March 6, 2024 • 55 mins
In a world where rejection feels more inevitable than finding matching socks, join hosts as they dive into the chaotic abyss of dating disasters and career misfortunes.In their hilariously honest podcast these two self-proclaimed rejection connoisseurs explore the age-old saying that rejection is just the universe's way of protecting you.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Amaya. How was your weekend?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I have a boyfriend, sir?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Huh are you feeling okay?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm saying no to your advances?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Sir? Oh my god, I'm so confused.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Are you confused about this? And that? Ladies and Gentlemen
Days in them? Is how you reject someone? Really? Are
you okay?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I get it here? Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Who wrote that?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
My name is Curly and I'm Maya And Welcome to
the Super Secret bestI Clubs Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
A super secret club where we talk about super secret things.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, like secrets that are super That's what it is.
In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreaks, men,
and of course our favorite secrets. Get in here.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Welcome back to another episode of the Super Secret Bestie
Club Podcast or How to Have You. Today's topic is rejection?
Is rejection protection or are we just making ourselves feel
better by saying that it's It's like rejection protection is
what is the You remember that song this is gonna
(01:17):
daj Yeah, what's your function?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, rejections your protections?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Schoolhouse Rock, school House Rock, school House Rock.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, it's the condom of life that ain't bang bang wings.
How's your spirit? You tell me how's your spirit?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
My spirit's good. I am going to a little like
event tonight, hopefully, like I said this in the last
episode because we're recording on the same day. But oh
my god, I didn't sleep at all last night. Someone
was so freaking tired.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Just tonight for the first time, just about half past
and you're going.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
To I thought you're gonna sing tonight's the night from
high school musical.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Three.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Oh I've never watched anything in high school musical. Oh oh,
but it's a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I just you haven't.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Oh, yeah, that's right. How's your spirit?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
My spirit's good. Actually, I'm excited. I'm caffeinated. I'm super caffeinated.
And I also just ate an orange.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Hmmm. That's good.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You know, what is a new update for me? I'm
officially like a asthma inhaler person. So my doctor just
prescribed me an inhaler that I have to use twice
a day.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, because you that was scary what you had.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Said, how I couldn't breathe.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, I've always had asthma. It's always been seasonal, but
I've never had like not being able to breathe, like
like I had to be like breathe. I had to
tell myself to breathe like it doesn't come. You know,
he has asthma.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
He's asthmatic. He's asthmatic.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's kind of endearing to walk around with the inhalo
and go, I'm sorry, I can't read.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You should be dazzle it. We should decorate it. Put
it in all denim, a denim sleeve if you will.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Well, today's episode is about rejection and kind of like
the art, the arts of the rejection, the rejection.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
What's rejection of Spanish?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Uh? KABOUDI should we call you k b.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Or ai or ai by actual real human?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
K yeah, we say, is a real human?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
What's rejection in Spanish? Can you translate for us? Analyzing?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Now? Chasso chasso? Than I mean, look, how you been
rejected before? How do you feel about being rejected?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yes, rejection for me used to be really, really harsh,
and I think I still am working through. I'm also
working through words or things, so I'm eliminating struggle from
my vocabulary and difficult hard, I mean challenging whatever. I'm
really trying to be mindful. So if you hear me
doing that, that's what I'm doing. In my brain. I'm
(04:24):
replacing words in real time.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I know.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I know how much more amazing can I get? Sorry, Yes, rejection.
Rejection sucks. Ass sucks, asshole, It sucks hard. It is
something that I used to be very very like fearful of,
(04:50):
Like that was one of my biggest fears. And I
feel like now I'm working out of that kind of
like thing about rejection because I think the whole thing
about being embarrassed, Like I don't like being being embarrassed,
and I feel like I still have some feelings about
it that I'm working through for sure. What about you?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, I mean, look, I've rejected all the time. I
feel like I feel like I've been rejected my entire life,
and it's only up until recently that actually, you know,
I take that back. I've been rejected, I've been welcomed,
I've done, I've had all of it. So it's been
more I would say that I've been more rejected more
than i've been like taken in. So it's definitely been
like a learning lesson and something that has been kind
(05:33):
of like a thing in my almost like a life
lesson that I had to learn in this life is
just like what it means to be rejected. What does
it mean to be rejected and what it doesn't mean
to be rejected, you know, and we can get into
that later, but like you know, getting rejected oftentimes just
means that it has to do more with what the
person is looking for. It just means what it has
(05:54):
to do with like time and place right, it has
to do with what somebody is looking for in terms
of an assistant, or who to hire, who to bring
on the team, or what someone is looking for at
that moment in terms of who they want to date.
Like there was a time when I wanted to just
date DJs. I was like, I really want to date
a DJ, go to all the parties, want toographer.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
You want to date a DJ?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
And Douche that's amazing, And Douche get it for my
latest single, Douche, thank.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
You to play while you Douche.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You're just like leaving a mess on every stage across
the globe. But like I feel as if, yeah, I mean,
even that changes. So I do feel like, yes, it's
hurt me and it's been something that I've dealt with,
but it's part of I believe what makes a well
rounded individual if they can actually look back and be
(07:02):
kind of and understand that the rejections had to happen
in order to get them where they are today.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Would you say that the rejection is protection or do
we j say that to make ourselves feel better.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I think it's a bit of both, if I'm honest.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, honest of both, because you don't know, you don't know,
like there have been have you had moments. I've definitely
had moments that are like, oh, man, rejection is protection
from people from career. Like I let's get into that
a little bit. Like when it comes to career and stuff.
(07:40):
There was a couple of auditions, a couple of things
that I auditioned for that ended up coming out and
got a lot of backlash on and I was like,
can you imagine if I was attached to that certain show,
like it just wouldn't have been it would it would
not been a good look girl. But then there's other things,
(08:01):
and I'm like, you know, like I auditioned for I
Carly I think early twenty twenty one, and like I
didn't get it and I was so sad. And it
wasn't a rejection as protection thing because the series is
really good, although they got canceled out of the like
(08:23):
the height of like the storyline. So that was a
little bit hard because I was like, you know, I
really really wanted it. But every single rejection comes with
a lesson and something that you need to like do. So,
like for the Ikari audition thing, I'm like, I would
love to get into class and take acting classes. So
(08:43):
that was my first time getting into acting classes was
because of that audition, because I was like, I want
to be more prepared, and I think with this other
this Disney show that I auditioned for, I didn't have
a manager at the time, and that made me want
to get a manager, you know. So there were different
like rejection things that happened in my career. I mean
(09:05):
there's a lot more. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot more.
But that's just like kind of do you find with
like in your career that you've seen these rejections, but
you kind of get the lesson after. The lessons are
always sweet after.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, There's been a lot of jobs that I'm like
to him that would be really dope, that would be
really sick. You know. I was up to host a
gig for Quibi and there was talks about me moving
to Miami and doing that. That didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Everyone was talking about it.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I mean, Quibi went out of business, so it's kind
of like, oh shit, like then what happens? You know
what I mean? It still been really cool. I auditioned
for a lot of shows that I think would have
been really dope. I auditioned for Primos, and the guy
that got the job is phenomenal and amazing, But I
also think like, what would have been like had the
character been a fun gig guy, you know, yeah, and
I didn't get that part. I've auditioned for so many
(09:57):
things that I've been like, you know, I audition for
Fire Island and the Car. The person that got it
was a little bit more flamboyant, and I thought, like
that person absolutely deserves to be seen and.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Heard right right, Like you're like, okay, that makes sense,
Like I see what they were looking for. It wasn't
necessarily like your look or your vibe. It was that
it's not.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, And I do that all the time, right, Like
I go into places and I'm like, look, I'm not
a mean I'm not a mean gay. You're not going
to get me and gay sound bites out of me.
So if you want someone chill who has more like
chill primo vibes cool, But if you want me to
be mean and talk shit to especially women or other guys,
like I'm not going to be that, Like what are
you talking something? Whatever? Anyway, sometimes I could be playful,
(10:41):
but that's you're just not go I am.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
But yeah, you're not a stereotype.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, and I will say that. Like, you know, before
I got to Buzz Speed, which was kind of like
the where things really popped off for me, I was
trying to get jobs everywhere, like I was just like
just I was broke. I was a broke artist. I
smelled like pee because I hated to shower. I didn't
wear underwear. I didn't care about it. I was dirty,
(11:09):
like my room was dirty, my car was dirty, my
kulo was dirty. I didn't give a fuck. Like and
when I remember, I wanted this job at Hope Look
Oh Look, which was like a website off of like
for like Norange drums or something, and you could be
a stylist, you know, like the it was like photographers, cameras,
models clothes, and you basically have to dress the models
(11:33):
for like their catalog on the website, and I wanted
to work there so badly, and I remember them going,
you just left, David la Chapelle and Jeremy Scott, why
do you want to work here? You're like almost too
like ahead to work here, like to like too overqualify.
And I was like, I need a job, Like I'm
seriously so fucking broke. I need a job. And they
didn't hire me. And I wanted to work there so badly.
(11:55):
And one step and one thing, one step and one
misstep took me to BuzzFeed, which then I went out
of fashion because I was just working in digital and
that became where I was. You know what really helped
my entire life and the life of the people around me.
And it's rippled in a lot of different ways too.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But I will say that your fashion background heavily influenced
Fettle like and your work and your image and everything,
like for sure, like I feel like it gave you
an it gave you an edge where it was like
you know, like when it came to concept and like
aesthetics for the brand, like you and Age always had.
(12:36):
You guys were cooking up something beautiful and there's like
an artistry to it that everyone was in such a
digital mindset that you guys were looking at like bigger picture,
you know, which I think is like kind of cool
that these things that we see have rejected us, or
that maybe we thought like, oh, you know, maybe I'm
(12:58):
not meant for this anymore. Like I guess that, like
there's a reason for everything, you know, Like that's why
it's so complex when it comes to jobs and our
career and the things that we love to do. Because
I'm very much like all over the place. I love
to sing, I love to make videos, I love to write,
I love to act, I love to direct, like all
this stuff, and it feels like it's all over the place.
(13:20):
So like I had auditioned for like this Broadway thing
this past summer last year, and I didn't get it,
and I was so devastated, But I had also had
compassion for myself that I was like, at least you
did it number one and number two, you are not
You've never trained classically or professionally like these other people have,
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who this is their entire life is musical theater, they know,
And so I felt kind of like that rejection was
like an unnecessary rejection because I should have been in
class all of these years, and I should have been
doing this and that. But it's also like you can't
kind of like, uh, you can't be so hard on
(14:04):
your journey or yourself because we don't know where we're
gonna end up. You know, we don't know where we're
gonna land. But these kind of like quote unquote rejections
I feel like, are the biggest influence in our lives.
That kind of jumpstart and I feel like it's like
the oh, like the roller coaster. Yes, it's like that,
(14:28):
you know, it's it like launches us into this other
realm of like, you know, Okay, the worst thing that
I thought was gonna happen happened. I didn't get it.
Now the fuck what.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
The other part of that, too, I will say, is
that you know, through chance, actually through opportunity and through rejection,
you forget about like chance, right, you forget that like
there will be some people who have never trained and
get it, and that also it's just it's just meant
for them, right, Like, yes, we hear stories about people
who are like I've never acted a day in my
(15:01):
life and they get apart some other and yeah, yeah,
that alshow that also should take off the pressure off
of you too, right off of us as well, to
be like, when it's meant for you, it's meant it
clearly will be meant for you.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
What is meant for you will not miss you exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So you know, it's kind of like those things where
I go, Damn, I didn't get into fashion. I remember
when I worked in fashion. I was making five hundred
dollars a month a month, working insane hours, and I
love how you go, wows if you didn't know that
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I didn't know that you're making five hundred a month.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna give you my best friend for
seventeen thousand years now working five a month, and you know,
and now you know, working in digital, that's not the case, right,
Like like we also kind of can get to be
our own bosses in a lot of ways and a
lot of times when when things are really good, and
so it's like this thing where you go like everything
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is playing into itself. So it's the rejection. It's almost
like like your water and you're moving through the world
and when one wall, one door closes, you flow a
different way. And if another door just so happens to
be over at the exact same time. What a wonderful
place you'll find yourself yourself in just like we did
five years ago when we were getting on stage. I
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better like.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Because I feel like we only have a certain amount
of control. And I when I now my issue or
the way I deal with rejection with career, is that
I'm like God willing, like whoever universe Selena, if it's
meant for me, My God is Selena. My She's my
(16:45):
Cretian angel. I don't know Selene and Kipania if you guys,
Oh wait, I'm sorry, sorry, I'm talking right now. Sorry
you interrupting me again.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Selena said she doesn't know yet. Okay, by Selena, thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
That's funny because she actually told me about the She
has a restraining order against you, so a spiritual restraining
order against you. So that's kind of funny that you
would call her because you just violated it right now.
So anyway, as I was saying, you know, whatever my
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path is up to, I'm not I cannot see what
is fully meant for me. I can only go where
my spirit is led. And if my if this I'm
not led to this thing that I really, really, really
wanted like then, I have to let it go. It's
rejection is about letting. It's teaching you how to let
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it go. And like you say, like you said right now,
flowing like water. My mom also says to float, like
float above it, float above it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah. I always say, like here the river brought you.
It is here the river meant.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
And I always say, should I choose the smoothest course?
You know I'm married? Wait, coco oh, my chream hats intense? Oh?
(18:33):
I like, can you say it?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
How do I say it? Or do now? What's the
line that I sing usually?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Or do you still yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Or do you still do yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Cocohona is the auto tune? You know. Look, I think
rejection will bleed into other areas of your life that
will be equally as painful. We get hurt when we
get turned down for careers and job opportunities that we
were wishing for and hoping for accolades, that we sit
back and wait for somebody to notice us. We don't
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win awards, you know Beyonce of movie and we're still
waiting and we're still great, right, And that can bleed
into love, like love in relationships. I had this one boyfriend,
beautiful human being, truly like a beautiful soul that I
had known for a very long time in my twenties,
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and I really wanted to get with him, Like I
was like, I would look at him and go, we're
we are perfect together. I know that we are perfect together.
And for years he rejected me. He said no, no, no,
no, no no. And then when he finally said yes, I
had a lot of like residual trauma about having been
rejected for so long, which is an actually pretty common
(20:01):
with a lot of people and a lot of couples.
Some couples have that with sex. Some couples have that
with like you know, I've been so kind to you
for all these years, and now you want to be
nice to me, and I'm over right like it's normal.
But I actually couldn't work myself out of that feeling.
I stayed stuck in that rejection, and ultimately it led
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to the demise of the relationship. I just couldn't break
free of what that rejection felt like and how it
continues to resonate.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Love is hard. Love is is definitely I'm like, I'm like,
I'm trying to like work out my words, but I'm like, girl,
love is hard, and Jesus and Selena and God would
agree with me too, girl, like it is. It's complex.
It's complex because, like I think, rejection takes a different
form in your brain. It's a different sector of your
(20:53):
brain when it comes to rejection because it's it feels more,
it feels deeper, and it feels personal because at least
with the career stuff, you can you can kind of
like say, okay, well, yeah, I didn't warm up today,
or I didn't like show up, I didn't get a
full night's sleep or something. When it comes to love,
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you're kind of like you're displaying all of your attributes
and your like your heart, and they basically are like
return back to sender and you get your heart yea
in this like like JANKI like package and you're like,
who said they sent me back my heart?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah? I mean, look, even before you get into relationships,
right like, and somebody rejects you, but also the feeling
of being in a relationship and somebody breaks up with you,
right like, that deep feeling of feeling rejected to some
extent by somebody then who you actually did fall in
love with, by somebody that you did actually build a
home and a life with suddenly rejecting you and deciding
(21:57):
that they are a life that doesn't include you, and
that will totally bring up different emotions to the surface
of feeling inadequate or feeling like you're not good like
you know, you're not good enough, you're inadequate, and so
that is a whole nother thing. So but I think
it's kind of just like the risk. I would much
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rather love and love again and get hurt because that's
how and grief over the love, because that's how I
know that I was really essentially sad. But that's how
you know that you are felt something.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
If your yeah, yeah, that you really like loved, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Know like that they are like that that. I forget
who said it, but he said, grief is the price
you pay for loving something, and the only way to
grieve is to grief. So the only way to get
past grief is to grief.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I think it comes to rejection too when we do
get rejected when it comes to love, like we go
down on the list of like, yeah, I guess you
make assumptions. I think rejection assumptions go hand in hand
because you're making assumptions that oh, they rejected me, probably
because insert insecurity you've had your entire life, like, oh,
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they probably rejected me because insert another insecurity that you
got from the last relationship. You know, like there's a
sense of grounding that is super super needed when it
comes to this kind of stuff, because you can spiral,
you can lose yourself, you know, into why am I
not good for you? Why am I not good enough
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for this person? Versus was this person actually good enough
for me? Or how did I feel in this relationship?
Do I want someone who is constantly unsure about me?
You know, Like that's the type of thing I struggled
with so hard in the past. Is like going outward
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and asking those questions more so of like how can
I be good enough for them? What did I do?
What didn't I do? What is actually their type? And
you lose yourself in that because you're giving up your power,
not that not power in the sense of ego, but
there's ego behind it, for sure, but you definitely you
you you have to come back to yourself after that,
and it's harder to come back to yourself because you
(24:16):
like had put all of your kind of like weight
and in love into their hands and they dropped it,
they don't want it, and you have to pick yourself
up back up again.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, but then it kind of becomes an interesting thing too,
because if you go they didn't want me right like
that all socials language, that's really not good. Like they
left me, they rejected me. Like you kind of have
to also try to change your perspective in terms of
like what may have actually happened. We weren't aligned and.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
We don't know either, we'll never fully know.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, Like you know, there have been so many guys
that I'm like, oh, I there's no reason why it
didn't work out for us. It's not that I rejected them.
It's just like, you know, maybe this chemistry wasn't there,
or maybe like I was kind of really trying really
hard to bring up conversation and I just felt like,
I feel like we're going to argue more than we're
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going to get along, like and it might doesn't mean
that they're not beautiful or handsome or worthy of being
in a relationship, but it just is like it's just
not something that I necessarily vibe hard enough to get with.
I will say this life, you will inevitably be rejected
and love. It is inevitable that will happen, and it's
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it's like, just go with it. Just go with it.
I promise you. Thousands of people, millions of people, for
thousands of years have survived this feeling. It feels, it
feels terrible to do it, but you will get up again.
You will love again. The feeling that you feel with
somebody when you're in love is not unique to the individual.
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Although it's rare, it's not unique. So definitely, you know,
keep going.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
What about in friendships, Yeah, I feel like in friendships
I've had a lot of rejection when it comes to
like at BuzzFeed. When I first got to BuzzFeed, like
besides you, like nobody really was interested. Everyone was very
(26:22):
much consumed with like the low morale that was going on,
like Jenny Lorenzo had just been fired. Everyone was really sad.
I came in like you know, bouncing baby girl, like hey,
if you came he your friend, and I feel like
I got like the door slammed in my face because
everyone was just kind of like, you know, I was
(26:43):
the underdog for sure, for sure for sure, And then
it was one of those things where I was like
I'm gonna make you love me. You guys are gonna
love me by the month two and man, love me,
(27:08):
love me? Yeah, and they did, and it felt what good?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Oh no, you said it because you when you first
said it, you sang it when we were talking about it,
you sang it. And then you said and they.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Did and they did and they did. But it was
I felt so much rejection because I was looking for community.
I was alone, and it was very hard not to
get in my head of like, maybe I am a
piece of shit, Maybe I am the most annoying girl
(27:43):
in the entire world, and I don't deserve to be here.
But it was one of those things where you really
had to be like secure in yourself of like and
even in like friendships nowadays, where I'm like, I know
I'm a good friend. I like even if, like I
get into a fight with one of my friends or whatever,
I know that we will do whatever we can. If
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the other person is can communicate as well or take accountability,
I know I'm able to do that. I know I'm
a good friend, and I'm secure at myself when it
comes to that and it happens, if it happens to
be that this person doesn't want to be as close
to me anymore or my friend anymore. I'm not gonna
hold you tight. I'm not gonna hold you. I'm not
gonna hold you down. I'm not gonnatain you too. I'm
(28:25):
not gonna handcuff you to myself. I'm gonna let it.
I'm gonna let it do what it needs to do.
I'm gonna let it breathe. Because I think when it
comes to rejection as well, like with friendships, and it
feels like somebody's moving away, like that can feel like
a silent rejection where all the alarms go on go
(28:47):
off in your head when you see them hanging out
with new people more than you that you necessarily like,
don't know or don't like or have no idea about.
You want to go straight to your that mode where
you're like, okay, Like I had this friend who's always
like are you mad at me? You're hanging out with
this other person all the time, Like are they replacing me?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Like?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
We were friends, girl, we were friends, like, and they
wanted to hold so tight onto our friendship. And that
taught me like this is how it feels when you
hold tight onto somebody else, Like it feels suffocating, and
it makes them want to reject you as well. So
like chill, let it flow, Let it flow.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Well, I think the beauty with friendships I just heard
somebody say the other day is that people don't give
as much weight to friendships as they should. They're actually
some of the longest relationships you will have in your
entire life outside of romantic relationships, and so being able
to communicate with people who are taking up those spaces
in your life is super important and very okay, you know,
(29:56):
I feel like, you know, I've also been rejected in
a lot of areas, Like when I first started at BuzzFeed,
I always say that it was Quinta. I would say,
Andrew Gautier, Quinta and Dasha were the first three people
who were like super kind to me, super like, you know,
and and you know, I kept going out like Sam
uh Sam, I think her last name. I don't know
(30:17):
what Sam's last name is now, but Sam Gordon really
took me under her wing. She was like the president's
assistant at the time, and just like a lot of
other people, started to trickle in eventually too right. But
even in high school, I just ran into some high
school friends and I was saying, how I we were
(30:38):
missed steps style this PDN though. I was saying bye
to somebody, and when I turned around, my high school
friends had gotten into an elevator and left without me.
Mind you, I'm in my thirties now, right, Like that
should not be something that I noticed, but I noticed it.
I was like, Oh, that's so weird that they wouldn't
wait for me. The next day, I saw them again,
and I saw there was a girl that I knew
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in high school, and I waited for her to finish
doing what she was doing, and she looked at me
and she goes, thank you for waiting for me, And
I'm like, duh, that's what you do. You wait for people.
You kind of you let them go through the door
before you. You say thank you and please, you know,
like there's a lot of things, and so in high school,
I remember thinking like, this is why I don't fuck
with people in the valley. This is why I'm gonna
(31:22):
go hang out with the girls in Hollywood. This is
why I only fuck with LA kids because LA kids
keep it real and we're and this is why I
hang with like people of color, because we're taught a
certain type of way, and so I was very angry
in high school, and I was kind of like a
bitchy gay guy because I would be like just annoyed,
and I never and I still don't feel like I'm
part of the group when I hang out with them.
(31:43):
There are a few that I do feel okay with,
but I always feel like an outsider. But this time
I kind of took it as like, instead of it
being a rejection, it was an opportunity for me to go, Oh,
I see how I was raised. Oh I see what
my culture has given me, whether that's being Latino, whether
that's being queer, whether that's being somebody who is a
little bit more feminine. I can see what my life
(32:04):
has done to me. And my life tells me to wait,
to welcome people, to be kind and to be warm.
And so when somebody out there can't do that and
they've rejected that, or they've treated me differently, or they're
blocking me and blocking our friendship, that says more about
them than it does about me, because I'm showing up
in the best place that I can and the best
(32:26):
way that I can, which is always through love. So
you know, I ended up leaving there and being like
tu to Lou, I'm sorry, No, it's fine. I got
in my luxury vehicle and fucking drove down the freeway.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I know it feels so ugly because you go back
into this version of yourself when you didn't have any
boundaries and it was normal for you, and you felt
horrible like that was kind of the norm. And then
now that you're older, you're able to, like you said,
get your luck street car and zoom zoo, bitch.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
That's right. And I will say that part of not
being included in that group, and part of not being
included in certain areas and being a part of the
norm forces you to be part of the counterculture, forces
you to lean into more of who you are, more
of doing your own thing and being able to be
who I am in the space and the lane that
I live in has always afforded me greater opportunities and
(33:24):
opened more doors. So if it meant being rejected by them,
by the way, no tea, no shade to them. They're
amazing people in the super Sweeden. I'm sure they love me,
and I'm out here being all hurt because they don't
in the elevator for me, But like you know, there
was a time where I was like, you guys are
still playing beer pong, aren't we going to get like
a good messca at this point, like chill out, get
a glass of wine, baby girl like beer sure, beer pong, spine.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I don't do beer pong. I do not do I've
never done beer pong. I don't ever want to do
beer pong. It's it's anxiety inducing for me.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Don't people know that your breath stinks like on beer?
But okay, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I don't really drink beer either. But and I think
it's also about having a I don't want to say
collection as if you're collecting, but a collective that have
their own journey with their security and their own friendship
what they provide as a friend in their own they
(34:20):
have their own secure boundaries. They have also been raised
in a similar way of not just being racist, just
common courtesy. You know, it's common like, oh, you know what,
the one time there was like these two girls hugging
in front of me, memory told you, And one of
the girls had their back to me for a long time,
and I was trying to say hi to both of them,
(34:41):
and they would not stop hugging, and I was like hi,
Like it wasn't like I was spoiling a moment. I
was talking to one girl and then the other girl
came up behind me and totally like attack hugged the
girl that I was talking to. And I knew this
other girl, and it was a long time that they
were hugging, and I was like, oh hi, you know,
I felt like a nerd was like hi you guys, Hey, Hi,
(35:03):
like rubbing her back, like being like hey guys, like
I was just talking to her. And then so I
it was so fucking awkward that people around me felt
bad and started talking to me. And I left, and
the moment that I left, they all noticed that, like, oh,
Maya left. They were like oh Maya. Hi. You know,
it just felt like that's rude to me, Like that's
(35:23):
some mean girl shit.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Literally, like the first thing I do. When let's say,
I see you talking to somebody right or like the
first and they're busy, I'll be like, oh my god, Hi,
I'm like, oh my god, to interrupt this conversation. So
I'm sorry. I'll hug you, give you love, turn to
the person next to you and go hi, nice to
thank you. My name is so and so how are you. Yeah,
I just wanted to say hi, I apologize for interrupting.
Have a great eving. Guys, that is like a fucking adult.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And these people are performers, and the number one rule
of theater is you never turn your back on the audience.
You never had your back on anyone like you turn
your back on when it's so fucking rude, like you know,
And so it felt to me like they're comfortable literally
excluding me, ignoring me from this thing, and it felt
(36:09):
so ugly. I was in a mood the entire time.
What felt even uglier was that other people. Yeah, other
people saw it and acknowledged it and started talking to
me because they felt so bad, you know. And it
just is like we talk about women empowerment and all
this shit. Then I'm like, that's how you actually act
towards a woman, Like I don't believe any of that shit.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, And I know also that some people look people
have their moments sometimes we don't notice, but in other instances,
(36:54):
I've always said, when you come to say hi to
me at a table or I'm sitting, I will always
stand up, always turn my body towards you. I will
always make eye contact. But again it goes back to
how where you raised? What are your values? When somebody
is experiencing you or in your aura or in your
orbit right like you know this like there's not a
(37:14):
single person, or maybe there's some and it's probably like
a misstep. That wouldn't that would say, like when I
come to curly, like I will turn and talk to
them and make like full ass eye contact. So when
other people don't do that and they're in their own
little world they're doing whatever, I'm like, you know, we're
all we're all not gifted. It's fine. We all have
our we all have our strengths, and yours is being
(37:35):
a cunt, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
And it also is like a higher self for me
is I'm like, maybe they were truly caught up in
a moment where they you know, you're like seeing this
friend that you whatever. Just I'm just so fucking tired
of all this, like you know, I don't know that's
that's another episode for another day. But let's astrology portion
(38:04):
of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Cue the planets, we can we planets planets getting give
my get in my good minute.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
You have to dance now, Pluto, what are you doing here?
Means Pluto. Sorry one second, Pluto, what are you doing here?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Mercury? Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
You mean I have a planet, Pluto, You're not a planet.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
What are you talking about? It can be a planet.
If they want to be a planet, they can be
a planet.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I know, I know. Sorry, Okay, come back, come back, Pluto.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Mercury, stop hiding behind that Curry. Get back over here.
Oh you guys, Okay, great now the other planets are retrograding.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Get back is actually very important in your chart.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Pluto is the only one that's hearing now because Venus
is gone, Mercury is running around again.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
And Jus important for your art.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Jupiter, can you put on some clothing? Plutos those rings?
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Pluto is a planet of transformation, destruction, and renewal.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
So ring.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yes, yeah, has one giant ring. So Pluto is actually
very important for your chart because it actually shows you
also where you can find how somebody is gonna how
somebody's karma against you, how their karma is going to
manifest if they fuck with you with your Pluto sign.
(39:35):
And guess what my Pluto sign is in what I
think mine's in Scorpio?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
What's mine? What's mine?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yours is in Scorpio.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Maybe are dead okay, and this.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
My yeah, my Pluto is in scorpio, so pop don't process.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You don't have souls.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
People who cross says the karma is. That's why I
feel so secure and like I don't even have to
do anything. I don't have to. We could for sure
come out with some ship, but I'm not going to
do it because karma's got it. Jesus Selena. Selena is
a fight, but if she wanted to, she could. So
what which signs do we reject? That's what you put?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Which signs do we reject?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
You put JK ha ha JK. At the end of it, JK.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
The real question is how do the signs handle rejection?
That was your question? How do the sign rejection? Not good?
Not good vibes? No sign handles again.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, no sign. But I also will say that there's
two different versions. There's the high frequency, high vibrating way,
and there's the low frequency and low vibrating way, none
of none of which makes you a better person or
a worse person, just as a human kind of like
you know, there's so many things in our charts, and
there's so many things in our there's so many traits
(41:03):
that you know, we can only work on like one
at a time, ladies, one at a time.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
So I think aries handle rejection in the most childish way,
just because I think they're the first born in these
in the zodiac or the babies. So I think they
handle it in a way of a very like adolescent
way of handling rejection that's kind of like this, what
you do they need to be on your basketball team?
(41:31):
Are you thinking serious?
Speaker 4 (41:33):
No?
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I went go home. I want to go home. So
that's how virgos are, like, Yeah, virgos are like, uh,
you know, mother gothel When Rapunzel goes no, Prapunzel goes no,
she goes no. Oh Rapunzel knows best. Rapunzel's so mature.
(41:56):
Now that's those are virgos. You guys are like, oh.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Okay, yeah that's how I feel. I mean, look, I'm
still human, so I'll spiral. Of course I spire, and
I'm like, there's something around with me. Once I get
out of that spiral, I'm like, oh, it's because you're
probably like basic as fucking you are ready, you know,
might call myself the reckoning right once you get with me, Oh,
you're not ready to get with me, Like there's just.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Like, were you still like a wrestler? The reckoning?
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Oh you're not ready? I jump into the wind.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
You're yeah, you're what's you good with me? You're not ready?
Speaker 1 (42:33):
I mean literally, if you come look at my closet,
and then you go home and look at your closet,
you're gonna be.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Like, oh, my closet is a pile of clothes that
are almost at my where my belly button is. So
and I'm tall, so I'm the reckoning as well, bitch.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I just feel like people come into my life and
they're like, oh, oh shit, I have a lot of
things to do. I'm like, yeah, I mean so do I.
But anyways, what about like Pisces, cancers and scorpios. I
feel like.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Pisces won't the rejection song, but they won't actually believe
the rejection until you block them. But not even until then,
until you have a restraining order on them. Then they'll
be like, oh, there's I guess they don't like me anymore.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
I feel like Pisces WI would come out and get
their little ukulele and be like.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Wow, come for me, Come I have I have aries
and Pisces placements. So I'm very much both and what
I did both times that these men rejected me, What
did I do? I got on my little ukulele and
(43:48):
sang my little songs and it got me to where
I am.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Do you remember what I remember? When Lela was laying
on the floor and she's listening to Elvis and she's
looking up, She's like, leave me here to die. Yeah,
pic that's Pisces, and that's Scorpio for sure. And then cancers,
I feel like, are plot yeah something.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Cancers are like they are like, oh okay, I guess okay, fine,
Like they're they're definitely passive aggressive, but I say that
they're very pissed at first, but then they're gonna be
like they I feel like they go on a rampage.
I feel like they are the true like toddlers of
(44:32):
the zodiac. They act when they get upset or rejected.
I feel like they act like very very like they
throw a fit, and you don't want to be in
the wrath. You don't want to be in the wrath
of a cancer when they're mad, like you don't.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Cancers. I feel like all cancers all they want is
for you to go. I see that you have been hurt.
I see it and I understand and ize.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah. Well then they're like, oh I wasn't heard.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah fire signs. Sagittarius, they're gone.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
They're just like, yeah, satarious. They rejected you before you
even knew it. That's why you haven't seen them for
a month.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
I just think of Sagittarius as like hotter balloons.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
When they're done, they're done. They're done, They're done.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
And then I feel like, yeah, aries, we said aries
will be like aries are so emotional. Areas are so
like all the areas in my life are just because
they're so passionate. So they have a lot of emotions,
a lot of emotions. And then Leo, oh girl, you
don't reject the Leo, they reject you. Yeah I don't.
(45:53):
I don't know. Like leos are like, you don't get
to reject me, even if like they even if you
did reject the Leo, they will gas like the out
of the world and be like they just couldn't hang.
And that's what happened with the leos.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Yeah, they just can hang. Taurus. I feel like Taurus
can be vindictive, for sure. I've I've for sure rejected
some turists in my lifetime, and they get they get
very manipulative for sure, where they like, yeah, I've had
that where I'm like, well, go ahead and create whatever
(46:27):
fucking story you have about me, because that's the only
thing you have left about me, is not me, is
whatever story you have left in your head, And that's
the only thing that you have left in your head
because that's you don't have me, and so that's what
all you have.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
I did see years ago that tauruses are like, what
if they are in love, they like they will do
anything and everything to doe groups to get to you.
Like my mom knew she wanted my dad. He was like,
I don't know. She's like, no, I said what I said.
I said what I said, And you're my man for
the next forty six years. Oh no, let's do more
(47:04):
for the next seventy five years. We went there to
have a long life. Virgo. We already said.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Geminis Gemini is Libras Aquarius.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Well we've got, we've forgot Capricorn. Capricorns are gonna be
like capricords and somebody hit the lights.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
So yeah, and capricorns are literally able to transmute that
rejection from somebody or something into star power.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
I was gonna say, capricorns aren't even like you for real,
They're already like onto the next.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
So the low vibrating capricorns. Yeah, okay, fine, the low
vibrating capricorns because a lot of the capricorns in my
life that are very nice and kind and not bullies
are like, I know they like me. Yeah, sure, I
love them. As far as the air signs, I think
(47:57):
that Aquarius sometimes, I think they sometimes don't care genuinely.
I think Libras care too much. And I feel like
Geminis they are able also to transmute energy in a
(48:17):
different way, and you won't ever hear from them again,
like they are able to literally erase you from their database.
Who is that one Geminis?
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Oh? Really?
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Our kibot said, yes, our kibat is a Gemini. She said,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Oh, I feel like k Have you ever been in
love with the Virgo before? Yes? Okay, what was your
experience with the kibo? I mean, what was your experience
with the Virgo? Did you break or they broke your heart?
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Not dot dot dot dot good? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Who broke whose heart? Though?
Speaker 2 (49:02):
The Virgo? Your heart Oh, the vogel broke your heart,
you know, isn't that always the fucking way?
Speaker 1 (49:11):
So this is what I was gonna say. That, like
air signs are so like tutelou, but virgos have the
tutu lou attitude of the air signs, and we're just
like ruthless.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
The way I've been rejected by a virgo is like this.
They are able to validate all of my feelings, hear
me out, apologize and take accountability for what they have
done also, and then end it with a nice well,
you know, I don't. You're allowed to think whatever you
(49:44):
want of me, and that's that opinion is allowed to change.
I always root for you, I root for the best,
and you know, nothing can change that, and nothing can
change that. But that's it. And there's nothing about, well
did you answer my question of are you still in
love with me or not? They don't answer any of that.
It's it's like a it's like an email. It's like
(50:07):
a it's definitely like an email.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Vibe from HR Corporate.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Being rejected by bergos is like getting emailed by HR.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Keyboard and furthermore, thank you so much for your services.
But they will no longer be required sincerely virgo.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
And they're fired and you can't do anything about it
because they've already made up their mind. And you're like, okay,
so is there another position or is there no? You're
done for good? Okay, I'll check back in here, and
I do and there's still no position.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Oh my god. Well, anyway, that concludes our zodiac section. Maya.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Rejection is just it's a part of life. And I
really wish that these generations to come will take rejection
and being embarrassed and messing up and making mistakes more
lightly than like, it's not the end of the world,
and it is so necessary to it's it's like they're
(51:12):
like bumpers, the bumpers in our life, you know, like
when you go bowling and you bowl with the bumpers,
Like rejection is supposed to keep you on your right path.
And I think it's it's very important and they should
be honored a little bit. I think we should also
learn how to self soothe and have more compassion for
(51:32):
ourselves when we don't get what we want, and know
that what is meant for you will not miss you.
By God, guys, God is my witness. What is not meant,
what is meant for you good?
Speaker 1 (51:51):
What is What I always say is that if you
keep pouring into your cup, whether that's a little bit
of physical activity, mental health stuff, growing and trying to
reach a potential that you are comfortable with, I guarantee
that that rejection will inevitably feel like the person who
rejected you actually missed out. They will look at you
in some way or another and be like, I wonder
(52:13):
what my life would have been like with them. I
wonder what my job, my friendship would have been like
with them.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
What we're gonna say, Andy, you guys, listen to me
very closely. They always come back. They always, they will
always come back. So just keep it cute, keep it cute. Yeah,
don't double text, don't text them at all. If you
want to block them, you can block them. Know that
they will always come back because that's just what happens.
(52:42):
Do not occupy that space that they are for them
to come back. If you don't want them to come back,
that's fine, but they will always come back.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah, And I feel like, you know, rejection, at the
end of the day, it might not necessarily be something
that we can understand in the moment, but I do
believe that we also look back at some point and
go it could not have gone any other way, and
the way that it went was actually quite I don't know.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
If you guys know. In the last episode I talked
about the whole foot guy who wanted pictures of my foot.
He saw my message six minutes ago. Okay, cool, I
said five k five k foot babes.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
May I got a message in her DMS asking for
uh pictures respectfully?
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, and I said five k feet.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
Somebody asked me for mind. I was like, are you kidding?
I'll give you for free. I don't care, and I
sent him free photos.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Of No you did. You can find that on Wiki feet.
He can find you on Wiki feet anyway. Thank you
so much for listening to another episode of the Super
Secret Bestie Club podcast Curly. Where can they find you
on social media?
Speaker 1 (53:49):
These mo me, Oh my god, I cannot wait for
Renaissance to come out.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Okay, and I you you.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
We didn't talk about Beyonce's later songs, but we'll talk
about that next episode. Yes, you can find me on
social media at the Curly v Show, on Instagram and
TikTok Maya. Where can people find you on social media.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
You can find me at my moment, nyway, in the
moment anywhere you are on the internet. Thank you so
much again, We're coming back. You're bringing up says with us.
We would never reject you both rejecting you now because
we gotta go yeah, and.
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Amaya. How was your weekend?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I have a boyfriend, sir?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Huh are you feeling okay?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm saying no to your advances?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Sir? Oh my god, I'm so confused.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Are you confused about this? And that? Ladies and Gentlemen
Days in them? Is how you reject someone? Really? Are
you okay?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I get it here? Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Who wrote that?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
My name is Curly and I'm Maya And Welcome to
the Super Secret bestI Clubs Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
A super secret club where we talk about super secret things.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, like secrets that are super That's what it is.
In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreaks, men,
and of course our favorite secrets. Get in here.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Welcome back to another episode of the Super Secret Bestie
Club Podcast or How to Have You. Today's topic is rejection?
Is rejection protection or are we just making ourselves feel
better by saying that it's It's like rejection protection is
what is the You remember that song this is gonna
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daj Yeah, what's your function?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, rejections your protections?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Schoolhouse Rock, school House Rock, school House Rock.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, it's the condom of life that ain't bang bang wings.
How's your spirit? You tell me how's your spirit?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
My spirit's good. I am going to a little like
event tonight, hopefully, like I said this in the last
episode because we're recording on the same day. But oh
my god, I didn't sleep at all last night. Someone
was so freaking tired.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Just tonight for the first time, just about half past
and you're going.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
To I thought you're gonna sing tonight's the night from
high school musical.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Three.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Oh I've never watched anything in high school musical. Oh oh,
but it's a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I just you haven't.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Oh, yeah, that's right. How's your spirit?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
My spirit's good. Actually, I'm excited. I'm caffeinated. I'm super caffeinated.
And I also just ate an orange.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Hmmm. That's good.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You know, what is a new update for me? I'm
officially like a asthma inhaler person. So my doctor just
prescribed me an inhaler that I have to use twice
a day.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, because you that was scary what you had.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Said, how I couldn't breathe.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, I've always had asthma. It's always been seasonal, but
I've never had like not being able to breathe, like
like I had to be like breathe. I had to
tell myself to breathe like it doesn't come. You know,
he has asthma.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
He's asthmatic. He's asthmatic.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's kind of endearing to walk around with the inhalo
and go, I'm sorry, I can't read.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You should be dazzle it. We should decorate it. Put
it in all denim, a denim sleeve if you will.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Well, today's episode is about rejection and kind of like
the art, the arts of the rejection, the rejection.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
What's rejection of Spanish?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Uh? KABOUDI should we call you k b.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Or ai or ai by actual real human?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
K yeah, we say, is a real human?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
What's rejection in Spanish? Can you translate for us? Analyzing?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Now? Chasso chasso? Than I mean, look, how you been
rejected before? How do you feel about being rejected?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yes, rejection for me used to be really, really harsh,
and I think I still am working through. I'm also
working through words or things, so I'm eliminating struggle from
my vocabulary and difficult hard, I mean challenging whatever. I'm
really trying to be mindful. So if you hear me
doing that, that's what I'm doing. In my brain. I'm
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replacing words in real time.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I know.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I know how much more amazing can I get? Sorry, Yes, rejection.
Rejection sucks. Ass sucks, asshole, It sucks hard. It is
something that I used to be very very like fearful of,
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Like that was one of my biggest fears. And I
feel like now I'm working out of that kind of
like thing about rejection because I think the whole thing
about being embarrassed, Like I don't like being being embarrassed,
and I feel like I still have some feelings about
it that I'm working through for sure. What about you?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, I mean, look, I've rejected all the time. I
feel like I feel like I've been rejected my entire life,
and it's only up until recently that actually, you know,
I take that back. I've been rejected, I've been welcomed,
I've done, I've had all of it. So it's been
more I would say that I've been more rejected more
than i've been like taken in. So it's definitely been
like a learning lesson and something that has been kind
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of like a thing in my almost like a life
lesson that I had to learn in this life is
just like what it means to be rejected. What does
it mean to be rejected and what it doesn't mean
to be rejected, you know, and we can get into
that later, but like you know, getting rejected oftentimes just
means that it has to do more with what the
person is looking for. It just means what it has
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to do with like time and place right, it has
to do with what somebody is looking for in terms
of an assistant, or who to hire, who to bring
on the team, or what someone is looking for at
that moment in terms of who they want to date.
Like there was a time when I wanted to just
date DJs. I was like, I really want to date
a DJ, go to all the parties, want toographer.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
You want to date a DJ?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
And Douche that's amazing, And Douche get it for my
latest single, Douche, thank.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
You to play while you Douche.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You're just like leaving a mess on every stage across
the globe. But like I feel as if, yeah, I mean,
even that changes. So I do feel like, yes, it's
hurt me and it's been something that I've dealt with,
but it's part of I believe what makes a well
rounded individual if they can actually look back and be
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kind of and understand that the rejections had to happen
in order to get them where they are today.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Would you say that the rejection is protection or do
we j say that to make ourselves feel better.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I think it's a bit of both, if I'm honest.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, honest of both, because you don't know, you don't know,
like there have been have you had moments. I've definitely
had moments that are like, oh, man, rejection is protection
from people from career. Like I let's get into that
a little bit. Like when it comes to career and stuff.
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There was a couple of auditions, a couple of things
that I auditioned for that ended up coming out and
got a lot of backlash on and I was like,
can you imagine if I was attached to that certain show,
like it just wouldn't have been it would it would
not been a good look girl. But then there's other things,
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and I'm like, you know, like I auditioned for I
Carly I think early twenty twenty one, and like I
didn't get it and I was so sad. And it
wasn't a rejection as protection thing because the series is
really good, although they got canceled out of the like
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the height of like the storyline. So that was a
little bit hard because I was like, you know, I
really really wanted it. But every single rejection comes with
a lesson and something that you need to like do. So,
like for the Ikari audition thing, I'm like, I would
love to get into class and take acting classes. So
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that was my first time getting into acting classes was
because of that audition, because I was like, I want
to be more prepared, and I think with this other
this Disney show that I auditioned for, I didn't have
a manager at the time, and that made me want
to get a manager, you know. So there were different
like rejection things that happened in my career. I mean
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there's a lot more. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot more.
But that's just like kind of do you find with
like in your career that you've seen these rejections, but
you kind of get the lesson after. The lessons are
always sweet after.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, There's been a lot of jobs that I'm like
to him that would be really dope, that would be
really sick. You know. I was up to host a
gig for Quibi and there was talks about me moving
to Miami and doing that. That didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Everyone was talking about it.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I mean, Quibi went out of business, so it's kind
of like, oh shit, like then what happens? You know
what I mean? It still been really cool. I auditioned
for a lot of shows that I think would have
been really dope. I auditioned for Primos, and the guy
that got the job is phenomenal and amazing, But I
also think like, what would have been like had the
character been a fun gig guy, you know, yeah, and
I didn't get that part. I've auditioned for so many
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things that I've been like, you know, I audition for
Fire Island and the Car. The person that got it
was a little bit more flamboyant, and I thought, like
that person absolutely deserves to be seen and.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Heard right right, Like you're like, okay, that makes sense,
Like I see what they were looking for. It wasn't
necessarily like your look or your vibe. It was that
it's not.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, And I do that all the time, right, Like
I go into places and I'm like, look, I'm not
a mean I'm not a mean gay. You're not going
to get me and gay sound bites out of me.
So if you want someone chill who has more like
chill primo vibes cool, But if you want me to
be mean and talk shit to especially women or other guys,
like I'm not going to be that, Like what are
you talking something? Whatever? Anyway, sometimes I could be playful,
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but that's you're just not go I am.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
But yeah, you're not a stereotype.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, and I will say that. Like, you know, before
I got to Buzz Speed, which was kind of like
the where things really popped off for me, I was
trying to get jobs everywhere, like I was just like
just I was broke. I was a broke artist. I
smelled like pee because I hated to shower. I didn't
wear underwear. I didn't care about it. I was dirty,
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like my room was dirty, my car was dirty, my
kulo was dirty. I didn't give a fuck. Like and
when I remember, I wanted this job at Hope Look
Oh Look, which was like a website off of like
for like Norange drums or something, and you could be
a stylist, you know, like the it was like photographers, cameras,
models clothes, and you basically have to dress the models
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for like their catalog on the website, and I wanted
to work there so badly, and I remember them going,
you just left, David la Chapelle and Jeremy Scott, why
do you want to work here? You're like almost too
like ahead to work here, like to like too overqualify.
And I was like, I need a job, Like I'm
seriously so fucking broke. I need a job. And they
didn't hire me. And I wanted to work there so badly.
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And one step and one thing, one step and one
misstep took me to BuzzFeed, which then I went out
of fashion because I was just working in digital and
that became where I was. You know what really helped
my entire life and the life of the people around me.
And it's rippled in a lot of different ways too.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But I will say that your fashion background heavily influenced
Fettle like and your work and your image and everything,
like for sure, like I feel like it gave you
an it gave you an edge where it was like
you know, like when it came to concept and like
aesthetics for the brand, like you and Age always had.
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You guys were cooking up something beautiful and there's like
an artistry to it that everyone was in such a
digital mindset that you guys were looking at like bigger picture,
you know, which I think is like kind of cool
that these things that we see have rejected us, or
that maybe we thought like, oh, you know, maybe I'm
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not meant for this anymore. Like I guess that, like
there's a reason for everything, you know, Like that's why
it's so complex when it comes to jobs and our
career and the things that we love to do. Because
I'm very much like all over the place. I love
to sing, I love to make videos, I love to write,
I love to act, I love to direct, like all
this stuff, and it feels like it's all over the place.
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So like I had auditioned for like this Broadway thing
this past summer last year, and I didn't get it,
and I was so devastated, But I had also had
compassion for myself that I was like, at least you
did it number one and number two, you are not
You've never trained classically or professionally like these other people have,
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who this is their entire life is musical theater, they know,
And so I felt kind of like that rejection was
like an unnecessary rejection because I should have been in
class all of these years, and I should have been
doing this and that. But it's also like you can't
kind of like, uh, you can't be so hard on
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your journey or yourself because we don't know where we're
gonna end up. You know, we don't know where we're
gonna land. But these kind of like quote unquote rejections
I feel like, are the biggest influence in our lives.
That kind of jumpstart and I feel like it's like
the oh, like the roller coaster. Yes, it's like that,
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you know, it's it like launches us into this other
realm of like, you know, Okay, the worst thing that
I thought was gonna happen happened. I didn't get it.
Now the fuck what.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
The other part of that, too, I will say, is
that you know, through chance, actually through opportunity and through rejection,
you forget about like chance, right, you forget that like
there will be some people who have never trained and
get it, and that also it's just it's just meant
for them, right, Like, yes, we hear stories about people
who are like I've never acted a day in my
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life and they get apart some other and yeah, yeah,
that alshow that also should take off the pressure off
of you too, right off of us as well, to
be like, when it's meant for you, it's meant it
clearly will be meant for you.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
What is meant for you will not miss you exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So you know, it's kind of like those things where
I go, Damn, I didn't get into fashion. I remember
when I worked in fashion. I was making five hundred
dollars a month a month, working insane hours, and I
love how you go, wows if you didn't know that
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I didn't know that you're making five hundred a month.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna give you my best friend for
seventeen thousand years now working five a month, and you know,
and now you know, working in digital, that's not the case, right,
Like like we also kind of can get to be
our own bosses in a lot of ways and a
lot of times when when things are really good, and
so it's like this thing where you go like everything
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is playing into itself. So it's the rejection. It's almost
like like your water and you're moving through the world
and when one wall, one door closes, you flow a
different way. And if another door just so happens to
be over at the exact same time. What a wonderful
place you'll find yourself yourself in just like we did
five years ago when we were getting on stage. I
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better like.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Because I feel like we only have a certain amount
of control. And I when I now my issue or
the way I deal with rejection with career, is that
I'm like God willing, like whoever universe Selena, if it's
meant for me, My God is Selena. My She's my
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Cretian angel. I don't know Selene and Kipania if you guys,
Oh wait, I'm sorry, sorry, I'm talking right now. Sorry
you interrupting me again.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Selena said she doesn't know yet. Okay, by Selena, thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
That's funny because she actually told me about the She
has a restraining order against you, so a spiritual restraining
order against you. So that's kind of funny that you
would call her because you just violated it right now.
So anyway, as I was saying, you know, whatever my
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path is up to, I'm not I cannot see what
is fully meant for me. I can only go where
my spirit is led. And if my if this I'm
not led to this thing that I really, really, really
wanted like then, I have to let it go. It's
rejection is about letting. It's teaching you how to let
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it go. And like you say, like you said right now,
flowing like water. My mom also says to float, like
float above it, float above it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah. I always say, like here the river brought you.
It is here the river meant.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
And I always say, should I choose the smoothest course?
You know I'm married? Wait, coco oh, my chream hats intense? Oh?
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I like, can you say it?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
How do I say it? Or do now? What's the
line that I sing usually?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Or do you still yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Or do you still do yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Cocohona is the auto tune? You know. Look, I think
rejection will bleed into other areas of your life that
will be equally as painful. We get hurt when we
get turned down for careers and job opportunities that we
were wishing for and hoping for accolades, that we sit
back and wait for somebody to notice us. We don't
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win awards, you know Beyonce of movie and we're still
waiting and we're still great, right, And that can bleed
into love, like love in relationships. I had this one boyfriend,
beautiful human being, truly like a beautiful soul that I
had known for a very long time in my twenties,
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and I really wanted to get with him, Like I
was like, I would look at him and go, we're
we are perfect together. I know that we are perfect together.
And for years he rejected me. He said no, no, no,
no, no no. And then when he finally said yes, I
had a lot of like residual trauma about having been
rejected for so long, which is an actually pretty common
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with a lot of people and a lot of couples.
Some couples have that with sex. Some couples have that
with like you know, I've been so kind to you
for all these years, and now you want to be
nice to me, and I'm over right like it's normal.
But I actually couldn't work myself out of that feeling.
I stayed stuck in that rejection, and ultimately it led
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to the demise of the relationship. I just couldn't break
free of what that rejection felt like and how it
continues to resonate.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Love is hard. Love is is definitely I'm like, I'm like,
I'm trying to like work out my words, but I'm like, girl,
love is hard, and Jesus and Selena and God would
agree with me too, girl, like it is. It's complex.
It's complex because, like I think, rejection takes a different
form in your brain. It's a different sector of your
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brain when it comes to rejection because it's it feels more,
it feels deeper, and it feels personal because at least
with the career stuff, you can you can kind of
like say, okay, well, yeah, I didn't warm up today,
or I didn't like show up, I didn't get a
full night's sleep or something. When it comes to love,
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you're kind of like you're displaying all of your attributes
and your like your heart, and they basically are like
return back to sender and you get your heart yea
in this like like JANKI like package and you're like,
who said they sent me back my heart?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah? I mean, look, even before you get into relationships,
right like, and somebody rejects you, but also the feeling
of being in a relationship and somebody breaks up with you,
right like, that deep feeling of feeling rejected to some
extent by somebody then who you actually did fall in
love with, by somebody that you did actually build a
home and a life with suddenly rejecting you and deciding
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that they are a life that doesn't include you, and
that will totally bring up different emotions to the surface
of feeling inadequate or feeling like you're not good like
you know, you're not good enough, you're inadequate, and so
that is a whole nother thing. So but I think
it's kind of just like the risk. I would much
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rather love and love again and get hurt because that's
how and grief over the love, because that's how I
know that I was really essentially sad. But that's how
you know that you are felt something.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
If your yeah, yeah, that you really like loved, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Know like that they are like that that. I forget
who said it, but he said, grief is the price
you pay for loving something, and the only way to
grieve is to grief. So the only way to get
past grief is to grief.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I think it comes to rejection too when we do
get rejected when it comes to love, like we go
down on the list of like, yeah, I guess you
make assumptions. I think rejection assumptions go hand in hand
because you're making assumptions that oh, they rejected me, probably
because insert insecurity you've had your entire life, like, oh,
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they probably rejected me because insert another insecurity that you
got from the last relationship. You know, like there's a
sense of grounding that is super super needed when it
comes to this kind of stuff, because you can spiral,
you can lose yourself, you know, into why am I
not good for you? Why am I not good enough
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for this person? Versus was this person actually good enough
for me? Or how did I feel in this relationship?
Do I want someone who is constantly unsure about me?
You know, Like that's the type of thing I struggled
with so hard in the past. Is like going outward
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and asking those questions more so of like how can
I be good enough for them? What did I do?
What didn't I do? What is actually their type? And
you lose yourself in that because you're giving up your power,
not that not power in the sense of ego, but
there's ego behind it, for sure, but you definitely you
you you have to come back to yourself after that,
and it's harder to come back to yourself because you
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like had put all of your kind of like weight
and in love into their hands and they dropped it,
they don't want it, and you have to pick yourself
up back up again.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, but then it kind of becomes an interesting thing too,
because if you go they didn't want me right like
that all socials language, that's really not good. Like they
left me, they rejected me. Like you kind of have
to also try to change your perspective in terms of
like what may have actually happened. We weren't aligned and.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
We don't know either, we'll never fully know.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, Like you know, there have been so many guys
that I'm like, oh, I there's no reason why it
didn't work out for us. It's not that I rejected them.
It's just like, you know, maybe this chemistry wasn't there,
or maybe like I was kind of really trying really
hard to bring up conversation and I just felt like,
I feel like we're going to argue more than we're
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going to get along, like and it might doesn't mean
that they're not beautiful or handsome or worthy of being
in a relationship, but it just is like it's just
not something that I necessarily vibe hard enough to get with.
I will say this life, you will inevitably be rejected
and love. It is inevitable that will happen, and it's
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it's like, just go with it. Just go with it.
I promise you. Thousands of people, millions of people, for
thousands of years have survived this feeling. It feels, it
feels terrible to do it, but you will get up again.
You will love again. The feeling that you feel with
somebody when you're in love is not unique to the individual.
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Although it's rare, it's not unique. So definitely, you know,
keep going.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
What about in friendships, Yeah, I feel like in friendships
I've had a lot of rejection when it comes to
like at BuzzFeed. When I first got to BuzzFeed, like
besides you, like nobody really was interested. Everyone was very
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much consumed with like the low morale that was going on,
like Jenny Lorenzo had just been fired. Everyone was really sad.
I came in like you know, bouncing baby girl, like hey,
if you came he your friend, and I feel like
I got like the door slammed in my face because
everyone was just kind of like, you know, I was
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the underdog for sure, for sure for sure, And then
it was one of those things where I was like
I'm gonna make you love me. You guys are gonna
love me by the month two and man, love me,
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love me? Yeah, and they did, and it felt what good?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Oh no, you said it because you when you first
said it, you sang it when we were talking about it,
you sang it. And then you said and they.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Did and they did and they did. But it was
I felt so much rejection because I was looking for community.
I was alone, and it was very hard not to
get in my head of like, maybe I am a
piece of shit, Maybe I am the most annoying girl
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in the entire world, and I don't deserve to be here.
But it was one of those things where you really
had to be like secure in yourself of like and
even in like friendships nowadays, where I'm like, I know
I'm a good friend. I like even if, like I
get into a fight with one of my friends or whatever,
I know that we will do whatever we can. If
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the other person is can communicate as well or take accountability,
I know I'm able to do that. I know I'm
a good friend, and I'm secure at myself when it
comes to that and it happens, if it happens to
be that this person doesn't want to be as close
to me anymore or my friend anymore. I'm not gonna
hold you tight. I'm not gonna hold you. I'm not
gonna hold you down. I'm not gonnatain you too. I'm
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not gonna handcuff you to myself. I'm gonna let it.
I'm gonna let it do what it needs to do.
I'm gonna let it breathe. Because I think when it
comes to rejection as well, like with friendships, and it
feels like somebody's moving away, like that can feel like
a silent rejection where all the alarms go on go
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off in your head when you see them hanging out
with new people more than you that you necessarily like,
don't know or don't like or have no idea about.
You want to go straight to your that mode where
you're like, okay, Like I had this friend who's always
like are you mad at me? You're hanging out with
this other person all the time, Like are they replacing me?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Like?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
We were friends, girl, we were friends, like, and they
wanted to hold so tight onto our friendship. And that
taught me like this is how it feels when you
hold tight onto somebody else, Like it feels suffocating, and
it makes them want to reject you as well. So
like chill, let it flow, Let it flow.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Well, I think the beauty with friendships I just heard
somebody say the other day is that people don't give
as much weight to friendships as they should. They're actually
some of the longest relationships you will have in your
entire life outside of romantic relationships, and so being able
to communicate with people who are taking up those spaces
in your life is super important and very okay, you know,
(29:56):
I feel like, you know, I've also been rejected in
a lot of areas, Like when I first started at BuzzFeed,
I always say that it was Quinta. I would say,
Andrew Gautier, Quinta and Dasha were the first three people
who were like super kind to me, super like, you know,
and and you know, I kept going out like Sam
uh Sam, I think her last name. I don't know
(30:17):
what Sam's last name is now, but Sam Gordon really
took me under her wing. She was like the president's
assistant at the time, and just like a lot of
other people, started to trickle in eventually too right. But
even in high school, I just ran into some high
school friends and I was saying, how I we were
(30:38):
missed steps style this PDN though. I was saying bye
to somebody, and when I turned around, my high school
friends had gotten into an elevator and left without me.
Mind you, I'm in my thirties now, right, Like that
should not be something that I noticed, but I noticed it.
I was like, Oh, that's so weird that they wouldn't
wait for me. The next day, I saw them again,
and I saw there was a girl that I knew
(31:01):
in high school, and I waited for her to finish
doing what she was doing, and she looked at me
and she goes, thank you for waiting for me, And
I'm like, duh, that's what you do. You wait for people.
You kind of you let them go through the door
before you. You say thank you and please, you know,
like there's a lot of things, and so in high school,
I remember thinking like, this is why I don't fuck
with people in the valley. This is why I'm gonna
(31:22):
go hang out with the girls in Hollywood. This is
why I only fuck with LA kids because LA kids
keep it real and we're and this is why I
hang with like people of color, because we're taught a
certain type of way, and so I was very angry
in high school, and I was kind of like a
bitchy gay guy because I would be like just annoyed,
and I never and I still don't feel like I'm
part of the group when I hang out with them.
(31:43):
There are a few that I do feel okay with,
but I always feel like an outsider. But this time
I kind of took it as like, instead of it
being a rejection, it was an opportunity for me to go, Oh,
I see how I was raised. Oh I see what
my culture has given me, whether that's being Latino, whether
that's being queer, whether that's being somebody who is a
little bit more feminine. I can see what my life
(32:04):
has done to me. And my life tells me to wait,
to welcome people, to be kind and to be warm.
And so when somebody out there can't do that and
they've rejected that, or they've treated me differently, or they're
blocking me and blocking our friendship, that says more about
them than it does about me, because I'm showing up
in the best place that I can and the best
(32:26):
way that I can, which is always through love. So
you know, I ended up leaving there and being like
tu to Lou, I'm sorry, No, it's fine. I got
in my luxury vehicle and fucking drove down the freeway.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I know it feels so ugly because you go back
into this version of yourself when you didn't have any
boundaries and it was normal for you, and you felt
horrible like that was kind of the norm. And then
now that you're older, you're able to, like you said,
get your luck street car and zoom zoo, bitch.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
That's right. And I will say that part of not
being included in that group, and part of not being
included in certain areas and being a part of the
norm forces you to be part of the counterculture, forces
you to lean into more of who you are, more
of doing your own thing and being able to be
who I am in the space and the lane that
I live in has always afforded me greater opportunities and
(33:24):
opened more doors. So if it meant being rejected by them,
by the way, no tea, no shade to them. They're
amazing people in the super Sweeden. I'm sure they love me,
and I'm out here being all hurt because they don't
in the elevator for me, But like you know, there
was a time where I was like, you guys are
still playing beer pong, aren't we going to get like
a good messca at this point, like chill out, get
a glass of wine, baby girl like beer sure, beer pong, spine.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I don't do beer pong. I do not do I've
never done beer pong. I don't ever want to do
beer pong. It's it's anxiety inducing for me.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Don't people know that your breath stinks like on beer?
But okay, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I don't really drink beer either. But and I think
it's also about having a I don't want to say
collection as if you're collecting, but a collective that have
their own journey with their security and their own friendship
what they provide as a friend in their own they
(34:20):
have their own secure boundaries. They have also been raised
in a similar way of not just being racist, just
common courtesy. You know, it's common like, oh, you know what,
the one time there was like these two girls hugging
in front of me, memory told you, And one of
the girls had their back to me for a long time,
and I was trying to say hi to both of them,
(34:41):
and they would not stop hugging, and I was like hi,
Like it wasn't like I was spoiling a moment. I
was talking to one girl and then the other girl
came up behind me and totally like attack hugged the
girl that I was talking to. And I knew this
other girl, and it was a long time that they
were hugging, and I was like, oh hi, you know,
I felt like a nerd was like hi you guys, Hey, Hi,
(35:03):
like rubbing her back, like being like hey guys, like
I was just talking to her. And then so I
it was so fucking awkward that people around me felt
bad and started talking to me. And I left, and
the moment that I left, they all noticed that, like, oh,
Maya left. They were like oh Maya. Hi. You know,
it just felt like that's rude to me, Like that's
(35:23):
some mean girl shit.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Literally, like the first thing I do. When let's say,
I see you talking to somebody right or like the
first and they're busy, I'll be like, oh my god, Hi,
I'm like, oh my god, to interrupt this conversation. So
I'm sorry. I'll hug you, give you love, turn to
the person next to you and go hi, nice to
thank you. My name is so and so how are you. Yeah,
I just wanted to say hi, I apologize for interrupting.
Have a great eving. Guys, that is like a fucking adult.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And these people are performers, and the number one rule
of theater is you never turn your back on the audience.
You never had your back on anyone like you turn
your back on when it's so fucking rude, like you know,
And so it felt to me like they're comfortable literally
excluding me, ignoring me from this thing, and it felt
(36:09):
so ugly. I was in a mood the entire time.
What felt even uglier was that other people. Yeah, other
people saw it and acknowledged it and started talking to
me because they felt so bad, you know. And it
just is like we talk about women empowerment and all
this shit. Then I'm like, that's how you actually act
towards a woman, Like I don't believe any of that shit.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, And I know also that some people look people
have their moments sometimes we don't notice, but in other instances,
(36:54):
I've always said, when you come to say hi to
me at a table or I'm sitting, I will always
stand up, always turn my body towards you. I will
always make eye contact. But again it goes back to
how where you raised? What are your values? When somebody
is experiencing you or in your aura or in your
orbit right like you know this like there's not a
(37:14):
single person, or maybe there's some and it's probably like
a misstep. That wouldn't that would say, like when I
come to curly, like I will turn and talk to
them and make like full ass eye contact. So when
other people don't do that and they're in their own
little world they're doing whatever, I'm like, you know, we're
all we're all not gifted. It's fine. We all have
our we all have our strengths, and yours is being
(37:35):
a cunt, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
And it also is like a higher self for me
is I'm like, maybe they were truly caught up in
a moment where they you know, you're like seeing this
friend that you whatever. Just I'm just so fucking tired
of all this, like you know, I don't know that's
that's another episode for another day. But let's astrology portion
(38:04):
of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Cue the planets, we can we planets planets getting give
my get in my good minute.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
You have to dance now, Pluto, what are you doing here?
Means Pluto. Sorry one second, Pluto, what are you doing here?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Mercury? Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
You mean I have a planet, Pluto, You're not a planet.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
What are you talking about? It can be a planet.
If they want to be a planet, they can be
a planet.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I know, I know. Sorry, Okay, come back, come back, Pluto.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Mercury, stop hiding behind that Curry. Get back over here.
Oh you guys, Okay, great now the other planets are retrograding.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Get back is actually very important in your chart.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Pluto is the only one that's hearing now because Venus
is gone, Mercury is running around again.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
And Jus important for your art.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Jupiter, can you put on some clothing? Plutos those rings?
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Pluto is a planet of transformation, destruction, and renewal.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
So ring.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yes, yeah, has one giant ring. So Pluto is actually
very important for your chart because it actually shows you
also where you can find how somebody is gonna how
somebody's karma against you, how their karma is going to
manifest if they fuck with you with your Pluto sign.
(39:35):
And guess what my Pluto sign is in what I
think mine's in Scorpio?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
What's mine? What's mine?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yours is in Scorpio.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Maybe are dead okay, and this.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
My yeah, my Pluto is in scorpio, so pop don't process.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You don't have souls.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
People who cross says the karma is. That's why I
feel so secure and like I don't even have to
do anything. I don't have to. We could for sure
come out with some ship, but I'm not going to
do it because karma's got it. Jesus Selena. Selena is
a fight, but if she wanted to, she could. So
what which signs do we reject? That's what you put?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Which signs do we reject?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
You put JK ha ha JK. At the end of it, JK.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
The real question is how do the signs handle rejection?
That was your question? How do the sign rejection? Not good?
Not good vibes? No sign handles again.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, no sign. But I also will say that there's
two different versions. There's the high frequency, high vibrating way,
and there's the low frequency and low vibrating way, none
of none of which makes you a better person or
a worse person, just as a human kind of like
you know, there's so many things in our charts, and
there's so many things in our there's so many traits
(41:03):
that you know, we can only work on like one
at a time, ladies, one at a time.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
So I think aries handle rejection in the most childish way,
just because I think they're the first born in these
in the zodiac or the babies. So I think they
handle it in a way of a very like adolescent
way of handling rejection that's kind of like this, what
you do they need to be on your basketball team?
(41:31):
Are you thinking serious?
Speaker 4 (41:33):
No?
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I went go home. I want to go home. So
that's how virgos are, like, Yeah, virgos are like, uh,
you know, mother gothel When Rapunzel goes no, Prapunzel goes no,
she goes no. Oh Rapunzel knows best. Rapunzel's so mature.
(41:56):
Now that's those are virgos. You guys are like, oh.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Okay, yeah that's how I feel. I mean, look, I'm
still human, so I'll spiral. Of course I spire, and
I'm like, there's something around with me. Once I get
out of that spiral, I'm like, oh, it's because you're
probably like basic as fucking you are ready, you know,
might call myself the reckoning right once you get with me, Oh,
you're not ready to get with me, Like there's just.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Like, were you still like a wrestler? The reckoning?
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Oh you're not ready? I jump into the wind.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
You're yeah, you're what's you good with me? You're not ready?
Speaker 1 (42:33):
I mean literally, if you come look at my closet,
and then you go home and look at your closet,
you're gonna be.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Like, oh, my closet is a pile of clothes that
are almost at my where my belly button is. So
and I'm tall, so I'm the reckoning as well, bitch.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I just feel like people come into my life and
they're like, oh, oh shit, I have a lot of
things to do. I'm like, yeah, I mean so do I.
But anyways, what about like Pisces, cancers and scorpios. I
feel like.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Pisces won't the rejection song, but they won't actually believe
the rejection until you block them. But not even until then,
until you have a restraining order on them. Then they'll
be like, oh, there's I guess they don't like me anymore.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
I feel like Pisces WI would come out and get
their little ukulele and be like.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Wow, come for me, Come I have I have aries
and Pisces placements. So I'm very much both and what
I did both times that these men rejected me, What
did I do? I got on my little ukulele and
(43:48):
sang my little songs and it got me to where
I am.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Do you remember what I remember? When Lela was laying
on the floor and she's listening to Elvis and she's
looking up, She's like, leave me here to die. Yeah,
pic that's Pisces, and that's Scorpio for sure. And then cancers,
I feel like, are plot yeah something.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Cancers are like they are like, oh okay, I guess okay, fine,
Like they're they're definitely passive aggressive, but I say that
they're very pissed at first, but then they're gonna be
like they I feel like they go on a rampage.
I feel like they are the true like toddlers of
(44:32):
the zodiac. They act when they get upset or rejected.
I feel like they act like very very like they
throw a fit, and you don't want to be in
the wrath. You don't want to be in the wrath
of a cancer when they're mad, like you don't.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Cancers. I feel like all cancers all they want is
for you to go. I see that you have been hurt.
I see it and I understand and ize.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah. Well then they're like, oh I wasn't heard.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah fire signs. Sagittarius, they're gone.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
They're just like, yeah, satarious. They rejected you before you
even knew it. That's why you haven't seen them for
a month.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
I just think of Sagittarius as like hotter balloons.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
When they're done, they're done. They're done, They're done.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
And then I feel like, yeah, aries, we said aries
will be like aries are so emotional. Areas are so
like all the areas in my life are just because
they're so passionate. So they have a lot of emotions,
a lot of emotions. And then Leo, oh girl, you
don't reject the Leo, they reject you. Yeah I don't.
(45:53):
I don't know. Like leos are like, you don't get
to reject me, even if like they even if you
did reject the Leo, they will gas like the out
of the world and be like they just couldn't hang.
And that's what happened with the leos.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Yeah, they just can hang. Taurus. I feel like Taurus
can be vindictive, for sure. I've I've for sure rejected
some turists in my lifetime, and they get they get
very manipulative for sure, where they like, yeah, I've had
that where I'm like, well, go ahead and create whatever
(46:27):
fucking story you have about me, because that's the only
thing you have left about me, is not me, is
whatever story you have left in your head, And that's
the only thing that you have left in your head
because that's you don't have me, and so that's what
all you have.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
I did see years ago that tauruses are like, what
if they are in love, they like they will do
anything and everything to doe groups to get to you.
Like my mom knew she wanted my dad. He was like,
I don't know. She's like, no, I said what I said.
I said what I said, And you're my man for
the next forty six years. Oh no, let's do more
(47:04):
for the next seventy five years. We went there to
have a long life. Virgo. We already said.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Geminis Gemini is Libras Aquarius.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Well we've got, we've forgot Capricorn. Capricorns are gonna be
like capricords and somebody hit the lights.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
So yeah, and capricorns are literally able to transmute that
rejection from somebody or something into star power.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
I was gonna say, capricorns aren't even like you for real,
They're already like onto the next.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
So the low vibrating capricorns. Yeah, okay, fine, the low
vibrating capricorns because a lot of the capricorns in my
life that are very nice and kind and not bullies
are like, I know they like me. Yeah, sure, I
love them. As far as the air signs, I think
(47:57):
that Aquarius sometimes, I think they sometimes don't care genuinely.
I think Libras care too much. And I feel like
Geminis they are able also to transmute energy in a
(48:17):
different way, and you won't ever hear from them again,
like they are able to literally erase you from their database.
Who is that one Geminis?
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Oh? Really?
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Our kibot said, yes, our kibat is a Gemini. She said,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Oh, I feel like k Have you ever been in
love with the Virgo before? Yes? Okay, what was your
experience with the kibo? I mean, what was your experience
with the Virgo? Did you break or they broke your heart?
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Not dot dot dot dot good? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Who broke whose heart? Though?
Speaker 2 (49:02):
The Virgo? Your heart Oh, the vogel broke your heart,
you know, isn't that always the fucking way?
Speaker 1 (49:11):
So this is what I was gonna say. That, like
air signs are so like tutelou, but virgos have the
tutu lou attitude of the air signs, and we're just
like ruthless.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
The way I've been rejected by a virgo is like this.
They are able to validate all of my feelings, hear
me out, apologize and take accountability for what they have
done also, and then end it with a nice well,
you know, I don't. You're allowed to think whatever you
(49:44):
want of me, and that's that opinion is allowed to change.
I always root for you, I root for the best,
and you know, nothing can change that, and nothing can
change that. But that's it. And there's nothing about, well
did you answer my question of are you still in
love with me or not? They don't answer any of that.
It's it's like a it's like an email. It's like
(50:07):
a it's definitely like an email.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Vibe from HR Corporate.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Being rejected by bergos is like getting emailed by HR.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Keyboard and furthermore, thank you so much for your services.
But they will no longer be required sincerely virgo.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
And they're fired and you can't do anything about it
because they've already made up their mind. And you're like, okay,
so is there another position or is there no? You're
done for good? Okay, I'll check back in here, and
I do and there's still no position.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Oh my god. Well, anyway, that concludes our zodiac section. Maya.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Rejection is just it's a part of life. And I
really wish that these generations to come will take rejection
and being embarrassed and messing up and making mistakes more
lightly than like, it's not the end of the world,
and it is so necessary to it's it's like they're
(51:12):
like bumpers, the bumpers in our life, you know, like
when you go bowling and you bowl with the bumpers,
Like rejection is supposed to keep you on your right path.
And I think it's it's very important and they should
be honored a little bit. I think we should also
learn how to self soothe and have more compassion for
(51:32):
ourselves when we don't get what we want, and know
that what is meant for you will not miss you.
By God, guys, God is my witness. What is not meant,
what is meant for you good?
Speaker 1 (51:51):
What is What I always say is that if you
keep pouring into your cup, whether that's a little bit
of physical activity, mental health stuff, growing and trying to
reach a potential that you are comfortable with, I guarantee
that that rejection will inevitably feel like the person who
rejected you actually missed out. They will look at you
in some way or another and be like, I wonder
(52:13):
what my life would have been like with them. I
wonder what my job, my friendship would have been like
with them.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
What we're gonna say, Andy, you guys, listen to me
very closely. They always come back. They always, they will
always come back. So just keep it cute, keep it cute. Yeah,
don't double text, don't text them at all. If you
want to block them, you can block them. Know that
they will always come back because that's just what happens.
(52:42):
Do not occupy that space that they are for them
to come back. If you don't want them to come back,
that's fine, but they will always come back.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah, And I feel like, you know, rejection, at the
end of the day, it might not necessarily be something
that we can understand in the moment, but I do
believe that we also look back at some point and
go it could not have gone any other way, and
the way that it went was actually quite I don't know.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
If you guys know. In the last episode I talked
about the whole foot guy who wanted pictures of my foot.
He saw my message six minutes ago. Okay, cool, I
said five k five k foot babes.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
May I got a message in her DMS asking for
uh pictures respectfully?
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, and I said five k feet.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
Somebody asked me for mind. I was like, are you kidding?
I'll give you for free. I don't care, and I
sent him free photos.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Of No you did. You can find that on Wiki feet.
He can find you on Wiki feet anyway. Thank you
so much for listening to another episode of the Super
Secret Bestie Club podcast Curly. Where can they find you
on social media?
Speaker 1 (53:49):
These mo me, Oh my god, I cannot wait for
Renaissance to come out.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Okay, and I you you.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
We didn't talk about Beyonce's later songs, but we'll talk
about that next episode. Yes, you can find me on
social media at the Curly v Show, on Instagram and
TikTok Maya. Where can people find you on social media.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
You can find me at my moment, nyway, in the
moment anywhere you are on the internet. Thank you so
much again, We're coming back. You're bringing up says with us.
We would never reject you both rejecting you now because
we gotta go yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
We won't sock you in the neck like Maya sock
me in the neck.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
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us know what you want to listen to. We want
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Speaker 3 (54:37):
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