March 20, 2024 • 43 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, Maya, you're kind of messy.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Huh. Why because I texted Jeremy even though he was
getting married today and I stopped their wedding and I
was like, I object, he belongs with me. That's that's
messy for you.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
But no, I meant like, your room is messy.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh so it's not because I broke up a wedding.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
You broke up a whole wedding.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm married. Now get in here.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
My name is Curly and I'm Maya, and welcome to
the Super Secret bestI Club Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
A super secret club where we talk about super secret things.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, like secrets that are super That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
In each episode we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreaks, men,
and of course our favorite secrets.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Get in here, Welcome to another episode of the Super
Secret Bestie Club Podcast. This is Curly Belalasquayzies and I'm Maya.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And I'm Maya.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
How's your spirit?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Spirit is good?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
You know a lot of life stuff happening, but good overall.
Like I feel like I was kind of in this
weird fun because I wasn't like working out, and I
know that sounds weird and that's like Matt, but it's crazy.
How like physical activity, like, no matter what it is,
if you're just dancing, just throw Renaissance on, you know,
just put a little Beyonce on and it just kind
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of like lifts you up. So I went to the
gym yesterday for the first time in a while, and
it's the energy has carried me into all day today.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So it's how's your spirit?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That's great? When I get that way. I listen to
Selena's disco medley and that just dancing alone, like I
think I might do that today. I have a little
walking pad that I got from the TikTok shop and
sometimes walk on there if I'm super If I need
to be stimulated, I'll watch a show and I'll walk
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for like an hour and I don't even know that
it's an hour, and then I'm super sore the next day.
So same. Anyway, today's episode is about being messy. I
think we need to have more representation and normalization and
human denizization on being messy. Sometimes being messy is good.
(02:27):
What Curly has taught me. I've come from the house
of Curly, and he's taught me that messy is not
always bad.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, I always think about miss Frizzle in the Magic
School of bus where she's.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Like, get messy, make mistakes.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
That's terrible, Miss Fizzle. That technically like Lily Tomlin, is
that you?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
That was her?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah? I think so Lily Tomlin should.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Be really she played Miss Frizzle, Wow, make mistakes?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So you have you heard it here, folks? Miss Fizzle
was indeed a lesbian, yes, but yeah, Miss Frizzle is
always like, you know, get messy, make mistakes. And I
really believe that you if you can make enough mistakes
that are healthy and good, why not get in the mud,
so soak around a little bit, you know, get a
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little dirt underneath your nails, the how the smelly cookie
once in a while, you know, like fart in someone's
mouth every now and then.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh is that all right?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But I mean, what does it mean to be messy
for you? What do you think being messy?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Is?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Messy can mean different things. I think there's like a
messy that's like, oh that's that's is that messy? He's
a little messy. And then there's like you're you're being
a little bit messy, messy as in like I think it.
I just look to somebody who's like super freaking drunk
(04:03):
and they're like slurring their words and they're like just
being messy like that where it's when you're interrupting other
people's space and you're like literally either creating a mess
or emotionally drama wise creating a mess for other people.
I think when messiness translates to like creating messes for
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other people as well, like bringing them in like ooh,
that's a little messy, because messy means you have to
clean it up. That's gonna be a lot to clean up.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I feel like for me, MESSI is like it's all
of those things it encompasses kind of like not being
at your best right, like whether that's you made a
wrong statement at dinner, you made a terrible joke, you
made a fool of yourself. I think that it gets
a little sticky when that's just now just your personality, right,
(04:55):
Like if you're like for me, I was like, look,
I would get really messy in my by drinking a
lot and doing all the drugs that I was doing,
but like it wasn't my personality, so once I stopped,
it was kind of like, Okay, we can excuse it
because you were messy right, and so you kind of
hope that it's a two part thing where somebody can
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be messy, but also they'll get to the other side
and be better. I actually don't trust anyone who has
never been messy, and I don't trust anybody who has
never come out of they're messy, because when you like me, like,
I've done so many things in my life where when
I see somebody do one thing, I'm not as judgmental.
(05:38):
I'm not as like, Okay, that's weird, given when you
get to be my age or you're older, and you're
kind of like, and I've always said this, and I
think they sayed in the movie on the show One
Day too, like it's cute to be a drunk mess
when you're twenty two. It's different when you're like in
your late twenties or your early thirties and you're still
being all wild. You're kind of like that you should
know better by now, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So in this episode, we are going to be so
freaking vulnerable and we're gonna let you guys in on
some of our messiest moments. And this shit, I'm embarrassed
to even say this stuff, even though I feel like
I've said it before, but.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
This is I'm gonna have to whisper some of this
stuff because I'm recording at my parents and I'm still so.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Let's start with friendships and family then, so do it.
I have a first little These are gonna be tiny,
little short stories. I used to be a very very
jealous girl. So one time I was at Disneyland with
one of my best friends back in the day and
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they had invited their cousin to Disneyland also, but not
even no, no, no, they didn't invite. We were just there
and their cousin was randomly there, and their cousin missed,
you know, my friend so much and was like, oh
my god, I miss you, Like can we hang out?
And it was supposed to be our day, like mine
and my besties day, and this girl, their cousin kept
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taking my best friend everywhere and like leaving me out,
like wouldn't even talk to me, wouldn't even like it was.
It felt so disrespectful. And I was also just like
I had limited time with you know, this best friend,
and this was like our one day to like hang
out or something. So I was very stressed out and
I just want a dedicated time. So I got really
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mad and I opened up my text and I sent
a text that said, Uugh, so and So's cousin is
so annoying, like can she leave? Like I can't believe
the bull you know, yeah, And I thought I sent
it to my friend Monique, and I sent it to
my best friend instead, who I was walking directly next to.
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And they looked up at me like with the combination
of like a hurt sad uh like what it was
a what the fuck is wrong with you? Face? Like
what the fuck is wrong with you? And I was
like ah. And then they walked off and I was like,
(08:09):
oh shit, like and I chased after them. I was like,
I'm so sorry. That was inappropriate. That was horrible. I'm like,
I just feel like this was supposed to be our
day and I got it, got ambushed by your cousin
and your your cousin is like leaving me out. I'm
not even hanging out with you, and you're not even
doing anything about it, like you're just going along with
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the day. And they were like what am I supposed
to do? Like this is my cousin, Like how am
I supposed to just say buy to my cousin or whatever.
You know, it was a combination of things. But have
you ever done that where you accidentally send a text
to the person that you're talking shit? I mean I
wasn't talking about them, but you know you have.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, I feel like that is so very nineties and
two thousands, where you couldn't unseend things to send, you know,
text messages to the wrong person. I had that once
where I was talking about like a lawyer that I
was working with, and I sent the email to the lawyer.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
This was like my early twenties.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I was still like and the lawyer was like very upset,
like he was trying to be creative, and he.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Was like, I'm not a lawyer. I'm a creative on this.
I'm like, you're a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I had a thing where, you know, and it's kind
of like our brattiness right like when I was younger.
I've had the same kind of bestie since I was
like eight years old, and you know, I talk about
the apps all the time. It's like me Jess, Christy, Crystal,
and then the queen Bee growing up was Ariyo and
I remember when she came in, I got into a
big fight with Jess and we were those girls that
used to walk in like a straight line in the schoolyard,
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like we would like link arms and just walk in
the straight line, like nobody could break this chain. And
one time I got into a fight with Jess and
I made her walk behind us like no, like I
pushed her out of the chain and Jess cried, and
we were all supposed I'll see a movie that day,
and I remember Ariel was like, that's so not cool.
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Ario really set the tone for what was acceptable in
our friend group. And they all went into the girls
bathroom they were getting ready to go to the movies,
and she was like, you know what, Carlitos, don't come.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And I was like what. She's like, yeah, I don't come.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And I remember crying and sobbing and like literally being like.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I'm so sorry about She's like, you don't have to
be so mean, like you're you're a bitch, like you're mean.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And I learned then that it was like I didn't
have to be like a bitchy gig guy. You know
I could be I can still be a bitchy gig
guys sometimes, but like I learned that day that.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I didn't have to be like cruel and mean they
ended up being like, you're forgiven, but we're.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Still gonna go to the movies without you, you know,
And it ended up being like a really good, like
lesson in terms of friendship. I think in terms of
family though, like have I been messy? When am I
not messy with this crazy family? Like I think now
as an adult. Actually one of the things that I'm
really working on truly consciously and something that I keep
talking about because it is hard for me. It's just
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like my patients with parents. I find that when I
talk to a lot of people and they're talking about
their own parents, there's kind of like this this weird
thing where they're like I lose my patients fast with
my parents, you know. And I guess it's more normal
than I thought. But at the same time, I don't
like that everybody gets to experience a really calm, patient,
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chill version of me, and my parents don't get to
experience that as much. So like I'm like I want
them to. What were you going to say?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I thought you were talking about why does everybody experience
the calm versions of my parents?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I was like, hell yeah, Like everyone thinks my parents
are saints, Like see what they felt like really are
behind closed doors. Everyone wants to be their best friends,
but I put work into them. The reason why they're
cool because of me?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Uh huh, But no, I feel like the reason. I
think with our family, we kind of give each other
a lot of room to be human, and so I've
given them a lot of grace in terms of how
they were as young people. And I think they're giving
me a lot of grace.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
And I don't.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I'm not bitchy, er not me And I just get moody.
And when we go to the supermarket, because like you know,
I need us to, I need us to spread out
and get the groceries and not just follow me around
up and down the.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Aisles as well.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, I'm a follower. I like get mad at my
parents for wanting to separate. I'm like, wait, you got
You're gonna go to the meat aisle and my mom's
gonna go to the dairy section. Where do I go?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
It is so grumpy because I don't want to be there.
I want to get what I need and I want
to get out. So if I'm like, we're gonna make
I don't know, fucking sandwiches and I'll go get the bread.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
You will get whatever. I'll see you.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I'll call you to see where you're at, like otherwise
it depends too, Like I don't know, I just never
do that, Like you know when we go on road trips,
like me and you, like, have you noticed I'll walk away,
like when we go to the market, I'll always walk
away and then I'll come.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Back see you cart Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But you know, just walk away, but you always come back.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I was telling Maya. I was like, I actually didn't
start if you know me now, like I'm really all
about like being really clean. I'm all about my smell.
I get compliments on the way that I smell all
the time.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Clean as in like like body odor.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, body odor, a shower, everything is nice and clean
and fresh. But I wasn't always like this. And I
told Maya. I was like, Maya, I didn't actually start
caring about the way that I smelled until I was
like twenty.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Eight years old. Maya, you were so shocked.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
You're like it was a genuine yeah, because yeah, no judgment.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You know, up until that point.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You have to imagine like I was this like cigarette
smoking artist that would didn't work underwear was like sleeping around.
I mean, come on, you know, I was like hooking
up with like people on the streets, like snorting whatever
you put in front of me.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I didn't give a shit about what I smelled like.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
He was funny because I told my mom I was like, well,
Curly was you know, uh like all that stuff where
I'm like, yeah, Curly's been through a lot, like you know,
when he was probably in the club snorting whatever shit.
I was learning how to sing like Britney Spears, like
dancing like her. I'm like, you know, like it's just yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I can just imagine me running into you, like somewhere,
like leaving a club with a cigarette in my hand,
like like remnants of cocaine on my nostril, and seeing
you at her red light with your car like with
your mom, Like I'm this comfased then my lonely ness,
and I'm like, pretty sucks, kid.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
You throw the cigarette at us and then it blows
up the car, the.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Car next to you. Guys, we're gonna be friends in
the future.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Oh right, right, right, right, right right.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I just was a very bratty, moody girl. I did
not know how to handle my emotions. I created a
lot of problems for my parents because I was just
a brat. What about in love? Have we been messy
and love me? Okay? I got a little bit of
a story. When I was breaking up with my first love.
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We were both messy. I was nineteen years old, and
he was just like I wanted to catch him as
I want to catch him being a player. And on Facebook,
they had that like thing where you could see everybody
who's like liking a video or comments comments on a
video or whatever. And I could see that he was
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commenting on a lot of girls videos and like all
this stuff. And so I this is when we were
broken up. I had catfished him and I started adding
all of his friends and all of his family. And
he caught me one time and was like, you stupid,
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what the are you doing adding my cousin? Like cut?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Well okay, wait wait wait wait wait wait, we have
to back it up.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
This this catfish profile photos.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Were you using?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I was using?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I just like looked up kind of like, I don't
want to say I choose to. They were they were
real looking pictures. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Okay, So then you you friended the family?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
How did they find out that it was you?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I don't know, he but he was like, I know
it was you. I know, and I'm like I think
I denied it or whatever. And I was like, you're crazy, dude,
You're weird. You're I like, you know, gasle him. But
he was like the worst to me. So it just
felt like, you know, I wanted to I wanted to
like get him good. And uh, I mean think of
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all the moments that I think of all the moments
that I've been like really hurt by the guys I've dated,
and I've I feel like it's been messy of me
to make a piece of art from that, Like I
would do songs, I would create songs, I would, you know,
at BuzzFeed, make a whole series or a video or
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talk about it. And cause it was like, I mean,
those were like the two biggest breakups like that were
super painful was when I was nineteen and when I
was twenty five. You know, so I and you know,
we create stuff. So I feel I felt very messy.
Like if you look at all the videos I've done
about love, especially like my own video, I just feel
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like damn, damn.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Anyways, So like I feel like when it comes to
the way that you like express yourself with emotions, it's
okay to use meditative things like music or poetry or
acting things out or just talking about it. Like I think,
to hold it in you can cause like a lot
of like aneurysms, it can cause a lot of different
things in your body to work differently. So being able
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to express yourself is like super important, I think, I
feel like for me though, like in my twenties, I
feel like actually as an adult, I have been like
messy in love, like that has been something that I
have been. I think as of recently a little bit
more like, Okay, I need to be a little bit
more picky with how I fall in love, like with
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who I fall in love with. It's kind of hard
because me and Jal we love love like we love
to experience it. I still, to a certain extent, believe
in it and I hope that it finds me. But
in my twenties, I was in love with and we're
still friends, and we still bicker. We bicker the same
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way that we bickered back then. I was in love
with and you know him because I call him my
aries all the time. But I was in love with
like this aries and we would just kind of go
back and forth love. But I remember when we were
in my early twenties, Lady Gaga had come out. I
saw them on Eve first, so Eve the wrapper wore
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these very such glasses or no were they were such
a were they should now? I think there were should
now They're black and they had this gold chain going across.
So I made my own. I went to home depot.
I bought like these like fake uh, these black glasses
from like downtown. I glued like this gold chain to
the top and I would wear them everywhere like they
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were my favorite glasses. I went out with Izzy one
time and we got into I remember we were walking
to on these stairs at this club called the Arena.
It was like where a lot of black and brown
kids would go to listen to hip hop, and we
had like our own little community. And I was walking
down the stairs and I was holding his hand and
I wanted everyone to see us like holding hands, right,
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And he let go of my hand going down the stairs,
and I was so mad.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I was like, why did you hold my hand? Why
did you let go with my hand?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
We were walking down the stairs, Who are you trying
to hide me from like like that. And I had
just watched I remember, like it was still when I
was drinking and I was very young. I had just
watched the movie Lilo and Stitch again, like it was like.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I'm gonna watch this movie.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
And so that night I got really drunk and I
felt like I wanted to be like Stitch. It was
the weirdest thing. I was like, I'm gonna throw a tantrum.
So I literally threw a tantrum. I was kicking my car.
I was crying, and I'm not like that at all.
I have never been like that. I was just like
crying and getting super like just you know, I was kicking.
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I got in my car and I was like my
radio like I was like that drunk. And I remember
I told Izzy like hold these, and I gave him
my glasses like a bitch, like just like hold these,
and Izzy left them on top of like a parking meter.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
He like threw that.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
And you know, we had other like wild moments, but
I feel like those are some moments that are just messy.
I'm not proud of them, but they were a part
of us being really young and like super in love,
like super kind of like that was what I kind
of equated with love at the time, being kind of
he would do this thing where he would get drunk
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and he would fight with me and he would hit
his chest like really hard, like I fucking love you
because blah blah blah blah blah would hit his chest
and I would just be crying and we would just
be those gay guys and like, you know, you kind
of get older and you're like ill, how greasy.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It just sounds musty.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Totally. Even the girl's been like, oh, why don't you
love me? Cry like, well, I don't do love her,
and then like my boyfriend is like, can you it's
o casually known, like no, it's not drug. I was not.
I was so love sick and I was so like
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it was probably the most like purest like innocence of
me coming out of like you're fucking messing with me. Bro,
I love you so much, like I don't want to
not be with you, Like get your fucking ship together.
It is a rite of passage needs to happen, I.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Know, like freaking out on the guy that you're dating.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, relationship and ever really and I'm totally ben that
girl but yeah, it it, I think because love makes
I feel like that's kind of where messiness and all
that stuff stems from, because it makes you fucking wild
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in your head.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah yeah, I will say that I have not since
done as somebody who is not that doesn't drink anymore.
I've never had an episode like that where like lashed
out and lost my cool and kicked my car and
cried and begged somebody to love me. Like I feel
like that's definitely been the growth. But I feel like,
you know, Kbot is right. It is right a passage.
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It needs to happen. You at some point in your life,
need to yell your love at someone and hope that
they reciprocate and just have a cute little like dramatic
delenovela notebook.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I feel it coming on. I feel like I could
totally do that right now with who, I don't know,
the next person. I feel it. I feel like I
want to get like you can make me crazy, you know,
and then have a whole monologue. I just feel bored
so like I want to. I want to. I think
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I want to be a little messy.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
With this with this year, my next monologue towards anyone
that I have dated in the past would be very simple.
It would be Whoopi Goldberg's last line in the movie
The Color Purple where she says, everything you've done to
me already done to you.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And that's how I would get talk to somebody I dated.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I kind of talked about my career a little bit.
When it comes to being messy, I feel like I don't.
That's the only area where I would use kind of
like my love life as inspiration for you know, video
ideas or whatever. And I think sometimes I do regret
some of the videos that I did, but sometimes I
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don't because I'm like, damn, like somebody need to see
that messy girl out there always crying about, you know,
and be like, I don't want to be like that.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Maybe I was like a deterret away from all that stuff.
But where in your career do you feel like you've
been a little messy.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I feel like, by the way whenever people feel their
open body motions and hurt and the painment, that's where
we relate the most, right I know it just.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
When you've been shamed for so long that I don't
want to feel like I'm like, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah, today I was like on like a Whitney Houston,
like if I shot study. Like I literally was like
just on my Whitney Houston cake this morning. And it's relatable,
right because she's kind of just like and I don't
want to go I love you, but I feel like
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in terms of career, I mean, at this point, I
feel like I don't want to say I grew up
in front of the camera because I don't. I'm not
like a child star or nothing. But I do feel
like I a lot of my adult years that molded
me into I am are documented on the internet. Like
there are countless videos of just the way that I
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have fluctuated in weight, the way that my outfits have chained,
my hair, my uh like everything about me, who I
was dating, who I was with, and so there have
been moments that I'm not proud of. I know that
there's a video that exists where I'm drinking. I'm literally
getting drunk on camera, and that's messy for me as
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somebody who has been sober for almost, you know, ten years.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
It's literally.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
But it also again, like I can look at it
one of two ways. I could be, Like, I could
look at it both ways. Actually, I could be like,
that was weird, that was kind of messy. I don't
like that. You can see a lot of me the internet.
And at the same time, I'm like, I would hope
that people can find the humanity in me and be like,
you know, we watched him grow up in real time.
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We watched him get messy and make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
People have been telling us, oh, I grew up with you.
I found you again, and I always ask them, I'm like,
where at what age were you watching us? And fourteen?
So always like fourteen, can you imagine watching everything that
we've been through, Like, I hope they learned from, you know,
(27:35):
a lot of what we did. I feel like buzzfe
I feel like I was. I feel like I was
a little messy.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah, I mean I don't think you were that messy.
I don't remember you being like.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Have you been canceled before on the platform on BuzzFeed?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Not?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
On BuzzFeed depends.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, because I got for me, like, I was kind
of like canceled a few times for like jokes that
I made that I didn't realize were hurtful, and you know,
I was young when I made them.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
When I was talking. I was like twenty five, twenty.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Six, and so it is again something that I'm not
proud of, but it has made for a great story.
I think that when you that's it goes. This is
by the way, this is why when people go, oh,
you're an.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Angel, I hate that.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Like I like I like the idea more of like saints, right,
like when somebody wants to compliment you in terms of
how they feel around you about your spirit. I think
that saints are more relatable because a lot of saints
were terrible people before they chose to get better and
find their faith. And so so I'm not calling myself
a saint by any means.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
So you're a saint. So what you're saying is that
you're a saint.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
So what you're saying is you're a saint.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I feel like when you have gone through a lot
of stuff, you can look at the next person and
be like, I get it. It's okay to fall and
you know, be messy, but you know, get up, It's fine,
it's okay. Do you feel like there have been moments
where you have just been a messy person?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, I think there's been a couple of things when
I know when I feel out of like just not balanced,
I can definitely do that. There was like, I mean,
I don't even know if this is like super messy,
but like there was this one time that this guy
told me to smile, like and I had just come
off of like a red eye flight from Arizona to Miami,
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and I was like going to this event and I
was getting my badge and I was just so like distraught,
and he was like, you should smile more, or you
should try smiling, or you know, one of those things.
And I snapped at him and I was like, don't
tell me what to do with my face, like so serious,
and he like and and him and this other girl
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saw and they were both quiet like she's fucking rude. Yeah,
And I'm like, but isn't it. Isn't it him like
that was being rude, like what makes you feel comfortable
to be like you should smile? Let me see that
smile smile like I'm gonna fucking knock you out. He
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was young. He was probably i would say, like in
his mid twenties.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Also for context for people who are like listening, I
think that people often forget that that's something that women
have to deal with a lot as men telling them
to smile, as like men being like.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
You should smile more. You'd be pretty if you smiled more.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
And that's something I've heard from a lot of women
being like, you know, told what to do with their
face and their bodies. And so I feel like for
somebody being like, what's prop what's wrong with metiity smile?
Like for contexts, it just is like it's just weird
for guys to tell women like what to do.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But I feel like in terms of for me, like.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
In life, I feel like I'm messy every other day.
I feel like I am messy every other day, and
I have learned that is part of adulthood. Like I
don't know anybody who's an adult. It's all fake. By
the way, everything in life is like nobody's better than you,
nobody's smarter than you. There's some people who are more intelligent.
There's some people who can read a contract, like you
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know what I was thinking, I'm like, there are people
who know how to read really well. Yeah I am
not one of them. My comprehension of reading is like
where are the pictures and the words and where is
the audio?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Especially when I'm saying yes. When there's dialogue and game games,
I'm like skip skip skip, skip skip, and then I'm like, wait,
what's happening?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I literally like earlier you were talking about and this
is why I love with you. I love with you
is why I love you so much because the way
that your brain works is like so like you can
read like a program or you can read. The other
day we were talking about like a paper piece of
paper with writing on it, and you pulled it up
right away and you found the place that we needed
to get to the paper.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
And I was like, how did her brain do that?
Because mine does not do that.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I just I feel like I go into like this
quick fog and I just I can't get out of it.
But in saying that, I think that there different people
have different strengths, but it doesn't make anyone better, It
doesn't make anybody less than.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Shit? What the fuck was my.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Point that I'm perfect? Since you were just saying that,
I you didn't finish the sentence, and that is why
go ahead. I know you wanted to say it.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Don't be shy me choking on shares words.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
But yeah, I feel like what was what was I?
What was my point in.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Saying that, like, just say that I'm perfect.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
There are a lot of words.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
That's what You're being messy right now? Oh, I know
what I'm saying, That room messy right now.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Every adult that I know is messy as fuck. I
don't know any adult that has it together in any way.
And when you think that you do, the next person
has it more together, and then you have it more
together than they do in one department. So I kind
of just feel like, you know what, the whole human
race is messy, and we all probably smell like butthole.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
So and I'm literally a messy person. Like if I
were to turn the camera, my house is messy, my
room is messy. If you saw my Instagram and TikTok
where I do like a little cleaning video, it's back
to where it was in that cleaning video a little
bit worse. So, and I don't like when people are like,
(33:53):
your house or your room is the state of your mind.
I'm like, yeah, but how come I'm still hustling and
making all these deals happen, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah, I do believe I actually am one of those people,
but I'm I think mine is linked to more like
my OCD. I think mine is more linked to like rituals.
I can feel my mind and my spirit changing if
my house isn't clean, like I can feel the difference
in my energy.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
But that's not everybody. That's not you. Like You're right,
you are hustling, you are making shit happen, you are
doing the thing.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
But I do. I do feel better when I clean,
and it's because it just is when I clean, then
I can't find anything.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah, I mean, look, I Oprah said that everything has
a home, everything has a place in the house, like
before open was problematic, but like I feel like for me,
I just said it out loud yesterday over dinner, I
said about I think, you know, part of the things
with OCD is that you have rituals and superstitions behind
those rituals. And part of what I believe is like
(34:51):
a ritual or a superstition, is that if I don't
keep my apartment clean, I'm going to somehow become depressed,
and I'm somehow going to become an alcoholic again and
get back into using, and just everything is going to
go downhill. And it's like it's okay for there to
be socks on the floor.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
You know what I mean. In my head, I'm like, no,
you won't. You will not find socks on the floor
for more than one day.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Oh socks on the floor. That you said, sauce on.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
The floor, Oh, sauce on the floor. It's fine, Like you.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Know, listen what socks aren't on the floor. You know
what I'm saying. Welcome to the zodiac section. Which sign
has the most messy? Regrets?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Which sign is?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I would say, like, which sign is the most messiest?
Which which is the most messiest sign? I think cancers
and Geminis are up there a little bit. I've been
like libras. I've lived with a Libra before. To libras,
they're not physically messy, but emotionally very messy, with zero
(36:06):
disregard to or they only care about the ones I've experienced.
They only care about saving face for people and like
kind of being a little fake and then behind closed
doors they'll they'll say what they really mean, libras. Libras.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah, I feel like for me, the messy sign. It's
weird because I feel like everyone I can think of
a lot of people who are messy, but for me,
I feel like the messiest signs would be It's different
because I feel like fire signs can be reckless. I
don't think that they're messy. I think that air scigence
can be ambivalent, or they can be kind of like
(36:46):
they don't really care as much. But I don't know
that that makes them messy. Water science can get emotional.
But what's to say that emotions are messy?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Scor Fields are messy.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I mean that's what I wrote.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I wrote, Oh I see, I see.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, yeah, I wrote scoros.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Are messy and Taurus Taurus are messy.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
What I feel like.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
About scorpios are that they'll do something that they will
just kind of like ruminate on later.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
So they'll do something and be like, oh my god,
I can't believe I said that. Oh my god, I
can't believe it did that.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
And I feel like Virgos are like that, and Sagittarius
are like that too.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Well.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
They'll kind of like relive a lot of moments in
their head, like, oh my god, I can't believe I
did that.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
But Sagittarius, I feel like, don't give a fuck that
they did that. I feel like they don't really take
it seriously. I think they're like, oh my god, that happened. Yeah.
I feel like Capricorns can be messy, but then deny
it later on, deny it and learn quickly from that mistake.
(37:52):
Like you will catch them messy once in a while,
but they will tighten up that freaking ship real so well,
like quickly, because they don't ever want to appear, you know,
like they like I I think like the Capricorns that
I have been around, it has been hard to get
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emotion out of them because they're so obsessed with their
position in life and work, you know. So I feel
like with that comes to a certain level of like
an in house pr mentality.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
It's so funny because I just met this Capricorn in
Vegas and she was telling me that people have been
telling her that Capricorns are kind of ruthless in their delivery,
and she's like, it's made me extremely paranoid and how
I deliver a lot of stuff because I'm worried that
when I think I'm being gentle and I think I'm
being direct and gentle, I'm.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Just I'm not.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
And I'm like, you're probably I was like, you're probably not, Like, yeah,
you guys are known for being like kind of ruthless
in your delivery. But I don't know, I think in
different ways. I do feel like if I had to vote,
who were my who was the element that was the messiest? Mmm,
(39:21):
I'd give it to the water signs.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Probably I give to the water signs. I think I'm
gonna say aries.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I was gonna say the reckless fire signs.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
We're just trying to keep it fun.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Oh my god, reckless. I think the Earth signs are
two up their own, buttholes to fucking ruin anything.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
We're ruining it for ourselves. We're not reading for anybody else.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
They're ruining it by doing nothing about it. We're just
like whatever, and then concludes the astrology portion of the podcast, Well, maya,
here we are against how do you please? I kind
of wish that I was messier in my younger years,
you know, I wish that I had. I'm sure there
(40:08):
was there is a lot I can like think of,
But I have this thing where I am really really
harsh on myself that I don't think I would have
ever let myself get too messy because I always really
cared about what my parents thought of me. Yeah, so
I never crossed that line ever, you know, I was, Yeah,
(40:28):
I was. It was a little goody two shoes like
type of thing, and I kind of I think the
only time that I really acted out was like when
I was nineteen, and that was it. After that, Like,
you know, I've always had enough money, more than enough
money in the bank. I've never asked my parents for
anything like that, Like I've always given to them, And
(40:51):
so I'm like, I feel like I care too much
about that part, you know, And I think that I
wish I was a little bit more messy because my
parents were messy as fuck, as as children and as
teenagers and as especially as adults, and they have all
these stories, and I do feel like I have some stories,
(41:12):
but you know, I think, like, yeah, I feel like
I could be a little bit messier.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yeah, I do feel like, you know, taking into an
account that you are a woman and then Latina, like
there's a lot of expectations on women to act a
certain type of way, right, you guys aren't necessarily given
the same space to get messy. One of the things
that my dad used to tell me my twenties was like,
sleep with as many people as you want, be safe,
be careful, but you know, have fun. I'm not sure
(41:37):
that that's advice that a lot of people want to
give their daughters, you know, but I think that if
I were to have children now, I would be like,
please be safe, Please be aware of your surroundings. As
much as you can get messy, have you know, sleep
with as many people who want to sleep with, wear protection,
Try not to drink, have fun the outfits that you
(42:00):
want to wear. You know, I have worn so many ugly,
questionable outfits, but there is not a single regret in
me now now that I dress super simple, I'm like, yeah,
I've worn it all.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Like there's nothing that I have not worn, you know,
there's nothing that I have not There's no sort of
human that I have not kissed and enjoyed. So I
think that the other thing, too, is that it's never
too late.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I'm also gonna get let's get out.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
I'm like in the new renaissance of Yeah, I'm in
the renaissance of who I am as a human, and
I think it's never too late. So if you're listening
or for you maya too, like, it's never too late
to be a slide.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
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Speaker 1 (43:33):
You listen to your favorite shows.
Oh, Maya, you're kind of messy.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Huh. Why because I texted Jeremy even though he was
getting married today and I stopped their wedding and I
was like, I object, he belongs with me. That's that's
messy for you.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
But no, I meant like, your room is messy.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh so it's not because I broke up a wedding.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
You broke up a whole wedding.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm married. Now get in here.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
My name is Curly and I'm Maya, and welcome to
the Super Secret bestI Club Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
A super secret club where we talk about super secret things.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, like secrets that are super That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
In each episode we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreaks, men,
and of course our favorite secrets.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Get in here, Welcome to another episode of the Super
Secret Bestie Club Podcast. This is Curly Belalasquayzies and I'm Maya.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And I'm Maya.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
How's your spirit?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Spirit is good?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
You know a lot of life stuff happening, but good overall.
Like I feel like I was kind of in this
weird fun because I wasn't like working out, and I
know that sounds weird and that's like Matt, but it's crazy.
How like physical activity, like, no matter what it is,
if you're just dancing, just throw Renaissance on, you know,
just put a little Beyonce on and it just kind
(01:32):
of like lifts you up. So I went to the
gym yesterday for the first time in a while, and
it's the energy has carried me into all day today.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So it's how's your spirit?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That's great? When I get that way. I listen to
Selena's disco medley and that just dancing alone, like I
think I might do that today. I have a little
walking pad that I got from the TikTok shop and
sometimes walk on there if I'm super If I need
to be stimulated, I'll watch a show and I'll walk
(02:04):
for like an hour and I don't even know that
it's an hour, and then I'm super sore the next day.
So same. Anyway, today's episode is about being messy. I
think we need to have more representation and normalization and
human denizization on being messy. Sometimes being messy is good.
(02:27):
What Curly has taught me. I've come from the house
of Curly, and he's taught me that messy is not
always bad.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, I always think about miss Frizzle in the Magic
School of bus where she's.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Like, get messy, make mistakes.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
That's terrible, Miss Fizzle. That technically like Lily Tomlin, is
that you?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
That was her?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah? I think so Lily Tomlin should.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Be really she played Miss Frizzle, Wow, make mistakes?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So you have you heard it here, folks? Miss Fizzle
was indeed a lesbian, yes, but yeah, Miss Frizzle is
always like, you know, get messy, make mistakes. And I
really believe that you if you can make enough mistakes
that are healthy and good, why not get in the mud,
so soak around a little bit, you know, get a
(03:23):
little dirt underneath your nails, the how the smelly cookie
once in a while, you know, like fart in someone's
mouth every now and then.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh is that all right?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But I mean, what does it mean to be messy
for you? What do you think being messy?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Is?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Messy can mean different things. I think there's like a
messy that's like, oh that's that's is that messy? He's
a little messy. And then there's like you're you're being
a little bit messy, messy as in like I think it.
I just look to somebody who's like super freaking drunk
(04:03):
and they're like slurring their words and they're like just
being messy like that where it's when you're interrupting other
people's space and you're like literally either creating a mess
or emotionally drama wise creating a mess for other people.
I think when messiness translates to like creating messes for
(04:25):
other people as well, like bringing them in like ooh,
that's a little messy, because messy means you have to
clean it up. That's gonna be a lot to clean up.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I feel like for me, MESSI is like it's all
of those things it encompasses kind of like not being
at your best right, like whether that's you made a
wrong statement at dinner, you made a terrible joke, you
made a fool of yourself. I think that it gets
a little sticky when that's just now just your personality, right,
(04:55):
Like if you're like for me, I was like, look,
I would get really messy in my by drinking a
lot and doing all the drugs that I was doing,
but like it wasn't my personality, so once I stopped,
it was kind of like, Okay, we can excuse it
because you were messy right, and so you kind of
hope that it's a two part thing where somebody can
(05:16):
be messy, but also they'll get to the other side
and be better. I actually don't trust anyone who has
never been messy, and I don't trust anybody who has
never come out of they're messy, because when you like me, like,
I've done so many things in my life where when
I see somebody do one thing, I'm not as judgmental.
(05:38):
I'm not as like, Okay, that's weird, given when you
get to be my age or you're older, and you're
kind of like, and I've always said this, and I
think they sayed in the movie on the show One
Day too, like it's cute to be a drunk mess
when you're twenty two. It's different when you're like in
your late twenties or your early thirties and you're still
being all wild. You're kind of like that you should
know better by now, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So in this episode, we are going to be so
freaking vulnerable and we're gonna let you guys in on
some of our messiest moments. And this shit, I'm embarrassed
to even say this stuff, even though I feel like
I've said it before, but.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
This is I'm gonna have to whisper some of this
stuff because I'm recording at my parents and I'm still so.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Let's start with friendships and family then, so do it.
I have a first little These are gonna be tiny,
little short stories. I used to be a very very
jealous girl. So one time I was at Disneyland with
one of my best friends back in the day and
(06:42):
they had invited their cousin to Disneyland also, but not
even no, no, no, they didn't invite. We were just there
and their cousin was randomly there, and their cousin missed,
you know, my friend so much and was like, oh
my god, I miss you, Like can we hang out?
And it was supposed to be our day, like mine
and my besties day, and this girl, their cousin kept
(07:04):
taking my best friend everywhere and like leaving me out,
like wouldn't even talk to me, wouldn't even like it was.
It felt so disrespectful. And I was also just like
I had limited time with you know, this best friend,
and this was like our one day to like hang
out or something. So I was very stressed out and
I just want a dedicated time. So I got really
(07:25):
mad and I opened up my text and I sent
a text that said, Uugh, so and So's cousin is
so annoying, like can she leave? Like I can't believe
the bull you know, yeah, And I thought I sent
it to my friend Monique, and I sent it to
my best friend instead, who I was walking directly next to.
(07:49):
And they looked up at me like with the combination
of like a hurt sad uh like what it was
a what the fuck is wrong with you? Face? Like
what the fuck is wrong with you? And I was
like ah. And then they walked off and I was like,
(08:09):
oh shit, like and I chased after them. I was like,
I'm so sorry. That was inappropriate. That was horrible. I'm like,
I just feel like this was supposed to be our
day and I got it, got ambushed by your cousin
and your your cousin is like leaving me out. I'm
not even hanging out with you, and you're not even
doing anything about it, like you're just going along with
(08:30):
the day. And they were like what am I supposed
to do? Like this is my cousin, Like how am
I supposed to just say buy to my cousin or whatever.
You know, it was a combination of things. But have
you ever done that where you accidentally send a text
to the person that you're talking shit? I mean I
wasn't talking about them, but you know you have.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, I feel like that is so very nineties and
two thousands, where you couldn't unseend things to send, you know,
text messages to the wrong person. I had that once
where I was talking about like a lawyer that I
was working with, and I sent the email to the lawyer.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
This was like my early twenties.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I was still like and the lawyer was like very upset,
like he was trying to be creative, and he.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Was like, I'm not a lawyer. I'm a creative on this.
I'm like, you're a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I had a thing where, you know, and it's kind
of like our brattiness right like when I was younger.
I've had the same kind of bestie since I was
like eight years old, and you know, I talk about
the apps all the time. It's like me Jess, Christy, Crystal,
and then the queen Bee growing up was Ariyo and
I remember when she came in, I got into a
big fight with Jess and we were those girls that
used to walk in like a straight line in the schoolyard,
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like we would like link arms and just walk in
the straight line, like nobody could break this chain. And
one time I got into a fight with Jess and
I made her walk behind us like no, like I
pushed her out of the chain and Jess cried, and
we were all supposed I'll see a movie that day,
and I remember Ariel was like, that's so not cool.
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Ario really set the tone for what was acceptable in
our friend group. And they all went into the girls
bathroom they were getting ready to go to the movies,
and she was like, you know what, Carlitos, don't come.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And I was like what. She's like, yeah, I don't come.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And I remember crying and sobbing and like literally being like.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I'm so sorry about She's like, you don't have to
be so mean, like you're you're a bitch, like you're mean.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And I learned then that it was like I didn't
have to be like a bitchy gig guy. You know
I could be I can still be a bitchy gig
guys sometimes, but like I learned that day that.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I didn't have to be like cruel and mean they
ended up being like, you're forgiven, but we're.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Still gonna go to the movies without you, you know,
And it ended up being like a really good, like
lesson in terms of friendship. I think in terms of
family though, like have I been messy? When am I
not messy with this crazy family? Like I think now
as an adult. Actually one of the things that I'm
really working on truly consciously and something that I keep
talking about because it is hard for me. It's just
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like my patients with parents. I find that when I
talk to a lot of people and they're talking about
their own parents, there's kind of like this this weird
thing where they're like I lose my patients fast with
my parents, you know. And I guess it's more normal
than I thought. But at the same time, I don't
like that everybody gets to experience a really calm, patient,
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chill version of me, and my parents don't get to
experience that as much. So like I'm like I want
them to. What were you going to say?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I thought you were talking about why does everybody experience
the calm versions of my parents?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I was like, hell yeah, Like everyone thinks my parents
are saints, Like see what they felt like really are
behind closed doors. Everyone wants to be their best friends,
but I put work into them. The reason why they're
cool because of me?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Uh huh, But no, I feel like the reason. I
think with our family, we kind of give each other
a lot of room to be human, and so I've
given them a lot of grace in terms of how
they were as young people. And I think they're giving
me a lot of grace.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
And I don't.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I'm not bitchy, er not me And I just get moody.
And when we go to the supermarket, because like you know,
I need us to, I need us to spread out
and get the groceries and not just follow me around
up and down the.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Aisles as well.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, I'm a follower. I like get mad at my
parents for wanting to separate. I'm like, wait, you got
You're gonna go to the meat aisle and my mom's
gonna go to the dairy section. Where do I go?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
It is so grumpy because I don't want to be there.
I want to get what I need and I want
to get out. So if I'm like, we're gonna make
I don't know, fucking sandwiches and I'll go get the bread.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
You will get whatever. I'll see you.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I'll call you to see where you're at, like otherwise
it depends too, Like I don't know, I just never
do that, Like you know when we go on road trips,
like me and you, like, have you noticed I'll walk away,
like when we go to the market, I'll always walk
away and then I'll come.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Back see you cart Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But you know, just walk away, but you always come back.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I was telling Maya. I was like, I actually didn't
start if you know me now, like I'm really all
about like being really clean. I'm all about my smell.
I get compliments on the way that I smell all
the time.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Clean as in like like body odor.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, body odor, a shower, everything is nice and clean
and fresh. But I wasn't always like this. And I
told Maya. I was like, Maya, I didn't actually start
caring about the way that I smelled until I was
like twenty.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Eight years old. Maya, you were so shocked.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
You're like it was a genuine yeah, because yeah, no judgment.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You know, up until that point.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You have to imagine like I was this like cigarette
smoking artist that would didn't work underwear was like sleeping around.
I mean, come on, you know, I was like hooking
up with like people on the streets, like snorting whatever
you put in front of me.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I didn't give a shit about what I smelled like.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
He was funny because I told my mom I was like, well,
Curly was you know, uh like all that stuff where
I'm like, yeah, Curly's been through a lot, like you know,
when he was probably in the club snorting whatever shit.
I was learning how to sing like Britney Spears, like
dancing like her. I'm like, you know, like it's just yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I can just imagine me running into you, like somewhere,
like leaving a club with a cigarette in my hand,
like like remnants of cocaine on my nostril, and seeing
you at her red light with your car like with
your mom, Like I'm this comfased then my lonely ness,
and I'm like, pretty sucks, kid.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
You throw the cigarette at us and then it blows
up the car, the.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Car next to you. Guys, we're gonna be friends in
the future.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Oh right, right, right, right, right right.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I just was a very bratty, moody girl. I did
not know how to handle my emotions. I created a
lot of problems for my parents because I was just
a brat. What about in love? Have we been messy
and love me? Okay? I got a little bit of
a story. When I was breaking up with my first love.
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We were both messy. I was nineteen years old, and
he was just like I wanted to catch him as
I want to catch him being a player. And on Facebook,
they had that like thing where you could see everybody
who's like liking a video or comments comments on a
video or whatever. And I could see that he was
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commenting on a lot of girls videos and like all
this stuff. And so I this is when we were
broken up. I had catfished him and I started adding
all of his friends and all of his family. And
he caught me one time and was like, you stupid,
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what the are you doing adding my cousin? Like cut?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Well okay, wait wait wait wait wait wait, we have
to back it up.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
This this catfish profile photos.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Were you using?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I was using?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I just like looked up kind of like, I don't
want to say I choose to. They were they were
real looking pictures. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Okay, So then you you friended the family?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
How did they find out that it was you?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I don't know, he but he was like, I know
it was you. I know, and I'm like I think
I denied it or whatever. And I was like, you're crazy, dude,
You're weird. You're I like, you know, gasle him. But
he was like the worst to me. So it just
felt like, you know, I wanted to I wanted to
like get him good. And uh, I mean think of
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all the moments that I think of all the moments
that I've been like really hurt by the guys I've dated,
and I've I feel like it's been messy of me
to make a piece of art from that, Like I
would do songs, I would create songs, I would, you know,
at BuzzFeed, make a whole series or a video or
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talk about it. And cause it was like, I mean,
those were like the two biggest breakups like that were
super painful was when I was nineteen and when I
was twenty five. You know, so I and you know,
we create stuff. So I feel I felt very messy.
Like if you look at all the videos I've done
about love, especially like my own video, I just feel
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like damn, damn.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Anyways, So like I feel like when it comes to
the way that you like express yourself with emotions, it's
okay to use meditative things like music or poetry or
acting things out or just talking about it. Like I think,
to hold it in you can cause like a lot
of like aneurysms, it can cause a lot of different
things in your body to work differently. So being able
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to express yourself is like super important, I think, I
feel like for me though, like in my twenties, I
feel like actually as an adult, I have been like
messy in love, like that has been something that I
have been. I think as of recently a little bit
more like, Okay, I need to be a little bit
more picky with how I fall in love, like with
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who I fall in love with. It's kind of hard
because me and Jal we love love like we love
to experience it. I still, to a certain extent, believe
in it and I hope that it finds me. But
in my twenties, I was in love with and we're
still friends, and we still bicker. We bicker the same
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way that we bickered back then. I was in love
with and you know him because I call him my
aries all the time. But I was in love with
like this aries and we would just kind of go
back and forth love. But I remember when we were
in my early twenties, Lady Gaga had come out. I
saw them on Eve first, so Eve the wrapper wore
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these very such glasses or no were they were such
a were they should now? I think there were should
now They're black and they had this gold chain going across.
So I made my own. I went to home depot.
I bought like these like fake uh, these black glasses
from like downtown. I glued like this gold chain to
the top and I would wear them everywhere like they
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were my favorite glasses. I went out with Izzy one
time and we got into I remember we were walking
to on these stairs at this club called the Arena.
It was like where a lot of black and brown
kids would go to listen to hip hop, and we
had like our own little community. And I was walking
down the stairs and I was holding his hand and
I wanted everyone to see us like holding hands, right,
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And he let go of my hand going down the stairs,
and I was so mad.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I was like, why did you hold my hand? Why
did you let go with my hand?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
We were walking down the stairs, Who are you trying
to hide me from like like that. And I had
just watched I remember, like it was still when I
was drinking and I was very young. I had just
watched the movie Lilo and Stitch again, like it was like.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I'm gonna watch this movie.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
And so that night I got really drunk and I
felt like I wanted to be like Stitch. It was
the weirdest thing. I was like, I'm gonna throw a tantrum.
So I literally threw a tantrum. I was kicking my car.
I was crying, and I'm not like that at all.
I have never been like that. I was just like
crying and getting super like just you know, I was kicking.
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I got in my car and I was like my
radio like I was like that drunk. And I remember
I told Izzy like hold these, and I gave him
my glasses like a bitch, like just like hold these,
and Izzy left them on top of like a parking meter.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
He like threw that.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
And you know, we had other like wild moments, but
I feel like those are some moments that are just messy.
I'm not proud of them, but they were a part
of us being really young and like super in love,
like super kind of like that was what I kind
of equated with love at the time, being kind of
he would do this thing where he would get drunk
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and he would fight with me and he would hit
his chest like really hard, like I fucking love you
because blah blah blah blah blah would hit his chest
and I would just be crying and we would just
be those gay guys and like, you know, you kind
of get older and you're like ill, how greasy.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It just sounds musty.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Totally. Even the girl's been like, oh, why don't you
love me? Cry like, well, I don't do love her,
and then like my boyfriend is like, can you it's
o casually known, like no, it's not drug. I was not.
I was so love sick and I was so like
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it was probably the most like purest like innocence of
me coming out of like you're fucking messing with me. Bro,
I love you so much, like I don't want to
not be with you, Like get your fucking ship together.
It is a rite of passage needs to happen, I.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Know, like freaking out on the guy that you're dating.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, relationship and ever really and I'm totally ben that
girl but yeah, it it, I think because love makes
I feel like that's kind of where messiness and all
that stuff stems from, because it makes you fucking wild
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in your head.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah yeah, I will say that I have not since
done as somebody who is not that doesn't drink anymore.
I've never had an episode like that where like lashed
out and lost my cool and kicked my car and
cried and begged somebody to love me. Like I feel
like that's definitely been the growth. But I feel like,
you know, Kbot is right. It is right a passage.
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It needs to happen. You at some point in your life,
need to yell your love at someone and hope that
they reciprocate and just have a cute little like dramatic
delenovela notebook.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I feel it coming on. I feel like I could
totally do that right now with who, I don't know,
the next person. I feel it. I feel like I
want to get like you can make me crazy, you know,
and then have a whole monologue. I just feel bored
so like I want to. I want to. I think
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I want to be a little messy.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
With this with this year, my next monologue towards anyone
that I have dated in the past would be very simple.
It would be Whoopi Goldberg's last line in the movie
The Color Purple where she says, everything you've done to
me already done to you.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And that's how I would get talk to somebody I dated.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I kind of talked about my career a little bit.
When it comes to being messy, I feel like I don't.
That's the only area where I would use kind of
like my love life as inspiration for you know, video
ideas or whatever. And I think sometimes I do regret
some of the videos that I did, but sometimes I
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don't because I'm like, damn, like somebody need to see
that messy girl out there always crying about, you know,
and be like, I don't want to be like that.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Maybe I was like a deterret away from all that stuff.
But where in your career do you feel like you've
been a little messy.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I feel like, by the way whenever people feel their
open body motions and hurt and the painment, that's where
we relate the most, right I know it just.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
When you've been shamed for so long that I don't
want to feel like I'm like, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah, today I was like on like a Whitney Houston,
like if I shot study. Like I literally was like
just on my Whitney Houston cake this morning. And it's relatable,
right because she's kind of just like and I don't
want to go I love you, but I feel like
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in terms of career, I mean, at this point, I
feel like I don't want to say I grew up
in front of the camera because I don't. I'm not
like a child star or nothing. But I do feel
like I a lot of my adult years that molded
me into I am are documented on the internet. Like
there are countless videos of just the way that I
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have fluctuated in weight, the way that my outfits have chained,
my hair, my uh like everything about me, who I
was dating, who I was with, and so there have
been moments that I'm not proud of. I know that
there's a video that exists where I'm drinking. I'm literally
getting drunk on camera, and that's messy for me as
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somebody who has been sober for almost, you know, ten years.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
It's literally.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
But it also again, like I can look at it
one of two ways. I could be, Like, I could
look at it both ways. Actually, I could be like,
that was weird, that was kind of messy. I don't
like that. You can see a lot of me the internet.
And at the same time, I'm like, I would hope
that people can find the humanity in me and be like,
you know, we watched him grow up in real time.
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We watched him get messy and make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
People have been telling us, oh, I grew up with you.
I found you again, and I always ask them, I'm like,
where at what age were you watching us? And fourteen?
So always like fourteen, can you imagine watching everything that
we've been through, Like, I hope they learned from, you know,
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a lot of what we did. I feel like buzzfe
I feel like I was. I feel like I was
a little messy.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah, I mean I don't think you were that messy.
I don't remember you being like.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Have you been canceled before on the platform on BuzzFeed?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Not?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
On BuzzFeed depends.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, because I got for me, like, I was kind
of like canceled a few times for like jokes that
I made that I didn't realize were hurtful, and you know,
I was young when I made them.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
When I was talking. I was like twenty five, twenty.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Six, and so it is again something that I'm not
proud of, but it has made for a great story.
I think that when you that's it goes. This is
by the way, this is why when people go, oh,
you're an.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Angel, I hate that.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Like I like I like the idea more of like saints, right,
like when somebody wants to compliment you in terms of
how they feel around you about your spirit. I think
that saints are more relatable because a lot of saints
were terrible people before they chose to get better and
find their faith. And so so I'm not calling myself
a saint by any means.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
So you're a saint. So what you're saying is that
you're a saint.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
So what you're saying is you're a saint.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I feel like when you have gone through a lot
of stuff, you can look at the next person and
be like, I get it. It's okay to fall and
you know, be messy, but you know, get up, It's fine,
it's okay. Do you feel like there have been moments
where you have just been a messy person?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, I think there's been a couple of things when
I know when I feel out of like just not balanced,
I can definitely do that. There was like, I mean,
I don't even know if this is like super messy,
but like there was this one time that this guy
told me to smile, like and I had just come
off of like a red eye flight from Arizona to Miami,
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and I was like going to this event and I
was getting my badge and I was just so like distraught,
and he was like, you should smile more, or you
should try smiling, or you know, one of those things.
And I snapped at him and I was like, don't
tell me what to do with my face, like so serious,
and he like and and him and this other girl
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saw and they were both quiet like she's fucking rude. Yeah,
And I'm like, but isn't it. Isn't it him like
that was being rude, like what makes you feel comfortable
to be like you should smile? Let me see that
smile smile like I'm gonna fucking knock you out. He
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was young. He was probably i would say, like in
his mid twenties.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Also for context for people who are like listening, I
think that people often forget that that's something that women
have to deal with a lot as men telling them
to smile, as like men being like.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
You should smile more. You'd be pretty if you smiled more.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
And that's something I've heard from a lot of women
being like, you know, told what to do with their
face and their bodies. And so I feel like for
somebody being like, what's prop what's wrong with metiity smile?
Like for contexts, it just is like it's just weird
for guys to tell women like what to do.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But I feel like in terms of for me, like.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
In life, I feel like I'm messy every other day.
I feel like I am messy every other day, and
I have learned that is part of adulthood. Like I
don't know anybody who's an adult. It's all fake. By
the way, everything in life is like nobody's better than you,
nobody's smarter than you. There's some people who are more intelligent.
There's some people who can read a contract, like you
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know what I was thinking, I'm like, there are people
who know how to read really well. Yeah I am
not one of them. My comprehension of reading is like
where are the pictures and the words and where is
the audio?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Especially when I'm saying yes. When there's dialogue and game games,
I'm like skip skip skip, skip skip, and then I'm like, wait,
what's happening?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I literally like earlier you were talking about and this
is why I love with you. I love with you
is why I love you so much because the way
that your brain works is like so like you can
read like a program or you can read. The other
day we were talking about like a paper piece of
paper with writing on it, and you pulled it up
right away and you found the place that we needed
to get to the paper.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
And I was like, how did her brain do that?
Because mine does not do that.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I just I feel like I go into like this
quick fog and I just I can't get out of it.
But in saying that, I think that there different people
have different strengths, but it doesn't make anyone better, It
doesn't make anybody less than.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Shit? What the fuck was my.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Point that I'm perfect? Since you were just saying that,
I you didn't finish the sentence, and that is why
go ahead. I know you wanted to say it.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Don't be shy me choking on shares words.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
But yeah, I feel like what was what was I?
What was my point in.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Saying that, like, just say that I'm perfect.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
There are a lot of words.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
That's what You're being messy right now? Oh, I know
what I'm saying, That room messy right now.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Every adult that I know is messy as fuck. I
don't know any adult that has it together in any way.
And when you think that you do, the next person
has it more together, and then you have it more
together than they do in one department. So I kind
of just feel like, you know what, the whole human
race is messy, and we all probably smell like butthole.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
So and I'm literally a messy person. Like if I
were to turn the camera, my house is messy, my
room is messy. If you saw my Instagram and TikTok
where I do like a little cleaning video, it's back
to where it was in that cleaning video a little
bit worse. So, and I don't like when people are like,
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your house or your room is the state of your mind.
I'm like, yeah, but how come I'm still hustling and
making all these deals happen, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah, I do believe I actually am one of those people,
but I'm I think mine is linked to more like
my OCD. I think mine is more linked to like rituals.
I can feel my mind and my spirit changing if
my house isn't clean, like I can feel the difference
in my energy.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
But that's not everybody. That's not you. Like You're right,
you are hustling, you are making shit happen, you are
doing the thing.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
But I do. I do feel better when I clean,
and it's because it just is when I clean, then
I can't find anything.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah, I mean, look, I Oprah said that everything has
a home, everything has a place in the house, like
before open was problematic, but like I feel like for me,
I just said it out loud yesterday over dinner, I
said about I think, you know, part of the things
with OCD is that you have rituals and superstitions behind
those rituals. And part of what I believe is like
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a ritual or a superstition, is that if I don't
keep my apartment clean, I'm going to somehow become depressed,
and I'm somehow going to become an alcoholic again and
get back into using, and just everything is going to
go downhill. And it's like it's okay for there to
be socks on the floor.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
You know what I mean. In my head, I'm like, no,
you won't. You will not find socks on the floor
for more than one day.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Oh socks on the floor. That you said, sauce on.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
The floor, Oh, sauce on the floor. It's fine, Like you.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Know, listen what socks aren't on the floor. You know
what I'm saying. Welcome to the zodiac section. Which sign
has the most messy? Regrets?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Which sign is?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I would say, like, which sign is the most messiest?
Which which is the most messiest sign? I think cancers
and Geminis are up there a little bit. I've been
like libras. I've lived with a Libra before. To libras,
they're not physically messy, but emotionally very messy, with zero
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disregard to or they only care about the ones I've experienced.
They only care about saving face for people and like
kind of being a little fake and then behind closed
doors they'll they'll say what they really mean, libras. Libras.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah, I feel like for me, the messy sign. It's
weird because I feel like everyone I can think of
a lot of people who are messy, but for me,
I feel like the messiest signs would be It's different
because I feel like fire signs can be reckless. I
don't think that they're messy. I think that air scigence
can be ambivalent, or they can be kind of like
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they don't really care as much. But I don't know
that that makes them messy. Water science can get emotional.
But what's to say that emotions are messy?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Scor Fields are messy.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I mean that's what I wrote.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I wrote, Oh I see, I see.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, yeah, I wrote scoros.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Are messy and Taurus Taurus are messy.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
What I feel like.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
About scorpios are that they'll do something that they will
just kind of like ruminate on later.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
So they'll do something and be like, oh my god,
I can't believe I said that. Oh my god, I
can't believe it did that.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
And I feel like Virgos are like that, and Sagittarius
are like that too.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Well.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
They'll kind of like relive a lot of moments in
their head, like, oh my god, I can't believe I
did that.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
But Sagittarius, I feel like, don't give a fuck that
they did that. I feel like they don't really take
it seriously. I think they're like, oh my god, that happened. Yeah.
I feel like Capricorns can be messy, but then deny
it later on, deny it and learn quickly from that mistake.
(37:52):
Like you will catch them messy once in a while,
but they will tighten up that freaking ship real so well,
like quickly, because they don't ever want to appear, you know,
like they like I I think like the Capricorns that
I have been around, it has been hard to get
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emotion out of them because they're so obsessed with their
position in life and work, you know. So I feel
like with that comes to a certain level of like
an in house pr mentality.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
It's so funny because I just met this Capricorn in
Vegas and she was telling me that people have been
telling her that Capricorns are kind of ruthless in their delivery,
and she's like, it's made me extremely paranoid and how
I deliver a lot of stuff because I'm worried that
when I think I'm being gentle and I think I'm
being direct and gentle, I'm.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Just I'm not.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
And I'm like, you're probably I was like, you're probably not, Like, yeah,
you guys are known for being like kind of ruthless
in your delivery. But I don't know, I think in
different ways. I do feel like if I had to vote,
who were my who was the element that was the messiest? Mmm,
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I'd give it to the water signs.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Probably I give to the water signs. I think I'm
gonna say aries.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I was gonna say the reckless fire signs.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
We're just trying to keep it fun.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Oh my god, reckless. I think the Earth signs are
two up their own, buttholes to fucking ruin anything.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
We're ruining it for ourselves. We're not reading for anybody else.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
They're ruining it by doing nothing about it. We're just
like whatever, and then concludes the astrology portion of the podcast, Well, maya,
here we are against how do you please? I kind
of wish that I was messier in my younger years,
you know, I wish that I had. I'm sure there
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was there is a lot I can like think of,
But I have this thing where I am really really
harsh on myself that I don't think I would have
ever let myself get too messy because I always really
cared about what my parents thought of me. Yeah, so
I never crossed that line ever, you know, I was, Yeah,
(40:28):
I was. It was a little goody two shoes like
type of thing, and I kind of I think the
only time that I really acted out was like when
I was nineteen, and that was it. After that, Like,
you know, I've always had enough money, more than enough
money in the bank. I've never asked my parents for
anything like that, Like I've always given to them, And
(40:51):
so I'm like, I feel like I care too much
about that part, you know, And I think that I
wish I was a little bit more messy because my
parents were messy as fuck, as as children and as
teenagers and as especially as adults, and they have all
these stories, and I do feel like I have some stories,
(41:12):
but you know, I think, like, yeah, I feel like
I could be a little bit messier.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yeah, I do feel like, you know, taking into an
account that you are a woman and then Latina, like
there's a lot of expectations on women to act a
certain type of way, right, you guys aren't necessarily given
the same space to get messy. One of the things
that my dad used to tell me my twenties was like,
sleep with as many people as you want, be safe,
be careful, but you know, have fun. I'm not sure
(41:37):
that that's advice that a lot of people want to
give their daughters, you know, but I think that if
I were to have children now, I would be like,
please be safe, Please be aware of your surroundings. As
much as you can get messy, have you know, sleep
with as many people who want to sleep with, wear protection,
Try not to drink, have fun the outfits that you
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want to wear. You know, I have worn so many ugly,
questionable outfits, but there is not a single regret in
me now now that I dress super simple, I'm like, yeah,
I've worn it all.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Like there's nothing that I have not worn, you know,
there's nothing that I have not There's no sort of
human that I have not kissed and enjoyed. So I
think that the other thing, too, is that it's never
too late.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I'm also gonna get let's get out.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
I'm like in the new renaissance of Yeah, I'm in
the renaissance of who I am as a human, and
I think it's never too late. So if you're listening
or for you maya too, like, it's never too late
to be a slide.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
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of the Super Secret Bestie Clip podcast Curly. How can
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