September 17, 2025 • 36 mins
In this heartfelt episode, Maya sits down to explore the incredible artistic journey of Florencia Cuenca — powerhouse performer, boundary-pushing creative, and storyteller at heart. They dive into her evolution as an artist, from her first steps on stage to her boldest projects. But it doesn’t stop there — Florencia opens up about her amazing love story.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think, goodness, he's not that round. Yeah, don't watch this. Yes,
(00:04):
two months later we got engaged. I know it's crazy,
but it's.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Like if they say when you know you know, you know, yes.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yes, And everybody was posting and it was like too
much saying this like on screen. And then going upstairs
and Cynthia Arrebo was exiting and she talked to us
and she said, you deserve to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Period mic drop, but not really, these are expensive. My
name is Curly and I'm Maya.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
The Super Secret Bestie Club Podcast Season four is here
and we're locked in.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
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Speaker 4 (00:43):
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Speaker 5 (00:44):
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Speaker 4 (00:46):
Each episode will feature a special bestie and you're not
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Speaker 1 (00:50):
So what are you waiting for?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Kid in here, Welcome back to another episode of The
Super Secret Bestie Club Pod Cast. Curly is still in
la He has a question for you later on.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
We are backstage.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
We are in her dressing room right now at the
James Earl's Earl Jones Theater in New York Freaking City.
On freaking Broadway. My gosh, She's like doing her vocal
warm ups and I'm like, Queen, don't strain your voice
for this, like whatever, like.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You know, place may need.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
To have for this podcast. What if I'm.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
You can whisper if you want to whisper you your
voice is so good, like, oh my god, I am.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I love a good voice. I love a belter, but
I love a healthy belter.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Do you know what I'm saying? When you know the
juice is.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
There, and the juice is there, Okay, let me get
into the actual, like, let me get into my questions.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Okay, hold on, let me.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Go to my I wrote some stuff up.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Okay, you guys, we have a very exciting episode. So
this is an exciting season for us because this is
season four of our podcast with iHeartRadio and Sonoo. And
I wanted to make this happen so bad because I'm
my mom and I are such fans of the movie
and years ago I had auditioned for the musical Oh
(02:23):
God wow, But I'm not classically trained at Also, I
don't know what they were thinking, girl, but I was like,
you know what, let's see it, of course, and I
took my very first vocal lesson, and the vocal coach
was like, you're only using seventy percent of your voice.
I'm like, right, right, And I still went in there
and I was like, no, you know, like you did it.
(02:44):
It just was so I feel a little connected to
this musical, of course, because me too, me too. But
I'm still waiting if.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I got it or not.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I haven't heard that ask and who can we Victor?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Victor, Oh, I've been in his DMS. I love him. Okay,
so we're backstage. You were making the history.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Of course, this is like a historical moment because you are,
according to the Internet, the first Mexican immigrant to originate
a co leading role on Broadway before obtaining US citizenship.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
That's what they said.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Exactly, That's why they said. That's what the streets are saying. Yeah,
it feels surreal. I didn't know that until I started
doing this, you know. And is it's crazy? Yeah, because
we're in twenty twenty five and Broadway has been around
for so many years, and I'm like, well, it was
(03:42):
about time, right, And I hope now that we opened
that door, many immigrants like myself can come into this
room and the original doors. Yes, you did it. You said,
come on, let's go.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Let's say. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
So, what has been your musical theater journey? I know
you come from a legacy, right, like what what was
the first moment that you were like, wait, I can
sing and I kind of want to do this.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well. I think the very first time that I saw
live musical theater was back in Mexico. I saw sing
and in the rain, and I was like, yes. For me,
that was crazy, like there's a man there singing, yes,
dancing in the rain, like tap tap dancing and in
(04:32):
the rain. For me, that was like wow. It to
my mind and for me, I was like, okay, I
want to do that.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And my dad he was like, well, it's musical theater,
you like it. And then he started like showing me
all these amazing vhs by Judy Garland and you know,
like the classics and sound of music and all that.
And I was like, okay, that's what I want to
do for the rest of my life. And I start
(05:00):
doing musical theater in Mexico. Actually, there there was a
Selina the musical in Mexico. Really I didn't know it.
I did it. I was playing su said when she
was little.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
They need to bring that back.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I know, we need a musical hello, Oh my god.
And then I moved to New York ten years ago,
like to keep pursuing this stream of musical theater Broadway.
And it's been a journey. It's been tough, Like the
(05:38):
reality is that Broadway is a very white business and
it's so good and they have the perfect formula. But
now in the times that we are leaving, I think
we need to tell more stories.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yes, not just one yes.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
And I feel like with this musical it feels bills like,
you know how our community can get a little nervous
about how people tell Latino stories, Latine stories in general,
and if they can get it right. And the whole
thing is, we're not a monolith. This musical I felt.
Me and my cousin were crying, sobbing because.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
We felt so seen.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
We felt so it's like there was so much grief
attached to it. But then as much as we were
felt like, oh my god, this is like so powerful,
somebody would crack a joke yes, and we'd be like,
oh my god, that's exactly who we are, exactly exactly.
I feel like you guys definitely got it right. But
before we get into the musical musical, Curly and I
(06:42):
like to talk about love a lot, and I know
you and your husband are the dynamic power duo.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I want to know a little bit, like was it
love at first sight for you guys? Like how did
you first be?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That's crazy? Okay, thank goodness, he's not that wrong. Yeah,
don't watch this because he's like, no, it wasn't like that.
I followed him on Twitter, okay, like eleven years ago,
twelve years ago, because he would like tweet funny things
about musical theater and he's a composer of Ranger, so
(07:15):
he knows a lot about it. And I would be like, oh,
I don't know. He's funny, but he's also risky. And
I followed him, but it was like just like casual
follow It wasn't like, oh my god, I want him. No.
Then we had so many friends in common, and we
actually met at a friend's wedding in Monterey. Hi's from Monterrey.
(07:37):
I'm from Mexico City. So we saw each other in
that wedding. I was having fun. I was like in
my early twenties, can you imagine, just like right, and
he was staring at me the whole night. He's twelve
years older than me, so I was like, okay, that
senor is looking at me with like a dead face.
(07:58):
Maybe he hates me, Like okay, whatever, And then he
added me on Facebook. So we started chatting and we
became like really good good friends, like for a year
and a half. Then he was like, hey, I'm feeling things.
How do you feel about it? And I was like, well,
you live in and I live in Mexico, like that
(08:20):
can happen. And he was like okay. And then a
month later he was like, what are you doing on Monday?
Like I don't know, and he's like, I'm moving to
Mexico City, So weekend date, no way, really day and
he moved to Icon Legend, Mexico City. We started dating.
Two months later we got engaged. I know, it's crazy, but.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It's like they say, when you know, you know, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yes yes, And he's sagitarian so he loves We're going
to get into astrology later.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
She's a very goo of course.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So he was like, let's do it and I was okay, Yeah.
We got engaged here in New York. Then we went
back to Mexico. We leave together to see that could happen.
You check them the thing. Yes, yes, and we came here.
We got married in Mexico. We came here for our honeymoon.
And when we were here in New York, he said,
(09:15):
what if we stay? And I was like, well, it
has always been my dream but I don't know, like
it's too much, and he was like, we're never gonna
be ready. We might as well do it, and we
did it. We overstayed. Then we did all the this
and all that process. But we're both are dreamers.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Obviously, it's it was meant to be. These were meant
to be together. You were first of all, you following
him on Twitter.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Legendary, No legendary because I'm like, how many people have
I followed on?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That could be me too.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
He could move from me too, there's no excuse he
would and he did.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yes, Oh my gosh. And you guys have a.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Baby right you were Just I love how vulnerable you
are and raw on your socials. Like every time I
see a video where you're in front of the lights,
I'm like, it's gonna be a good one because it's
so real and I feel like there's that thing where
they feel we feel like we can't do it all.
(10:24):
We can't be a mom, we can't be a wife,
we can't be a performer, we can't follow our dreams.
We have to pick one. And you're a great example
of that. And it obviously doesn't come without it's you know,
struggles and stuff. And you were talking about how your
baby was sick and you felt like the mom guilt
and and it's it's so crazy because like I I
(10:48):
feel like I could see my mom and this show
is just such like a mother daughter theme and you
just expressing those those experiences as well, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, Like it's so real to be able
to do what you want to do and.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You still.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, h h.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
H h.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I feel like at least how I approach social media
and you do it too right, Like it's like, well,
this is me. If you like it, doesn't like it,
you're not you can go. But I'm not here to
pretend I'm something else. And because we have a lot
of those kind of people and they don't portray their reality.
(11:42):
And obviously as Mexican, as Latina, as a curvy woman
in this country, like there's.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Nobody's talking about this nobody's talking about. Everyone thinks that
everybody's like doing really good and like lots of money,
like their skin is popping.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I'm like, I got some pimcil stickers on my face
right now.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yes, So I feel like we just need to share
what it happens.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
That helps to other people to do it too, yes,
because sometimes we think it's like so unachievable. So here's like,
look at me, I'm crying. Yes, I'm living my drain.
But also I feel guilty as ship well.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
And it's your It's so relatable even if you're not
in the performing arts too, of just but I will
tell you, you know, my parents both sacrificed a lot
for they're you know, both my parents are Mexican American
folk artists. My dad's a musician, and so they risked
a lot by putting their careers at the forefront. And
my brother and I were always helping out. But we
(12:44):
grew up thinking that knowing that they are superstars and
they are like the amount of just nights we had
to like base coat different like shrine boxes for.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Them that we're like what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
You know? And then later on we're like you literally
chose to make art as a form of you know,
as your job versus working in nine to five and
being miserable, Like you chose to follow your dreams. And
now I literally saw that growing up. And even though
there were times when I didn't get to see them
or they were busy, it like you don't really remember
(13:19):
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, I'm just saying from like a kid.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Perspective of like you know your baby, and just like
I have fulfeeling that they're going to grow up and
be like, oh my god, my hairs.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
And for example, even like to talking to Alonzo right now,
he because he has seen me during all these past
years going to auditions and call backs and here and there.
You know, he has seen the stroll. He has seen me.
I cry in front of my kid all the time,
all the time. I think you should. Yeah, growing up,
my mom didn't do that, and I feel like she
(13:53):
was like like she wouldn't like let herself be vulnerable
or like let you into the experience.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And I think you have to emotion and that.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
And sometimes like he's like, what's wrong, and I'm like
I'm scared. Yeah, I'm sad. So he has in all
this and how to for him to see me achieve
this big dream. It feels big to him too. When
when I got the the contract and everything, he was like,
oh my Mom, I'm so proud of you, Like this
(14:26):
has always been your dream. You're making your dreams come true.
And even like right now that we did the Tonys.
On the morning of the Tonies, he was like, Mom,
do you know that one of your biggest dreams is
coming true today? And I'm like, well, I am so
glad that you know how important that is for me?
And that's emotional intelligence, yes, And he was like, You've
(14:46):
been working so hard you deserve it. And I'm like wow,
And I hope that's like an example for him. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
I mean he's already going to be years ahead of
like just emotional intelligence.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I want to get into the show.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
So, what has been your experience in the show portraying.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Estella with your also life.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Experience, because I was when I saw you the other
day backstage, I was you know it, And I put
a disclaimer before this episode where right now there's like
a lot of la raids and that was that Saturday
was kind of the start of the peak of how
we're seeing how this administration is dealing with our people,
(15:35):
and you had expressed online as well, and a couple
other of your cast members were saying that it was
just so difficult that day because there is a scene
in the musical where they are rating the next factory,
the next door, and you guys are hiding, And I
really as devastating as that scene was, I was like,
(15:59):
you guys seeing the like white people, like the two
white ladies in front of you, Like y'all are seeing this,
like you feel that you hear the whispers, the whimpers,
the and and I thought that was very powerful. But
as a performer having to not only deal with that
during the day, but then be transported into the eighties
(16:21):
in a different time but still the same, Like how
do you compartmentalize or like I guess, like still hold
your sanity while still giving a performance and not completely crumble.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I think in general, during this process would have been
very aware of the things that have happened are happening,
But this particular Saturday, it was really bad also because
it's happening here in New York, Yes, yeah, which is crazy,
you know, like blocks away and everybody was posting and
(16:55):
it was like too much saying this like on screen
and then going upstairs, and I didn't even think about it.
It was from the verse that start. Stella receives a
call and she and missus Wright says like, oh, the
other factory was raided by immigration, so I'm giving you
(17:16):
that order and something like you know not in my
throat went and I'm like, oh, this is happening right now.
It's not fiction. I wish it was just fiction, but
it's happening in real time. And that day it was
really hard, and I was like even talking to my
cast mates and I'm like, I'm sorry. I know that
(17:38):
I need to be professional, but it's hitting me so bad.
And I think we need to do that because we're humans, and.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I think that's okay. It's it's performance. It's hard, and.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We are working with our body, yes, our feelings, so
to get to be in contact with it. I think
it helps. Also because at the end of the day,
as you said, we are telling this story right now,
in this moment in this country, and there are people
(18:08):
that they think they have never met an undocumented person,
so foolish. But I'm like, okay, if they are meeting
an undocumented person for the first time, and they think
it's estella is it's it's well, you will see who
we are human beings that we really are, and how
(18:30):
immigrants make this country so much better.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Period mic drop, but not really. These are expensive.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
So you know you're co leading role on a Broadway
before obtaining your systant use censorship. What legacy do you
hope to leave for future generations of performers who you
know may see you and be like I want to
do that, Like, like what advice do you have for
them right now?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Big question?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I know.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I think for me it felt very impossible. Yah, And
for a very long time I said, you know, it's
not gonna happen. I love theater and I'm gonna like
keep doing theater all my life and maybe Broadway is
not for me. I do not belong My stories don't
belong there. They don't want them. But I'm gonna keep
doing my art. And by taking that decision, like making
(19:18):
peace with that and just like embracing everything because I
was trying to fit so bad and I would never fit. Girl,
like these curves are too much.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah we'll get into that.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yet, but yeah, I don't look like a white girl.
I don't speak like a white girl. I don't sing
like a white girl, right, And in the moment that
I like was like, Okay, I'm gonna embrace everything that
I am just gonna keep creating my own stuff. And
I started creating my own projects. I started writing and
directing and doing my albums. It was when people started
(19:50):
like to look at me and I was like, oh,
so being me it's more than enough. And I feel
like that's my biggest advice is just be you.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yes, honestly, because that's that's the thing too, especially with
our body image. And the show is called Real Women
Have Curves, And I know, like there's some with that
sentence anyway, Like you know, it was in the nineties
where they were saying that, and and I know that
the message has changed from like real women have curves
(20:21):
is in our lives have curves, you know, which I
think is great, but still not like we we still
need to address the fact that plus sized bodies and
bigger bodies are still politicized.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, and we still are seen.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
As like unworthy at a certain size or unworthy of
a roll or a part.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
We can't get love.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Yeah, And every single piece of media that I see
is like oh you love me despite my love hand
my own house. Oh my god, that's so hot. No boring, boring,
you know, and this show celebrates and I love they
could and in their underwear.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh my yes, did you so Saturday night? I don't
know do people usually stand up.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
In cloud for that? I love that we were so powerful.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
So let me let me tell you guys in a
show or in the show if you've seen the movie,
like you know, they strip down to their underwear and
they do that on the show and.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It just is such a beautiful.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Moment because you guys are dancing full out and singing,
and I'm like, this is a different Burlex show that
I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
It was amazing.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
But how did how did you come to feel comfortable
in your body and start to be like, you know what, Like,
I'm so tired of this narrative.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I feel like it's everyday decision. Honestly, yes, same super transparant.
There are days that days wigs moms that I'm like,
I don't like me, that's the truth, yea. And that's
like body positivity and like it's like because I'm not
gonna lie and sing fat Curvey plus size, we all
(22:09):
have issues and with our bodies right, But in this case,
I feel, honestly, I think therapy helped me a lot
because there was a lot of things that I wouldn't
speak out loud m and you know, that's why we
(22:38):
gave me hakan A's how they are like, I'mikita, you're
eating too much or you're not eating enough? You know
which is it?
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Which?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
More in mind I recently Little Tea at the beginning
of the year, I did a photo shoot where I
embraced like my arms and like exposure therapy where I'm like,
isn't it weird?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
We all do not like our it's and especially when
it's like hot, and I know, I see my friends
with long sleeves and like it kills me and it
gives me like I want to cry because I'm like,
how like we are dying like it's hot and we
don't want to show exactly.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
So I did a photo shoot where I had a
dress and it was like it was cut out like
that and I was like had my arms out, and
my dad's sisters my theas. I found a group chat
where they were fat shaming me, saying that I look
like miss Piggy misspeaking to us is like she's an icon,
miss pigging to fift year old women like those women
like I don't want to be it's.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
A pig like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
So I was like, what is wrong with you guys
like like and especially like you see somebody actively loving themselves.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You should be.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Inspired by that.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And I think that's what it's happening right now here
in the in the musical, and that's why it's like
a big moment, because we all want to be free.
Oh my god. And when you see these women taking
away their clothes, I think it's more than clothes. It's
old beliefs.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
It's liberation.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Is so as an audience member, you're like, I want
to do that. And even I see hello, and even
I see thank you. Five old people doing that like
feeling like so emotional, and I'm like, girl, I know
maybe you haven't had the opportunity. It's never laid. Let's
do it. Yeah. And also, to be honest, every night
(24:29):
is like we're doing this, Okay, we look at ourselves
and of course, of course it's scary to dance with
your body naked from the thousands of people. But I
feel like this, yes, and so close like the first
(24:50):
but it feels free. Yes, it's a beautiful feeling.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I love that. And that totally translated to us where and.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I think we need a dad when we were growing. Yeah,
like if I would have seen someone do that, I
would be like, oh, my fantastic musical way with a
dance number. Yeah, I would have ingrained in my brain
much better.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
So Curly, who.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Is the other half of this podcast, he has a
question for you, so they play this video.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Thank you so much for joining us at the Super
Segoristic Today.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Question for you.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I wanted to know I.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Get insane, insane stage fright anytime I have to get
any stage. I'm always kind of secretly hoping that I
get hit by a bus. I was wondering, do you
have stage right? If you do, what do you do
to get over it? And if you don't, But.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, how do you feel about stage fright?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I think if you don't feel a stage fight, then
don't go to a stage.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
You're dead.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yes, because it's freaking scary to be on a stage,
everyone looking at you and looking at your flaws or
anything that you're going to say or to honestly, right,
now that we just did the Tonys, I was like
for a moment, I was like, Okay, I can let
myself be that emotional, because then I'm gonna like lose myself. Right,
(26:09):
And Cynthia Arribo was exiting and she talked to us
and she said, you deserve to be here. You have
worked so hard. You deserve to be here. Enjoy the moment.
And I was like, yeah, it's all about that. Enjoy
the moment and to step into our power, Like if
we are having the opportunity to hold a mic, to
(26:30):
be on a stage, let's use our platform and to
know that we deserve to be there. Also, tapping helps
a lot. I tap my whole body. That's what I do,
Like how I prepa every time we are about to
start the show, I tap and I'm live, this is
my body, you know, and just breath in and suck
(26:50):
it up.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Oh my god, Cynthia she came to see the show, right.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yes, that day we were all like, what if every
single song that we sing we ended up.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Like like Cynthia's here, Oh my god, Yeah, she's all nice.
I mean, how is the Tony's Like what a freak? Okay,
(27:24):
First of all, as a viewer, I was like, not
to be a little vulgar. They were blue balling us
because I was like, aren't they coming on? I've seen
a lot of men in the caves and in hats
and a lot of white people.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
It's great. They all sounded great. However, Comma, yes, I
was like, where are the girls?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yes? It was nice, it was amazing. It was a
long day. We started that day around nine am, because
you have the dress rehearsal, then you come here, then
you do a show, then you wait a second, then
you prep and then you go to the show and
at night. But it feels surreal. It felt historic, absolut honestly,
(28:06):
and to be around all those legends. I think that
for me was the thing that I was like, I
cannot believe. What do you do? Trye here? Lin, Manuel
is here? Sarah Cynthia like it was the anniversary. It
was like too much. I'm like, I'm glad that my
(28:26):
first time on the Tony Awards is this this one.
It's so special. It was so special and I hope
growing up like watching the Tony performances was my only
way to feel closer to Broadway, like back in Mexico,
I would like watch them on YouTube, and I was like,
I hope and I hope that there are many Latin
(28:50):
Eir kids at home watching these videos and saying, okay,
I belong.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
I feel like everybody probably saw it and was like,
what's this? Yes, like you know that was oh my gosh. Okay,
let's get into the astrology portion of the podcast. So
you sent me your big three. You're Scorpio rising, same
as Curly, Virgo sun, same as Curly, and you're a
(29:15):
cancer moon. Curly's moon is also scorpio. Oh oh oh yeah, correct, correct.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Reaction very much.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
So all of my best best friends are all scorpial moons,
and I'm like, I'm an Aries Aries, Sun, Aries Moon,
Pisces rising. Oh okay, and everyone thinks I like areas
are dramatic. I'm like Scorpios, you are mad, it's okay,
like the sign and they're like in their dark like
(29:46):
corner in a cave like this.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I don't know, it's not I can't my cancer my
cancer balance is me okay because if not Scorpion Virgo there,
it's much but.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Like the I think even has a Scorpio rising and
Virgo son.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, so iconic legends by.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Welcome to the Calvacatta Experience. That's how I would be
on stage here. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
How do you feel about your big three? And do
you feel like it represents you? I mean because you
have your other you have your other placements too, like
your Mars and your Venus, Like do you know those two?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Not my memory? Yeah? I mean yeah, as long I
know my big three. I think I'm very Virgo. Honestly,
I love lists.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Give me exceled.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Level level check check. Also, this is very virgo and
very Latina of me. Every time I'm stressed, I'm like, let's.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Clean, oh, you know right, And.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Like if I'm feeling sad or stressed and like it's
time to clean, that I may love that for you.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
I'm like that would be the opposite for me too.
Stressed out, I'm gonna just bathe in the filth, in
my dirty clothes, just be wrapped.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Up in him and my husband. Every time his is
me cleaning, he's like ooh, but news, you know, because
I'm like like out of nowhere, I just start like yeah.
But a lot of people excuse me as a scorpio
sometimes because I'm like.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Very It's like the rising so it's like what people
first see you as.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, and scorpio, we're too intense, I know, not really.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I think it's because I've been around a lot of scorpios,
you know.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Oh yeah, I love them so much and I can
see like, even though you know.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
They they have a shell also yes, yes.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
And I bet they have a soft underbelly as well,
like how cancers have a you know, a shell and
like a soft inside.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I love crap legs. By the way, sorry, yummy.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Sorry, but my cancer, my moon. I'm so emotional all
the time, dude, I cried. You will love to cry?
I do. I do love to cry.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Cry cry like.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I cry when I am happy, I cry when i'm
start I cry when I'm mad. I hate that so
much because I like just grying, but.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Also feels like damn now, I don't have like anything
to say, so I'm like.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Me, I have always been like that, and I hate
it so much. But that's my cancer.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Crying is therapeutic. It's like the best release.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Empathy is a lot, like it's part of my personality
and sometimes people hate that, like when you have like
best friends and they get into a fight with someone
else and I'm like, well, I can see both sides,
and people are like, no, if you can side between
my mom and my sister. My sister she's a Gemini
and my mom is a Leo, so of energy, and
(33:06):
I've always been like them, Hey, no, I can see
her side, and yeah, like pick a side, and I'm like,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
That you're wrong, but I'm not going to say that
a rgo.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yes, my my kid, Alonso, he was so close to
being a there go. It was like, please not go,
please yes, but thank goodness, he's a Libra. Libra are
my favorite people of the world.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
So when's the birthday?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
September twenty seventh, okay? And when's your birthday September third,
September third, okay, So September Air you to be close
to my birthday, like ready to have her own seasons.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
It's like I just pushed you out. We had our
aholl nine months together.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
That's awful.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
When mom and they You're like, okay, fine, I guess
that's awful.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
We love astrology, and that can cluse the astrology portion
of the podcast. Do You Well, As Curly always says,
I forgot what he says in his outro. Well, I'm
gonna say it now I forgot what he says. Anyway,
thank you so much for being on here. I am
going to actually bring my mom back to New York
(34:23):
to see it because she I felt so guilty seeing
it without her because.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, it was like the whole time of length just
texting her.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, but I was.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Telling you too, Like they have a porch scene.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Anna comes back from a date and her mom is
sitting on the porch and it's like the front of
the house and the house number is one three, one eight,
and that was our nana'cnno's house number. Which the whole
thing was just wild because you know, I was with
my cousin Carrie, who lives here in New York, and
she had lost her dad to cancer a couple of
(34:56):
years ago, and her dad had always been there for
my mom, and my mom's dad was there were brothers, okay,
so he would be my cousin's dad would always take
care of my mom in that way because he's like,
I'll show up for you. And so when he passed away,
it was a thing where my mom and I were like,
you know.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
We're going to show up for each other now.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
And this was like another big trip that me and
my cousin Carrie had I've been on together.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And then to see that together we've lost our shit.
So special. That's so special.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Yes, And it's just such a powerful, beautiful musical and
everybody is like so talented in it, and just congratulation.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Thank you for allowing.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Me to like hop in your your I'm like please,
like I just want to get like five seconds or anything,
and like this is so amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Anything else you want to say? Any any promo?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Follow me at flow Gwena. Listen to my album Broadway
and Spanglas in every platform. Be there. Yay, thank you,
thank you bye.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
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Speaker 4 (36:16):
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I think, goodness, he's not that round. Yeah, don't watch this. Yes,
(00:04):
two months later we got engaged. I know it's crazy,
but it's.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Like if they say when you know you know, you know, yes.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yes, And everybody was posting and it was like too
much saying this like on screen. And then going upstairs
and Cynthia Arrebo was exiting and she talked to us
and she said, you deserve to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Period mic drop, but not really, these are expensive. My
name is Curly and I'm Maya.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
The Super Secret Bestie Club Podcast Season four is here
and we're locked in.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
That means more juicy cheese man, terrible love advice.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Evil spels to cast on your ex.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
We're not doing that this season.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Oh well, this season we're leveling up.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Each episode will feature a special bestie and you're not
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Speaker 1 (00:50):
So what are you waiting for?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Kid in here, Welcome back to another episode of The
Super Secret Bestie Club Pod Cast. Curly is still in
la He has a question for you later on.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
We are backstage.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
We are in her dressing room right now at the
James Earl's Earl Jones Theater in New York Freaking City.
On freaking Broadway. My gosh, She's like doing her vocal
warm ups and I'm like, Queen, don't strain your voice
for this, like whatever, like.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You know, place may need.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
To have for this podcast. What if I'm.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
You can whisper if you want to whisper you your
voice is so good, like, oh my god, I am.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I love a good voice. I love a belter, but
I love a healthy belter.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Do you know what I'm saying? When you know the
juice is.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
There, and the juice is there, Okay, let me get
into the actual, like, let me get into my questions.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Okay, hold on, let me.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Go to my I wrote some stuff up.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Okay, you guys, we have a very exciting episode. So
this is an exciting season for us because this is
season four of our podcast with iHeartRadio and Sonoo. And
I wanted to make this happen so bad because I'm
my mom and I are such fans of the movie
and years ago I had auditioned for the musical Oh
(02:23):
God wow, But I'm not classically trained at Also, I
don't know what they were thinking, girl, but I was like,
you know what, let's see it, of course, and I
took my very first vocal lesson, and the vocal coach
was like, you're only using seventy percent of your voice.
I'm like, right, right, And I still went in there
and I was like, no, you know, like you did it.
(02:44):
It just was so I feel a little connected to
this musical, of course, because me too, me too. But
I'm still waiting if.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I got it or not.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I haven't heard that ask and who can we Victor?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Victor, Oh, I've been in his DMS. I love him. Okay,
so we're backstage. You were making the history.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Of course, this is like a historical moment because you are,
according to the Internet, the first Mexican immigrant to originate
a co leading role on Broadway before obtaining US citizenship.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
That's what they said.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Exactly, That's why they said. That's what the streets are saying. Yeah,
it feels surreal. I didn't know that until I started
doing this, you know. And is it's crazy? Yeah, because
we're in twenty twenty five and Broadway has been around
for so many years, and I'm like, well, it was
(03:42):
about time, right, And I hope now that we opened
that door, many immigrants like myself can come into this
room and the original doors. Yes, you did it. You said,
come on, let's go.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Let's say. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
So, what has been your musical theater journey? I know
you come from a legacy, right, like what what was
the first moment that you were like, wait, I can
sing and I kind of want to do this.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well. I think the very first time that I saw
live musical theater was back in Mexico. I saw sing
and in the rain, and I was like, yes. For me,
that was crazy, like there's a man there singing, yes,
dancing in the rain, like tap tap dancing and in
(04:32):
the rain. For me, that was like wow. It to
my mind and for me, I was like, okay, I
want to do that.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And my dad he was like, well, it's musical theater,
you like it. And then he started like showing me
all these amazing vhs by Judy Garland and you know,
like the classics and sound of music and all that.
And I was like, okay, that's what I want to
do for the rest of my life. And I start
(05:00):
doing musical theater in Mexico. Actually, there there was a
Selina the musical in Mexico. Really I didn't know it.
I did it. I was playing su said when she
was little.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
They need to bring that back.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I know, we need a musical hello, Oh my god.
And then I moved to New York ten years ago,
like to keep pursuing this stream of musical theater Broadway.
And it's been a journey. It's been tough, Like the
(05:38):
reality is that Broadway is a very white business and
it's so good and they have the perfect formula. But
now in the times that we are leaving, I think
we need to tell more stories.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yes, not just one yes.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
And I feel like with this musical it feels bills like,
you know how our community can get a little nervous
about how people tell Latino stories, Latine stories in general,
and if they can get it right. And the whole
thing is, we're not a monolith. This musical I felt.
Me and my cousin were crying, sobbing because.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
We felt so seen.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
We felt so it's like there was so much grief
attached to it. But then as much as we were
felt like, oh my god, this is like so powerful,
somebody would crack a joke yes, and we'd be like,
oh my god, that's exactly who we are, exactly exactly.
I feel like you guys definitely got it right. But
before we get into the musical musical, Curly and I
(06:42):
like to talk about love a lot, and I know
you and your husband are the dynamic power duo.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I want to know a little bit, like was it
love at first sight for you guys? Like how did
you first be?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That's crazy? Okay, thank goodness, he's not that wrong. Yeah,
don't watch this because he's like, no, it wasn't like that.
I followed him on Twitter, okay, like eleven years ago,
twelve years ago, because he would like tweet funny things
about musical theater and he's a composer of Ranger, so
(07:15):
he knows a lot about it. And I would be like, oh,
I don't know. He's funny, but he's also risky. And
I followed him, but it was like just like casual
follow It wasn't like, oh my god, I want him. No.
Then we had so many friends in common, and we
actually met at a friend's wedding in Monterey. Hi's from Monterrey.
(07:37):
I'm from Mexico City. So we saw each other in
that wedding. I was having fun. I was like in
my early twenties, can you imagine, just like right, and
he was staring at me the whole night. He's twelve
years older than me, so I was like, okay, that
senor is looking at me with like a dead face.
(07:58):
Maybe he hates me, Like okay, whatever, And then he
added me on Facebook. So we started chatting and we
became like really good good friends, like for a year
and a half. Then he was like, hey, I'm feeling things.
How do you feel about it? And I was like, well,
you live in and I live in Mexico, like that
(08:20):
can happen. And he was like okay. And then a
month later he was like, what are you doing on Monday?
Like I don't know, and he's like, I'm moving to
Mexico City, So weekend date, no way, really day and
he moved to Icon Legend, Mexico City. We started dating.
Two months later we got engaged. I know, it's crazy, but.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It's like they say, when you know, you know, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yes yes, And he's sagitarian so he loves We're going
to get into astrology later.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
She's a very goo of course.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So he was like, let's do it and I was okay, Yeah.
We got engaged here in New York. Then we went
back to Mexico. We leave together to see that could happen.
You check them the thing. Yes, yes, and we came here.
We got married in Mexico. We came here for our honeymoon.
And when we were here in New York, he said,
(09:15):
what if we stay? And I was like, well, it
has always been my dream but I don't know, like
it's too much, and he was like, we're never gonna
be ready. We might as well do it, and we
did it. We overstayed. Then we did all the this
and all that process. But we're both are dreamers.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Obviously, it's it was meant to be. These were meant
to be together. You were first of all, you following
him on Twitter.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Legendary, No legendary because I'm like, how many people have
I followed on?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That could be me too.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
He could move from me too, there's no excuse he
would and he did.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yes, Oh my gosh. And you guys have a.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Baby right you were Just I love how vulnerable you
are and raw on your socials. Like every time I
see a video where you're in front of the lights,
I'm like, it's gonna be a good one because it's
so real and I feel like there's that thing where
they feel we feel like we can't do it all.
(10:24):
We can't be a mom, we can't be a wife,
we can't be a performer, we can't follow our dreams.
We have to pick one. And you're a great example
of that. And it obviously doesn't come without it's you know,
struggles and stuff. And you were talking about how your
baby was sick and you felt like the mom guilt
and and it's it's so crazy because like I I
(10:48):
feel like I could see my mom and this show
is just such like a mother daughter theme and you
just expressing those those experiences as well, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, Like it's so real to be able
to do what you want to do and.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You still.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, h h.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
H h.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I feel like at least how I approach social media
and you do it too right, Like it's like, well,
this is me. If you like it, doesn't like it,
you're not you can go. But I'm not here to
pretend I'm something else. And because we have a lot
of those kind of people and they don't portray their reality.
(11:42):
And obviously as Mexican, as Latina, as a curvy woman
in this country, like there's.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Nobody's talking about this nobody's talking about. Everyone thinks that
everybody's like doing really good and like lots of money,
like their skin is popping.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I'm like, I got some pimcil stickers on my face
right now.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yes, So I feel like we just need to share
what it happens.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
That helps to other people to do it too, yes,
because sometimes we think it's like so unachievable. So here's like,
look at me, I'm crying. Yes, I'm living my drain.
But also I feel guilty as ship well.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
And it's your It's so relatable even if you're not
in the performing arts too, of just but I will
tell you, you know, my parents both sacrificed a lot
for they're you know, both my parents are Mexican American
folk artists. My dad's a musician, and so they risked
a lot by putting their careers at the forefront. And
my brother and I were always helping out. But we
(12:44):
grew up thinking that knowing that they are superstars and
they are like the amount of just nights we had
to like base coat different like shrine boxes for.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Them that we're like what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
You know? And then later on we're like you literally
chose to make art as a form of you know,
as your job versus working in nine to five and
being miserable, Like you chose to follow your dreams. And
now I literally saw that growing up. And even though
there were times when I didn't get to see them
or they were busy, it like you don't really remember
(13:19):
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, I'm just saying from like a kid.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Perspective of like you know your baby, and just like
I have fulfeeling that they're going to grow up and
be like, oh my god, my hairs.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
And for example, even like to talking to Alonzo right now,
he because he has seen me during all these past
years going to auditions and call backs and here and there.
You know, he has seen the stroll. He has seen me.
I cry in front of my kid all the time,
all the time. I think you should. Yeah, growing up,
my mom didn't do that, and I feel like she
(13:53):
was like like she wouldn't like let herself be vulnerable
or like let you into the experience.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And I think you have to emotion and that.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
And sometimes like he's like, what's wrong, and I'm like
I'm scared. Yeah, I'm sad. So he has in all
this and how to for him to see me achieve
this big dream. It feels big to him too. When
when I got the the contract and everything, he was like,
oh my Mom, I'm so proud of you, Like this
(14:26):
has always been your dream. You're making your dreams come true.
And even like right now that we did the Tonys.
On the morning of the Tonies, he was like, Mom,
do you know that one of your biggest dreams is
coming true today? And I'm like, well, I am so
glad that you know how important that is for me?
And that's emotional intelligence, yes, And he was like, You've
(14:46):
been working so hard you deserve it. And I'm like wow,
And I hope that's like an example for him. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
I mean he's already going to be years ahead of
like just emotional intelligence.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I want to get into the show.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
So, what has been your experience in the show portraying.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Estella with your also life.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Experience, because I was when I saw you the other
day backstage, I was you know it, And I put
a disclaimer before this episode where right now there's like
a lot of la raids and that was that Saturday
was kind of the start of the peak of how
we're seeing how this administration is dealing with our people,
(15:35):
and you had expressed online as well, and a couple
other of your cast members were saying that it was
just so difficult that day because there is a scene
in the musical where they are rating the next factory,
the next door, and you guys are hiding, And I
really as devastating as that scene was, I was like,
(15:59):
you guys seeing the like white people, like the two
white ladies in front of you, Like y'all are seeing this,
like you feel that you hear the whispers, the whimpers,
the and and I thought that was very powerful. But
as a performer having to not only deal with that
during the day, but then be transported into the eighties
(16:21):
in a different time but still the same, Like how
do you compartmentalize or like I guess, like still hold
your sanity while still giving a performance and not completely crumble.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I think in general, during this process would have been
very aware of the things that have happened are happening,
But this particular Saturday, it was really bad also because
it's happening here in New York, Yes, yeah, which is crazy,
you know, like blocks away and everybody was posting and
(16:55):
it was like too much saying this like on screen
and then going upstairs, and I didn't even think about it.
It was from the verse that start. Stella receives a
call and she and missus Wright says like, oh, the
other factory was raided by immigration, so I'm giving you
(17:16):
that order and something like you know not in my
throat went and I'm like, oh, this is happening right now.
It's not fiction. I wish it was just fiction, but
it's happening in real time. And that day it was
really hard, and I was like even talking to my
cast mates and I'm like, I'm sorry. I know that
(17:38):
I need to be professional, but it's hitting me so bad.
And I think we need to do that because we're humans, and.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I think that's okay. It's it's performance. It's hard, and.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We are working with our body, yes, our feelings, so
to get to be in contact with it. I think
it helps. Also because at the end of the day,
as you said, we are telling this story right now,
in this moment in this country, and there are people
(18:08):
that they think they have never met an undocumented person,
so foolish. But I'm like, okay, if they are meeting
an undocumented person for the first time, and they think
it's estella is it's it's well, you will see who
we are human beings that we really are, and how
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immigrants make this country so much better.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Period mic drop, but not really. These are expensive.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
So you know you're co leading role on a Broadway
before obtaining your systant use censorship. What legacy do you
hope to leave for future generations of performers who you
know may see you and be like I want to
do that, Like, like what advice do you have for
them right now?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Big question?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I know.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I think for me it felt very impossible. Yah, And
for a very long time I said, you know, it's
not gonna happen. I love theater and I'm gonna like
keep doing theater all my life and maybe Broadway is
not for me. I do not belong My stories don't
belong there. They don't want them. But I'm gonna keep
doing my art. And by taking that decision, like making
(19:18):
peace with that and just like embracing everything because I
was trying to fit so bad and I would never fit. Girl,
like these curves are too much.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah we'll get into that.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yet, but yeah, I don't look like a white girl.
I don't speak like a white girl. I don't sing
like a white girl, right, And in the moment that
I like was like, Okay, I'm gonna embrace everything that
I am just gonna keep creating my own stuff. And
I started creating my own projects. I started writing and
directing and doing my albums. It was when people started
(19:50):
like to look at me and I was like, oh,
so being me it's more than enough. And I feel
like that's my biggest advice is just be you.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yes, honestly, because that's that's the thing too, especially with
our body image. And the show is called Real Women
Have Curves, And I know, like there's some with that
sentence anyway, Like you know, it was in the nineties
where they were saying that, and and I know that
the message has changed from like real women have curves
(20:21):
is in our lives have curves, you know, which I
think is great, but still not like we we still
need to address the fact that plus sized bodies and
bigger bodies are still politicized.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, and we still are seen.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
As like unworthy at a certain size or unworthy of
a roll or a part.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
We can't get love.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Yeah, And every single piece of media that I see
is like oh you love me despite my love hand
my own house. Oh my god, that's so hot. No boring, boring,
you know, and this show celebrates and I love they
could and in their underwear.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh my yes, did you so Saturday night? I don't
know do people usually stand up.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
In cloud for that? I love that we were so powerful.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
So let me let me tell you guys in a
show or in the show if you've seen the movie,
like you know, they strip down to their underwear and
they do that on the show and.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It just is such a beautiful.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Moment because you guys are dancing full out and singing,
and I'm like, this is a different Burlex show that
I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
It was amazing.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
But how did how did you come to feel comfortable
in your body and start to be like, you know what, Like,
I'm so tired of this narrative.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I feel like it's everyday decision. Honestly, yes, same super transparant.
There are days that days wigs moms that I'm like,
I don't like me, that's the truth, yea. And that's
like body positivity and like it's like because I'm not
gonna lie and sing fat Curvey plus size, we all
(22:09):
have issues and with our bodies right, But in this case,
I feel, honestly, I think therapy helped me a lot
because there was a lot of things that I wouldn't
speak out loud m and you know, that's why we
(22:38):
gave me hakan A's how they are like, I'mikita, you're
eating too much or you're not eating enough? You know
which is it?
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Which?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
More in mind I recently Little Tea at the beginning
of the year, I did a photo shoot where I
embraced like my arms and like exposure therapy where I'm like,
isn't it weird?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
We all do not like our it's and especially when
it's like hot, and I know, I see my friends
with long sleeves and like it kills me and it
gives me like I want to cry because I'm like,
how like we are dying like it's hot and we
don't want to show exactly.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
So I did a photo shoot where I had a
dress and it was like it was cut out like
that and I was like had my arms out, and
my dad's sisters my theas. I found a group chat
where they were fat shaming me, saying that I look
like miss Piggy misspeaking to us is like she's an icon,
miss pigging to fift year old women like those women
like I don't want to be it's.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
A pig like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
So I was like, what is wrong with you guys
like like and especially like you see somebody actively loving themselves.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You should be.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Inspired by that.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And I think that's what it's happening right now here
in the in the musical, and that's why it's like
a big moment, because we all want to be free.
Oh my god. And when you see these women taking
away their clothes, I think it's more than clothes. It's
old beliefs.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
It's liberation.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Is so as an audience member, you're like, I want
to do that. And even I see hello, and even
I see thank you. Five old people doing that like
feeling like so emotional, and I'm like, girl, I know
maybe you haven't had the opportunity. It's never laid. Let's
do it. Yeah. And also, to be honest, every night
(24:29):
is like we're doing this, Okay, we look at ourselves
and of course, of course it's scary to dance with
your body naked from the thousands of people. But I
feel like this, yes, and so close like the first
(24:50):
but it feels free. Yes, it's a beautiful feeling.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I love that. And that totally translated to us where and.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I think we need a dad when we were growing. Yeah,
like if I would have seen someone do that, I
would be like, oh, my fantastic musical way with a
dance number. Yeah, I would have ingrained in my brain
much better.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
So Curly, who.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Is the other half of this podcast, he has a
question for you, so they play this video.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Thank you so much for joining us at the Super
Segoristic Today.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Question for you.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I wanted to know I.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Get insane, insane stage fright anytime I have to get
any stage. I'm always kind of secretly hoping that I
get hit by a bus. I was wondering, do you
have stage right? If you do, what do you do
to get over it? And if you don't, But.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, how do you feel about stage fright?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I think if you don't feel a stage fight, then
don't go to a stage.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
You're dead.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yes, because it's freaking scary to be on a stage,
everyone looking at you and looking at your flaws or
anything that you're going to say or to honestly, right,
now that we just did the Tonys, I was like
for a moment, I was like, Okay, I can let
myself be that emotional, because then I'm gonna like lose myself. Right,
(26:09):
And Cynthia Arribo was exiting and she talked to us
and she said, you deserve to be here. You have
worked so hard. You deserve to be here. Enjoy the moment.
And I was like, yeah, it's all about that. Enjoy
the moment and to step into our power, Like if
we are having the opportunity to hold a mic, to
(26:30):
be on a stage, let's use our platform and to
know that we deserve to be there. Also, tapping helps
a lot. I tap my whole body. That's what I do,
Like how I prepa every time we are about to
start the show, I tap and I'm live, this is
my body, you know, and just breath in and suck
(26:50):
it up.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Oh my god, Cynthia she came to see the show, right.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yes, that day we were all like, what if every
single song that we sing we ended up.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Like like Cynthia's here, Oh my god, Yeah, she's all nice.
I mean, how is the Tony's Like what a freak? Okay,
(27:24):
First of all, as a viewer, I was like, not
to be a little vulgar. They were blue balling us
because I was like, aren't they coming on? I've seen
a lot of men in the caves and in hats
and a lot of white people.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
It's great. They all sounded great. However, Comma, yes, I
was like, where are the girls?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yes? It was nice, it was amazing. It was a
long day. We started that day around nine am, because
you have the dress rehearsal, then you come here, then
you do a show, then you wait a second, then
you prep and then you go to the show and
at night. But it feels surreal. It felt historic, absolut honestly,
(28:06):
and to be around all those legends. I think that
for me was the thing that I was like, I
cannot believe. What do you do? Trye here? Lin, Manuel
is here? Sarah Cynthia like it was the anniversary. It
was like too much. I'm like, I'm glad that my
(28:26):
first time on the Tony Awards is this this one.
It's so special. It was so special and I hope
growing up like watching the Tony performances was my only
way to feel closer to Broadway, like back in Mexico,
I would like watch them on YouTube, and I was like,
I hope and I hope that there are many Latin
(28:50):
Eir kids at home watching these videos and saying, okay,
I belong.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
I feel like everybody probably saw it and was like,
what's this? Yes, like you know that was oh my gosh. Okay,
let's get into the astrology portion of the podcast. So
you sent me your big three. You're Scorpio rising, same
as Curly, Virgo sun, same as Curly, and you're a
(29:15):
cancer moon. Curly's moon is also scorpio. Oh oh oh yeah, correct, correct.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Reaction very much.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
So all of my best best friends are all scorpial moons,
and I'm like, I'm an Aries Aries, Sun, Aries Moon,
Pisces rising. Oh okay, and everyone thinks I like areas
are dramatic. I'm like Scorpios, you are mad, it's okay,
like the sign and they're like in their dark like
(29:46):
corner in a cave like this.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I don't know, it's not I can't my cancer my
cancer balance is me okay because if not Scorpion Virgo there,
it's much but.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Like the I think even has a Scorpio rising and
Virgo son.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, so iconic legends by.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Welcome to the Calvacatta Experience. That's how I would be
on stage here. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
How do you feel about your big three? And do
you feel like it represents you? I mean because you
have your other you have your other placements too, like
your Mars and your Venus, Like do you know those two?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Not my memory? Yeah? I mean yeah, as long I
know my big three. I think I'm very Virgo. Honestly,
I love lists.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Give me exceled.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Level level check check. Also, this is very virgo and
very Latina of me. Every time I'm stressed, I'm like, let's.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Clean, oh, you know right, And.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Like if I'm feeling sad or stressed and like it's
time to clean, that I may love that for you.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
I'm like that would be the opposite for me too.
Stressed out, I'm gonna just bathe in the filth, in
my dirty clothes, just be wrapped.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Up in him and my husband. Every time his is
me cleaning, he's like ooh, but news, you know, because
I'm like like out of nowhere, I just start like yeah.
But a lot of people excuse me as a scorpio
sometimes because I'm like.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Very It's like the rising so it's like what people
first see you as.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, and scorpio, we're too intense, I know, not really.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I think it's because I've been around a lot of scorpios,
you know.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Oh yeah, I love them so much and I can
see like, even though you know.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
They they have a shell also yes, yes.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
And I bet they have a soft underbelly as well,
like how cancers have a you know, a shell and
like a soft inside.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I love crap legs. By the way, sorry, yummy.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Sorry, but my cancer, my moon. I'm so emotional all
the time, dude, I cried. You will love to cry?
I do. I do love to cry.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Cry cry like.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I cry when I am happy, I cry when i'm
start I cry when I'm mad. I hate that so
much because I like just grying, but.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Also feels like damn now, I don't have like anything
to say, so I'm like.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Me, I have always been like that, and I hate
it so much. But that's my cancer.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Crying is therapeutic. It's like the best release.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Empathy is a lot, like it's part of my personality
and sometimes people hate that, like when you have like
best friends and they get into a fight with someone
else and I'm like, well, I can see both sides,
and people are like, no, if you can side between
my mom and my sister. My sister she's a Gemini
and my mom is a Leo, so of energy, and
(33:06):
I've always been like them, Hey, no, I can see
her side, and yeah, like pick a side, and I'm like,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
That you're wrong, but I'm not going to say that
a rgo.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yes, my my kid, Alonso, he was so close to
being a there go. It was like, please not go,
please yes, but thank goodness, he's a Libra. Libra are
my favorite people of the world.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
So when's the birthday?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
September twenty seventh, okay? And when's your birthday September third,
September third, okay, So September Air you to be close
to my birthday, like ready to have her own seasons.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
It's like I just pushed you out. We had our
aholl nine months together.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
That's awful.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
When mom and they You're like, okay, fine, I guess
that's awful.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
We love astrology, and that can cluse the astrology portion
of the podcast. Do You Well, As Curly always says,
I forgot what he says in his outro. Well, I'm
gonna say it now I forgot what he says. Anyway,
thank you so much for being on here. I am
going to actually bring my mom back to New York
(34:23):
to see it because she I felt so guilty seeing
it without her because.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, it was like the whole time of length just
texting her.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, but I was.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Telling you too, Like they have a porch scene.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Anna comes back from a date and her mom is
sitting on the porch and it's like the front of
the house and the house number is one three, one eight,
and that was our nana'cnno's house number. Which the whole
thing was just wild because you know, I was with
my cousin Carrie, who lives here in New York, and
she had lost her dad to cancer a couple of
(34:56):
years ago, and her dad had always been there for
my mom, and my mom's dad was there were brothers, okay,
so he would be my cousin's dad would always take
care of my mom in that way because he's like,
I'll show up for you. And so when he passed away,
it was a thing where my mom and I were like,
you know.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
We're going to show up for each other now.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
And this was like another big trip that me and
my cousin Carrie had I've been on together.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And then to see that together we've lost our shit.
So special. That's so special.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Yes, And it's just such a powerful, beautiful musical and
everybody is like so talented in it, and just congratulation.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Thank you for allowing.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Me to like hop in your your I'm like please,
like I just want to get like five seconds or anything,
and like this is so amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Anything else you want to say? Any any promo?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Follow me at flow Gwena. Listen to my album Broadway
and Spanglas in every platform. Be there. Yay, thank you,
thank you bye.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
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Speaker 4 (36:16):
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