November 12, 2025 • 48 mins
This week, Curly and Maya dive into the drama, glitter, and chaos of pop culture’s favorite debate: is cancel culture real? Joining them is none other than pop culture internet commentator Adam The Flop (aka Adam Barrera), known for his hilarious takes and unapologetically spicy opinions on the music industry’s biggest stars.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
People go so far beyond the music to the point
where it's like genuinely hateful music is meant to be
like critiqued, it's all you know.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
People are like, oh my god, you're soul old, put
your boobs away, And I'm like, it wasn't okay for
her to show her boobs, which is twenty five. It's
not okay for her to show her boobs. Associate, When
was it okay for her to just be herself?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Oh never?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Oh my gosh, Azalia Banks, like Loki tried dragging me
on Twitter ones.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Shut up it was.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
He's still winning in a lot of ways. So like,
who really is is cancel culture even real?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Is this my public apology? I'm not apologizing for it.
My name is Curly and I'maya. The Super Secret Bestie
called Podcast. Season four is here and we're locked in.
That means more juicy cheese.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Man, terrible love advice.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Evil spels, decast on your ex.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah we're not doing that this season.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Oh well, this season we're leveling up.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Each episode will feature a special bestie and you're not
gonna want to miss it.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So what are you waiting for?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Kidding?
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Here?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Welcome to another episode of the Super Second Bestie the podcast.
I know you see a new bestie here. We're gonna
get into it. Before we get into that, how's your
spirit doing?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
My spirit is really good.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I am like my my vibration right now is I'm
like tired, but I'm like good tired. You know when
like you have a really good, productive day and then
you crawl into bed and you're tired and you're like, oh,
but that day was so good, and you like, that's
like my life right now, Like I'm just doing so much.
But when I go to bed and like, you know
what diva life will live. I just bought myself a
new king size bed. I sleep like a baby. Oh
(01:33):
I fucking like spread out, like if you can when
you get in there in life, get yourself a good bed.
I just couldn't afford a good bed for so long,
and finally I like could and then I was like,
I'm gonna treat myself to it. And then I got
this like beautiful bed. So my spirit is good. I
would say, how's your spirit doing good?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I would like to try your king size bed. I
slept in your other bed before it was.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Comfyte Oh my god, you're gonna love this new.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Bed so much more excited.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
So everyone everyone's welcome.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, my spirit's good. I feel like, yeah, it's a
busy time, I feel like for everyone and just very
chaotic in the world. And it's like, how do I
stay sane and like not cut a bitch, not like
physically or literally, but just like spiritually, you know, because
I'm just like I just don't like when people mess
(02:23):
with people that I love.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Oh yeah, lot's going on, you know's going going one.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
She gets very protective of people.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I really do, like like she's.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
One of those strategy yes, very much.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Like like do not fuck with anybody that I love.
I don't give a shit, Like you know, you do
not exist to me if you fucked with somebody that
I love, Like that's it. Because I also think that
that's kind of rare these days, Like I think a
lot more people and I'm one of these people that
I'm like, well, okay, like maybe you were still kind
to me.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It's a little bit more nuanced, but I appreciate.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Culturally, like like my people in my life were like
they hurt your feelings, fuck them, they're dead.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
They're dead to me.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Why would I be nice to you? After you heard
somebody that I love, Like, don't be nice to me
when you know that I'm that's either my sibling or
that's my cousin, or that's my mom or my best friend. Like,
why would you think that we would be cool after that?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I love that vibes.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Why would you think?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, why would you think? Wait, how's your spirit?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
My spirit's good. I love this time of year. I
feel like the energy is just different. The air feels Chris. Yeah,
it's just a vibe leaves. I am like, especially I
mean October like fall, like I love that.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Not. I don't love winter too much because I don't
like when it gets too cold, but like summer lading,
it's a fall. I just love the energy.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
But you're from Chicago, like our LA winter is like
nothing compared to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I do get over it sometimes though, especially when it
gets into low fifties. I'm like, Okay, I didn't move
to La for like this.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
But they were like beanie glows.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like mid sixties type of person. High sixties.
Like that's like the perfect weather for me. But I
was so over the Chicago weather, so I had to
get out of there.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I always tell people that if you were to buy
me at like a pet coot and I was like
a little hamster in a tank, Like my tank needs
to be at like a fifty to.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Like a sixty six. Yeah yeah no lower, no higher.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
That's perfect though.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, Like I just feel like I take it comfortable
so delicious.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
You could take a nap in that.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I like a Crisp sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Okay, yeah, she is just straight up.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
That's what I put on my air conditioning so good.
It just knows what it's doing.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I'm not there yet, essentially, see I don't have I'm
not in centrally see life yet, but soon.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
You just have a little in the wall. What are
your best The updates, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
The updates.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Okay, so I am currently I got cast as the
lead of this short indie film rom call Amazing. Do
you trust me?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah? Yeah? Do you trust you?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah? Okay, Well it depends. And it's really cool because
the writer and director she was wanting to cast somebody
who was like plus size, like we never see a
plus size person in like a rom com role, who's
not like it's not all about her identity. And her weight,
(05:30):
like you loved me despite me having you know, Nona
has or like I'm so glad that I'm beautiful now
that I took my glasses off, you know, like just
straight up she's like not insecure about herself, like she's
just having some difficulties with love. And then we get
to see that romanticize.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I think, like a guy with like a little love
handle is so fucking sexy, Like I love it. I
just had another friend. She was telling me that. She's like, yeah,
i'll let a I'll love that fucking my stick on.
But okay, I love that ship.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, I mean I want that out.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Does she want that out?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, yeah, I mean maybe I don't know, ship. I'll
ask her.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, she said it like I don't know if we're rolling. No,
I think we're rolling.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
No, it's fine, but I'm super excited about that. And
I shoot it this weekend and I have like a
fitting after this, so it's like I'm excited. I just
like it's one of those things where like you know
how we're super especially in like Hollywood, we're self conscious
about like angles and our double chin or our arms
or whatever. And so I'm going to have my hair
(06:49):
pulled back, and like, I think a part of me
is like you're doing You're an actor, right, You're doing
this as the character. Like it's not your body anymore.
It's like the character body. So like, how would she
feel about her body in this way? Like maybe I
don't like my hair up a little bit because I
have a little I have a little technic and a
little hump in the back. But like now the hump
(07:11):
in the back is to be shown in a romantic way.
So who the fuck cares? So done? I love that
I'm like this a little done?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Oh my god, that's so real. Shoulders?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I know, I know, I know, but who cares? Like
I still deserve to be seen no matter what? You
know what I'm saying, shit, mine is Curly best You.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Don't even no, I forgot. I was like, wait, I
haven't gone, but uh.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Welcome to Curly's Bestie.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I'm saying, yeah, I mean for me a lots, super busy,
super all over. But my crash course PBS show is
coming out next week, so on the twenty fourth of October,
And I basically just discussed Latino literature, which is pretty dope.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I'm kind of like a fun.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Professor, where we talk about different books that prolific writers
worked on that really conte need a resonate and still
kind of push the needle forward in culture today.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited. Check it out, y'all. All right, okay,
So a little intro for you.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Better known online as Adam the Flop, is the Chicago
born content creator and pop culture commentator known for his
sharp takes on music, celbody, drama, and the ever changing
internet landscape. With over a million followers across platforms, Adam's
Flop or Not series and chart breakdowns have made him
one of gen Z's go to voice the spirit for smart,
funny and unfiltered pop commentary.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
And we're like podcast siblings because new podcasts.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Talk about them.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yes, yes, thank you for that intro. That was so sweet.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I mean, Maya wrote it all Feathered Plume in the
in the night.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, under the moon.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
It's hard to type it out because I was writing
it down.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah. How are you doing, bestie? How's everything with you?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I'm good, I'm good. I just moved to a new
apartment recently, which is so exciting. Living in the same
place for about two years in La so it just
recently moved to a new area and just trying to
get used to it. But yeah, it's a good vibe.
I love it so far.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Amazing. You know, we should do side but we should
guess Adam's sign. Do you know it already?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay, so we don't know You're sign yet, but at
the end of it, we have like the zodiac section. Okay,
can I just ask one question while I think about it?
I just want to know, tell me about your closet.
Is it color corded? Is it organized? Is it messy?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
It is color coordinated, but that's because my boyfriend's like
super color coordinated, so he organized.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
It all for me.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Normally it probably wouldn't be. Okay, it is color coordinating.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
When you're arguing with your boyfriend? Who who do you?
Who gets emotional? Who gets loud?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I feel like I'm more of like a sensitive emotional
type of person.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Got it? Okay, we'll be asking more questions about your podcast. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
So I recently started a podcast. It's called the BAP Bible,
and I do a lot of deep dives on pop girls.
I've always loved the music industry, everything about it, and
so I I wanted to start a podcast that is
more so a space for me to do these deep
tives instead of just kind of like fitting everything I
(10:09):
can in like a minute long TikTok or Instagram reel,
you know. Yeah, so kind of just having that space
where I could sit there and yap about the pop girls.
But yeah, I talk about the music industry. I talk
about album rollouts, everything about the rollout, from the marketing
to the singles promotion, big pop culture moments that surrounded
the eras. And I also do interviews with artists and songwriters.
(10:30):
So yeah, if you guys like music, definitely check it out.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Oh I love that. Who is like your pop girly Like,
Who's like You're number one?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Oh my gosh, gonna be like a bore. Always so
gagged when I say that, But like, I've always loved her,
stand her so hard. She's a great performer, great writer,
great vocalist. She has it all.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Do you take it personally when people are critical or
like talk shit about Camilla, Like, do you have like
a little bit of a para social.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Relationship with it?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I feel like I just think she gets a lot
of hate online, and I feel bad because I remember
when she was starting her c xox o rollout. People
were like, oh, this, this is her copying Charlie XCX,
when in reality, the album was not Charlie XCX at all.
It was not hyper Pops. So there was a lot
of controversy surrounding that when really there was like no
(11:18):
issue with it at all.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Was it the song where she's like I love it eleven?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, Yeah, it was that song that kind of started
it all. And then I feel like the hate kind
of led into that era and kind of like ruined
her rollout, which I felt bad about. But I just
love her music. I love that she's just like a
Latino pop girl.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, and you fight somebody over having like some hate
over Carila, I'll argue because like the bars get really upset,
like super like how I get protective of Selena and
I do get protective of Beyonce.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Okay, yeah, okay, okay, I love Sinagomez too, but.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Fine, she's okay.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
You know. Well, speaking of celebrity cheese, man, we have
this segment called celebri chiesse May where you want to
talk about Taylor Swift in this episode and the life
of a show girl and that rollout. There's been so much,
and maybe we're like on the tail end of like,
well no, because she's like coming out like a new
movie too, right, and she's I'm very curious to know,
(12:21):
like what your opinion on the rollout of Life of
a Showgirl and the album itself.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Are you Swifty?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I do like Taylor Swift a lot. I feel like
I don't really identify as a full on Swifty because
I feel like Swifties are just like so invested in
everything she.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Does and that ruins it sometimes.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, so I And there are a lot of
albums by her that I don't really like. There are
a lot that I do like. So with her, it's
always like I approach her music with a very like
I like her vibe, but I'm not like super super
into her to the point where I need to like
defend anything that like, I don't know, Like, I do
appreciate her and I love her songwriting. I think she's
(13:04):
an excellent pop artist, but this album is definitely interesting
for me.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, how did you feel about the rollout? Like the
you know, the pictures and the aesthetics.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I think so. I love the visuals that she was
teasing with the album, like this whole showgirl vibe. I
thought it was so interesting, and obviously she just came
off of a massive tour, the biggest tour in history,
and so I think that it was just a good
way to show that with her visuals. But then the
album comes out and it's not really showgirl vibes at all,
(13:40):
And I was hoping for more of those types of lyrics,
Like I was hoping that there would maybe be some
songs on there about like her finishing a show and
then maybe like finding Travis afterwards and how like good
that feels, you know, kind of like incorporating more more
of the show aspect into the lyrics I think would
have been really cool. I think my main issue with
the album is that a lot of it was just
(14:02):
based off the same thing, which was her having all
these failed relationships and then finding a new love that's
gonna last forever. There's like six songs on the album
that's about that same exact topic, which is half the album.
Where I feel like there's other albums by her, there's
that have more of a variety with her songwriting, like
folklore for example.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
That what it was. It it was just like kind
of monotonous after a certain point.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Like because when people are like these lyrics just aren't
as good as they usually are as I mean, I
might get shipped for this, but I feel like they've
always kind of been in the same sort of realm
of lyricism.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, like I've never it's so sidebar.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I like, we'll like look at people's micro expressions when
I say things sometimes. So right when I said that this,
I went up to so I'm like, no, it's like
nobody knows when.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
They're doing it. But I like I will always just
study those little things.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, but like, yeah, I just so it's a it's
a thing that I'm like, kind of I'm surprised that
people are surprised, if that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And then yeah, I kind of act. I heard some
of the.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Album while driving and I didn't know it was her,
and I was like, oh, who is this? It's kind
of it's good. Who's Aphelia? Who's singing about Ophelia?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
This is pretty good?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I see that song is very good. I think it
is one of her best songs that she's ever heard
before she started the era. She said in Travis Kelsey's
podcast New Heights that when she was working on the
Life of a Showgirl with Max Martin and Shellback who
this is. This is her first time working with them
(15:30):
since Reputation, which was in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So she said on that podcast that when reuniting with
these producers, they wanted her to have the storytelling aspect
of folklore and evermore, but the pop vibes of like
nineteen eighty nine Reputation, and I feel like that song,
the Life of Aphelia is exactly what that is. It's
like that type of song lyrically could fit well on folklore,
(15:56):
but the pop vibes of it are just out of
this world. And I think it's one of her best.
But then the rest of the album is kind of
just like.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
It's a little flat, feels like yeah, very recycled and repetitive,
(16:25):
and yeah, I just I don't And I know there's
a lot of discourse too around like that she's just
this white girl that like, especially when she saying like
I'm not a bad bitch, I'm not a savage, Like
what do you think about the discourse around that.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I think some of her lyrics can just be like
very corny.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Like yeah, are they just like throw away?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Actually romantic the song that she's shading Charlie XCX.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Do you think it really is shading Charlie?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Absolutely, But like it's supposedly a response to charlie song
Sympathy is a Knife, which I don't know if you
guys have heard that song, but that song really isn't
a dis track at all. She's basically the song is
supposedly about Taylor, and she's sang the song that she
feels insecure around this very successful woman. And people assume
(17:17):
that song is about Taylor because Charlie says in the song,
I hope I don't want to see you backstage at
my boyfriend's show. And Charlie's man is George Daniel, who's
in the nineteen seventy five with Mattie Healy, who is
dating Taylor Swift, So that lyric just had to have
been about Taylor.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah, and Charlie opened up for Taylor.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Yeah, they spent a lot of interesting like time together.
But I yeah, I think I just it's interesting to
see just the contrast of like the fans as well
some of the diehard fans even being not satisfied Yeah
with this.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, I've seen a lot of fans kind of disappointed
by it, which is sad, but also like a lot
of fans are super super passionate about it, and like
she just got her biggest debut ever, which like is
also a bit of like that's a little bit controversial
because it's like every time she tries to get these
big debuts. She I mean, she released thirty eight different
versions of this album to get a big debut, and
(18:18):
like sales are always like her number one thing. It's
thirty eight thirty eight different versions of the album.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
What does that mean? Thirty eight different versions?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I know that it like I saw some things that
people were saying, like it included this and included that,
But like, how do you do thirty eight variations?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So she had like multiple different vinyl variants with different covers,
which is like a normal thing for artists to do
on their website. But then she also went and uploaded
different versions onto iTunes, Like some of them had like
voice memos of recording sessions of when she was making
the music and stuff like that. So she found different ways,
(18:53):
which I guess it's very smart, Like it's a very
like calculated move, like you have to. I'm sure she
has meeting of how to make each release, like each
variant different, because it's like crazy because yeah, thirty eight
different versions, Like how do you even do that? But yeah,
it's just like adding something different to each variant I
guess each version of the album.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah that's so interesting, Yeah, because I feel like with
people talking now, I've heard people who have never been
fans who are like, actually, this album made me a fan.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
It's not the same.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
But I remember with Kanye, like people were problem out
at Kanye, but you know a lot of people were fans,
diehard fans for a long time until he released like
the Donda album or the one right before that one,
But like people just dip and then he got like
different fans. So I wonder if that's just a normal
thing that happens with yeah superstars, you know. Yeah, yeah,
(19:46):
I feel like when they're just at that level, it's
like you already have a massive fan base that's going
to support you no matter what, so you could make
us switch up. But like sometimes it is very surprising
and it's not what people are expecting.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yeah, what would you give like her rollout for marketing? Like,
I don't know, do you think it's like up there
with like Beyonce, right, like, because she's one of the
greats as well, like Taylor's one of the greats. She's
an amazing lyricist, and I think she's so calculated, yeah,
and very smart that like, even if this album is
(20:22):
going to be a flop or whatever, I'm going to
make so much money.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, exactly, Like the marketing was there. She announced the
album two months before releasing it on New Heights with
Travis Kelcey, which was the best way to start the
era because it was like her first time being on
that podcast. Really the first time that we've seen Travis
and Taylor talk to each other, right, because beforehand, it's
just been like them talking about each other or we've
(20:46):
seen like paparazzi photos, but this is our first time
really seeing them interact. And so starting the era, I mean,
she was bound to have a big era after doing that,
Like people are obsessed with them as a couple. And
then they got engaged right after that. That engagement alone,
that was great promo for the album two and yeah,
so the album not saying that the engagement was like
(21:07):
just happened because she was in an album rollout, but
it helped for sure sailor SPT you never know. Yeah,
but I think with the album, a large part of
it being about Travis Calse like those two things happening
before their before the album came out. In general, we're
just like great promo tactics for the album and there's like.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
A song about his pepe on it.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
But she said it's like large or.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
What many different descriptions, different.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Ways, right, yep, yep. She The song is called Wood
and it's very Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Yeah, that's a lot of the things I've been hearing
as well, is like and Sabrina's on Life of a
show Girl as well. She's on that song and it
feels like she was like I kind of want to
do what Sabrina is doing right now and not saying
like nobody can do that or like Sabrina originated it,
but it is very Sabrina coded.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, no, it is for sure, like you can tell
that there was some influence there. It's weird hearing that
type of song from Taylor from Sabrina would have made
sense because we're used to that from her, but Taylor
was like completely different.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, clutching so upset by it though, because I know
we were like we get it, and I'm like, well,
I mean that's your girl. Like again, like as a
fan of Beyonce, right, Beyonce could release this song talking
about Dick all night long and I would be like, Yeah,
whatever Beyonce wants to do, Beyonce can do it.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I don't give a book.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Like, but why do you think so many fans were
just like like clutching their pearls like they are they
Is that too much for them?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
You think?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I feel like maybe not the fans, like the diehard Swifties,
like they're like, oh my gosh, like the giggling Travis
Casey's pep like this.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, But like I feel like it's more so like
the haters are going to be like because Taylor has
like harsh haters, and I honestly feel like this album
Rollout like has been the most amount of hate that
she's received from her haters since like her twenty sixteen
hate train, which is I don't say, really sad, but yeah,
I feel like I've just seen so many new hate
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comments like every single day surrounding her, and it just
goes and it goes beyond the music. You know, it's
one thing to not like the music, but like I've
seen posts attacking like her appearance, attacking like her engagement. Yeah,
like just yeah, just people go so far beyond the
music to the point where it's like genuinely hateful. Music
is meant to be like critiqued art. It's art, you know,
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but people just take it way too far.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Do you think women get it worse? Like I feel
like I you look at like Jayla right now getting dragged. Yeah,
Nikki Cardi, like all these women are just kidding. There's
just so much like anger and hate towards them and
trying to think like if jay Z posts something or
like what other big male I mean, there's a lot
of big ones, but like maybe Drake gets a lot
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of hate.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, no, exactly, Like people cancel. People are obsessed with
canceling women on like female celebrities, Like it happens all
the time, but they do not have that same energy
towards male celebrities.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, that's been my thing too, where like I had
a really good friend she was like Teddy Sinclair now,
but she used to go by Natalia Kills back in
the day, and she went super viral. She was like
up and coming, like working with some of the best
people at her label at the time.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
She's an expector, she was an X factor.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, and they had asked her to be kind of
like the Simon Cowell of the time and be kind
of like mean, and she was mean and it like
ruined in this in this thing, she was mean, right,
and it ruined her career and it like, you know,
she has been behind the scenes. She's writing songs from
Madonna for what are they call black black pink, a
(24:44):
black pink black pink, like a lot of She's a
big singer songwriter, right, But I'm always I get very
protective of her too, because like even when she posts
any little thing, people will be like, you were so mean.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I'm the X Factor, and I'm like, you guys.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
From a while ago, Yeah, that's over.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Executor Simon coll It's like he still has his career
and he became popular based off of like being a
mean judge on American Idol. So it's like, yeah, it's
kind of insane how they have that energy towards a woman.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Yeah, man, Yeah, I mean I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
She's a woman of color, right, So it's kind of like, yeah, yeah,
the world like, well they want to, like you said, cancel.
But even just like the way that somebody as prolific
as Madonna, right like Madonna.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
People are like, oh my god, you're so old. Put
your boobs away.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And I'm like, it wasn't okay for her to show
her boobs when she was twenty five. It's not okay
for her to show her boobs. When was it okay
for her to just be herself?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Oh? Never?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, So I feel like, you know, but then you
see somebody like like even like the Bar and I
mean there's video of her yelling at somebody on stage
and people would just be like it's fine.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
At some point, I feel like you have to take
into consideration the fact that like Nikki has fought with
like so many of the other rap girls everybody. Every though,
it's like it gets to point where it's like, Okay,
when is this gonna end? There's just like so much
like arguing, Like it's just it's a lot for sure.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I feel like recently there's been like so much on
the internet that's been Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I mean you look at like an Azalea Banks too,
and Azalea has been really open about how I think
she's like, I have the same diagnosis as Kanye, but
I have not had the same sort of success or
the same sort of like h and they're not the same, right,
But I'm just saying like Azalea is brilliant in her
own way as well, but just the way that she's like,
I'm dragged more and canceled more when I have.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
The same mental condition that Kanye has.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So it just gets really interesting because I'm like, you know,
what is the dynamic, what is like the way that
we treat different artists.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Oh my gosh, Azalea Banks, like Loki tried dragging me
on Twitter ones shut up?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
It was she.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I literally didn't post anything bad. I posted like a
review of Lady Gaga's album and I was like, she
should make this the next single whatever, And then Azalea
quoted it and was like, why is he telling her
what she needs to do? She called me a gay
MAGATCHI what is that?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, I'm so dead, but it felt like he felt
like a badge of it. I was like, in Daily
Banks is dragging me on the.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Oh yeah, for sure. A game of Gotchachi that's so good.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
He came out recently about her. There wasn't too it
comes on this wild and this one was like this
one was like I'm like, I don't funk with her.
I mean I never really did, but after that I.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Was like, it's just too too much.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yea, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And that's the thing too though, Like there's some people that, yes,
we should be But then you look at somebody like
Mark Wahlberg. Right, we were talking about this earlier where
it was like Mark Wahlberg has had a history of
beating someone so badly it was a race crime that
they lost their eyeball, and we Mark Wahlberg is living
his best life, do you know what I mean? Like,
you look at somebody like Chris Brown who's selling out stadiums,
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and we know we've seen his work on a pop icon,
and so you kind of start to go, like, what
what is real? But then you have somebody in the
current administration who like has literally like so many things
that have been I guess seen, do you know what
I mean exactly, like in the in the court of law,
(28:18):
And so then you're like, but yet he's still winning
in a lot of ways, So like, who really is
is cancel culture even real?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Right?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I feel like the older I've gotten, Like I feel
like I was at the beginning of cancel culture and
now I'm like, I don't think it's real, guys.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, it's just like it's interesting because it's a lot
different from what it was like back in the day.
Like back in the day, I feel like it was
just like very press heavy, Like TikTok wasn't as pop,
TikTok wasn't didn't exist, you know, until like twenty eighteen,
I want to say, And so now it's like anybody
(28:54):
can go on TikTok and like talk about a celebrity
and have it go viral, which is I feel like
that's what what's the makes cancel culture different now, is
that like anybody can say anything about a celebrity and
havco viral. Whereas like before it was just very like, yeah,
press heavy have been canceled? Yet have they been canceled?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I did that thing again.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
No, I'm very like positive with my content. I feel
like I'm not I'm never like hateful. There was time
a time when the Britney the Britney Spears fans got
mad at me because I was on a podcast and
I said that for like people who grew up like
(29:37):
when I did, Like for my generation, I was born
in two thousand and so I remember saying on the podcast,
I was like, for my generation, like Jamie Lynn Spears
was my introduction to Britney Spears because Jamie Spears was
on Zoe went yeah yeah, and I was like that
song when that show came out, and so I found
(29:59):
out about Jamie before where I found out about Brittany.
And so that's what I was trying to say on
the podcast. And the Britney Spears fans did not like that.
I mean the history with them too, I'm sure, but yeah, yeah,
I get it that her fans are very protective over Brittany,
which makes sense. I feel like Brittany, you know, she
needs that protective energy from her fandom.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
What do you think about the poop scandal the recent
It's like there's like a lot of her video she
has like dog poop all over the floor and I
have not seen a lot of people are Britney fans
were like is she going to bring the pick the
poop up?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Or yeah? So like there's like photos of her.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
People were just talking about that's so interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I've yeah, yeah, they were talking about about it on
the breakfast.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Like her dog.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, yeah, you're not thinking what it was.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
But have you been canceled before?
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Okay, like I feel like softly maybe twice. There was
one time with like the try guys, the whole Ned scandal.
As people who have had personal experiences working at a
company where these people were there and I know them personally,
(31:09):
have met them personally, I have not had a parasocial relationship.
I just shouldn't have never I should have never said
anything like at all. But when all that stuff happened
with the scandal, I tweeted very much not surprised for words,
that's it. But then like some of my former coworkers
(31:30):
commented underneath, like yeah, oh my god, saying because you know,
and this is not my story to tell because it
involves somebody else, But there was something that happened that
I like has always been in my memory and I
just don't like Ned for these certain reasons. Everybody has
a story basically about this person, how horrible he is
and weird, and so I just said very much not surprised,
(31:53):
and the people were like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
What you like?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
They were they were saying, like you should have told
Aril or Ari, like you should have told them, you
should have, But I'm like, I don't. I'm not responsible
for that. I'm like, I just know that in the past,
like this person used to be the head of the
interns and there was a lot of really problematic things
that went on allegedly or.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Somebody was there, Like I don't I didn't have that experience,
Like I didn't experience them in that way.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
I just always was like, because you're either I'm talking
about a lot of women who have had experiences that
have been very uncomfortable around him, and so that was
(32:47):
something that was very much known. And he's also just
like not really like a super cool guy to be around,
like sometimes like everybody else in the try guys would
like say hi to us and you know, be super
kind and I and he just was always like, I
don't know, very off And so that was my experience,
but I didn't really want to say that. I was
just like very much not surprised, being like silly, funny, cute, whatever.
(33:09):
And then it popped up on all these drama channels
and then I'm like I'm on all these like Reddit
things being like, yeah, well I saw you know, so
and so commented, and so and so commented. Maya commented,
and like these people are just like looking for their
fifteen seconds of fame again or looking for relevancy again,
and they wish they were Quinta, and Quinta didn't say anything.
(33:30):
I'm like, Quinta's a nay list star, like doesn't give
a fuck about these people. She's like doing her show.
I'm like, I'm on the internet all the time, so
like people were like in my dms and comments like
just hating on me for commenting on it when I'm like,
so I know these people in real life though, like, yeah,
I worked with them, I have experienced and like you're
(33:53):
mad at me because I didn't tell his wife, who
I'm like not close with. But it's also a thing.
It's like why am I inserting myself in a situation
that people got genuinely hurt? And like it wasn't my
place to be to add a little, like, you know, whatever,
fuel to the fire. You know, So I learned a
big lesson to just shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Anything, to be honest.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
I'm always like that, I said, very much, not surprised,
like that's it, you know, And but it was still
the fact that you know, like this situation was extremely
traumatic for a lot of people involved.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
So why would I, you know, add a little bit
of whatever knowing I have like the verified check mark,
knowing that I worked there, like and the fans I
know were very hurt about it. Is this my public apology?
I'm not apologizing four years Yeah kind of, but like
I'm still my tweet will still be there when they're
(34:51):
doing updates, and I'm like, I deleted it, and you know,
I think people, Yeah, just I just feel like I
should have never gotten involved in that because it's so
not me either, Like I don't ever want to add
more hurt to something that was so devastating and fucked up,
and like now, like what's even fucked up? Is I
keep seeing this full all over the internet again. So
(35:14):
it's like, does is cancel culture actually real? You know,
because he's like people are still booking him and stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
But it's I do think it's to write a passage though,
I think in this business to get canceled, Like I
do think that, like it's inevitable, and it sucks and
it's really painful and it does hurt, and it's hard
to like not internalize it and take it personally because
a lot of times people don't know the full story,
and so it sucks. It hurts because you know, you're
not used to getting like crazy comments or mean things.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Or docs or death threats or all these things.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
And like for me, for example, like when I got
canceled the first time, it was over like kind of
like insensitive jokes that I didn't wasn't aware we're going
to be that hurtful at the time, and they still
follow me around to this day, and it's like, oh,
I just didn't. I grew up in a different era
in the nineties and the two thousands, where like jokes
(36:07):
were a little bit, we were trollish, we were hard
with each other, and I was like I didn't feel
like I was punching down.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I felt like I was punching equals.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
And BuzzFeed at the time, like when was this twenty fifteen,
twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I think it was like twenty.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Twenty, like fourteen, this was a time when you know,
BuzzFeed culture was very much like you gotta say things
that are.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Like yeah, super PC, Like.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
I mean, will not it has to be PC, you know,
It's just like you have to say something that's interesting,
you know, and I yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Think at that time.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
So basically the long story short was they had done
a video of gay guys asked lesbians questions, and then
they did one where lesbians ask gay guys questions. Okay,
and I was just like, I don't I'm a troll.
Like I'm in natural troll. It's very Latino, like, if
you were to be like asking me a question, I'm
going to ask you like I always wanted to, like
if I ever met, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I've just asked them questions.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And so I asked a bunch of them questions and
they were like, that was great.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Can you do it again for this.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Bisexual video where gay guys asked bisexual people questions? And
so I was like, yeah, I'll just ask super questions.
But I didn't realize that the stupid questions were actually
questions that people get a lot when they're met with
biphobia or the erasure of bisexuality. So I didn't realize
that they were like questions that they get all the time.
And so when it came out and people were super
(37:26):
upset with it, like he's bipobic, And then I was like, Oh,
I'm actually not like I actually like, I'm super I
don't have an opinion on what you're if it's too
consenting adults, you could be taking dumps on each other
and I'd be like, work it out. I don't give
a shit it like what live your best life, diva.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
But like at the.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Time, I wasn't allowed to talk about it, Like we
weren't allowed to address issues online because you worked just
as a company. Yeah, Like I mean we were early
buzz feed days. We were like there.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Were no such thing as influencers.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
And I remember being with me Quinta like and other
producers there, and we were like, I.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Guess they're calling us influencers now, Like what the fuck
is that?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
And so it didn't exist, and so when things would
happen on the internet, it was protocol to just ignore it,
that it would blow over, and it didn't blow over,
and it was a whole big thing, like other outlets
were picking me up and using my face as like
the erasure of bisexuality and da da, And it's this
interesting thing because in person, I'm truly just I think
one of the most accepting people, Like I really want
(38:24):
to hear you out.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I want to hear what you're about. I'm gonna play
with you.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I'm gonna like tease you a little bit, because it's
very like ingrained that it's something that I learned with
my theas and my theos and to be a little playful,
but I never mean any harm by it, and so
that when that doesn't come across and suddenly you have
strangers who are telling you about your character, it does.
Oh my god, it was so hurtful. It was like
lost of shit, tond of followers. People still leave comments
(38:49):
on my shit about that, literally almost a decade later.
But I do feel like when I talk to other people.
I have a really good friend of mine who she's
another actress, and she.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Was saying, like, kind of give it a week, like
the next week is going to be you know, somebody
else would get canceled, and.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
She was She's been right ever since. It's always like
you have one week of heavy heat and then.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
You people kind of move on and yeah, people move
on this person. Yeah yeah, yeah. But it's frustrating though
that you can't that you at the time were able
to like go and address it.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
And yeah, yeah, I mean I think nowadays I kind
of just wear it a little bit where I'm like,
it is you don't let that stop you from creating
your art, Like, don't let that stop you from continuing
to be who you are anyways, because it's inevitable.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
And is there room for restorative justice? You know where
you have apologized about that so many different times on
different platforms.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
And I did make a few more jokes and they
didn't like that either.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Okay, well yeah I tried to know. But what I'm
saying is like mind but like restorative justice of like
if somebody is genuinely like apologetic about these certain things
and then they say the statement and then that's being critiqued,
is it that's genuine or not?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
You know?
Speaker 4 (40:08):
But when we ever get to a place.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Where it's kind of like damned if you do down,
if you don't, like, if you apologize, people are going
to critique your apology, critique the way you say it,
or like be like, oh, you didn't address this. It's
like it is kind of it is kind of tricky
because it's like, yeah, it's like they want you to apologize,
but then you do, and it's kind of it could
cause something deeper, Like yeah, I think it's scenario.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Yeah, when it's like parasocial relationships and stuff like that,
I'm like, that's like my situation. I'm like, that was weird.
That was a weird thing for them, for the fans
to like react in that way. But I understand, but
it wasn't cool for me to insert myself and add
more harm. But it's like it's just this weird thing
where it's like what for me.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I get it, Like I get it, but I'm just like,
you don't know the full story, Like when people are
you know, like as you as we all keep moving
forward and growing, like nobody knows the full story. And
even just the fact that they get tiny snippets of
you and they go like you're a terrible person. I'm like, oh,
and then there'll be somebody else that you actually do
know is a terrible person in real life, like.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
And they'll celebrate them and oh my god, my god.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
I knew Ellen.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I knew Ellen was crazy for years, Like so many people, yeah,
so many I knew that in the business would be like, oh,
hell no, she's wild she's wilding out. And then when
it came out, it was like, first of all, by
the way, somebody else who was in the industry too,
was like, I don't know why Ellen's gotten getting canceled
because all of them late night guys are like that too.
(41:39):
They're all like kind of douchey. So why is just
the woman getting dragged?
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:44):
And I mean you hear Kathy Griffin talking about that too,
like talking about how like Conan was addicted.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
To her.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Her then get it harsh?
Speaker 3 (41:53):
You know Kathy got canceled by Crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah yeah that wasn't like that was from the the
Trump thing, right, Yeah that was like after you first
got elected.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Yeah, Crazy. Welcome to the Zodiac section of the podcast. Okay,
I think you might be a Virgo Gemini.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Noy, Wait, don't say close, don't give me a hand?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
No wait wait wait you guess the last one.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Needn't let me like get my.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I feel like I'm like so my sign huh?
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Okay, wait, I do want to know. Like you said that, you.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Get kind of emotional. Now, are you get kind of
angry and like sensitive? You're sensitive? Do you cry or
do you get rowdy?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I don't really cry, no, just like my feelings are hurt.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
It's giving earth signed vibes.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
But are you a water or like, tell us what element?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Can I just tell you what? I am sure?
Speaker 4 (42:52):
I never guess. I was thinking, Yeah, I was gonna Virgo,
and then I was gonna say Capricorn. Then I was
gonna say Pisces.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, giving Earth sign for sure?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Really?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I mean, when's birthday in May? Okay? My mom?
Speaker 2 (43:09):
I'm like so rounded by tauruses, like my mom's toyists
one of my best friends, the toys one, my toyist.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Oh love that I love like other tourists. What do
you guys, Virgo? You're giving me?
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Did say that?
Speaker 1 (43:29):
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Yeah? Wow, amazing.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
I'm not even good at like.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Touris is shown me crazy like I as your Earth sibling.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
But yeah, I feel like if you have a lot
in your life.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
We're Earth siblings and I and we all maneuver the
same way. Like I just I trust y'all so much.
And it's more like like if you have like a
sibling that you love, and you're like, I want you
to go out on that dance floor and shake and
have so much fun.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
I hit on the gun, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Like I feel like I have that with a lot
of my touruses where I'm just like, come on, I
want you to like loosen up a little bit, have
a little bit of fun, like shake it up, you know,
like a little like goofy.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Girl energy is what I wish upon. Do you have
goofy girl energy?
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I feel like, yeah, I feel it a goofy girl.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
You know, all the pop divas like those are goofy
girls in themselves.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
What's he's a scorpio. He's a very scorpio energy.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yeah, he's very I feel like Scorpios are very like
how would you describe it? It's like I feel like
they're more like outgoing, like very like he's the type
of person that could like go up to anybody. He
can like talk to wall I feel like that's like.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
A very like more extroverted. Are you more introverted?
Speaker 1 (44:48):
I am a bit more introverted.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
You know you're rising in your.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Moon cancer rising and Leo.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Moon double water.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
No, that's you're maybe it's Leo Moon cancer rising. It's
one of those.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
So your earth water and fire I think so interesting?
Speaker 4 (45:06):
Yeah, pretty balanced?
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Are there any signs that you like don't get along
with or I feel like you always were like like
the low vibration ones.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
You know, low vibration ones.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
You can say, as you know, I beef with other
Earth signs a lot like other toys, Like I beef
with tors, that beef with Capricorns.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
I feel like maybe Capricorn, That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
Okay, home, We're actually not supposed to talk about caricor.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Bad reviews are about how hard we drag capricorns. Wait, really,
we've just thought.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
I mean, I've had bad experiences.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
I just feel like I don't have beef with a
lot of people, but the people I do have beef
with our capricorn.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Yeah, it's kind of like wild. I'm like, but Scorpios,
I love.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
I'm a verbal double scorpio, so I'm very big on
Scorpio energy. But I think my scorpio energy is what
makes me a little bit more like I'm chatty, but
then I want to go into like my little burrow. Yeah,
and like get like really deep and emotional about stuff.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
Also, we love Capricorns, by the way, I love.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
We're just joking God bless blessings.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
I mean, Dolly Parton's a Capricorn, so.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah, I mean that's if she's like the Queen of
the capricorns exactly.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
That's you know, which also I don't know, okay.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
And that concludes the zodiac portion of the podcast. Oh
my goodness, thank you so much for me. So tell
us where you can find like your podcast because it's
also with so and siblings.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
So the podcast is called the Bop Bible. It is
on any platform that you listen to podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Apple.
You can also find me on TikTok and Instagram at
Adam the Flop. That's where you'll find out my short
form content. And I also do long form, other long
form content and YouTube as well. So yeah, definitely give
(46:54):
it a view if you like pop music.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Yeah, give us so.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
Yeah, that's such a great concept and you were so
I was so like, I knew you're going to be
geeked out about what we were talking about and everything. Yeah,
I feel like we're gonna have to do we should
do another episode like deep Diving on like Selena Kathania.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Like Deep Dive. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
I mean, she's getting so much because they're releasing that
documentary on Netflix right now.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah, but I'm here for it. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
I saw it already.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
It's good. I feel like people need to call.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Because it has completely.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Okay, like, don't get me started.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
You could find me mine in the moment and made
my a in the moment anywhere you scroll what I
was gonna say that it has new footage and there's
like there's there's new interviews where you just see her
in like a different light. You're like, oh my god, isn't.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
There like video where they show her kind of tired?
Speaker 4 (47:48):
Yeah, I told you about that and I like that. Yeah,
it was like before the interview and she's like and
then when she has to be on, she's like, I'm
like relatable.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Relatable, No, truly.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
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Speaker 3 (48:11):
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Speaker 3 (48:33):
Or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
People go so far beyond the music to the point
where it's like genuinely hateful music is meant to be
like critiqued, it's all you know.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
People are like, oh my god, you're soul old, put
your boobs away, And I'm like, it wasn't okay for
her to show her boobs, which is twenty five. It's
not okay for her to show her boobs. Associate, When
was it okay for her to just be herself?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Oh never?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Oh my gosh, Azalia Banks, like Loki tried dragging me
on Twitter ones.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Shut up it was.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
He's still winning in a lot of ways. So like,
who really is is cancel culture even real?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Is this my public apology? I'm not apologizing for it.
My name is Curly and I'maya. The Super Secret Bestie
called Podcast. Season four is here and we're locked in.
That means more juicy cheese.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Man, terrible love advice.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Evil spels, decast on your ex.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah we're not doing that this season.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Oh well, this season we're leveling up.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Each episode will feature a special bestie and you're not
gonna want to miss it.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So what are you waiting for?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Kidding?
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Here?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Welcome to another episode of the Super Second Bestie the podcast.
I know you see a new bestie here. We're gonna
get into it. Before we get into that, how's your
spirit doing?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
My spirit is really good.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I am like my my vibration right now is I'm
like tired, but I'm like good tired. You know when
like you have a really good, productive day and then
you crawl into bed and you're tired and you're like, oh,
but that day was so good, and you like, that's
like my life right now, Like I'm just doing so much.
But when I go to bed and like, you know
what diva life will live. I just bought myself a
new king size bed. I sleep like a baby. Oh
(01:33):
I fucking like spread out, like if you can when
you get in there in life, get yourself a good bed.
I just couldn't afford a good bed for so long,
and finally I like could and then I was like,
I'm gonna treat myself to it. And then I got
this like beautiful bed. So my spirit is good. I
would say, how's your spirit doing good?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I would like to try your king size bed. I
slept in your other bed before it was.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Comfyte Oh my god, you're gonna love this new.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Bed so much more excited.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
So everyone everyone's welcome.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, my spirit's good. I feel like, yeah, it's a
busy time, I feel like for everyone and just very
chaotic in the world. And it's like, how do I
stay sane and like not cut a bitch, not like
physically or literally, but just like spiritually, you know, because
I'm just like I just don't like when people mess
(02:23):
with people that I love.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Oh yeah, lot's going on, you know's going going one.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
She gets very protective of people.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I really do, like like she's.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
One of those strategy yes, very much.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Like like do not fuck with anybody that I love.
I don't give a shit, Like you know, you do
not exist to me if you fucked with somebody that
I love, Like that's it. Because I also think that
that's kind of rare these days, Like I think a
lot more people and I'm one of these people that
I'm like, well, okay, like maybe you were still kind
to me.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It's a little bit more nuanced, but I appreciate.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Culturally, like like my people in my life were like
they hurt your feelings, fuck them, they're dead.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
They're dead to me.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Why would I be nice to you? After you heard
somebody that I love, Like, don't be nice to me
when you know that I'm that's either my sibling or
that's my cousin, or that's my mom or my best friend. Like,
why would you think that we would be cool after that?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I love that vibes.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Why would you think?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, why would you think? Wait, how's your spirit?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
My spirit's good. I love this time of year. I
feel like the energy is just different. The air feels Chris. Yeah,
it's just a vibe leaves. I am like, especially I
mean October like fall, like I love that.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Not. I don't love winter too much because I don't
like when it gets too cold, but like summer lading,
it's a fall. I just love the energy.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
But you're from Chicago, like our LA winter is like
nothing compared to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I do get over it sometimes though, especially when it
gets into low fifties. I'm like, Okay, I didn't move
to La for like this.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
But they were like beanie glows.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like mid sixties type of person. High sixties.
Like that's like the perfect weather for me. But I
was so over the Chicago weather, so I had to
get out of there.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I always tell people that if you were to buy
me at like a pet coot and I was like
a little hamster in a tank, Like my tank needs
to be at like a fifty to.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Like a sixty six. Yeah yeah no lower, no higher.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
That's perfect though.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, Like I just feel like I take it comfortable
so delicious.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
You could take a nap in that.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I like a Crisp sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Okay, yeah, she is just straight up.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
That's what I put on my air conditioning so good.
It just knows what it's doing.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I'm not there yet, essentially, see I don't have I'm
not in centrally see life yet, but soon.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
You just have a little in the wall. What are
your best The updates, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
The updates.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Okay, so I am currently I got cast as the
lead of this short indie film rom call Amazing. Do
you trust me?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah? Yeah? Do you trust you?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah? Okay, Well it depends. And it's really cool because
the writer and director she was wanting to cast somebody
who was like plus size, like we never see a
plus size person in like a rom com role, who's
not like it's not all about her identity. And her weight,
(05:30):
like you loved me despite me having you know, Nona
has or like I'm so glad that I'm beautiful now
that I took my glasses off, you know, like just
straight up she's like not insecure about herself, like she's
just having some difficulties with love. And then we get
to see that romanticize.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I think, like a guy with like a little love
handle is so fucking sexy, Like I love it. I
just had another friend. She was telling me that. She's like, yeah,
i'll let a I'll love that fucking my stick on.
But okay, I love that ship.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, I mean I want that out.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Does she want that out?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, yeah, I mean maybe I don't know, ship. I'll
ask her.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, she said it like I don't know if we're rolling. No,
I think we're rolling.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
No, it's fine, but I'm super excited about that. And
I shoot it this weekend and I have like a
fitting after this, so it's like I'm excited. I just
like it's one of those things where like you know
how we're super especially in like Hollywood, we're self conscious
about like angles and our double chin or our arms
or whatever. And so I'm going to have my hair
(06:49):
pulled back, and like, I think a part of me
is like you're doing You're an actor, right, You're doing
this as the character. Like it's not your body anymore.
It's like the character body. So like, how would she
feel about her body in this way? Like maybe I
don't like my hair up a little bit because I
have a little I have a little technic and a
little hump in the back. But like now the hump
(07:11):
in the back is to be shown in a romantic way.
So who the fuck cares? So done? I love that
I'm like this a little done?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Oh my god, that's so real. Shoulders?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I know, I know, I know, but who cares? Like
I still deserve to be seen no matter what? You
know what I'm saying, shit, mine is Curly best You.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Don't even no, I forgot. I was like, wait, I
haven't gone, but uh.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Welcome to Curly's Bestie.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I'm saying, yeah, I mean for me a lots, super busy,
super all over. But my crash course PBS show is
coming out next week, so on the twenty fourth of October,
And I basically just discussed Latino literature, which is pretty dope.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I'm kind of like a fun.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Professor, where we talk about different books that prolific writers
worked on that really conte need a resonate and still
kind of push the needle forward in culture today.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited. Check it out, y'all. All right, okay,
So a little intro for you.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Better known online as Adam the Flop, is the Chicago
born content creator and pop culture commentator known for his
sharp takes on music, celbody, drama, and the ever changing
internet landscape. With over a million followers across platforms, Adam's
Flop or Not series and chart breakdowns have made him
one of gen Z's go to voice the spirit for smart,
funny and unfiltered pop commentary.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
And we're like podcast siblings because new podcasts.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Talk about them.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yes, yes, thank you for that intro. That was so sweet.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I mean, Maya wrote it all Feathered Plume in the
in the night.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, under the moon.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
It's hard to type it out because I was writing
it down.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah. How are you doing, bestie? How's everything with you?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I'm good, I'm good. I just moved to a new
apartment recently, which is so exciting. Living in the same
place for about two years in La so it just
recently moved to a new area and just trying to
get used to it. But yeah, it's a good vibe.
I love it so far.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Amazing. You know, we should do side but we should
guess Adam's sign. Do you know it already?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay, so we don't know You're sign yet, but at
the end of it, we have like the zodiac section. Okay,
can I just ask one question while I think about it?
I just want to know, tell me about your closet.
Is it color corded? Is it organized? Is it messy?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
It is color coordinated, but that's because my boyfriend's like
super color coordinated, so he organized.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
It all for me.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Normally it probably wouldn't be. Okay, it is color coordinating.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
When you're arguing with your boyfriend? Who who do you?
Who gets emotional? Who gets loud?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I feel like I'm more of like a sensitive emotional
type of person.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Got it? Okay, we'll be asking more questions about your podcast. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
So I recently started a podcast. It's called the BAP Bible,
and I do a lot of deep dives on pop girls.
I've always loved the music industry, everything about it, and
so I I wanted to start a podcast that is
more so a space for me to do these deep
tives instead of just kind of like fitting everything I
(10:09):
can in like a minute long TikTok or Instagram reel,
you know. Yeah, so kind of just having that space
where I could sit there and yap about the pop girls.
But yeah, I talk about the music industry. I talk
about album rollouts, everything about the rollout, from the marketing
to the singles promotion, big pop culture moments that surrounded
the eras. And I also do interviews with artists and songwriters.
(10:30):
So yeah, if you guys like music, definitely check it out.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Oh I love that. Who is like your pop girly Like,
Who's like You're number one?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Oh my gosh, gonna be like a bore. Always so
gagged when I say that, But like, I've always loved her,
stand her so hard. She's a great performer, great writer,
great vocalist. She has it all.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Do you take it personally when people are critical or
like talk shit about Camilla, Like, do you have like
a little bit of a para social.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Relationship with it?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I feel like I just think she gets a lot
of hate online, and I feel bad because I remember
when she was starting her c xox o rollout. People
were like, oh, this, this is her copying Charlie XCX,
when in reality, the album was not Charlie XCX at all.
It was not hyper Pops. So there was a lot
of controversy surrounding that when really there was like no
(11:18):
issue with it at all.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Was it the song where she's like I love it eleven?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, Yeah, it was that song that kind of started
it all. And then I feel like the hate kind
of led into that era and kind of like ruined
her rollout, which I felt bad about. But I just
love her music. I love that she's just like a
Latino pop girl.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, and you fight somebody over having like some hate
over Carila, I'll argue because like the bars get really upset,
like super like how I get protective of Selena and
I do get protective of Beyonce.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Okay, yeah, okay, okay, I love Sinagomez too, but.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Fine, she's okay.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
You know. Well, speaking of celebrity cheese, man, we have
this segment called celebri chiesse May where you want to
talk about Taylor Swift in this episode and the life
of a show girl and that rollout. There's been so much,
and maybe we're like on the tail end of like,
well no, because she's like coming out like a new
movie too, right, and she's I'm very curious to know,
(12:21):
like what your opinion on the rollout of Life of
a Showgirl and the album itself.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Are you Swifty?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I do like Taylor Swift a lot. I feel like
I don't really identify as a full on Swifty because
I feel like Swifties are just like so invested in
everything she.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Does and that ruins it sometimes.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, so I And there are a lot of
albums by her that I don't really like. There are
a lot that I do like. So with her, it's
always like I approach her music with a very like
I like her vibe, but I'm not like super super
into her to the point where I need to like
defend anything that like, I don't know, Like, I do
appreciate her and I love her songwriting. I think she's
(13:04):
an excellent pop artist, but this album is definitely interesting
for me.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, how did you feel about the rollout? Like the
you know, the pictures and the aesthetics.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I think so. I love the visuals that she was
teasing with the album, like this whole showgirl vibe. I
thought it was so interesting, and obviously she just came
off of a massive tour, the biggest tour in history,
and so I think that it was just a good
way to show that with her visuals. But then the
album comes out and it's not really showgirl vibes at all,
(13:40):
And I was hoping for more of those types of lyrics,
Like I was hoping that there would maybe be some
songs on there about like her finishing a show and
then maybe like finding Travis afterwards and how like good
that feels, you know, kind of like incorporating more more
of the show aspect into the lyrics I think would
have been really cool. I think my main issue with
the album is that a lot of it was just
(14:02):
based off the same thing, which was her having all
these failed relationships and then finding a new love that's
gonna last forever. There's like six songs on the album
that's about that same exact topic, which is half the album.
Where I feel like there's other albums by her, there's
that have more of a variety with her songwriting, like
folklore for example.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
That what it was. It it was just like kind
of monotonous after a certain point.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Like because when people are like these lyrics just aren't
as good as they usually are as I mean, I
might get shipped for this, but I feel like they've
always kind of been in the same sort of realm
of lyricism.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, like I've never it's so sidebar.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I like, we'll like look at people's micro expressions when
I say things sometimes. So right when I said that this,
I went up to so I'm like, no, it's like
nobody knows when.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
They're doing it. But I like I will always just
study those little things.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, but like, yeah, I just so it's a it's
a thing that I'm like, kind of I'm surprised that
people are surprised, if that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And then yeah, I kind of act. I heard some
of the.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Album while driving and I didn't know it was her,
and I was like, oh, who is this? It's kind
of it's good. Who's Aphelia? Who's singing about Ophelia?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
This is pretty good?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I see that song is very good. I think it
is one of her best songs that she's ever heard
before she started the era. She said in Travis Kelsey's
podcast New Heights that when she was working on the
Life of a Showgirl with Max Martin and Shellback who
this is. This is her first time working with them
(15:30):
since Reputation, which was in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So she said on that podcast that when reuniting with
these producers, they wanted her to have the storytelling aspect
of folklore and evermore, but the pop vibes of like
nineteen eighty nine Reputation, and I feel like that song,
the Life of Aphelia is exactly what that is. It's
like that type of song lyrically could fit well on folklore,
(15:56):
but the pop vibes of it are just out of
this world. And I think it's one of her best.
But then the rest of the album is kind of
just like.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
It's a little flat, feels like yeah, very recycled and repetitive,
(16:25):
and yeah, I just I don't And I know there's
a lot of discourse too around like that she's just
this white girl that like, especially when she saying like
I'm not a bad bitch, I'm not a savage, Like
what do you think about the discourse around that.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I think some of her lyrics can just be like
very corny.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Like yeah, are they just like throw away?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Actually romantic the song that she's shading Charlie XCX.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Do you think it really is shading Charlie?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Absolutely, But like it's supposedly a response to charlie song
Sympathy is a Knife, which I don't know if you
guys have heard that song, but that song really isn't
a dis track at all. She's basically the song is
supposedly about Taylor, and she's sang the song that she
feels insecure around this very successful woman. And people assume
(17:17):
that song is about Taylor because Charlie says in the song,
I hope I don't want to see you backstage at
my boyfriend's show. And Charlie's man is George Daniel, who's
in the nineteen seventy five with Mattie Healy, who is
dating Taylor Swift, So that lyric just had to have
been about Taylor.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah, and Charlie opened up for Taylor.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Yeah, they spent a lot of interesting like time together.
But I yeah, I think I just it's interesting to
see just the contrast of like the fans as well
some of the diehard fans even being not satisfied Yeah
with this.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, I've seen a lot of fans kind of disappointed
by it, which is sad, but also like a lot
of fans are super super passionate about it, and like
she just got her biggest debut ever, which like is
also a bit of like that's a little bit controversial
because it's like every time she tries to get these
big debuts. She I mean, she released thirty eight different
versions of this album to get a big debut, and
(18:18):
like sales are always like her number one thing. It's
thirty eight thirty eight different versions of the album.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
What does that mean? Thirty eight different versions?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I know that it like I saw some things that
people were saying, like it included this and included that,
But like, how do you do thirty eight variations?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So she had like multiple different vinyl variants with different covers,
which is like a normal thing for artists to do
on their website. But then she also went and uploaded
different versions onto iTunes, Like some of them had like
voice memos of recording sessions of when she was making
the music and stuff like that. So she found different ways,
(18:53):
which I guess it's very smart, Like it's a very
like calculated move, like you have to. I'm sure she
has meeting of how to make each release, like each
variant different, because it's like crazy because yeah, thirty eight
different versions, Like how do you even do that? But yeah,
it's just like adding something different to each variant I
guess each version of the album.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah that's so interesting, Yeah, because I feel like with
people talking now, I've heard people who have never been
fans who are like, actually, this album made me a fan.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
It's not the same.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
But I remember with Kanye, like people were problem out
at Kanye, but you know a lot of people were fans,
diehard fans for a long time until he released like
the Donda album or the one right before that one,
But like people just dip and then he got like
different fans. So I wonder if that's just a normal
thing that happens with yeah superstars, you know. Yeah, yeah,
(19:46):
I feel like when they're just at that level, it's
like you already have a massive fan base that's going
to support you no matter what, so you could make
us switch up. But like sometimes it is very surprising
and it's not what people are expecting.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yeah, what would you give like her rollout for marketing? Like,
I don't know, do you think it's like up there
with like Beyonce, right, like, because she's one of the
greats as well, like Taylor's one of the greats. She's
an amazing lyricist, and I think she's so calculated, yeah,
and very smart that like, even if this album is
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going to be a flop or whatever, I'm going to
make so much money.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, exactly, Like the marketing was there. She announced the
album two months before releasing it on New Heights with
Travis Kelcey, which was the best way to start the
era because it was like her first time being on
that podcast. Really the first time that we've seen Travis
and Taylor talk to each other, right, because beforehand, it's
just been like them talking about each other or we've
(20:46):
seen like paparazzi photos, but this is our first time
really seeing them interact. And so starting the era, I mean,
she was bound to have a big era after doing that,
Like people are obsessed with them as a couple. And
then they got engaged right after that. That engagement alone,
that was great promo for the album two and yeah,
so the album not saying that the engagement was like
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just happened because she was in an album rollout, but
it helped for sure sailor SPT you never know. Yeah,
but I think with the album, a large part of
it being about Travis Calse like those two things happening
before their before the album came out. In general, we're
just like great promo tactics for the album and there's like.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
A song about his pepe on it.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
But she said it's like large or.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
What many different descriptions, different.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Ways, right, yep, yep. She The song is called Wood
and it's very Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Yeah, that's a lot of the things I've been hearing
as well, is like and Sabrina's on Life of a
show Girl as well. She's on that song and it
feels like she was like I kind of want to
do what Sabrina is doing right now and not saying
like nobody can do that or like Sabrina originated it,
but it is very Sabrina coded.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, no, it is for sure, like you can tell
that there was some influence there. It's weird hearing that
type of song from Taylor from Sabrina would have made
sense because we're used to that from her, but Taylor
was like completely different.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, clutching so upset by it though, because I know
we were like we get it, and I'm like, well,
I mean that's your girl. Like again, like as a
fan of Beyonce, right, Beyonce could release this song talking
about Dick all night long and I would be like, Yeah,
whatever Beyonce wants to do, Beyonce can do it.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I don't give a book.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Like, but why do you think so many fans were
just like like clutching their pearls like they are they
Is that too much for them?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
You think?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I feel like maybe not the fans, like the diehard Swifties,
like they're like, oh my gosh, like the giggling Travis
Casey's pep like this.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, But like I feel like it's more so like
the haters are going to be like because Taylor has
like harsh haters, and I honestly feel like this album
Rollout like has been the most amount of hate that
she's received from her haters since like her twenty sixteen
hate train, which is I don't say, really sad, but yeah,
I feel like I've just seen so many new hate
(23:05):
comments like every single day surrounding her, and it just
goes and it goes beyond the music. You know, it's
one thing to not like the music, but like I've
seen posts attacking like her appearance, attacking like her engagement. Yeah,
like just yeah, just people go so far beyond the
music to the point where it's like genuinely hateful. Music
is meant to be like critiqued art. It's art, you know,
(23:28):
but people just take it way too far.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Do you think women get it worse? Like I feel
like I you look at like Jayla right now getting dragged. Yeah,
Nikki Cardi, like all these women are just kidding. There's
just so much like anger and hate towards them and
trying to think like if jay Z posts something or
like what other big male I mean, there's a lot
of big ones, but like maybe Drake gets a lot
(23:51):
of hate.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, no, exactly, Like people cancel. People are obsessed with
canceling women on like female celebrities, Like it happens all
the time, but they do not have that same energy
towards male celebrities.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, that's been my thing too, where like I had
a really good friend she was like Teddy Sinclair now,
but she used to go by Natalia Kills back in
the day, and she went super viral. She was like
up and coming, like working with some of the best
people at her label at the time.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
She's an expector, she was an X factor.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, and they had asked her to be kind of
like the Simon Cowell of the time and be kind
of like mean, and she was mean and it like
ruined in this in this thing, she was mean, right,
and it ruined her career and it like, you know,
she has been behind the scenes. She's writing songs from
Madonna for what are they call black black pink, a
(24:44):
black pink black pink, like a lot of She's a
big singer songwriter, right, But I'm always I get very
protective of her too, because like even when she posts
any little thing, people will be like, you were so mean.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I'm the X Factor, and I'm like, you guys.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
From a while ago, Yeah, that's over.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Executor Simon coll It's like he still has his career
and he became popular based off of like being a
mean judge on American Idol. So it's like, yeah, it's
kind of insane how they have that energy towards a woman.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Yeah, man, Yeah, I mean I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
She's a woman of color, right, So it's kind of like, yeah, yeah,
the world like, well they want to, like you said, cancel.
But even just like the way that somebody as prolific
as Madonna, right like Madonna.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
People are like, oh my god, you're so old. Put
your boobs away.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And I'm like, it wasn't okay for her to show
her boobs when she was twenty five. It's not okay
for her to show her boobs. When was it okay
for her to just be herself?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Oh? Never?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, So I feel like, you know, but then you
see somebody like like even like the Bar and I
mean there's video of her yelling at somebody on stage
and people would just be like it's fine.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
At some point, I feel like you have to take
into consideration the fact that like Nikki has fought with
like so many of the other rap girls everybody. Every though,
it's like it gets to point where it's like, Okay,
when is this gonna end? There's just like so much
like arguing, Like it's just it's a lot for sure.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I feel like recently there's been like so much on
the internet that's been Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I mean you look at like an Azalea Banks too,
and Azalea has been really open about how I think
she's like, I have the same diagnosis as Kanye, but
I have not had the same sort of success or
the same sort of like h and they're not the same, right,
But I'm just saying like Azalea is brilliant in her
own way as well, but just the way that she's like,
I'm dragged more and canceled more when I have.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
The same mental condition that Kanye has.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So it just gets really interesting because I'm like, you know,
what is the dynamic, what is like the way that
we treat different artists.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Oh my gosh, Azalea Banks, like Loki tried dragging me
on Twitter ones shut up?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
It was she.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I literally didn't post anything bad. I posted like a
review of Lady Gaga's album and I was like, she
should make this the next single whatever, And then Azalea
quoted it and was like, why is he telling her
what she needs to do? She called me a gay
MAGATCHI what is that?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, I'm so dead, but it felt like he felt
like a badge of it. I was like, in Daily
Banks is dragging me on the.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Oh yeah, for sure. A game of Gotchachi that's so good.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
He came out recently about her. There wasn't too it
comes on this wild and this one was like this
one was like I'm like, I don't funk with her.
I mean I never really did, but after that I.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Was like, it's just too too much.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yea, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And that's the thing too though, Like there's some people that, yes,
we should be But then you look at somebody like
Mark Wahlberg. Right, we were talking about this earlier where
it was like Mark Wahlberg has had a history of
beating someone so badly it was a race crime that
they lost their eyeball, and we Mark Wahlberg is living
his best life, do you know what I mean? Like,
you look at somebody like Chris Brown who's selling out stadiums,
(27:56):
and we know we've seen his work on a pop icon,
and so you kind of start to go, like, what
what is real? But then you have somebody in the
current administration who like has literally like so many things
that have been I guess seen, do you know what
I mean exactly, like in the in the court of law,
(28:18):
And so then you're like, but yet he's still winning
in a lot of ways, So like, who really is
is cancel culture even real?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Right?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I feel like the older I've gotten, Like I feel
like I was at the beginning of cancel culture and
now I'm like, I don't think it's real, guys.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, it's just like it's interesting because it's a lot
different from what it was like back in the day.
Like back in the day, I feel like it was
just like very press heavy, Like TikTok wasn't as pop,
TikTok wasn't didn't exist, you know, until like twenty eighteen,
I want to say, And so now it's like anybody
(28:54):
can go on TikTok and like talk about a celebrity
and have it go viral, which is I feel like
that's what what's the makes cancel culture different now, is
that like anybody can say anything about a celebrity and
havco viral. Whereas like before it was just very like, yeah,
press heavy have been canceled? Yet have they been canceled?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I did that thing again.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
No, I'm very like positive with my content. I feel
like I'm not I'm never like hateful. There was time
a time when the Britney the Britney Spears fans got
mad at me because I was on a podcast and
I said that for like people who grew up like
(29:37):
when I did, Like for my generation, I was born
in two thousand and so I remember saying on the podcast,
I was like, for my generation, like Jamie Lynn Spears
was my introduction to Britney Spears because Jamie Spears was
on Zoe went yeah yeah, and I was like that
song when that show came out, and so I found
(29:59):
out about Jamie before where I found out about Brittany.
And so that's what I was trying to say on
the podcast. And the Britney Spears fans did not like that.
I mean the history with them too, I'm sure, but yeah, yeah,
I get it that her fans are very protective over Brittany,
which makes sense. I feel like Brittany, you know, she
needs that protective energy from her fandom.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
What do you think about the poop scandal the recent
It's like there's like a lot of her video she
has like dog poop all over the floor and I
have not seen a lot of people are Britney fans
were like is she going to bring the pick the
poop up?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Or yeah? So like there's like photos of her.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
People were just talking about that's so interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I've yeah, yeah, they were talking about about it on
the breakfast.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Like her dog.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, yeah, you're not thinking what it was.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
But have you been canceled before?
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Okay, like I feel like softly maybe twice. There was
one time with like the try guys, the whole Ned scandal.
As people who have had personal experiences working at a
company where these people were there and I know them personally,
(31:09):
have met them personally, I have not had a parasocial relationship.
I just shouldn't have never I should have never said
anything like at all. But when all that stuff happened
with the scandal, I tweeted very much not surprised for words,
that's it. But then like some of my former coworkers
(31:30):
commented underneath, like yeah, oh my god, saying because you know,
and this is not my story to tell because it
involves somebody else, But there was something that happened that
I like has always been in my memory and I
just don't like Ned for these certain reasons. Everybody has
a story basically about this person, how horrible he is
and weird, and so I just said very much not surprised,
(31:53):
and the people were like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
What you like?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
They were they were saying, like you should have told
Aril or Ari, like you should have told them, you
should have, But I'm like, I don't. I'm not responsible
for that. I'm like, I just know that in the past,
like this person used to be the head of the
interns and there was a lot of really problematic things
that went on allegedly or.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Somebody was there, Like I don't I didn't have that experience,
Like I didn't experience them in that way.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
I just always was like, because you're either I'm talking
about a lot of women who have had experiences that
have been very uncomfortable around him, and so that was
(32:47):
something that was very much known. And he's also just
like not really like a super cool guy to be around,
like sometimes like everybody else in the try guys would
like say hi to us and you know, be super
kind and I and he just was always like, I
don't know, very off And so that was my experience,
but I didn't really want to say that. I was
just like very much not surprised, being like silly, funny, cute, whatever.
(33:09):
And then it popped up on all these drama channels
and then I'm like I'm on all these like Reddit
things being like, yeah, well I saw you know, so
and so commented, and so and so commented. Maya commented,
and like these people are just like looking for their
fifteen seconds of fame again or looking for relevancy again,
and they wish they were Quinta, and Quinta didn't say anything.
(33:30):
I'm like, Quinta's a nay list star, like doesn't give
a fuck about these people. She's like doing her show.
I'm like, I'm on the internet all the time, so
like people were like in my dms and comments like
just hating on me for commenting on it when I'm like,
so I know these people in real life though, like, yeah,
I worked with them, I have experienced and like you're
(33:53):
mad at me because I didn't tell his wife, who
I'm like not close with. But it's also a thing.
It's like why am I inserting myself in a situation
that people got genuinely hurt? And like it wasn't my
place to be to add a little, like, you know, whatever,
fuel to the fire. You know, So I learned a
big lesson to just shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Anything, to be honest.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
I'm always like that, I said, very much, not surprised,
like that's it, you know, And but it was still
the fact that you know, like this situation was extremely
traumatic for a lot of people involved.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
So why would I, you know, add a little bit
of whatever knowing I have like the verified check mark,
knowing that I worked there, like and the fans I
know were very hurt about it. Is this my public apology?
I'm not apologizing four years Yeah kind of, but like
I'm still my tweet will still be there when they're
(34:51):
doing updates, and I'm like, I deleted it, and you know,
I think people, Yeah, just I just feel like I
should have never gotten involved in that because it's so
not me either, Like I don't ever want to add
more hurt to something that was so devastating and fucked up,
and like now, like what's even fucked up? Is I
keep seeing this full all over the internet again. So
(35:14):
it's like, does is cancel culture actually real? You know,
because he's like people are still booking him and stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
But it's I do think it's to write a passage though,
I think in this business to get canceled, Like I
do think that, like it's inevitable, and it sucks and
it's really painful and it does hurt, and it's hard
to like not internalize it and take it personally because
a lot of times people don't know the full story,
and so it sucks. It hurts because you know, you're
not used to getting like crazy comments or mean things.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Or docs or death threats or all these things.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
And like for me, for example, like when I got
canceled the first time, it was over like kind of
like insensitive jokes that I didn't wasn't aware we're going
to be that hurtful at the time, and they still
follow me around to this day, and it's like, oh,
I just didn't. I grew up in a different era
in the nineties and the two thousands, where like jokes
(36:07):
were a little bit, we were trollish, we were hard
with each other, and I was like I didn't feel
like I was punching down.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I felt like I was punching equals.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
And BuzzFeed at the time, like when was this twenty fifteen,
twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I think it was like twenty.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Twenty, like fourteen, this was a time when you know,
BuzzFeed culture was very much like you gotta say things
that are.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Like yeah, super PC, Like.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
I mean, will not it has to be PC, you know,
It's just like you have to say something that's interesting,
you know, and I yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Think at that time.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
So basically the long story short was they had done
a video of gay guys asked lesbians questions, and then
they did one where lesbians ask gay guys questions. Okay,
and I was just like, I don't I'm a troll.
Like I'm in natural troll. It's very Latino, like, if
you were to be like asking me a question, I'm
going to ask you like I always wanted to, like
if I ever met, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I've just asked them questions.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And so I asked a bunch of them questions and
they were like, that was great.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Can you do it again for this.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Bisexual video where gay guys asked bisexual people questions? And
so I was like, yeah, I'll just ask super questions.
But I didn't realize that the stupid questions were actually
questions that people get a lot when they're met with
biphobia or the erasure of bisexuality. So I didn't realize
that they were like questions that they get all the time.
And so when it came out and people were super
(37:26):
upset with it, like he's bipobic, And then I was like, Oh,
I'm actually not like I actually like, I'm super I
don't have an opinion on what you're if it's too
consenting adults, you could be taking dumps on each other
and I'd be like, work it out. I don't give
a shit it like what live your best life, diva.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
But like at the.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Time, I wasn't allowed to talk about it, Like we
weren't allowed to address issues online because you worked just
as a company. Yeah, Like I mean we were early
buzz feed days. We were like there.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Were no such thing as influencers.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
And I remember being with me Quinta like and other
producers there, and we were like, I.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Guess they're calling us influencers now, Like what the fuck
is that?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
And so it didn't exist, and so when things would
happen on the internet, it was protocol to just ignore it,
that it would blow over, and it didn't blow over,
and it was a whole big thing, like other outlets
were picking me up and using my face as like
the erasure of bisexuality and da da, And it's this
interesting thing because in person, I'm truly just I think
one of the most accepting people, Like I really want
(38:24):
to hear you out.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I want to hear what you're about. I'm gonna play
with you.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I'm gonna like tease you a little bit, because it's
very like ingrained that it's something that I learned with
my theas and my theos and to be a little playful,
but I never mean any harm by it, and so
that when that doesn't come across and suddenly you have
strangers who are telling you about your character, it does.
Oh my god, it was so hurtful. It was like
lost of shit, tond of followers. People still leave comments
(38:49):
on my shit about that, literally almost a decade later.
But I do feel like when I talk to other people.
I have a really good friend of mine who she's
another actress, and she.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Was saying, like, kind of give it a week, like
the next week is going to be you know, somebody
else would get canceled, and.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
She was She's been right ever since. It's always like
you have one week of heavy heat and then.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
You people kind of move on and yeah, people move
on this person. Yeah yeah, yeah. But it's frustrating though
that you can't that you at the time were able
to like go and address it.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
And yeah, yeah, I mean I think nowadays I kind
of just wear it a little bit where I'm like,
it is you don't let that stop you from creating
your art, Like, don't let that stop you from continuing
to be who you are anyways, because it's inevitable.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
And is there room for restorative justice? You know where
you have apologized about that so many different times on
different platforms.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
And I did make a few more jokes and they
didn't like that either.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Okay, well yeah I tried to know. But what I'm
saying is like mind but like restorative justice of like
if somebody is genuinely like apologetic about these certain things
and then they say the statement and then that's being critiqued,
is it that's genuine or not?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
You know?
Speaker 4 (40:08):
But when we ever get to a place.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Where it's kind of like damned if you do down,
if you don't, like, if you apologize, people are going
to critique your apology, critique the way you say it,
or like be like, oh, you didn't address this. It's
like it is kind of it is kind of tricky
because it's like, yeah, it's like they want you to apologize,
but then you do, and it's kind of it could
cause something deeper, Like yeah, I think it's scenario.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Yeah, when it's like parasocial relationships and stuff like that,
I'm like, that's like my situation. I'm like, that was weird.
That was a weird thing for them, for the fans
to like react in that way. But I understand, but
it wasn't cool for me to insert myself and add
more harm. But it's like it's just this weird thing
where it's like what for me.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I get it, Like I get it, but I'm just like,
you don't know the full story, Like when people are
you know, like as you as we all keep moving
forward and growing, like nobody knows the full story. And
even just the fact that they get tiny snippets of
you and they go like you're a terrible person. I'm like, oh,
and then there'll be somebody else that you actually do
know is a terrible person in real life, like.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
And they'll celebrate them and oh my god, my god.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
I knew Ellen.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I knew Ellen was crazy for years, Like so many people, yeah,
so many I knew that in the business would be like, oh,
hell no, she's wild she's wilding out. And then when
it came out, it was like, first of all, by
the way, somebody else who was in the industry too,
was like, I don't know why Ellen's gotten getting canceled
because all of them late night guys are like that too.
(41:39):
They're all like kind of douchey. So why is just
the woman getting dragged?
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:44):
And I mean you hear Kathy Griffin talking about that too,
like talking about how like Conan was addicted.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
To her.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Her then get it harsh?
Speaker 3 (41:53):
You know Kathy got canceled by Crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah yeah that wasn't like that was from the the
Trump thing, right, Yeah that was like after you first
got elected.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Yeah, Crazy. Welcome to the Zodiac section of the podcast. Okay,
I think you might be a Virgo Gemini.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Noy, Wait, don't say close, don't give me a hand?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
No wait wait wait you guess the last one.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Needn't let me like get my.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I feel like I'm like so my sign huh?
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Okay, wait, I do want to know. Like you said that, you.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Get kind of emotional. Now, are you get kind of
angry and like sensitive? You're sensitive? Do you cry or
do you get rowdy?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I don't really cry, no, just like my feelings are hurt.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
It's giving earth signed vibes.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
But are you a water or like, tell us what element?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Can I just tell you what? I am sure?
Speaker 4 (42:52):
I never guess. I was thinking, Yeah, I was gonna Virgo,
and then I was gonna say Capricorn. Then I was
gonna say Pisces.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, giving Earth sign for sure?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Really?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I mean, when's birthday in May? Okay? My mom?
Speaker 2 (43:09):
I'm like so rounded by tauruses, like my mom's toyists
one of my best friends, the toys one, my toyist.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Oh love that I love like other tourists. What do
you guys, Virgo? You're giving me?
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Did say that?
Speaker 1 (43:29):
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Yeah? Wow, amazing.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
I'm not even good at like.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Touris is shown me crazy like I as your Earth sibling.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
But yeah, I feel like if you have a lot
in your life.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
We're Earth siblings and I and we all maneuver the
same way. Like I just I trust y'all so much.
And it's more like like if you have like a
sibling that you love, and you're like, I want you
to go out on that dance floor and shake and
have so much fun.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
I hit on the gun, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Like I feel like I have that with a lot
of my touruses where I'm just like, come on, I
want you to like loosen up a little bit, have
a little bit of fun, like shake it up, you know,
like a little like goofy.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Girl energy is what I wish upon. Do you have
goofy girl energy?
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I feel like, yeah, I feel it a goofy girl.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
You know, all the pop divas like those are goofy
girls in themselves.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
What's he's a scorpio. He's a very scorpio energy.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yeah, he's very I feel like Scorpios are very like
how would you describe it? It's like I feel like
they're more like outgoing, like very like he's the type
of person that could like go up to anybody. He
can like talk to wall I feel like that's like.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
A very like more extroverted. Are you more introverted?
Speaker 1 (44:48):
I am a bit more introverted.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
You know you're rising in your.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Moon cancer rising and Leo.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Moon double water.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
No, that's you're maybe it's Leo Moon cancer rising. It's
one of those.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
So your earth water and fire I think so interesting?
Speaker 4 (45:06):
Yeah, pretty balanced?
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Are there any signs that you like don't get along
with or I feel like you always were like like
the low vibration ones.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
You know, low vibration ones.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
You can say, as you know, I beef with other
Earth signs a lot like other toys, Like I beef
with tors, that beef with Capricorns.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
I feel like maybe Capricorn, That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
Okay, home, We're actually not supposed to talk about caricor.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Bad reviews are about how hard we drag capricorns. Wait, really,
we've just thought.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
I mean, I've had bad experiences.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
I just feel like I don't have beef with a
lot of people, but the people I do have beef
with our capricorn.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Yeah, it's kind of like wild. I'm like, but Scorpios,
I love.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
I'm a verbal double scorpio, so I'm very big on
Scorpio energy. But I think my scorpio energy is what
makes me a little bit more like I'm chatty, but
then I want to go into like my little burrow. Yeah,
and like get like really deep and emotional about stuff.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
Also, we love Capricorns, by the way, I love.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
We're just joking God bless blessings.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
I mean, Dolly Parton's a Capricorn, so.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah, I mean that's if she's like the Queen of
the capricorns exactly.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
That's you know, which also I don't know, okay.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
And that concludes the zodiac portion of the podcast. Oh
my goodness, thank you so much for me. So tell
us where you can find like your podcast because it's
also with so and siblings.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
So the podcast is called the Bop Bible. It is
on any platform that you listen to podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Apple.
You can also find me on TikTok and Instagram at
Adam the Flop. That's where you'll find out my short
form content. And I also do long form, other long
form content and YouTube as well. So yeah, definitely give
(46:54):
it a view if you like pop music.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Yeah, give us so.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
Yeah, that's such a great concept and you were so
I was so like, I knew you're going to be
geeked out about what we were talking about and everything. Yeah,
I feel like we're gonna have to do we should
do another episode like deep Diving on like Selena Kathania.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Like Deep Dive. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
I mean, she's getting so much because they're releasing that
documentary on Netflix right now.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah, but I'm here for it. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
I saw it already.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
It's good. I feel like people need to call.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Because it has completely.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Okay, like, don't get me started.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
You could find me mine in the moment and made
my a in the moment anywhere you scroll what I
was gonna say that it has new footage and there's
like there's there's new interviews where you just see her
in like a different light. You're like, oh my god, isn't.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
There like video where they show her kind of tired?
Speaker 4 (47:48):
Yeah, I told you about that and I like that. Yeah,
it was like before the interview and she's like and
then when she has to be on, she's like, I'm
like relatable.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Relatable, No, truly.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
You can find me at the Curly v Show on
Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
Thank you so much for watching another episode and listening
to the other so.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
The floor.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
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episodes every single week. The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast
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