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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Sorry, I'm latey.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Someone died on a bus I was on.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
I had to wait for a new bus.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's a horrific story.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
But welcome to the team.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Anyway. We are going to give the rest of the
season everything we got and make a deep playoff run.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
We're the Waves. We don't do rebuilding years.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Marcus mess you in my office yesterday. I'd like to
do weekly one on one check ins.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Does that work?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Oh? Rachould have told you about?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Oh how you like to conserve your energy? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I don't give a shit. Talk too soon everyone. I
have a great practice. The wives haha, you said, are
right there. Welcome back right here to the Steven A.
Smith Show. My guest is at the helm of one
of the most storied franchises.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
In NBA history.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
She's been here before, and she's back to talk about
a new Netflix comedy series called Running Point, which permitted yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
She's an executive producer.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
On the project, and she is the real life inspiration
for the lead character played by Kate Hudson.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Please welcome Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Lake is controlling owner and partner the president herself, the
one and only Genie Buss.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Back here at the Stephen Asmith Show. Hey Jennie, how
are you.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm doing great? How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I'm doing wonderful. It is always great to see you.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Let's get started with this Netflix series running points loosely
based on your family. Why did you want? And it's
justly based on you, actually, why did you want to
do this?

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Genie?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I am a big fan of comedy because I believe
comedy helps people cope with stress, helps diffuse tense situations.
And I use humor a lot in this business because
sometimes you just have to laugh or else she'll lose
your mind. So I'm a big fan of comedy. We

(01:59):
were able to pit the idea to Mindy Kayling, who
is you know, at the executive producer, creator and has
created many hit shows, and she liked the idea, and
we spent you know a lot of time together and
telling her stories, and they took all that information and

(02:23):
created this, you know world that isn't the Lakers. This
is completely creative, you know, by the writers. It's not
my family, but it is inspired by a person in
a position like mine, and I think they've done a

(02:44):
fantastic job creating the characters, allowing you to get the
inside of what goes on behind the scenes at a
sports team that so many people ask me about with
a sense of humor. Are the people are very relatable.
As I've learned in this country, the family businesses are

(03:08):
the most common businesses. So we all had that experience
of working with our family and sometimes you step on
each other's toes, but at the end of the day,
your family and you come together to do what's right
for your business, for what's right for your team. And
I think people will be very entertained by it. It's
the actually today it is the number one show on Netflix.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well I'm not surprised by that. It's associated with you
and you're a winness, so that's the way that this works.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
But how close is.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
This storyline to you to your real life?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
In your estimation?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
How close is it's there's some you know, a few
true things that people will definitely pick up on, and
then then there's a lot of creative license that the
writers took that just you know, kind of in their mind,
you know, decided this would be interesting if this happened,

(04:04):
and you know, we would give them feedback, well that
would never happen, or yeah, that has happened, and give
them an example in you know, history and professional sports.
You know, this is a very dramatic business and people
can't believe some of the things that actually have happened

(04:25):
and you know, continue to happen. And I think that's
what's going to be entertaining about it. But you know,
Kate Hudson as the title character, really nails the performance.
She's somebody that I've known since she was a teenager
and she used to come to the Great Western Forum
and watch the La Kings play with her her mom

(04:48):
and dad, and you know, she really she gets the
character and she's fantastic. She's she's a movie star that
we were able to convince to come in and h
you know, be part of this exciting project.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Did you hand pick her? Did you play a role
in hand picking her? And was this some competition for
her and ultimately getting this role or was it just
a situation where you just looked at it you knew
you automatically knew she's the one.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
You know, I suggested her to Mindy, and Mindy you know,
kind of set the expectation that Kate had never done
a you know, a series like this in her career,
and she's known as movie star, But now we see
how much crossover there is. You know, Nicole Kidman, Reese Witherspoon,

(05:41):
you know movie stars doing television, and she just nails
this part. I couldn't be more proud, and it's a
lot of fun to work with her after knowing her
all these years.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Genie Buss, what is life like for you right now?
I mean, I'm looking at the Los Angeles Lakers, and
I went from wondering whether or not they were gonna
make the playoffs to wondering whether or not you know
what they were going to do in the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Do y'all acquiring Luka Doncik to.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Being convinced that you aren't gonna be good enough to
really go deep into the playoffs, but obviously a block
bus to trade like that, essentially sending Anthony Davis away,
the great Anthony Davis away for the great Luka doncic
to looking at the Los Angeles Lakers this morning while
I'm talking to you about your Netflix series, and in
the same breadth that that's number one, I'm looking at

(06:34):
a basketball team that might end up number.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
One, because the Los Angeles Lakers have a.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Chance to win it all as far as I'm concerned
based on what I'm seeing.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
What is life like this afternoon for Janie Bus It's.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Pretty good in my world? What can I say? You know,
I want to make it clear that you know, when
you make a trade like that, especially in the middle
of a season, you know, you have to weigh so
many different, uh things that are going on. You know,
we have a rookie coach in JJ Reddick who has
shown a lot of promise and you know, you you

(07:12):
are concerned if you make a change that it's going
to disrupt what the coaches have been trying to teach.
And uh, you know, we we waited very carefully. We
were not looking to trade Anthony Davis, but when the
opportunity came up, we we had to look at the overall,

(07:33):
you know, long term vision of the team and what
we were trying to accomplish, and you know, we had
to make the tough decision to trade Anthony. And he's
been fantastic. He helped us win a ring. But in
receiving Luca, we have a player who has ignited our

(07:58):
fan base. You know, he he came to town and
you know, he had to process what had just happened,
like he had no idea he was going to be traded,
and but he he came to La and he saw
what had happened with the devastating wildfires, and he immediately

(08:18):
donated money to you know, the you know, the cause
of trying to rebuild it and and help you know,
people cope with losing what they've lost. And he's just
he's he's just been great. It's kind of a love
affair with the fans right now. The energy is at

(08:43):
Crypto dot Com arena is it's like it seems like
a playoff game, and you know, as he gets integrated
into what JJ and the coaching staff wanted him to do.
I think the win in Denver last weekend was you know,

(09:04):
phenomenal and really inspiring, considering Denver has been the team
that has put us out of the playoffs the last
few years. So it's really ignited a lot of.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Hope, Geenie.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Everybody wants to know what the secret sources, what the
secret source the success is because looking at the Los
Angeles Lakers franchise, I mean, my Lord Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem
Abdul Jabbar, Shack, Magic, Johnson Worthy, you know, ultimately Kobe Bryant.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Of course, you know the power gersuls.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Of the world, and and and you know the Lebron
James and now you know Anthony Davis, of course, and
now Luka Dancik.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
If you're a star.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
In professional basketball, it almost seems destined and ordained that
you are going to be a Los Angeles Laker. First
it was with your late great father, magnificent, magnificent man.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Everybody loved Doctor Buss to you. Now out, I mean,
how do you do it? I mean, what do you say?

Speaker 3 (10:04):
What is the allure in your in your eyes about
the purple and gold and lake a nation in the
Los Angeles Lakers.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
How does this keep happening for y'all?

Speaker 2 (10:13):
You know it is It's exactly what my dad taught me.
This was how you run a franchise. Getting Lebron to
join us as a free agent was one of the
first moves to show that we were serious about, you know,
getting back on track after missing the playoffs for six years.
But the power of the brand, the platform, the fan base,

(10:37):
the city in which we play, it all adds up.
And you know, as Doctor Buss taught me, you keep
us near the top or at the top or near
the top and that's what we've done and we will
continue to work hard to do. Certainly, I think we've
identified a coach who has you know, knows the NBA,

(11:04):
knows how to make a strategic plan, and that someone
who connects really well with his players. So, you know,
I think that gives us the foundation and we continue
to build and Rob Polinka has done an amazing job
identifying players that have that kind of competitive instinct, that

(11:26):
that desire to win, and you know, we you know,
continue to build the roster that way and everything comes together.
And certainly I have to thank Laker fans for you know,
there they are creating a uh an environment that visiting

(11:48):
teams are not going to be comfortable coming to play
the Lakers at home, and you need that kind of
uh you know, that intimidation of the visiting team, especially
during the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
You have a guy that I considered to be a
top candidate for Coach of the Year honors, and JJ
Reddick my buddy.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
They worked with me at ESPN. He did a phenomenal
job when he was working with us. He's doing a
phenomenal job with you now.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Rob Perlinker, Kobe's former agent turned executive for the Los
Angeles Lakers. As this GM, I think he's a candidate
for Executive of the Year.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
You hired them both, you gave the approval of both.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
But one of the things that folks were talking about
was this whole Anthony Davis Luca.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Dantis trade was a secret.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
It was kept from Lebron, it was kept from Clutch
Sports and stuff like that. They had no knowledge. It
was a shock to everybody. First of all, was that true?
And secondly, if that is how it happened, how were
you able to pull that off?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
You know, it wasn't that we were trying to keep
it from anyone specific. It was just about keeping a
lid on something that had a trade not worked out.
Then it sends repercussions around the team. And as I said,
we have a rookie coach that we want to try

(13:11):
to make things as smooth as possible, so trying to
you know, the trade talks were over a few weeks.
There was a lot of details that had to go into,
you know, the trade, and we had to create space
by bringing in another team and trading a player there

(13:33):
that could take on salary. So it was very complicated.
We were not trying to leave anybody out. What we
were trying to do was protect the team and allow
our coach and coaching staff to have the least amount
of distractions in a business where all there is our distractions,

(13:55):
people trying to get you off your name.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
But Jennie, were you concerned at all at any point
as to how this would negatively affect Lebron James simply
because of Anthony Davis's greatness along with his relationship with
Anthony Davis, because he had a lot to do with
Anthony Davis ultimately landing in LA years ago, were you
concerned about that at all?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, I mean, of course there is a lot of concerns,
especially doing it during the season, you know, but I
think back to when Doctor Buss traded Shaquille O'Neill. That
did happen in the off season. But you know, because
you know, you have to weigh everything, including how the

(14:36):
fans are going to react to losing somebody like Anthony Davis,
who was you know, we were building the team around.
He was our foundation. He brought us the championship, and
you know, how are they going to react? So you
have to weigh all of those considerations, and at the
end of the day, we did what was you know,

(14:58):
what we felt for our team was the best, and
they obviously agreed with what they received and that you know,
we had. And when people say, well, they only talk
to you, or they only talked to a couple teams,
you know, we had the piece that they wanted. They
wanted Anthony Davis, so that's why they weren't shopping it around.

(15:21):
They saw what they wanted and they came after it,
and we had to get through that decision process because
we hadn't even considered that before.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Right, wrong, fair or unfair. Some of the things that
have been said in the media prior to this trade,
whether you look at Lebron being the figure that he is,
Bronnie James being on the team, the whole opening season
celebration and stuff like that, they would say that Lebron
James is running the Los Angeles Lakers. Once the trade happened,

(15:53):
they said, that's Genie Bus's way of showing there's one
person running this organization, and that's Genie. Those who've said
such things like that, you say.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
What I say, you can interpret it anyway you want.
At the end of the day, I'm the governor of
the team, which means I'm ultimately responsible for all basketball
and business decisions for this team. And so, you know,
however you want to read that, you people can, but

(16:24):
we are very much, you know, always in communication with
our captains of the team. But in this circumstance, you know,
A d was one of the captains, so we you know,
we couldn't. There were just there was no way that
we could disrupt what, you know, because the team was

(16:45):
really starting to gel the way JJ has been coaching them,
and we really didn't want to disrupt that if this
wasn't going to be something that happened.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Last question on this particular subject. You know, when it
comes to a guy like Brian James, I like that kid.
I think he's got tremendous promise. I think that he's
gonna end up in the NBA, you know, somewhere in
the near future. I love what I've seen him doing
in the G League. I root for him. Everybody says
he's a great kid. I haven't seen one individual that
roots against him as far as I concerned. There's almost

(17:17):
it almost comes across in a human the root against
this kid because he just seems to be that absolutely
positively wonderful. Nevertheless, Lebron's gonna get critique because his son
was in the league before he was ready. Per se,
When somebody asked Genie Buss about Brinnie James, because I
know I'm not the first to do, so, what is
it that you say and what kind of message do

(17:38):
you want to send to the basketball world about Bronnie
James being a member of the Los Angeles Lakers, all
being in some folks eyes prematurely.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
He's been fantastic to work with. He's a draw in
for our G League team. He's been going up and
down between the two teams, and he does everything that
we asked him to do in terms of the community,
meeting with sponsors. He's just been He's fantastic. I wish
I had a complete team of players with his work ethic,

(18:12):
his attitude, his ability to see the game. You know,
I know what it's like to be the child of
a very successful man, and he's had to deal with
a lot growing up and he'll continue to do so
with grace. And you know, he's fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
JJ Reddick back to him speak to his impact on
an organization since you hired him last summer because I
knew he was going to be good, you know, working
with him on television, seeing him dissect and analyze basketball
the way that few can, I knew that he was
going to be good.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
I didn't expect.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
I expected you guys to elevate offensively, especially once you
got Luka Doncic.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
What I did not.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Expect is that over the last six plus weeks you'd
be the number one defense in the entire NBA. I
almost thinked when I think about that. I know he's
got a great staff and Nate McMillan, Scott Brooks and
the rest of the crew, but speak to the impact
that JJ Reddick has had on the organization.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
He comes in with a confidence, a swagger that you
know is inspiring. He's a natural leader. He's a great communicator.
He's a problem solver, and that's one of the things
that that is important in coaching in the NBA. So
many things come at you quickly that you have to

(19:35):
be able to make decisions, stand by your decision. If
things aren't working out, you know, be okay to move
away from that decision. But look, he surrounded himself, like
you said, with an excellent staff in Scottie Brooks, and
Nate McMillan and the very first female that we've ever

(19:57):
had on the coaching staff in Lindsay Harding, who as
coach of the Year in the G League last year. Uh.
And so you know, he's he's he's inspired not only
the team out on the court, but also the team
here in our business operation. Uh. There's something about JJ
that's professional and and calm and cool and collected. And

(20:22):
he's he's paid dividends. And you know, I didn't think
he'd be as as good as he is, but he
certainly has shown it. And we continue to give him
the resources that he needs, you know, to to You know,
he wants to win, and that's what we want to do,
and no question make it possible for him. However, we can.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
That brother is not going to be comfortable with mediocrity
or losing. I can assure you that you don't have
to worry. You don't have to worry about that at all.
Before I get to my last question about you, just
as an aside, a strange question, how are you feeling
about having the crypto dot com a rena to yourself
and not having the.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Share with the Los Angeles Clippers anymore? About that, you
know it.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
I thought we'd have like more dates, you know, less
back to bags. But you know that building is so
busy with the Grammy Awards and all the concerts that
they do. It's it's still just as busy. So they
they've replaced you know, those games that the Clippers played
with other events. And I've been to the Into It Dome.

(21:28):
I haven't seen a basketball game there yet. I went
to the Bruno Mars concert. It's beautiful building. It's in
our old neighborhood, Inglewood, you know, so it's great to
see Inglewood with getting another team, so you know, it's
been it's been great for both both of us.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
My last question would be to you because as you
sit here now, as you said it, Board of Governor,
you're responsible for all business and basketball decisions for the
Los Angeles Lakers franchise. To see now that you have
a generational, iconic basketball brand and your stable pretty much
for the next decade. I mean, a brother's only twenty

(22:08):
five years old in Luka Doncic.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
You see what Lebron James is doing.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
The success of the Los Angeles Lake is clearly you're
going to be in the picture. You're going to be
relevant for the foreseeable future. You're doing this in what
was once deemed at the very least as a man's game.
Clearly that is not the case anymore, primarily because of you.
And so when you look at Running Points streaming now
on Netflix, as you highlighted number one thus far, and

(22:34):
realizing a level of success that you've been enjoying, what
kind of message would you like to send about what
it took you to get to where you are, particularly
to the young ladies out there looking to aspire to
be great, great things. What kind of message do you
hope your Netflix series sense? What kind of message do

(22:55):
you hope your success as the owner for the Los
Angeles Lake is ultimately since.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Thank you for asking me that, because that is important
to me. I know what it meant to me growing
up to see women in positions of power, and I
hope that I can be an inspiration to the next generation.
But what I think has led to my success is

(23:22):
certainly being able to work with great people. But I
think we've learned that there are so many distractions with
social media, the negativity that's out there. You really have
to be able to, you know, push that aside. You know,
look at your own path and continue on it. You're

(23:45):
going to have people challenge you, try to knock you down,
but know who you are, know who your what your
truth is, and you know, go to the people who
support you, and you know it might be a small
circle of people, the people that you can trust and
believe in and that believe in you and aren't out

(24:10):
to knock you off and push you out of the way.
So if I can show resilience would be the word,
you know, then I've completed what Billy Jean King did
for me and inspiring me to pursue what was my passion.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
The one and only Genie Buss, owner for the Los
Angeles Lakers, executive producer on Running Point, streaming now on Netflix.
An absolutely wonderful, wonderful lady. And of course I got
to give love to Linda Rampis as well. You tell
Linda I said, gave all my best. I owe y'all
both dinner. Thank you so much, Genie, all the best
and I'll see you over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Okay, thank you.
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