May 23, 2023 • 58 mins
Legendary actor and comedian David Cross joins to discuss his acclaimed career in entertainment. From “Mr. Show” with Bob Odenkirk to “Arrested Development” to the hundreds of cities he’s toured doing standup, Peter and David chop it up like old friends. There’s a strong defense of Matt Ryan’s career, some “Chipmunks” movies talk, and excitement over his new role in “The Umbrella Academy” season coming out soon.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Season with Peter Scheger is a production of the
NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's up, everybody, This is
Peter Scheger. This is the Season with Peter Schrager. And
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it is the third Tuesday in May.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
When we're recording this.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
And I'll tell you, usually this is like the dark
dead time of the NFL offseason anything. But I'm joined
here by my producer, Aaron wang Kauffman. Aaron, the league
meeting is going on right now, and it is not
the one in March. It's the one in Man. Usually
the one in March is where all the big news
comes out. But yesterday there was a few news items
that I'm going to run through at the listeners, and
(00:54):
I want to get your thoughts on one of them.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
First off, the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
In a few years then Mech's site is going to
be in San Francisco, Santa Clara. It's going to be
at Levi Stadium at Super Bowl sixties.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
That's news number two.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The Draft, which has been a great sensation for so
many of these host cities that aren't getting Super Bowls
in the near future. Next year's is in Detroit. That's
been decided already the following year has been announced that
it's going to be in green Bay.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Let me get your thoughts to someone who just got
back from Kansas City for the draft green Bay. Let's see,
three hundred thousand people came to Kansas City for the draft.
There are one hundred thousand residents of Green Bay. There
are not a ton of hotel options, and yet it
is a football mecha. Your reaction to green Bay as
the choice for the NFL for the draft.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Well, someone who went to school in Minnesota and loves
the Midwest, I am all for like these smaller Midwest
cities getting timed to charm people. So I'm all about it.
I think it'll be It'll be a lot of people
in a smaller city.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Though I've been to Green Bay several times for Packers' games.
You drive up and similar to Buffalo, maybe even more,
it's a town. It is an intimate setting in that
there are people's homes.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Just a stone's throw from lambeau Field.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
There's not a ton of you know, modern hotels where
they're not there's no four seasons in green Bay, and
there's no slew of chains.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I'm curious how they're going to do all that.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
But I also know Peter O'Reilly, who runs the events
for the NFL, uh has so many ideas and the
league would not put their full strength behind something if
they thought it was gonna be a logistical nightmare.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
They will figure it out, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
The controversial news that came out late Monday night, and
at this point in you know, the NFL news cycle,
there's few things that are controversial or that are that
are you know, even debated amongst the owners when it
comes to like let's take a vote for it, and
it comes of all things Thursday night Flex scheduling. All right,
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here's what it is. In short, Amazon had this great
first year. They put a great effort in. They pay
a ton of money, and Amazon was not assured and
late games of the season that are gonna be you know,
total hits. You look at the schedule right now. Weeks
thirteen to seventeen are all good matchups. They include New
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England and Pittsburgh. They include you know, a Jets Browns game,
They include big teams, and yet there was no assurance
that these games are gonna matter late for them paying
that money and for the quality of the product on television,
for the viewers at home. The discussion began really during
the season and kind of bubbled up in March where
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they tabled it should Amazon and the league have the
right to get flex scheduling rules like we see on
Sunday Night Football and Monday Night Football for those Thursday
night matchups, and they needed twenty four votes.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
They didn't have those twenty four votes. It was tabled
until May.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Back in March and John Marra, the owner of the Giants,
came out staunchly against it, on his premise being it's
for the you know, the fans who pay money to
go see a game on a Sunday. You buy four tickets, times,
get a hotel if it's out of town. You invest
your entire Sunday plan based on a schedule release that
happened last week, and then you find out that wait
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a second, that game's not on a Sunday and it's
not being flexed to the night time, which although an inconvenience,
you can adjust. Maybe you have to buy a new
flight the next one. Whatever it is. No, this game
is going to be seventy two hours earlier. It's going
to actually be on Thursday night. Now.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Marrow was very outspoken about it.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I saw Mark Davis was outspoken about it against it. Quietly,
there were a lot of people who were for it, saying, hey,
this is good for the product of the game. The
NBA doesn't have a set scheduled time until a day out.
People seem to make a work college football. You know
who you're playing and where, you don't know when the
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time of those games are, and we're a couple of
months from the start of the season.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's been some of the arguments.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
The argument that really struck me, though, was what Jerry
Jones said in a public comment and said that only
seven percent of the NFL's fans are ever going to
step into an NFL stadium, and that ninety three percent
of NFL fans are watching at home. So whether we
want to dismiss the fan that pays for the season
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tickets all that, and the owners would swear up and down,
and the league would swear up and down, and I
agree they don't want to inconvenience anyone. The best product
possible on that TV, and the best game possible might
benefit the fans more from a greater, greater whole.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm not making that argument.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I thought it was really interesting that, you know, one
of the key votes was Denver and that's the Penner family,
and Craig Penner, the new owner of the Broncos, was
kind of wavering and where are we going to go
with this thing? And at the end of the day,
it's the Walmart family that votes yes to assure the
Amazon family gets this incredible Thursday night deal. Now here's
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part of the stuff that made sure it happened a
and this is big. Twenty eight days in advance. The
teams are gonna be notified. So this isn't Sunday Night
Football where ten days out you're like, you're gonna be
playing a night game and figure it out twenty eight days.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I would think the schedule.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Makers are gonna be really really you know, conservative and
saying that game is irrelevant four weeks out, especially with
all those different games and I don't have them up now,
but they're all good games on paper in May. You know,
I don't think that's gonna be something where they're gonna
be rushing to make a change. Second part of it
from what I hear, and these are come from sources
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and you can aggregate this and do whatever you want,
Like the Sunday night requirements are gonna be one thing.
The Monday night requirements to flex a game from Sunday
to Monday are gonna be a little harder. And I'm
told that the Sunday flex to Thursday, these two teams
better be basically winless or have five wins, or it
just must be a complete, complete bomb of a game.
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And one of the games people are circling are that
is a Rams Saints game and it's in LA and
it's Rylands comes to the Rams. They're like, well, that
there's a chance both those teams think next year and
there's a chance that games flex out.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But mind this worth noting that's Christmas weekend. Are you
really gonna.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Be so occupied you got to flex out of a
Christmas weekend Thursday night game and change all these fans.
Is the NFL gonna say, yeah, I know, Saints fans,
you bought this ticket for Thursday, but actually that game's
on a Sunday in LA.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You gotta figure it out. Sorry, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And the other part of it is the Chargers have
a Saturday night game that weekend, I believe against the
Buffalo Bills that's already being played Are you really gonna
flex a game out from Thursday night and say the
Chargers are gonna play on Saturday night and the Rams
are gonna play on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Highly unlikely. So the thresholds and.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
The barriers are different, and they're stacked differently for Sunday
night flex from a Sunday game, from a Sunday flex
to a Monday game, from a Sunday game to a
Thursday night game. I'll be honest, we're here in May.
If there's more than one, I'd be shocked. Aaron your
thoughts on the Thursday night deal, and we didn't even
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get into the player safety and some of the real
concerns there.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at the games right now.
So just going from week thirteen on, we have Seahawks
at Cowboys. That should be a great game.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
They're not flexing the Cowboys. Sorry, I'm drinking my coffee.
They're not ever flexing the Cowboys. Amazon is not like,
oh yeah, take the Cowboys away, go on.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Like you said.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Week fourteen is Pats at Steelers. There's I could see
that being a really exciting game, especially.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Steelers national brand Belichick face of the league. They're never
gonna well, I shouldn't say never, doubtful.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Go on week fifteen, Chargers at Raiders. That seems like
two teams that will be somewhat relevant and be competing for,
you know, seating.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Justin Herbert and the Chargers six different primetime games. The
NFL is banking on that team being a big game.
And you know, again, Amazon, they say, we don't want
Justin Arbor given us someone else.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
No, I don't see it.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Sixteen is that Saints at Rams game you were talking about,
and then seventeen is Jets Browns and that's another game
that could have huge playoff implications. So I mean, I
think it's good in the sense that, hey, if Aaron Rodgers,
god forbid, gets hurt and has to miss the entire season,
yeah maybe then things will be different. But I'm not
looking at any of these Thursday night football games like
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I don't want to watch that. So these all look good.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I don't think it's it's as big of a deal
as as you know, the media is making it out
to be right now, and the same people and this
is my here's my you know, my moment. I know
I work for this shield, but the same people who
moan about the you know, this.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Game sucks, Why is this? Why is this on? Why
am I watching this?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
You know, are going to be the same people that say,
well that you can't do flex, so just take it
for what it's worth and let's see. Let's see it
for a year, and it's only a one year deal,
and it might be a colossal disaster and they might
flex out one of these games and then one of
the teams wasn't prepared and they're knocked out of the
playoffs because of injuries and whoever knows in twenty eight
days in advance, and they were playing Thursday and Sunday,
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and it was just too much quick of a turnaround
from Sunday to Thursday. I get it. All that stuff. Really,
that's why eight teams voted against it, and that's why
everyone's up in arms. But I would say, let's give
it a year and let's see and realize that, you know,
the media partners, they pay a lot of money, and
it sounds like, you know, for the better of the
entertainment product on the on the couch as opposed to
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the fans in the stadium that tipped the scales real quick.
Before we get to our guest, which is a different
kind of guest for us, and I'm curious see how
it goes. I wanted to talk real quick about the
biggest sensation right now in football stadiums around the country,
and I'm not talking about OTAs and I'm not talking
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about this Taylor Swift thing is legit, man, Like I
said before, we got on air, and we've got our
friend Jason English from iHeart here as well and Aaron.
I have never never, in all my years working for
the NFL gotten so many texts from friends in the
industry outside the industry. Got one from a guy who
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you know, knows me sort of way, not close enough
to even ask this. Hey, bro, I know you're tight
with the Jets. I know you're tight with the Giants. Bro,
I know you work for the NFL. I'm sure there's
a sweet I'm sure is there any way to get
tickets to these Taylor Swift concerts?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I did not see this coming.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I did maybe I am just it's a gap in
my pop culture knowledge. I had no idea Taylor Swift
is as huge as she is. To the fact that
I'm not talking one friend, two friends, I'm talking best
friends who know who do want to ask me for
Super Bowl tickets.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
They don't ask me for Giants.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Raiders in the middle of September where they would love
to take their son because it's just too big of
an asks weird. The text always started this, I know
it's a long shot and I feel awful asking, but
do you have any The answer is I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I have made calls.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I called Robert Sala, I called Joe Shane, I called
the PR guy from the Jets, Eric Gelfind. I've called
several people just to see, Hey, everyone's willing to pay
face value, probably more. And the answer is a hearty
laugh from all them. There is nothing we can do.
And it's not because they don't hook ups. The tickets
today they're all spoken for, Aaron, did you have any idea?
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Taylor Swift is the sensation that she is And there's
been trends pieces about the dads wearing all this stuff
and it's it's become a whole thing. Every weekend at
a different football stadium. Met life is Memorial Day weekend
and I am zero for twenty with friends asking me
for tickets. What do you say?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, I mean, she's beyond huge, like no one else
I think really at this point could have a tour
like that. I have friends who went through the whole
ticket pre sale fiasco where they were trying to sign
up and use credit card. You sign up for a
credit card to get early access and didn't get the
ticket still and now have this credit card. And I
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personally am not like a huge Taylor Swift fan, like.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Are you apathetic or like not a fan like to
the point where I know all her songs, like I
just wouldn't buy a ticket, or are you like I
don't know if you want to upset?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Like there's the Beehive with Beyonce, like are we doing this?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
So I personally like, I'm shooter.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I just can't go.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
She has some really great pop songs. I think I
don't like her lyrics generally, Like she has a song
where she rhymes cardigan and car again, and I think
that's lazy. She has incredible pop songs. She's worked with
some incredible artists, and there are songs of hers that
I love, but I'm not like, oh, every single song
I love, love Love, So yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I think I was starting off because I imagine, you know, okay,
Beyonce's on tour.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Everyone goes and sees it.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I would think, like Lady gagas on to where everyone
goes and sees it, and then you got like your
old heads, like Bruce is at the you know we're
going and everyone's going to see Springsteen or even Dave
Matthews too. I guess that's really dating me, Dave Matthews.
But I've never in my life seen something like this
Taylor Swift thing. So Taylor, if you're listening to the
season with Peter Schrager, you're welcome to be a guest.
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Aaron will call him sick that day, we'll fill in
for a different producer. I appreciate your music. I think
you're pretty good. I dig it, I think you're fine.
I like it. So I won't be going to the concert,
and nowhere will any of my friends who asked for
tickets because I couldn't hook him up.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And I feel kind of bad about that.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Aaron our guest. I'm super excited. One of my favorite comedians,
one of my favorite actors in the mini shows and
movies he's been in. But I don't know him. I
don't know if he likes football. I don't know if
he knows who I am, and that makes for really
good spontaneous podcasting. Actor comedian David Cross is up next.
(15:04):
All right, As I mentioned the monologue, huge fan of
this guy, have long been just an admirer from afar.
And when Aaron and Jason we got to the off
season of the NFL season and said, let's have a
lot more guests who aren't necessarily NFL coaches or players
general managers. Who do you want? And I said, I
want X y Z And one of the names was
David Cross, who I have just I just I'm a
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huge fan of And sure enough I was blown away.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
We got an.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Email response back saying, yeah, David Cross is willing to
join you guys, actor comedian, a long time guy who's
been entertaining you for years. David Cross, Welcome to the
Peter Schrager The Season with Peter Schrager podcast.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Thank you. Yeah, usually it's an actor comedian bon vivant.
So if you want to add that, maybe go back.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
And you know, I think that's what I ultimately want
to do with my life. Yeah, Like I want to
be able to say bomb and what are the end
to just launch see a show at night, just go
to a gallery, like, what do you what is the
life of a bon vivant?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
You think you know, it's a lot of air ballooning,
and it's a lot of charity work for animals with
only three legs. And you know, I'm I'm really deeply
ensconced in the fashion industry. I do just cuffs. I
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do a lot of different cuffs, and I only do cuffs,
and it's just all kinds. It's it's crazy, it's all
over the place. But you know, it's a it's a
tough but enriching lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's good. Look, your career goes through obviously arrested development
and and your stand up career. But I started with
Mister Show, and that's where I think, you know, I started.
Night Live is always there. But then when Mister Show
came with you and Bob oden Kirk, it totally broke
the mold. And I think anyone who's a fan of
comedy and comedians today, especially in the sketch world, will
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point to that as you know, such a groundbreaker. Do
you still get that, I mean, do you do you
get that being stopped for you? Like, do people still
stop you mister Show? Or now we're so many years
remove where they you don't get that as much.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
You know, sure, Like I mean, it's you know, it's
all over the place. Some people have no idea about
mister Show, don't know, don't even know it existed, but
they know me from these other things. And other people
know mister Show but don't know the other things. So
it all depends. But I still definitely get a lot,
and I'm on tour currently and so meet a lot
(17:33):
of people who are bringing in kind of mister Show. Yeah,
minusha that or what a femura I guess is the
right word. Things that I've forgotten all about, Like Okay,
can you sign this, you know, weird hockey stick model
thing I made? It's from the whatever sketch and like,
I don't remember, I'll sign it, bring it over.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Uh, you know. I listened to Odin Kirk had his
his memoir that came out last year.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Listened to the audiobook and I loved it.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And he takes us through the origin of that show
and this like HBO and then taking a risk on
you guys, Can you take us through it from your
your lens? Like here, you guys are obviously established sketch guys,
and you've got different paths, but to come together and
be given that kind of platform on HBO at that age,
what was it like?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Well, I mean it was amazing and life altering. And
I was not nearly as established as Bob was. I.
Bob was on SNL briefly and then he was a
big part of The Ben Stiller Show as an actor
and a writer. But I was just a writer and
I was brought on midway through and Bob and I
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started working together just doing shows in La just you know,
with our friends, for our friends. With no we didn't
have an eye towards the future. Bob did eventually more
than I did. I was still like, well, let's get
drunk and have fun, and Bob's it was more focused.
And then we were doing these shows and they were clear,
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very very successful immediately, like people in the audience really
liked them, and it started to become a thing where
it was it felt like an event, like you wanted
to go to these shows when we put them on.
And then Bob, through his manager Bernie Berlstein, we started
bringing you know, and also there was a little bit
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of buzz so ABC is there and HBO's coming and.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Set the stage first, Is it like one of these
like small clubs, like I know that Luna Lounge is
like a big thing that everyone talks about, Like, is
it like one of those like small cafes. You guys
are doing a little underground and then all of a sudden,
why is Lorne Michael's in the crowd?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Like that kind of dude?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
It was even better than that. It was. It was
this place on Sunset right off of Librea called the
Diamond Club, and it was it was this cheesy, like
super cheesy Hollywood club where you know, it's like half
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as people or people who had just moved to La
who were way too much makeup and clone and stuff,
and then half like Russian and Eastern European and Armenian
dudes and like we you know, just that kind of crowd.
And then so there's this club right it's like at
disco dance club and in the back, like if you
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walk through this thing while everybody's dancing whatever, there's a
side room and it probably had a little stage, and
I think it held I'm going to guess at the
most it held maybe one hundred and twenty people at tops.
And that's where we start doing these shows. There's a
guy named Dave Wrath who was Now he's a huge,
(20:51):
big time manager, but he was a huge fan of
comedy and very helpful and manager at the time for
all kinds of like people that are very famous now
that and most of the people in that scene. And we,
as I said, we were just doing shows with each
other for each other and we would all have a
different night and you know, we were a very tight
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group and you know, it had there was everybody from
and a lot of musicians too, so like Maynard Keenan
and Jack Black would be hanging out and we all
used played with each other, you know, and and so
that's it was just a weird because you had to
go through that other.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, the Eastern European Nightclub a.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Little room in the back and it was it was
really it was really funny, but it was cool, you know,
and it was like a cheap We got a space
and we just did these shows and.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You put these shows on. And we've had Paul Rudd
on this podcast and I've gotten to know him just
living in the neighborhood and he talks like with great
lore about those years in la and like going into
being told Hey, TENACIOUSD are performing at this place at
this time, and like just the entire everyone who is
anyone would be there and it was like going to
that was kind of the the buzz around mister show
(22:09):
as well. And then HBO says, we're going to give
you guys a progress and what was that like, We're
going to go and do this on the Home Box
Office after you know, whatever show was on before you.
I don't know if Sex and the City or Dream
On whatever else was on at the time, but you know.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
What, I think it was dream On Ben Be. It was.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah, there wasn't a whole lot back then, and we
were part of their you know, the comedy block with
Chris Rock and there's some other stuff. And they said
to us, they were very specific about we don't want TV,
we don't want regular stuff that's going to be we
don't want SNL and we were not interested in that
(22:49):
kind of thing at all, and uh, and they encouraged
us to, you know, do what you want to do.
And we in four years, we only got one note
that we had to take kind of a standards and
practices note. That was it. And uh, they were very
I mean, there's a complete lead new regime there now.
But the people that we were working with that ushered
(23:10):
us in were really helpful, really amenable. And again, I
mean it was a cheap show to make. I mean
we barely got anything, and we made it look better
than it actually should have looked for the budget we had.
And you know, we were what Friday at twelve thirty
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in the morning or something like that, so it wasn't
we didn't have to do much to attain success for
that kind of slot at that time with that budget,
and you know we were critically successful and that's kind
of all they wanted. So it was a good deal.
And yeah, it was great.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You know, the aresa development gig.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
The story that is like urban legend or maybe true
you can confirm it is that you were dating a
young woman and you got this audition out in LA
and he said, I'll go for one day, but this
girl's in New York. I'm not going to be moving
my life out to LA. I'll try out for arrested development.
I'll just do it, see where it goes. You get
the job, and the rest is history. Tell us, really
the story and what really went down and when you
(24:12):
walked into is that is that a.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Good or it was? So the context to it was
I had been in LA for nine and a half years.
I moved there from Boston. And my joke, which was
based in truth, was like I moved to LA to
make enough money to move away from LA, you know,
which is I eventually after being there for nine and
(24:37):
a half years, and I had a bit of a
pause in work and I realized because I'd been saying
for years, like I want to get out of here.
I want to go to New York. And I had
this break where I had nothing coming up, and I
was like, I don't leave right now. I'm going to
wait here another month and then another job will come
and I'll be here for another two years. So I
(24:58):
took this opportunity and moved to And I didn't have
a lot of possessions. I still don't, I never did,
but I moved, put all this stuff in a one
of those little U haul things, moved to New York,
had a great time uh York and UH and doing
stand up and stuff. And then I met this woman
(25:19):
who we had a really good relationship and it eventually
lasted for like three and a half years. We're still friends.
And our kids play together. But you know, we were
in the in the midst of it, and I got
an offer for rested development and I didn't even look
at the script. I wasn't interested.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It was like, there's no way, no audition.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Nothing they offered you is like guy.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Initially they wanted me to look at job and I
and I read the script and I did not have
a handle on job at all. And once you see
will Arnett our net, it's and I did not have
a handle on it. But Tobias, who was meant to
be a you know, uh, part time I'm forgetting whatever
(26:07):
the phrase is, you know, but not a full time
cast guest star. Yeah, like a you know, six out
of eighteen episodes kind of thing, which already was appealing,
like oh, I'll just fly to LA We're not going
to one or two episodes out and go home. But
also beyond that, I just immediately knew who that character
was and and had a sense for it, and I
(26:30):
said can I And I was talking to Bitch for
Wits and the Russo brothers, the directors, and we were
talking on the phone because I said, I'm not I
don't you know, I'll do it if it's part time.
I just can't and they were like, yeah, that's great,
that's meant to be part time. And then I came
out to shoot the pilot, which was you know, you
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always take longer to shoot the pilot, and I was
probably like a ten day shoot, and I realized around
the third day that it's really something special. This is
just from the pilot. And the cast was amazing, the
dialogue was great, the direct it was fun. They let
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us play around and improvise. And I called my girlfriend
from the little bridge thing that's in the Beverly what's
across from the Beverly Center, the Beverly Connection, right across
the street is a smaller one. I was up on
this little bridge thing and I called her and I
was like, hey, so good news, bad news, And I
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basically said I have to do this. Yeah, and you
know it's really special and so yeah, I think I
could speak for everybody that we all felt that thing
when we were shooting it, like this is something special.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I mean, such a cool cast. And obviously Sarah is
a kid at the time, and you know, you got
obviously Baiton and Arnett and all go through it. It's
every story you hear, and I know that Bateman obviously
has the SmartLess podcast where we talk about it off
and with our nett It's like, it seems like it
was just a really fun time and you guys had
a blast, And isn't that the best working environment you
could possibly imagine?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Just a fun experience working.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And I'm at the place I'm and I even before
I was at the place, I guess I just always
had the attitude. I do not want to work on
anything that's not fun, you know, unless it's going to
pay a crazy amount of money. But my whole life
is too short. I just want to have fun. I
want to be able to play around and be in
a set that is there's laughter and joy, and that
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SAT always had, you know, there was a lot of laps,
a lot of laps on that, and it was a
really fun privilege that a lot of actors don't get
to have, you.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Know, And look at that show. And again, now you've
got mister Show and you've got a rest development. You're
stacking these huge hit shows that everyone loves, cult favorite
one of them, the other one is a massive mainstream favorite.
All this stuff, and yet you're still on the road
and you still do the stand up comedy and you're
on tour right now, and I'm sure the audience comes
for all of it and they come from all the corners.
But the life on the road, I mean, you've got
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your father like it is. It is a grind, and
yet you're still doing it. Do you have a passion
for it or is this one of those things where
you're like, it's just in my blood that I've got
to be.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
On the road.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
It's just what I do. I'm a stand up comedian.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
It's I mean, it's both. It's uh, it's I had
this revelation not too long ago that I was talking
to my wife about it, like I've realized, I'm I
do all these things. I do, I write, I act,
I produce a direct, I do stand up, but I've realized, like, oh,
(29:46):
I'm a I'm a stand up Those other things are
fun things to do. But I'm I think it. I
felt it when I had to cancel the last tour
that I was going to do because of COVID and
I had the set was already and I was looking
forward to going out and h and then had to
cancel it, and it and it hit me more more
(30:07):
than I expected it to. Was really disappointing, really, and
I miss it and I and I'm out on the
road now, and as you said, it's a grind, and
it kind of you know, I used to go out
and I have the whole family, or before I had
a daughter, just go out and have a tour bus
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and it was easy. And because my daughter's in school
and I want to be here as much as I can,
I basically am going out, you know, three or four days,
and then I'm home for three or four days and
I'm out for the weekends and you know, Thursday through
Sunday whatever. And it's it's hard because you just got
some ear either in a car for six hours my
(30:48):
next gig the next morning, or you're getting up and
you're in a small airport making a connector through Charlotte
to get to Omaha or whatever, and that part is
a grind. And you know, I do an hour and
a half and then I'm doing these meet and greets later,
so I'm white by the end. I drink a lot.
(31:08):
I can't not in an alcoholic way, I just in
a I can't stop drinking. So yeah, it's it is
a grind, but I love it. I love I love
this set I'm doing now. It's probably my favorite set
I've done in a long time. And what we've done
like forty two shows, I think, and we've got another
(31:30):
thirty five or so. I'm gonna take the summer off,
but then I'm back in September October and I'll go
to Europe for a little bit. And it's the thing
that if we lived in some weird world where they're like,
you can't do pick one thing, you had to pick
one thing, it would definitely be stand up.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Let me ask you, as a stand up for many
years without kids and without children, and would you ever
roll your eyes at like here's my parenting set or
here's my bit on kids youth sports.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And then now it's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
No, no, I totally get it, and like that is
where I'm going with this stuff because everyone can relate.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Oh, I mean I would only roll my eyes at
like an hour of that. I hate those those things,
like I would the idea of like an evening of
comedy about being a parent is that sounds awful? And
I have, you know, I have plenty of jokes or
bits or observations about having a kid that I well,
(32:32):
I have because I have a kid. But I mean
that's probably no more than thirty percent of my set.
And it's really about other things. It's not about simply
like my kid did this thing and no, no, no,
it's really about the things around it. You know.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
You grew up in Georgia. Yeah, football allegiances college and
pro would be what well.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Pros the Falcons. Of course I was going to. I
was gonna I know this isn't this is just audio,
but I was gonna wear my one off limited edition ABC.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Steve Barkowski, who were rolling with what do we got?
What are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Matt Ryan?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Yeah, I mean, I he was not the issue with
that team, and it's true he wasn't. And I really
I've gotten a lot of arguments. Yeah, it was a
big Steve Barkowski fan. You know, there hasn't been a
whole lot to be excited about as a Falcons fan,
but cautiously optimistic about the coming years, you know, yes,
(33:32):
Desmond does and you know, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
It's cool like the Falcons fandum is like you've had
this Super Bowl year in ninety nine where it's kind
of out of nowhere and it's a dirty bird and
all that. And then at twenty sixteen with Matt Ryan,
he goes and wins the MVP, and obviously the super
Bowl goes as it goes.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
We don't have to go down that road.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It's funny you say, Matt Ryan he just retired or
he's taking a job at CBS. He might come back,
He's gonna be an announcer. And we had a debate
on our morning show on NFL Network. Is Matt Ryan underappreciated?
And my case is he's been wildly underappreciate because the
first thing out of everyone's mouth is twenty eight to three,
how he lost Super Bowl, not the fact he was
an MVP and a starting quarterback in the league for
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fifteen straight years. One of the hardest things to do
is durability.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
He didn't lose the Super Bowl, the choice to pass
three times Super Bowl, the head coaching lost defense. I mean,
it's a team sport, but would I would totally blame
the coaching on that. I mean, that was crazy. We
all sat there going, what the Yeah, that's not Matt
(34:40):
Ryan's fault. And the only knock I can give Matt
Ryan is he's you know, not very mobile, right and shut,
and in this in the certainly the latter half of
his career that there was a shift to that kind
of quarterback and offense, and it was like he straddled
(35:01):
two generations in a way. But again, like I said,
he was not the problem or certainly not the sole
problem of that team, and getting rid of him for
Marcus Mariota is like, Okay, what did you why? What
what are you doing? And you didn't get anything? Yeah,
I mean he's he's underappreciated certainly in that context.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
You know, Yeah, did you have college football? I know
it's a huge college football time. You were what Roswell
Georgia is where you from?
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yeah? I mean I didn't. I wanted to go to
Uga and all my friends went to Uga after high school,
but I wasn't accepted there. It actually became the premise
of a mister show bit. That's a real thing. The guy,
this guy Moe Phelps, who's dead, but he was a
dean of admissions, and this whole thing became a mister
(35:51):
show bit where we quote him for real what he
told me about going to Uga, and because I drove
up there to have it, what did he say? He
asked me what. Uh. And this is after you know,
they won the Sugar Bowl. There was a championship with
herschel Walker and everything. And he's like, you know what
did what do you want to major in? And I
(36:12):
said acting? And he said acting. He's just all southern
just you know, the old Selden, good old boy a
ball and short sleeve Polly Astra shirt. You know when
he goes, uh, what's acting? But just jumping up and
down on stage and yelling and screaming a lot. And
(36:33):
you know what, I and I just drove up there,
you know, and just before Athens was all kindect accessibly
he had to go through these small towns everything get
there and paying the ass and and I just I
was like, I don't I don't know what to say
(36:54):
to that. There's no I mean, I could say a
logical response, but it's what kind of conversation would go.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I was like, okay, did you start list actors like
there's this guy, Marlon Brando, you know, like these are great.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
It was clear that this was kind of a feudal thing,
and I know, I just sort of we had another
probably five minutes of talking. Thank you very much. Please
consider my application, and then I left. I was like, well,
they're not gonna me. I ended up taking a year
(37:34):
off and then going to school in Boston, which was
just as well.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah, it worked out a couple more things and one
of the deals. It's not like a fun topic, but
for our listeners who follow the NFL, like the writer's
strike is going on right now, I saw you were
out there on the front lines, just top line.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
If you were someone to say, hey, give me the.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Main points of this, of where the writers are coming from,
and I know you've been obviously you're not the voice
of the Writers Union by any chance, of the Writers Guild,
but just so that we know if the viewers are like,
where the hell are my favorite shows in the fall?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
What you guys are fighting for?
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah, I mean, very simply put, just fairness, a fair
A lot of this is not about hey, I want
you know, one hundred dollars an hour. It's really it's
much like the last strike in two thousand and eight.
It's about new technology and new things that have come
up since the last negotiation that nobody had planned for
(38:29):
the last time, it was about DVDs, like our writer
is going to be compensated since all their work is
coming out on DVD, you know, akin to actors residuals,
you know. And this time a big part of it
is about AI and making sure that writers aren't replaced
by robots. And it's just about fairness, not necessarily right now,
(38:57):
but before what we are looking for in the future,
which has always been it's one hundred percent of the time.
You have to anticipate what is going to happen it's
ten years from now, and be prepared for it and
be compensated and just fair. It's just I can't make
it any more simple than saying it's about fairness. It's
(39:19):
about paying. Without writers, there's no show, all right. And
I don't care how many computers you get, you're not
going to write, you know, Succession and that's all and
Arrested Development and Severance and all these you know, Breaking
Bad and Sopranos and all these shows aren't going to
(39:40):
be written by computers, you know. And and you don't
have those things without the writer, and the writers, like
the has always been like the least kind of celebrated
but arguably the most important part. Nothing exists without the
concept and the idea and the story and the dialogue
and all that, and you know, we've never been compensated correctly,
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and this strike is just about getting to the bare
minimum of fairness. And these studios and the streamers and
the producers have literally hundreds of billions of dollars and
they're not willing to. It's the it's the age old
problem and and so really it's it's about the future.
(40:29):
It's not about right now. It's not about we want,
you know, mansion and it's not about that. It's about
protecting ourselves for what is going to happen to four, six,
eight years from now.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
It's chilling because you say the AI thing, and I
think a lot of people who aren't in the room
are there, like Robot, they're not going to And the
response from the studios, apparently whatever their union is, was
we'll revisit it once a year. And you're like, whoa,
that's not a you know, And that's a chilling response.
That's scary. The other part is I listen to a
different podcast in Danny McBride on it yesterday and he said,
(41:08):
just out of curiosity, he was like, chat GPT make
a righteous gemstone script and he's like, and it sucked
He's like, it sucked, and it really sucked.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
And just so you know, the equality will not be
what you want it to be.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
It's not not even going to be close. Come on,
it's not. It's it and you know it's so yes,
it's about protecting ourselves from that because the studio. I mean, look,
this is a free market, capitalistic society. They're going to
throw stuff out there. It's why we have so much
reality TV is because of the two thousand and eight strike,
and it's way cheaper to produce, and you wouldn't have,
(41:44):
you know, nineteen versions of vandr.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Pump Love Island or vander Housewives.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
I mean that may be satisfying and entertaining for some people,
but other people want a story, you know, and as
I said, chat Ai is not going to do it.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
You and your wife are both actors. You guys are
so the thick of it. Like, do you guys still
find time to watch other shows? Like yeah, is there
in your Like you're like Successions tonight, Like we're watching.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Yes, we we are. My wife has to catch up
from last week's we'll watch tonight. We'll watch the last two.
But Succession, for sure, I just did season four of
the Umbrella Academy Cool, which I had I was familiar
with as like a cultural thing, but I didn't. I'd
(42:35):
never seen it. I knew people loved it. I knew
that it was popular, you know, And so I started
watching it, and like both my wife and I became
hooked and we're all caught up now. And then I
got my sister hooked on it, my mom, who's eighty five.
So we binge watched that. We watched, we watched Succession, Severance,
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waiting patiently for that.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Patient that if that's your boys still are, tell him like, bro,
like at.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Some point like like, let's.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Got all the writers strike affected them too, you know,
but they're all pro, right, all these you know, almost
everybody is pro on the writer's side.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
And oh and Top Chef, big Top Chef fan, really
big Top Chef fan. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I love it all right, my last one. You've been
asked about it before. I heard you with Mark Maron
years ago, and I like loved the competition on it,
and I've tell you I have Disney Plus it was
height of the pandemic. You're looking for something, bro, you
might not want to talk on it. I love the
Chipmunks movies, dude, and you're great in them and you
were clever and you're fun.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
And I don't know if you run away from that
talk or not.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
No, no, I have no. I mean it was.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
I'm you're great in them. You understand that, right, Like
you're great.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
I when I get hired for something, I will talk
to the director, producer, whatever, and I assume I bring
it up, like you guys are hiring me in part
because I I play around and I be right and
I offer things up and I improvise and I assume
that's what you want. And they were no different, and
(44:13):
it was It wasn't a bad experience. It was just
sort of an interesting thing. And everybody I worked with
on the first two films were great. And then the
third film was I don't know why. I mean, i'll
write about it.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Tell me everything.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I don't know this, so tell me.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
I just know.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
Honestly, I know the first one, and I know the
squeakl those are my chance.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Schipwrecked was chip wrecked.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
I never saw chipwreck.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
That don't don't. It would be weird if you did,
now that your your kids are grown or whatever. Like
I'm just ha hanging out. Honey, I'm just gonna watch
chipp tonight.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
So what was the promise plot and tell me take
us through Chipwreck?
Speaker 4 (44:57):
It was, uh, my character. Well, first of all, I
know that they're was this really blatant gross product placement
thing with Carnival Cruise line. It takes place, the whole
thing for most most of it takes place on a
(45:19):
carnival cruise in which the people that were on the
actual people that were on the carnival cruise did not
know that we were going to be shutting down big
sections of the cruise.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Oh you guys, did it rent out the cruise ship?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
You did it while the actual cruise.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Was going on?
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Oh yeah, yeah. And then I had this slide show
that I made. I used to do this and it
was called It's Just Fantasy Versus Reality, So you would
see I had tons of pictures of the extras and
set the people who were acting, you know, like they
took over like the water slide and the pool, the strengths,
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and there are these hot like twenty something early thirties kids,
and then you just pan over to the real and
it was just oh boy, it was like the worst
of the worst of Florida and it was I it
was really it was.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Pretty How long was the shoot?
Speaker 4 (46:21):
I think we were on the boat for ten days.
I think we were shooting for like seven of those days,
and then there were we were stuck on there and
there was no That was another thing. They one of
the first things you get in your room, which is tiny.
I don't know if you've been on a cruise.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I've never been on a cruise.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
But there's the first thing. He is this little we
we got these little packages from production. There's no internet
on the boat. And if you shift to short calls,
if you need to make calls, like ninety dollars, so
you know you're you're kind of on this boat, which
from from the outside you're like, this is huge, just
(47:02):
as massive, but only half of that you're looking at
is accessible, like the rest of it is the inner
workings of the ocean liner and the and all that stuff.
So it's it's way more cramped than you would might imagine.
There's no and if you're a guy like me who
(47:23):
is one of those like, hey are you famous? Like
I get that a lot when I'm out. You know,
people don't know who I am.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
So and then they recognize you, but they just what
do I know you from?
Speaker 4 (47:34):
One of those and then they just want to know,
like how do I know you from? And I'm like
I don't know, no, no tell me. And so it
was ten days of that where it's like I just
I just would like to get something to eat. I
want run through my IMDb page.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Oh I loved you in the ten Yes, let's talk
about it. Let's go, Yes, you wish it was that,
you wish it was that? Oh my gosh, all right,
and then the movie wraps and you're like, I'm done
with this or you did have another one after that?
Speaker 4 (48:06):
No, I was contractually obligated to do three, so I did.
That was my last one. That was. But they also
treated me very poorly. I don't know why. From the
very beginning, it was very strange. I was in London
to do the second series of Todd Margaret and Great
Decisions Tod Margaret. I don't want to bore everybody with this.
It's just we don't have to, you know, And I'm
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producing the show. I'm not just you're the guy.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
You're the producer or the actor everything.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
The only reason I say that is to say that
I was responsible for about sixty jobs, you know, And
we have been asking for at least a year whether
I was going to be a part of the third thing,
because again I'm contractually obligated to do three. And they
kept saying no, I don't know, and they weren't very
(48:53):
helpful or forthcoming. And then I will never forget this
as long as I live. I was it was like Christmas,
and we're going to start shooting at about I want
to say four weeks, maybe three weeks, three or four weeks.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Scripts are done, actors are hired, we're.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
In pre production. We're already, Oh we.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Have You're in London, You're like, I've.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
Been there for months, and we're We've got sets being
built and people are hired, and again, you know, responsible
for roughly sixty jobs, and you know, and a lot
of these are friends of mine. Now we've we've been
doing the show. We did the pilot, and we did
the first series and now we're getting ready to do
the second. And I was at Herod's with my wife,
(49:40):
and which is kind of one of our little Christmas
traditions when we're in London, you go to the food
hall whatever. We're there, my phone rings and it says
like the team or uta team or whatever, and oh
and I just had a bad feeling immediately, you knew.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Like the agents are calling on Christmas?
Speaker 1 (49:59):
What is going on?
Speaker 4 (50:00):
And I answered the phone and it's and it's David.
I have She runs through my lawyer, my agent, and
my So that's only good or bad news, and it's
never anything in between.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
When you're either in a Marvel movie or something's happening.
Speaker 4 (50:17):
It's either really good news or really bad news. And
then my manager says, where are you? I explain. He goes, okay,
can you get somewhere, can you sit down somewhere? I know,
I know what it is. I know what you do.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
It's been looming in the back of your mind, like
it's a chance. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
And it's a long, boring story, Peter, but it's it's
it was awful and they were so unpleasant, so weird.
And then I get the script. Of course, Oh the
other thing. I will just say this, so not only
is the movie going, they want me to be in
Hawaii for rehearsals on January third, and I'm like, you know,
(51:01):
and my wife's not going on this trip right to
visit friends in Southern aw who were in the Peace
Southern in the Peace Cort. Yeah, so we're gonna yeah,
and and I'm like, I can't. I don't even get back.
I would have to go I can't even go get
to Hawaii from London and I have no clothes. I
(51:22):
would have to go to New York and stop in
and get proper clothing. And I'm also like, rehearsal, are you.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
The animatronic?
Speaker 4 (51:35):
And then it became clear pretty quickly they're just trying
to screw, trying to screw. Yeah, And there was this
whole thing with the trailer, like everybody had a nice trailer,
like a regular trailer, and I had this moldy, beat
up like hard thing.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
That was on the on the ship or in Hawaii.
Speaker 4 (51:52):
No, in Hawaii for the rehearsals for and the guys
saying like that's all. You know, there's a lot of
production Hawaii, that's all. And it's just clear there with
me and I've.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Ah was Jason Lee Was he in that one too?
Or did he drop out or not?
Speaker 1 (52:04):
He was?
Speaker 4 (52:05):
He was still Dave And you know, we had a
bunch of scenes together and yeah, and look I did
I was professional and I did what I do and
I tried to make it as good as possible. I
tried to add things and I don't know, I don't
know what. I'm not sure what their issue was. They
never were very forthcoming about it. I have no idea.
(52:28):
But then they withheld a bonus from me.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Stop now we're getting to it now, I'm angry.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
Yeah, they withhold the bonus that it was supposed to
get because contractually there was some language in there where
I did something where I quote unquote disparaged the movie.
And yeah, they're they're just there. It was strange. It
was very odd and it's the only only experience I've
had like that. I've never ever.
Speaker 5 (52:55):
Yeah, you've been in a million things, You've never yeah,
like beloved, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Real quick, before we wrap, what do you got going
on now besides the tour?
Speaker 2 (53:04):
What else is shaken?
Speaker 1 (53:05):
And is there where else can we find you?
Speaker 4 (53:07):
I mean, as I said, the tour is going to
be Uh, that's that's taken up most of my time.
And if you want to see the upcoming dates again,
we're going through October, but it just go to official
David Cross dot com. That'll have all the dates coming up.
A couple of places we're hitting again because they sold
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out really quickly. Good and the set has kind of
evolved since I was there, So like, I'm in Denver
a week from today, and the.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Day after Memorial Day, you'll be in Denver.
Speaker 4 (53:39):
And that and that is the second time I'm in
Denver and we've been doing I'm going back to Chicago
and so you can take a look on there and
and also Europe as well.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Any movies.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
No, oh, yes, what what am I talking about. I
just went to the screening last night. I'm out of it.
I'm very tired.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
What's the film?
Speaker 4 (54:00):
You hurt my feelings? And it's really good. It was.
That was the first time I had seen it, and
it was really fun to shoot. I enjoyed it a lot.
It was it was cool. And my wife and I
play a couple in therapies. And my real wife and
I Amber Tamblin play a couple that are in therapy,
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couple's therapy with this guy played by Tobias Menzies. We're
just we're you know, we're supporting cast. It's really Julie
Louis Dreyfuss and Tobias Menzies and it's a Nicole Hollup
Center film and it's it's really good. It's really good.
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Awesome. That's cool.
Speaker 4 (54:37):
And then I'm going to be on Umbrella Academy Season four.
Super great experience, really great set, really fun character to play,
and just what a treat and an honor to be
a part of that show and that experience that they
were great. And and then also I'll be in Justified Primeval,
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which I don't know when that will be coming out, Okay,
it's coming out shortly. And that's that's what I got
in the pipeline. Come out. And again I'll be touring.
I'm taking the summer off, but I'll be I'm on
the road until July and then I will be back
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out in September.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
Great, dude, you're awesome. I so appreciate you taking the time.
And know it's the first time we're meeting. It's always awkward, like, hey,
good to meet you. We're going live on a podcast
and an intimate thing about try But I appreciate you
so much for taking the time, and I hope you
enjoyed it too.
Speaker 4 (55:33):
I did. I did very much. And let's go watch
a Falcon Saints game together.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yes we will.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
We'll go watch Falcon Saints their new coach, Arthur Smith.
I don't know if if you're.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
A great dude, smart guy.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
And they drafted a running back eighth overalls guy Dejean Robinson,
who he might be the best running back to inner
the league since like Sakuon Barkley. So I feel very
good about the Falcons, but I always do in May.
So that's my feeling of confidence for you.
Speaker 4 (55:58):
I was with me all right, guys, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
Dear Cross is funny, Aaron. This is the goal of
the podcast. We're going to get you the Arthur Smith interview.
You're craving. We're gonna get you the you know, the
offensive line coach of the Saints someday. But I also
want to bring on guys that I love who have
entertained me for years. David Cross is hilarious In Arrested Development,
he was down playing it almost there, and yet I
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think that just scratches the surface. You hurt my feelings
movie was talking about, which he was like, yeah, Julia
Louis Dreyfus is the star. That's a major star that
opens May twenty sixth, Justified City Primeval airs July eighteenth,
and then he's on tour Tuesday, the day after Memorial Day.
He's in Denver, where he said he's been sold out.
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But Aaron David Cross cool as hell. Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 3 (56:45):
I also love as an actor from arrest Development. He's
a Falcons fan, and I think Falcons. This is I'm
pushing this wordplay a little too hard, but I think
Falcons might think their offense is in a state of
arrested development. And there we go. We tied it in perfectly.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Why I love you. I don't even know what the
state of arrested development would be, and yet it works. Guys,
Till next week, We've got more of these kind of
guests that are comedians, actors, entertainers. We're proactively seeking them out,
like this is the off season and I'm bringing on
guys and gals that I think are interesting.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
And I don't know if you're getting.
Speaker 5 (57:20):
That Chipmunks three chipwreck story anywhere else, but I'll take it.
Unbelievable behind the curtain, David Cross, nowhere else in podcasting
are you going to hear about Thursday night Flex scheduling
right into the Mister Show, Mister show. I was gonna
say chip Wreck, Yeah, Chipreck Carnival Cruise Lines. If you
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Speaker 1 (57:46):
Because my name is Peter Schrager. This is Aaron Wan Kauffman.
Our guest was David Cross, the incredible comedian and actor.
Jason English is here back in la We got Matt Schneider,
Jason Cleman, and Meredith Batton who they all run the
show and all the stuff that you're seeing on digital.
But gosh, couldn't be happier with today's episode. We got
more to come. Thanks for listening. The Season with Peter
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NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's up, everybody, This is
Peter Scheger. This is the Season with Peter Schrager. And
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it is the third Tuesday in May.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
When we're recording this.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
And I'll tell you, usually this is like the dark
dead time of the NFL offseason anything. But I'm joined
here by my producer, Aaron wang Kauffman. Aaron, the league
meeting is going on right now, and it is not
the one in March. It's the one in Man. Usually
the one in March is where all the big news
comes out. But yesterday there was a few news items
that I'm going to run through at the listeners, and
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I want to get your thoughts on one of them.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
First off, the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
In a few years then Mech's site is going to
be in San Francisco, Santa Clara. It's going to be
at Levi Stadium at Super Bowl sixties.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
That's news number two.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The Draft, which has been a great sensation for so
many of these host cities that aren't getting Super Bowls
in the near future. Next year's is in Detroit. That's
been decided already the following year has been announced that
it's going to be in green Bay.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Let me get your thoughts to someone who just got
back from Kansas City for the draft green Bay. Let's see,
three hundred thousand people came to Kansas City for the draft.
There are one hundred thousand residents of Green Bay. There
are not a ton of hotel options, and yet it
is a football mecha. Your reaction to green Bay as
the choice for the NFL for the draft.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Well, someone who went to school in Minnesota and loves
the Midwest, I am all for like these smaller Midwest
cities getting timed to charm people. So I'm all about it.
I think it'll be It'll be a lot of people
in a smaller city.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Though I've been to Green Bay several times for Packers' games.
You drive up and similar to Buffalo, maybe even more,
it's a town. It is an intimate setting in that
there are people's homes.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Just a stone's throw from lambeau Field.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
There's not a ton of you know, modern hotels where
they're not there's no four seasons in green Bay, and
there's no slew of chains.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I'm curious how they're going to do all that.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
But I also know Peter O'Reilly, who runs the events
for the NFL, uh has so many ideas and the
league would not put their full strength behind something if
they thought it was gonna be a logistical nightmare.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
They will figure it out, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
The controversial news that came out late Monday night, and
at this point in you know, the NFL news cycle,
there's few things that are controversial or that are that
are you know, even debated amongst the owners when it
comes to like let's take a vote for it, and
it comes of all things Thursday night Flex scheduling. All right,
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here's what it is. In short, Amazon had this great
first year. They put a great effort in. They pay
a ton of money, and Amazon was not assured and
late games of the season that are gonna be you know,
total hits. You look at the schedule right now. Weeks
thirteen to seventeen are all good matchups. They include New
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England and Pittsburgh. They include you know, a Jets Browns game,
They include big teams, and yet there was no assurance
that these games are gonna matter late for them paying
that money and for the quality of the product on television,
for the viewers at home. The discussion began really during
the season and kind of bubbled up in March where
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they tabled it should Amazon and the league have the
right to get flex scheduling rules like we see on
Sunday Night Football and Monday Night Football for those Thursday
night matchups, and they needed twenty four votes.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
They didn't have those twenty four votes. It was tabled
until May.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Back in March and John Marra, the owner of the Giants,
came out staunchly against it, on his premise being it's
for the you know, the fans who pay money to
go see a game on a Sunday. You buy four tickets, times,
get a hotel if it's out of town. You invest
your entire Sunday plan based on a schedule release that
happened last week, and then you find out that wait
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a second, that game's not on a Sunday and it's
not being flexed to the night time, which although an inconvenience,
you can adjust. Maybe you have to buy a new
flight the next one. Whatever it is. No, this game
is going to be seventy two hours earlier. It's going
to actually be on Thursday night. Now.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Marrow was very outspoken about it.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I saw Mark Davis was outspoken about it against it. Quietly,
there were a lot of people who were for it, saying, hey,
this is good for the product of the game. The
NBA doesn't have a set scheduled time until a day out.
People seem to make a work college football. You know
who you're playing and where, you don't know when the
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time of those games are, and we're a couple of
months from the start of the season.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's been some of the arguments.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
The argument that really struck me, though, was what Jerry
Jones said in a public comment and said that only
seven percent of the NFL's fans are ever going to
step into an NFL stadium, and that ninety three percent
of NFL fans are watching at home. So whether we
want to dismiss the fan that pays for the season
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tickets all that, and the owners would swear up and down,
and the league would swear up and down, and I
agree they don't want to inconvenience anyone. The best product
possible on that TV, and the best game possible might
benefit the fans more from a greater, greater whole.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm not making that argument.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I thought it was really interesting that, you know, one
of the key votes was Denver and that's the Penner family,
and Craig Penner, the new owner of the Broncos, was
kind of wavering and where are we going to go
with this thing? And at the end of the day,
it's the Walmart family that votes yes to assure the
Amazon family gets this incredible Thursday night deal. Now here's
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part of the stuff that made sure it happened a
and this is big. Twenty eight days in advance. The
teams are gonna be notified. So this isn't Sunday Night
Football where ten days out you're like, you're gonna be
playing a night game and figure it out twenty eight days.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I would think the schedule.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Makers are gonna be really really you know, conservative and
saying that game is irrelevant four weeks out, especially with
all those different games and I don't have them up now,
but they're all good games on paper in May. You know,
I don't think that's gonna be something where they're gonna
be rushing to make a change. Second part of it
from what I hear, and these are come from sources
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and you can aggregate this and do whatever you want,
Like the Sunday night requirements are gonna be one thing.
The Monday night requirements to flex a game from Sunday
to Monday are gonna be a little harder. And I'm
told that the Sunday flex to Thursday, these two teams
better be basically winless or have five wins, or it
just must be a complete, complete bomb of a game.
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And one of the games people are circling are that
is a Rams Saints game and it's in LA and
it's Rylands comes to the Rams. They're like, well, that
there's a chance both those teams think next year and
there's a chance that games flex out.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But mind this worth noting that's Christmas weekend. Are you
really gonna.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Be so occupied you got to flex out of a
Christmas weekend Thursday night game and change all these fans.
Is the NFL gonna say, yeah, I know, Saints fans,
you bought this ticket for Thursday, but actually that game's
on a Sunday in LA.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You gotta figure it out. Sorry, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And the other part of it is the Chargers have
a Saturday night game that weekend, I believe against the
Buffalo Bills that's already being played Are you really gonna
flex a game out from Thursday night and say the
Chargers are gonna play on Saturday night and the Rams
are gonna play on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Highly unlikely. So the thresholds and.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
The barriers are different, and they're stacked differently for Sunday
night flex from a Sunday game, from a Sunday flex
to a Monday game, from a Sunday game to a
Thursday night game. I'll be honest, we're here in May.
If there's more than one, I'd be shocked. Aaron your
thoughts on the Thursday night deal, and we didn't even
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get into the player safety and some of the real
concerns there.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at the games right now.
So just going from week thirteen on, we have Seahawks
at Cowboys. That should be a great game.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
They're not flexing the Cowboys. Sorry, I'm drinking my coffee.
They're not ever flexing the Cowboys. Amazon is not like,
oh yeah, take the Cowboys away, go on.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Like you said.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Week fourteen is Pats at Steelers. There's I could see
that being a really exciting game, especially.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Steelers national brand Belichick face of the league. They're never
gonna well, I shouldn't say never, doubtful.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Go on week fifteen, Chargers at Raiders. That seems like
two teams that will be somewhat relevant and be competing for,
you know, seating.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Justin Herbert and the Chargers six different primetime games. The
NFL is banking on that team being a big game.
And you know, again, Amazon, they say, we don't want
Justin Arbor given us someone else.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
No, I don't see it.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Sixteen is that Saints at Rams game you were talking about,
and then seventeen is Jets Browns and that's another game
that could have huge playoff implications. So I mean, I
think it's good in the sense that, hey, if Aaron Rodgers,
god forbid, gets hurt and has to miss the entire season,
yeah maybe then things will be different. But I'm not
looking at any of these Thursday night football games like
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I don't want to watch that. So these all look good.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I don't think it's it's as big of a deal
as as you know, the media is making it out
to be right now, and the same people and this
is my here's my you know, my moment. I know
I work for this shield, but the same people who
moan about the you know, this.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Game sucks, Why is this? Why is this on? Why
am I watching this?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
You know, are going to be the same people that say,
well that you can't do flex, so just take it
for what it's worth and let's see. Let's see it
for a year, and it's only a one year deal,
and it might be a colossal disaster and they might
flex out one of these games and then one of
the teams wasn't prepared and they're knocked out of the
playoffs because of injuries and whoever knows in twenty eight
days in advance, and they were playing Thursday and Sunday,
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and it was just too much quick of a turnaround
from Sunday to Thursday. I get it. All that stuff. Really,
that's why eight teams voted against it, and that's why
everyone's up in arms. But I would say, let's give
it a year and let's see and realize that, you know,
the media partners, they pay a lot of money, and
it sounds like, you know, for the better of the
entertainment product on the on the couch as opposed to
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the fans in the stadium that tipped the scales real quick.
Before we get to our guest, which is a different
kind of guest for us, and I'm curious see how
it goes. I wanted to talk real quick about the
biggest sensation right now in football stadiums around the country,
and I'm not talking about OTAs and I'm not talking
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about this Taylor Swift thing is legit, man, Like I
said before, we got on air, and we've got our
friend Jason English from iHeart here as well and Aaron.
I have never never, in all my years working for
the NFL gotten so many texts from friends in the
industry outside the industry. Got one from a guy who
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you know, knows me sort of way, not close enough
to even ask this. Hey, bro, I know you're tight
with the Jets. I know you're tight with the Giants. Bro,
I know you work for the NFL. I'm sure there's
a sweet I'm sure is there any way to get
tickets to these Taylor Swift concerts?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I did not see this coming.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I did maybe I am just it's a gap in
my pop culture knowledge. I had no idea Taylor Swift
is as huge as she is. To the fact that
I'm not talking one friend, two friends, I'm talking best
friends who know who do want to ask me for
Super Bowl tickets.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
They don't ask me for Giants.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Raiders in the middle of September where they would love
to take their son because it's just too big of
an asks weird. The text always started this, I know
it's a long shot and I feel awful asking, but
do you have any The answer is I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I have made calls.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I called Robert Sala, I called Joe Shane, I called
the PR guy from the Jets, Eric Gelfind. I've called
several people just to see, Hey, everyone's willing to pay
face value, probably more. And the answer is a hearty
laugh from all them. There is nothing we can do.
And it's not because they don't hook ups. The tickets
today they're all spoken for, Aaron, did you have any idea?
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Taylor Swift is the sensation that she is And there's
been trends pieces about the dads wearing all this stuff
and it's it's become a whole thing. Every weekend at
a different football stadium. Met life is Memorial Day weekend
and I am zero for twenty with friends asking me
for tickets. What do you say?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, I mean, she's beyond huge, like no one else
I think really at this point could have a tour
like that. I have friends who went through the whole
ticket pre sale fiasco where they were trying to sign
up and use credit card. You sign up for a
credit card to get early access and didn't get the
ticket still and now have this credit card. And I
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personally am not like a huge Taylor Swift fan, like.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Are you apathetic or like not a fan like to
the point where I know all her songs, like I
just wouldn't buy a ticket, or are you like I
don't know if you want to upset?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Like there's the Beehive with Beyonce, like are we doing this?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
So I personally like, I'm shooter.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I just can't go.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
She has some really great pop songs. I think I
don't like her lyrics generally, Like she has a song
where she rhymes cardigan and car again, and I think
that's lazy. She has incredible pop songs. She's worked with
some incredible artists, and there are songs of hers that
I love, but I'm not like, oh, every single song
I love, love Love, So yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I think I was starting off because I imagine, you know, okay,
Beyonce's on tour.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Everyone goes and sees it.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I would think, like Lady gagas on to where everyone
goes and sees it, and then you got like your
old heads, like Bruce is at the you know we're
going and everyone's going to see Springsteen or even Dave
Matthews too. I guess that's really dating me, Dave Matthews.
But I've never in my life seen something like this
Taylor Swift thing. So Taylor, if you're listening to the
season with Peter Schrager, you're welcome to be a guest.
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Aaron will call him sick that day, we'll fill in
for a different producer. I appreciate your music. I think
you're pretty good. I dig it, I think you're fine.
I like it. So I won't be going to the concert,
and nowhere will any of my friends who asked for
tickets because I couldn't hook him up.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And I feel kind of bad about that.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Aaron our guest. I'm super excited. One of my favorite comedians,
one of my favorite actors in the mini shows and
movies he's been in. But I don't know him. I
don't know if he likes football. I don't know if
he knows who I am, and that makes for really
good spontaneous podcasting. Actor comedian David Cross is up next.
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All right, As I mentioned the monologue, huge fan of
this guy, have long been just an admirer from afar.
And when Aaron and Jason we got to the off
season of the NFL season and said, let's have a
lot more guests who aren't necessarily NFL coaches or players
general managers. Who do you want? And I said, I
want X y Z And one of the names was
David Cross, who I have just I just I'm a
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huge fan of And sure enough I was blown away.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
We got an.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Email response back saying, yeah, David Cross is willing to
join you guys, actor comedian, a long time guy who's
been entertaining you for years. David Cross, Welcome to the
Peter Schrager The Season with Peter Schrager podcast.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Thank you. Yeah, usually it's an actor comedian bon vivant.
So if you want to add that, maybe go back.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
And you know, I think that's what I ultimately want
to do with my life. Yeah, Like I want to
be able to say bomb and what are the end
to just launch see a show at night, just go
to a gallery, like, what do you what is the
life of a bon vivant?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
You think you know, it's a lot of air ballooning,
and it's a lot of charity work for animals with
only three legs. And you know, I'm I'm really deeply
ensconced in the fashion industry. I do just cuffs. I
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do a lot of different cuffs, and I only do cuffs,
and it's just all kinds. It's it's crazy, it's all
over the place. But you know, it's a it's a
tough but enriching lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's good. Look, your career goes through obviously arrested development
and and your stand up career. But I started with
Mister Show, and that's where I think, you know, I started.
Night Live is always there. But then when Mister Show
came with you and Bob oden Kirk, it totally broke
the mold. And I think anyone who's a fan of
comedy and comedians today, especially in the sketch world, will
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point to that as you know, such a groundbreaker. Do
you still get that, I mean, do you do you
get that being stopped for you? Like, do people still
stop you mister Show? Or now we're so many years
remove where they you don't get that as much.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
You know, sure, Like I mean, it's you know, it's
all over the place. Some people have no idea about
mister Show, don't know, don't even know it existed, but
they know me from these other things. And other people
know mister Show but don't know the other things. So
it all depends. But I still definitely get a lot,
and I'm on tour currently and so meet a lot
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of people who are bringing in kind of mister Show. Yeah,
minusha that or what a femura I guess is the
right word. Things that I've forgotten all about, Like Okay,
can you sign this, you know, weird hockey stick model
thing I made? It's from the whatever sketch and like,
I don't remember, I'll sign it, bring it over.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Uh, you know. I listened to Odin Kirk had his
his memoir that came out last year.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Listened to the audiobook and I loved it.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And he takes us through the origin of that show
and this like HBO and then taking a risk on
you guys, Can you take us through it from your
your lens? Like here, you guys are obviously established sketch guys,
and you've got different paths, but to come together and
be given that kind of platform on HBO at that age,
what was it like?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Well, I mean it was amazing and life altering. And
I was not nearly as established as Bob was. I.
Bob was on SNL briefly and then he was a
big part of The Ben Stiller Show as an actor
and a writer. But I was just a writer and
I was brought on midway through and Bob and I
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started working together just doing shows in La just you know,
with our friends, for our friends. With no we didn't
have an eye towards the future. Bob did eventually more
than I did. I was still like, well, let's get
drunk and have fun, and Bob's it was more focused.
And then we were doing these shows and they were clear,
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very very successful immediately, like people in the audience really
liked them, and it started to become a thing where
it was it felt like an event, like you wanted
to go to these shows when we put them on.
And then Bob, through his manager Bernie Berlstein, we started
bringing you know, and also there was a little bit
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of buzz so ABC is there and HBO's coming and.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Set the stage first, Is it like one of these
like small clubs, like I know that Luna Lounge is
like a big thing that everyone talks about, Like, is
it like one of those like small cafes. You guys
are doing a little underground and then all of a sudden,
why is Lorne Michael's in the crowd?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Like that kind of dude?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
It was even better than that. It was. It was
this place on Sunset right off of Librea called the
Diamond Club, and it was it was this cheesy, like
super cheesy Hollywood club where you know, it's like half
(20:06):
as people or people who had just moved to La
who were way too much makeup and clone and stuff,
and then half like Russian and Eastern European and Armenian
dudes and like we you know, just that kind of crowd.
And then so there's this club right it's like at
disco dance club and in the back, like if you
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walk through this thing while everybody's dancing whatever, there's a
side room and it probably had a little stage, and
I think it held I'm going to guess at the
most it held maybe one hundred and twenty people at tops.
And that's where we start doing these shows. There's a
guy named Dave Wrath who was Now he's a huge,
(20:51):
big time manager, but he was a huge fan of
comedy and very helpful and manager at the time for
all kinds of like people that are very famous now
that and most of the people in that scene. And we,
as I said, we were just doing shows with each
other for each other and we would all have a
different night and you know, we were a very tight
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group and you know, it had there was everybody from
and a lot of musicians too, so like Maynard Keenan
and Jack Black would be hanging out and we all
used played with each other, you know, and and so
that's it was just a weird because you had to
go through that other.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, the Eastern European Nightclub a.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Little room in the back and it was it was
really it was really funny, but it was cool, you know,
and it was like a cheap We got a space
and we just did these shows and.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You put these shows on. And we've had Paul Rudd
on this podcast and I've gotten to know him just
living in the neighborhood and he talks like with great
lore about those years in la and like going into
being told Hey, TENACIOUSD are performing at this place at
this time, and like just the entire everyone who is
anyone would be there and it was like going to
that was kind of the the buzz around mister show
(22:09):
as well. And then HBO says, we're going to give
you guys a progress and what was that like, We're
going to go and do this on the Home Box
Office after you know, whatever show was on before you.
I don't know if Sex and the City or Dream
On whatever else was on at the time, but you know.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
What, I think it was dream On Ben Be. It was.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah, there wasn't a whole lot back then, and we
were part of their you know, the comedy block with
Chris Rock and there's some other stuff. And they said
to us, they were very specific about we don't want TV,
we don't want regular stuff that's going to be we
don't want SNL and we were not interested in that
(22:49):
kind of thing at all, and uh, and they encouraged
us to, you know, do what you want to do.
And we in four years, we only got one note
that we had to take kind of a standards and
practices note. That was it. And uh, they were very
I mean, there's a complete lead new regime there now.
But the people that we were working with that ushered
(23:10):
us in were really helpful, really amenable. And again, I
mean it was a cheap show to make. I mean
we barely got anything, and we made it look better
than it actually should have looked for the budget we had.
And you know, we were what Friday at twelve thirty
(23:30):
in the morning or something like that, so it wasn't
we didn't have to do much to attain success for
that kind of slot at that time with that budget,
and you know we were critically successful and that's kind
of all they wanted. So it was a good deal.
And yeah, it was great.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You know, the aresa development gig.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
The story that is like urban legend or maybe true
you can confirm it is that you were dating a
young woman and you got this audition out in LA
and he said, I'll go for one day, but this
girl's in New York. I'm not going to be moving
my life out to LA. I'll try out for arrested development.
I'll just do it, see where it goes. You get
the job, and the rest is history. Tell us, really
the story and what really went down and when you
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walked into is that is that a.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Good or it was? So the context to it was
I had been in LA for nine and a half years.
I moved there from Boston. And my joke, which was
based in truth, was like I moved to LA to
make enough money to move away from LA, you know,
which is I eventually after being there for nine and
(24:37):
a half years, and I had a bit of a
pause in work and I realized because I'd been saying
for years, like I want to get out of here.
I want to go to New York. And I had
this break where I had nothing coming up, and I
was like, I don't leave right now. I'm going to
wait here another month and then another job will come
and I'll be here for another two years. So I
(24:58):
took this opportunity and moved to And I didn't have
a lot of possessions. I still don't, I never did,
but I moved, put all this stuff in a one
of those little U haul things, moved to New York,
had a great time uh York and UH and doing
stand up and stuff. And then I met this woman
(25:19):
who we had a really good relationship and it eventually
lasted for like three and a half years. We're still friends.
And our kids play together. But you know, we were
in the in the midst of it, and I got
an offer for rested development and I didn't even look
at the script. I wasn't interested.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It was like, there's no way, no audition.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Nothing they offered you is like guy.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Initially they wanted me to look at job and I
and I read the script and I did not have
a handle on job at all. And once you see
will Arnett our net, it's and I did not have
a handle on it. But Tobias, who was meant to
be a you know, uh, part time I'm forgetting whatever
(26:07):
the phrase is, you know, but not a full time
cast guest star. Yeah, like a you know, six out
of eighteen episodes kind of thing, which already was appealing,
like oh, I'll just fly to LA We're not going
to one or two episodes out and go home. But
also beyond that, I just immediately knew who that character
was and and had a sense for it, and I
(26:30):
said can I And I was talking to Bitch for
Wits and the Russo brothers, the directors, and we were
talking on the phone because I said, I'm not I
don't you know, I'll do it if it's part time.
I just can't and they were like, yeah, that's great,
that's meant to be part time. And then I came
out to shoot the pilot, which was you know, you
(26:51):
always take longer to shoot the pilot, and I was
probably like a ten day shoot, and I realized around
the third day that it's really something special. This is
just from the pilot. And the cast was amazing, the
dialogue was great, the direct it was fun. They let
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us play around and improvise. And I called my girlfriend
from the little bridge thing that's in the Beverly what's
across from the Beverly Center, the Beverly Connection, right across
the street is a smaller one. I was up on
this little bridge thing and I called her and I
was like, hey, so good news, bad news, And I
(27:36):
basically said I have to do this. Yeah, and you
know it's really special and so yeah, I think I
could speak for everybody that we all felt that thing
when we were shooting it, like this is something special.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I mean, such a cool cast. And obviously Sarah is
a kid at the time, and you know, you got
obviously Baiton and Arnett and all go through it. It's
every story you hear, and I know that Bateman obviously
has the SmartLess podcast where we talk about it off
and with our nett It's like, it seems like it
was just a really fun time and you guys had
a blast, And isn't that the best working environment you
could possibly imagine?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Just a fun experience working.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And I'm at the place I'm and I even before
I was at the place, I guess I just always
had the attitude. I do not want to work on
anything that's not fun, you know, unless it's going to
pay a crazy amount of money. But my whole life
is too short. I just want to have fun. I
want to be able to play around and be in
a set that is there's laughter and joy, and that
(28:39):
SAT always had, you know, there was a lot of laps,
a lot of laps on that, and it was a
really fun privilege that a lot of actors don't get
to have, you.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Know, And look at that show. And again, now you've
got mister Show and you've got a rest development. You're
stacking these huge hit shows that everyone loves, cult favorite
one of them, the other one is a massive mainstream favorite.
All this stuff, and yet you're still on the road
and you still do the stand up comedy and you're
on tour right now, and I'm sure the audience comes
for all of it and they come from all the corners.
But the life on the road, I mean, you've got
(29:12):
your father like it is. It is a grind, and
yet you're still doing it. Do you have a passion
for it or is this one of those things where
you're like, it's just in my blood that I've got
to be.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
On the road.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
It's just what I do. I'm a stand up comedian.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
It's I mean, it's both. It's uh, it's I had
this revelation not too long ago that I was talking
to my wife about it, like I've realized, I'm I
do all these things. I do, I write, I act,
I produce a direct, I do stand up, but I've realized, like, oh,
(29:46):
I'm a I'm a stand up Those other things are
fun things to do. But I'm I think it. I
felt it when I had to cancel the last tour
that I was going to do because of COVID and
I had the set was already and I was looking
forward to going out and h and then had to
cancel it, and it and it hit me more more
(30:07):
than I expected it to. Was really disappointing, really, and
I miss it and I and I'm out on the
road now, and as you said, it's a grind, and
it kind of you know, I used to go out
and I have the whole family, or before I had
a daughter, just go out and have a tour bus
(30:27):
and it was easy. And because my daughter's in school
and I want to be here as much as I can,
I basically am going out, you know, three or four days,
and then I'm home for three or four days and
I'm out for the weekends and you know, Thursday through
Sunday whatever. And it's it's hard because you just got
some ear either in a car for six hours my
(30:48):
next gig the next morning, or you're getting up and
you're in a small airport making a connector through Charlotte
to get to Omaha or whatever, and that part is
a grind. And you know, I do an hour and
a half and then I'm doing these meet and greets later,
so I'm white by the end. I drink a lot.
(31:08):
I can't not in an alcoholic way, I just in
a I can't stop drinking. So yeah, it's it is
a grind, but I love it. I love I love
this set I'm doing now. It's probably my favorite set
I've done in a long time. And what we've done
like forty two shows, I think, and we've got another
(31:30):
thirty five or so. I'm gonna take the summer off,
but then I'm back in September October and I'll go
to Europe for a little bit. And it's the thing
that if we lived in some weird world where they're like,
you can't do pick one thing, you had to pick
one thing, it would definitely be stand up.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Let me ask you, as a stand up for many
years without kids and without children, and would you ever
roll your eyes at like here's my parenting set or
here's my bit on kids youth sports.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And then now it's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
No, no, I totally get it, and like that is
where I'm going with this stuff because everyone can relate.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Oh, I mean I would only roll my eyes at
like an hour of that. I hate those those things,
like I would the idea of like an evening of
comedy about being a parent is that sounds awful? And
I have, you know, I have plenty of jokes or
bits or observations about having a kid that I well,
(32:32):
I have because I have a kid. But I mean
that's probably no more than thirty percent of my set.
And it's really about other things. It's not about simply
like my kid did this thing and no, no, no,
it's really about the things around it. You know.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
You grew up in Georgia. Yeah, football allegiances college and
pro would be what well.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Pros the Falcons. Of course I was going to. I
was gonna I know this isn't this is just audio,
but I was gonna wear my one off limited edition ABC.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Steve Barkowski, who were rolling with what do we got?
What are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Matt Ryan?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Yeah, I mean, I he was not the issue with
that team, and it's true he wasn't. And I really
I've gotten a lot of arguments. Yeah, it was a
big Steve Barkowski fan. You know, there hasn't been a
whole lot to be excited about as a Falcons fan,
but cautiously optimistic about the coming years, you know, yes,
(33:32):
Desmond does and you know, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
It's cool like the Falcons fandum is like you've had
this Super Bowl year in ninety nine where it's kind
of out of nowhere and it's a dirty bird and
all that. And then at twenty sixteen with Matt Ryan,
he goes and wins the MVP, and obviously the super
Bowl goes as it goes.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
We don't have to go down that road.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It's funny you say, Matt Ryan he just retired or
he's taking a job at CBS. He might come back,
He's gonna be an announcer. And we had a debate
on our morning show on NFL Network. Is Matt Ryan underappreciated?
And my case is he's been wildly underappreciate because the
first thing out of everyone's mouth is twenty eight to three,
how he lost Super Bowl, not the fact he was
an MVP and a starting quarterback in the league for
(34:13):
fifteen straight years. One of the hardest things to do
is durability.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
He didn't lose the Super Bowl, the choice to pass
three times Super Bowl, the head coaching lost defense. I mean,
it's a team sport, but would I would totally blame
the coaching on that. I mean, that was crazy. We
all sat there going, what the Yeah, that's not Matt
(34:40):
Ryan's fault. And the only knock I can give Matt
Ryan is he's you know, not very mobile, right and shut,
and in this in the certainly the latter half of
his career that there was a shift to that kind
of quarterback and offense, and it was like he straddled
(35:01):
two generations in a way. But again, like I said,
he was not the problem or certainly not the sole
problem of that team, and getting rid of him for
Marcus Mariota is like, Okay, what did you why? What
what are you doing? And you didn't get anything? Yeah,
I mean he's he's underappreciated certainly in that context.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
You know, Yeah, did you have college football? I know
it's a huge college football time. You were what Roswell
Georgia is where you from?
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yeah? I mean I didn't. I wanted to go to
Uga and all my friends went to Uga after high school,
but I wasn't accepted there. It actually became the premise
of a mister show bit. That's a real thing. The guy,
this guy Moe Phelps, who's dead, but he was a
dean of admissions, and this whole thing became a mister
(35:51):
show bit where we quote him for real what he
told me about going to Uga, and because I drove
up there to have it, what did he say? He
asked me what. Uh. And this is after you know,
they won the Sugar Bowl. There was a championship with
herschel Walker and everything. And he's like, you know what
did what do you want to major in? And I
(36:12):
said acting? And he said acting. He's just all southern
just you know, the old Selden, good old boy a
ball and short sleeve Polly Astra shirt. You know when
he goes, uh, what's acting? But just jumping up and
down on stage and yelling and screaming a lot. And
(36:33):
you know what, I and I just drove up there,
you know, and just before Athens was all kindect accessibly
he had to go through these small towns everything get
there and paying the ass and and I just I
was like, I don't I don't know what to say
(36:54):
to that. There's no I mean, I could say a
logical response, but it's what kind of conversation would go.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I was like, okay, did you start list actors like
there's this guy, Marlon Brando, you know, like these are great.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
It was clear that this was kind of a feudal thing,
and I know, I just sort of we had another
probably five minutes of talking. Thank you very much. Please
consider my application, and then I left. I was like, well,
they're not gonna me. I ended up taking a year
(37:34):
off and then going to school in Boston, which was
just as well.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah, it worked out a couple more things and one
of the deals. It's not like a fun topic, but
for our listeners who follow the NFL, like the writer's
strike is going on right now, I saw you were
out there on the front lines, just top line.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
If you were someone to say, hey, give me the.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Main points of this, of where the writers are coming from,
and I know you've been obviously you're not the voice
of the Writers Union by any chance, of the Writers Guild,
but just so that we know if the viewers are like,
where the hell are my favorite shows in the fall?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
What you guys are fighting for?
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah, I mean, very simply put, just fairness, a fair
A lot of this is not about hey, I want
you know, one hundred dollars an hour. It's really it's
much like the last strike in two thousand and eight.
It's about new technology and new things that have come
up since the last negotiation that nobody had planned for
(38:29):
the last time, it was about DVDs, like our writer
is going to be compensated since all their work is
coming out on DVD, you know, akin to actors residuals,
you know. And this time a big part of it
is about AI and making sure that writers aren't replaced
by robots. And it's just about fairness, not necessarily right now,
(38:57):
but before what we are looking for in the future,
which has always been it's one hundred percent of the time.
You have to anticipate what is going to happen it's
ten years from now, and be prepared for it and
be compensated and just fair. It's just I can't make
it any more simple than saying it's about fairness. It's
(39:19):
about paying. Without writers, there's no show, all right. And
I don't care how many computers you get, you're not
going to write, you know, Succession and that's all and
Arrested Development and Severance and all these you know, Breaking
Bad and Sopranos and all these shows aren't going to
(39:40):
be written by computers, you know. And and you don't
have those things without the writer, and the writers, like
the has always been like the least kind of celebrated
but arguably the most important part. Nothing exists without the
concept and the idea and the story and the dialogue
and all that, and you know, we've never been compensated correctly,
(40:04):
and this strike is just about getting to the bare
minimum of fairness. And these studios and the streamers and
the producers have literally hundreds of billions of dollars and
they're not willing to. It's the it's the age old
problem and and so really it's it's about the future.
(40:29):
It's not about right now. It's not about we want,
you know, mansion and it's not about that. It's about
protecting ourselves for what is going to happen to four, six,
eight years from now.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
It's chilling because you say the AI thing, and I
think a lot of people who aren't in the room
are there, like Robot, they're not going to And the
response from the studios, apparently whatever their union is, was
we'll revisit it once a year. And you're like, whoa,
that's not a you know, And that's a chilling response.
That's scary. The other part is I listen to a
different podcast in Danny McBride on it yesterday and he said,
(41:08):
just out of curiosity, he was like, chat GPT make
a righteous gemstone script and he's like, and it sucked
He's like, it sucked, and it really sucked.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
And just so you know, the equality will not be
what you want it to be.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
It's not not even going to be close. Come on,
it's not. It's it and you know it's so yes,
it's about protecting ourselves from that because the studio. I mean, look,
this is a free market, capitalistic society. They're going to
throw stuff out there. It's why we have so much
reality TV is because of the two thousand and eight strike,
and it's way cheaper to produce, and you wouldn't have,
(41:44):
you know, nineteen versions of vandr.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Pump Love Island or vander Housewives.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
I mean that may be satisfying and entertaining for some people,
but other people want a story, you know, and as
I said, chat Ai is not going to do it.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
You and your wife are both actors. You guys are
so the thick of it. Like, do you guys still
find time to watch other shows? Like yeah, is there
in your Like you're like Successions tonight, Like we're watching.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Yes, we we are. My wife has to catch up
from last week's we'll watch tonight. We'll watch the last two.
But Succession, for sure, I just did season four of
the Umbrella Academy Cool, which I had I was familiar
with as like a cultural thing, but I didn't. I'd
(42:35):
never seen it. I knew people loved it. I knew
that it was popular, you know, And so I started
watching it, and like both my wife and I became
hooked and we're all caught up now. And then I
got my sister hooked on it, my mom, who's eighty five.
So we binge watched that. We watched, we watched Succession, Severance,
(42:59):
waiting patiently for that.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Patient that if that's your boys still are, tell him like, bro,
like at.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Some point like like, let's.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Got all the writers strike affected them too, you know,
but they're all pro, right, all these you know, almost
everybody is pro on the writer's side.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
And oh and Top Chef, big Top Chef fan, really
big Top Chef fan. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I love it all right, my last one. You've been
asked about it before. I heard you with Mark Maron
years ago, and I like loved the competition on it,
and I've tell you I have Disney Plus it was
height of the pandemic. You're looking for something, bro, you
might not want to talk on it. I love the
Chipmunks movies, dude, and you're great in them and you
were clever and you're fun.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
And I don't know if you run away from that
talk or not.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
No, no, I have no. I mean it was.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
I'm you're great in them. You understand that, right, Like
you're great.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
I when I get hired for something, I will talk
to the director, producer, whatever, and I assume I bring
it up, like you guys are hiring me in part
because I I play around and I be right and
I offer things up and I improvise and I assume
that's what you want. And they were no different, and
(44:13):
it was It wasn't a bad experience. It was just
sort of an interesting thing. And everybody I worked with
on the first two films were great. And then the
third film was I don't know why. I mean, i'll
write about it.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Tell me everything.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I don't know this, so tell me.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
I just know.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
Honestly, I know the first one, and I know the
squeakl those are my chance.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Schipwrecked was chip wrecked.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
I never saw chipwreck.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
That don't don't. It would be weird if you did,
now that your your kids are grown or whatever. Like
I'm just ha hanging out. Honey, I'm just gonna watch
chipp tonight.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
So what was the promise plot and tell me take
us through Chipwreck?
Speaker 4 (44:57):
It was, uh, my character. Well, first of all, I
know that they're was this really blatant gross product placement
thing with Carnival Cruise line. It takes place, the whole
thing for most most of it takes place on a
(45:19):
carnival cruise in which the people that were on the
actual people that were on the carnival cruise did not
know that we were going to be shutting down big
sections of the cruise.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Oh you guys, did it rent out the cruise ship?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
You did it while the actual cruise.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Was going on?
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Oh yeah, yeah. And then I had this slide show
that I made. I used to do this and it
was called It's Just Fantasy Versus Reality, So you would
see I had tons of pictures of the extras and
set the people who were acting, you know, like they
took over like the water slide and the pool, the strengths,
(46:00):
and there are these hot like twenty something early thirties kids,
and then you just pan over to the real and
it was just oh boy, it was like the worst
of the worst of Florida and it was I it
was really it was.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Pretty How long was the shoot?
Speaker 4 (46:21):
I think we were on the boat for ten days.
I think we were shooting for like seven of those days,
and then there were we were stuck on there and
there was no That was another thing. They one of
the first things you get in your room, which is tiny.
I don't know if you've been on a cruise.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I've never been on a cruise.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
But there's the first thing. He is this little we
we got these little packages from production. There's no internet
on the boat. And if you shift to short calls,
if you need to make calls, like ninety dollars, so
you know you're you're kind of on this boat, which
from from the outside you're like, this is huge, just
(47:02):
as massive, but only half of that you're looking at
is accessible, like the rest of it is the inner
workings of the ocean liner and the and all that stuff.
So it's it's way more cramped than you would might imagine.
There's no and if you're a guy like me who
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is one of those like, hey are you famous? Like
I get that a lot when I'm out. You know,
people don't know who I am.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
So and then they recognize you, but they just what
do I know you from?
Speaker 4 (47:34):
One of those and then they just want to know,
like how do I know you from? And I'm like
I don't know, no, no tell me. And so it
was ten days of that where it's like I just
I just would like to get something to eat. I
want run through my IMDb page.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Oh I loved you in the ten Yes, let's talk
about it. Let's go, Yes, you wish it was that,
you wish it was that? Oh my gosh, all right,
and then the movie wraps and you're like, I'm done
with this or you did have another one after that?
Speaker 4 (48:06):
No, I was contractually obligated to do three, so I did.
That was my last one. That was. But they also
treated me very poorly. I don't know why. From the
very beginning, it was very strange. I was in London
to do the second series of Todd Margaret and Great
Decisions Tod Margaret. I don't want to bore everybody with this.
It's just we don't have to, you know, And I'm
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producing the show. I'm not just you're the guy.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
You're the producer or the actor everything.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
The only reason I say that is to say that
I was responsible for about sixty jobs, you know, And
we have been asking for at least a year whether
I was going to be a part of the third thing,
because again I'm contractually obligated to do three. And they
kept saying no, I don't know, and they weren't very
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helpful or forthcoming. And then I will never forget this
as long as I live. I was it was like Christmas,
and we're going to start shooting at about I want
to say four weeks, maybe three weeks, three or four weeks.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Scripts are done, actors are hired, we're.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
In pre production. We're already, Oh we.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Have You're in London, You're like, I've.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
Been there for months, and we're We've got sets being
built and people are hired, and again, you know, responsible
for roughly sixty jobs, and you know, and a lot
of these are friends of mine. Now we've we've been
doing the show. We did the pilot, and we did
the first series and now we're getting ready to do
the second. And I was at Herod's with my wife,
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and which is kind of one of our little Christmas
traditions when we're in London, you go to the food
hall whatever. We're there, my phone rings and it says
like the team or uta team or whatever, and oh
and I just had a bad feeling immediately, you knew.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Like the agents are calling on Christmas?
Speaker 1 (49:59):
What is going on?
Speaker 4 (50:00):
And I answered the phone and it's and it's David.
I have She runs through my lawyer, my agent, and
my So that's only good or bad news, and it's
never anything in between.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
When you're either in a Marvel movie or something's happening.
Speaker 4 (50:17):
It's either really good news or really bad news. And
then my manager says, where are you? I explain. He goes, okay,
can you get somewhere, can you sit down somewhere? I know,
I know what it is. I know what you do.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
It's been looming in the back of your mind, like
it's a chance. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
And it's a long, boring story, Peter, but it's it's
it was awful and they were so unpleasant, so weird.
And then I get the script. Of course, Oh the
other thing. I will just say this, so not only
is the movie going, they want me to be in
Hawaii for rehearsals on January third, and I'm like, you know,
(51:01):
and my wife's not going on this trip right to
visit friends in Southern aw who were in the Peace
Southern in the Peace Cort. Yeah, so we're gonna yeah,
and and I'm like, I can't. I don't even get back.
I would have to go I can't even go get
to Hawaii from London and I have no clothes. I
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would have to go to New York and stop in
and get proper clothing. And I'm also like, rehearsal, are you.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
The animatronic?
Speaker 4 (51:35):
And then it became clear pretty quickly they're just trying
to screw, trying to screw. Yeah, And there was this
whole thing with the trailer, like everybody had a nice trailer,
like a regular trailer, and I had this moldy, beat
up like hard thing.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
That was on the on the ship or in Hawaii.
Speaker 4 (51:52):
No, in Hawaii for the rehearsals for and the guys
saying like that's all. You know, there's a lot of
production Hawaii, that's all. And it's just clear there with
me and I've.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Ah was Jason Lee Was he in that one too?
Or did he drop out or not?
Speaker 1 (52:04):
He was?
Speaker 4 (52:05):
He was still Dave And you know, we had a
bunch of scenes together and yeah, and look I did
I was professional and I did what I do and
I tried to make it as good as possible. I
tried to add things and I don't know, I don't
know what. I'm not sure what their issue was. They
never were very forthcoming about it. I have no idea.
(52:28):
But then they withheld a bonus from me.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Stop now we're getting to it now, I'm angry.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
Yeah, they withhold the bonus that it was supposed to
get because contractually there was some language in there where
I did something where I quote unquote disparaged the movie.
And yeah, they're they're just there. It was strange. It
was very odd and it's the only only experience I've
had like that. I've never ever.
Speaker 5 (52:55):
Yeah, you've been in a million things, You've never yeah,
like beloved, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Real quick, before we wrap, what do you got going
on now besides the tour?
Speaker 2 (53:04):
What else is shaken?
Speaker 1 (53:05):
And is there where else can we find you?
Speaker 4 (53:07):
I mean, as I said, the tour is going to
be Uh, that's that's taken up most of my time.
And if you want to see the upcoming dates again,
we're going through October, but it just go to official
David Cross dot com. That'll have all the dates coming up.
A couple of places we're hitting again because they sold
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out really quickly. Good and the set has kind of
evolved since I was there, So like, I'm in Denver
a week from today, and the.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Day after Memorial Day, you'll be in Denver.
Speaker 4 (53:39):
And that and that is the second time I'm in
Denver and we've been doing I'm going back to Chicago
and so you can take a look on there and
and also Europe as well.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Any movies.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
No, oh, yes, what what am I talking about. I
just went to the screening last night. I'm out of it.
I'm very tired.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
What's the film?
Speaker 4 (54:00):
You hurt my feelings? And it's really good. It was.
That was the first time I had seen it, and
it was really fun to shoot. I enjoyed it a lot.
It was it was cool. And my wife and I
play a couple in therapies. And my real wife and
I Amber Tamblin play a couple that are in therapy,
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couple's therapy with this guy played by Tobias Menzies. We're
just we're you know, we're supporting cast. It's really Julie
Louis Dreyfuss and Tobias Menzies and it's a Nicole Hollup
Center film and it's it's really good. It's really good.
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Awesome. That's cool.
Speaker 4 (54:37):
And then I'm going to be on Umbrella Academy Season four.
Super great experience, really great set, really fun character to play,
and just what a treat and an honor to be
a part of that show and that experience that they
were great. And and then also I'll be in Justified Primeval,
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which I don't know when that will be coming out, Okay,
it's coming out shortly. And that's that's what I got
in the pipeline. Come out. And again I'll be touring.
I'm taking the summer off, but I'll be I'm on
the road until July and then I will be back
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out in September.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
Great, dude, you're awesome. I so appreciate you taking the time.
And know it's the first time we're meeting. It's always awkward, like, hey,
good to meet you. We're going live on a podcast
and an intimate thing about try But I appreciate you
so much for taking the time, and I hope you
enjoyed it too.
Speaker 4 (55:33):
I did. I did very much. And let's go watch
a Falcon Saints game together.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yes we will.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
We'll go watch Falcon Saints their new coach, Arthur Smith.
I don't know if if you're.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
A great dude, smart guy.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
And they drafted a running back eighth overalls guy Dejean Robinson,
who he might be the best running back to inner
the league since like Sakuon Barkley. So I feel very
good about the Falcons, but I always do in May.
So that's my feeling of confidence for you.
Speaker 4 (55:58):
I was with me all right, guys, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
Dear Cross is funny, Aaron. This is the goal of
the podcast. We're going to get you the Arthur Smith interview.
You're craving. We're gonna get you the you know, the
offensive line coach of the Saints someday. But I also
want to bring on guys that I love who have
entertained me for years. David Cross is hilarious In Arrested Development,
he was down playing it almost there, and yet I
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think that just scratches the surface. You hurt my feelings
movie was talking about, which he was like, yeah, Julia
Louis Dreyfus is the star. That's a major star that
opens May twenty sixth, Justified City Primeval airs July eighteenth,
and then he's on tour Tuesday, the day after Memorial Day.
He's in Denver, where he said he's been sold out.
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But Aaron David Cross cool as hell. Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 3 (56:45):
I also love as an actor from arrest Development. He's
a Falcons fan, and I think Falcons. This is I'm
pushing this wordplay a little too hard, but I think
Falcons might think their offense is in a state of
arrested development. And there we go. We tied it in perfectly.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Why I love you. I don't even know what the
state of arrested development would be, and yet it works. Guys,
Till next week, We've got more of these kind of
guests that are comedians, actors, entertainers. We're proactively seeking them out,
like this is the off season and I'm bringing on
guys and gals that I think are interesting.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
And I don't know if you're getting.
Speaker 5 (57:20):
That Chipmunks three chipwreck story anywhere else, but I'll take it.
Unbelievable behind the curtain, David Cross, nowhere else in podcasting
are you going to hear about Thursday night Flex scheduling
right into the Mister Show, Mister show. I was gonna
say chip Wreck, Yeah, Chipreck Carnival Cruise Lines. If you
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want to be a sponsor, we're open and amenable to it,
if you want to be Just so it is until
next week.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
Because my name is Peter Schrager. This is Aaron Wan Kauffman.
Our guest was David Cross, the incredible comedian and actor.
Jason English is here back in la We got Matt Schneider,
Jason Cleman, and Meredith Batton who they all run the
show and all the stuff that you're seeing on digital.
But gosh, couldn't be happier with today's episode. We got
more to come. Thanks for listening. The Season with Peter
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