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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me
Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and
TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transition to
a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New
Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Thomas.
I audition every rapper from Biggie's Balls to Tupac, and
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I realized the rappers and musical artists they needed help
transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from
Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Ye from The
Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons, to name a few. I
also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel
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I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director,
I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an
acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in
that room. Now. I know, I know actors want to
get the job. I get that, but being remembered by
a casting director do that is powerful. And now it's
time for meditation of the day. If we believe that
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tomorrow will be better, we can bear a hardship today.
So yesterday wasn't my most favorite day in the world. However,
through the challenges, I kept reminding myself that things are
going to get better. Sometimes we have bad days, you guys.
Sometimes we don't want to get on the phone and
talk to people. Sometimes you just don't want to walk
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around with what Spruce calls a kool Aid smile and
bouncing off the walls. You have to allow yourself, as
human beings and especially as actors, to feel what you feel,
because if you don't have the experience of feeling unhappy,
or feeling pain, or feeling love, you can't be authentic
in being that as an actor. So you have to
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have these experiences with yourself because you may never know
the character in which you're auditioning for is going through
a similar experience. And because you have been through that experience,
you have the wisdom, you have the foresight, and you
have the understanding. In order to be authentic as an actor,
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you have to have the experience, or at least have
knowledge of it to be that. So when you're experiencing
a bad day, allow yourself to go through it, because
the blessing is tomorrow and today for me is a
brand new day, a brand new experience, and I've allowed
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myself to let go of yesterday so I could be
present and happy for today. Today, I will allow myself
to feel unapologetically. Before we get started, I'd like to
remind everyone to look out for my new show, Inside
the Black Box. I'll be co hosting with the great
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Joe Morton. Will be on Crackle Network real soon. I'll
keep you posted. Welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with
me Tracy Moore. Sit back, you guys. We've had this
guest here before, but we have her back because we're
gonna be talking about her book. I am so excited.
I have so many questions. We may not be able
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to squeeze everything in this interview, so we'll have to
have a part two. But you are going to be motivated.
You are going to get off of this podcast and
start writing your film, your TV show, your web series,
whatever it is. Ladies and gentlemen, please put your hands
together for the CEO of TI Entertainment. She is an
international producer and founder. I was there day one for
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the Atlantic Pitch Summit, which is a phenomenal event that
she has yearly, and she's going to talk about that.
Ladies and gentlemen, please please put your hands together. From
my favorite person in the whole universe, Tie Johnston Shads,
put your hands together. Lay Welcome bet ladies and gentlemen.
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This is a book that you must get to pitch
or not to pitch. This is her book, Okay, and
we're gonna hold it up and we're gonna talk about
this throughout the whole entire show because you need this. Tie.
First of all, congratulations on a phenomenal book. Oh Tracy,
thank you so much that this makes me feel so good,
especially coming from you. You know our you know both
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of our world, and you know one has encompassed inside
of it, and so you know this book to me
is a part of the journey, but for more so
to make corrections for people who plan on embarking on
that type of journey. TI. When I first met you,
Tie is also a professor. Tie has a way because
she was at that time she was working with students,
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and I just remember the editing and I remember that
I didn't understand the process, but the way in which
you broke it down to me in layman's terms, And
that's why I love this book. Because is this book,
first of all, if you can read this book in
one day. We need to have a conversation. And I'm
not saying it because it's short. I'm saying because it
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just close. You never want to put it down, because
every sentence has a piece of information. Tie has written
a book that is so brilliant because she actually takes
you through the pitching process, which is something we rarely
hear about. Right, We hear about selling a project green lit,
get going into pre production, post production, but how often
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do we hear about the pitching process? Tie Man, You
know what, you just laid it down. That just gave
me chills almost because you know, it's such an intricate
part of the process with just coming up with, you know,
a and an idea, let's just start. You know, you
don't know what really you have to do to get
to the finish line. And the finish line is almost
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like never ending. You know, after it's green lit, you're
not done. It's just another uh stepping stone to get
to the next point. So, you know, I believe that
the pitching process is something that people they just don't
even look at at all. Tracy. It's almost like it's
not really talked about. But you know, they're talking about
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to pitch, you know, Oh yeah, I'm gonna pitch. I'm
gonna pitch. But I think that what people they have
to just really have to come to terms with is
that it's a skill. You know, it's not easy, it's
a skill. It becomes a part of UM sales as well,
it becomes a part of who you are. It becomes
a part of your um you know, everything that you're
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starting to live and breathe and how are you presenting
yourself as you know, a person that you that you
want people to take you seriously and you want people
to believe in what you have on paper, right, So
it's just one of those things that's like, how are
you going to really convince me to invest in you?
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And what I love about this book is I really
feel like you're talking directly to me. And that's the
thing that I love, ladies and gentlemen, is that it's
like having a real UM consultation with Tie. She's answering
every It's like she's in your head answering every single
question UM. And I love the fact that it's personalized
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right where it's not a textbook so to speak, but
we feel your opinions and your expertise in this. I
love the way you stress to people that the pitching
we don't talk about, which I think is a lane
that you have created for yourself, created for yourself. But
I love the professionalism in which you speak because people
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all day and I'm sure you've had this experience, right,
what people come to you to say I have the
best idea of the brilliant idea to you, to you,
and then you come in and say, well let me
see you here this idea and let's this I get there. Yes, yes,
totally exactly right, because there's so many other layers that
go with the pitching process, right. You know, people aren't
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thinking about projects that are marketable. People aren't thinking about
projects that could be fruitfully sellable in anybody as a
buyer in order for them to go and say, Okay,
I want to acquire this type of content and I
want to make money from it. They don't want to
acquire the content just because you know it's like, oh
this is pretty, this is your baby, even working on
this for life. No, they want to make sure that
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it stretches across a stream of audiences and how is
it that it could be presentable to have a connection
through other organizations or you know, merchandizing, and that's when
the whole I p you know, you're starting to talk
about that, and I mentioned that well, um which is property.
And so when you are discovering um, you know, concepts
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to create, it's a study to it. It's almost a science.
And that's also a part of the pitchings. So people
are starting to you know, the wise ones that are
getting it, that are starting to download specific information for
them to say, you know, gosh, I like writing about this,
but this is what's really sellable, right. That's Hollywood or
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doesn't matter where you are, because you can be anywhere
in the world mustering up content, but what is going
to be the content that is going to be most
appealing and then of course be able to make a dollar.
So the other thing I think that mad just applause, gratitude,
the fact that you started at the Atlantic Kitch Summit.
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What I felt and in reading the book also is
that you make people who are not connected or have
connections to the industry, you make it accessible, right, And
I think that a part of that is giving people
hope and and pursuing their dreams because I might live
in Missouri, right and think to myself, there's no way
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I could get to Hollywood, but I feel like and
asking you how many of these folks have you helped
and been instrumental in getting their projects developed on etcetera,
and shocked, Yes, you know, Tracy, you know that question
right there. That number is still like a discovery number.
I've been in the help and ministry for a very
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long time and there's been a lot of people that
have come through the pipeline of the Atlanta Pitch Summit
and they've done like wonders just you know, I'll include
this executives meeting executives right and them countering opportunities and
ventures together, also to an executive meeting a content creator
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or content creating, heating content creators. It's been a marketplace
for those that are looking to brand, looking to explore
and move forward with content and getting it sold obviously,
but also to us, the collaboration is what's so important
because that relationship building is what it's really about. And
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you want to know that this business you know, has
been you know, one of those businesses is like you
don't know where you're going, but right, relationships and you're
able to pick up the phone and even run something
across someone like a Tracy Moore, you know, or Will
Pack or ladies and gentlemen, I'm telling you, or will
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even you know, these these conversations don't have to be
wrong with it. They could be very sure. You know,
an executive last night and you know it was for
a project that just came across my desk on yesterday.
And this young lady she went out and she shot
like a whole Christmas special, right, I mean when I say,
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like on stage, real music, some secular music, some gospel music,
and it was incredible. And guess when she just did
it on like a drop of a dime. And she's
an actress and she has a you know, a really
good bear name that I feel like if somebody picked
it up, you know, it could do great. But guess
what timing is of the essence? Christmas is next? Wait,
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you're just getting this done now? You want to marry?
But I would think hex executives from my phone and say, hey, listen,
this just came across my desk, you know, please take
a look at it. The very first thing they want
to know is it's the music. Clear you understand what
I'm saying, So I yeahs if you have other things
that are you know, melted into your project that sometimes
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you don't even take consideration of. So you know, long
story short, you know, she might not get what she
wants for it, or she might have to present it
next season. It's not the brain project. But you go
back and post and you can you know, refix some
of that that make some modifications. But at the end
of the day, and she might be able to buy
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a really good dinner for she and her team. You
know what I'm saying, I mean, and that's it. I
can't take you that's true. You're right though you're not
gonna get back. You know, you said it's worth seven
hundred and fifty thousand on paper, right, but you know,
in realization, how much did you spend? Can you recoup
that costs? At the last minute, you're still trying to
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get clearance on you know, your music. So you know,
like I said, at the end of the day, we
might be able to buy you a really good dinner
and you take that on home with you and you
wear it when a smile. You know what to say
her on the next one. So tie, I was thinking
about this last night because again, um, this is one
of my favorite books. So I I went through it
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the first time, but the second time I'm going through
with my highlighter. Um. I wanted to just sort of
like do an exercise with you, right, Like I want
to be somebody coming to pitch to you, right I
and I came up with this idea of Spruce. I
feel like Spruce is gonna be like try why did
you say that idea? But I have to do with Spruce.
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I had this idea the other day. I'm coming to
you with my idea, and I want you to treat
me and show the audience like what process that you
would go through with me that you talk about in
to pitch or not to pitch. So I have this idea. Um,
I saw the shariff idea listen to Spruce trying to
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correct me. I had this idea that Um. The other
day the sheriff of Los Angeles said, please don't come
to l A. L A is like the purge and
we can't protect you. That's what it was on the news,
all on the news, right, l A is out of
control people. What's happening is people are going to restaurants,
Rodale Drive, following people home and robbing them, or it's
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just brazen. Right, So I have this idea, what if
a security company is behind all of these robberies, because
what is increasing now is security. Yes, people are now
hiring armed after unfortunate that we Clarence Avon's wife was murdered,
that community came together financially and now they have armed
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guards in there. But what if there's that one company
that is training these people to go out and rob
and you see how So I don't have this fleshed out,
but I think it's a great idea and a great movie.
What do you think? Well, you know, Tracy, something like
this kind of puts me in the mind a little
bit of when Fox came out with America's Most Wanted, Right,
we see a lot of BTS, which is behind the
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scenes coverage. Right. Maybe possibly that the security company will
operate more like a behind the scenes type of I
see it a little bit more as a series, and
it could be more of a testing type of project,
right that we have episodes that we kind of show
maybe something limited, you know, just to see could this work?
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And you never know, it could be something that we
work going towards with Fox. If you remember a long
time ago, I want to say about maybe four or
five summers ago. Fox tested out several shows, but they
were doing talk shows. They did Cocoa and ice right right, right,
um uh and his wife Nicole yep bo right. So
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and you can pitch it like that. But I also
like the fact that you have to show your comparables, right,
So you you show America's most wanted because we saw
a lot of behind the scenes footage with that. We
also saw one of those um should you what was
the name of that show there? Helped me out. This
was the towing Um Companies, right uh um, oh yeah,
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read there there you go, right, thank you for that.
So you you kind of show your comparables with that, right,
and then you have to look at the main premise.
What is the hook of this series? Right, So you're
gonna have to determine what that might be, and sometimes
that might take a little bit of research of talking
to security companies to know what is their steak. So
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you gotta know what is the steak, you know, what
is some of this high um concept that we're starting.
This is a high concept type of show. So there
there are things that we flush out first before coming
up and like solidifying this idea. But I love being
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able to perhaps contact some of these l A security companies,
even the ones that are just virtual on the phone,
right are they you know, how are they even upgrading
their systems? You know, Yeah, I've got to figure that
out at this point, right, how can you have more protection?
But I do like what you just shared, and so
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for the most part, I would like for you to
flush that out some context to me so that she
can produce it because TI one of the things that
I was thinking when I saw this news report is like,
we're talking huge celebrities here that are getting robbed and
broad daylight war at nighttime dere from the Real Housewives
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of Beverly Hills. They just crashed her place at nighttime,
held her by gunpoint, and praise Scott, they didn't kill
her of her children. But my thing is, if you
were of that level, your security is not a d
T or the ring. It has to be so that
that's can't that's not cheap, you know, it's definitely not cheap.
And you know, I I've even seen some different you know,
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highlights that have come across the internet. I saw this
one lady. She looked she was in a very nice
l a like neighborhood, and she was walking her child.
She was pushing the stroller. She opened up her gate.
Her gate was an electronic gate. It open. I'm talking
about like twenty feet size gate. You had great shrubberies
around there. She opened it, pushed your stroller in. Two
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men of color, let's say that they were walking past her.
She didn't even get a chance to even take the
baby after the stroller, get inside, click the clicker to
close the gate. They just went on right in the gate.
They looked at her, and all she did was give
up her backpack and they went on about their business,
you know, And it was just a shame to know this.
What what are really some of these things that are
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starting to increase? And maybe you can look at the
show with not being like high celebte but just people
in general. So there's all so many different things that
could go along with your show. Girlfriend, now you forget yeah,
but yeah, Tracy, it's just amazing how things are coming
together right unfold, but how they can happen with just
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everyday life situation. Now what I do love you guys,
and I know you guys are paying close attention to this,
the research and the due diligence that Ty is saying. Right,
I love the fact which I didn't even think about
because I hadn't gotten that far. But yes, there should
be research done about these security companies and how they
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function and you know, and what their costs are, because
those things can also add in the developing of this
story and the development and tie when these people come
you know, um through d MS, through emails, through referrals,
do you attach yourself as a producer or do people
ask you to attach yourself as a producer because you're
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an expert, Like I want someone like you to hold
my hand quote unquote and walk me through this process.
And I would offer producer credit to you because it
seems like you're there in the beginning of you know,
the the originality of the concept and the development of
the concept. You know, Tracy, A lot of people that
I have worked with over just the course of years,
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you know, I've worked with from conceptualization to delivery, right,
And I think comfortable with working with someone or having
that guidance from someone that is going to one tell
them the truth, not sugarcoat anything. Three make sure that
they're protected right and the material is also protected. For
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letting you know what your options are. You don't have
to have the first thing coming to you is like,
that's gonna be the only type of should I say,
offer that you ever received? Five knowing that you can
negotiate nothing that in stone and this you can negotiate.
You can create a lane for yourself and I just
like for people to have that information. And so for me,
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it's been a long time coming. I think that I
don't attach myself to every single project. If I see
that it's a project that I just you know, I love,
and you know, everybody kind of becomes uh should I
say mentees or a student going through this pipeline of
learning how to pitch. And it doesn't matter what the
age is. I mean, I'm working with people from all
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ages across the board, and people want to have access
and they want to be able to have someone that
they can just call on like hey, I just got
this question, you know, yeah right now, Like seriously, like
what what the hell do I say? You know, and
people that's on standby, you know, I've been for a
lot of people. I had someone to send me a
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you know, a sheet. Yesterday, I was I was approaching
an interview. I think you and I we were saying,
and I was getting ready to do a TV show
interview and the person just sent me over a PDF.
She was like, can you overlook this? You know, someone
just you know, approached me. They want me to come
on as being a producer to this television show and
all this detail. And I was like, I can't answer
anything until after two, you know, they like a little minute.
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And she was like, okay, my meetings at three, so
we're good, you know. But you know again, it's I
like to look at it as I'm an unofficial attorney
in a sense because I try to help people read
the lines people don't like reading sometimes as knowing what
again their options are, you know, how can you negotiate
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or just what does this turn me? Being? You know
that you can add a clause and just those type
of things. And I also kind of look at myself
an unofficial agent as well. Yeah, knowing that something and
you have solicited if people are sharing material, and you
can't have unsolicited material coming right to directly to networks.
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It's all about relationship, you know, somebody tell me that
this morning. You know, I said, wait a minute, have
you guys gotten like, you know, your submission policy, you know,
like doubt is it? Is it online or whatever? She
was like, yeah, it's just no unsolicited. I was like, girl, please,
that person is and let me talk to them. I
got all this material dumped over here on my desk,
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know us, Listen, you don't know who I am. Right, Yeah,
that's true. And everybody's looking for content. It's not just
networking and cable now, You've got all of these streaming
outlets that are looking for content now. Absolutely, Um, it's
just it's flooded. Tracy, let's just say, okay, linear is
changing their style as well. Okay, Linear television is changing
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their style also to streamers have taken over some of them.
Our subscriptions have gone up four hundred percent than the
since the time of the pandemic. Right, yeah, Nextlix went
up four they were the first one. I remember reading that. Absolutely,
And so even these minute, you know, streamers that have
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are just taken a chance, they're starting to do well.
They're starting to see to be come across a little
bit more often, right, and they're allocating deals you know too,
content creators, and it's just for them to have a start, right,
So everything might not be about the dollar. It's about persistency.
But it's more about consistency. Okay, I got two things.
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One I want because it's five minutes. Only have five minutes.
It flew by. One is when are you coming to
do the New York Pitch Summit? And to and and
can you give us some more jewels? Just what you think?
Um in my podcast we in a motto is our
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writer and residence and just phenomenal opportunities just her presenting
her work and having actors performing on this. But what
what is like maybe two or three things that people
who want to have shows? What can they do right now? Okay,
one of those things, let's let's say the top three
things that people want to do to have a show, right.
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If you're just starting from scratch, let's start from scratch.
Let's put together a synopsis that's just one page. You
can afford time, right, and the route to do a
one page or a one sheet sometimes it's what they'll
call it, which is a synopsis, right, telling us what
that premise is, whether if it's a series or whether
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if it's a film. Okay, when you're dealing with the series,
you're kind of going into a little bit of some
other layers that are inside of there. But it's a
start with one page, one sheet synopsis, right, make sure
to also have a logline. Let that be number two.
Your logline is your one sentence that is going to
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allow for a reader or an audience member to have
an idea of what this is about. Okay, what your
press is about. Um also too, if you can try
to have your insighting incident in in there. That's more
of like some writers terminology. Okay, you guys, make sure
to do your homework and look that up. And if
you can include that, that would be great. Logline one sheet.
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And this might be a little bit too much of
a stretch, okay, if you can have some sort of visual, right,
I'm not saying go up there, grab your camera, start
putting together things on I movie. No visual, right, if
you can also include let's not say, a pitch deck, right,
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Like might be a little I would have to be ambitious. Yeah,
I would sessions to that, right, Yeah, things look really great,
because now if you don't give a visual, then whoever
that buyer is, they're going to create their own visual
and so what that really means is if you're going
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to verbally share the information, then you need to paint
this picture. And sometimes you can paint it through like
you know, having a little bit of a couple of Uh,
I'll be very lighthearted creating something through canva or a
power point to show a couple of pages of what
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this you know premises about the world the tone. Okay,
I'm not gonna go into a full pitch that because
like I said, that would be heavy, but the world
of the show or the film, right, and you can
also kind of include yourself as whether if you're a writer,
whether if you're a producer, or whether if you're a director.
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So just start there. Start with the logline, start with
the one page synopsis, and put together maybe two or
three pages of the world of that show. And it
could be a collage of photos photo what that world is.
That would be the most simplest thing to start with.
But again you'll find all that information into pitch or
not to pitch, and yes you will. And I need
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you guys to pick this book up actor seriously, because
you need more than one stream of revenue, because you're
Creative Being. To Pitch or Not to Pitch by Ty
Johnston Chavez. You guys, we are so blessed. Ty is
gonna stick around. We will be right back with the
Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore for class in Sessions.
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Welcome back to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore.
To Pitch or Not to Pitch? Ty Johnson Chavis still
with us, So we're going to you know, the drill.
We have our actors Spirited Actor alumni Ju Lisa Capri Hey,
Julisa Hey, and we have Alfonso Walker Jr. Bless of people,
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so excited for Tie to see you guys, Tie, These
are my O G. S and Elsa Lathan are superwoman
a k right hand, left hand, front and back. I'll
know how to sell it, but anyway, she is all
everything you know. So um. This scene is written by
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our spirit actor alumni O G. Leon A Motto. We
call her our writer and residence, and Elsa will be
reading the narrative and our actors will be giving it
the scene. So if everybody's ready, I will call action
on Elsa. The switch up written by Leona Motto interior
Actuley's living room to day, pointing his bullshit once again, actually,
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and Davia going at it when it hits her. Wait,
hold up, I don't want to apologize in here. I
mean this was all you. This is you. You're assuming
our did something and you absolutely have no evidence. You
should be apologizing to me. I don't deserve of this.
I'm really are you? Chuckles to herself. Great to me? Okay, Look, okay,
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a week in Columbia with your boys, you barely reach out,
and you want to call bringing me home a mug
and a pack of Columbian coffee great to me? You
know I don't even drink coffee. Are you done yet?
I think you just missed me and you don't know
how to say it. Oh my god, Yo, something that's
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really wrong with you. I am trying to communicate and
do this the healthy way, and you're gonna ask me
if I'm done? Okay. I was really upset while you
were gone. You set this really hot bar, but when
push came to shove, you weren't what you said you were.
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Your word talk are cheap? You watch you have to
go through this and be penutized just because you're assuming
I didn't do anything but the right thing and here
I go out. I planned a nice special day for
us that I put thought into and just because you
felt something was off, we missed out on it. You see,
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you are doing this, you know, trying to make me
feel bad. You're a nickela. That's a lot of name
calling for someone who's trying to have a healthy conversation. Okay,
you're right, my boy, it's okay. It just hurts to
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think that you look at me like that. Next time,
before you go assuming, before you even let your mind
get there, just just talk to me. I missed you.
I was gone. He's interrupted by his phone ringing. He
looks down. It's a Columbia number. But before she can notice, man,
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give me a huh, she gladly does, and just like
that he's back in the lead. See great shot of
you guys, and we're gonna throw it to your tie. Man. Well,
let me just congratulate you both, you know, for your performance.
And I know that like the performance that were that's
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existing right now is on online. But let me tell
you what you had me in the living room. Okay,
I had some feelings that was going on. I wanted
to check that cell phone just now, you know more questions,
you know, and I felt like that, man, you you
just put me in that place. You put me in
that place where you know, the emotions are just flowing,
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you know, both of you guys. And I think that,
but what we're able to do again online like I
wanted to be there live and in color like so
I no, seriously, I mean, right here has to be
stretched out. Tracy, I'm gonna tell you that you have
created a masterpiece of people being able to express themselves
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and put themselves into the characters that many people walk
around with on a daily basis. Right, So, both of
you guys just put me in the space of maybe
I haven't personally been in, but I know what it's like,
like you know what I'm saying, Uh, what what number
is that? Okay? What number? Going to my head? Just
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now before she said seeing who who got that number?
But seriously, it's just magical work, and you know it's
being flooded through so many of you all and Tracy,
you've done just an amazing job with your actors and
both of you. You know, Alfonso Jalisa, please continue to
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carry on this talent because it's everlasting and it shows. Oh,
thank you so much tie. You know, I think it's
so important for actors too, because they don't hear this,
you know, unless they're around us, nobody's really giving this.
So to give that to their morale, and you know,
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it just gives you that boost of Yeah, it's a
confirmation you're doing what you're supposed to do, so keep
doing it. I appreciate love that, Ladies and gentlemen. Once again,
to pitch or not to pitch, we are going to
be pitching this book as much as possible because you'all
need this in your life. And I'm telling you, if
you can't get through all these stages in one day,
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we need to have a conversation. We need to talk
about this, you know. And again, like I said, it's
such a great read. It's not intimidating, it's not overwhelming.
I feel like I get it and you'll get it.
To Tie phenomenal. I have to have part two because
I do have a couple more questions, so i'll hit
you back in to you for that. But I'm gonna
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be talking about this book. I'm gonna take a picture
today and we're talking about this book. This book is incredible,
Ladies and gentlemen, once again, please stand up. But they
has to get up, but Ti Johnston shell up. Thanks guys,
I appreciate and love you, Love you man, Thank you
so much, and we'll be back on the Spirited Actor
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podcast with me Tracy Moore and I'm gonna give you
some love. And now it's time to give love. As
we approached these holiday moments and gatherings with our family,
opening up presence, whatever traditions you have, it's important for
us to remember people who don't have the things in
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which we have, or who don't have the lifestyle in
which we have. And it's not just this time that
we should remember people and think of people. We should
think of people every day. Every day you should think
about whatever small acts that you can do. You One
of my favorite things to do is they don't have
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a lot of meters anymore parking meters, but when there
were parking meters, I loved going by parking meters and
putting quarters into people's parking meters and them not knowing like, wait,
but Todd was extended. I didn't put I don't know
what the conversation was after I left, but I know
somewhere in their heart they felt grateful. And they felt blessed.
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We should bless people every single day with whatever we
can and however we can, because a simple gesture of
a smile, a simple gesture of authentically and and really
asking someone how are you doing, and really listening and
engaging after that with their answer, those things go a
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long way. So during these holidays, this holiday season, make
sure that while you're giving to your family and loved ones,
that you're conscious of giving outside of yourself and making
a commitment to not just celebrate that during this time,
make sure you celebrated every single day of your life,
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whatever it is, because life really is about us taking
care of each other and us coming together as a community,
and us coming together as human beings and tearing and
loving this earth, this world, and all of this goodness
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that continues even through the bad, this goodness that comes
through and shines through every single day. Take a moment
to acknowledge that. Don't forget to look out for us.
On our new show Inside the Black Box, my co
host will be Joe the Legend Morton. It's going to
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be The Spirited Actor podcast us on Steroids. We'll be
streaming on the Crackle network. I'll keep you posted thank
you for joining us on the Spirited Actor Podcast with
me Tracy Moore. I look forward to our next Spirited podcast.
Thank you,
Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me
Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and
TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transition to
a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New
Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Thomas.
I audition every rapper from Biggie's Balls to Tupac, and
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I realized the rappers and musical artists they needed help
transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from
Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Ye from The
Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons, to name a few. I
also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel
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I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director,
I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an
acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in
that room. Now. I know, I know actors want to
get the job. I get that, but being remembered by
a casting director do that is powerful. And now it's
time for meditation of the day. If we believe that
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tomorrow will be better, we can bear a hardship today.
So yesterday wasn't my most favorite day in the world. However,
through the challenges, I kept reminding myself that things are
going to get better. Sometimes we have bad days, you guys.
Sometimes we don't want to get on the phone and
talk to people. Sometimes you just don't want to walk
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around with what Spruce calls a kool Aid smile and
bouncing off the walls. You have to allow yourself, as
human beings and especially as actors, to feel what you feel,
because if you don't have the experience of feeling unhappy,
or feeling pain, or feeling love, you can't be authentic
in being that as an actor. So you have to
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have these experiences with yourself because you may never know
the character in which you're auditioning for is going through
a similar experience. And because you have been through that experience,
you have the wisdom, you have the foresight, and you
have the understanding. In order to be authentic as an actor,
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you have to have the experience, or at least have
knowledge of it to be that. So when you're experiencing
a bad day, allow yourself to go through it, because
the blessing is tomorrow and today for me is a
brand new day, a brand new experience, and I've allowed
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myself to let go of yesterday so I could be
present and happy for today. Today, I will allow myself
to feel unapologetically. Before we get started, I'd like to
remind everyone to look out for my new show, Inside
the Black Box. I'll be co hosting with the great
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Joe Morton. Will be on Crackle Network real soon. I'll
keep you posted. Welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with
me Tracy Moore. Sit back, you guys. We've had this
guest here before, but we have her back because we're
gonna be talking about her book. I am so excited.
I have so many questions. We may not be able
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to squeeze everything in this interview, so we'll have to
have a part two. But you are going to be motivated.
You are going to get off of this podcast and
start writing your film, your TV show, your web series,
whatever it is. Ladies and gentlemen, please put your hands
together for the CEO of TI Entertainment. She is an
international producer and founder. I was there day one for
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the Atlantic Pitch Summit, which is a phenomenal event that
she has yearly, and she's going to talk about that.
Ladies and gentlemen, please please put your hands together. From
my favorite person in the whole universe, Tie Johnston Shads,
put your hands together. Lay Welcome bet ladies and gentlemen.
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This is a book that you must get to pitch
or not to pitch. This is her book, Okay, and
we're gonna hold it up and we're gonna talk about
this throughout the whole entire show because you need this. Tie.
First of all, congratulations on a phenomenal book. Oh Tracy,
thank you so much that this makes me feel so good,
especially coming from you. You know our you know both
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of our world, and you know one has encompassed inside
of it, and so you know this book to me
is a part of the journey, but for more so
to make corrections for people who plan on embarking on
that type of journey. TI. When I first met you,
Tie is also a professor. Tie has a way because
she was at that time she was working with students,
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and I just remember the editing and I remember that
I didn't understand the process, but the way in which
you broke it down to me in layman's terms, And
that's why I love this book. Because is this book,
first of all, if you can read this book in
one day. We need to have a conversation. And I'm
not saying it because it's short. I'm saying because it
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just close. You never want to put it down, because
every sentence has a piece of information. Tie has written
a book that is so brilliant because she actually takes
you through the pitching process, which is something we rarely
hear about. Right, We hear about selling a project green lit,
get going into pre production, post production, but how often
(05:33):
do we hear about the pitching process? Tie Man, You
know what, you just laid it down. That just gave
me chills almost because you know, it's such an intricate
part of the process with just coming up with, you know,
a and an idea, let's just start. You know, you
don't know what really you have to do to get
to the finish line. And the finish line is almost
(05:55):
like never ending. You know, after it's green lit, you're
not done. It's just another uh stepping stone to get
to the next point. So, you know, I believe that
the pitching process is something that people they just don't
even look at at all. Tracy. It's almost like it's
not really talked about. But you know, they're talking about
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to pitch, you know, Oh yeah, I'm gonna pitch. I'm
gonna pitch. But I think that what people they have
to just really have to come to terms with is
that it's a skill. You know, it's not easy, it's
a skill. It becomes a part of UM sales as well,
it becomes a part of who you are. It becomes
a part of your um you know, everything that you're
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starting to live and breathe and how are you presenting
yourself as you know, a person that you that you
want people to take you seriously and you want people
to believe in what you have on paper, right, So
it's just one of those things that's like, how are
you going to really convince me to invest in you?
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And what I love about this book is I really
feel like you're talking directly to me. And that's the
thing that I love, ladies and gentlemen, is that it's
like having a real UM consultation with Tie. She's answering
every It's like she's in your head answering every single
question UM. And I love the fact that it's personalized
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right where it's not a textbook so to speak, but
we feel your opinions and your expertise in this. I
love the way you stress to people that the pitching
we don't talk about, which I think is a lane
that you have created for yourself, created for yourself. But
I love the professionalism in which you speak because people
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all day and I'm sure you've had this experience, right,
what people come to you to say I have the
best idea of the brilliant idea to you, to you,
and then you come in and say, well let me
see you here this idea and let's this I get there. Yes, yes,
totally exactly right, because there's so many other layers that
go with the pitching process, right. You know, people aren't
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thinking about projects that are marketable. People aren't thinking about
projects that could be fruitfully sellable in anybody as a
buyer in order for them to go and say, Okay,
I want to acquire this type of content and I
want to make money from it. They don't want to
acquire the content just because you know it's like, oh
this is pretty, this is your baby, even working on
this for life. No, they want to make sure that
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it stretches across a stream of audiences and how is
it that it could be presentable to have a connection
through other organizations or you know, merchandizing, and that's when
the whole I p you know, you're starting to talk
about that, and I mentioned that well, um which is property.
And so when you are discovering um, you know, concepts
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to create, it's a study to it. It's almost a science.
And that's also a part of the pitchings. So people
are starting to you know, the wise ones that are
getting it, that are starting to download specific information for
them to say, you know, gosh, I like writing about this,
but this is what's really sellable, right. That's Hollywood or
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doesn't matter where you are, because you can be anywhere
in the world mustering up content, but what is going
to be the content that is going to be most
appealing and then of course be able to make a dollar.
So the other thing I think that mad just applause, gratitude,
the fact that you started at the Atlantic Kitch Summit.
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What I felt and in reading the book also is
that you make people who are not connected or have
connections to the industry, you make it accessible, right, And
I think that a part of that is giving people
hope and and pursuing their dreams because I might live
in Missouri, right and think to myself, there's no way
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I could get to Hollywood, but I feel like and
asking you how many of these folks have you helped
and been instrumental in getting their projects developed on etcetera,
and shocked, Yes, you know, Tracy, you know that question
right there. That number is still like a discovery number.
I've been in the help and ministry for a very
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long time and there's been a lot of people that
have come through the pipeline of the Atlanta Pitch Summit
and they've done like wonders just you know, I'll include
this executives meeting executives right and them countering opportunities and
ventures together, also to an executive meeting a content creator
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or content creating, heating content creators. It's been a marketplace
for those that are looking to brand, looking to explore
and move forward with content and getting it sold obviously,
but also to us, the collaboration is what's so important
because that relationship building is what it's really about. And
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you want to know that this business you know, has
been you know, one of those businesses is like you
don't know where you're going, but right, relationships and you're
able to pick up the phone and even run something
across someone like a Tracy Moore, you know, or Will
Pack or ladies and gentlemen, I'm telling you, or will
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even you know, these these conversations don't have to be
wrong with it. They could be very sure. You know,
an executive last night and you know it was for
a project that just came across my desk on yesterday.
And this young lady she went out and she shot
like a whole Christmas special, right, I mean when I say,
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like on stage, real music, some secular music, some gospel music,
and it was incredible. And guess when she just did
it on like a drop of a dime. And she's
an actress and she has a you know, a really
good bear name that I feel like if somebody picked
it up, you know, it could do great. But guess
what timing is of the essence? Christmas is next? Wait,
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you're just getting this done now? You want to marry?
But I would think hex executives from my phone and say, hey, listen,
this just came across my desk, you know, please take
a look at it. The very first thing they want
to know is it's the music. Clear you understand what
I'm saying, So I yeahs if you have other things
that are you know, melted into your project that sometimes
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you don't even take consideration of. So you know, long
story short, you know, she might not get what she
wants for it, or she might have to present it
next season. It's not the brain project. But you go
back and post and you can you know, refix some
of that that make some modifications. But at the end
of the day, and she might be able to buy
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a really good dinner for she and her team. You
know what I'm saying, I mean, and that's it. I
can't take you that's true. You're right though you're not
gonna get back. You know, you said it's worth seven
hundred and fifty thousand on paper, right, but you know,
in realization, how much did you spend? Can you recoup
that costs? At the last minute, you're still trying to
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get clearance on you know, your music. So you know,
like I said, at the end of the day, we
might be able to buy you a really good dinner
and you take that on home with you and you
wear it when a smile. You know what to say
her on the next one. So tie, I was thinking
about this last night because again, um, this is one
of my favorite books. So I I went through it
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the first time, but the second time I'm going through
with my highlighter. Um. I wanted to just sort of
like do an exercise with you, right, Like I want
to be somebody coming to pitch to you, right I
and I came up with this idea of Spruce. I
feel like Spruce is gonna be like try why did
you say that idea? But I have to do with Spruce.
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I had this idea the other day. I'm coming to
you with my idea, and I want you to treat
me and show the audience like what process that you
would go through with me that you talk about in
to pitch or not to pitch. So I have this idea. Um,
I saw the shariff idea listen to Spruce trying to
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correct me. I had this idea that Um. The other
day the sheriff of Los Angeles said, please don't come
to l A. L A is like the purge and
we can't protect you. That's what it was on the news,
all on the news, right, l A is out of
control people. What's happening is people are going to restaurants,
Rodale Drive, following people home and robbing them, or it's
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just brazen. Right, So I have this idea, what if
a security company is behind all of these robberies, because
what is increasing now is security. Yes, people are now
hiring armed after unfortunate that we Clarence Avon's wife was murdered,
that community came together financially and now they have armed
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guards in there. But what if there's that one company
that is training these people to go out and rob
and you see how So I don't have this fleshed out,
but I think it's a great idea and a great movie.
What do you think? Well, you know, Tracy, something like
this kind of puts me in the mind a little
bit of when Fox came out with America's Most Wanted, Right,
we see a lot of BTS, which is behind the
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scenes coverage. Right. Maybe possibly that the security company will
operate more like a behind the scenes type of I
see it a little bit more as a series, and
it could be more of a testing type of project,
right that we have episodes that we kind of show
maybe something limited, you know, just to see could this work?
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And you never know, it could be something that we
work going towards with Fox. If you remember a long
time ago, I want to say about maybe four or
five summers ago. Fox tested out several shows, but they
were doing talk shows. They did Cocoa and ice right right, right,
um uh and his wife Nicole yep bo right. So
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and you can pitch it like that. But I also
like the fact that you have to show your comparables, right,
So you you show America's most wanted because we saw
a lot of behind the scenes footage with that. We
also saw one of those um should you what was
the name of that show there? Helped me out. This
was the towing Um Companies, right uh um, oh yeah,
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read there there you go, right, thank you for that.
So you you kind of show your comparables with that, right,
and then you have to look at the main premise.
What is the hook of this series? Right, So you're
gonna have to determine what that might be, and sometimes
that might take a little bit of research of talking
to security companies to know what is their steak. So
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you gotta know what is the steak, you know, what
is some of this high um concept that we're starting.
This is a high concept type of show. So there
there are things that we flush out first before coming
up and like solidifying this idea. But I love being
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able to perhaps contact some of these l A security companies,
even the ones that are just virtual on the phone,
right are they you know, how are they even upgrading
their systems? You know, Yeah, I've got to figure that
out at this point, right, how can you have more protection?
But I do like what you just shared, and so
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for the most part, I would like for you to
flush that out some context to me so that she
can produce it because TI one of the things that
I was thinking when I saw this news report is like,
we're talking huge celebrities here that are getting robbed and
broad daylight war at nighttime dere from the Real Housewives
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of Beverly Hills. They just crashed her place at nighttime,
held her by gunpoint, and praise Scott, they didn't kill
her of her children. But my thing is, if you
were of that level, your security is not a d
T or the ring. It has to be so that
that's can't that's not cheap, you know, it's definitely not cheap.
And you know, I I've even seen some different you know,
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highlights that have come across the internet. I saw this
one lady. She looked she was in a very nice
l a like neighborhood, and she was walking her child.
She was pushing the stroller. She opened up her gate.
Her gate was an electronic gate. It open. I'm talking
about like twenty feet size gate. You had great shrubberies
around there. She opened it, pushed your stroller in. Two
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men of color, let's say that they were walking past her.
She didn't even get a chance to even take the
baby after the stroller, get inside, click the clicker to
close the gate. They just went on right in the gate.
They looked at her, and all she did was give
up her backpack and they went on about their business,
you know, And it was just a shame to know this.
What what are really some of these things that are
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starting to increase? And maybe you can look at the
show with not being like high celebte but just people
in general. So there's all so many different things that
could go along with your show. Girlfriend, now you forget yeah,
but yeah, Tracy, it's just amazing how things are coming
together right unfold, but how they can happen with just
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everyday life situation. Now what I do love you guys,
and I know you guys are paying close attention to this,
the research and the due diligence that Ty is saying. Right,
I love the fact which I didn't even think about
because I hadn't gotten that far. But yes, there should
be research done about these security companies and how they
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function and you know, and what their costs are, because
those things can also add in the developing of this
story and the development and tie when these people come
you know, um through d MS, through emails, through referrals,
do you attach yourself as a producer or do people
ask you to attach yourself as a producer because you're
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an expert, Like I want someone like you to hold
my hand quote unquote and walk me through this process.
And I would offer producer credit to you because it
seems like you're there in the beginning of you know,
the the originality of the concept and the development of
the concept. You know, Tracy, A lot of people that
I have worked with over just the course of years,
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you know, I've worked with from conceptualization to delivery, right,
And I think comfortable with working with someone or having
that guidance from someone that is going to one tell
them the truth, not sugarcoat anything. Three make sure that
they're protected right and the material is also protected. For
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letting you know what your options are. You don't have
to have the first thing coming to you is like,
that's gonna be the only type of should I say,
offer that you ever received? Five knowing that you can
negotiate nothing that in stone and this you can negotiate.
You can create a lane for yourself and I just
like for people to have that information. And so for me,
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it's been a long time coming. I think that I
don't attach myself to every single project. If I see
that it's a project that I just you know, I love,
and you know, everybody kind of becomes uh should I
say mentees or a student going through this pipeline of
learning how to pitch. And it doesn't matter what the
age is. I mean, I'm working with people from all
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ages across the board, and people want to have access
and they want to be able to have someone that
they can just call on like hey, I just got
this question, you know, yeah right now, Like seriously, like
what what the hell do I say? You know, and
people that's on standby, you know, I've been for a
lot of people. I had someone to send me a
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you know, a sheet. Yesterday, I was I was approaching
an interview. I think you and I we were saying,
and I was getting ready to do a TV show
interview and the person just sent me over a PDF.
She was like, can you overlook this? You know, someone
just you know, approached me. They want me to come
on as being a producer to this television show and
all this detail. And I was like, I can't answer
anything until after two, you know, they like a little minute.
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And she was like, okay, my meetings at three, so
we're good, you know. But you know again, it's I
like to look at it as I'm an unofficial attorney
in a sense because I try to help people read
the lines people don't like reading sometimes as knowing what
again their options are, you know, how can you negotiate
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or just what does this turn me? Being? You know
that you can add a clause and just those type
of things. And I also kind of look at myself
an unofficial agent as well. Yeah, knowing that something and
you have solicited if people are sharing material, and you
can't have unsolicited material coming right to directly to networks.
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It's all about relationship, you know, somebody tell me that
this morning. You know, I said, wait a minute, have
you guys gotten like, you know, your submission policy, you know,
like doubt is it? Is it online or whatever? She
was like, yeah, it's just no unsolicited. I was like, girl, please,
that person is and let me talk to them. I
got all this material dumped over here on my desk,
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know us, Listen, you don't know who I am. Right, Yeah,
that's true. And everybody's looking for content. It's not just
networking and cable now, You've got all of these streaming
outlets that are looking for content now. Absolutely, Um, it's
just it's flooded. Tracy, let's just say, okay, linear is
changing their style as well. Okay, Linear television is changing
(23:56):
their style also to streamers have taken over some of them.
Our subscriptions have gone up four hundred percent than the
since the time of the pandemic. Right, yeah, Nextlix went
up four they were the first one. I remember reading that. Absolutely,
And so even these minute, you know, streamers that have
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are just taken a chance, they're starting to do well.
They're starting to see to be come across a little
bit more often, right, and they're allocating deals you know too,
content creators, and it's just for them to have a start, right,
So everything might not be about the dollar. It's about persistency.
But it's more about consistency. Okay, I got two things.
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One I want because it's five minutes. Only have five minutes.
It flew by. One is when are you coming to
do the New York Pitch Summit? And to and and
can you give us some more jewels? Just what you think?
Um in my podcast we in a motto is our
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writer and residence and just phenomenal opportunities just her presenting
her work and having actors performing on this. But what
what is like maybe two or three things that people
who want to have shows? What can they do right now? Okay,
one of those things, let's let's say the top three
things that people want to do to have a show, right.
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If you're just starting from scratch, let's start from scratch.
Let's put together a synopsis that's just one page. You
can afford time, right, and the route to do a
one page or a one sheet sometimes it's what they'll
call it, which is a synopsis, right, telling us what
that premise is, whether if it's a series or whether
(25:44):
if it's a film. Okay, when you're dealing with the series,
you're kind of going into a little bit of some
other layers that are inside of there. But it's a
start with one page, one sheet synopsis, right, make sure
to also have a logline. Let that be number two.
Your logline is your one sentence that is going to
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allow for a reader or an audience member to have
an idea of what this is about. Okay, what your
press is about. Um also too, if you can try
to have your insighting incident in in there. That's more
of like some writers terminology. Okay, you guys, make sure
to do your homework and look that up. And if
you can include that, that would be great. Logline one sheet.
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And this might be a little bit too much of
a stretch, okay, if you can have some sort of visual, right,
I'm not saying go up there, grab your camera, start
putting together things on I movie. No visual, right, if
you can also include let's not say, a pitch deck, right,
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Like might be a little I would have to be ambitious. Yeah,
I would sessions to that, right, Yeah, things look really great,
because now if you don't give a visual, then whoever
that buyer is, they're going to create their own visual
and so what that really means is if you're going
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to verbally share the information, then you need to paint
this picture. And sometimes you can paint it through like
you know, having a little bit of a couple of Uh,
I'll be very lighthearted creating something through canva or a
power point to show a couple of pages of what
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this you know premises about the world the tone. Okay,
I'm not gonna go into a full pitch that because
like I said, that would be heavy, but the world
of the show or the film, right, and you can
also kind of include yourself as whether if you're a writer,
whether if you're a producer, or whether if you're a director.
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So just start there. Start with the logline, start with
the one page synopsis, and put together maybe two or
three pages of the world of that show. And it
could be a collage of photos photo what that world is.
That would be the most simplest thing to start with.
But again you'll find all that information into pitch or
not to pitch, and yes you will. And I need
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you guys to pick this book up actor seriously, because
you need more than one stream of revenue, because you're
Creative Being. To Pitch or Not to Pitch by Ty
Johnston Chavez. You guys, we are so blessed. Ty is
gonna stick around. We will be right back with the
Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore for class in Sessions.
(28:36):
Welcome back to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore.
To Pitch or Not to Pitch? Ty Johnson Chavis still
with us, So we're going to you know, the drill.
We have our actors Spirited Actor alumni Ju Lisa Capri Hey,
Julisa Hey, and we have Alfonso Walker Jr. Bless of people,
(29:00):
so excited for Tie to see you guys, Tie, These
are my O G. S and Elsa Lathan are superwoman
a k right hand, left hand, front and back. I'll
know how to sell it, but anyway, she is all
everything you know. So um. This scene is written by
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our spirit actor alumni O G. Leon A Motto. We
call her our writer and residence, and Elsa will be
reading the narrative and our actors will be giving it
the scene. So if everybody's ready, I will call action
on Elsa. The switch up written by Leona Motto interior
Actuley's living room to day, pointing his bullshit once again, actually,
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and Davia going at it when it hits her. Wait,
hold up, I don't want to apologize in here. I
mean this was all you. This is you. You're assuming
our did something and you absolutely have no evidence. You
should be apologizing to me. I don't deserve of this.
I'm really are you? Chuckles to herself. Great to me? Okay, Look, okay,
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a week in Columbia with your boys, you barely reach out,
and you want to call bringing me home a mug
and a pack of Columbian coffee great to me? You
know I don't even drink coffee. Are you done yet?
I think you just missed me and you don't know
how to say it. Oh my god, Yo, something that's
(30:33):
really wrong with you. I am trying to communicate and
do this the healthy way, and you're gonna ask me
if I'm done? Okay. I was really upset while you
were gone. You set this really hot bar, but when
push came to shove, you weren't what you said you were.
(30:54):
Your word talk are cheap? You watch you have to
go through this and be penutized just because you're assuming
I didn't do anything but the right thing and here
I go out. I planned a nice special day for
us that I put thought into and just because you
felt something was off, we missed out on it. You see,
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you are doing this, you know, trying to make me
feel bad. You're a nickela. That's a lot of name
calling for someone who's trying to have a healthy conversation. Okay,
you're right, my boy, it's okay. It just hurts to
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think that you look at me like that. Next time,
before you go assuming, before you even let your mind
get there, just just talk to me. I missed you.
I was gone. He's interrupted by his phone ringing. He
looks down. It's a Columbia number. But before she can notice, man,
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give me a huh, she gladly does, and just like
that he's back in the lead. See great shot of
you guys, and we're gonna throw it to your tie. Man. Well,
let me just congratulate you both, you know, for your performance.
And I know that like the performance that were that's
(32:21):
existing right now is on online. But let me tell
you what you had me in the living room. Okay,
I had some feelings that was going on. I wanted
to check that cell phone just now, you know more questions,
you know, and I felt like that, man, you you
just put me in that place. You put me in
that place where you know, the emotions are just flowing,
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you know, both of you guys. And I think that,
but what we're able to do again online like I
wanted to be there live and in color like so
I no, seriously, I mean, right here has to be
stretched out. Tracy, I'm gonna tell you that you have
created a masterpiece of people being able to express themselves
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and put themselves into the characters that many people walk
around with on a daily basis. Right, So, both of
you guys just put me in the space of maybe
I haven't personally been in, but I know what it's like,
like you know what I'm saying, Uh, what what number
is that? Okay? What number? Going to my head? Just
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now before she said seeing who who got that number?
But seriously, it's just magical work, and you know it's
being flooded through so many of you all and Tracy,
you've done just an amazing job with your actors and
both of you. You know, Alfonso Jalisa, please continue to
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carry on this talent because it's everlasting and it shows. Oh,
thank you so much tie. You know, I think it's
so important for actors too, because they don't hear this,
you know, unless they're around us, nobody's really giving this.
So to give that to their morale, and you know,
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it just gives you that boost of Yeah, it's a
confirmation you're doing what you're supposed to do, so keep
doing it. I appreciate love that, Ladies and gentlemen. Once again,
to pitch or not to pitch, we are going to
be pitching this book as much as possible because you'all
need this in your life. And I'm telling you, if
you can't get through all these stages in one day,
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we need to have a conversation. We need to talk
about this, you know. And again, like I said, it's
such a great read. It's not intimidating, it's not overwhelming.
I feel like I get it and you'll get it.
To Tie phenomenal. I have to have part two because
I do have a couple more questions, so i'll hit
you back in to you for that. But I'm gonna
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be talking about this book. I'm gonna take a picture
today and we're talking about this book. This book is incredible,
Ladies and gentlemen, once again, please stand up. But they
has to get up, but Ti Johnston shell up. Thanks guys,
I appreciate and love you, Love you man, Thank you
so much, and we'll be back on the Spirited Actor
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podcast with me Tracy Moore and I'm gonna give you
some love. And now it's time to give love. As
we approached these holiday moments and gatherings with our family,
opening up presence, whatever traditions you have, it's important for
us to remember people who don't have the things in
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which we have, or who don't have the lifestyle in
which we have. And it's not just this time that
we should remember people and think of people. We should
think of people every day. Every day you should think
about whatever small acts that you can do. You One
of my favorite things to do is they don't have
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a lot of meters anymore parking meters, but when there
were parking meters, I loved going by parking meters and
putting quarters into people's parking meters and them not knowing like, wait,
but Todd was extended. I didn't put I don't know
what the conversation was after I left, but I know
somewhere in their heart they felt grateful. And they felt blessed.
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We should bless people every single day with whatever we
can and however we can, because a simple gesture of
a smile, a simple gesture of authentically and and really
asking someone how are you doing, and really listening and
engaging after that with their answer, those things go a
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long way. So during these holidays, this holiday season, make
sure that while you're giving to your family and loved ones,
that you're conscious of giving outside of yourself and making
a commitment to not just celebrate that during this time,
make sure you celebrated every single day of your life,
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whatever it is, because life really is about us taking
care of each other and us coming together as a community,
and us coming together as human beings and tearing and
loving this earth, this world, and all of this goodness
(37:37):
that continues even through the bad, this goodness that comes
through and shines through every single day. Take a moment
to acknowledge that. Don't forget to look out for us.
On our new show Inside the Black Box, my co
host will be Joe the Legend Morton. It's going to
(37:58):
be The Spirited Actor podcast us on Steroids. We'll be
streaming on the Crackle network. I'll keep you posted thank
you for joining us on the Spirited Actor Podcast with
me Tracy Moore. I look forward to our next Spirited podcast.
Thank you,
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