September 3, 2025 • 47 mins
In this episode, we sit down with the internet’s fairy godmother of trends, Coco Mocoe, who promises to spill the secrets in just three easy steps. Spoiler: it’s not “quit your job, buy a ring light, and hope for the best.” Tune in for laughs, surprising anecdotes and maybe—just maybe—the blueprint to your viral moment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm like, what's your opinion? No one has it if
everyone's afraid of having the wronger table. She had fifty
thousand followers our first interview with her forty five million
views on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It was Charlie Demilio.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
It was one of the most intense, crazy crowds, like
in terms of fighting, like I'm not an it girl,
I'm that girl, but like thet but me and my
friends were just making that joke out.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
My name is Curly and I'm Maya. The super Secret
Bestie called Podcast. Season four is here and we're locked in.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
That means more juicy cheese man, terrible love advice, evil.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Spells, to casta on your ex.
Speaker 6 (00:34):
Yeah, we're not doing that this season.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Oh well, this season we're leveling up.
Speaker 6 (00:39):
Each episode will feature a special bestie and you're not
gonna want to miss it. So what are you waiting for? Kidding?
Speaker 7 (00:45):
Here?
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Oh my god, Coco MoCo's coming today.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
Curly Coco Mochel is like a cookie or or something
like that.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
It's cocomcol It sounds very creamy.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
She's here.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Hi, I'm a human, but you can eat me if
you want.
Speaker 7 (01:07):
Sounds like a yum here.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Gocals here. I know, everybody's like, did you get her.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
There? Like how where did that name?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's so funny because no one's ever like asked me
in a podcast, but anytime I meet people in person,
it's the first thing they asked. But it's because in
college my friends would call me Loco hot Coco as
a joke. So you guys know me from our job,
and my real name is Colleen, and so I didn't
want to make that my user name in case like
my coworkers found my TikTok. I'm like, I don't know,
Like that's embarrassing. So then I was like, I'll do
(01:48):
Coco Loco.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
That was taken.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And then the letter next to el and the alphabet
is M, so then I was like, Coco Moco, and then.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I threw an e at the M.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I'm glad you did that because local and.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Book yes, people always that.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Sometimes my comments will be like, you know that means
like sugar Burger or something, and it was.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Crazy, so like spoiler, I mean, we're gonna get into
it later. Like we all used to work at Buzzfy together,
and I did not like I saw you at an
Apple TV plus event. It was for the studio and
we like met Seth broken and it was like a
whole matter who.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Night, and then Kayla knew who you were, Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yeah, and I was you like caught that moment.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It was like really cute, and I was like, Cococo,
I'm like, wait, I know you and You're like it's
me clean like social and I had I was already
following you and I thought so, and I didn't make
the connection. So it was like two different people in
my head.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It's funny because I was probably talking to you like
we knew each other already, and You're like, how does
Coco already know me?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
She just like acts like she knows me already because
we did.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And in your defense, I felt like all of us
only really interacted on Slack except a few times.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
So that I didn't we do. Wasn't that like during
the era of like covid we.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I started at BuzzFeed March sixteenth, twenty twenty, so it
was the day I feel like they said everyone else.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
On zoom together a lot, and we were like trying
to figure out like how did you how to find
my niche how to find my thing? And you were helping,
and you were like, this is what we think and
then and I already was like you know, now I
feel like I'm back at it, But back then I
was like I'm tired, like I don't know what what
to do, what my lane is, And then you were
there kind of super like to be helpful.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And YE always been that, Like I remember when I
was like blowing up on reels, like the first time
you were like congratulating me and.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Like like she's a real one. That's what I was,
like a niche proud of. Last night we have like, well,
let me let me read your bio first. Yeah, it's
pretty crazy, okay.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Coco Mogo is a content creator, marketing strategist, and a
trend forecaster known for her sharp insights into pop culture,
creator culture, and digital media. I added this Basically, she's
an internet batty queen who knows what's.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Hot and what's not.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Yeah once, she's also her.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Own creator entity human beings or sweetheart, like girl, your
fits like your pictures.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Yeah, you've really got a lot of love. Last night,
we had a really serendipitous moment last night. It was
actually my first dinner situation at my place.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
It just curly bought house. I guess he's a homeowner.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
I'm currently a homeowner, And so I had my gurlies
over for the first time, super impromptu, like not wasn't
planned at all. Empress was like, when am I gonna
come over? And I was like, Empress of was like
and I'm like, I don't know Sunday. She's like, that's
too far away, like tonight. And so she texted mesh
Prada on our group chat and then we were talking
because our launch date was for the podcast podcast.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Was yes, August thirteenth, so we were like, just come
to the house, like we'll order food, come on in,
and we started talking about like social media and mish Prada,
who is just this phenomenal human actress talent, starts to
kind of lean into this.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Creator that she really loves and she starts to talk
about like the importance of this creator and she's like, yeah,
and her name is and in real time me and
Meyer were like, there's no fucking way that.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
She's The next day today we're interviewing Cocoke.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Yeah, like, there's no fucking way, and then she literally
goes Coco and we go our Vagina's open up sweet
warm and said, look at god serendipity.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
So, and I also want to get into you've been
a culture forecast, like as they say, and you've been
like reporting on like what's you know, going to be
trending and on like creators and stuff. But you started
like at BuzzFeed you you said, also you worked at
Famous Birthday.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yes, that was the where I like fine tuned the
skill with actually a Famous Birthday.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
And so when were you like, is it your intuition
kind of like leading you towards like wait I see
or are you like very analytical and logistical about what's
going to hit?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, there's there's like a little there's a kind of
system that I use in my own head and so
I and which I'll explain. But I fine tuned it
at Famous Birthdays. That was my first job out of
like college and corporate world. And I was there in
twenty nineteen. They just changed the name from Musically to TikTok.
And my the guy who owns fans Birthday's name is Evan.
(06:34):
He's like brilliant at the Internet and he hired me
to just be like run the TikTok. But also, if
you think anyone's going to get famous on TikTok, just
like invite them into interview them because no one's interviewing these.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Kids yet, so like we'll be the first. So it's like, okay, cool.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I started inviting people in and then one girl I
invited in, she had fifty thousand followers, our first interview
with her forty five million views on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
It was Charlie Timilio.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Wow, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Then we got in Addison, and then we got in
Brittany Broski, and I was like, and some of it
was me, some of it was my team. There were
also really brilliant people working there too that were part
of this. But I was like, okay, wait, this is
something I'm good at, Like I'm good at finding these people.
So then because of those videos I produced at famous birthdays,
I'd applied for like a fellowship.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Bit BuzzFeed, which is like an internship.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
But they reached out and were like, do you just
actually want to run our TikTok team? But yeah, So
there's actually like a system. When I think someone's about
to become famous, it's where what happens first is someone
becomes famous by like trial and error, they find something
that sticks then they start repeating it over and over
and then this is how you know it's about to
(07:39):
stick is if people start talking about it from like
I call it like social proof. It's like a third party.
So it can't be their friend, can't be their manager,
their team. It has to be like like someone random,
like a streamer in India brings up Ace from Love
Island and you're like, oh wait, like there's like some
(08:00):
something happening outside of that. So like with Charlie Demilio,
I knew she was about to pop off because her
tiktoks it was when you could only do like fifteen seconds,
they would go viral, which is like that's that second stage,
but they're not famous yet. They were like it became
the saying where high schoolers were duetting her tiktoks, being
like why does this girl have the hype and stuff,
(08:21):
which was like mean spirited, but it made her famous.
Oh yeah, So yeah, if I see someone start talking
about people that aren't in their orbit, I'm like, oh,
they're breaking out of their snow globe, Like this thing's
about to pop.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Wow, And have you seen that people are that that's changing,
Like the reason for why that might happen has changed,
Like do you feel like people before you kind of
kind of touched up on it was a little bit
of like a hate.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, it's a little bit like the problematically.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Yeah, it wasn't like, oh my god, I love her
so much. It started with a little bit of ill.
And then why do you think that that's still the
way that things happened? Do you think that being problematic
is the way to go these days?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Or I don't.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So I hate the saying that's like all press is
good press because I don't actually think that's true. But
I think what you're hinting at is this walks a
fine line with that where I made a video recently
where I was talking about, like there's this girlhooda on
Love Island that like is so polarizing, Like you're not
going to meet someone that watched Love Island.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's like I'm indifferent.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
People either love her or hate her, and I like
some advice I give. What I'm consulting is like you
can't smell popular without a po laar.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
So there's that polarizing So like yeah, you're like, what
is that?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, but like also there's that And so when I
made that video, someone in my comment section said something
so interesting that was like, in order to be magnetic,
you have to be repellent. So there is that feeling
of like there's a there, but then but I think
that happens on accident. A lot of people that are
polarizing don't mean to be polarizing, Like I think that
(09:53):
they're just showing up and for whatever reason, like people
are just polarized by them. But whenever people people try
to manufacture that, that's when it comes off, is like
they're trying too hard to like make something or they're
trying to push the boundaries for attention, and audiences are
pretty smart at picking up on that.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Okay, Yeah, I feel like it's it's interesting because I
do feel like we worked at buzzfeedut better, like we
were polarizing because of some of the issues we would
bring up and talk about, and especially like I would
talk about not feeling enough in my culture and like
not knowing Spanish and learning Spanish, and like I can
(10:32):
see how each of us in our own lane kind
of like popped off and now I feel like a
little exhausted, like I don't want to keep rubbing people
the wrong way, or like I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
It's like, how do you see the future.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Of like content creation and creators who have been seasoned
and into it, Like what is the future? Like what?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah? Like is your question? Like can you be polarizing
for long?
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Like like and you still do without being polarizing?
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Been canceled three times, three and a half times, and
I hate it half. I hate it so much. Yeah,
and I'm like I hate it.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yeah, but it's kind of like canl That's like people
create memes about me, like it go like viral on Twitter,
like people like losing a ship ton of followers by
the way for things that like I don't didn't have
control over, they just we the I interviewed Vice president
Kama Harrison.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
I tracked for it, like you know what I mean,
like crazy stuff. Yeah, I get why anyways, long story ship,
but like you know, and that as you get older
in this business and stuff too, like it is exhausting
to get Even Cardi b I feel like, talks about
how she's just so tired of like all the hate
comments that she gets, like.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Oh, she's so well.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
She was just talking about what's that mag Meason Tyler Tyler,
she was just defending Tyler the other day because she
was saying, how like Tyler doesn't do anything. She's like,
Tyler didn't even talk and Tyler has haters. So it's
like to your point, like what you do to like
a creator, Like how are you gonna like you were saying,
like how does somebody who is like what if you.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Don't want to be polarizing?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I know, And again like I think the polarizing happens
on accident. Like There's been times where I've done something
that was polarizing and I'm like I didn't even think
that was what they were going to hold on too
from that interview or whatever. Like sometimes you can't really
control it. I think it's just part of the game.
I think what happens with really big creators is they
just have a team around them that insulates them. So
(12:29):
like someone like a Taylor Swift isn't reading the comments
and so I think like eventually, if you are going
to be that level of a creator and you want
to do this for a long time, you have to
find ways to insulate yourself. Also, I would say there's
been times where I feel like I've been you know,
dragged online, Like like for me, like I always tell people.
(12:50):
I'm like super open about it. I'm like, I believe
Blake Lively and like I know that that's I'm probably
gonna get dragged in comments anytime I say that. But
coming out of that actually made me more confident, and
I think actually gave me an interesting relationship with my
audience where I was like, this is what I stand
on at least you guys know I'm not swayed by
popular opinion. Like you guys can disagree with me, but
like this is and it kind of made me more
(13:11):
confident myself.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I was like, I don't care, Like this is what
I think right now.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It could change, but I don't care if you guys
disagree with me, that's okay. Yeah, yeah, I just kind
of like gained confidence in a way because that's what I.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Find too with a lot of creators, is that like
there And we talked, we were literally talking about this
at dinner last night. Was just like I do think
that when you're young, you're a little reckless. And I
just remember, like I'm twenty five years old, twenty six
years old going into BuzzFeed part of and I was
still working in the kitchen right like I started serving
their lunches and they would record me talking. And the
(13:42):
reason why I started to go viral so quickly was
that with them was because I was reckless with my shit,
because I would be like that's most like foreskin and
people would be like, oh my god, what the fuck?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Like shit like that.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
And then as I got older and I started getting
canceled and dragged, and as I found that it was
hurting my feelings, I can understand, you know, like this
this hurts because I'm not this person that that they're
painting me to be online. And then you wonder, like
with younger creators who like they don't want that and
they don't maybe necessarily have the ability to, I could
(14:14):
ke keep growing, you know what I mean, Like I
was still on a major platform where I could be like,
what you guys are painting over here is not true,
and I can show you with my continued body of work.
But maybe some people go like once I get canceled,
that might be the end of it for me, Like
what do you feel about that?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Like I do think a lot of people once they
get their first one or like, this isn't for me,
And I totally understand. That's why I always say, like,
and you know, I'm not the first person to say this.
It's kind of this belief that has already existed before me.
But that and you know, virality and fame are on
different levels, but that fame can actually be like a
type of trauma, and like like there's like so many
(14:51):
you go through different stages like denial that this is
happening and then anger, and like there there is that
trauma that can happen. Maybe like the three of us,
I think probably have an interesting relationship with it because
like for me coming from BuzzFeed, I was never on
camera at BuzzFeed, but I felt like I learned from
the best, like from people that were on camera, like
you guys, and it's like there. And also being at
(15:13):
BuzzFeed was polarizing even now when I tell people I
worked there, people have different opinions, but like I felt
insulated in that there were like one hundred people on
the social team that are monitoring comments, Like I don't
us call.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
It the palace?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Was like we didn't really.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Maybe it's harder now that we're all doing our own thing,
because like I came from a place where it felt
insulated and that like I maybe wasn't the one that
I actually was probably the one monitoring the comments for
like you guys, like I'd be helping posts on socials
and like because it wasn't me that was getting the feedback,
like it was easier to monitor.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But I do think that.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Like, there are a lot of people that aren't, Like
that's why this career isn't always longevity for some people.
I think actually the older that you become famous or
go viral online, the longer you can last. So like
(16:20):
if you're in your mid twenties when it happens or later,
you're more set in who you are as a person,
you can handle it. Like I think that I would
have been reckless and crazy at twenty one if.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I had this pform.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I wouldn't like and I was still like, I think,
smart and aware and empathetic, but like, yeah, you're frontal
of just like aren't de belt.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Like I'm not a doctor, but I'm just saying like
you're just not there.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So you you mentioned like the
brain earlier too. I used to One of my first
jobs is working at David Lusha Post Studios, and we
would have celebrities there all the time, Megastars, God God,
Naomi Campbell, Chris Rock and I used to I have
this thing that I always talking about celebrity brain, where
like sometimes you would have celebrity come in and be like, oh, hey,
what's up? Guys, Like where do you want me to say? Okay? So,
and then you have other celebrities that come in and
(17:01):
like what's a chair? I don't understand, Like what do
you like?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Just like people do things for them that they're almost
checked out, gone, yeah, like they have no sense reality.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
So like even just like talking. I think there's a
doctor named doctor Amon who talks about like the actual
structure of the brain. And he was saying that celebrities
brains morph because of all the different chemicals that are
going on when you are exposed to huge amounts of
fame and attention. And I feel like on a lot
of different levels, these creators, these young people are being
hit with all these like chemicals in their brain and
(17:33):
you're kind of just like you just want to it's
okay to just want to put a ticket.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Do you have chemicals in your brain?
Speaker 6 (17:40):
You know?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
What's actually so interesting when you say that is something
I've noticed since I started interviewing artists, so like more
music artists, yeah, but some of the bigger ones that
I've interviewed, they all did this. I think it was
like subconscious, like I don't even think they noticed they
were doing it, but when they were so we would
sit in the this movie theater and watch their music
videos and then they would break it down for me.
(18:01):
When they began talking about themselves on the screen, they
would switch into third person. They'd be like, so, she's
doing this move, so like Jay did it from Little
Mix Adella who Adela was big on pop Star Academy
cats I, but then like she got a ton of
hate and now she has a beloved fandom. Again, that
like polarizing. And there's one other person I can't think of,
(18:21):
but when they were describing their music videos, they were
referring to themselves a third person.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I think that's like a defense mechanism. And I've actually.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Noticed like sometimes I'll do it where if something happens,
I'll be like, well me, Colleen, like I'm at dinner
with my parents.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Coco's the one who's like getting the hate, like not me,
Like she can handle it. That's like someone on the gah.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So I almost think there's like a switching that happens
where it's like, that's why so many of them have
like stage names and stuff, because it's like that's they're
dealing with it, not me.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
By the way, she has a show with Spotify.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yes, called middle Row, but you can watch it on
YouTube we Spotify and it's where. So back to the
thing about like trend predicting. I was going viral in
like twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four making all these
trend prediction videos and then I was like, let me
just put my mouth where my money is or my
money where my mouth is, and like, let me just
(19:17):
show if I can actually do it, if I can
interview people right before they blow up. So then I
was like, let me just start a show, and then
I did. Yeah, so that I just wanted to do
a show in a movie theater because I love movie theaters,
and I was like, how does no one have a
show in a movie theater. The reason is it's actually
logistically kind of hard to figure out.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It's like there's just a lot of moving parts.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
But so yeah, so I have the show Middle Row
with Cocomoco, where every episode I interview artists as we
break down their music videos, and it's artists that I
think are like about to take offs and then sometimes
it's more established.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah, recently was Eli d doll Yes Obsessed and that
was really good.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, she had been getting shout outs from like choice
ofvon Doci.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
That's why to her. Yeah, I was like, oh, she's
breaking that snow glow.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
What do you think like happened there?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Like, I mean, well, I also just think with Eli,
the music was really good. So if you guys are
listening on like a music platform, it's Girl of Your
Dreams is like the song that was really popping off
for her, And I think the music.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Was actually just really good.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Like I was on a panel a few years ago
and someone on the panel said something so smart. They're like,
you like talking about marketing. They're like, you can't make
people want to buy things. You have to make things
people want to buy, Like marketing can only go so far,
Like you have to still make a good product. So like,
I think Eli just made a really good song. And
then you know, a lot of it is luck that
the stars align at the right time, and then don't.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
You it was like the esthetics like yeah, you know
the Y two K of it All and mary Anne
is a good song, yeah, hers, Like it was like
a moment where like all of these I told you
about it, Like all of these artists were like using
this song and I think like as musicians. And we
were just when we were talking to Empress of earlier,
(21:02):
like she's like, I'm an artist, I'm not an influencer
or content creator, you know, and it's like it's just
that kind of world where it's like you also need
to like pimp out your stuff unfortunately, but then it's
like how do you not lose like that artistry? And
then we were talking about like, you know, maybe is
it like do we not want to look like we're
trying too hard or whatever? And we were talking about
(21:24):
your stories the other day, which snowballed into like Niche
talking about like the creator about you know, and Cocomoco
and I had watched a bunch of videos before and
where they were like people are gonna hate what you're
gonna make and who cares because like they've never taken
a risk before in their lives or they've never bet
(21:44):
on themselves, you know. And you had this like Instagram
story the other day talking about like I don't know
exactly what happens.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Oh, it was just my Instagram comments were like, you
try too hard. Now, you try too hard to be cool.
You try this, you try that. I was like, first
of all, I went to San Diego say I've been
cool like that.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Girl.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
That was good.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I was like, they were like, you're trying to be
an it girl. I was like, I'm not an it girl.
I'm that girl. But like me and my friends were
just making that joke because they were prompting it at
a festival. But like in the words of Addison Ray,
she once said in her interview, I think it was
with like when Lynn Blackwell, she was like people always
say you try too hard, you try too hard, and
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she's like, well, maybe you should try a little harder
because we can can tell you're not And I know
you said that too.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Where Why are you not try?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Why are you trying? Yeah, I'm trying. Sorry, I'm trying.
What do you want me to do?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I try, harked earlier, and I was like, I tried
really hard on my today Goco.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I was like, we should be trying, like you guys
should be grateful.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
I'm trying that guy from the Dire the CEO was
just saying, like the price of entry is cringe, Like
to make people cringe, like you have to kind of
be yourself. And you know, it's funny now because like
I'll look at people and be like, no, bis you
cringe for free? I cringe for a check, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Like no, we're always like.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Yeah, I'm like no, no, no, when I'm getting paid.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Were aware of it. We're aware of it.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
And it's not it's not to like say like I mean,
but it's literally like you're like, you know, like you're
talking so much shit, and yeah, we're aware of it.
I'm aware that I'm in a fucking duck costume and
I'm like swimming in a pond for a check. But
like I got to pay my bills and that's the
whole thing. So while you're sitting at home, it is fun,
you know, but like I think that I'm not trying
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to be like I'm better than or anything like that,
but it's like in order to get to what you
want to do, you're going to look. If you watch
any early Beyonce performances from like back in the day
when Crazy and Love came out. She was not hitting
her marks. Beyonce was not hitting her things. She was
giving a little too hard hard. And I'm talking about
somebody who like I will go into I'm part of
(23:53):
the behave, I will go and spend time, you know,
protecting her in the comment section that she doesn't care about,
but like she now is like thiselebrity celebrities, right, yeah,
And so it's like and another thing that I tell
people too is that I'm like, if you look at
somebody like a Kim K who is maybe universally recognized
as the influencer, maybe Paris Hilton or Kim K. But
I'm like, you can't be afraid to be ugly. And
(24:14):
I've been seeing this for years, and you can't be
afraid of getting canceled unfortunately, And I'm like, look at
how many times those girls have been canceled, and look
at how much of their ugly we've seen. I mean,
we've seen their juhas at this. Yeah, like we it's fine,
you'll live, you'll survive. Go do what you want to
do if you want to do it. Because on the
flip side, cut to like a ten year career now
at this point and we talk about all the time,
(24:35):
feeling like the the Warner brother Frog Yeah, hello baby.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Oh yeah, like Taylor Swift The Life of a Showgirl.
I say, like I'm a retired internet showgirl or washed
up internet showgirl. Not derogatory, just like silly goofy. Yeah,
but like, yeah, I feel like we've been performing. But yeah,
it's because in the beginning we didn't give a fuck
about like whether you know, we were making a silly
face or whatever it was like. And I feel like,
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you know, I think what they were saying for you,
like you're trying to be this and that, like I
see you in your outfits, I see you at these premieres,
like that's what they think is trying too hard, Like
you look amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Thank you, look fabulous, thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
And it's this thing that I realize that when people
first meet us, they create this version of us and
file it in their brains, and then when we show
up differently, whether we cut our hair or like you know,
lose weight or gain weight or whatever it is, change
our bodies, it like cracks something in their brain where
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they have to reassess their version of us, which like
disrupts their own comfort. And I find that too, with
like family members or partners or like other friends who
are kind of like frenemies, and it's like, why aren't
you trying harder? Like why aren't like why am I
polarizing to you when like you have accessibility to.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
What I'm doing, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And So I think that's a lot of people's kind
of like challenge with starting to be a creator influencers.
They don't want to look like they're trying too hard,
So like what would you.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Say to them?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I'd be like I would be worried if you look
like you're not trying enough, Like, yeah, you should try hard,
like put yourself out there, swing and miss a million times,
like I think even for me, I've been doing this
for probably three or four years because yeah, I wasn't
on camera at BuzzFeed, but like I I have like
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over a million followers because maybe only five percent of
what I do works. That other ninety five percent, I'm
like swinging and missing and no one's watching it, but
I'm still showing up like you should be Yeah, like
you really should be trying. Like when I like, I
always think in analogies and I did I did all
start cheer growing up?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And when you're learning new flips.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
They always say like you're gonna learn ninety five ways
or ninety nine ways to fall before you learn how
to land. Like the first thing they teach you when
you start cheer is how to fall, like they like,
land on your knees, don't put your elbows straight out
like they like. They spend lessons teaching how to fall
before they start to right A.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Person too, thinking analogies, I'm like, save me too.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I always tell people like, should we get into chair
to cheerleadingading?
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Oh, cheerleading? I wanted to. Oh my god, I wanted to.
And I was going to sign up that day on
a Tuesday afternoon, and I saw them practicing and flipping
and running around, and I was like, for me, you
have to run.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
I thought it was going to be like, okay, all right,
cute little uniform, like bring it on, being a part
of a cool team. I didn't realize I had the sweat,
so I was like, I'm not okay, or carry the
girls like I don't like carrying the girls anyway, like
not a cheerleaders. But oh man, I wanted to ask
you somethings. No, I went back to cheerleading in my
(27:56):
breast analogies, oh, failing analogies and fail yeah, yeah, because
I just I'm always just like even I'm like, it's
kind of not that serious, like I had to like watch,
I had a cake right to watch a shit ton
of content a lot, just like studying, just watching and
being like, there's so many creatives out there who have
millions of followers who are truly just not even putting
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that much thought into it. They're just releasing stuff and
sometimes they're just like copy and pasting, that's all it is.
And so it's like find your thing, copy and so
right now, my thing that I tell people is I say, like,
experiment with your content, find a signal. Once you find it,
copy and paste.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Exactly until it runs dry and it's gonna feel annoying
to you.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
That's how you grow, exactly for people, because what we're
seeing too, like one of my other best se Chantell Houston,
who was on Lady, Like you know, she builds platforms
for a living, and we're like if one video, let's
say you're wearing this pink suit and you're dancing around
and that's your thing, you wear pink, and people go
to your page, they're gonna want to see more videos
of you wearing this pink dancing around that if you
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just have that one off, like they're gonna be like, oh,
that's not what I thought it was. But you won't
get there unless you're experimenting and trying. So I think
that's your point. I really think that that it is.
I love that so much because that even feels good
for me, like you're making right, I am gonna go
home and fucking swing a bunch of times and not
following my elbows and bend my knees and.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah that's how Yeah, that's truly what
it is, is like, and the repeating is so important.
I think I learned that even like it BuzzFeed, because
we would have to grow all these random offshoot.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Like a vegan food account, like what do I know
about vegan food and that?
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Yeah yeah, and it would be.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Like you just find one format that worked once and
have them do it over and over and over.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
And over again. Yeah yeah, that's like what works.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
It'll be if it's boring to you, then it's probably working,
is how it is, Like you can still enjoy it,
but like it has to be repetitive there's this one
guy right now that's growing so much on TikTok and
I just realized that he follows me, and I was like,
I like, I was so honored, and he basically whiz
on stage with Ian at Lolla Pluza.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
The guy that did the song is.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Like, hmm, oh yeah, it's rolling in the Deep.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I feel like Adele that song he did the double
excels this rapper. And there's this guy that made this
song popular where he just like jumps on the beat
and now he's like on stage with Ian. He's like
doing it with all these celebrities. It's the same song
on his TikTok for the last month. He's done that
one audio over and it's like a.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Trend to exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
It's all he does, and he's millions of followers. One
trend over.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
And over, that's what it is. And then there's also
just like the fact that you're fucking hot.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I guess that didn't.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Mean by the way, because like on like gay instagram ship,
like it's all these hot men who just posts all
these sexy photos. They don't see a single fucking word,
and then they have all these followers, and I'm always
like talk. Let's hear your voice, your opinion. How many
people like you after they hear your stupid as boys
(30:57):
and opinion?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I wish it was it was I've never grown from
like a hot photo.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I'm like, I.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Wish Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Okay, let's get into the astrology of the podcast, because
Homegirl knows her astrology.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
I didn't realize that that was your bread and butter
for a long time, and that's kind of like my
bread and butter right.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Now, which really it's so good.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
I mean, I'll bother you later, but like it kind
of I kind of stumbled upon it because I just
was like just throw away videos like I really don't
give a shit, this is what I think, and that
people are like yeah, because it's.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Like your opinion on the signs verresus, like this is
what yeah, is happening for Leo?
Speaker 6 (31:35):
But is that what you because for me, I try
not to watch anything or how were you doing?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I like, I well because I got into TikTok because
I loved like taro and stuff, and then like me
and my friends would do taro for fun and then like.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
But I understood.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I always feel like I'm good at knowing my lane,
I would make astrology videos and I would preface like
I'm not an expert, like there are people that are
experts like study this, like that's not me. I'm just
doing it for fun.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
M h.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
So yeah, I just but astrology to me is fascinating.
I think astrologers are like you know, they study patterns
and behaviors, and I think that's something that like.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
I like, that's what I like. I try not to
watch anything, and what I do is I think about
every area. What's your sign? What's your sign? By I
know we have a big three ready.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Aquarius moon, son Sun.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Oh, I think that okay, Aquarious sun, Gemini moon, yes,
rising Sagittarius.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Wow, how do you get any of your tasks done?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I know I'm so air.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I know I also want to hear what you were
saying too. But I the Gemini moon makes so much.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Well.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Aquarius makes sense because I'm so like the moment something's popular,
I'm like I don't want it, like I need to
be different.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's the Aquarius.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
But like the Gemini moon makes sense because like moon,
I think of it is where you get your confidence.
Gemini rules the third house and it's the sign of
like technology, algorithms, communication, and like I get my confidence
through understanding algorithms.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Wow the way literally.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yes yeah, and then sad rising is just I think
sad is just like the good luck one, like.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
The Showgirl too.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
You you m press and are going to be the
trifecta because Gemini Empress is Libra.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yes, yes, But to your point about like not watching,
I actually I don't know if this is what you're
getting at, but like I and I did this too
when I would do like astrology, trend prediction, pop culture videos, whatever.
I cannot watch people in my niche. And I'm friends
with them, I love them. I'm out to dinner with
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them every night, and I tell them I love them,
and they'll talk their videos through me in person.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
They know I can't watch their videos.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I cannot watch people's videos in my niche because I'll
subconsciously like internalize it. I'll compare myself, but I'll also
I'm afraid that I'm going to copy them.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Want things even with us, like we're best friends, and
sometimes I know I can feel that I'm like, oh shit,
I feel like that came from something Mina said six
years ago.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
We're blended.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
But I always want to give other creatives their credit.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
In the same I always try to give credit and.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Like I don't want to like ever create and it's
hard to create them, right, because you're creating from the
heart in a lot of different ways. You have to write,
and when you're creating pushing this content out, it's coming
from a very organic place, not because you're inspired or
you're like aggregating different ideas, right, So, like you know,
to your point, not watching, I love that you do
that as well. I do sometimes will look at like
(34:52):
if it's somebody else, Like let's say, like we were
talking to Mpress and we're talking about music, I'm like, oh,
let me go look at other musicians and see what
we're doing. Yeah, But to your point, in my own
niche like, I just won't. I don't. I love that
my dad's and Aquarius and I love that you said that.
If it's popular, I don't want it because I think
I got that from my dad too. If it's quoite,
I don't care. I don't want it. I'm gonna go
do this and be in my own lane exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
To our own dutchment. I'm like, okay, fine, I can
admit to.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Herself that's good music.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
But I'm like, she's so popular. I'm like, I have
to find this.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
But yeah, but I I cannot watch people in my niche.
But I also believe in there's this concept that not
this episode being like so spiritual, like woo woo, but
like there's this concept that was spoken about in this
book Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
She wrote Eat, Pray, Love, and Made with Gilbert.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, so she has a book called Big Magic. And
then also Rick Rubin wrote a book called The Creative Act,
I think, and so they I read both books and
it was interesting because they both talked about it where
they basically have this belief that there's this cloud that exists.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
And like this too.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yes, we're like, say, there'll be an idea, say, like
the fact that Hot Ones and Chicken Shop date exists
and got probably at the same time.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I think it came from the same cloud.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
So what they say is that like, say there's an idea, Okay,
there's going to be a popular show in the late
twenty tens and twenty twenties about celebrities eating chicken. It'll
be floating around the universe like a cloud and it's
waiting for someone to bring it to life, and it'll
go to someone and if that person is trying to
bring it to life, it might stick with them. If
that person isn't working at it, it'll bounce to someone
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either in their network or near them. And until that idea,
it's basically like the idea is ready to come to life,
whoever has like a rain bucket ready to catch it.
And Elizabeth Gilbert in her book said that she had
this idea for a book. It was a fiction book
about like nurses in Brazil during World War Two, and
she got this huge stipend to write it because of
the success of Eat, Pray Love. She could not write
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it for the life of her. It just was she
had a writer's block. She went to a convention, saw
a friend, hugged her. They didn't talk about the book.
Years later, that friend puts out a book. It becomes
a bestseller, and it was about nurses in Brazil during
the World War two, and she.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Calls her up.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
She's like, whoa, this is so crazy, Like how did
you get that idea? She's like, it's so crazy. When
I saw you at that convention, it like came to
me and Elizabeth was like, what if this cloud jumped
from me to her?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Was like, You're not going to bring me life. I'm
going to come from you know.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Michael Jackson used to talk about that, yes, where he
would say Michael Jackson needed to hop on something that
was where that prince was going it. And so I
have this thing where when I think of something, I
try to bury it because I my weird thought is
that if I don't think about it, I won't Hey,
there you go. So I kind of like nurtured it
and I hide it a little bit. But I'm very
big on that idea too, that like you know, people
(37:38):
were all pulling from the same source. Your mom says
that all the time, where she's like different ideas like
for you, yeah, act on it.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Gilbert also talks about when the inspiration hits I love
her by the way. She has an incredible ted talk
where she talks about creativity, which I highly recommend people
listen to you.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I think you can watch it.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
She talks about how there's a friend who's poet and
sometimes the inspiration would hit her when she was far
away from paper, and so they would do this thing
where like come at a better time, or she would
do this thing where she would start running from the
paper and as she felt the poem leaving her, she
would write the poem from end to beginning, as if
she was pulling it back from like a sale, and
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like writing it down so that she would have it.
And so I think, like you know, creatives, we do
have that thing where we all are in tune with
each other. And I think that for me, the reason
why I think so many people have anxiety or depression
or different thoughts is that we are all small universes
that are meant to create in a lot of different ways.
And if we are creating, no matter what it is, like,
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you'll at least have I think a semblance of happiness
some capacity. So like kind of going back to what
we were saying earlier, like just shoot your shot, virgo.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Oh really, okay?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
You so you have a lot of that like that
one time of year, which is like fall, summer ish.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (39:02):
Oh, you mean like I'm a circle.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
It's like it's probably a stellium on one side of
the charge.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
You're scorpio celium, or I think a virgo celium because.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Your venus is virgo.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
My Mercury is in Virgo. Mostly it's mostly all scorpion virgo. Okay,
but I'm just really like, I feel like I'm like
I call myself a B type Virgo. I'm a pick
me virgo because I'm not like everything has to be perfect.
I'm very much like younger ship, like you know this,
I'm like whatever, there's certain things that I care about,
but there's I have an opinion.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
On things, but I love that, and we need to
bring back opinions because that's what kills me, especially in
the pop culture world, is like no one has a
fucking opinion on anything.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
They're just like Taylor's was popular right now.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I think everything she does is great and it's amazing,
and I'm like, what's your opinion?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
No one has. Everyone's afraid of having the wrong right.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Honest. I don't get it because I don't understand, Like,
I don't understand, and I just Taylor Space.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
What's Taylor's Sagittarius.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
She's sag and then a bunch of Scorpio.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
I think free ball safe space is what I meant
to say. Okay, I don't understand her lyricism. People like
h Larynx are just so amazing, and I'm like, I
think I could maybe do that.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
He's like, I'm wucking in the and there in the.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
H and then just like your voice agility, Like I'm like,
have y'all heard Jazmine Sullivan saying.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
She's a vocalist at all?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I think she's a great poet and lyricist.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
I think there's just like a lot of it, And
I think the culture she has created sometimes like I mean,
maybe she's not responsible for her fandom as much, but
I just can't like fuck with it because of the fandom.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
The fandom scares me.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
And I think Taylor's fandom is one of their well,
I think a lot of their fandoms is the reason
there's no more opinions in pop culture because you could
say like one thing and it's like, oh my god,
like you want them dead. It's like, no, I just
had an opinion. If anything, it's a sign of respect
to the artist that you're like, I'm actually like I
like this what you've done. Maybe this one thing I
didn't like, Like, yeah, they're not a monolith.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Sandom ruins it times where I know a lot of
a lot of my close friends are tea Swift fans
and I love nineteen eighty nine. That's like my album,
and I'm I'm excited for her music and stuff. But
I just feel like every time something comes out, I'm like,
no boiler I can because it's always like, oh my god,
and I'm like, yeah, I know that's how we look.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Like right last Shower or life of a show a show.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Girl, and like, I know that's how we look when
anything Beyonce happens. But it's a movement Beyonce. It's a
movement like cultural spirits.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
It's woo woo, but also too, like you can be critical. Literally,
we were like, I don't like her music. I'm like,
but you can still like honor, like the craftsmanship exactly practices.
So like Taylor, I don't like her music, I'm happy
to exist.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Astrology turned into.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
You know, I feel that way about to I just
I don't understand it, but I'm so happy he exists.
As Bruno Mars, like I feel nothing, nothing happens.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I can I say something about Bruno Mars. I went
to a Bruno Mars concert last year, and it was
one of the most intense, crazy crowds, like in terms
of fighting.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Like Bruno.
Speaker 5 (42:28):
I can feel that.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
I can see it was a weird energy, Like was
the weirdest energy I've ever seen. I was like, yeah,
maybe like like older millennials and so they were like
drinking and like like it was like they were in
I was like, Bruno Mars, why are you guys like
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fist fighting? To Bruno Mars, it's a damn.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I don't think that's him.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
That's I was trying to the Lady if.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
The World, which I will say I was there and
it was I got to see that song performed for
the first time, so it was very cool. But all
the people that were fistfighting left the venue or got
kicked out before they even.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Got to see. So I was like, that's what you
get for being crazy through no Mark.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Okay, let's make one astrology question in you wanted to ask,
like what sign do you not? Oh?
Speaker 6 (43:33):
Yeah, which is the sign that you feel I have
an opinion?
Speaker 5 (43:37):
You can have an opinion save space?
Speaker 6 (43:38):
Yeah, I have three. Who is a sign that you're
like I feel like, I'm like, Girl get it Together?
On today's episode of Girl Get It Together, which sign
do you think you know? I?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Well, Aquarius?
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Men, first of all, are I have always done me dirty.
But I will say I don't know. It's not that
I don't that I just don't know any libras. I
think you said I could name this many libras in
my life. I have so many leos in my life. Okay,
for some reason, watch what.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
I said that four.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Months ago and now they're in your life? Was no
one born in September or like early October?
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Like where are the libras?
Speaker 6 (44:21):
Yeah, they just don't know any Yeah. Literally, she's on
her way.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Oh my god, Okay, there we go. She's outside.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
But like in terms of like the men that have
done me the most dirty, or Aquarius men, like straight aquarious.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
Men, you know what, the guy who kind of triggered
my alcohol problem in my teens. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
I just want to say, Sagittarius men are evil.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
Do they exist?
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I've got out of men.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
They're evil and disgusting. They exist because they terrorize me.
That's why they call them terrorists. They call them suge
terrorists because they terrorized your heart.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I just feel like straight men are not ver Sagittarius.
Speaker 6 (45:01):
I feel like straight.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Any zodiac good also Sagittarius.
Speaker 6 (45:06):
Every time I post any video about any sign and
I'm they're like, oh this Pisces or Virgo this or whatever.
I'm like and the minute they bring up straight men
and like, oh, you're not talking about baths and queer
people and women like, you're talking about straight men. Like
and they are to me and my head are going
to represent you in the terror when you get it,
when you get the flipped version of reverse to me,
the man version every zod if everything is reversed, either the.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Tower card or the devil card.
Speaker 6 (45:32):
Yeah, or like I know because straight man, the straight
male virgos like like my signs they're insane. I'm like what,
because okay, we're an insecure sign. So the thing with
us is that, like we will we're confident, but we're
very critical of ourselves. And what we'll do is we'll
project that criticism onto the people around us and who
we love, Like, oh, that's an interesting pair of shoes
(45:54):
you decided to throw on today, but it's like, you know,
it's like no one's fucking business, right, So like when
the virgo kind of gets a little bit more therapy
and and gets better, he'll learn that those are exactly
the show she wanted to wear, and that's fine. But
I think to meet so to me the earth science
and tourists, I'm like, get it together.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
And that concludes the astrology a portion of the podcast.
Coca having me.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
I feel like we could talk for hours.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. If they want me,
I'm here for sure.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
We want you all the time. And then we literally
are going to go have some coffee right now. So
thank you so much for joining us today. Where can
people find you on social media?
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Honestly, whatever socials you prefer, cokeamoco, if you just search it,
I'll probably be there in your show, But go support
my My show is Spotify on YouTube and Spotify middle
right with cokemoko and maybe comment what artist he thinks
about to take off the I'll interview.
Speaker 6 (46:55):
Yeah, comment my name take off too.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
What about you, Curly? Where can they find you?
Speaker 6 (47:02):
People can find me on the Curly v Show, on
TikTok and Instagram. Where can people find you?
Speaker 3 (47:07):
You can find me at my moment m A y
A in the moments anywhere you scroll. Thank you so
much for listening to another episode of the Super Secret
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I'm like, what's your opinion? No one has it if
everyone's afraid of having the wronger table. She had fifty
thousand followers our first interview with her forty five million
views on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It was Charlie Demilio.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
It was one of the most intense, crazy crowds, like
in terms of fighting, like I'm not an it girl,
I'm that girl, but like thet but me and my
friends were just making that joke out.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
My name is Curly and I'm Maya. The super Secret
Bestie called Podcast. Season four is here and we're locked in.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
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Speaker 5 (00:32):
Spells, to casta on your ex.
Speaker 6 (00:34):
Yeah, we're not doing that this season.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Oh well, this season we're leveling up.
Speaker 6 (00:39):
Each episode will feature a special bestie and you're not
gonna want to miss it. So what are you waiting for? Kidding?
Speaker 7 (00:45):
Here?
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Oh my god, Coco MoCo's coming today.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
Curly Coco Mochel is like a cookie or or something
like that.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
It's cocomcol It sounds very creamy.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
She's here.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Hi, I'm a human, but you can eat me if
you want.
Speaker 7 (01:07):
Sounds like a yum here.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Gocals here. I know, everybody's like, did you get her.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
There? Like how where did that name?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's so funny because no one's ever like asked me
in a podcast, but anytime I meet people in person,
it's the first thing they asked. But it's because in
college my friends would call me Loco hot Coco as
a joke. So you guys know me from our job,
and my real name is Colleen, and so I didn't
want to make that my user name in case like
my coworkers found my TikTok. I'm like, I don't know,
Like that's embarrassing. So then I was like, I'll do
(01:48):
Coco Loco.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
That was taken.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And then the letter next to el and the alphabet
is M, so then I was like, Coco Moco, and then.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I threw an e at the M.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I'm glad you did that because local and.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Book yes, people always that.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Sometimes my comments will be like, you know that means
like sugar Burger or something, and it was.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Crazy, so like spoiler, I mean, we're gonna get into
it later. Like we all used to work at Buzzfy together,
and I did not like I saw you at an
Apple TV plus event. It was for the studio and
we like met Seth broken and it was like a
whole matter who.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Night, and then Kayla knew who you were, Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yeah, and I was you like caught that moment.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It was like really cute, and I was like, Cococo,
I'm like, wait, I know you and You're like it's
me clean like social and I had I was already
following you and I thought so, and I didn't make
the connection. So it was like two different people in
my head.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It's funny because I was probably talking to you like
we knew each other already, and You're like, how does
Coco already know me?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
She just like acts like she knows me already because
we did.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And in your defense, I felt like all of us
only really interacted on Slack except a few times.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
So that I didn't we do. Wasn't that like during
the era of like covid we.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I started at BuzzFeed March sixteenth, twenty twenty, so it
was the day I feel like they said everyone else.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
On zoom together a lot, and we were like trying
to figure out like how did you how to find
my niche how to find my thing? And you were helping,
and you were like, this is what we think and
then and I already was like you know, now I
feel like I'm back at it, But back then I
was like I'm tired, like I don't know what what
to do, what my lane is, And then you were
there kind of super like to be helpful.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And YE always been that, Like I remember when I
was like blowing up on reels, like the first time
you were like congratulating me and.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Like like she's a real one. That's what I was,
like a niche proud of. Last night we have like, well,
let me let me read your bio first. Yeah, it's
pretty crazy, okay.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Coco Mogo is a content creator, marketing strategist, and a
trend forecaster known for her sharp insights into pop culture,
creator culture, and digital media. I added this Basically, she's
an internet batty queen who knows what's.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Hot and what's not.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Yeah once, she's also her.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Own creator entity human beings or sweetheart, like girl, your
fits like your pictures.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Yeah, you've really got a lot of love. Last night,
we had a really serendipitous moment last night. It was
actually my first dinner situation at my place.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
It just curly bought house. I guess he's a homeowner.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
I'm currently a homeowner, And so I had my gurlies
over for the first time, super impromptu, like not wasn't
planned at all. Empress was like, when am I gonna
come over? And I was like, Empress of was like
and I'm like, I don't know Sunday. She's like, that's
too far away, like tonight. And so she texted mesh
Prada on our group chat and then we were talking
because our launch date was for the podcast podcast.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Was yes, August thirteenth, so we were like, just come
to the house, like we'll order food, come on in,
and we started talking about like social media and mish Prada,
who is just this phenomenal human actress talent, starts to
kind of lean into this.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Creator that she really loves and she starts to talk
about like the importance of this creator and she's like, yeah,
and her name is and in real time me and
Meyer were like, there's no fucking way that.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
She's The next day today we're interviewing Cocoke.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Yeah, like, there's no fucking way, and then she literally
goes Coco and we go our Vagina's open up sweet
warm and said, look at god serendipity.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
So, and I also want to get into you've been
a culture forecast, like as they say, and you've been
like reporting on like what's you know, going to be
trending and on like creators and stuff. But you started
like at BuzzFeed you you said, also you worked at
Famous Birthday.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yes, that was the where I like fine tuned the
skill with actually a Famous Birthday.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
And so when were you like, is it your intuition
kind of like leading you towards like wait I see
or are you like very analytical and logistical about what's
going to hit?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, there's there's like a little there's a kind of
system that I use in my own head and so
I and which I'll explain. But I fine tuned it
at Famous Birthdays. That was my first job out of
like college and corporate world. And I was there in
twenty nineteen. They just changed the name from Musically to TikTok.
And my the guy who owns fans Birthday's name is Evan.
(06:34):
He's like brilliant at the Internet and he hired me
to just be like run the TikTok. But also, if
you think anyone's going to get famous on TikTok, just
like invite them into interview them because no one's interviewing these.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Kids yet, so like we'll be the first. So it's like, okay, cool.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I started inviting people in and then one girl I
invited in, she had fifty thousand followers, our first interview
with her forty five million views on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
It was Charlie Timilio.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Wow, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Then we got in Addison, and then we got in
Brittany Broski, and I was like, and some of it
was me, some of it was my team. There were
also really brilliant people working there too that were part
of this. But I was like, okay, wait, this is
something I'm good at, Like I'm good at finding these people.
So then because of those videos I produced at famous birthdays,
I'd applied for like a fellowship.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Bit BuzzFeed, which is like an internship.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
But they reached out and were like, do you just
actually want to run our TikTok team? But yeah, So
there's actually like a system. When I think someone's about
to become famous, it's where what happens first is someone
becomes famous by like trial and error, they find something
that sticks then they start repeating it over and over
and then this is how you know it's about to
(07:39):
stick is if people start talking about it from like
I call it like social proof. It's like a third party.
So it can't be their friend, can't be their manager,
their team. It has to be like like someone random,
like a streamer in India brings up Ace from Love
Island and you're like, oh wait, like there's like some
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something happening outside of that. So like with Charlie Demilio,
I knew she was about to pop off because her
tiktoks it was when you could only do like fifteen seconds,
they would go viral, which is like that's that second stage,
but they're not famous yet. They were like it became
the saying where high schoolers were duetting her tiktoks, being
like why does this girl have the hype and stuff,
(08:21):
which was like mean spirited, but it made her famous.
Oh yeah, So yeah, if I see someone start talking
about people that aren't in their orbit, I'm like, oh,
they're breaking out of their snow globe, Like this thing's
about to pop.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Wow, And have you seen that people are that that's changing,
Like the reason for why that might happen has changed,
Like do you feel like people before you kind of
kind of touched up on it was a little bit
of like a hate.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, it's a little bit like the problematically.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Yeah, it wasn't like, oh my god, I love her
so much. It started with a little bit of ill.
And then why do you think that that's still the
way that things happened? Do you think that being problematic
is the way to go these days?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Or I don't.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So I hate the saying that's like all press is
good press because I don't actually think that's true. But
I think what you're hinting at is this walks a
fine line with that where I made a video recently
where I was talking about, like there's this girlhooda on
Love Island that like is so polarizing, Like you're not
going to meet someone that watched Love Island.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's like I'm indifferent.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
People either love her or hate her, and I like
some advice I give. What I'm consulting is like you
can't smell popular without a po laar.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
So there's that polarizing So like yeah, you're like, what
is that?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, but like also there's that And so when I
made that video, someone in my comment section said something
so interesting that was like, in order to be magnetic,
you have to be repellent. So there is that feeling
of like there's a there, but then but I think
that happens on accident. A lot of people that are
polarizing don't mean to be polarizing, Like I think that
(09:53):
they're just showing up and for whatever reason, like people
are just polarized by them. But whenever people people try
to manufacture that, that's when it comes off, is like
they're trying too hard to like make something or they're
trying to push the boundaries for attention, and audiences are
pretty smart at picking up on that.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Okay, Yeah, I feel like it's it's interesting because I
do feel like we worked at buzzfeedut better, like we
were polarizing because of some of the issues we would
bring up and talk about, and especially like I would
talk about not feeling enough in my culture and like
not knowing Spanish and learning Spanish, and like I can
(10:32):
see how each of us in our own lane kind
of like popped off and now I feel like a
little exhausted, like I don't want to keep rubbing people
the wrong way, or like I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
It's like, how do you see the future.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Of like content creation and creators who have been seasoned
and into it, Like what is the future? Like what?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah? Like is your question? Like can you be polarizing
for long?
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Like like and you still do without being polarizing?
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Been canceled three times, three and a half times, and
I hate it half. I hate it so much. Yeah,
and I'm like I hate it.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yeah, but it's kind of like canl That's like people
create memes about me, like it go like viral on Twitter,
like people like losing a ship ton of followers by
the way for things that like I don't didn't have
control over, they just we the I interviewed Vice president
Kama Harrison.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
I tracked for it, like you know what I mean,
like crazy stuff. Yeah, I get why anyways, long story ship,
but like you know, and that as you get older
in this business and stuff too, like it is exhausting
to get Even Cardi b I feel like, talks about
how she's just so tired of like all the hate
comments that she gets, like.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Oh, she's so well.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
She was just talking about what's that mag Meason Tyler Tyler,
she was just defending Tyler the other day because she
was saying, how like Tyler doesn't do anything. She's like,
Tyler didn't even talk and Tyler has haters. So it's
like to your point, like what you do to like
a creator, Like how are you gonna like you were saying,
like how does somebody who is like what if you.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Don't want to be polarizing?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I know, And again like I think the polarizing happens
on accident. Like There's been times where I've done something
that was polarizing and I'm like I didn't even think
that was what they were going to hold on too
from that interview or whatever. Like sometimes you can't really
control it. I think it's just part of the game.
I think what happens with really big creators is they
just have a team around them that insulates them. So
(12:29):
like someone like a Taylor Swift isn't reading the comments
and so I think like eventually, if you are going
to be that level of a creator and you want
to do this for a long time, you have to
find ways to insulate yourself. Also, I would say there's
been times where I feel like I've been you know,
dragged online, Like like for me, like I always tell people.
(12:50):
I'm like super open about it. I'm like, I believe
Blake Lively and like I know that that's I'm probably
gonna get dragged in comments anytime I say that. But
coming out of that actually made me more confident, and
I think actually gave me an interesting relationship with my
audience where I was like, this is what I stand
on at least you guys know I'm not swayed by
popular opinion. Like you guys can disagree with me, but
like this is and it kind of made me more
(13:11):
confident myself.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I was like, I don't care, Like this is what
I think right now.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It could change, but I don't care if you guys
disagree with me, that's okay. Yeah, yeah, I just kind
of like gained confidence in a way because that's what I.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Find too with a lot of creators, is that like
there And we talked, we were literally talking about this
at dinner last night. Was just like I do think
that when you're young, you're a little reckless. And I
just remember, like I'm twenty five years old, twenty six
years old going into BuzzFeed part of and I was
still working in the kitchen right like I started serving
their lunches and they would record me talking. And the
(13:42):
reason why I started to go viral so quickly was
that with them was because I was reckless with my shit,
because I would be like that's most like foreskin and
people would be like, oh my god, what the fuck?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Like shit like that.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
And then as I got older and I started getting
canceled and dragged, and as I found that it was
hurting my feelings, I can understand, you know, like this
this hurts because I'm not this person that that they're
painting me to be online. And then you wonder, like
with younger creators who like they don't want that and
they don't maybe necessarily have the ability to, I could
(14:14):
ke keep growing, you know what I mean, Like I
was still on a major platform where I could be like,
what you guys are painting over here is not true,
and I can show you with my continued body of work.
But maybe some people go like once I get canceled,
that might be the end of it for me, Like
what do you feel about that?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Like I do think a lot of people once they
get their first one or like, this isn't for me,
And I totally understand. That's why I always say, like,
and you know, I'm not the first person to say this.
It's kind of this belief that has already existed before me.
But that and you know, virality and fame are on
different levels, but that fame can actually be like a
type of trauma, and like like there's like so many
(14:51):
you go through different stages like denial that this is
happening and then anger, and like there there is that
trauma that can happen. Maybe like the three of us,
I think probably have an interesting relationship with it because
like for me coming from BuzzFeed, I was never on
camera at BuzzFeed, but I felt like I learned from
the best, like from people that were on camera, like
you guys, and it's like there. And also being at
(15:13):
BuzzFeed was polarizing even now when I tell people I
worked there, people have different opinions, but like I felt
insulated in that there were like one hundred people on
the social team that are monitoring comments, Like I don't
us call.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
It the palace?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Was like we didn't really.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Maybe it's harder now that we're all doing our own thing,
because like I came from a place where it felt
insulated and that like I maybe wasn't the one that
I actually was probably the one monitoring the comments for
like you guys, like I'd be helping posts on socials
and like because it wasn't me that was getting the feedback,
like it was easier to monitor.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But I do think that.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Like, there are a lot of people that aren't, Like
that's why this career isn't always longevity for some people.
I think actually the older that you become famous or
go viral online, the longer you can last. So like
(16:20):
if you're in your mid twenties when it happens or later,
you're more set in who you are as a person,
you can handle it. Like I think that I would
have been reckless and crazy at twenty one if.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I had this pform.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I wouldn't like and I was still like, I think,
smart and aware and empathetic, but like, yeah, you're frontal
of just like aren't de belt.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Like I'm not a doctor, but I'm just saying like
you're just not there.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So you you mentioned like the
brain earlier too. I used to One of my first
jobs is working at David Lusha Post Studios, and we
would have celebrities there all the time, Megastars, God God,
Naomi Campbell, Chris Rock and I used to I have
this thing that I always talking about celebrity brain, where
like sometimes you would have celebrity come in and be like, oh, hey,
what's up? Guys, Like where do you want me to say? Okay? So,
and then you have other celebrities that come in and
(17:01):
like what's a chair? I don't understand, Like what do
you like?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Just like people do things for them that they're almost
checked out, gone, yeah, like they have no sense reality.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
So like even just like talking. I think there's a
doctor named doctor Amon who talks about like the actual
structure of the brain. And he was saying that celebrities
brains morph because of all the different chemicals that are
going on when you are exposed to huge amounts of
fame and attention. And I feel like on a lot
of different levels, these creators, these young people are being
hit with all these like chemicals in their brain and
(17:33):
you're kind of just like you just want to it's
okay to just want to put a ticket.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Do you have chemicals in your brain?
Speaker 6 (17:40):
You know?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
What's actually so interesting when you say that is something
I've noticed since I started interviewing artists, so like more
music artists, yeah, but some of the bigger ones that
I've interviewed, they all did this. I think it was
like subconscious, like I don't even think they noticed they
were doing it, but when they were so we would
sit in the this movie theater and watch their music
videos and then they would break it down for me.
(18:01):
When they began talking about themselves on the screen, they
would switch into third person. They'd be like, so, she's
doing this move, so like Jay did it from Little
Mix Adella who Adela was big on pop Star Academy
cats I, but then like she got a ton of
hate and now she has a beloved fandom. Again, that
like polarizing. And there's one other person I can't think of,
(18:21):
but when they were describing their music videos, they were
referring to themselves a third person.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I think that's like a defense mechanism. And I've actually.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Noticed like sometimes I'll do it where if something happens,
I'll be like, well me, Colleen, like I'm at dinner
with my parents.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Coco's the one who's like getting the hate, like not me,
Like she can handle it. That's like someone on the gah.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So I almost think there's like a switching that happens
where it's like, that's why so many of them have
like stage names and stuff, because it's like that's they're
dealing with it, not me.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
By the way, she has a show with Spotify.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yes, called middle Row, but you can watch it on
YouTube we Spotify and it's where. So back to the
thing about like trend predicting. I was going viral in
like twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four making all these
trend prediction videos and then I was like, let me
just put my mouth where my money is or my
money where my mouth is, and like, let me just
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show if I can actually do it, if I can
interview people right before they blow up. So then I
was like, let me just start a show, and then
I did. Yeah, so that I just wanted to do
a show in a movie theater because I love movie theaters,
and I was like, how does no one have a
show in a movie theater. The reason is it's actually
logistically kind of hard to figure out.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It's like there's just a lot of moving parts.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
But so yeah, so I have the show Middle Row
with Cocomoco, where every episode I interview artists as we
break down their music videos, and it's artists that I
think are like about to take offs and then sometimes
it's more established.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah, recently was Eli d doll Yes Obsessed and that
was really good.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, she had been getting shout outs from like choice
ofvon Doci.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
That's why to her. Yeah, I was like, oh, she's
breaking that snow glow.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
What do you think like happened there?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Like, I mean, well, I also just think with Eli,
the music was really good. So if you guys are
listening on like a music platform, it's Girl of Your
Dreams is like the song that was really popping off
for her, And I think the music.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Was actually just really good.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Like I was on a panel a few years ago
and someone on the panel said something so smart. They're like,
you like talking about marketing. They're like, you can't make
people want to buy things. You have to make things
people want to buy, Like marketing can only go so far,
Like you have to still make a good product. So like,
I think Eli just made a really good song. And
then you know, a lot of it is luck that
the stars align at the right time, and then don't.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
You it was like the esthetics like yeah, you know
the Y two K of it All and mary Anne
is a good song, yeah, hers, Like it was like
a moment where like all of these I told you
about it, Like all of these artists were like using
this song and I think like as musicians. And we
were just when we were talking to Empress of earlier,
(21:02):
like she's like, I'm an artist, I'm not an influencer
or content creator, you know, and it's like it's just
that kind of world where it's like you also need
to like pimp out your stuff unfortunately, but then it's
like how do you not lose like that artistry? And
then we were talking about like, you know, maybe is
it like do we not want to look like we're
trying too hard or whatever? And we were talking about
(21:24):
your stories the other day, which snowballed into like Niche
talking about like the creator about you know, and Cocomoco
and I had watched a bunch of videos before and
where they were like people are gonna hate what you're
gonna make and who cares because like they've never taken
a risk before in their lives or they've never bet
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on themselves, you know. And you had this like Instagram
story the other day talking about like I don't know
exactly what happens.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Oh, it was just my Instagram comments were like, you
try too hard. Now, you try too hard to be cool.
You try this, you try that. I was like, first
of all, I went to San Diego say I've been
cool like that.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Girl.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
That was good.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I was like, they were like, you're trying to be
an it girl. I was like, I'm not an it girl.
I'm that girl. But like me and my friends were
just making that joke because they were prompting it at
a festival. But like in the words of Addison Ray,
she once said in her interview, I think it was
with like when Lynn Blackwell, she was like people always
say you try too hard, you try too hard, and
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she's like, well, maybe you should try a little harder
because we can can tell you're not And I know
you said that too.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Where Why are you not try?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Why are you trying? Yeah, I'm trying. Sorry, I'm trying.
What do you want me to do?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I try, harked earlier, and I was like, I tried
really hard on my today Goco.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I was like, we should be trying, like you guys
should be grateful.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
I'm trying that guy from the Dire the CEO was
just saying, like the price of entry is cringe, Like
to make people cringe, like you have to kind of
be yourself. And you know, it's funny now because like
I'll look at people and be like, no, bis you
cringe for free? I cringe for a check, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Like no, we're always like.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Yeah, I'm like no, no, no, when I'm getting paid.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Were aware of it. We're aware of it.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
And it's not it's not to like say like I mean,
but it's literally like you're like, you know, like you're
talking so much shit, and yeah, we're aware of it.
I'm aware that I'm in a fucking duck costume and
I'm like swimming in a pond for a check. But
like I got to pay my bills and that's the
whole thing. So while you're sitting at home, it is fun,
you know, but like I think that I'm not trying
(23:32):
to be like I'm better than or anything like that,
but it's like in order to get to what you
want to do, you're going to look. If you watch
any early Beyonce performances from like back in the day
when Crazy and Love came out. She was not hitting
her marks. Beyonce was not hitting her things. She was
giving a little too hard hard. And I'm talking about
somebody who like I will go into I'm part of
(23:53):
the behave, I will go and spend time, you know,
protecting her in the comment section that she doesn't care about,
but like she now is like thiselebrity celebrities, right, yeah,
And so it's like and another thing that I tell
people too is that I'm like, if you look at
somebody like a Kim K who is maybe universally recognized
as the influencer, maybe Paris Hilton or Kim K. But
I'm like, you can't be afraid to be ugly. And
(24:14):
I've been seeing this for years, and you can't be
afraid of getting canceled unfortunately, And I'm like, look at
how many times those girls have been canceled, and look
at how much of their ugly we've seen. I mean,
we've seen their juhas at this. Yeah, like we it's fine,
you'll live, you'll survive. Go do what you want to
do if you want to do it. Because on the
flip side, cut to like a ten year career now
at this point and we talk about all the time,
(24:35):
feeling like the the Warner brother Frog Yeah, hello baby.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Oh yeah, like Taylor Swift The Life of a Showgirl.
I say, like I'm a retired internet showgirl or washed
up internet showgirl. Not derogatory, just like silly goofy. Yeah,
but like, yeah, I feel like we've been performing. But yeah,
it's because in the beginning we didn't give a fuck
about like whether you know, we were making a silly
face or whatever it was like. And I feel like,
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you know, I think what they were saying for you,
like you're trying to be this and that, like I
see you in your outfits, I see you at these premieres,
like that's what they think is trying too hard, Like
you look amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Thank you, look fabulous, thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
And it's this thing that I realize that when people
first meet us, they create this version of us and
file it in their brains, and then when we show
up differently, whether we cut our hair or like you know,
lose weight or gain weight or whatever it is, change
our bodies, it like cracks something in their brain where
(25:38):
they have to reassess their version of us, which like
disrupts their own comfort. And I find that too, with
like family members or partners or like other friends who
are kind of like frenemies, and it's like, why aren't
you trying harder? Like why aren't like why am I
polarizing to you when like you have accessibility to.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
What I'm doing, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And So I think that's a lot of people's kind
of like challenge with starting to be a creator influencers.
They don't want to look like they're trying too hard,
So like what would you.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Say to them?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I'd be like I would be worried if you look
like you're not trying enough, Like, yeah, you should try hard,
like put yourself out there, swing and miss a million times,
like I think even for me, I've been doing this
for probably three or four years because yeah, I wasn't
on camera at BuzzFeed, but like I I have like
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over a million followers because maybe only five percent of
what I do works. That other ninety five percent, I'm
like swinging and missing and no one's watching it, but
I'm still showing up like you should be Yeah, like
you really should be trying. Like when I like, I
always think in analogies and I did I did all
start cheer growing up?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And when you're learning new flips.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
They always say like you're gonna learn ninety five ways
or ninety nine ways to fall before you learn how
to land. Like the first thing they teach you when
you start cheer is how to fall, like they like,
land on your knees, don't put your elbows straight out
like they like. They spend lessons teaching how to fall
before they start to right A.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Person too, thinking analogies, I'm like, save me too.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I always tell people like, should we get into chair
to cheerleadingading?
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Oh, cheerleading? I wanted to. Oh my god, I wanted to.
And I was going to sign up that day on
a Tuesday afternoon, and I saw them practicing and flipping
and running around, and I was like, for me, you
have to run.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
I thought it was going to be like, okay, all right,
cute little uniform, like bring it on, being a part
of a cool team. I didn't realize I had the sweat,
so I was like, I'm not okay, or carry the
girls like I don't like carrying the girls anyway, like
not a cheerleaders. But oh man, I wanted to ask
you somethings. No, I went back to cheerleading in my
(27:56):
breast analogies, oh, failing analogies and fail yeah, yeah, because
I just I'm always just like even I'm like, it's
kind of not that serious, like I had to like watch,
I had a cake right to watch a shit ton
of content a lot, just like studying, just watching and
being like, there's so many creatives out there who have
millions of followers who are truly just not even putting
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that much thought into it. They're just releasing stuff and
sometimes they're just like copy and pasting, that's all it is.
And so it's like find your thing, copy and so
right now, my thing that I tell people is I say, like,
experiment with your content, find a signal. Once you find it,
copy and paste.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Exactly until it runs dry and it's gonna feel annoying
to you.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
That's how you grow, exactly for people, because what we're
seeing too, like one of my other best se Chantell Houston,
who was on Lady, Like you know, she builds platforms
for a living, and we're like if one video, let's
say you're wearing this pink suit and you're dancing around
and that's your thing, you wear pink, and people go
to your page, they're gonna want to see more videos
of you wearing this pink dancing around that if you
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just have that one off, like they're gonna be like, oh,
that's not what I thought it was. But you won't
get there unless you're experimenting and trying. So I think
that's your point. I really think that that it is.
I love that so much because that even feels good
for me, like you're making right, I am gonna go
home and fucking swing a bunch of times and not
following my elbows and bend my knees and.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah that's how Yeah, that's truly what
it is, is like, and the repeating is so important.
I think I learned that even like it BuzzFeed, because
we would have to grow all these random offshoot.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Like a vegan food account, like what do I know
about vegan food and that?
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Yeah yeah, and it would be.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Like you just find one format that worked once and
have them do it over and over and over.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
And over again. Yeah yeah, that's like what works.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
It'll be if it's boring to you, then it's probably working,
is how it is, Like you can still enjoy it,
but like it has to be repetitive there's this one
guy right now that's growing so much on TikTok and
I just realized that he follows me, and I was like,
I like, I was so honored, and he basically whiz
on stage with Ian at Lolla Pluza.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
The guy that did the song is.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Like, hmm, oh yeah, it's rolling in the Deep.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I feel like Adele that song he did the double
excels this rapper. And there's this guy that made this
song popular where he just like jumps on the beat
and now he's like on stage with Ian. He's like
doing it with all these celebrities. It's the same song
on his TikTok for the last month. He's done that
one audio over and it's like a.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Trend to exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
It's all he does, and he's millions of followers. One
trend over.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
And over, that's what it is. And then there's also
just like the fact that you're fucking hot.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I guess that didn't.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Mean by the way, because like on like gay instagram ship,
like it's all these hot men who just posts all
these sexy photos. They don't see a single fucking word,
and then they have all these followers, and I'm always
like talk. Let's hear your voice, your opinion. How many
people like you after they hear your stupid as boys
(30:57):
and opinion?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I wish it was it was I've never grown from
like a hot photo.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I'm like, I.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Wish Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Okay, let's get into the astrology of the podcast, because
Homegirl knows her astrology.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
I didn't realize that that was your bread and butter
for a long time, and that's kind of like my
bread and butter right.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Now, which really it's so good.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
I mean, I'll bother you later, but like it kind
of I kind of stumbled upon it because I just
was like just throw away videos like I really don't
give a shit, this is what I think, and that
people are like yeah, because it's.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Like your opinion on the signs verresus, like this is
what yeah, is happening for Leo?
Speaker 6 (31:35):
But is that what you because for me, I try
not to watch anything or how were you doing?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I like, I well because I got into TikTok because
I loved like taro and stuff, and then like me
and my friends would do taro for fun and then like.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
But I understood.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I always feel like I'm good at knowing my lane,
I would make astrology videos and I would preface like
I'm not an expert, like there are people that are
experts like study this, like that's not me. I'm just
doing it for fun.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
M h.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
So yeah, I just but astrology to me is fascinating.
I think astrologers are like you know, they study patterns
and behaviors, and I think that's something that like.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
I like, that's what I like. I try not to
watch anything, and what I do is I think about
every area. What's your sign? What's your sign? By I
know we have a big three ready.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Aquarius moon, son Sun.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Oh, I think that okay, Aquarious sun, Gemini moon, yes,
rising Sagittarius.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Wow, how do you get any of your tasks done?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I know I'm so air.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I know I also want to hear what you were
saying too. But I the Gemini moon makes so much.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Well.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Aquarius makes sense because I'm so like the moment something's popular,
I'm like I don't want it, like I need to
be different.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's the Aquarius.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
But like the Gemini moon makes sense because like moon,
I think of it is where you get your confidence.
Gemini rules the third house and it's the sign of
like technology, algorithms, communication, and like I get my confidence
through understanding algorithms.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Wow the way literally.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yes yeah, and then sad rising is just I think
sad is just like the good luck one, like.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
The Showgirl too.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
You you m press and are going to be the
trifecta because Gemini Empress is Libra.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yes, yes, But to your point about like not watching,
I actually I don't know if this is what you're
getting at, but like I and I did this too
when I would do like astrology, trend prediction, pop culture videos, whatever.
I cannot watch people in my niche. And I'm friends
with them, I love them. I'm out to dinner with
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them every night, and I tell them I love them,
and they'll talk their videos through me in person.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
They know I can't watch their videos.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I cannot watch people's videos in my niche because I'll
subconsciously like internalize it. I'll compare myself, but I'll also
I'm afraid that I'm going to copy them.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Want things even with us, like we're best friends, and
sometimes I know I can feel that I'm like, oh shit,
I feel like that came from something Mina said six
years ago.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
We're blended.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
But I always want to give other creatives their credit.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
In the same I always try to give credit and.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Like I don't want to like ever create and it's
hard to create them, right, because you're creating from the
heart in a lot of different ways. You have to write,
and when you're creating pushing this content out, it's coming
from a very organic place, not because you're inspired or
you're like aggregating different ideas, right, So, like you know,
to your point, not watching, I love that you do
that as well. I do sometimes will look at like
(34:52):
if it's somebody else, Like let's say, like we were
talking to Mpress and we're talking about music, I'm like, oh,
let me go look at other musicians and see what
we're doing. Yeah, But to your point, in my own
niche like, I just won't. I don't. I love that
my dad's and Aquarius and I love that you said that.
If it's popular, I don't want it because I think
I got that from my dad too. If it's quoite,
I don't care. I don't want it. I'm gonna go
do this and be in my own lane exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
To our own dutchment. I'm like, okay, fine, I can
admit to.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Herself that's good music.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
But I'm like, she's so popular. I'm like, I have
to find this.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
But yeah, but I I cannot watch people in my niche.
But I also believe in there's this concept that not
this episode being like so spiritual, like woo woo, but
like there's this concept that was spoken about in this
book Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
She wrote Eat, Pray, Love, and Made with Gilbert.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, so she has a book called Big Magic. And
then also Rick Rubin wrote a book called The Creative Act,
I think, and so they I read both books and
it was interesting because they both talked about it where
they basically have this belief that there's this cloud that exists.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
And like this too.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yes, we're like, say, there'll be an idea, say, like
the fact that Hot Ones and Chicken Shop date exists
and got probably at the same time.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I think it came from the same cloud.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
So what they say is that like, say there's an idea, Okay,
there's going to be a popular show in the late
twenty tens and twenty twenties about celebrities eating chicken. It'll
be floating around the universe like a cloud and it's
waiting for someone to bring it to life, and it'll
go to someone and if that person is trying to
bring it to life, it might stick with them. If
that person isn't working at it, it'll bounce to someone
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either in their network or near them. And until that idea,
it's basically like the idea is ready to come to life,
whoever has like a rain bucket ready to catch it.
And Elizabeth Gilbert in her book said that she had
this idea for a book. It was a fiction book
about like nurses in Brazil during World War Two, and
she got this huge stipend to write it because of
the success of Eat, Pray Love. She could not write
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it for the life of her. It just was she
had a writer's block. She went to a convention, saw
a friend, hugged her. They didn't talk about the book.
Years later, that friend puts out a book. It becomes
a bestseller, and it was about nurses in Brazil during
the World War two, and she.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Calls her up.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
She's like, whoa, this is so crazy, Like how did
you get that idea? She's like, it's so crazy. When
I saw you at that convention, it like came to
me and Elizabeth was like, what if this cloud jumped
from me to her?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Was like, You're not going to bring me life. I'm
going to come from you know.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Michael Jackson used to talk about that, yes, where he
would say Michael Jackson needed to hop on something that
was where that prince was going it. And so I
have this thing where when I think of something, I
try to bury it because I my weird thought is
that if I don't think about it, I won't Hey,
there you go. So I kind of like nurtured it
and I hide it a little bit. But I'm very
big on that idea too, that like you know, people
(37:38):
were all pulling from the same source. Your mom says
that all the time, where she's like different ideas like
for you, yeah, act on it.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Gilbert also talks about when the inspiration hits I love
her by the way. She has an incredible ted talk
where she talks about creativity, which I highly recommend people
listen to you.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I think you can watch it.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
She talks about how there's a friend who's poet and
sometimes the inspiration would hit her when she was far
away from paper, and so they would do this thing
where like come at a better time, or she would
do this thing where she would start running from the
paper and as she felt the poem leaving her, she
would write the poem from end to beginning, as if
she was pulling it back from like a sale, and
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like writing it down so that she would have it.
And so I think, like you know, creatives, we do
have that thing where we all are in tune with
each other. And I think that for me, the reason
why I think so many people have anxiety or depression
or different thoughts is that we are all small universes
that are meant to create in a lot of different ways.
And if we are creating, no matter what it is, like,
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you'll at least have I think a semblance of happiness
some capacity. So like kind of going back to what
we were saying earlier, like just shoot your shot, virgo.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Oh really, okay?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
You so you have a lot of that like that
one time of year, which is like fall, summer ish.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (39:02):
Oh, you mean like I'm a circle.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
It's like it's probably a stellium on one side of
the charge.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
You're scorpio celium, or I think a virgo celium because.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Your venus is virgo.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
My Mercury is in Virgo. Mostly it's mostly all scorpion virgo. Okay,
but I'm just really like, I feel like I'm like
I call myself a B type Virgo. I'm a pick
me virgo because I'm not like everything has to be perfect.
I'm very much like younger ship, like you know this,
I'm like whatever, there's certain things that I care about,
but there's I have an opinion.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
On things, but I love that, and we need to
bring back opinions because that's what kills me, especially in
the pop culture world, is like no one has a
fucking opinion on anything.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
They're just like Taylor's was popular right now.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I think everything she does is great and it's amazing,
and I'm like, what's your opinion?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
No one has. Everyone's afraid of having the wrong right.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Honest. I don't get it because I don't understand, Like,
I don't understand, and I just Taylor Space.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
What's Taylor's Sagittarius.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
She's sag and then a bunch of Scorpio.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
I think free ball safe space is what I meant
to say. Okay, I don't understand her lyricism. People like
h Larynx are just so amazing, and I'm like, I
think I could maybe do that.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
He's like, I'm wucking in the and there in the.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
H and then just like your voice agility, Like I'm like,
have y'all heard Jazmine Sullivan saying.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
She's a vocalist at all?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I think she's a great poet and lyricist.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
I think there's just like a lot of it, And
I think the culture she has created sometimes like I mean,
maybe she's not responsible for her fandom as much, but
I just can't like fuck with it because of the fandom.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
The fandom scares me.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
And I think Taylor's fandom is one of their well,
I think a lot of their fandoms is the reason
there's no more opinions in pop culture because you could
say like one thing and it's like, oh my god,
like you want them dead. It's like, no, I just
had an opinion. If anything, it's a sign of respect
to the artist that you're like, I'm actually like I
like this what you've done. Maybe this one thing I
didn't like, Like, yeah, they're not a monolith.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Sandom ruins it times where I know a lot of
a lot of my close friends are tea Swift fans
and I love nineteen eighty nine. That's like my album,
and I'm I'm excited for her music and stuff. But
I just feel like every time something comes out, I'm like,
no boiler I can because it's always like, oh my god,
and I'm like, yeah, I know that's how we look.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Like right last Shower or life of a show a show.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Girl, and like, I know that's how we look when
anything Beyonce happens. But it's a movement Beyonce. It's a
movement like cultural spirits.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
It's woo woo, but also too, like you can be critical. Literally,
we were like, I don't like her music. I'm like,
but you can still like honor, like the craftsmanship exactly practices.
So like Taylor, I don't like her music, I'm happy
to exist.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Astrology turned into.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
You know, I feel that way about to I just
I don't understand it, but I'm so happy he exists.
As Bruno Mars, like I feel nothing, nothing happens.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I can I say something about Bruno Mars. I went
to a Bruno Mars concert last year, and it was
one of the most intense, crazy crowds, like in terms
of fighting.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Like Bruno.
Speaker 5 (42:28):
I can feel that.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
I can see it was a weird energy, Like was
the weirdest energy I've ever seen. I was like, yeah,
maybe like like older millennials and so they were like
drinking and like like it was like they were in
I was like, Bruno Mars, why are you guys like
(42:49):
fist fighting? To Bruno Mars, it's a damn.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I don't think that's him.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
That's I was trying to the Lady if.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
The World, which I will say I was there and
it was I got to see that song performed for
the first time, so it was very cool. But all
the people that were fistfighting left the venue or got
kicked out before they even.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Got to see. So I was like, that's what you
get for being crazy through no Mark.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Okay, let's make one astrology question in you wanted to ask,
like what sign do you not? Oh?
Speaker 6 (43:33):
Yeah, which is the sign that you feel I have
an opinion?
Speaker 5 (43:37):
You can have an opinion save space?
Speaker 6 (43:38):
Yeah, I have three. Who is a sign that you're
like I feel like, I'm like, Girl get it Together?
On today's episode of Girl Get It Together, which sign
do you think you know? I?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Well, Aquarius?
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Men, first of all, are I have always done me dirty.
But I will say I don't know. It's not that
I don't that I just don't know any libras. I
think you said I could name this many libras in
my life. I have so many leos in my life. Okay,
for some reason, watch what.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
I said that four.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Months ago and now they're in your life? Was no
one born in September or like early October?
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Like where are the libras?
Speaker 6 (44:21):
Yeah, they just don't know any Yeah. Literally, she's on
her way.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Oh my god, Okay, there we go. She's outside.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
But like in terms of like the men that have
done me the most dirty, or Aquarius men, like straight aquarious.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
Men, you know what, the guy who kind of triggered
my alcohol problem in my teens. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
I just want to say, Sagittarius men are evil.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
Do they exist?
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I've got out of men.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
They're evil and disgusting. They exist because they terrorize me.
That's why they call them terrorists. They call them suge
terrorists because they terrorized your heart.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I just feel like straight men are not ver Sagittarius.
Speaker 6 (45:01):
I feel like straight.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Any zodiac good also Sagittarius.
Speaker 6 (45:06):
Every time I post any video about any sign and
I'm they're like, oh this Pisces or Virgo this or whatever.
I'm like and the minute they bring up straight men
and like, oh, you're not talking about baths and queer
people and women like, you're talking about straight men. Like
and they are to me and my head are going
to represent you in the terror when you get it,
when you get the flipped version of reverse to me,
the man version every zod if everything is reversed, either the.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Tower card or the devil card.
Speaker 6 (45:32):
Yeah, or like I know because straight man, the straight
male virgos like like my signs they're insane. I'm like what,
because okay, we're an insecure sign. So the thing with
us is that, like we will we're confident, but we're
very critical of ourselves. And what we'll do is we'll
project that criticism onto the people around us and who
we love, Like, oh, that's an interesting pair of shoes
(45:54):
you decided to throw on today, but it's like, you know,
it's like no one's fucking business, right, So like when
the virgo kind of gets a little bit more therapy
and and gets better, he'll learn that those are exactly
the show she wanted to wear, and that's fine. But
I think to meet so to me the earth science
and tourists, I'm like, get it together.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
And that concludes the astrology a portion of the podcast.
Coca having me.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
I feel like we could talk for hours.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. If they want me,
I'm here for sure.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
We want you all the time. And then we literally
are going to go have some coffee right now. So
thank you so much for joining us today. Where can
people find you on social media?
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Honestly, whatever socials you prefer, cokeamoco, if you just search it,
I'll probably be there in your show, But go support
my My show is Spotify on YouTube and Spotify middle
right with cokemoko and maybe comment what artist he thinks
about to take off the I'll interview.
Speaker 6 (46:55):
Yeah, comment my name take off too.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
What about you, Curly? Where can they find you?
Speaker 6 (47:02):
People can find me on the Curly v Show, on
TikTok and Instagram. Where can people find you?
Speaker 3 (47:07):
You can find me at my moment m A y
A in the moments anywhere you scroll. Thank you so
much for listening to another episode of the Super Secret
Bestie Club podcast. I say that wrong, gomme make sure
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