April 21, 2020 • 35 mins
Born and raised in Indianapolis, Indiana, Anthony Montgomery received a B.S. in Performance Theatre and Drama from Ball State University in Muncie, Indiana.
Early in his career, Anthony guest starred on such shows as J.A.G., Charmed, Frasier and the Showtime original series, Resurrection Blvd. Anthony got his “big break” with a recurring role as George Auston on the WB television series, Popular.
In 2001, Anthony landed a series-regular role on Star Trek: Enterprise as Ensign Travis Mayweather. For the next four years and 98 episodes, Anthony piloted Enterprise’s NX01 into many adventures and into the hearts of loyal Star Trek fans around the world. Star Trek: Enterprise ended in 2005 and Anthony was with the series until the very end.
After taking time away from entertainment to focus on family, Anthony returned to acting in 2007, landing the lead role of Jay Brooks in the critically acclaimed independent feature film, I’m Through with White Girls (The Inevitable Undoing of Jay Brooks). The Romantic Comedy received 10 awards on the film festival circuit, including seven Audience Awards for Best Narrative Feature Film, before being acquired by Image Entertainment for national distribution.
In October 2008, Anthony pursued a different artistic interest and released his debut Hip Hop music album, “A.T.” The album makes Anthony the first actor in the Star Trek franchise to release music in the Hip Hop genre. A.T was distributed internationally through Universal Music Group, via Anthony’s German-based record label, AGR Television Records. Anthony continues to record and do live performances when his schedule permits.
Returning to the camera early in 2009, Anthony landed guest starring roles on NCIS, House and the TNT original series, Trust Me.
In 2018, Anthony filmed a recurring role as attorney Elliot Garner on the OWN (Oprah Winfrey Network) drama Greenleaf.
December 2018, Anthony filmed a supporting role in the independent feature film, Lost Girls: Angie’s Story, where he portrays detective Chase Dawson who fights to save young girls who have been trafficked.
In 2019, Anthony filmed his first holiday movie, Carole’s Christmas, in which he plays Marcus Jordan opposite leading lady Kimberly Elise. The film aired on OWN during the holiday season as part of their festive yuletide line-up.
December 2019, Anthony finished the year filming an episode of Magnum, P.I., starring Jay Hernandez which aired on CBS. Anthony portrays former C.I.A. operative Roy Till.
Anthony is currently filming a recurring role on the B.E.T. series The Family Business, based on the New York Times Best Selling novel series by Carl Weber, which was picked up for a second
season and will air on B.E.T. Plus. Anthony portrays Brother Elijah, second in command of the Muslim Brotherhood, a fictionalized radical faction of Islam.
Anthony has two children and resides in Los Angeles.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me
Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and
TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transition to
a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New
Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Thomas.
I audition every rapper from Biggie's Balls to Tupac, and
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I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help
transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from
Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Ye from The
Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons, to name a few. I
also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel
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I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director,
I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an
acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in
that room. Now. I know. I know actors want to
get the job. I get that, but being remembered by
casting director that is powerful meditation of the day. If
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you don't run your own life, someone else will. My
life is filled with some wonderful people, people who are
truly unique in their own right. I appreciate, love everyone
and would not change anything about them. Part of the
reason why I wouldn't change them is because I can't. Instead,
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I can only love and appreciate love who they are.
I listen to them and I try not to pass judgment.
I know that I am not perfect, and I am
growing every day. I trust that my real friends understand
that too. Today I will call one of my friends
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and tell them how grateful I am to have them
in my life. Hi, and welcome to the Spirited Actor
Podcast with me Tracy Moore. I'm beyond excited today because
we have a really, really wonderful guest, Um, one of
my favorite actors in the whole entire world. And UM,
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you guys need to get your pens, pencils, you know,
your iPads, your phone, however you document information, because you
are going to be blessed with not only not only
insights about being an actor, but the thing I love
about Anthony is that he takes his career. He is
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in control of his career. Um, Anthony is not just
an actor. He is a phenomenal producer, writer. We'll talk
about all of that, but ladies and gentlemen, put your
hands together, please, for the Anthony Montgomery, Hey, ho um,
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I love you, and I'm really happy to be here,
to be to good actor and uh and to reach
out to all of your incredible listeners. Yeah, we're in
a new world right now. We're not going to call
it the New World Order, but we are in a
new world. So it's one of them that we're able
to connect. I'm in California, you're on the East Coast,
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and we're able to come into people's living room. So
I'm really excited about this. I'm excited too, and I'm
excited for everyone to know. Um. For those of you
who don't know Anthony's work, we're going to talk about
all that, but let's start in the beginning. Anthony, what
is I love to ask the question in my class,
how why did you choose acting? Because sometimes I feel like,
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you know, it is a choice, but maybe acting chose you.
I don't know, But why did you choose acting? Okay,
so a lot of the stuff that we are about
to talk about, I don't want to um deter people
from getting my autobiography when now I when I am
finished with it. That is that one of the sections
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is performer, and it's my road to Hollywood, so I will. Actually,
I'm actually addressing a lot of this stuff because, as
you said, I decided a long time ago to take
my career into my own hands, and I've survived a life,
and I figured, even though I've only been in this
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world a short amount of time, I've got some lessons
that I've learned from this journey from Indiana to Hollywood
that I think we'll be able to inspire at least
one person. We always say reach one, teach one. I
think I'll be able to inspire at least one person
unto their greatness. So forgive me if people hear me
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tell this and then they see it regurgitated in what
I'm writing. But that's where I am right now. I'm
actually on page twenty six of my autobiography it now,
and I've just yeah, it's um, it's an interesting process.
My goal, since we're all on quarantine, my goal is
to have the first draft done in the next two weeks.
So I'm at home, I've got time. Let's go ahead
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and get it done. So, UM, what drew me to acting?
I feel like acting chose me. I was actually in college.
I didn't know what I was gonna do with my life.
I was heading to I started at I U p
U I Indiana University, Purdue University at Indianapolis, they called me.
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They call it OUI Pui where I'm from. UM. I
just registered with general Electives because I didn't know what
I was gonna do with myself. And I was on
my way to one of my classes. A professor was
walking the opposite direction, so he's walking towards me and
he said, wow, you're beautiful, which is just you know,
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as a dude from Indiana, I'm like, hold on, you
know um? And he said, he said, are you an actor?
And I said no. He said do you want to be?
And I said, I don't know, I've never thought about it. Why.
He said, I'm auditioning a play and i'd like you
to audition. I think you'd be great for it. And
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I didn't know what auditioning was. But again the Indiana naivete,
I had heard about the casting couches in Hollywood. So
when I heard casting, I went, wait, what are you
talking about? Because the first thing you say to me
is you're beautiful? And then you said and I'm like, well,
hold on, man, he said, I said what is casting.
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What are you talking about? And he said, he said, oh,
you know nothing about acting. I said, I know, other
than going to a movie, I don't know anything about
acting at all. He said, I will give you a
script that I'll have the dialogue on it. You read,
however it may you feel. You come in you say
it that way. Now, over the years, I've learned that
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there's a hell of a lot more that goes into
acting than just that. But as a novice, somebody just
getting into the business, I said, that's all I have
to do. You're gonna give me a paper. I read it,
and however I feel, I say it that way. He said, yes,
that's it. I said, okay, I I didn't for it.
I got the piece. It was called East of the Sun,
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West of the Moon. I played the North Wind. It
was a children's theater piece. From our first show. I
realized the impact that we had on a stadium full
of children. It completely shifted me inside and out, and
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I immediately went back and declared my major as a
theater major. I didn't declare. I didn't declare a minor um.
People would, including my mom, when I told her that
I was going to be an actor. She said, well,
what are you gonna do to make money? And I said,
I'm actually really now she had never seen me do anything.
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I said, I'm actually pretty good at this. I'm gonna
learn about it and I'm better better. Well, yeah, because
that was just the first thing, and I was I
had a very small part. You know, they would call
it a co star, they would call it an under five.
I was only in the piece for I was the
understudy of the lead, but she only got sick one time.
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So I just had my one role, which was really small,
but it was impactful in the play. And once I
did it, I said, Okay, I'm going to explore this
wherever this goes and declared a minor. I said, I'm
going to act. I'm I'm going to become an actor,
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don't worry and uh and the journey went from there.
Then transferred to the State at I p U I
for two years, and then I turned to Ball State University,
which is where I graduated from agree in performance theater
and drama. UM and I got into more plays. When
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I was at Ball State, I learned the history of theater.
I learned, you know. When I was at UY, I
did stage craft. When I got to Ball State, I
had to take costuming, so I literally learned all about
being an actor while I was in school, and I
mean I loved it. I loved it. I I just
fell in love with the craft and didn't realize there
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was still so much for me to learn in the process.
But I knew once I started down that road, I
would be able to impact people with my gift. And
I didn't know what that was up until I started college.
I mean, for me, Anthony, you have such a respect
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for the craft, and I honestly think that was the
thing that really um bought awareness to you because in
the audition, your preparation, your focus, it was just undeniable.
I mean, and you know, I remember, I've had the pleasure,
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ladies and gentlemen, of working with Anthony um We kind of.
I wasn't on the set for The Man in three B,
but I was on the set for The Creature's Son,
and I remember, let me see if you remember this,
we were on the set there was a scene where
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you were getting ready to marry you're mistress to another men,
and the conflict for you, of course, was seeing her
being married off to on one UM. But you still
had to maintain because you were a respectable UM preacher,
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a deacon, you still had to maintain your posture. So
what I enjoyed watching the most was the conflict. Your
conflict in that scene was. It was just I don't
know what your preparation was, but I I almost feel
like I could reach your thoughts sitting in the pews
watching you Um. And it was interesting because when we
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would you know, Um, Trey Haley, the director, Trey Haley, UM,
who I had an amazing time with. And I really
loved Trey Um when he would stay cut because it
was a huge cast. We were, you know, it was
a wedding and we were in church and you have
a lot of extras. People were entertaining and last theme
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having a good time. But I would always I would
see you, Anthony, fight in for that space to recreate
what you had to do in your next take, right,
And Um, as a producer, you know, I just you know,
went to the other producers and to Tray and I
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was like, you know, we just really have to after
we say cut, we have to really silence everyone for
you to be able to have that space. And well,
you said, was it difficult? Yeah, I mean, because I
mean there were at least I mean, including the crew,
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there had to be at least fifty people in that space. Yes,
I remember, I remember exactly when you're talking about. I
tried to when I'm on set, I tend to bring
all of my energy and I tried to let the
energy of the set remain wherever it is. If for
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a character that I have to be really intense for,
I tend to step away, separate myself so I can
maintain that space so it feels organically natural when I
go back into all right, everybody, let's go back to
one and we're starting to get going again. I don't
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want to have to take myself from jumping around and
playing on set to now having to bring it all
back in because for me personally, that feels inorganic when
I'm when I am, when I am in a character
and I'm on set, I make sure everything that I'm
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doing is about that character, and I tried everything I
can to stay in that moment regardless of the distractions
around me. So there are times where where you saw
when what you're talking about, if it gets too unruly
for me and I feel like I can't stay in
my space. Then I just removed myself. I've had I've
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had people on sets laugh at me because because I
am I'm too focused, you know, with the air quotes.
But that's my job. You didn't bring me there to
uh to party with everybody and two waste time. You
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brought me there to do what it is that I
do as an actor. And that just that started when
I was in college. Just uh. I never got on
stage and a play and tried to make my other
cast members laugh. I've been in place with people where
they think it's funny to try to They call it
breaking somebody on stage. So we're up here in a play,
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you sink or swim together, So I'm not. I'm never
going to be the actor that's going to purposely try
to get up and the other person that I am
doing this dance with try to throw them off their
game because if they sink, I sink. That doesn't never
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made sense to me, so that just carried over when
I moved myself to Hollywood. I'm about the business. Like
we can be friends and we can joke and play,
but when it comes time to do business, I'm about business.
So you on most sets that I'm on you won't
see a bunch of really bad outtakes of me just
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joking and yucking it up and and just taking the
time for Granted, there's too much making, there's too much money,
there's too much energy, there's too much time that goes
into this process. So I'm very serious about that aspect
of it. For myself. I mean, I have a high
respect for your work ethic. It is so professional focus
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and you do have a respect for your other colleagues
that you're working with, like you know, um, and you
know as a producer, time is money. We don't have
time to play games on the set. Um. I just
wanna just throw out a couple of credits here from
my actors. I always stressed them to go to IMDb
dot com, and um, we can start. I mean, I
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have The Preacher's Son and The Man in three B
which is currently on Netflix. Um, Chariot, Oh my God,
Grey's Anatomy. Um single Ladies, which is one of my
favorite shows. I think that's where I first Yeah, um
VH World jas I was one of the joy there. Yes,
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that's a great show. Um. We have The Client List,
which was another one of my favorite shows. House, Oh
my god. Um, ladies and gentlemen, I want you to
listen to these credits and the work in c I
s um the Porter, which was a short m um.
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And then let's talk about Star Trek Enterprise, because um,
just a huge franchise within itself. How did you land
that role? I auditioned for a man named Ron Serma.
He was the casting director who had cast I know
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he at least cast Voyager. I don't know if he
had cast the other series, the other Star Trek series.
But I initially went in for a role on Star
Trek Voyager and I didn't get it. But and that
was three years prior to me getting Star Trek Enterprise.
I didn't get that, but that started a relationship with
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myself and Ron Serma, the casting director. UM, maybe a
year or so, I feel like it was later. I
go in for another role and I didn't get that role. Again,
this is Star Voyager, and I would not in that
second audition, I would not have even been on the
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show physically. I would have been a video transmission of
a character and and that would have been it for me.
And I was told that I didn't look alien enough
because I was supposed to play Tuvok's son, who is
the most of your fans. If any of them are
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Star Trek fans, they will know him as the only
black Vulcan that the franchise has featured. And and when
I didn't get that one, uh, you know, I'm still
auditioning and going on the journey of the actor's journey
as you do in Hollywood. And then they bring me
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in for which was my third time auditioning for that
casting director. They brought me in for the untitled Star
Trek series. It was nearing the end up the run
of Voyager, and they brought me in for the role
that I got, Travis Mayweather. Apparently they had audition fifty
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other guys. They had been looking high and low, and
when I got the initial call, I went in, did
my best and felt great and I left. I was
hosting at the time. I was hosting a kid's adventure
show called The Awesome Adventures, and they had taken me
up to the Bay Area, up to um northern California,
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from where I am. I'm down in southern California. They
took me up to northern California and while I was there,
my manager at the time called and said they wanted
to do a test deal for me. Um they were
they wanted me to come back. Now, I that was
only the second time I had ever done a test,
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so I didn't know what it entailed. The first time
I did one, I didn't know what that was. The
first time I did one was on a soap opera
in New York, and that I didn't know what I
was doing in that one. UM, while I was gone,
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they said they're gonna get the deal together for you
and they'll have you come back. You're gonna meet I
eventually met Rick Berman and Brandon Braga, who were our
exact producers and our creators of our series, with Jim Conway,
who was our director. Um. They brought me in and
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the test went great. I when I was I remember
going over with Rick and Brandon, and as we were
walking over, they said, Rick, in his very dry humor, said,
you see, you're the only one we're bringing. Don't screw
this up. And I was like, I nervous, right, I
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just ye had no pressure. Thanks, I'm the only one, okay.
But I didn't know what that meant. I didn't realize
that most times for tests they will have five six However,
however many choices there are, and you are one of
a group. I didn't realize I was the only one
that they were testing at that time. And how many
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people were in the room when you were testing when
I had When I eventually went in, there were twelve,
I want to say, twelve to thirteen men and women
in suits sitting, Uh sitting, Yeah, I mean very it was.
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It was very unnerving. I can say now because I
because I did it, but uh, just walking in and
they looked pleasant enough, but many of them had their
arms crossed, had their legs crossed, and it was you
feel like, Okay, I'm in the hot seat right now,
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and it's you do have an Ally in that room,
and that Ally is the Catholic director. Yes, but again
I didn't know that. And when you when you, I
didn't think about the severity of what I was stepping into.
I didn't I don't know what Star Trek is. Everybody
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in the world where watch Star Trek. Everybody in the
world knows what Star Trek is. Even if you don't
know any of the series, you don't know who the
people are, you do know what Star Trek is. So
I was familiar with it, but I had no idea
that my life was going to be impacted the way
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that it was. So for me, I'm just a broad
actor who's going into this room job. I do know
that if this goes well, then I'm gonna probably be
working for a while. Because everybody, even in just going
in for the audition, every series except for the original
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series had gone seven years, so they expected when I
went in for the test, I had signed a seven
year deal. And wow, okay, if you get this going
from being a broke actor, that's what I was gonna
say talk about. I mean, I don't want you don't
have to be specific specific, but I do know going
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from a broke act to a seven year deal on
a franchise like Star Trek, that money was you. It
was you know what. Um God blessed me with that one.
I definitely give I give God the credit because I
was able to pay off my student loans within a
few episodes of of our first season through episodes. You
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He didn't say the season, you guys, He said the
few episodes. Yeah, No, it was honestly, that was the
That was the most fun that I had ever had
in my life. And I didn't know I didn't know
what I was doing. You know, I'm from the block
in Indiana. Most of the people that are from where
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I'm from are either in jail or dead or existing
until they die. So when you tell me you're going
to give me the amount of money I was making
every eight days, and I can do it legally, I'm
doing whatever it is that I want to do. Yeah, uh,
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some fun. I had some fun. I had some fun,
but and I know it wasn't just fun. I was
able to I was able to buy my mom a car.
I was able to help out my siblings. I did
things as the oldest boy and kind of the man
of the family. I did the stuff that I needed
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to do, and I was able to do it as
an actor, which surprised a lot of people, because there's
a lot of people that were the naysayers and you're
never gonna make it and all of that stuff, and
you know, and they say that until you do. So
it shifted. It shifted my reality, and it let me
know that all of the hard work, when you hear
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the stories, your hard work will pay off. Your hard
work will pay off well. I was in Hollywood for
five years before I got Enterprise, and I was blinding.
Had I had three jobs when I got on enterprise.
I was doing I was working as a hotel security
guard for the Hyatt Regency um Hills or the Hilton,
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the Hilton Hotels and Woodland Hills. I was doing market
research for a company. And I don't know if I
should give the aim of them, but I was doing
market research for this company where I would call people
and say, Hi, this is Anthony, and I'm calling on
behalf of Pepsi. We'd like to get you to come
in and do a survey. We'll pay you twenty five
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dollars to answer some questions and sit and tell us
whether you like Pepsi zero or Pepsi one. You know,
stuff like that. Um and I was an m C
and and I was an m C and DJ for
bar and Bot Mitzvah's. Those those are the three jobs
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that I had when I got on enterprise. So I
was you know, I've been working since since I ran
away when I was nine years old, like I've been
working my life. Yeah, So this was the first time
going in for an audition a skill set that God
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blessed me with. Uh, it changed my life. I've found
my calling. I found my passion and then I actually
put in a hell of a lot of work. They
said it takes ten thousand hours. Well I put in
my ten thousand hours and back thing. So it makes
sense that I would things would start coming. You know,
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it's staying, it's staying the course. And that's what I
would tell your listeners. Absolutely, stay your course, no matter
how unnerving it gets, no matter how treacherous the terrain,
Stay your course, stay your course. If I am nothing,
I am absolutely an example that perseverance wins. Because, as
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they'll read in my book, I've overcome a lot to
be able to sit here and even talk to you
about this. Being abused when I was younger, being molested
when I was younger, like i've been through with Tracy.
So what I would tell you you know that, But
your listeners don't know me. They don't know anything about me.
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They don't know like I'm not just from enterprise. I
worked my ass off to Yes, you did, and that's
why I mean, honestly, that's what makes you one of
my favorite actors is your perseverance and the resilience that
you have. It is unbelievable. I can't wait until the
book comes out, So, um, I have three minutes, and UM,
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I gotta squeeze a couple of things in one. I
just wanted to say, you're perfect example when I tell actors,
I know you want the role, but when you are
remembered by a casting director, that is so powerful. And
that is an example of that because that casting director
remembered you to bring you in on that. Right second,
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I just want you to tell our audience in terms
of you know, um, you taking control of your career
whatever it is that you are able. You know that
you want to share with us now some of the
checks that you're working on or you know. Um. One
of the things that I did want to ask is
why did you feel that that was important for you?
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Because as an actor, that's a career within itself, you know,
and and the way you work that's enough. But it's
you know what I you you're saying, why was it
important for me to start doing other things? Yeah? In
terms of your projects, well, um, do you your upcoming
projects that you have? When what are you working on?
The uh? What I'm working on right now? Uh? Well,
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the family business, as you know, even though I didn't,
that is how you and I met. I didn't end
up getting the role that I got when you and
I met, but they did, uh. They did bring me
back in after doing The Preacher Son and the Man
in three B with them. They wrote a character for
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me that is going to be premiering in the second season.
I mean the character was already yes, yes, you will,
you will see it. His name is brother Elijah. You
will see him in the second season. And I'm working
opposite k J. Smith, who I just adore. She's fantastic.
I love kJ and people are going to see a
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completely different character. I've never played a Muslim character in
my life, and my take on it is I do
my work, so I can't wait for people to see this.
I'm in either nine or ten of the episodes of
their second season. They gotta to pick up. So production
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has shut down because of the coronavirus that we are
we are about to start. Whenever we come back, I
believe we'll be getting into episode ten and I'm in
them in those ten. Um, So we've got some for you, Anthony.
I'm gonna call you back because um, I want you
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to come back on this show. I want to talk
about when you come back. I want to talk about
my animation, Yes, my animated and I also want to
talk about go ahead throughout. My graphic novel that I
had years ago is being turned into an animated series.
And if your fans know, if your fans watch the Oscars,
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if your listeners watch the Oscars this year, they will
remember hair Love, the short film that one best us,
that one best picture. The people, the people that are
behind hair Love coming out Lion Forge Animation, they are
the people that have licensed my graphic novel. So really,
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oh my god. Yeah, you and I aren't done talking.
I've got so much no, no, no, I gotta I'm
gonna extend another invitation to come back on the show.
Um um, you know. I mean, I don't know when
we're gonna be in the studio again. But I just
want to say, you are a true inspiration, Anthony, and
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when people read your story, they're gonna be even more
in love with you. So you are a true example.
I said today in my Give Love. Are you an
American or you American? Because that's what my teaching to say.
You are an American. You persevere and you come out shining,
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stellar work, stellar individual. Can't wait to see you in
real life and catch up and chill. I look forward
to it. Thank you, thank you, Thank you Anthony so much.
Thank you, and have be safe, be healthy, and note
that we are going to get through this. I know
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you know that, so I'm gonna get through it. And
good luck on your and good luck on the writing.
Thank you, thank you. Oh can I tell people how
to follow me on social media? Absolutely? Please? Mr A Montgomery,
m R A M O N T g O M
E er y. So it's m R A. And then
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my last name that's on Twitter, that's on Instagram, that's
on Facebook is Anthony Montgomery. I think it's eighteen my
Facebook fan. All right, well you you heard that. Listeners
follow Anthony go to Netflix while we're inside bench on
his work, and we're gonna have him back so we
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can get some more insights and he's gonna drop someone pearls.
Thank you so much, Anthony, and you know I appreciate
love you, and I'm blowing and sprinkled dust. Thank you,
got it. I'm wrving it all over. I appreciate you
and thank you so much, thank you, And now it's
time forgive love. I have this teacher in elementary school
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that used to say, are you an American or are
you american't? And I used to say, I am an American.
It's so easy right now with the coronavirus to give up,
but we can't give up. We have to stay motivated,
we have to stay positive, and we have to hold
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a vision that we're going to get through this and
when we do come out of it, we're going to
be stronger and better. And one of the things that
I'm noticing is the humanity and community that has risen
from this crisis. And as human beings, we should be
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concerned about each other in our neighborhoods if people don't
have The other day, I ran into my neighbor and
she said, if you don't have paper, towels and toilet paper,
please come to my house because I've stalked my basement.
That's what we should be doing right now. We should
be coming together as a country, as a community and
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helping each other. And most importantly, we should abide by
the c d C rules, which my granddaughter Soria is
going to tell you. So you should stay six feet
away from people or more and wash your hands, keep
your hands off your face, don't put your hands in
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your mouth and make sure if you're sick, you shouldn't
go outside. Excellent Soria and she's seven. I need everybody,
everybody come together. Let's kill this virus, or at least
try to control it in some way and save ourselves.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you for joining us on
the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore. I look
forward to our next Spirited podcast. Thank you,
Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me
Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and
TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transition to
a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New
Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Thomas.
I audition every rapper from Biggie's Balls to Tupac, and
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I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help
transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from
Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Ye from The
Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons, to name a few. I
also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel
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I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director,
I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an
acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in
that room. Now. I know. I know actors want to
get the job. I get that, but being remembered by
casting director that is powerful meditation of the day. If
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you don't run your own life, someone else will. My
life is filled with some wonderful people, people who are
truly unique in their own right. I appreciate, love everyone
and would not change anything about them. Part of the
reason why I wouldn't change them is because I can't. Instead,
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I can only love and appreciate love who they are.
I listen to them and I try not to pass judgment.
I know that I am not perfect, and I am
growing every day. I trust that my real friends understand
that too. Today I will call one of my friends
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and tell them how grateful I am to have them
in my life. Hi, and welcome to the Spirited Actor
Podcast with me Tracy Moore. I'm beyond excited today because
we have a really, really wonderful guest, Um, one of
my favorite actors in the whole entire world. And UM,
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you guys need to get your pens, pencils, you know,
your iPads, your phone, however you document information, because you
are going to be blessed with not only not only
insights about being an actor, but the thing I love
about Anthony is that he takes his career. He is
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in control of his career. Um, Anthony is not just
an actor. He is a phenomenal producer, writer. We'll talk
about all of that, but ladies and gentlemen, put your
hands together, please, for the Anthony Montgomery, Hey, ho um,
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I love you, and I'm really happy to be here,
to be to good actor and uh and to reach
out to all of your incredible listeners. Yeah, we're in
a new world right now. We're not going to call
it the New World Order, but we are in a
new world. So it's one of them that we're able
to connect. I'm in California, you're on the East Coast,
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and we're able to come into people's living room. So
I'm really excited about this. I'm excited too, and I'm
excited for everyone to know. Um. For those of you
who don't know Anthony's work, we're going to talk about
all that, but let's start in the beginning. Anthony, what
is I love to ask the question in my class,
how why did you choose acting? Because sometimes I feel like,
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you know, it is a choice, but maybe acting chose you.
I don't know, But why did you choose acting? Okay,
so a lot of the stuff that we are about
to talk about, I don't want to um deter people
from getting my autobiography when now I when I am
finished with it. That is that one of the sections
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is performer, and it's my road to Hollywood, so I will. Actually,
I'm actually addressing a lot of this stuff because, as
you said, I decided a long time ago to take
my career into my own hands, and I've survived a life,
and I figured, even though I've only been in this
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world a short amount of time, I've got some lessons
that I've learned from this journey from Indiana to Hollywood
that I think we'll be able to inspire at least
one person. We always say reach one, teach one. I
think I'll be able to inspire at least one person
unto their greatness. So forgive me if people hear me
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tell this and then they see it regurgitated in what
I'm writing. But that's where I am right now. I'm
actually on page twenty six of my autobiography it now,
and I've just yeah, it's um, it's an interesting process.
My goal, since we're all on quarantine, my goal is
to have the first draft done in the next two weeks.
So I'm at home, I've got time. Let's go ahead
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and get it done. So, UM, what drew me to acting?
I feel like acting chose me. I was actually in college.
I didn't know what I was gonna do with my life.
I was heading to I started at I U p
U I Indiana University, Purdue University at Indianapolis, they called me.
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They call it OUI Pui where I'm from. UM. I
just registered with general Electives because I didn't know what
I was gonna do with myself. And I was on
my way to one of my classes. A professor was
walking the opposite direction, so he's walking towards me and
he said, wow, you're beautiful, which is just you know,
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as a dude from Indiana, I'm like, hold on, you
know um? And he said, he said, are you an actor?
And I said no. He said do you want to be?
And I said, I don't know, I've never thought about it. Why.
He said, I'm auditioning a play and i'd like you
to audition. I think you'd be great for it. And
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I didn't know what auditioning was. But again the Indiana naivete,
I had heard about the casting couches in Hollywood. So
when I heard casting, I went, wait, what are you
talking about? Because the first thing you say to me
is you're beautiful? And then you said and I'm like, well,
hold on, man, he said, I said what is casting.
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What are you talking about? And he said, he said, oh,
you know nothing about acting. I said, I know, other
than going to a movie, I don't know anything about
acting at all. He said, I will give you a
script that I'll have the dialogue on it. You read,
however it may you feel. You come in you say
it that way. Now, over the years, I've learned that
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there's a hell of a lot more that goes into
acting than just that. But as a novice, somebody just
getting into the business, I said, that's all I have
to do. You're gonna give me a paper. I read it,
and however I feel, I say it that way. He said, yes,
that's it. I said, okay, I I didn't for it.
I got the piece. It was called East of the Sun,
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West of the Moon. I played the North Wind. It
was a children's theater piece. From our first show. I
realized the impact that we had on a stadium full
of children. It completely shifted me inside and out, and
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I immediately went back and declared my major as a
theater major. I didn't declare. I didn't declare a minor um.
People would, including my mom, when I told her that
I was going to be an actor. She said, well,
what are you gonna do to make money? And I said,
I'm actually really now she had never seen me do anything.
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I said, I'm actually pretty good at this. I'm gonna
learn about it and I'm better better. Well, yeah, because
that was just the first thing, and I was I
had a very small part. You know, they would call
it a co star, they would call it an under five.
I was only in the piece for I was the
understudy of the lead, but she only got sick one time.
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So I just had my one role, which was really small,
but it was impactful in the play. And once I
did it, I said, Okay, I'm going to explore this
wherever this goes and declared a minor. I said, I'm
going to act. I'm I'm going to become an actor,
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don't worry and uh and the journey went from there.
Then transferred to the State at I p U I
for two years, and then I turned to Ball State University,
which is where I graduated from agree in performance theater
and drama. UM and I got into more plays. When
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I was at Ball State, I learned the history of theater.
I learned, you know. When I was at UY, I
did stage craft. When I got to Ball State, I
had to take costuming, so I literally learned all about
being an actor while I was in school, and I
mean I loved it. I loved it. I I just
fell in love with the craft and didn't realize there
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was still so much for me to learn in the process.
But I knew once I started down that road, I
would be able to impact people with my gift. And
I didn't know what that was up until I started college.
I mean, for me, Anthony, you have such a respect
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for the craft, and I honestly think that was the
thing that really um bought awareness to you because in
the audition, your preparation, your focus, it was just undeniable.
I mean, and you know, I remember, I've had the pleasure,
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ladies and gentlemen, of working with Anthony um We kind of.
I wasn't on the set for The Man in three B,
but I was on the set for The Creature's Son,
and I remember, let me see if you remember this,
we were on the set there was a scene where
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you were getting ready to marry you're mistress to another men,
and the conflict for you, of course, was seeing her
being married off to on one UM. But you still
had to maintain because you were a respectable UM preacher,
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a deacon, you still had to maintain your posture. So
what I enjoyed watching the most was the conflict. Your
conflict in that scene was. It was just I don't
know what your preparation was, but I I almost feel
like I could reach your thoughts sitting in the pews
watching you Um. And it was interesting because when we
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would you know, Um, Trey Haley, the director, Trey Haley, UM,
who I had an amazing time with. And I really
loved Trey Um when he would stay cut because it
was a huge cast. We were, you know, it was
a wedding and we were in church and you have
a lot of extras. People were entertaining and last theme
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having a good time. But I would always I would
see you, Anthony, fight in for that space to recreate
what you had to do in your next take, right,
And Um, as a producer, you know, I just you know,
went to the other producers and to Tray and I
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was like, you know, we just really have to after
we say cut, we have to really silence everyone for
you to be able to have that space. And well,
you said, was it difficult? Yeah, I mean, because I
mean there were at least I mean, including the crew,
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there had to be at least fifty people in that space. Yes,
I remember, I remember exactly when you're talking about. I
tried to when I'm on set, I tend to bring
all of my energy and I tried to let the
energy of the set remain wherever it is. If for
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a character that I have to be really intense for,
I tend to step away, separate myself so I can
maintain that space so it feels organically natural when I
go back into all right, everybody, let's go back to
one and we're starting to get going again. I don't
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want to have to take myself from jumping around and
playing on set to now having to bring it all
back in because for me personally, that feels inorganic when
I'm when I am, when I am in a character
and I'm on set, I make sure everything that I'm
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doing is about that character, and I tried everything I
can to stay in that moment regardless of the distractions
around me. So there are times where where you saw
when what you're talking about, if it gets too unruly
for me and I feel like I can't stay in
my space. Then I just removed myself. I've had I've
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had people on sets laugh at me because because I
am I'm too focused, you know, with the air quotes.
But that's my job. You didn't bring me there to
uh to party with everybody and two waste time. You
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brought me there to do what it is that I
do as an actor. And that just that started when
I was in college. Just uh. I never got on
stage and a play and tried to make my other
cast members laugh. I've been in place with people where
they think it's funny to try to They call it
breaking somebody on stage. So we're up here in a play,
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you sink or swim together, So I'm not. I'm never
going to be the actor that's going to purposely try
to get up and the other person that I am
doing this dance with try to throw them off their
game because if they sink, I sink. That doesn't never
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made sense to me, so that just carried over when
I moved myself to Hollywood. I'm about the business. Like
we can be friends and we can joke and play,
but when it comes time to do business, I'm about business.
So you on most sets that I'm on you won't
see a bunch of really bad outtakes of me just
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joking and yucking it up and and just taking the
time for Granted, there's too much making, there's too much money,
there's too much energy, there's too much time that goes
into this process. So I'm very serious about that aspect
of it. For myself. I mean, I have a high
respect for your work ethic. It is so professional focus
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and you do have a respect for your other colleagues
that you're working with, like you know, um, and you
know as a producer, time is money. We don't have
time to play games on the set. Um. I just
wanna just throw out a couple of credits here from
my actors. I always stressed them to go to IMDb
dot com, and um, we can start. I mean, I
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have The Preacher's Son and The Man in three B
which is currently on Netflix. Um, Chariot, Oh my God,
Grey's Anatomy. Um single Ladies, which is one of my
favorite shows. I think that's where I first Yeah, um
VH World jas I was one of the joy there. Yes,
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that's a great show. Um. We have The Client List,
which was another one of my favorite shows. House, Oh
my god. Um, ladies and gentlemen, I want you to
listen to these credits and the work in c I
s um the Porter, which was a short m um.
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And then let's talk about Star Trek Enterprise, because um,
just a huge franchise within itself. How did you land
that role? I auditioned for a man named Ron Serma.
He was the casting director who had cast I know
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he at least cast Voyager. I don't know if he
had cast the other series, the other Star Trek series.
But I initially went in for a role on Star
Trek Voyager and I didn't get it. But and that
was three years prior to me getting Star Trek Enterprise.
I didn't get that, but that started a relationship with
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myself and Ron Serma, the casting director. UM, maybe a
year or so, I feel like it was later. I
go in for another role and I didn't get that role. Again,
this is Star Voyager, and I would not in that
second audition, I would not have even been on the
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show physically. I would have been a video transmission of
a character and and that would have been it for me.
And I was told that I didn't look alien enough
because I was supposed to play Tuvok's son, who is
the most of your fans. If any of them are
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Star Trek fans, they will know him as the only
black Vulcan that the franchise has featured. And and when
I didn't get that one, uh, you know, I'm still
auditioning and going on the journey of the actor's journey
as you do in Hollywood. And then they bring me
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in for which was my third time auditioning for that
casting director. They brought me in for the untitled Star
Trek series. It was nearing the end up the run
of Voyager, and they brought me in for the role
that I got, Travis Mayweather. Apparently they had audition fifty
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other guys. They had been looking high and low, and
when I got the initial call, I went in, did
my best and felt great and I left. I was
hosting at the time. I was hosting a kid's adventure
show called The Awesome Adventures, and they had taken me
up to the Bay Area, up to um northern California,
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from where I am. I'm down in southern California. They
took me up to northern California and while I was there,
my manager at the time called and said they wanted
to do a test deal for me. Um they were
they wanted me to come back. Now, I that was
only the second time I had ever done a test,
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so I didn't know what it entailed. The first time
I did one, I didn't know what that was. The
first time I did one was on a soap opera
in New York, and that I didn't know what I
was doing in that one. UM, while I was gone,
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they said they're gonna get the deal together for you
and they'll have you come back. You're gonna meet I
eventually met Rick Berman and Brandon Braga, who were our
exact producers and our creators of our series, with Jim Conway,
who was our director. Um. They brought me in and
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the test went great. I when I was I remember
going over with Rick and Brandon, and as we were
walking over, they said, Rick, in his very dry humor, said,
you see, you're the only one we're bringing. Don't screw
this up. And I was like, I nervous, right, I
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just ye had no pressure. Thanks, I'm the only one, okay.
But I didn't know what that meant. I didn't realize
that most times for tests they will have five six However,
however many choices there are, and you are one of
a group. I didn't realize I was the only one
that they were testing at that time. And how many
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people were in the room when you were testing when
I had When I eventually went in, there were twelve,
I want to say, twelve to thirteen men and women
in suits sitting, Uh sitting, Yeah, I mean very it was.
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It was very unnerving. I can say now because I
because I did it, but uh, just walking in and
they looked pleasant enough, but many of them had their
arms crossed, had their legs crossed, and it was you
feel like, Okay, I'm in the hot seat right now,
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and it's you do have an Ally in that room,
and that Ally is the Catholic director. Yes, but again
I didn't know that. And when you when you, I
didn't think about the severity of what I was stepping into.
I didn't I don't know what Star Trek is. Everybody
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in the world where watch Star Trek. Everybody in the
world knows what Star Trek is. Even if you don't
know any of the series, you don't know who the
people are, you do know what Star Trek is. So
I was familiar with it, but I had no idea
that my life was going to be impacted the way
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that it was. So for me, I'm just a broad
actor who's going into this room job. I do know
that if this goes well, then I'm gonna probably be
working for a while. Because everybody, even in just going
in for the audition, every series except for the original
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series had gone seven years, so they expected when I
went in for the test, I had signed a seven
year deal. And wow, okay, if you get this going
from being a broke actor, that's what I was gonna
say talk about. I mean, I don't want you don't
have to be specific specific, but I do know going
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from a broke act to a seven year deal on
a franchise like Star Trek, that money was you. It
was you know what. Um God blessed me with that one.
I definitely give I give God the credit because I
was able to pay off my student loans within a
few episodes of of our first season through episodes. You
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He didn't say the season, you guys, He said the
few episodes. Yeah, No, it was honestly, that was the
That was the most fun that I had ever had
in my life. And I didn't know I didn't know
what I was doing. You know, I'm from the block
in Indiana. Most of the people that are from where
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I'm from are either in jail or dead or existing
until they die. So when you tell me you're going
to give me the amount of money I was making
every eight days, and I can do it legally, I'm
doing whatever it is that I want to do. Yeah, uh,
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some fun. I had some fun. I had some fun,
but and I know it wasn't just fun. I was
able to I was able to buy my mom a car.
I was able to help out my siblings. I did
things as the oldest boy and kind of the man
of the family. I did the stuff that I needed
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to do, and I was able to do it as
an actor, which surprised a lot of people, because there's
a lot of people that were the naysayers and you're
never gonna make it and all of that stuff, and
you know, and they say that until you do. So
it shifted. It shifted my reality, and it let me
know that all of the hard work, when you hear
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the stories, your hard work will pay off. Your hard
work will pay off well. I was in Hollywood for
five years before I got Enterprise, and I was blinding.
Had I had three jobs when I got on enterprise.
I was doing I was working as a hotel security
guard for the Hyatt Regency um Hills or the Hilton,
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the Hilton Hotels and Woodland Hills. I was doing market
research for a company. And I don't know if I
should give the aim of them, but I was doing
market research for this company where I would call people
and say, Hi, this is Anthony, and I'm calling on
behalf of Pepsi. We'd like to get you to come
in and do a survey. We'll pay you twenty five
(26:12):
dollars to answer some questions and sit and tell us
whether you like Pepsi zero or Pepsi one. You know,
stuff like that. Um and I was an m C
and and I was an m C and DJ for
bar and Bot Mitzvah's. Those those are the three jobs
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that I had when I got on enterprise. So I
was you know, I've been working since since I ran
away when I was nine years old, like I've been
working my life. Yeah, So this was the first time
going in for an audition a skill set that God
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blessed me with. Uh, it changed my life. I've found
my calling. I found my passion and then I actually
put in a hell of a lot of work. They
said it takes ten thousand hours. Well I put in
my ten thousand hours and back thing. So it makes
sense that I would things would start coming. You know,
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it's staying, it's staying the course. And that's what I
would tell your listeners. Absolutely, stay your course, no matter
how unnerving it gets, no matter how treacherous the terrain,
Stay your course, stay your course. If I am nothing,
I am absolutely an example that perseverance wins. Because, as
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they'll read in my book, I've overcome a lot to
be able to sit here and even talk to you
about this. Being abused when I was younger, being molested
when I was younger, like i've been through with Tracy.
So what I would tell you you know that, But
your listeners don't know me. They don't know anything about me.
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They don't know like I'm not just from enterprise. I
worked my ass off to Yes, you did, and that's
why I mean, honestly, that's what makes you one of
my favorite actors is your perseverance and the resilience that
you have. It is unbelievable. I can't wait until the
book comes out, So, um, I have three minutes, and UM,
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I gotta squeeze a couple of things in one. I
just wanted to say, you're perfect example when I tell actors,
I know you want the role, but when you are
remembered by a casting director, that is so powerful. And
that is an example of that because that casting director
remembered you to bring you in on that. Right second,
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I just want you to tell our audience in terms
of you know, um, you taking control of your career
whatever it is that you are able. You know that
you want to share with us now some of the
checks that you're working on or you know. Um. One
of the things that I did want to ask is
why did you feel that that was important for you?
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Because as an actor, that's a career within itself, you know,
and and the way you work that's enough. But it's
you know what I you you're saying, why was it
important for me to start doing other things? Yeah? In
terms of your projects, well, um, do you your upcoming
projects that you have? When what are you working on?
The uh? What I'm working on right now? Uh? Well,
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the family business, as you know, even though I didn't,
that is how you and I met. I didn't end
up getting the role that I got when you and
I met, but they did, uh. They did bring me
back in after doing The Preacher Son and the Man
in three B with them. They wrote a character for
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me that is going to be premiering in the second season.
I mean the character was already yes, yes, you will,
you will see it. His name is brother Elijah. You
will see him in the second season. And I'm working
opposite k J. Smith, who I just adore. She's fantastic.
I love kJ and people are going to see a
(30:17):
completely different character. I've never played a Muslim character in
my life, and my take on it is I do
my work, so I can't wait for people to see this.
I'm in either nine or ten of the episodes of
their second season. They gotta to pick up. So production
(30:37):
has shut down because of the coronavirus that we are
we are about to start. Whenever we come back, I
believe we'll be getting into episode ten and I'm in
them in those ten. Um, So we've got some for you, Anthony.
I'm gonna call you back because um, I want you
(30:59):
to come back on this show. I want to talk
about when you come back. I want to talk about
my animation, Yes, my animated and I also want to
talk about go ahead throughout. My graphic novel that I
had years ago is being turned into an animated series.
And if your fans know, if your fans watch the Oscars,
(31:22):
if your listeners watch the Oscars this year, they will
remember hair Love, the short film that one best us,
that one best picture. The people, the people that are
behind hair Love coming out Lion Forge Animation, they are
the people that have licensed my graphic novel. So really,
(31:45):
oh my god. Yeah, you and I aren't done talking.
I've got so much no, no, no, I gotta I'm
gonna extend another invitation to come back on the show.
Um um, you know. I mean, I don't know when
we're gonna be in the studio again. But I just
want to say, you are a true inspiration, Anthony, and
(32:06):
when people read your story, they're gonna be even more
in love with you. So you are a true example.
I said today in my Give Love. Are you an
American or you American? Because that's what my teaching to say.
You are an American. You persevere and you come out shining,
(32:32):
stellar work, stellar individual. Can't wait to see you in
real life and catch up and chill. I look forward
to it. Thank you, thank you, Thank you Anthony so much.
Thank you, and have be safe, be healthy, and note
that we are going to get through this. I know
(32:53):
you know that, so I'm gonna get through it. And
good luck on your and good luck on the writing.
Thank you, thank you. Oh can I tell people how
to follow me on social media? Absolutely? Please? Mr A Montgomery,
m R A M O N T g O M
E er y. So it's m R A. And then
(33:13):
my last name that's on Twitter, that's on Instagram, that's
on Facebook is Anthony Montgomery. I think it's eighteen my
Facebook fan. All right, well you you heard that. Listeners
follow Anthony go to Netflix while we're inside bench on
his work, and we're gonna have him back so we
(33:35):
can get some more insights and he's gonna drop someone pearls.
Thank you so much, Anthony, and you know I appreciate
love you, and I'm blowing and sprinkled dust. Thank you,
got it. I'm wrving it all over. I appreciate you
and thank you so much, thank you, And now it's
time forgive love. I have this teacher in elementary school
(33:59):
that used to say, are you an American or are
you american't? And I used to say, I am an American.
It's so easy right now with the coronavirus to give up,
but we can't give up. We have to stay motivated,
we have to stay positive, and we have to hold
(34:19):
a vision that we're going to get through this and
when we do come out of it, we're going to
be stronger and better. And one of the things that
I'm noticing is the humanity and community that has risen
from this crisis. And as human beings, we should be
(34:41):
concerned about each other in our neighborhoods if people don't
have The other day, I ran into my neighbor and
she said, if you don't have paper, towels and toilet paper,
please come to my house because I've stalked my basement.
That's what we should be doing right now. We should
be coming together as a country, as a community and
(35:02):
helping each other. And most importantly, we should abide by
the c d C rules, which my granddaughter Soria is
going to tell you. So you should stay six feet
away from people or more and wash your hands, keep
your hands off your face, don't put your hands in
(35:23):
your mouth and make sure if you're sick, you shouldn't
go outside. Excellent Soria and she's seven. I need everybody,
everybody come together. Let's kill this virus, or at least
try to control it in some way and save ourselves.
(35:46):
Thank you, thank you, thank you for joining us on
the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore. I look
forward to our next Spirited podcast. Thank you,
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