October 10, 2019 • 35 mins
Ron talks shop with an up and coming model.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Get nasty and touch your body, get nasty and tell
your friend hands get nasty, but don't tell you mama.
Rom Burgundy is one Batman Romberguny podcast. Oh yes, Oh
(00:32):
I wake up to that song every morning and it
really gives me a jolt. Hello. This is Ron Burgundy
and welcome once again to the Ron Burgundy Podcast. Carolina.
How are you doing today? I'm good? Thanks for asking?
Are you're just good or great? I'm good? Why not great?
Because I'm great? Guess what I did yesterday? I don't
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know what did you do? I got my back waxed. Now,
what would you say it to bookled? Waxing would cost
I mean you should know, right, I don't being a
lady at all. Okay, well, I guess if you go
to a decent spot, it will cost you anywhere. I'm
guessing bingo. I got my waxing done for four dollars,
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my entire back for four measly bucks. Okay, Oh you
know what that makes sense? Um? Because you're bleeding a
little bit through the back of your shirt. That means
it was a good waxing. They got the entire hair follicle.
If you say I know so, run is how long
has it been bleeding? It's been bleeding all night long. Okay,
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you shouldn't go cheap on waxing. I had to throw
my sheets out my bed. Oh my god. Yeah, but listen,
don't lecture me on my body. It's my body, I know.
But if you can afford a healthier and safe waxing
salon for your information, this wasn't a salon. It was
an auto collision repair shop slash bird breeder. So they're
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now where was I? All right? One of the great
things about this podcast, which sets it apart from three
or four other podcasts out there, On this show, it's
a chance for two American icons to chat one on
one with each other, candidly American. No hold on, I'm
not done. To call my next guest in American Icon
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would actually be an understatement. She began her show business
career when she was only eleven months old as a
model for Ivory Soap. Can you imagine that eleven months old?
It's incredible. This blatant disregard for child labor laws catapulted
her and to start him. At twelve, she starred in
the breakout film Pretty Baby, directed by Lewis Malley, it's
(02:47):
actually Louis mal You're mispronouncing it, are you sure? Oh?
Because look at this that reads If you look there,
that reads Louis Malley. To me, how would you pronounce this?
I'm actually I'm pretty sure it's Gluie maw He's an
acclaimed French filmmaker. Actually is he? Well, did he direct
any of the Cannonball Run movies? No, but I can
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fact check that. See if Lewis malle directed any Cannonball
Run movies? Can you do that? Caroline? Okay, I'm in
the middle of my guest introduction. It's supposed to be
a big build up to a discussion between two American icons,
and you've you've really disrupted the flow. So can I
finish this? Go ahead? Okay. She was the youngest fashion
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model to ever appear on the cover of Voge, a
regular at famed New York discotheque Studio fifty four, and then,
for some crazy reason, she decided to leave all that
fun and excitement of modeling and starring in movies to
attend Princeton University. Wow, is this a typo? Is this really? Okay?
This is not a move I would have made. No way. Well,
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we'll have to talk about that anyway. She's an absolute legend,
you know her from everything from the Blue Lagoon to
Suddenly Susan. It is my extreme emnor to Welcome to
the Ron Burgundy Podcast, the iconic Brookshields. But first let's
take a commercial break and we are back Ron Burgundy Podcast.
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As I mentioned before, what an exciting episode we are
with an icon Brookshields. Brooke, how are you today? Thanks
for joining us. Oh, I'm fine. Thank you so much
for inviting me. Brooke. I'm sorry if you hold on
for a second, I need to do a live commercial read. Um.
I know you you just got on the phone, but
I just have to kind of take care of business here.
(04:43):
Squatty potty. It's that little stool you put in your
bathroom to make sure you're using the toilet correctly when
you're doing a number two. Okay, you know, Caroline, I
don't want to have to read this ad right now,
not with brook Shields online. Can we can we just
do this later? Absolutely could have read it. Leader. That
was the decision you just made on your own. What's
done is done? Uh, Brookshields. Let me just ask you
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this about your name, Brooke. Is it short for Brookline, Massachusetts.
It's actually not, but um my, mom, uh. She liked
a photograph and the photographer was named Christian Brooks, I think,
and so she liked the name brook and she So
you're not let's put this to rest. You're not from Brookline, Massachusetts.
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I'm not. I'm from where were you born? Born and
raised in Manhattan? Oh? Okay, well, then who am I thinking?
Was born in Brookline, Massachusetts. That's an American icon. Oh,
I you know who I'm thinking of. It's it's Michael Dukakus.
Never mind. Oh you know I went to school with
Andrea his daughter. Oh my gosh, were you so nervous
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around Andrew all the time because her father was Michael
Dukakis an American icon? You know what? She's really really
bright and so her I'm sure. I'm sure. I As
a point, I try to not hang out with people
who are smarter than me because I get sweaty palms
and it can be intimidating. It's formidable, it's more formidable.
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It's a good word. If you use that word with
smart people, I think, well, thank you, see Carolina, I
am Brooke thinks I'm smart. Ron wrote formidable down the
pad and it's been waiting to use it all day.
Good it's the word a day. Maybe you should do
a word every day. I wrote formidable, and then right
next the word I'm going to use tomorrow is coxyx,
which is the medical term for your tailbone. That would
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be more appropriate for the potty day. That's true, Brooke.
You've had such an impressive career and you truly are
an American. I kond of and it feels like it's
impossible that we'll have time to cover everything. So forgive
me if I ask you about some of the things
you've talked about a zillion times before. Okay, I think
people will kill me if I am interviewing Brookshields and
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I didn't ask you about the big stuff. So let's
get right into it, all right. Tell me about your
two thousand thirteen guest appearance on the ABC sitcom Super
Fun Night. Uh, well, I'm sure that's the first thing
people come up to you and they say, Super Fun Night.
I can't go through a week without being It's become
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a cult, Broke. I want to talk about modeling. Um.
I think there's a huge misconception that you know modeling
is easy but I know from experience it's actually very
hard work. And you started so young. Do you remember
your first big modeling gig where you really felt like, WHOA,
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I am a model? Um? I remember getting a cover
try Yes seventeen magazine and that I was so excited
about it and I didn't get it and it was crushing.
It was crushing to me. And within the next year
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or so, I then finally got the cover and I
remember thinking, I'm a I'm the real deal. I've been
doing catalogs. It was my first sort of major you
were part of the club, you were you would invited
to the party. I'll tell you the first time I
felt like a model of And of course I've been.
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I've been doing some male modeling over the years, but
the first big one for me had to be in
nineteen and I did a print campaign for Virginia Slims
the cigarettes. Yes, and I'm sure you're wondering, excuse me,
Ron Burgundy. It was in an advertisement for Ladies cigarettes. Yes,
I was, but you were ahead of your time and
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was ahead of my time. I love the product too.
They were sexy, definitely as a sexy approach, so it
seems very appropriate you know what, I really appreciate that
because I used to walk around and smoke, you know,
the small, thin, little Virginia slims, and people would give
me a lot of flak. But I don't necessarily need
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or needed back then a full cigarette. And clearly comfortable
in your masculinity. Well that's that's exactly right, and thank
you for for recognizing that. And I also, I mean,
I felt a responsibility to do it as a journalist.
So I ask you, Brooke, are you comfortable with your femininity? Femininity?
How do you say it? You got femininity? I have
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become much more so since since having children. Actually, prior
to kids, I think just anything. Femininity was also synonymous
with um beauty to me, and for a long time
I sort of didn't want to pay attention to the physical,
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to anything external, anything sort of and part of being
feminine was an external sort of expression of all that.
And it wasn't until I mean really until I got
pregnant and I started feeling that sense of female I
don't know, power, and then the femininity sort of grew
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out of that because I used to think, oh, I
had to be the strong, tough one, so I was
always you know, the femininity was always also synonymous with
frail and petite and dainty and waif like. And I've
never been those things, wearing white lace gloves and carrying
a parasol out in the summertime. Absolutely, And so that
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was it took me a while to sort of appreciate
how badass femininity can be. You're not going to get
an argument from me. I mean, you know, some say
that I exude toxic amounts of masculinity, but I also
have a feminine side, and I think every man does
and they shouldn't be afraid to embrace it. Do you agree?
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I totally agree. In fact, I think it just highlights
the masculinity in the right way. I think when they
work in conjunction with each other, I think that's the sexiest. Wow.
I've started wearing lipstick once a week just to try
it out. You carry yourself then, totally totally do you
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stand a little taller? Um doing a seat on the
city bus? Sorry? Go ahead, it chose a different side
to people. Sorry interrupted you? Um, no, no, I try
not to do that again, please, I won't. Okay, I'm
doing a show called a pilot. We're doing a pilot
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called glamorous, and it's all about the makeup world, and
it's all about what we were talking about, this sort
of masculine feminine and this celebration and kind of embracing it,
and it's so refreshing. So this is full circle. This
is full circle here. Yep, we have to we have
to talk about your classic Calvin Klein Jenes commercials. I mean,
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they are, let's face it, they are part of American
pop cultural history. And I mean, how how many years
later and we're still talking about them specifically because I'm
bringing them up. And but you said, and I quote
unless you want to say it. Um, you said, you
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want to know what comes between me and my Calvin's.
And then you took a pause and said nothing. And
my question is what did you mean by that? Well,
first of all, you are one of the first people
to properly quote it. What do people usually says? They
have always said, nothing comes between me and my Calvin's. Now,
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I'm sure I was probably really naive at that age anyway,
But the idea of the whole series of commercials was
that each sentence, each saying, had a double meaning to it.
So there was this hoop lab about it. And they
pulled the commercial because they said it meant I wasn't
wearing any underwear or they started playing with the spelling
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get out of the gutter. Yeah, so it was. I
thought it was pathetic. And yet the controversy surrounding it
and the novelty of their approach and advertising is why
when the new UM creative director, Raf Simmons, who's now left,
but when he came on, he brought back the image
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that was used in the in those ads because it
became like this pop pop icon e Like you said,
the iconography of it was brought sort of into the
hip hop world. Yeah, I have a I have a
T shirt with your image on it. It's kind of cool.
I mean I had to buy mine. I had to buy.
I had to It wasn't cheap. I was like, can't
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you guys give you went? Wow, you had to buy
your own T shirt of yourself? Mm hmm. How much
was it one twenty or something like that? Definitely that's
a rip, right, you know that nothing's free. Well, you
just can't ever wear it or wash it. I know.
I'm afraid. What did anyone ever try to steal your
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Calvin Klein jeans? No? Um, but I've just found the
original pears. I had three of them. My mom kept everything,
and I recently was going through a warehouse of stuff, literally,
and she had this whole Calvin. I've kept every single
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mustache comb I've ever owned, just in case or some
of them really pretty like that might be really pretty.
Some of them are bejeweled, some of them are Sadly,
I have to admit some. A lot of them are
made of ivory. I've contributed to the ivory ivory trade.
That's not Maybe it wasn't endangered. Then maybe it wasn't.
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Let's just say that. And let's just say I didn't
go hunt elephants too so that I could get the
tusks to make my own mustache comb. No, let's say
that didn't happen, because it didn't say it didn't. And
if I was in a court of law, let's get
off this topic. Um. You know one time I had
a pair of jeans stolen from me and they weren't Calvin's.
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They were Lee Jeans, also a good brand. Levi's lead
the Wrangler. Those are the originals. Yeah, I had an
incident with a rottweiler tried to steal jeans from me.
Were they on you? They were on my person? Yes?
Where was this? This was at the Pasadenas Rose Bowl
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swap meat in the Rottweiler section. Ah did he he?
Or she? Doesn't matter? Yeah, I don't know. It was
a he. There was a big old set of balls
on that one. He was super charged with testosterone sensing
masculine yep. And we had a show down. I you
know what, I started the fight. This is so much
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about the toxic masculine anywhere. Just so I went to
the rott Wilder section of the Rose Bowl swap meat,
and I just said, who wants a piece of me?
I just was feeling a bit randy that day. Rott
Wilder is an explosive, vicious animal. Beautiful, Yes, And you know,
while the rottwater was pinning me down and ripping my
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lee jeans to shreds, I remember thinking I stopped screaming
and remember thinking this is a gorgeous animal, the power
of the beauty, the majesty, and all went slow. Yeah,
it all went slow. It's that fight or flight and
exactly everything slowed down. Brook. Let me ask you this,
Let me let me I'm gonna radically change subjects here
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or maybe not so because you probably wore your your
Calvin clients to this place. Do you have any great
memories of Studio fifty four. I have the best memories
from Studio fifty Um. I first went there with Steve
Ruebel and Calvin Klein. Actually that guy didn't like me. Yeah,
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you never let me in. No, was he manning the door? Yeah,
he was manning the door. He said, Ron Burgundy, I
don't like you. I will never let you in my nightclub.
Oh he's probably just jealous. Obviously that never happened to you. No,
And I never got subjected to the picking process. And
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I also always went really early. My mom would let
me go, but we would have to I'd have to
go home because I had school the next It wasn't
like an early bird special. Yeah, but I really all
I wanted to do was dance. Would you get there? What? PM? No,
they didn't open the doors until later, so it was
like eight. Like if there was an event, I could
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get there right on time and then dance a few hours.
I would just go directly to the dance floor and
and then I'd gone home. I mean I And the
interesting thing was I was never offered any drugs. I was.
It was almost as if they were all on protection
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duty or something from me, Like I was like the mascot.
I was sort of offs for you. They were. I
mean it was it was the late seventies, early eighties,
and it was crazy, but I felt I was protected.
And you know, it's interesting. There's a room that they
call the it's on the fourth floor, and yeah, I
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think it was. It was some druggy room or some
layer of some kind. And I never obviously never went
past the dance floor. And then when I did Cabaret
on Broadway, we did it at Studio fifty four, and
my dressing room was that actual room on the floor
in that room, and it was haunted. Haunted, No, no,
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And it wasn't haunted, but it was. It actually had
a good energy to it. You hung out, run, you
had a club in New York though that you frequented. Well,
I would go to the you know, like I said,
I couldn't get into Studio fifty four, so I went
to a place called Studio fifty two and it was
a couple of blocks down, and you know, it wasn't
the same crowd. I mean, I hung out with like
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Ed Cotch and a couple of the couple of guys
from shan on a. You know it was all right, Um,
you didn't have to get there early because it was
never full. He liked dancing. Ed Ed could really cut
a rug. He loved it. But I gotta be honest,
My pride was hurt that I never got in. And
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this happened to me right in front of Grace Jones
and she laughed at me. But and I've never told
this story. But I got back at the studio fifty
four people. I called some buddies in the I R S.
And I just made up a bunch of wild stories
and I told them, you know what, go They've got
cash hidden in the ceiling and a safe, you know,
filled with like three hundred ludes in it. And I just,
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you know, I made up a bunch of crazy lives
and a reason for the demise. Well, and then it
turned out to actually be true. So how did you
even know? I don't know. I don't It was just
a wild swing and I happened to be I happen
to be so right, And I don't know. I've mixed
emotions about that. No, I probably shouldn't have told that story. Well, no,
(20:38):
I won't. I mean, it's what's done. It's done. But
it also you know, you sort of go like, oh
my god, that was an institution and you brought it down.
I brought it down. I did, ye, which you know
it was the right thing. I mean, were you know
it was going to run its course eventually, but I
brought it down prematurely. Pery could had another thirty years.
But maybe that was good. Maybe it's like it's like,
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you know, when these people die really early, they get
to thank you because I've had some sleepless nights over
my behavior. But now you're you're easing my conscience. Yeah.
I never am not good with regret. Yeah, I don't
have time for regret. I'm just like Mary J. Blige,
No drama, right y, that's what you always say. So
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you're at the height of your celebrity, You're on magazine covers,
you're starring in movies, and and then you went to college.
Why because I had always wanted to go and it
was a good It was a good school. To Princeton.
That's like a really hard school. It's a very hard
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So you do all that work, you're already rich, and famous,
which you know, which I think we all know fulfills
absolutely everything in a person's life. What what was missing
for Brookshields that you would make such a crazy decision
to attend college with more boring people like I just
can't imagine it. Um, I think I had the the
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vision and the sort of foresight to know. Now, maybe
because I had been working for so many decades by
that point, there's a sense of it wasn't something I
was striving for, something I had done all my life,
so it was a lot as much I just assumed
I would always continue it, but I also knew the
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way the industry breaks you down, the way it tries
to attack you for everything. And now, I mean, I
don't even think I could handle it if now with
social media. But the idea of attaining something that could
not be taken away from you and was arguably threatening
to people was really exciting to me. And four years
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of just being in one environment and this beautiful setting,
I mean, I had it. There was a dream quality
to it for me. You know, I wanted I wanted
to go to a old IVY League college, the IVY
on the walls and you know, football games and so
there was definitely in the heart of Texas, right Ivy,
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mostly in the southwest, is that correct? Actually Swiss? Yeah,
this was in Princess in Baltimore, Jersey, New Jersey. Yeah.
I noticed though my first UM press conference after I
had been at school for a semester. They didn't like
me having more articulate answers. Oh, very threatened. They were threatened.
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They sort of wanted little Brook again, and they wanted
to catch me in things. And it was it was
fun to sort of play around with them in a way,
A very empowering time for you, Sanctuary, it was, and
it was fun. Do you have I want to say?
And this is a serious question when someone's big, Well,
(24:03):
my questions have been serious, I know, but I'm yeah,
of course, I just um no. But just when you
phrase it like that, it makes like I stayed up
all night to do this research. Anyway, go ahead, Carolina, Okay.
Do you ever want to say to someone when they're
being they're undermining you, or just do you ever want
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to just say you, I went to Princeton. Um, you
didn't go to school, But I would say that if
she went to a real hole. Sarah Lawrence, So, Sarah
Lawrence is not. Oh okay, well I'm not hearing good
things lately. No, it's a very very good school. Sorry,
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go ahead, broke, go ahead. Um No. You know what's
even better is just thinking that and then not reducing
yourself to their level. You're so much more emotionally mature,
and I am, because I would just I would hammer
people with that as soon as I walked into the door. Overtly.
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I won't ever throw it in someone's face because I
think by doing that you've weakened your position, because you've
gotten petty. But you could always wear a jacket and
then if they're being rude, un zip it and you
have a Princeton shirt under yes, right, or like scratch
your scratch society of your face, but have your class
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ring showing a lot, have the fight song queued up
on your cellular device ready to play at any time,
and say, oh, sorry, that's just my school, that's just
the theme song. Wow, I wish I had gone to college.
You didn't. You didn't go to well, you've taken some
online course that took some online Phoenix University. Yes, before
(25:50):
they were located in Phoenix. Oh okay, So can we
talk about the Brookshields Timeless collection for a moment you're
doing that with with QVC and and yes, I'm just saying,
you know, maybe you could introduce me to some of
the folks at QVC because I'd like to launch my
own fashion line, but they're not returning my calls. Ron
(26:13):
has been doing some sketches on scrap paper, kind of
just pants and pants. It's it's it's actually a line
of formal wear for infants. Um a lot of tuxes
and ball gowns. Oh, there's some very room entering sketches.
I mean it makes the met Ball look like an
episode of he Haw, you know, so wow. You know
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what's good about that is that, especially if the kids
can't walk, you don't have to worry about shoes, and
that sometimes can make or break an entire outfit. Thank you, Broke,
thank you. I can introduce you to some of the
creative team. They are a give me names right now?
Can you give me names and phone numbers right now?
(26:58):
They're in Philly. I'll um, I'll put you in touch
with the right people. I think that it's a really
amazing team of people. So why won't they get back
to me. You've just been mailing them in with I mean,
maybe we should just start getting on the internet more.
You know what, I'm try to sell a deep fryar
or a panini oven or something like that, because maybe
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the fashion game is not is not in me. It's
only baby clothes or baby clothes or bust. You did
say ballgowns, but baby ballgowns, baby ballgowns, baby ballgowns. Maybe petwear?
What about pet wear? Pet wear? Okay, wait, wait, wait,
hold on here, let me write this down. Pet war.
(27:41):
I could see that ron Burgundy pet wear. It has
a nice If you can get me in with the
QBC folks, that would just and I won't expect anything
other than just a conversation, so Brook, that would be
hugely helpful. Absolutely, And I think if you started with pets,
there's such a uh, it doesn't matter masculine, feminine, you know,
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it's they're such a big, big audience. Well, of course,
my best friend is my dog Baxter, so I know
everything about Yes, Brooke, let me. You've been such a
mental health advocate over the years, and I know at
times it's it's been very difficult, both personally and publicly,
and I just want to take a moment to commend
you for your bravery with that. But I'd also like
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to ask you if you have a number of a therapist. Um,
it's not for me, it's for Carolina. Uh, well that's
a very personal Well I'm trying to help you, Carolina,
I really think you should see someone. It's it's just
sometimes it's like you're trying to undermine me or sabotage
the work I'm doing on the show. And I think
I think you should talk to a professional, the professional
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recommended by Brookshields. Run. How am I trying to sabotage you?
That seems so weird and paranoid. Maybe you should see
a therapist And that's ridiculous, that's ridiculous. Or maybe or
what about like a marriage counselor but for people that
have to work so closely to each other, you know,
maybe you both some stuff off your chest about the
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other person, but in a safe and I'll stay for
the first five minutes check it out, and then I'll
come back for the last five I see what you
can come in. I mean I can mediate, but Brooke,
you would mediate a counseling session between us, that would
be I would absolutely I did, but I told you
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I had a Well it's a minor in psych But
you know what, why don't when we're in Philly together. Well,
they have these quiet rooms. Perfect, have these quiet rooms
at QBC because you usually have to sometimes stay there
all night because it runs QBC runs seven. Um, but
they have these quiet rooms, almost like nap rooms in
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a hospital or something, and we could probably use one
of those rooms. Perfect. I think that would work great.
But once again, just as long as we know the
expectation level of me coming in for the first five minutes.
If I like it, I'll stay. Maybe we'll just both
commit to staying. Well, if I get on QVC, I'll
(30:10):
totally commit. Yeah, well you've you've truly done it all. Brooke, Um,
I mean Brookshields, much like Ron Burgundy is a household name.
You've met every celebrity there is to meet. Is there
anyone you you would still like to meet? Like, let
me guess, would you like to meet the guys from
that band who sing the song take Me to Church?
(30:31):
I would love that I play that all the time.
Take me to church. I'll worship you like a dog
at the shine of your lives. You know that those guys. Yes,
I'd love to meet that guy. I get kitty when
I meet famous people. Oh I My life is dedicated
in the pursuit of meeting famous people. Ron actually recently
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has been just going to l a X Airport and
just hanging down. I followed the MZ guys and just
stay on their shoulders. So smart, and I'm just like,
who do we got coming in today? Yeah? I like
meeting famous people. I mean, I think it's just I
still get star struck. I mean I was like that
since I was a little kid. The most star struck
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I ever got was when I met Nick Nulty. That
was your most I was weak in the knees and
I just I didn't know what to say. I couldn't
even say anything. I just gave him a bear hug,
give him a bear hug, and and I just I'm
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so proud of you. It's so unsettling. Are you mistaken
for anybody ever? Uh? There have been a couple periods
of time where I haven't had a mustache, very rare,
and I've been mistaken for Rachel Maddow. Umh. So other
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than that, Nope, that's good old RB in the house.
You're so iconically you know, recognizable then, and that's what
we share, that's our common bond. The reference is often
like they'll say, well, you know Brookshields, ron Burgner, they're
both like one word kind of in the same sentence. Yes,
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it's nice to not be alone. Actually, I mean it's
for a while. That was really isolating to me growing up.
But finding someone that's akin to an understanding what it's
like it is comforting. Brookshields. We cannot thank you enough
for visiting us today on the podcast. It has been
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an absolute treat. Thank you for spending the time with us.
Thank you for all your insight and views on life
and your career, and it's been truly fascinating. Thank you
very much. Well, I will get those numbers to you
as soon as I that would be great. And and
for our listeners if you haven't seen it, check out
the episode of Super Fun Night featuring brook Shields. She's
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done so much in her career, but she was a
guest star on that show and she was she was terrific.
And yes, if you could get me the the therapist
referral for Carolina, that would be great. I'll get a couple.
Thank you, Brooke. Thank you. We really appreciate it, and
we'll be right back with more on the Ron Burgundy
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Podcast right after this. Welcome back to the Ron Burgundy Podcast.
This is Ron Burgundy along with Carolina. Here are my
final thoughts. Today. We talked to Canada's Brookshields class act
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through and through and the one thing that was remarkable
to me is her humility and grace, something I wish
I had more of. If we could bottle that class
and grace and dignity and give nine to our world
leaders and the other three percent to Carolina, I guarantee
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we would solve the world's problems. So of the Donald
Trump's and the Kim Jungens and the Alexander Putin's out there,
if you happen to be listening, try to handle yourself
like Brookshields, and you might just might save the world.
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This is Ron Burgundy. Until next time, don't use public restrooms.
The Ron Burgundy Podcast is a production of I Heart
Radio and Funnier Down. I'm Ron Burgundy, the host, writer
and executive producer. Carolina Barlow is my co host, writer
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and producer. Our producers are Jack O'Brien, Nixed of Miles
Gray and Whitney Outday. Our executive producer is Mike fare
Our consulting producer is Andrew Steele. Our coordinating producer is
Colin McDow. Our associate producers are Anna Hosnian and Sophie Lichtroman.
Our writer is Jake Fogers. Our production coordinator is Hannah Jacobson.
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This episode was engineered, mixed, and edited by Nick Stop
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Rom Burgundy is one Batman Romberguny podcast. Oh yes, Oh
(00:32):
I wake up to that song every morning and it
really gives me a jolt. Hello. This is Ron Burgundy
and welcome once again to the Ron Burgundy Podcast. Carolina.
How are you doing today? I'm good? Thanks for asking?
Are you're just good or great? I'm good? Why not great?
Because I'm great? Guess what I did yesterday? I don't
(00:54):
know what did you do? I got my back waxed. Now,
what would you say it to bookled? Waxing would cost
I mean you should know, right, I don't being a
lady at all. Okay, well, I guess if you go
to a decent spot, it will cost you anywhere. I'm
guessing bingo. I got my waxing done for four dollars,
(01:19):
my entire back for four measly bucks. Okay, Oh you
know what that makes sense? Um? Because you're bleeding a
little bit through the back of your shirt. That means
it was a good waxing. They got the entire hair follicle.
If you say I know so, run is how long
has it been bleeding? It's been bleeding all night long. Okay,
(01:39):
you shouldn't go cheap on waxing. I had to throw
my sheets out my bed. Oh my god. Yeah, but listen,
don't lecture me on my body. It's my body, I know.
But if you can afford a healthier and safe waxing
salon for your information, this wasn't a salon. It was
an auto collision repair shop slash bird breeder. So they're
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now where was I? All right? One of the great
things about this podcast, which sets it apart from three
or four other podcasts out there, On this show, it's
a chance for two American icons to chat one on
one with each other, candidly American. No hold on, I'm
not done. To call my next guest in American Icon
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would actually be an understatement. She began her show business
career when she was only eleven months old as a
model for Ivory Soap. Can you imagine that eleven months old?
It's incredible. This blatant disregard for child labor laws catapulted
her and to start him. At twelve, she starred in
the breakout film Pretty Baby, directed by Lewis Malley, it's
(02:47):
actually Louis mal You're mispronouncing it, are you sure? Oh?
Because look at this that reads If you look there,
that reads Louis Malley. To me, how would you pronounce this?
I'm actually I'm pretty sure it's Gluie maw He's an
acclaimed French filmmaker. Actually is he? Well, did he direct
any of the Cannonball Run movies? No, but I can
(03:08):
fact check that. See if Lewis malle directed any Cannonball
Run movies? Can you do that? Caroline? Okay, I'm in
the middle of my guest introduction. It's supposed to be
a big build up to a discussion between two American icons,
and you've you've really disrupted the flow. So can I
finish this? Go ahead? Okay. She was the youngest fashion
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model to ever appear on the cover of Voge, a
regular at famed New York discotheque Studio fifty four, and then,
for some crazy reason, she decided to leave all that
fun and excitement of modeling and starring in movies to
attend Princeton University. Wow, is this a typo? Is this really? Okay?
This is not a move I would have made. No way. Well,
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we'll have to talk about that anyway. She's an absolute legend,
you know her from everything from the Blue Lagoon to
Suddenly Susan. It is my extreme emnor to Welcome to
the Ron Burgundy Podcast, the iconic Brookshields. But first let's
take a commercial break and we are back Ron Burgundy Podcast.
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As I mentioned before, what an exciting episode we are
with an icon Brookshields. Brooke, how are you today? Thanks
for joining us. Oh, I'm fine. Thank you so much
for inviting me. Brooke. I'm sorry if you hold on
for a second, I need to do a live commercial read. Um.
I know you you just got on the phone, but
I just have to kind of take care of business here.
(04:43):
Squatty potty. It's that little stool you put in your
bathroom to make sure you're using the toilet correctly when
you're doing a number two. Okay, you know, Caroline, I
don't want to have to read this ad right now,
not with brook Shields online. Can we can we just
do this later? Absolutely could have read it. Leader. That
was the decision you just made on your own. What's
done is done? Uh, Brookshields. Let me just ask you
(05:07):
this about your name, Brooke. Is it short for Brookline, Massachusetts.
It's actually not, but um my, mom, uh. She liked
a photograph and the photographer was named Christian Brooks, I think,
and so she liked the name brook and she So
you're not let's put this to rest. You're not from Brookline, Massachusetts.
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I'm not. I'm from where were you born? Born and
raised in Manhattan? Oh? Okay, well, then who am I thinking?
Was born in Brookline, Massachusetts. That's an American icon. Oh,
I you know who I'm thinking of. It's it's Michael Dukakus.
Never mind. Oh you know I went to school with
Andrea his daughter. Oh my gosh, were you so nervous
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around Andrew all the time because her father was Michael
Dukakis an American icon? You know what? She's really really
bright and so her I'm sure. I'm sure. I As
a point, I try to not hang out with people
who are smarter than me because I get sweaty palms
and it can be intimidating. It's formidable, it's more formidable.
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It's a good word. If you use that word with
smart people, I think, well, thank you, see Carolina, I
am Brooke thinks I'm smart. Ron wrote formidable down the
pad and it's been waiting to use it all day.
Good it's the word a day. Maybe you should do
a word every day. I wrote formidable, and then right
next the word I'm going to use tomorrow is coxyx,
which is the medical term for your tailbone. That would
(06:44):
be more appropriate for the potty day. That's true, Brooke.
You've had such an impressive career and you truly are
an American. I kond of and it feels like it's
impossible that we'll have time to cover everything. So forgive
me if I ask you about some of the things
you've talked about a zillion times before. Okay, I think
people will kill me if I am interviewing Brookshields and
(07:07):
I didn't ask you about the big stuff. So let's
get right into it, all right. Tell me about your
two thousand thirteen guest appearance on the ABC sitcom Super
Fun Night. Uh, well, I'm sure that's the first thing
people come up to you and they say, Super Fun Night.
I can't go through a week without being It's become
(07:30):
a cult, Broke. I want to talk about modeling. Um.
I think there's a huge misconception that you know modeling
is easy but I know from experience it's actually very
hard work. And you started so young. Do you remember
your first big modeling gig where you really felt like, WHOA,
(07:50):
I am a model? Um? I remember getting a cover
try Yes seventeen magazine and that I was so excited
about it and I didn't get it and it was crushing.
It was crushing to me. And within the next year
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or so, I then finally got the cover and I
remember thinking, I'm a I'm the real deal. I've been
doing catalogs. It was my first sort of major you
were part of the club, you were you would invited
to the party. I'll tell you the first time I
felt like a model of And of course I've been.
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I've been doing some male modeling over the years, but
the first big one for me had to be in
nineteen and I did a print campaign for Virginia Slims
the cigarettes. Yes, and I'm sure you're wondering, excuse me,
Ron Burgundy. It was in an advertisement for Ladies cigarettes. Yes,
I was, but you were ahead of your time and
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was ahead of my time. I love the product too.
They were sexy, definitely as a sexy approach, so it
seems very appropriate you know what, I really appreciate that
because I used to walk around and smoke, you know,
the small, thin, little Virginia slims, and people would give
me a lot of flak. But I don't necessarily need
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or needed back then a full cigarette. And clearly comfortable
in your masculinity. Well that's that's exactly right, and thank
you for for recognizing that. And I also, I mean,
I felt a responsibility to do it as a journalist.
So I ask you, Brooke, are you comfortable with your femininity? Femininity?
How do you say it? You got femininity? I have
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become much more so since since having children. Actually, prior
to kids, I think just anything. Femininity was also synonymous
with um beauty to me, and for a long time
I sort of didn't want to pay attention to the physical,
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to anything external, anything sort of and part of being
feminine was an external sort of expression of all that.
And it wasn't until I mean really until I got
pregnant and I started feeling that sense of female I
don't know, power, and then the femininity sort of grew
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out of that because I used to think, oh, I
had to be the strong, tough one, so I was
always you know, the femininity was always also synonymous with
frail and petite and dainty and waif like. And I've
never been those things, wearing white lace gloves and carrying
a parasol out in the summertime. Absolutely, And so that
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was it took me a while to sort of appreciate
how badass femininity can be. You're not going to get
an argument from me. I mean, you know, some say
that I exude toxic amounts of masculinity, but I also
have a feminine side, and I think every man does
and they shouldn't be afraid to embrace it. Do you agree?
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I totally agree. In fact, I think it just highlights
the masculinity in the right way. I think when they
work in conjunction with each other, I think that's the sexiest. Wow.
I've started wearing lipstick once a week just to try
it out. You carry yourself then, totally totally do you
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stand a little taller? Um doing a seat on the
city bus? Sorry? Go ahead, it chose a different side
to people. Sorry interrupted you? Um, no, no, I try
not to do that again, please, I won't. Okay, I'm
doing a show called a pilot. We're doing a pilot
(11:48):
called glamorous, and it's all about the makeup world, and
it's all about what we were talking about, this sort
of masculine feminine and this celebration and kind of embracing it,
and it's so refreshing. So this is full circle. This
is full circle here. Yep, we have to we have
to talk about your classic Calvin Klein Jenes commercials. I mean,
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they are, let's face it, they are part of American
pop cultural history. And I mean, how how many years
later and we're still talking about them specifically because I'm
bringing them up. And but you said, and I quote
unless you want to say it. Um, you said, you
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want to know what comes between me and my Calvin's.
And then you took a pause and said nothing. And
my question is what did you mean by that? Well,
first of all, you are one of the first people
to properly quote it. What do people usually says? They
have always said, nothing comes between me and my Calvin's. Now,
(12:52):
I'm sure I was probably really naive at that age anyway,
But the idea of the whole series of commercials was
that each sentence, each saying, had a double meaning to it.
So there was this hoop lab about it. And they
pulled the commercial because they said it meant I wasn't
wearing any underwear or they started playing with the spelling
(13:15):
get out of the gutter. Yeah, so it was. I
thought it was pathetic. And yet the controversy surrounding it
and the novelty of their approach and advertising is why
when the new UM creative director, Raf Simmons, who's now left,
but when he came on, he brought back the image
(13:37):
that was used in the in those ads because it
became like this pop pop icon e Like you said,
the iconography of it was brought sort of into the
hip hop world. Yeah, I have a I have a
T shirt with your image on it. It's kind of cool.
I mean I had to buy mine. I had to buy.
I had to It wasn't cheap. I was like, can't
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you guys give you went? Wow, you had to buy
your own T shirt of yourself? Mm hmm. How much
was it one twenty or something like that? Definitely that's
a rip, right, you know that nothing's free. Well, you
just can't ever wear it or wash it. I know.
I'm afraid. What did anyone ever try to steal your
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Calvin Klein jeans? No? Um, but I've just found the
original pears. I had three of them. My mom kept everything,
and I recently was going through a warehouse of stuff, literally,
and she had this whole Calvin. I've kept every single
(14:44):
mustache comb I've ever owned, just in case or some
of them really pretty like that might be really pretty.
Some of them are bejeweled, some of them are Sadly,
I have to admit some. A lot of them are
made of ivory. I've contributed to the ivory ivory trade.
That's not Maybe it wasn't endangered. Then maybe it wasn't.
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Let's just say that. And let's just say I didn't
go hunt elephants too so that I could get the
tusks to make my own mustache comb. No, let's say
that didn't happen, because it didn't say it didn't. And
if I was in a court of law, let's get
off this topic. Um. You know one time I had
a pair of jeans stolen from me and they weren't Calvin's.
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They were Lee Jeans, also a good brand. Levi's lead
the Wrangler. Those are the originals. Yeah, I had an
incident with a rottweiler tried to steal jeans from me.
Were they on you? They were on my person? Yes?
Where was this? This was at the Pasadenas Rose Bowl
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swap meat in the Rottweiler section. Ah did he he?
Or she? Doesn't matter? Yeah, I don't know. It was
a he. There was a big old set of balls
on that one. He was super charged with testosterone sensing
masculine yep. And we had a show down. I you
know what, I started the fight. This is so much
(16:14):
about the toxic masculine anywhere. Just so I went to
the rott Wilder section of the Rose Bowl swap meat,
and I just said, who wants a piece of me?
I just was feeling a bit randy that day. Rott
Wilder is an explosive, vicious animal. Beautiful, Yes, And you know,
while the rottwater was pinning me down and ripping my
(16:37):
lee jeans to shreds, I remember thinking I stopped screaming
and remember thinking this is a gorgeous animal, the power
of the beauty, the majesty, and all went slow. Yeah,
it all went slow. It's that fight or flight and
exactly everything slowed down. Brook. Let me ask you this,
Let me let me I'm gonna radically change subjects here
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or maybe not so because you probably wore your your
Calvin clients to this place. Do you have any great
memories of Studio fifty four. I have the best memories
from Studio fifty Um. I first went there with Steve
Ruebel and Calvin Klein. Actually that guy didn't like me. Yeah,
(17:21):
you never let me in. No, was he manning the door? Yeah,
he was manning the door. He said, Ron Burgundy, I
don't like you. I will never let you in my nightclub.
Oh he's probably just jealous. Obviously that never happened to you. No,
And I never got subjected to the picking process. And
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I also always went really early. My mom would let
me go, but we would have to I'd have to
go home because I had school the next It wasn't
like an early bird special. Yeah, but I really all
I wanted to do was dance. Would you get there? What? PM? No,
they didn't open the doors until later, so it was
like eight. Like if there was an event, I could
(18:05):
get there right on time and then dance a few hours.
I would just go directly to the dance floor and
and then I'd gone home. I mean I And the
interesting thing was I was never offered any drugs. I was.
It was almost as if they were all on protection
(18:25):
duty or something from me, Like I was like the mascot.
I was sort of offs for you. They were. I
mean it was it was the late seventies, early eighties,
and it was crazy, but I felt I was protected.
And you know, it's interesting. There's a room that they
call the it's on the fourth floor, and yeah, I
(18:47):
think it was. It was some druggy room or some
layer of some kind. And I never obviously never went
past the dance floor. And then when I did Cabaret
on Broadway, we did it at Studio fifty four, and
my dressing room was that actual room on the floor
in that room, and it was haunted. Haunted, No, no,
(19:10):
And it wasn't haunted, but it was. It actually had
a good energy to it. You hung out, run, you
had a club in New York though that you frequented. Well,
I would go to the you know, like I said,
I couldn't get into Studio fifty four, so I went
to a place called Studio fifty two and it was
a couple of blocks down, and you know, it wasn't
the same crowd. I mean, I hung out with like
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Ed Cotch and a couple of the couple of guys
from shan on a. You know it was all right, Um,
you didn't have to get there early because it was
never full. He liked dancing. Ed Ed could really cut
a rug. He loved it. But I gotta be honest,
My pride was hurt that I never got in. And
(19:52):
this happened to me right in front of Grace Jones
and she laughed at me. But and I've never told
this story. But I got back at the studio fifty
four people. I called some buddies in the I R S.
And I just made up a bunch of wild stories
and I told them, you know what, go They've got
cash hidden in the ceiling and a safe, you know,
filled with like three hundred ludes in it. And I just,
(20:15):
you know, I made up a bunch of crazy lives
and a reason for the demise. Well, and then it
turned out to actually be true. So how did you
even know? I don't know. I don't It was just
a wild swing and I happened to be I happen
to be so right, And I don't know. I've mixed
emotions about that. No, I probably shouldn't have told that story. Well, no,
(20:38):
I won't. I mean, it's what's done. It's done. But
it also you know, you sort of go like, oh
my god, that was an institution and you brought it down.
I brought it down. I did, ye, which you know
it was the right thing. I mean, were you know
it was going to run its course eventually, but I
brought it down prematurely. Pery could had another thirty years.
But maybe that was good. Maybe it's like it's like,
(20:59):
you know, when these people die really early, they get
to thank you because I've had some sleepless nights over
my behavior. But now you're you're easing my conscience. Yeah.
I never am not good with regret. Yeah, I don't
have time for regret. I'm just like Mary J. Blige,
No drama, right y, that's what you always say. So
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you're at the height of your celebrity, You're on magazine covers,
you're starring in movies, and and then you went to college.
Why because I had always wanted to go and it
was a good It was a good school. To Princeton.
That's like a really hard school. It's a very hard
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So you do all that work, you're already rich, and famous,
which you know, which I think we all know fulfills
absolutely everything in a person's life. What what was missing
for Brookshields that you would make such a crazy decision
to attend college with more boring people like I just
can't imagine it. Um, I think I had the the
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vision and the sort of foresight to know. Now, maybe
because I had been working for so many decades by
that point, there's a sense of it wasn't something I
was striving for, something I had done all my life,
so it was a lot as much I just assumed
I would always continue it, but I also knew the
(22:28):
way the industry breaks you down, the way it tries
to attack you for everything. And now, I mean, I
don't even think I could handle it if now with
social media. But the idea of attaining something that could
not be taken away from you and was arguably threatening
to people was really exciting to me. And four years
(22:54):
of just being in one environment and this beautiful setting,
I mean, I had it. There was a dream quality
to it for me. You know, I wanted I wanted
to go to a old IVY League college, the IVY
on the walls and you know, football games and so
there was definitely in the heart of Texas, right Ivy,
(23:16):
mostly in the southwest, is that correct? Actually Swiss? Yeah,
this was in Princess in Baltimore, Jersey, New Jersey. Yeah.
I noticed though my first UM press conference after I
had been at school for a semester. They didn't like
me having more articulate answers. Oh, very threatened. They were threatened.
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They sort of wanted little Brook again, and they wanted
to catch me in things. And it was it was
fun to sort of play around with them in a way,
A very empowering time for you, Sanctuary, it was, and
it was fun. Do you have I want to say?
And this is a serious question when someone's big, Well,
(24:03):
my questions have been serious, I know, but I'm yeah,
of course, I just um no. But just when you
phrase it like that, it makes like I stayed up
all night to do this research. Anyway, go ahead, Carolina, Okay.
Do you ever want to say to someone when they're
being they're undermining you, or just do you ever want
(24:24):
to just say you, I went to Princeton. Um, you
didn't go to school, But I would say that if
she went to a real hole. Sarah Lawrence, So, Sarah
Lawrence is not. Oh okay, well I'm not hearing good
things lately. No, it's a very very good school. Sorry,
(24:45):
go ahead, broke, go ahead. Um No. You know what's
even better is just thinking that and then not reducing
yourself to their level. You're so much more emotionally mature,
and I am, because I would just I would hammer
people with that as soon as I walked into the door. Overtly.
(25:07):
I won't ever throw it in someone's face because I
think by doing that you've weakened your position, because you've
gotten petty. But you could always wear a jacket and
then if they're being rude, un zip it and you
have a Princeton shirt under yes, right, or like scratch
your scratch society of your face, but have your class
(25:27):
ring showing a lot, have the fight song queued up
on your cellular device ready to play at any time,
and say, oh, sorry, that's just my school, that's just
the theme song. Wow, I wish I had gone to college.
You didn't. You didn't go to well, you've taken some
online course that took some online Phoenix University. Yes, before
(25:50):
they were located in Phoenix. Oh okay, So can we
talk about the Brookshields Timeless collection for a moment you're
doing that with with QVC and and yes, I'm just saying,
you know, maybe you could introduce me to some of
the folks at QVC because I'd like to launch my
own fashion line, but they're not returning my calls. Ron
(26:13):
has been doing some sketches on scrap paper, kind of
just pants and pants. It's it's it's actually a line
of formal wear for infants. Um a lot of tuxes
and ball gowns. Oh, there's some very room entering sketches.
I mean it makes the met Ball look like an
episode of he Haw, you know, so wow. You know
(26:36):
what's good about that is that, especially if the kids
can't walk, you don't have to worry about shoes, and
that sometimes can make or break an entire outfit. Thank you, Broke,
thank you. I can introduce you to some of the
creative team. They are a give me names right now?
Can you give me names and phone numbers right now?
(26:58):
They're in Philly. I'll um, I'll put you in touch
with the right people. I think that it's a really
amazing team of people. So why won't they get back
to me. You've just been mailing them in with I mean,
maybe we should just start getting on the internet more.
You know what, I'm try to sell a deep fryar
or a panini oven or something like that, because maybe
(27:21):
the fashion game is not is not in me. It's
only baby clothes or baby clothes or bust. You did
say ballgowns, but baby ballgowns, baby ballgowns, baby ballgowns. Maybe petwear?
What about pet wear? Pet wear? Okay, wait, wait, wait,
hold on here, let me write this down. Pet war.
(27:41):
I could see that ron Burgundy pet wear. It has
a nice If you can get me in with the
QBC folks, that would just and I won't expect anything
other than just a conversation, so Brook, that would be
hugely helpful. Absolutely, And I think if you started with pets,
there's such a uh, it doesn't matter masculine, feminine, you know,
(28:02):
it's they're such a big, big audience. Well, of course,
my best friend is my dog Baxter, so I know
everything about Yes, Brooke, let me. You've been such a
mental health advocate over the years, and I know at
times it's it's been very difficult, both personally and publicly,
and I just want to take a moment to commend
you for your bravery with that. But I'd also like
(28:23):
to ask you if you have a number of a therapist. Um,
it's not for me, it's for Carolina. Uh, well that's
a very personal Well I'm trying to help you, Carolina,
I really think you should see someone. It's it's just
sometimes it's like you're trying to undermine me or sabotage
the work I'm doing on the show. And I think
I think you should talk to a professional, the professional
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recommended by Brookshields. Run. How am I trying to sabotage you?
That seems so weird and paranoid. Maybe you should see
a therapist And that's ridiculous, that's ridiculous. Or maybe or
what about like a marriage counselor but for people that
have to work so closely to each other, you know,
maybe you both some stuff off your chest about the
(29:08):
other person, but in a safe and I'll stay for
the first five minutes check it out, and then I'll
come back for the last five I see what you
can come in. I mean I can mediate, but Brooke,
you would mediate a counseling session between us, that would
be I would absolutely I did, but I told you
(29:28):
I had a Well it's a minor in psych But
you know what, why don't when we're in Philly together. Well,
they have these quiet rooms. Perfect, have these quiet rooms
at QBC because you usually have to sometimes stay there
all night because it runs QBC runs seven. Um, but
they have these quiet rooms, almost like nap rooms in
(29:48):
a hospital or something, and we could probably use one
of those rooms. Perfect. I think that would work great.
But once again, just as long as we know the
expectation level of me coming in for the first five minutes.
If I like it, I'll stay. Maybe we'll just both
commit to staying. Well, if I get on QVC, I'll
(30:10):
totally commit. Yeah, well you've you've truly done it all. Brooke, Um,
I mean Brookshields, much like Ron Burgundy is a household name.
You've met every celebrity there is to meet. Is there
anyone you you would still like to meet? Like, let
me guess, would you like to meet the guys from
that band who sing the song take Me to Church?
(30:31):
I would love that I play that all the time.
Take me to church. I'll worship you like a dog
at the shine of your lives. You know that those guys. Yes,
I'd love to meet that guy. I get kitty when
I meet famous people. Oh I My life is dedicated
in the pursuit of meeting famous people. Ron actually recently
(30:54):
has been just going to l a X Airport and
just hanging down. I followed the MZ guys and just
stay on their shoulders. So smart, and I'm just like,
who do we got coming in today? Yeah? I like
meeting famous people. I mean, I think it's just I
still get star struck. I mean I was like that
since I was a little kid. The most star struck
(31:16):
I ever got was when I met Nick Nulty. That
was your most I was weak in the knees and
I just I didn't know what to say. I couldn't
even say anything. I just gave him a bear hug,
give him a bear hug, and and I just I'm
(31:38):
so proud of you. It's so unsettling. Are you mistaken
for anybody ever? Uh? There have been a couple periods
of time where I haven't had a mustache, very rare,
and I've been mistaken for Rachel Maddow. Umh. So other
(32:00):
than that, Nope, that's good old RB in the house.
You're so iconically you know, recognizable then, and that's what
we share, that's our common bond. The reference is often
like they'll say, well, you know Brookshields, ron Burgner, they're
both like one word kind of in the same sentence. Yes,
(32:22):
it's nice to not be alone. Actually, I mean it's
for a while. That was really isolating to me growing up.
But finding someone that's akin to an understanding what it's
like it is comforting. Brookshields. We cannot thank you enough
for visiting us today on the podcast. It has been
(32:43):
an absolute treat. Thank you for spending the time with us.
Thank you for all your insight and views on life
and your career, and it's been truly fascinating. Thank you
very much. Well, I will get those numbers to you
as soon as I that would be great. And and
for our listeners if you haven't seen it, check out
the episode of Super Fun Night featuring brook Shields. She's
(33:04):
done so much in her career, but she was a
guest star on that show and she was she was terrific.
And yes, if you could get me the the therapist
referral for Carolina, that would be great. I'll get a couple.
Thank you, Brooke. Thank you. We really appreciate it, and
we'll be right back with more on the Ron Burgundy
(33:24):
Podcast right after this. Welcome back to the Ron Burgundy Podcast.
This is Ron Burgundy along with Carolina. Here are my
final thoughts. Today. We talked to Canada's Brookshields class act
(33:50):
through and through and the one thing that was remarkable
to me is her humility and grace, something I wish
I had more of. If we could bottle that class
and grace and dignity and give nine to our world
leaders and the other three percent to Carolina, I guarantee
(34:10):
we would solve the world's problems. So of the Donald
Trump's and the Kim Jungens and the Alexander Putin's out there,
if you happen to be listening, try to handle yourself
like Brookshields, and you might just might save the world.
(34:32):
This is Ron Burgundy. Until next time, don't use public restrooms.
The Ron Burgundy Podcast is a production of I Heart
Radio and Funnier Down. I'm Ron Burgundy, the host, writer
and executive producer. Carolina Barlow is my co host, writer
(34:53):
and producer. Our producers are Jack O'Brien, Nixed of Miles
Gray and Whitney Outday. Our executive producer is Mike fare
Our consulting producer is Andrew Steele. Our coordinating producer is
Colin McDow. Our associate producers are Anna Hosnian and Sophie Lichtroman.
Our writer is Jake Fogers. Our production coordinator is Hannah Jacobson.
(35:16):
This episode was engineered, mixed, and edited by Nick Stop
Until next time, This is Ron Berger No No in
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