
So we're gonna we gotta close this out. You guys
got to make sure that you follow us at the rage.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Pod on it's of our socials.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, email us at the rage at theagepod dot com.
Tell us where you're pissed about, Wendy.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
What's our number?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Two one three two nine three five nine nine five great?
Speaker 1 (39:31):
And you can watch full episodes on YouTube so you
see our faces if you want to know what we
look like. Oh yeah, and you can actually get merch
on our website, the ragepod dot com. Please go get it.
We have really cool mugs and cool pillows and like
a bunch of stuff, candles and stuff. Somebody's phone is
ringing and I'm trying to get out my rage.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Shut the fuck up, it's actually my computer.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Okay, all right, let's keep breathing. One two three, Rage
screaming to your pillow.
You know what's really been frustrating me lately is like,
I'm on dating apps, okay, and we all we know it.
If you have a receding hairline, okay, it's okay. Don't
have all of your pictures wearing a freaking hat, and
or your pictures from college rate a full head of hair.
(00:37):
And now when I meet you, you're freaking bald. I
do not care. What that says to me is you're uncomfortable,
and now I'm uncomfortable and goodbye.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, I think the problem is too, is like, do
you plan on wearing a hat for the rest of
your life? Makes the situations because at some point the
hat's gonna come. I mean, you sit with your hat on,
and if we are, that's that's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I mean, I I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It's no you know why it would be nervous about it.
You're gonna get knocked right in the head, even worse,
right in the eye that bill. You're gonna get knocked
right in the face with that bill.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
She's right, you can't really juice it kissing wise with
the hat on, though, You've got to flip it. Oh,
but they could flip it. I bet you the hat
wearers they flip it during juice.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And so it's just they're always in a hat. They're
also they're gonna sleep in the hat with you. They're
gonna and then that's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Then you're you never wanted them to take the hat off.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm with you, you never want him to take the
hat off. Well, or you do put it in the
washing machine because it got this it has a sweat
line around it. Oh god, when you see the sweat
line on a hat and you're like, why have.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You not my forehead and in dent, No one's gonna
like that.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And you know what the thing is. I it doesn't
matter if you are bald or if you have hair,
but if you're trying to hide it, and then you're
all so posting a picture of you from ten years
ago when you had hair, but you I show up
to the date and you do not.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Look like that.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, that gives me some rage. You just wasted my
time because I'm telling you right now, I know that
you're not comfortable with who you are, and so I'm
not gonna beat and I can't say you yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
The bald it's not the baldness.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It's not that.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It's not that it's real, the concealing of who you are.
I know, we've been doing a lot of tennis dust stuff. Yeah, yeah,
it's something that has come up.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
From watching the US Open, there appears to be a
trend in fashion. There's a double poof tennis dress. The
people are getting into.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
What does this meant? By the boon dock?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So Naomi Asaka, who we love, she was rocking this
purple double poof Okay, So it's like it looks like
like a cake.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Topper or something.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And it's not just the one poof. It's a double
layer of poof.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I'm just like.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Why though, I mean, it's cute, is it? Though? I
don't know, and I don't know how functional it is.
It seems like the ball could get caught in the
poof and and two times it has an opportunity to
get caught in a poof because it's a double poof.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Listen, if you want to get noticed on tennis day,
you're gonna have to switch it.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Up, I know.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
But if you want to make sure that you don't
get distracted, when you're going to get that ace.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
No air gets caught. Nope. If I'm wearing a double
poof and you're on the other side, you're getting distracted
by the you're getting distracted. And now it's a distraction.
I've won the US Open. Ah ah and double poof,
double poof. Thank you you finished.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It because you look like a poodle while you're playing.
And that's enough of a just I don't know, I
just it's a lot of poof. I mean, well, well,
I'm cool with the ruffle. It just seems like it's also.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It's so hot.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It's a lot of material. It's not like it's a
very thing. It's a big poof.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Anyways, should we drop in. Let's drop in.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Welcome to the Rage Pod, where we rage against the serene.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And everything in between.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I'm with Ebar and I'm with Tara Erickson, and we're
so excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Today.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
We are talking with a very special guest. Yeah, her
name is doctor Nicole te Trault, but we call her
doctor Nicole. And she is a neuro scientist, not to
be confused with a neurologist. She's a neuroscientist, It's true.
And we had such a great time talking to her
(04:49):
about rage on the brain, and it extended into this
conversation about how we deal with that rage and like
sort of physically, how that manifests conjunction with our psychological needs.
And we're really excited to share that conversation with you all.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I agree, and I ask her a real quick fire
questions true or false, and it's fun and that'll that'll
pop up at the end. But we love her.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
We met her.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
If you guys haven't listened to part one, go listen
to it. But we met her at a rage ground
where she was raging. We were raging.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And the rage ground is a rage room that you
can go to and beat the shit out of a
bunch of stuff and it's super fun, including a car
if you want.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
If you want to beat the shit out.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Of car and go there.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
The music is very loud, but we're okay with it.
It's just it was very loud.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It was so much fun.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
We didn't know what I did it right. To be honest,
we've talked a lot about like, did we do it right?
Maybe we didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I don't know. I don't think that we did. Because
I heard that you can go to different rage rooms,
so you can actually play your own music.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
What well that changes. That's a horse of a different color.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I am telling you that right now, Like I can
you guys let us know once you watched this, like
you see in our instagram, we've dropped the rage ground,
our rage footage. But like, wouldn't it be fun if
we went to a rage room and we had our
own music playlist A pageless yes, because we talked about
(06:19):
how we didn't really we weren't there really at the
right time. We talked about this with doctor.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And we did on the last episode.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, she went there at the right time. She were
writy to rage, and we just went we'll going to
a rage when we're doing the rage pod and we
kind of got tired after like ten minutes. And now
I'm thinking, but the music was really loud. The other
people we hear them yelling about their rage, and I'm like,
I wanted to be a private experience of my own music.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I think it would be helpful at a place like that.
I'm not saying that this is doable, but to almost
have someone that's like a guide there m hm, because
you are gonna you're not always like a job I
don't know if I need a full shaman. No shaman
comes with a lot of like silver lake beads and
(07:08):
a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
We're fine with it. We want to rage shaman.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I don't want to. I don't know if I need
a shaman.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I just need somebody that can like walk you through
no matter where you're at with your rage, right, Like,
because that was what our issue was, is that we
might have been too far distance from our rage versus
because she was like, I have the shame that just happened.
Not everyone's gonna go to a rage room and be
primed in this like perfect place, right, So, like, how
(07:36):
do you channel you know, maybe going back to a
place that you you know that did bring you rage,
or saying like hey, just because you don't feel like
you're super embittered or angered right now, this is still
really helpful.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I I think some sort of guidance, right might.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Be of use, shaman. So are you reaching for the mic, Wendy?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
I was gonna say, you don't need forty five minutes,
you need a quick ten to fifteen smash a bunch
of shit and then you're done.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
What if someone's really enraged that they need the forty five.
Maybe they need different increments of time. Is it only
forty five minutes?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I think it was a yeah, so maybe you need
a little rage tremor time of like fifteen minutes. But
then some people are like, I'm really fucking pissed.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I think that if you time it and you go
to time when you're really mad, you make a quick appointment,
you're gonna take up the full forty five. It's fully
worth it. We just went to experience it, and I
will tell you that. You know, I was tired after
twenty I was like, yeah, I'll hit some stuff still, but.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I was tired after one tea cup. It's a good workout.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
It is a good work work well.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Also you're in like full hasmatch or Nobyl gear, so
you're like sweating inside.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You got a helmet totally, you're all covered up.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's a lot, but you know, it's kind of like therapy, right,
Like sometimes you go to therapy and you're like, I
don't know that I have fifty minutes.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Of shit in Oh god, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And sometimes you've got the whole You've got the whole bang.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
So it just it's a therapeutic exercise.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I'm with you all this.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Sometimes you're just like, all right, I'm just gonna keep
breaking shit.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I guess we've got so we've got to get in
the cunt of the weak teaser and just a reminder,
kind of the week stands for courageous, unapologizing toris ten
of a one man. So I say them sash animal.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And in this case we've got a twosome a duo.
Well that really just they never they never hold back.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
They never hold back. But like in a real way.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I think a lot of people say I don't give
a fuck r I never hold back, but they actually
like don't like.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So I can't.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Excited to reveal that later.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I love that. And we also have got to get
into the Rage hotline. We will eventually later, but just
in case you guys are just joining in, you've got
to call us at two and three two nine three
five nine ninety five, or you can email us at
rage at the Ragepod dot com. That's Rage at theagepod
dot com.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
So today we are sharing our conversation that we had
with doctor Nicole te Trault, who we call doctor Nicole.
We kind of force her into accepting it. Actually, no,
she's super cool and she lets us call her doctor Nicole.
She's a neuroscientist. In our last episode with her, we
talked to her about rage on the brain. It was
(10:24):
so cool to hear her really describe in a way
that's digestible of what happens when we rage. Yeah, and
this conversation we really dig into what we do with
it and how that affects us and how it's different
for everyone. So we hope you enjoy this conversation totally.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
The reality is is that we're all interdependent and interconnected
on one another. Right, we can't do everything by ourselves.
We need other people to be not dependent, but we
need them to when you know, not all of us,
Like people right now are struggling from isolation.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yes we've talked about this on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Absolutely, and then that creates more separateness, more otherness, more division,
and then that isolation feeds into that further separation. And
so it's actually when you have somebody you can trust
and you could say, like I need help, that's the
first step where you're kind of opening up that window
(11:31):
of vulnerability and like it's almost the space of love
and understanding. Right. So, for example, like if you have
a teenager and they you're going into their room and
you're cooking him dinner every night, and every night they
don't want to eat what you cook, and you're a
vegetarian and they want a hamburger and you're like, eat
my food and they don't want that. Well, that's actually
(11:53):
not helpful to them, right, that's not love. That's loving.
It's a loving action to cook for someone, but it's
not love with understanding because it's not a meal that
they can actually eat.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
When you're imposing your belief system onto them.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yeah, and so the big part where we get in
rageful interactions with the ones we love is that it
has to do with a misunderstanding and the expectation behind
that love. And so if we can communicate and say,
oh wait, you want a hamberer, I'll make that for you,
and they eat that, then that's love with understanding. It's
(12:28):
not doing harm to them, it's not doing harm to yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I guess you've kind of talked about this, like with
just sort of the anxiety depression. But when you get
that like a cute, fiery response like gonna I'm gonna
light up Freddy Wendy here for a moment. Like she
was telling me the other day that she heard someone
scraping their fork on their plate, and like, I think
(12:53):
she took everything in her power not to blow up
the building. Like what like in your work, you see
that Obviously we're going to talk about on a different episode,
Like there's some misophonia going on there.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, yeah, but like.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Kind of like breaking it down in the simplest way,
like what's happening with us when that's going down?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Because I feel violent inside.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yes, when I hear somebody chewing, if I hear any
sort of like mouth noises, I feel violent. We know, Well,
that's also a sensory sensitivity that people have heightened levels
of sensory processing. So I talk about in my book
like no two brains are alike. We each have our
own brain fingerprint. And so misophonia is very common for
(13:39):
people who are gifted, and so they can hear things
at an elevated level and it could cause actual a
It can actually cause an anxiety response in their nervous system.
Because so for example, fluorescent lights can be another thing,
and so there are things that in our system, like
(14:00):
in our environment that can be causing a response that
comes across as anxiety or irritability, but at the core
of it, somebody is actually suffering.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
See I love hearing this because you said it means
you're gifted. Because I'm going to tell you right now,
glass plates anything, glass people put in glass plates, ceramic plates.
I don't do it. I swear to you. In my
house it's plastic. It's like kids plastic because the sound
of the clunk after you clean it, and the clunk
I can't stand it. I really can't. So now I
(14:33):
think you're straight up gifted.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Gifted. Absolutely, someone seizes I'm I'm just like I get
in my car.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Gifted.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Gifted.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, let's go for it.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well, doctorle is actually gifted.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well she's legitimately term you're legit.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I've graduated, you're creative.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Writers, I mean, brilliant women, all of you.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
We give gifts. Yeah, we're trying our best. Okay, So
we want to talk about different types of rage. Like
so mainly it's like how does it translate in the brain,
the nervous system. If there's like here's a few examples,
like loud, explosive rage, silent rage, continuous little outbursts, like
(15:19):
what's actually going on in our brains when we're in
a like a full like I'm fine spiral, but like
you're internally you're dying inside.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
So in like active rage, like when somebody is just
full blown having a moment and.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
The stroller in the parking lot.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah yeah, but that I.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Mean is even it's pretty timid.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I would say.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
We're talking like raging bulk Okay, Yeah, in a full
blown like rage attack, you know, like a panic attack
or is like you have a lot of brain systems
going on.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
So you have a hypothalamus which is like releasing cortisol.
You have your adrenalines are are going so that's really
seeing adrenaline from your adrenaline adrenaline glands. And then you
have a bunch of things going on in your migdala,
So your migdala is going into that like primary fight
and flight brain and then basically that higher order thinking,
(16:14):
the frontal cortex is suppressed and you're basically acting out
where That's why sometimes when people are in an episode
of rage, they can't even remember. Yeah, they like they
almost black out because it's sort of not even taken
into their memory system because they're acting from such a
(16:35):
primal state. And then so when you also have like
that little outbursts of like aggression that happens, you know,
those are like that's like a momentary inflammatory response, but undercurrent,
like that person is suffering. Right, So like there's you
could end up having like tension in your body, headaches,
(16:58):
you get that sense of overwhelmed. That's where even you
could get into elements of panic, Like when you're in
that level of suppression, right, that's where you could be
in that freeze mode and more subdued and sort of
like you sort of have that fragility, that ego at fragility,
and you don't you don't even go there with certain people.
(17:19):
You're like I just can't take this. I'm not going
to do this, and and you detach. But it's not
really in a way that serves you or the other
person to be able to find a place of agreement
on it.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, I like understanding because you just leave it. Yeah,
because you don't even know how to approach it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
And so suppression over time, I mean it's gonna come
out yea. And over time, you're just physiologically you're not
you're not going to be able to be kind of
honest and communicating with others because there's going to be
an under the undercurrent of it is going to be
that emotional anger, sadness, frustration, the feelings of not being met,
(18:06):
not being seen, not being heard, and so then you're
still kind of taking on you know. It's kind of
like I think about it with Richard Schwartz's work, like
Parts work that he talks about where the parts of
us that have been traumatized in that suppression piece is
the piece that he calls that we exile ourselves out.
(18:28):
And then there's the piece of us that are the
firefighters that kind of are those first responders to when
an emotional thing happens. And then there are our managers
who tell us like, it's all okay, It's all gonna
be okay. And so the real deal is that we
have to come back to that exiled part of ourselves
in that space of acceptance and that space of like
(18:50):
compassion and saying okay, like nurturing that part of us
that has been suppressed and hurt and and nurture like
a baby.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
That's like rage room love letter to me, right, like
you got it. You got to get down, you gotta
write that letter, you can get in touch with it,
and then you can have the convo.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah you know, yeah, and then you can have the
release at the rage room too.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It also sounds like it's getting down with some vessel
vandal k.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, you know we're gonna have you
on too, Bessel.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Just wait.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah, that'd be a matter of time.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
If the body keeps a score.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well, I think we've kind of already answered that next
question to you. Yeah, so I kind of want to
like shift into what I know you talk a lot about,
which is like moving rage out of our subtle physical
and mental bodies.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
And how do we start to do that is get
up close and personal with it and with our experiences,
you know, And it's through really mindfulness practices simply when
that rage arises, Like the simplest, easiest practice that has
been given to us from ancient stages is like three
deep breaths, like literally three D for us, we activate
(20:04):
the parasympathetic nervous system, reduce that sympathetic activation that happens
during rage through negative emotions, and it also resets us
and it kind of recalibrates us where we can settle
down and then begin to like be aware of what's
arising inside of us.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
What happens if someone does that and then they're like okay, now,
but I'm still like raging and I'm still going to scream?
Is it like, oh maybe I don't know what is?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
What would that look like for you?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
So the awareness would be like I'm screaming now in
this experience, I am screaming and hold it with like
awareness and compassion.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I actually love that. Yeah, yeah, we need you gotta
remember that, you know.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I mean the biggest the biggest thing is like knowing
when you're in that experience and understanding I think. And
then the second part is like bearing witness like this
is happening, I'm really hurt, I'm really frustrated this, you know,
things aren't okay, and acknowledging that how it hurts, and
then coming back to like compassionately connecting with yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, being okay that like that's where you're at. Yeah,
this is where I'm at, instead of trying.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
To resist it or judge it. Yeah, like this is
where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
We're not going to be here forever. Let's just be
here and then we're going to move on right into
the next stage, whatever that is.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
And I feel like I want to ask you, like,
how how do you think we're supposed to exist, you know,
in an attention deficit, hyper stimulated culture. Yeah, while everybody's
also maybe trying to be mindfully less reactive, Like how
does that? How do you do it? I mean I
think it's probably what you've You've already answered this, right
mindfulness and stuff like that, But like what's like your go.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
To for that?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Yeah, I mean really put down your phone? Yeah, take
a walk in nature.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Like the biggest thing is I tell people always to
identify a nurture list, So like, what are ten things
that you could like journal down right now that would
be supportive to your healing process whatever that is, Like
taking a baths, simple cup of tea, Like anything that
restores you is a really important element to get back
(22:15):
to your who.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You are telling my cat that I love him so
much for the eightieth thousand fucking Yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Brings you to absolutely cats are their freaking best.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I realize today.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I go, I said to Ben, I go, I now
get it. People look at the pope the way that
I look at my cat.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
God, bless God, bless Hala. Yep.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yet he's the best he is though I can tell it's.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Like, well, cats really have a lot. They kind of
have it figured out.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Oh my god, right, oh god, they're healers.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
But we got to ask you before we move on.
We're going to play a little game here in a bit,
like right before we get out. But what are like
the ways that we can shift rage into like of
radical self acceptance?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
So how do you shift out of love to rage?
Is really it's basically identifying first like what is causing
the rage, like I've already said, but underneath that is
coming back to what's inhibiting you to touch Touch that
(23:23):
rage with tenderness, So you touch it with tenderness, and
then you come into those love based emotions of compassion,
joy and really being able to connect with those emotions
and if those are really hard, which sometimes you're like,
how can I love this right now? This is so painful?
(23:44):
Is really just sitting with that and sitting with the
awareness of that and to recognize like that, you know,
it's kind of a beautiful mess that we live in,
Like each of us like has a microcosm of the
universe inside of us to be able to connect with,
but we feel that disconnection and so really it's coming
(24:05):
back to the connection of yourself. And I would say,
like from a very spiritual standpoint, like for who I am,
like hands down, you know, I ask for help, I
ask the Divine Mother, I ask anybody who can lend
a hand and say, hey, this is hard, help me here,
you know, I think sometimes you know, the three things
(24:28):
that we know that help us work through our fear
is really like the first thing is recognizing the things
that make us happy. The second thing is understanding what
the fear is and being expressed and shifting from that
fear slash rage state into love by action that can
be take that comes from courage, and that's really like,
(24:51):
courage is our response to rage and fear because it's
responding with compassion and wisdom. And then the third thing
is asking for help.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, that's probably the hardest thing.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
You know, we can't do it alone.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I love that you said, how can I love this
thing that's so painful?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
That's like such a great thing I think for us
to think about that's so cool because you can kind
of start to maybe reframe how you look at things
that are really hard.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, and it's our lessons, right, it's these lessons Like
for me, like the hardest thing was the irony of
living with being an neuroscientist and my mom having a
NERD degenerative disorder and not fixing it, and then also
being aware that like this is my lesson, this is
my lesson, it's beyond science.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, and kind of bowing down to that, you know,
And it's I think a big thing too, is like
you know, when we surrender and let go, that's like
where we really grow.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
So we want to play a little fun little game
with you where you take us out where you're just
gonna simply answer like yes or no with a quick explanation.
Why doesn't have to.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Be too long?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
You feel like a sentence yes?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Perfect?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, perfect?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Right?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Okay, Okay, so we're trying to think a word count.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I knew it.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I knew it. Yeah. She like in your book talked
about when you came across math you were like, oh
my god, I get all of this.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
This is the language. I understand.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I love it. Okay. So the first one is we
only use ten percent of our brain.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Not true, And we use all of our brain most
of the time.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I love that so great.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, only maybe ten percent is lit up during different activities.
But yeah, we use a lot of different networks. Just
just to simply problem to solve, we use twenty eight
different brain regions.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Hearing that, Okay, meditation can solve everything.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Meditation is a practice, in a in a tool that
can help regulate our nervous system and connect us to
other people.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Okay, do you feel like it could solve a lot?
Speaker 4 (27:02):
It could solve a lot, but and and I think
there's more. There's no cure, there's no Yeah, you know,
I'm not I'm not a snake oil salesman, you know.
I mean, it could help with a lot, But I
think there are also a lot of other tools like therapy.
There's medication, there are certain things wimming, you know, taking vacations, laughing.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, oh heck yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Art Art is good.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Doing art is amazing. Art is a meditation.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Like heck, Cary, I'm down with you with that. Okay.
Rage is toxic and should be avoided at all costs.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
No, rage is a normal human experience and you just
have to learn how to manage it, and you know,
communicate with courage and wisdom.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And get to that place where you're like, I love
it right now, It's okay, take deep breasts, meditate, and
then move on and move on.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Speaking of moving on, I know how you're gonna to
this one. Neurodivergent just means quirky.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Absolutely not. You have different brain wiring that's happening in
communication and production styles.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
You can rewire your brain in twenty one days.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Never, No, you could rewire different neural patterns. On average
takes sixty six days, but it could take up to
two hundred and sixty eight days depending on the task
and how difficult it is.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Math she did it.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
And also, our frontal lobe is developing into our mid thirties.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I learned that from your book as well.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
And it still is developing five but it's still developing now. Okay, mindfulness, mindfulness.
Mindfulness is a way that you can rewire your frontal
lobe too.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Love it, Okay, tap into that all right.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Women are just more emotional than men. No, yeah, simple,
brains are very similar. The brains are very similar. We
think that they're way different, but.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
The actual structures are very very similar. The differences really
rely on the way we're socially conditioned.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That's right, nature versus nurture. Baby, Okay, crystals can change
your brain waves.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
What kind of crystals we're at that.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
If you're anxious, you're doing mindfulness wrong.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
No, anxiousness is a part of experiencing the whole spectrum
of mindfulness.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Or we got two more. Once your brain is wired
in a certain way, it stuck like that, never love it.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
And the last one, Crying is weakness.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Crying is a beauty. Biology of tears are just They
give you the same endorphins as when you laugh. So
crying is healthy for you, Well, then we're very healthy.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
It's sobbing.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Well, thank you so much, doctor Nicole, and your full
name is doctor Nicole Tatsralt. You said it, well, I
studied a little bit of French.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yes, this really has been amazing and inspiring and there's
so much more that we could talk to you about.
But people can find you on Instagram at Awesome neuro.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And they can read Insight to the Bright Mind, that
is your book before we move on, show them for me,
can you zoom in?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Oh wait, we're not that kind of show, and we're not.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
And you can also find out about all the awesome
work she does with meditation and send him for courses
at her website, which is www. Is that timoy W's
www dot Nicole tarlt dot com.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Easy. And I just want to say, you guys, you
should really read her book. There's a great story that
you share about when you were younger and you were
in class and you solved an equation on the board
that no one else could solve. And you know what
this lady did, this teacher she brought her up there
chapter shirt in because they were what you were thirteen fourteen?
(30:59):
Is that right? Chutter shirt? And said turned her to
the front of the class and said, look how thin
she looks after she just she just beautiful minded the
equation on the fucking board. I was raging out reading
it for you while she's talking to a future neuroscientist.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I'm shook. I'm shook. We need what was the teacher's name?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
And it was at a Catholic school too.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I figured when you said the wait shirt and I
was like, that sounds like a uniform.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Oh, doctor Nicole, I mean look at you go now,
like you're really just that teacher. She's probably not still
alive and you're winning.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I just reallyincarnated.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
She reincardinated is a Buddhist monk.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Then could maybe she'll be my next teacher.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
She was dead in my mind because I don't like
what she did. I think it's wacky, do freaking wild.
We love you for having here, Thank you for joining me.
Thank you so much. See you AmAm.
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All right, guys, here is our first phone call.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
I've been told since I was younger, like how I'm
supposed to dress? How I shouldn't wear certain things because
men keep looking, or how I should cover up, or
how I should wear something else, And it's just like,
why is that my problem? Like you can't control where
you're looking. That is definitely a you issue. I'm gonna
wear whatever I want to wear because it's my body
and I can express myself however I want to.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I'm with her, Yeah, I mean, I completely agree.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
It's just a sad part of the world that we
live in, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
But as two women, we support you.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
You absolutely shouldn't have to be thinking about you what
you wear.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Men don't think about it at all.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Men don't walk out of the house ever and are
worried like, oh my god, a woman is gonna come
over and think that because I'm wearing this tank top
that she can corner me in a room and force
me to have sex with her. Like it's just like,
that's just like a non thing.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I'm with you. I've been watching Hunt for Love on HBO,
and I will tell you one of the guys walked
out in a freaking speed out and everyone's like, oh God,
look at Todd or whatever his name was, and and
like he's got his jump I mean it's just so
like right there, but it's like, look it's hod ha
ha ha exactly, it's funny. It's not a big deal.
(34:10):
And you know what, I think us as women, you
know that, like if your boobs are out or your
buck's out, you're like you're gonna get some looks. We
just hope that like the looks are like just don't
stare at it or be freaking awkward about it, like
I you know, for me, like i would get a
girl walking down the street where I'm like, dang, that
girl looks good, but I'm not gonna be like mo, like,
(34:32):
just don't be a dick about it, be be polite
and respectful and move on.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
This is our other call.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Hey, ladies, this is David, first time caller.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I need to know what to do with my rage
when I'm stuck behind a way mo driver, list.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Car and get around it.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And then when you finally do get around it, there's
no one to flip off. What do I do? Please
give me some advice. Oh god, it's so true though,
like it totally takes away the fun of road rage.
Weimo does totally because it's.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I mean, you know what I'll tell him is like
what I do, Dave is like what I think pisces
off the driver more and I know it's not gonna
work on weimo. Is like when you don't make eye contact,
you don't flick them off because you just think you're
like unbothered.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
So you mean like just treat the weimo like they're
a human.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, because you like you've said that that you're like, oh,
I just.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Won't give eye contact if someone's like skip done something
to scorn me. But like it doesn't matter if you
give eye contact totally, it's a robot.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Oh my god, I have a solution. You can honk
at him like hardcore like twenty four to seven a
girl hop because it's not a human.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Now. I don't know what the word I think when
Dave's saying though, is that like he doesn't get the
satisfaction of getting like some sort of reaction from doing that, Like.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
There's been satisfaction from honk in the whole.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Well it kind of goes it's kind of like the
rage ground kind of thing, like do you get satisfied
just from like hitting out things?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
So he might want like to hurt the feelings of
the person behind the call Yeah, he's.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Got to flip the bird. You know what, I would
try to just like flip the bird at the way
most feel. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Now, sometimes it is it's just about writing the letter,
it's not actually reading it aloud. We got to get
into cunt of the week.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
This week's cunt of the week are two writers, comedians, showrunners, directors.
Well one's more of a director who I know has
definitely shaped a lot of my life in terms of
content that's had a lasting effect on me.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Wendy, how am I talking about? Who are cunts of
the week?
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Our cunts of the week this week are the Matt
Stone and Trey Parker.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
All Right, the geniuses behind South Park.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
And and and book Mormon Right and Salute Yeah, Book
of Sutally cas and a nine hundred million dollar paramount
deal for what I've got.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Fork for South Park, Right, they have for making such
an irreverent and an unconditionally irreverent show for like they
get all the freedom in the world, and I fucking
love it. Like they don't have to adhere to a schedule,
Like they get to make episodes when they want to
make episodes of talk about fuck you money yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Fuck you schedules. It's like the schedules like totally, no,
we're not doing it this week.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
But here's the thing right now, why they're constantly week
They are comedians that are actually they have comedic integrity.
We are living in a time where you see so
many comedians suck in the dick of the authority, afraid
that they're going to lose favor, they're going to lose power,
(37:57):
and there's no constitution of like, hey, comedy is about
standing up to power, shining a light and finding finding
what is funny, ridiculous, obscene about any situation. And that's
who they've been all along and they have never wavered
from that. When they went to the Academy Awards, they
wore dresses and they took acid.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
I love that they like, I'm very reluctant.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
To ever use the phrase they really do not give
a fuck.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
And they have become insanely.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Rich off of that Rock and Rollers.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But they like for this season of South Park, they're
actually showing Trump with his face because the last time
Trump was in office, Yeah, like we're not going to
show his face. Oh.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
I think it was also kind of a like.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
No, we're not going to give him yea a microphone,
but now things are so insane.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
They're like, nope, that's it.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
We're fucking changing it up. And then they give him
a little tiny micro penis and they it's just to.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Get to see through the pants. Or is he naked?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Oh no, no he's naked. Oh no, it's always a
micro opena. It's just it's it's a beautiful thing. I
love there, and uh, six Days to Air is a
great documentary that shows how grueling the process to make
a single episode of South Park is. It's absolutely insane.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
So we're gonna we gotta close this out. You guys
got to make sure that you follow us at the rage.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Pod on it's of our socials.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, email us at the rage at theagepod dot com.
Tell us where you're pissed about, Wendy.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
What's our number?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Two one three two nine three five nine nine five great?
Speaker 1 (39:31):
And you can watch full episodes on YouTube so you
see our faces if you want to know what we
look like. Oh yeah, and you can actually get merch
on our website, the ragepod dot com. Please go get it.
We have really cool mugs and cool pillows and like
a bunch of stuff, candles and stuff. Somebody's phone is
ringing and I'm trying to get out my rage.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Shut the fuck up, it's actually my computer.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Okay, all right, let's keep breathing. One two three, Rage
screaming to your pillow.
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