The Spirited Actor - Jamie Hector

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me
Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and
TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transition to
a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New
Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Thomas.
I audition every rapper from Biggie's Balls to Tupac, and

(00:24):
I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help
transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from
Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Ye from The
Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons, to name a few. I
also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel

(00:45):
I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director,
I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an
acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in
that room. Now. I know. I know actors want to
get the job. I get that, but being remembered by
casting director that is powerful. Meditation of the day. Creativity

(01:06):
cannot be commanded only obeyed. Carol Mobli. Actors can experience
a great deal of stress in their lives. There are
ups and downs. That may cause actors to go on
an emotional prolocoaster, but it's only temporary. You can occupy
your time and energy on perfecting your craft. When you

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are going through those trying times, remember that life has
a way of preparing us for things, and it's not
always going to be easy. The harder times brings strength
and character to our personalities. I will not let the
hard times affect my spirit and my journey. Welcome to

(01:50):
the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore, and I
can honestly say that my guest today is one of
my favorite, hands down favorite actors in the universe of actings. Yes,
I'm giving it to you. I am. Ladies and gentlemen,
push your hands together from Mr Jamie Heck the Yeah,

(02:16):
that is the truth. Hey, Tracy, thank you so much.
You know and worked with so many actors, so for
you to say that about me, and he said, we
got history, I can't wait to talk about it. Well,
you know, I don't believe that twenty eight minutes is
enough time to talk about everything, but I do want
to start at the beginning. So let's start at the beginning.

(02:41):
So we're gonna take our audience through it. I was
casting a commercial for as the United Nico College Fund,
and and we were looking not only for actors, but
actors who could jump hurdles. So you know this this
business is about relationships, right, because we know relationships is

(03:02):
the network to life. I'm in school at b MCC,
but I built a relationship with a gentleman at the
front desk at forty Life. Yet I think that's where
the casting was, and um, him and I we connected.
He took my page and number down and said, listen,
I did it, stylet I'll text you if there's any
casting going on ahead. So that's what he did. Came

(03:23):
and crashed the audition, right, yeah, right, So I walked
into the room. Back to me, I'm sitting in class.
I think it was chemistry, and I leave and I
walk into the room and it's the casting area is
filled with men that are probably ten fifteen years my senior,

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and UM, they were like, you know what, young blood,
this is not for you. We're casting at this age range.
I mean, they're casting at this age ring. And then
I turned around to leave, walk out the room, and
you say, we don't know what we're looking for yet,
so excuse me to have a seat, and I sat down.
So then I get into the room and as I'm
in there, you tell me you just said, look, look

(04:07):
at the camera, give a stretch, stretch, say your name,
et cetera, in which I did, and by the time
I left, you called me and then you said, can
you jump hurdles? I didn't know what I heard. It
was right that night she said, you said you got

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the part. So that night I go to the park.
I reached out to a coach that I knew, and
I go to the park and I said, I need
to know how to jump hurdles. I need to understand form,
I need to understand the whole process because I was
a runner, right. So we went to the park, Lincoln
Terrorist Park, and there were no hurdles and me, obviously
it was late at night, so we jumped a big

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green garbage cans and our benches. This is how I
trained the entire night until the morning. And then you
reached out and said, listen, Spike Lee is the one
that is directing this. We're shooting in Atlanta, and you
have a flight at such and such time. And then
we get down there and come to find out this
entire commercial was on the start of Edward Moses' career

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as a hurdler and the best right and what he
did when he was younger in the way that he
trained was by jumping grain garbage cans in his community.
So it worked out perfect for me. And once I
got to Atlanta, Tracy, you remember, I ran from six
am two six pm and Sunday. Understood the jargon. Understood

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the in terms of you know, not drinking water, chewing
on I mean starbursts, sipping on water, stretching the proper
way to approach this thing. But that was some some
serious work and that got to you because you really
believed right open to the room and there was something
that I decided to send that tape further. Yeah, well,

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you know, the thing is is that at that time
my assistant was Ayana, and Ayanna also was my spy,
so she was we would go outside. I would have
her go outside and we would know the people. We
didn't have you know, the Apple phones back then, but
we had you know, BlackBerry or Sky tell those people

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who were on their phones, people who were socializing. And
it really started because there were actors that I was
specifically calling for auditions knowing that they were going to
be great, but they weren't doing the work. They were
just sort of taking it for granted that they were
getting called in by me all the time. But it
was like, you should want to get better each time

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I see you, you know. So I was like, just
go outside and see what people are doing. So I,
Yanna knew that people were outside saying to you, you
should just go. You don't have a chance, know, And
so that's why when I was like, they don't tell
him what to do, I was like, no, And I

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saw you getting up and you were I know, you
were young. And the thing that I saw, I saw
you defeated. I saw in that moment how easy it
is for people to just set out your dreams and
sap out your spirit and encouragement and if you fall

(07:29):
into that, you'll be them. Because they were miserable, right,
absolutely discouraging you, and you ended up. And the other
thing is they had so much more experience than you.
Forget about the age. A lot of them had so
much more experience, and you walked out with absolutely And
you know, the thing about it also is entering into

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a place where you know, at least you think you
don't belong right an agent. I didn't have representation, I
had not write. All I had was drive, ambition and
will you know, to not be defeated. But as soon
as you get into the room, people that understand sports,
you know exactly how to trick somebody out the game,

(08:10):
right that first step when it comes down to track,
you do it once twice and other person is over there,
and and and and they run at a full start.
Right that the same thing when I come into the
wound is what they applied to me. But that God
for you that knew that that's what was going out
there to set some spot the game. And that's actually

(08:33):
a whole of the story that I, Yann and I
can talk about because you know the things that people
would do, you know, and and it's like, you know,
that's how you can sort of vet through who's serious
about their craft and who's not. And that's the thing
that when you did come in the room, I was like,
I yan and I thank God, thank God. You say
thank God, thank God, And Spike immediately loved you. There

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was no callback. You've got casts, I mean right away,
jac you I mean, well you know again, right jay Z,
like you don't know, you think somebody's doing your favor sometimes,
especially when you don't feel like you belong, and especially
when seasoned actors or whoever it is attempt to discoverage you.
Like you said, you feel like, okay, I'm she's calling me,

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but she did she get the number right? That was
my first time, my first time on an airplane. Okay,
that's my I think that might have been even my
first time leaving you. No, that was my first time
leaving the state. But that was my first time on
a flight. And then it's like you go work. That
was my introduction to hotels. That was my introduction to

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just the way that an artist lives in order to
create right and again, if not for you doing your
due diligence and just being just knowing how people think.
I've heard those stories before from friends that don't prepare
or are not confident in their work, discourage other people

(10:02):
before they could even get into the room. They feel
like that's part of the game because they didn't do
the work. They didn't prepare. Well, thank god for people
like thank god for you Dracy. Seriously, you said that
you understand I'm time to tell you, yeah, I do.
I do and for so many lives that are being touched.
I don't go anywhere right now, I don't meet someone
that does not know or have not been touched by

(10:24):
the Spirited actor by Tracy. I'm talking about from Buston Rods.
I'm talking about from Eve, I'm talking about from Shantina.
I'm talking about your name, you name it. So many
people around the world now that i'm traveling, know you
and know how you are serious about this work and
how you poured into their lives and you started with
me from the jump, and I'm grateful for that, Tracy, Seriously, Oh,

(10:46):
I'm so grateful for your words. I'm it's when you
are unconsciously doing the work because you love it. It
becomes jarring sometimes to think about the reach because I
go back to like seven, you know, and you know

(11:06):
I got it to New York and eight four, so
I mean eight three. So it's like it just blows
my mind. And then what's really touching and heartwarming is
the fact that we're still talking today. You know that bond,
and and for you to be able to share that
you know with this audience and just reconfirmed to me

(11:29):
who unconsciously goes through my life like what you need?
You know, you know because right away, Yeah, I appreciate
love that I really do. Absolutely it's true. And we're
all grateful, I think. I mean I speak for myself
for everyone that I do meet and are truly grateful
based on a spirited actor and what you have been

(11:50):
able to give the people. It's a powerful thing, you know.
Thank you. I am going to levitate all day to
for me. So I want to thank you for those
words I do want because you have such a high
regard and respect for the art the artistry, can you

(12:15):
share with our audience, like um, being an actor? What
does that mean to you? What is that encompass in
your world? Being an actor storytelling? For me, it's making
people feel the way that I feel when I are,
the way that I felt when I watched a film,
and I would change my life. A perfect example of

(12:37):
a film is Glory. We're talking about UM kids being
smarter today and more political than their parents. For me,
I mean I probably became patriotic, more patriotic or somewhat
when Obama became president, but it was glory when he
was that I would not carry your flag, and you

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know he ended up can get up. But all that,
all of those characters went through that changed my life
and it made me feel a different a certain kind
of way. It affected me differently, and it makes me
tell those kind of stories again that will affect generations
to come, My kids and their friends, right, it will
help on their lives or spark that thing that will

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transform their lives, and it means a lot. And I
realized that it takes a lot of hard work and
dedication to develop characters and stories and write in order
to be able to put it out there on that platform.
So acting for me and storytelling and it's transformation, it's
really diving in. It's having a will to really pushed

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past the mark, you know, and understanding. Also, nobody really
care about the work that you put in. It's about
the results. So for me, it's like in the back room,
just execute and then just let it land on his
feet if it can. There's a lot of people that
do the work right talk about the work that they do,
but don't really. I realized no one really cares about
that except for the artists, you know, except for the artist,

(14:05):
and she just like, how did you get there? But
you know, Michael Jordan's one, and then he said he
shot a lot of like a thousand days and his
practice method in it. Last dance just came up, but
nobody really knew the kind of work that he put in.
Bo he got there. Now it's just like, oh, this
dude was a beast exactly closed doors. You know, so

(14:29):
earlier I had Billy boom on man all eyes on
me from well, yeah, but one of the things that
we were talking about, because I feel that you are Um,
you do the work I mean, and if you were
not inspired by hearing the story of the commercial and

(14:51):
you going out and jumping over these green garbage cans
unbeknownst to you, that that was the truth of that experience, right,
That's why I was so authentic. UM. But UM as
an actor, UM, what type of relationship do you like
to have with directors when you're working? Well, the kind

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of relationship I like to have with directors is a walk.
A walk, you know, it's a it's a walk from
if you understand Prospect Park or Central Park, it's a
walk around Prospect Park station on how they see the
world that they're trying to create. It's difficult to do
that with television or stream because we move kind of fast, right, well,

(15:39):
not streaming because we well, yeah, but I'm filmed. You
can take a walk, you can have a conversation. You
can for me learn exactly what the director wants to
convey right from the clothing two mindset to behavior right

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and from what is the what is it that the
director would like to talk about it and would like
to see this character without fully taking away my truth, right,
because I'll work on the character and I'll start from
my truth and understand that there's a lot going forth.
But I want to hear what the directed starres are right.
And there's some of so many directors that is so

(16:22):
good at not getting in your way as an actor.
There's so many of them that are really good at
not getting in your way where they just listen to
you and even if they disagree, talking until you come
to the place that they feel comfortable. It's like right there,
right there, let's go, let's shoot. He's right what I

(16:44):
want or she's right, well her, I think I got
a long walk and long talk with the directors and
just converse about the story. You know, we might come
from two different places and not me at that thing.
So we definitely got to just chop it up right.
And I just think that's so important because a lot
of my conversation on the podcast with casting directors that

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you know um has been about um, the work and
actors really doing the work. Um um. I always say
the actors were not looking for readers, We're looking for characters,
and characters have characteristics. They're doing something right. So, um,
how important is the work in terms of you know,

(17:29):
going to classes, having a coach, um, you know, really
carving out that time to devote to your craft. I
think it's everything. I think it's everything. You know, I
believe in two different I noticed more, but I believe
in the real person and the character person right right right,
So I believe that you for some people, you can

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just give them the material. They will memorize it. It's
the real person, it's part of their life. They go
on camera and then their uni so it comes out.
But then it's time to actually put in that work
and transform into something else that's not you, right, someone
else that is totally opposite of you. Behavior, psyche um,

(18:14):
intrinsic value. Everything is just different from view. So once
you realize that that person sleeps differently and each differently
and walks and talks and thinks differently than it's your dude,
dial it. It's your job to actually live it out.
The value of the work in that to me is

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important because you want to do justice to that person
and to the people that are that person with police officer,
whether it be uh uh street from in Baltimore, whether
it be um vampire right or whatever it is, whether

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it because in Obama h you want to basically do
to that person without taking any shortcuts. So and that
takes work, and it takes detailed work and just time.
And if you know it took to two story, could
take just reading a whole lot of books and allowing
me to soak in on you um without trying to mimic,

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but is really understanding that way of thought, the way
the person thinks, and that will drive the way they behave.
So it's very important to me the work, Yeah, work,
the time that you take with not giving much time
now and never really going to put inflections on words

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I don't think. And that's how the person would say
it is how the person would say it. You know,
it's basically that thing to drive it right, It's important.
Only way you would get to meet it by actually
doing the work right. And I just want to say
you in the work in the wire, uh, Marlowe mad

(20:04):
your name wasn't even jad Hector anymore after the time, right,
I would say, oh my god, have you seen j
Hector on there? Like? Yeah, Wow? How transforming was that
role for you? It was transforming? It was it was

(20:24):
you know what it was. It was fun, nice, It
was fun. And it was also a way for me
to not to to you know, I think it's a
part of all of us to allow the world to
not put anybody in any profession, whether it be legal, legal,

(20:47):
in a box and say this is the way that
they're supposed to act. Yeah, this is the way they're
supposed to be, you know, this is the way that uh,
if you want to put him in a box of
the duck or as sociopath, this is the way that
they're supposed to move. No. I had fun working on it.
I had fun pulling up photos of images of Egyptian kings,

(21:12):
right and my wall and just their their picture speaks values,
excerpts from books of power and force, and just ways
to actually manipulate the people. He thinks differently. Yeah, really,
thinks different from me, completely differently, right, how he eats,

(21:37):
wakes up, what his home looks like, the way he
approaches people on the street. Um. You know, I was
having a conversation with my guys the other day and
you know, they were like, you know all this stuff,
how do you apply it? And I was like, you
really put it to work, right. So, Um, when I
would wake up in Baltimore, I would hit the streets, uh,

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and I would walk to the pier and I would
attempt to go as character. So as that character, I
would approach people that later on in the day I
had to go to work, you know. Um, so I
would just approach a young lady with that level of authority,

(22:23):
or walking to a store in order food with that
level of authority, which is not me, you know, like
our lovels of respect and people. But you know, you
just put it out there. Um. And that's what I
did with that character, and I would fortunately it worked, uh,

(22:44):
understanding that he was a different human being. I mean, look,
I mean, you know, I don't know what it's like
to put a couple of bodies and row houses, right,
I don't know what it's like to order a hit.
I don't know what it's like to kill a young
lady liked or yeah, or even manipulate those in high

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power right strategic can take over like the world that
has no respect for life and political on the streets,
you know, the value systems are different. It's something that
you actually delve into when you're eating material and then
you do the work and it's and it's that's what

(23:29):
was fun about it though, Yeah, I mean it just
sounds like I think the great part about acting is
for you guys to get under someone else's skin and
and be them and it's like it's not me, it's them,
you know, like it's just so much fun. I can
only imagine how fun to play that, um and what

(23:51):
a great exercise to really um give life to the
character outside of the set, to really live you know this,
you know, going like you said, going into the store
and just living that. Oh my god. Because they don't
have a script, so they're authentic with fairy actions whether

(24:15):
they like it or not. This is right. Yet nobody
knows who you are, so you have three main who
ever want to be right. You know, it might be
a little bit difficult for um don Cheeta is walking

(24:38):
up and do that, right, But those beginning stages beautiful,
beautiful times to actually really explore, really transform without being
judged or watched. You. No, you can be that person
on the train that has schizophrenia, right, No one can

(25:01):
be yourself, you know. You can have a conversation with
yourself and to yourself responding, come back, sit down, But
you can do all of that on the train. Wow
you yet that? I mean that literally just went through
me because there is such a freedom in that and

(25:21):
the fact that you've been able to carry that flip
with you, you know, because again it would be great
to have that as a part of that exercise. But
now people people know you, Jamie Hecktor, people will know you,
so you can't play anymore in that way. You gotta
get a private It's a safe space now to go

(25:41):
and creative, to go and embarrass yourself and don't feel
like people are judging you or watching you and waiting
for you and saying that's really him, but that's really hers.
To create and embarrass yourself and falling your face and
the yeah yeah, Well, first thing is I told you

(26:03):
twenty eight minutes was gonna fly by twenty eight minutes
have we have three minutes and I won't want it
all for you to give your words of encouragement or
pearls Um. I do want to extend another invitation to
you because I do want to at least incorporate in
those about moving mountains. You are my favorite actor in

(26:25):
the artistry of acting and being definitely and as the
human being you, the way you have given back and
consistently give back is to be praised as well. So
let my audience know about moving mountains well, moving mountains first,
Moving Mountains nyc dot org. The website you can definitely
get information on the site that we developed that right,

(26:50):
Moving Mountains nyc dot org. And what we focus on
is developing skills, talents and abilities in the arts while
building character. Four kids between the ages of eight in
one and you know that's really it right there, right
We are focused on giving them a platform, budding talent

(27:10):
that may know they have the talent, that may not
know that they have the talent dance, vocal, drama, cinematography,
a place to come and create bill be around like
minded individuals um that are inspired, inspiring them to move forward.
And I'm all hands on the deck. Also because I
believe in community development, and I believe in you know,

(27:34):
making sure people have access. For me personally, I studied
at these schools that were very, very expensive. Because they
were so expensive, Um, I wore the same clothes every day.
I mean that's a fact, like I would see me
because I always turned sneakers over the sneaker king and
I love sneakers. Wardrobe was crazy. And then I went

(27:54):
from then to wearing the same black leather jacket, same
Nico College ch Jersey blue Farmers um jeans to school
every day because my mind transformed from even caring about
the way I looked two more so caring about what
I can create and deliver, right, and so everything changed.

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So but it was expensive. Two reasons why I happened
is because I couldn't afford closed no more, because I
was they were getting on my money right then. Um.
The second thing was I wasn't even thinking about clothing anymore.
I was more so thinking about developing, um something greater.
So to create this platform. So you know, young artists

(28:36):
that have family that would like to be involved, that
have no place to be involved, can come over here
for a lout of five year plan. Let me set
them straight. That's beautiful, and you guys need to go
to Moving Mountains NYC dot org and find out more
information and also how you can donate as well. Um,

(28:59):
I'm gonna I'm gonna add a part two. I know
I can reach out to Ali and throw out some dates,
but this has been an amazing, amazing conversation and I'm
so grateful that we could have it. Oh so in mind,
Tracy is you know what and the community, our community,

(29:21):
what we do is so blessed to have you. Seriously,
they one for me. I mean, it's crazy when I
people say since separations. I think everybody is one degree
of separation from everyone else if they know you. I
don't know. I'm a fact. I don't know Bill Billaman.
But I was walking into the CBS lot and he

(29:43):
was there and I looked at him and he looked
at me. Didn't really say anything to each other, but
I was funny because all I gotta do is dropping,
all right, all right for them, it's the truth, right,
you're dropping, you know, Tracy, Tracy mom, but oh oh
game changer. Right, community, I'm blessed and I actually know you.

(30:04):
You um you you just you plant seeds. You serve,
you give, and you provide even during this time, and
I just want to say thank you, Jasey, seriously, thank you,
thank you Jamie. I really really super appreciate of those
words that means the world, the world. Wow, I'm limitating

(30:28):
like i'm speech. I am, I am. It just makes
me stop and really think of just my whole life
in this business and where I started and how you know,
I got cocky and I believed in myself coming here
knowing two people with two hundred dollars and a one

(30:49):
way ticket. But I had a dream and anybody that
had a dream, I fully supported that, and so that
just became like you said, service and unconsciously it's how
gonna help? What can I do? You know? So thank
you for recognizing that I appreciate lovely. Uh well, this

(31:09):
is um. This is a very card warming and powerful
and now you guys see why he's my favorite, right yep?
See all right, So I am going to extend another
invitation to Jamie to come back on the show, and
I just want to thank him hard felt love, virtual
hugs and plenty of sprinkled us and he's gonna be

(31:34):
with us, So don't run away yet we have class
and session coming back up on the Spirited Actor Podcast
with me Tracy Moore. Welcome back to the Spirited Actor
Podcast with me Tracy Moore, and you're lucky we still
have Mr Jamie Hector with us, So we are now

(31:56):
going to with Spirit Actor alumni Leanne Motto, Halean Hey,
Drapie and co Hey Delisa Capri. So, ladies, we're gonna
read the scene which is entitled Dad's Funeral by lean Amato,
and I will read the slugline and the action, and

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then Jamie is gonna give you guys some nuggets of
curls and just Jim's Okay. Ready, interior funeral home night,
Casey sits heavy but still with tissue in hand, in
an almost vaking room with her father's body in front
of her in a casket. Her lifelong friend Veronica enters

(32:42):
the room and sees her sitting there a love. She hesitates,
but forces her way towards Casey. Hey, cass Cassie looks
up at her, her face goes blank, I'm so sorry.
I mean I would have come sooner, but just found out.
Cassie just nods her head. She says. Veronica tastes the
seat next to her. You don't need to say please,

(33:07):
I want to. There's an owards eerie silence. I mean,
you would have known sooner if you just pick up
the phone too, check on me for once. You're right,
I mean, I feel terrible. Yeah, I's so guilty. Please

(33:27):
you don't make this one about you. Ford has stays
lower in her seat silence when you have like no
idea what I didn't And it happened so fast I
didn't even have a moment to realize it. Mhm. I'm
exhausted me, but I finally had to let him go.

(33:53):
The one person that I really just needed to be there.
Was too busy to even know what was going on
for roadcast, I think said and when my mom passed
and you were out of town working, I understood. I
was understanding that this Like you didn't realize that you
didn't hear from me for a few days. I did.

(34:14):
I was so wrapped up in a bad thing. I mean,
I was too busy to realize anything going on around me.
But right, excuse Cathy looks at her. He left mhm again,
O good. Cassie puts her hand on the round of

(34:36):
his side. The convert I'm sorry. I know how bad
you wanted it to work. It's okay, her eyes ahead.
I mean your dad was my dad. I'm so sorry.

(34:57):
Mm hmm, it's okay. I mean he would tell me
to be easy on you. I'm really gonna I'm really
gonna need you know. I'm not going anywhere. Ronica wraps
her arms around Fassi and wholes see all right, I

(35:20):
am going to throw it to you, Jamie Hafter, beautiful scene. Yeah,
I mean it's so difficult to capture it on zoom,
you know. I mean only the reason why I say
that is because not from me, but just for the
two of you doing they only because we're relationship beings, right,
And I truly believe that it's the spirit that reaches

(35:41):
out and touches the other person. When it comes down
to actually having a scene moment with someone, it's like
reading what they're saying and what they're not saying. So um,
trying to capture something while you're separated and take achnology
is not um easy. So I pulled you guys were

(36:05):
doing the work that you you just did because obviously
it was um individual work that led you out here.
I mean, we're quarantined. You can't get together to rehearse,
you know, and even outside of a hearth and you
can't get together to the scene. One thing that I
do say, and I add to this is that mystery

(36:28):
is good. And I say mystery is good because real
memories that you guys created for yourselves, the real seen
before the moment, for it's seen before in terms of
the life of that character, you know, from birth and
subconscious to the conscious mind all the way up to

(36:50):
weave right now is important and you see it, right,
You see that for me and watching the mystery just
take place, like you don't have to say a word
until you're ready to talk. You don't have to move
until you're ready to move. And as an actor to

(37:11):
from what I'm seeing, is secure yourself meaning satisfied that
character's appetite. So I mean, you know, I really There's
there's a quote that I heard it one time ago
called get out of your own weight mm hmmm, and

(37:34):
that's in everything, right, yeah, And I feel like the
only way to be able to get out of your
own way whenever doing something like this is by absolute
preparation without preparation. So I love the team. I love

(37:57):
you guys just did the pain of losing someone evident
on your face based on here, And like I said,
mystery is good. You coming to this place right now
having lost someone also, which is somebody that you wanted
to build a life with they're gone, and through your pain,

(38:18):
you were able to actually see that. Even though you're
going through your pain with your father being dead and
having to deal with that, that's a pain that is
very difficult. I don't know if you guys ever lost anyone,
but I have, right, So it's a different kind of
pro hum, right, Tracy, it's a yeah, my dad him, Yeah,

(38:46):
it is. It's a different kind of cut, a cut different. Yeah.
And I also in high school was cheated on a
lost a young lady that I love. That's a different
kind of cut. You feel great, Um yeah, you know different.

(39:11):
It's just it's just you know, what makes you move
different mm hm. And so that's why mystery is good
because those things also you try to hide and you
just can't. So I'm just saying, well, I have to
say that I love the work. I appreciate what you
guys are able to do over zoom. It's really you know,
it's not easy, but it's just that those memories, keeping

(39:32):
realm memory for the character talking when you're ready to talk,
ready to move. I love that, love that. Yeah right,
that's what I would. Yeah, you feel some rush next moment,
but it's those breaths in between, and you forget that
in certain moments. But yeah, there's humans we're talking, ready
to talk, like you know, we may have a script,

(39:53):
but as humans, we're talking, ready to talking. If we're
talking we're not ready to talk, it comes out different,
you know, coloring that too, Yeah, I mean it really does.
Like I'll be driving in a car with someone and
we can go six to ten minutes without saying a word,
literally sitting next to each other, and then after ten
minutes you say a word and it's like you didn't

(40:14):
skip a beat. Seeing you feel like you have to
push it circumstances. But like you said, as humans talk
when we're ready to talk, m and I think that's
really important. And that all comes also from just real memories,
real history in here, in here that your heart is

(40:37):
connected to body is connected to that. I mean, I
guess walking into that space where I mean, will were
you that while the guide and you're supposed to be
her best friend family really to the point that she
knows you so well that she knows that the man left,
that you guys broke up without you even having a teller? Yeah,

(41:00):
who were you don't only really he probably because you
don't have a man now. I mean, this is Dawn,
you know, and now you feel left out. So you
did a little research, found out her father died, which
is your best friend king popped up. M h speak
to your character and she's selfish, you know. So I'm
saying all that to say that is good. I mean
I enjoyed it. Wow, well, we enjoyed your comments and

(41:26):
and just there was just so much to digest. And
I pray that everyone wrote this down or recorded in
some way because there's some good stuff there. I just
want to thank you again, Jamie Hector, so heartfelt. Man
made my day, my week, my twit Sonday, my day trade.

(41:50):
Thank you and thanks for I know how much you
love your I mean the spirited actors, the alumni and everyone, right,
and you don't come before them. Yeah, no, that's a fact.
You know. Well I appreciate love that and then know
they love you now just as much as I t
So I just want to thank everybody put your hands

(42:12):
together for Mr Jamie Actor. Thank you Jamie, thank you
from back. He really gonna reach out to him and
let him know so. But we are going to have
him back on and next we are going to give
love on the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore,
and now it's time forgive love. Be inspired. As creative beings,

(42:37):
we constantly need inspiration. That could be in a book,
that could be art, music, watching a play, or sometimes
just simply walking through the park and taking in the
air and taking in the flowers and how the animals cohabitant.

(42:57):
Anything can inspire you. Inspiration makes you alive. There's a
freedom in creating. There's a freedom and being true to
your authentic self. Yes, in challenging times, there have been
the most amazing works that have been birth at it

(43:17):
and I don't know if that's word, but it's a
word today at birth of it in their times. Trust
in the year. There's going to be a plethora of
works coming out of this challenging, history changing moment. What
will you be inspired to create? As a creative being?

(43:40):
It is your responsibility to nurture and hone your craft.
Be inspired today, Be inspired by life, be inspired by
a cause, Be inspired by your truth. Thank you for
joining us on the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy
Moore or I look forward to our next Spirited Podcast.

(44:03):
Thank you,