June 26, 2024 • 54 mins
Our hosts talk about the type of besties we encounter in life and how they help us to get through it with their own special characteristics!
Maya Murillo and Curly Velásquez are the hosts of the Super Secret Bestie Club with production support by Karina Riveroll of Sonoro Media in partnership with iHeart Radio's My Cultura Podcast network. If you want to support the podcast, please rate and review our show!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What should you do for the intro? What type of
bestie are you?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
What about? Like, well, Maya, we hit our blah blah
blah year friendship.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Oh how many years has it been?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
When did you start buzzpeeding?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Twenty sixteen?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh wow, wait eight years?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
That's an entire eight year old That is an eight
year old child. Curly, we're recording.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh oh hi, get in here. My name is Curly
and I'm Maya, and welcome to the Super Secret bestI
Club Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
A super secret club where we talk about super secret things.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, like secrets that are super That's what it is.
In each episode we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreaks, men,
and of course our favorite secrets. Get in here? Could
you get in here?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And Welcome to another episode of the Super Secret Bestie
Club Podcast with your host Carlitos for Las Quizzies and your.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Other host Mayula. Sorry what did he say? What did
the postman say? I remember it's sorry. It's like, oh
my god, I forgot Marilla. It's Mario. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's where.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Were we You're at your house and the phone with
you and you were like the postman.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Oh yeah, He's like, oh yeah, I just signed something
and he goes, maya Marillo and I go Morio. It's
just it's just a habit because like back in the day,
like you know, I being super Pocha, we used to
say Marillo because that's just like it was easier because
of you know, racism and ship and and oppression and
how to assimilate. It was easier to say Marillo. And
(02:03):
then there was a certain point in my life I'm
like Murillo. It's Murillo like and I'm not even saying
it right, so it's just a natural reaction. And then
I go Mourio and he goes, oh, sorry, Gracias.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I just love that. Suddenly, like you didn't can speak
English or something like suddenly you were like he was like, sorry, gracios, amiga.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
He's lat Yeah, okay, I love that. Yeah, that's like
my name. I always feel like I like when because
my real name is Carlitos. But I actually love when.
I love when people call me Carlitos, Like I love it,
like that's the name my grandma gave me. It's not
even Garlos Carlos, you know, and so I love it
so much. But sometimes people will say Carlitos, which is
(02:52):
also okay, but like with somebody goes carlitos, I'm.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Like, I know, I know. It's a thing. Like I
like my little nick name Maita, but I don't like
that people say Maita Maita or Maita okay, and I'm like, oh,
only say like that, don't What.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
About like Mayubula, Maya, Mayabella, Mayama, Maya, Milandria, oh Madam Malamadria.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You know this reminds me. You're the type of bestie
they'll just say whatever out of your asshole, lon't you.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
If my asshole could talk, she'd be like she.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Is talking cigarette her, I could hear her. I have
like the frequency to hear her.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Actually, if she talks.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You know, when you get on the toilet, Oh my god, okay,
little Tia, my bip. I was like going to the
bathroom the other day and my parents and there was
because it's a fart, right, It's just a fart. And
when you're sitting down, so sorry, so sorry. Well, when
(04:01):
your cheek spread, that's when it's easier for the fart
to get out. And that's what parts sound like, is
they're like and it was a long. I was like, damn,
it's a freaking noise, white noise machine on or something.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
It was so.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Okay, here's here, here's what it was. That's a long time.
And I bet you was.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Your hands up to count. By the way, it.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Was long enough where I was like, damn, like in.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
The bathroom Mississippi, that's a three count.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Was not even in any like like no fart noises
like that, it was just air, and I was like, wow.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Sidebar though, like whatever, let's just get into it. Like
my my first part, like the opening of the gates fart,
like I wish it was like a soft gentle It's not.
It's like and I'm like, oh my god, like how embarrassing.
I feel like she I feel like when I my
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first initial fart is like that little kid that's like
mom but you hate like spaghetti, or like the one
the kid who just is like revealing the truth. And
I feel like my initial fart like that opens up
the floodgates is just like so loud, kind of messy,
much like this friendship. Anyways, let's get into.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Well today we're talking about the different types of besties.
I feel like a lot of these are interchangeable. Like
we looked it up. We asked chatchibt, and they just
gave us like too many responses. But we're gonna be
going through the different types of besties some of the
some of the ones that we identify as are some
of the ones that we see each other as in
some that we have. There's different types, right.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I was thinking about, like how you know, I truly
feel so oh blast, like I've had the same best
friends in my life. I'm kind of I don't know
if you're like this or if other people are like
this too, but truly, like once you're connected to me
in life, like you are part of like my soul team,
Like you were like part of my circle for like life,
and so I've been very fortunate, like even with you,
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like I tell you a lot, Like I'm like, we're
just so lucky to be able to like have each
other and talk about the sound that we make when
we fart. But then you know, earlier we were diving
really into like our love lives, and like I was
taking notes literally We're talking and I'm taking notes about
love and stuff like that. So I was thinking, like,
oh man, but I still have different best friends to
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fulfill like different needs, and I know that all of
us do as well, So we wanted to talk about
it a little bit about the different sorts of best
these and the first one I was thinking about, you know,
you probably see them every single day. You're probably like,
oh my god, thank god they're here. It doesn't feel
the same without them when you see them. If they
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stay home that day because you're sick, You're all, man,
why didn't you tell me you were going to be
sick today? Like what do I do with myself? And
that is the work best.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Which I feel like we started out as right, like,
oh my god, yeah, we started out. I mean that's
how we got close. Was I For the first I
would say a couple of months at BuzzFeed, I sat
right in front of Curly and then we changed seats
and I sat next to him like for the rest
(07:27):
of my BuzzFeed career. Yeah, and pretty much, I think
so pretty much.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well, I kind of feel like in the very beginning,
like me, you and Gaudia were with each other a
lot all the time, and we became so tight, and
you know, you guys being so far from home, like
Gaudilla lived with me for like I think two weeks
at some point, and with you. You were celebrating I think
your twenty third birthday out here? Was it your twenty third?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
It was my twenty I had turned twenty three in
March and I came in July.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So I think the following So when you turn twenty four,
I was like, I never have people at my apartment,
not even for like my own stuff. But I was like,
let's throw something here for you, invite whoever you want, like,
let's invite the team, and well, I'll like make something
for us. And it's so funny because, like you know,
I think early on my instinct, my instinct is still
(08:20):
like that with you too, like to very very like caring.
And I was like, give me your mom's number. I'll
text her so that she knows she can contact me
if she ever has any questions about your whereabouts or
what's going on. And quick side story, Maya hates celantro
and not because she doesn't yeah, not because she doesn't
(08:42):
like it, but because genetically, her her taste buds inform
her brain that cilantro doesn't taste the way.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That we technically an allergy might taste it.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, And so I had just learned a recipe from
Izzy and Lula's aunt and she made a celantro yeah lasagna,
and I was like, oh my god, that's perfect. It
feeds a lot of people. You just cut it up
like a lasagna. It's literally just Dorthias forio and cheese
and a shit ton of maathio sauce mixing with a
(09:13):
shit ton of o.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
A shit shit dusted, a whole layer, thick layer.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, and you still ate it, you still want it
so much. But yeah, I feel like, you know, work
besties don't get a lot of credit sometimes because we
think that it's just for work, but like truly like
your work bestie at work, Oh my god, like the
way that you can kind of be like, girl, I
need event about our manager. I need event about so
(09:46):
and so, Like oh my god, I have a crush
on so and so in accounting or in the mail room,
and you want to kind of like talk about this.
It's almost like your work becomes like your school and
you want to talk about the social like cont strucks
or the social sort of happenings of your school and
work with your best friend. So like, I feel like
(10:08):
we don't really give that area of our lives as
much love as we do so you know, shout out
to all the work besties and they get you through
the day.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
You guys trauma bond We trauma bonded, Yes, like you know,
and and I feel like you were saying, like you
have some sometimes you have like work besties where you
just you don't really see each other outside of work.
Sometimes it's just strictly like at work, which I feel
like is a good boundary to have sometimes, you know,
(10:37):
because I feel like some of the times when I
had like a work best to your work like really
good friends, and then I went out with them later,
I'm like, oh, let's just keep this strictly business blaby friends.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of like where you find out
like if they become best friends outside of work, right,
because you're like, yeah, you know, if you can only
be friends with them in work, or you can only
be friends with them when you guys are busy, Like
maybe that's not necessarily a bestie that could leak out
of this, but certainly a work bestie, Like who do
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you going to walk with? Who do you sit with
that lunch? Who are you like? Girl, I'm just going
through it, like you know, all these different things.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, was my birthday party the first time we had
hung out like outside of because because the thing about
our job is that we had a lot of opportunities
to hang out outside of work, as in like, yes,
we're still working, but we're we're like at a restaurant,
or we're traveling, or we're doing this and that.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You know, you know, for us, it was different because
I feel like with better like and you know, all
the people on our team, our job involved travel, right,
and a lot of times we would be in the
same room. They would book us in the same room
or stuff like that. Like we were always like on
a budget, so not we almost felt like we would
go on tour with each other in a lot of ways,
(11:57):
like making appearances together, you know, making content together, going
out on the field to shoot together, and then staying
in late nights to edit, or being like, oh, I'm awake,
I have to edit all day, like all day today.
Are you editing? Yeah, I'm editing right now. Like all
those different things that kind of informed our friendship. So
(12:17):
it's a little unique. But you know, I think about
I had this one I used to when I was
like eighteen, I used to intern at this accounting firm
and I had the secretary of the office. Was this
a girl named She's her lineage is African. I forget
where her family's from, though, but her name was Aliyah,
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and she had big, beautiful eyes, like just a sprite,
just wide awake every morning, and I would come in
and she would go like, oh, hey, a little bit,
and we would just like just hit it off, like
have so much fun with each other, giggling, because here
she and I were these artists, these weirdos who were
like I need a drink, and I need a line
of something. I need to like suck on a nas
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balloon or take a line of coke or something. And
we were like in an office with like a bunch
of accountants, so we were like, girl, look at these
pruds over here. They don't even know how to live life. Meanwhile,
we were all crusty together and like and she's still
somebody that I love so much, like just just an incredible,
hilarious human being. Like we were just like gossip about
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all the people in the office and be like that's
blah blah blah, she hates everyone. But I was like,
I'm gonna make her like me. Watch and we would
just make isn't it just.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Like the most primal example of community though, like it
is it is like and also when people say like
chief may or gossip is bad, no it's not. It's
not unless you're using it against somebody. But like this
is how we learn and inform about people. And I
feel like work besties are like yeah, there. And I
also want to say, if you have a work bestie
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right now that you're thinking of, text them right now
and say, oh my god, I love you so much,
I'm so grateful for you.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
See tomorrow, Oh see you tomorrow, or I'm I'm been
coming in from work, I'll see you later.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, maybe get them a little treat. What about childhood besties?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Can I say one thing before we go to childhood besties?
About the chief mean thing. According to the book Sapiens,
which is like a beautiful anthropological book about truly just
the evolution of the human from like a disassociated kind
of point of view, just looking at the human as
like an almost like this thing, they talk about gossip
actually chief may being something that evolved through evolution because
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we had to inform each other of like who was
a liar, who was like somebody that might steal from you.
Who is somebody that might could get you sick? Like
the achievement really started off as a way for us
to survive. So it is a form of like a
survival tactic. Kbot, kbot for the wind.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Von okay kvot.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Said, we learned lot from cheesemay. He thought you have
such an infectious laugh.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
But yeah, So then going back to like, you know,
childhood besties, we were going to.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Say childhood besties, these are besties you make from childhood.
Obviously from from me, I feel like I had one.
His name was Alexander, and we were like besties from
pre k and my mom and his grandma were co
workers at the newspaper at the time, and he was
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like my first kiss. He was like we were they
thought we were going to get married when we grew up.
It was like one of those like you know, childhood
besties to kind of like so and then we dated.
We dated when we uh when I turned eighteen, when
I graduated.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
College, Wow, where's he now?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Uh somewhere else? It did not It did not end
up good, but uh oh no, his name was Alexander.
But I really grew up like appreciating him so much.
He was so kind, so nice, and then when we dated,
it was one of those things where I was like, wow,
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this is what I've always wanted, like this is such
a and then you know, it just didn't kind of
work out. And I was also very very young, and
you know, uh, he told me that I dropped him
like a sack of potatoes.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Did you drop him like a sac of potatoes?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I did drop him like a sack of potatoes. And
then I got dropped if.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You want to by who oh.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Then I got dropped by a sack of potatoes. But
that was my first kind of like introduction into like,
oh yeah, childhood bestie, but more so, like I would say,
my besties were from elementary school and high school, middle
school in high school and I had one, And it's
kind of crazy to be friend and you have a
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lot of them. I feel like I just I don't
really talk to them as much as like you do
to yours. But it's just this kind of it's this
thing where you look back and you're like, whoa, Like
we've literally seen each other grow up in the most
beautiful ways, and we've also seen the most ugly, raw
nasty side of ourselves. We also like girls, girl groups.
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Being friends with girls when you're like in elementary school,
middle school to high school is brutal. It is brutal
because we would have sleepovers and we would fucking fight
at those sleepovers. It would we would all be besties
at the beginning, and then at the end we would
be like, can you call your mom pick you up?
Or I would be like I'm gonna leave and to
have my dad picked me up, like because we would
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just get very clique or just a lot of estrogen
and periods and hormones and everything. But to come from
that to now, I have like Amy and my friend Ebony,
who I know from Ebony's from or from middle school.
Amy's from high school. And I'm still friends with them
now and We've been through so much. And yeah, we
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don't talk on a daily basis, but you know, there's
a part of you that there's a part of me
that I will always go back and you know, want
to feel like that teenager again?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, absolutely, I feel so my I kind of have
this what a wonderful blessing. Truly. I have five best
friends that I have grown up with since I was
eight years old and we still hang out. I just
hung out with two of them like a week ago.
The other two couldn't make it because they were working
and one of them has like a baby that you
know they have to tend to. I guess, but it's
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really like been so beautiful. We were talking about it.
It was me, so the five of us. It's me
Ariel who was the queen bee, Crystal who was like
the runt that became really beautiful all of a sudden
in high school. Christy was the muscle, the lesbian, and
Jess was like ginger spices, like just beautiful skater girl
of aluptuous.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
It sounds like dairy girls.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Oh please watch it.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I will, I will, but it was so much fun.
So like it was me and Ariel and Crystal talk.
We were having like lunch like two weeks ago, and
we were talking about how we were just like what
you were saying, how like we were part of a
girl group and we were mean to each other. We
would bully each other. We were cool, but like we
were just like who we were very much like acting
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out like what we thought school needed to look like
because of the movies like popular stuff, who's popular, who's
not popular? I can't talk to you. You're not popular.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
What what years did you?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Were you friends with them from like I.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Would say this started in nineteen ninety six and that
we met each other, and then the.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Whole early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, and then the ups, you know, and then we
call it, we call ourselves the ups, the ups, and
it supposed to stand forward that no matter what, through
the ups and downs of life, we will always be
each other's ups. But it really just means united penis suckers.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, we were twelve years old. We're like, oh my god,
it's so funny.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So I could not even say that word, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And Christy the lesbian, she'd be like, it's also pussy guys,
united pussy sucks. Like it's just you, Christy. It can be.
But like we I remember, So we were talking with
Ario and we were saying, how before she, before a
Riale got there, we were mean girls. But ari Yale
came in and she was very popular, and she was
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kind of a blibyous of being popular. She didn't really
like understand it. So she's like, I didn't understand the
social rules of going to this school because she came later.
She came in like the seventh grade, and she was like,
you guys suck. Why are you guys so mean to
each other? And because of her, she created this like
larger group of misfits, and it's kind of carried us
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through to this day, like we will I write about them.
I love them so much. They're part of like what
I write about in and daydream about because I just
love the bond that we have. And then the next
there's party best these. I feel like party best these.
Maybe a lot of people don't have them, but it's
kind of like the best friend that you really trust
to go out with, Like if you want to go
out night on the town, you know that you have
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like similar drinking habits or you have similar social things
where like you know that if you go out with
them to a party that by twelve o'clock you both
will be like, let's go home, or you know that
if it's three am, they're like, where's the after party?
Like you just know, like that is your row dog,
Like y'all don't leave each other when you guys get drunk,
y'all don't like leave each other things get crazy. Maybe
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you don't talk throughout the week, maybe you don't like
comunicate with each other throughout the week, maybe you don't
really hang outside of like let's go do something crazy.
But you're equally as close to them because through the
drunk nights, through the vomit, through maybe some fistfights, you
kind of are like, you know, complimenting random people in
the bathroom. You've kind of created this bond because you
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know you're sitting with them at three am and you're like,
I just really thought that he liked me. I thought
this one.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Would Oh my gosh, you know you know who I
think the this kind of goes into like the therapist bestI,
which is the next one. Yeah, the party besties turn
into the therapist besties at the end of the night.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Oh yeah, come two am.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yes, Because I at first I'm like, oh, I don't
think I have any party besties, but like my friend Carmen,
like we've gone to a lot of parties together, and
then we'll have a therapy session beforehand and then during
well I love no, I love party besties too, because
you can experience the entire party and then the debrief
aft believe something happens during the party and you look
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at each other like ooh, and then later you're like,
was I drippin' or did ye did that happen? Or
was he like? Or like there's this Halloween party that
we went to and my friend was like, oh my god,
I like this guy. I'm like, okay, well, let's like
let's get you closer to him. So we just like
me and my other friend just like ushered her over
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and we just stood in front of him and was like, hey,
what's your name? This is Carmen, What's what was your name? Again?
Start your name? And then they just started talking and
then we'd like left them alone, like those little diversions. Yeah,
you know were yes, Yeah, I feel like I'm a
good week man too.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Oh my god, we need to go out together then,
and you can. I feel like we don't really party
together because we met when I was like super non drinker,
super non partier, would not leave the house. So we
don't really like go to a lot of parties together.
We're not party best these We're very like, let's go
grab a bite to eat and watch a movie, let's
go to a play.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Well, when we've gone to parties, like you always leave early.
And that's why. On my Instagram and my TikTok, I
talked about Scorpio Moons leaving goat Irish Irish goodbye and
ghosting saying goodbye. You can't convince them. They're like I'm going,
and every time I have tried to be like no,
please stay, They're like nope, no, because there's a switch
(24:24):
that happens with you Scorpio Moons where it's like la
la la, and then I see you guys disassociate and
I'm like uh oh, and either I like snap you
out of it or I'm like okay, like they're just
gonna they're gonna go, like because I feel like we
get a little bit off where I'm like, oh, I'm
gonna stay, and then I stay and then you're like
oh I'm gonna leave, or like yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, yeah, we'll do that because usually I'm over it
and you'll be like I'm gonna stay and I'm like
I got nothing. There's there's I don't have a horse
in this race.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
We'll always arrive together, Yeah, always arrived together.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah that's real.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
The next one is the next one is uh Chloe,
like breaking the back room the next Chloe, please.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Well wait, blinked therapist bestis I mentioned before?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, yeah, which I love. I feel like I'm the
therapist bestI for a lot of people in my life,
which I actually it's not to blow smoke up my
own ass at all, but I really feel like I
love to process with people. I feel like that's how
you and I really bonded because we would process for
hours together. We still do, like we still process over
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hours together. Like and I'm this because I think of
my Virgo. I think I understand emotion because of my
scorpio placements, but I think that the Virgo side of
me is very much like, let's map this out. Let's
literally create like a map. Let's write out the different things.
I think this is connected to this. Blah blah blah
blah blah. This is what I think. And I try
to like make sure that my answers are thought out.
(25:57):
You know what I mean that I'm offering you something,
and I ask a lot of questions too. I'm like,
what does that mean to you? What is that rooted
into you? And I listen a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yes, And this is like your therapist bestI is somebody
who you take turns right. I feel like it's not
somebody who you're like, I just need it, like you
trauma dump. We're not talking about trauma people. You can
trauma dump like this is where you like I have.
I would say like a couple of friends that I'm
like specifically for certain issues, I will call them and
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be like this just happened or blah blah blah blah,
what do you think about this? Because I want to
hear their opinion because they know me. Also, the therapist
besties are the ones who know you and are able
to kind of give you the real talk in a
way where you're able to receive it. You know, I
have like a friend like that who's always like, so
(26:50):
you are being You're valid, You're so valid, but you
know you do have a tendency to do X, Y
and Z. You know that's been yet.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I love being because I won't do that to you.
I won't be like, I won't say things to you.
I ask you a lot of questions more than I
tell you about yourself.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, and it's for these besties I feel like I
go I go to them for like different things where
it's like not so much like I've already. I've already
talked about it with with everybody or with a couple
of people, and like, what do they think? It's like,
I like having a range of people with different type
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of like experiences who are not even associated with our
group whatsoever, but can give me like a kind of
outer scope, higher self perspective, Like I feel like therapists
besties are able to do that a lot. And I
totally felt like a therapist bestie too, And I love it.
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I really write like it you feel kind of in
your bag when you're able to and it it feels
very like because it essentially it's like we're both opening
up ourselves and our spiritual selves and our ancestors and
our spirit angels to help each other guide through whatever
is happening. And you can feel when it's like, like
(28:15):
you gave me such real talk today, I'm like I
always eye roll because I'm like it's so good. I
hate I hate that, Like, uh, I'm even like going
through I'm not going through anything like that, but just
like the topic we were talking about, I just get
so annoyed that I feel, yeah, period, that I feel
anything towards it, And like Curly gave me some really
(28:37):
great literally mapped out and wrote out some stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
You know what, though, like I think that just before
we move on to the other one, if you are
the therapist best or you have a therapist besty, like
make sure what to do, like don't do it maya
I said earlier, Like don't trauma dump like cold space
for them as well, because what ends up happening is that,
like you deplete the friend who does want to be
there with you, you dept a friend who wants to
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hear what's happening. But when you're not listening or you're
not kind of like talking about and sometimes it changes, right,
Like I have one of my best friends right now
and that he's venting about some stuff and I don't
really have that anything to vent about because I'm not
in the same space of I don't have a broken
heart right now, you know, right, so like he will
(29:26):
talk to me about it, and I could kind of
come at it from what I've learned in my experience
versus like, you know, six months ago, I was talking
your ear off and some of our listeners ears off
about like what I was experiencing in terms of a
relationship that didn't go well.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
And it's like also like putting a We always talk
about protection bubble around yourself, and if you don't like
being the therapist bestie, then you need to say something
about it.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I also say something which brings us to new besties.
I feel like new besties might they're kind of like
in thirty day probation period where you're like, they can
become a seasonal friend, where there's somebody that you're like,
oh my god, we were so fucking tight for like
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three months. I talked to them for like so long,
and we just became super tight. But then after those
three months happened, you kind of just don't really keep
up with one another, you know. I do think that
goes into like our next one too.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah. Well, I also wanted to mention too, when your
bestie gets a new bestie, U huh, Like what is
your first instinct and what is your first I think
for me, like, especially in elementary school and middle school,
in high school, it was devastating to me. I would
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always be like, well, you know, because they would, Yeah,
people would whenever you get a new friend. Even nowadays,
whenever you get a new anything, you get a rush
of like emotions and serotonin and just dopamine because this
new person is like they're so funny, or they're so creative,
they're so talented, they're so this and that, and it's
(31:14):
almost like you put them on a pedestal and every
and you know, you're talking about them a lot and
talking other people's ear off about them. And so I
used to just feel I used to take it like,
oh my gosh, well, I guess I wasn't good enough
or I guess I didn't which that's so weird. It
goes into, you know, my abandonment issues for sure. But
(31:37):
it's I think because there was this thing that was
like no new besties or something like or there's a
lot of things on TikTok where it's like when your
bestie gets new bestine, it's like, you know, you kind
of get jealous, you kind of get upset a little bit.
I really feel genuinely like happy for my bestie getting
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a new bestie, because I'm like, it is opening up
a network, like and it's opening up different parts of
the community and just a new soul path too, you
know what I'm saying. And it's also like sometimes it's
good that they have like a new bestI or someone
to lean on because you're like, you know, I'm I
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know that I'm worthy, and I know that I'm enough,
and I know that like I trust uh, like I
believe in our friendship and I believe and I trust
in that, like we're good and I'm not intimidated, and
I don't need to be intimidated and I don't need
to be Like you know, it's like I feel like
a lot of times there's been that toxic like bestie
(32:43):
culture a little bit where it's a joke, but there's
a truth to every JK.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I mean, look, sometimes I remember just one of my besties,
my first best friend in the third grade, she left
for a few years, and she came back in this
seventh grade. And in that time from I think she
left from fifth to sixth grade, she made another new
best friend named Melissa, and I remember when they came
back in the seventh grade, Justin and I had developed
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a language where we would we would say moded a lot.
It's very two thousands, but we would go like, let's say,
like if I dissed you and you don't know what
to say, we would go moded or we would say
like moded, right, what does that mean. I don't remember.
We would just say it like we would just be like,
oh she got moded, Oh he got moded. And I
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remember I kind of made it a thing, right and
it became mine in justice thing. And then one day
Melissa came and they were saying it, and I was like,
that's our thing. But then Melissa was like, Jess has
been saying that since before she even came to the school,
and I was like, ah, and I knew. I was like,
(33:57):
they're fucking lying. But I remember I was twelve years old,
and I'm like, oh, like, get at you like that shit?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You know what just did say to me? I think
it was your birthday or something. But she messaged me
She's like, thank you for being a good bestie to
my bestie.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I love her so much. I love jesss I love
I truly love it. She's such a capricorn. She's such
a capricorn. Literally, like sometimes I like we'll text in
the group chat and she'll like, like the other day,
she was like wanting us to share a video of
like her cousin or something, and instead of being in
there be like, hey, guys, like I just wanted you
(34:34):
to see this video and she has video. Blah blah blah.
She just wrote, should share this video.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
We capricorns. Listen, they don't have time. They don't have time.
They're literally building an empire. So get right to the point.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Get right to the point. But yeah, like the next
bestie I call like pivotal moments besties. Those are the
people that you, like we said early trauma bond with
you guys were a shared experience with one another. I
kind of feel like Chanty and I became kind of
like pivotal bestie moments, Like because we Chantinna I have
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been close for years, years and years, and we've shared something.
We've shared a lot of a lot of what happened
to us in the last year was very similar, and
we really bonded really hard, Like we really needed somebody.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
To bondell from.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Chantelle from so like, we really bonded. And I think
that one of the nice things about being able to
bond with her over these things is we will have
moments of being like, this is what happened, this is
how we're feeling, but we will mix it in with
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a lot of comedy, so like we'll laugh about it.
And I think it's really allowed us to see parts
of ourselves in each other and see these moments, get
through these moments together, and it made us best these because,
like I said, we were just really close friends before
and now it's kind of like, oh my god, I
(36:09):
haven't talked to you in a day. I have someone
to tell you.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
It's like you kind of enter a new level, right
friendship level that you can feel where it's like oh no,
now now it's solidified like now, and once you cross
that like it it just I feel like, yeah, it
just it gives you something that you're like, WHOA, I
(36:49):
didn't have this before. Well I had this before. But
it's it's like kind of falling in love a little bit, right,
like falling in friend love. And that's why I think
like platonic love is so important because you know, in
moments that I feel like you guys have been through
that I've seen you were able to really lean on
each other and in turn help other people, like you
(37:15):
know what I'm saying, Like it just is it's so
it's about healing the collective and when you guys are
both healing, your helping to heal your own, like generational
trauma or just lineage and stuff. It's so important to
open that up. And it's like what I was saying
before with like opening up a new community and network.
(37:35):
It's like, I feel like it looks like new Yeah,
what narrow passage nearrow passways where it's just like it's
so beautiful, And I feel like those pivotal moments besties
are like yeah, like you said, trauma bonding, Like for sure.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I feel like death. It could be a lot of
different things where you're like, damn, we both lost somebody
at the same time. You know, like, uh, it could
be jobs we're both dealing with.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Like you both got laid off.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, you were both We're trying to like, yes we
have between us. Where are we going to go eat?
You know?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yes, I feel like I had one. Well, I feel
like it it moves into like the lifers right after
you have that kind of pivotal moment where you're like,
oh my gosh, this is like a new bestie. It's
like you're in it for life, like and I feel
like I one of my friends from Vine, like we
don't really talk as much, but we went through something
(38:39):
we went through like the whole Vine experience and then
went to like this really weird influencer New Year's Eve party,
and that bonded us for life for sure, because it
was just like it was the first time I had
kissed a girl. It was the first time that like
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it was which just so it was just so chaotic
and random. But the thing is is that we were
driving from Arizona to La to go to this party,
and we just had this like common dream to want
to get out of Arizona. I love Phoenix. I think
it's actually like way better than he used to be
(39:21):
and there's so much more accessibility to so many different things.
But at the time, it was just like a small
town and so we both like held each other like
our hands when we were like we're going to get
out of here, and like you we're going to end
up in La or we're going to end up like
in New York or Seattle or whatever. And then now
(39:41):
we look back and we're like we did it. Like
I'm in La. He's in I think Seattle. He's doing
like musical theater full time, and I think he might
be moving back to LA soon. But he's he's there
for life for me, you know, Like no matter how
much we talk, it still is like, you know, that's
(40:03):
just it, Like.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah, I feel like for me, lifers are like people
that I'm like, oh, baby girl, I'm sorry, you're in
it for life, Like I will always be a part
of your life. We might not check in on each
other all the time, but like I just recently said,
are rekindling maybe like four friendships. They were my best
friends in my twenties and we hadn't spoken to each
(40:25):
other seen each other in years. Years. We had like
a falling out, like we just didn't have the same
lifestyles and we like didn't agree with each other's politics.
Like there was a lot of different things happening. And
it was so funny because one of them I hadn't
seen in a very long time. His name's Lula. I
haven't seen him And I was like, his name's Louis,
(40:47):
but we call him Lula, And I was like, I
literally was like I need to see you, Like I'm
going to see you. I'm picking you up this weekend.
Where are we going? And when I dropped him off off,
we were like, isn't it so strange how it just
feels like no time has passed at all. It really
just feels like was there ever a time that we
(41:09):
weren't talking. Was there ever a time that we weren't
seeing each other? Literally, in the in the past three
weeks that we've rekindled, I've seen him like several times
already just to go hang out, sit on his couch,
sit there. And one of the things that we were
talking about is like, and this is what I love
about lifers is that lifers will have known you through
(41:29):
so many different spaces and parts of you as a person.
So when you find yourself in like a rut or
like this weird space in your life, your lifer besties
will kind of be like, that's not you, Like this
is who.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah, they're like your north note a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Like one of the things with him is he was
like when we were kids, like Lula was the gay
guy that everybody fell in love with. That every gay
guy that we went to, they'd be like, I move
out the way, Curly, who's that? Who's Lewis? Like he's perfect,
he's cute, Like and it's crazy because Louis, you know,
when we saw each other recently, he was like, I
look at you, Curly, and I think you're and we're bestie.
(42:08):
So there's nothing there. But he was like, you're golden,
Like you're the catch. Like I look at you and
I go, damn, I wish I could do this. And
I'm like, are you kidding me? I look at you
and I'm like, what the As I joke with him,
I'm like, I would never introduce you to any of
my boyfriends, Like I don't want to be the one
that's like I guess I'm still losing them to Lula.
But like we had a moment of being like I
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think we came back into each other's lives at the
right moment to remind each other of each other's greatness
and each other's like light and be like, you know,
like I told him, You've always been a hard worker.
You've always been someone who despite circumstances or whatever's thrown
at you. This kid used to go he didn't have
a computer in our early twenties. He would go to
(42:49):
the public library every single day and work on his
resume on their computers, and he would start applying. He
would sart applying to jobs, and he finally did it.
He finally got like a really good job. He's been
working corporate for a minute. Anytime he was like, I'm
gonna work my way to get a car. He would
get himself a car, like he's been about it and
so being back in his life now, it's been such
(43:10):
a privilege to be able to go, Babes, You've been
about us since day one. I have watched you grow up.
I have seen what you have done with nothing. Keep going.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Those those are very important friends to have because best
used to have because like I said, like they are
your compass or your north node, where when you are
feeling not like yourself, they are there to be the
light and remind you like you're better than this or
you've always been you know, whatever it is. And yeah,
(43:46):
I feel I feel like.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
I feel like me and you are lifers. Right Like
even when we've had like big arguments or whatever, I've
always been like, my we're gonna make up anyways, Like
we're gonna there's no especially like the that I see it,
I'm like, there's no end to these relationships. It's like transformations.
It's very much like if you're in my life forever,
we're just like, uh, not get over it, but like
(44:12):
we're gonna get over the hump. Because I always say this,
I'm like the quality of friendship is not determined by
how well you get along, but by what you guys
can survive together as friends.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Well, you know, my friend trauma is like growing up
with a toxic girl group. Was they like two of
them just left me, Like they just completely at the
same time unfollowed me and ghosted me and never talked
to me ever again. And it was just so weird
and so wrong. And that's like I feel like I
have that friend trauma when fighting to me, or when
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I do something wrong, or when there's some sort of
discomfort or the other person has like you know, made
me sad or hurt in a way like that is
what I was used to growing up. Is like, well
then I don't want to be your friend anymore. And
then that's just it, like well you're you're like moody,
or it took one thing, one thing for them to
(45:08):
just like leave, you know. So I feel like I
always retreat into like, well, this is the end of it.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I guess I think a lot of people do. I
really have heard a lot of people being like I
guess this is the end of the friend. I was
just talking to another friend of mine. He was telling
me that he and his best friend are arguing, and
he's like, I guess that's the end of our friendship.
And I'm like why like it for me?
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Like, I know it's the end of the friendship when
you have disrespected me beyond when you cannot you cannot
see my side at all, Like like with a friend
I used to live with, the friend that I used
to live with, huh, Like that shit was like so
disrespectful I cannot even But I.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Feel like that's not like best friends, right because I
feel like best friends would be like I don't necessarily
understand what you're saying, but I'm trying to. And then
I think that even that can be like we're trying
to and we're trying to figure it out, and it
can evolve. It doesn't necessarily have to end. But you're like,
I don't know, Like if you would have talked to
me a few years ago and you would have been like,
(46:10):
I'm a trump, but I'd be like, I'm trying to understand.
Oh god, but you.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Know what if the other person doesn't, you know.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
It has to be like any relationship.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
What about sibling besties? I feel like we cross over
to like sibling besties too.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yeah, we're like sibling besties and old made couple besties. Yeah,
I feel like I don't know. I feel like I
see you like a counterpart versus like I feel like
you're my sister. But I also don't see you like
as like, Yeah, I don't know. I feel like we
(46:49):
do have that sibling energy, but sibling energy can sometimes
be bratty with one another. I don't really feel like
we're bratty, not anymore. Who used to be Bratti? You?
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Me and you and you? We would take turns, we
would take turns.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
No, I'm kidding, No, for sure, for sure, I'm definitely
kidding because I know I was like Braddy. Oh my God, Like,
thank God for therapy, thank God for aging, thank God
for all the experiences of being able to come to
communication reflecting introspection, like you know, sibling besties. That's like
you and Gattio. You and Gotti are sibling besties. Really,
(47:30):
I think so you guys are very like you guys
will go at it. I feel like when you guys
talk about stuff like when we're mad at each other, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
When we are, well it's not even yeah, no, we'll
argue a little bit, but it's mostly like he'll be like,
well this happened. I'm like, well this made me feel
like this. Like we're very because I think he's obviously
Sagittarius and I'm an Aries, so we're very blunt and
I feel like we can take that also, and we
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like recently, like not that we had like a huge dispute,
but you know a little tiff. And then I guess
we both thought that we were like mad at each other,
so we didn't talk for like a whole month, and
then he called me and he was like, don't abandon me.
You abandoned me. I'm like, you abandoned me. I thought
that you were mad at me. He's like, I thought
(48:21):
that you were mad at me. So yeah, it was
very much, Yeah, very much. Yeah, Brothers, Sister Energy. Welcome
to the astrology portion of the podcast. Which signs are
the best besties to have? Or which signs do you
(48:43):
think are the best besties? Like? Which signs do you
always see together? Who are besties?
Speaker 2 (48:47):
I find? Well, I kind of feel like all my
best friends are usually fire or water. I find that fire.
I love having friendships that inspire me and teach me,
and I feel like my fire signs are very like
like let's go, come on, don't give up, keep it moving,
(49:08):
let's keep going, let's do this. And then my water
signs are like, let's talk about it. What's happening. Oh yeah,
I can feel that, I can see where you're coming
from and this energy and blah blah blah blah blah.
Like so you know, my leos, my sadges, my aries,
they're just like burn the house down, let's fucking get going.
And then my water signs are like, it's okay to
(49:31):
feel like that was a toxic relationship for you, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Like right right, Yeah, A lot of mine are like
fire and a lot of air, a lot of Geminis, yeah, joys, yes,
and yeah, a lot of water as well. And Earth.
I think I think it's you. I think I only
have like a couple of Earth sign besties, but.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I feel like Earth signs are kind of interesting.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
But I have a lot of Sagittarius besties. I don't
have many Leo besties. Definitely want to, you know, take
that into account for this next year. I want to
like interact with more Leos. I don't know why. I
love like I want to date a Leo, I love.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
I think aries are fun besties to have.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
I don't know, just thinking about it or saying you
were thinking about it, and I just had to say
it the best that aries are the most fun besties
of every time.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Love aries. I am like even the guy that I
kind of am crushing on right now. When he told me,
I was like, I'm really digging this guy. He's so
fucking dope. He's so cool. And then he opened up
his mouth that he's an Aries. I was like, ah,
of course the march Aries. Oh, I think he's in
March Aries. We don't know if he is. We have
to I have to double check.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Well, I'm sensing that he's in March Aries because he
sounds cool, because that's just what it is sometimes. And listen,
you virgos, just give it up. You guys are in
love with aries.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Just get it. I always give it up. My my
north note is an aries. So of course I like
love aries so much.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
You like like like us, just say it.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
I told Izzy, the Arias of my twenties is what
I always say that he wants in a I guess
it was a passing comment because he didn't even remember,
but he was like, you're virgo, You're boring, Like why
are you so boring? And I was like I will
never be boring? So like that made me even more
like you want to go here, let's go. You want
to go over there, let's go. I'm gonna pick you
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up in like that energy. You know how me, I'll
like text you at seven am and be like, let's
go to breakfast right now. Like that is very much
because of what Izzy did to my spirit back then
the aries. So I'm thinking I'm thankful for because I like,
I like that I have that in me. Shout out
to the air signs. Every air sign in my life
is so magical, Mesh Prada, Joyce, my dad like just
(51:56):
air signs that I'm like, God, bless you, God bless you.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
And that concludes the astrology portion of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Well, Wilmar, here we are again. It's the end of
another episode. How do you plead?
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Bestie, Bestie, Bessy best You're the best, best thing I've
ever had, better than the rest in the worst, the best,
You're the best, Bestie, You're the Okay what about you?
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Well? O final thoughts? You know, keep people who treat
you well close to you understand that relationships must like
much like everything else in the world, like the waves
of the ocean, like your waisteband like sometimes the money
in your bank account. They will fluctuate. But just know
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that a good friend, no matter what, will always come back.
There will always be love. And also, if you're looking
for opportunity to text that best friend that you want
to rekindle with, do it. I promise you you'll love it.
And if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out again.
But get out there, ladies and Jensen. They them's Maya.
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Where can people find you? On social media?
Speaker 1 (53:12):
You can find me at Maya in the Moment, m
a Ya in the Moment, anywhere where you scrol what
about you?
Speaker 2 (53:18):
You can find me at the Curly b Show on
Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Thank you so much for listening to another episode of
The Super Secret Bestie Club Podcast and we'll see you
in the next one.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
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bestie are you?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
What about? Like, well, Maya, we hit our blah blah
blah year friendship.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Oh how many years has it been?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
When did you start buzzpeeding?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Twenty sixteen?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh wow, wait eight years?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
That's an entire eight year old That is an eight
year old child. Curly, we're recording.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh oh hi, get in here. My name is Curly
and I'm Maya, and welcome to the Super Secret bestI
Club Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
A super secret club where we talk about super secret things.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, like secrets that are super That's what it is.
In each episode we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreaks, men,
and of course our favorite secrets. Get in here? Could
you get in here?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And Welcome to another episode of the Super Secret Bestie
Club Podcast with your host Carlitos for Las Quizzies and your.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Other host Mayula. Sorry what did he say? What did
the postman say? I remember it's sorry. It's like, oh
my god, I forgot Marilla. It's Mario. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's where.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Were we You're at your house and the phone with
you and you were like the postman.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Oh yeah, He's like, oh yeah, I just signed something
and he goes, maya Marillo and I go Morio. It's
just it's just a habit because like back in the day,
like you know, I being super Pocha, we used to
say Marillo because that's just like it was easier because
of you know, racism and ship and and oppression and
how to assimilate. It was easier to say Marillo. And
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then there was a certain point in my life I'm
like Murillo. It's Murillo like and I'm not even saying
it right, so it's just a natural reaction. And then
I go Mourio and he goes, oh, sorry, Gracias.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I just love that. Suddenly, like you didn't can speak
English or something like suddenly you were like he was like, sorry, gracios, amiga.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
He's lat Yeah, okay, I love that. Yeah, that's like
my name. I always feel like I like when because
my real name is Carlitos. But I actually love when.
I love when people call me Carlitos, Like I love it,
like that's the name my grandma gave me. It's not
even Garlos Carlos, you know, and so I love it
so much. But sometimes people will say Carlitos, which is
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also okay, but like with somebody goes carlitos, I'm.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Like, I know, I know. It's a thing. Like I
like my little nick name Maita, but I don't like
that people say Maita Maita or Maita okay, and I'm like, oh,
only say like that, don't What.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
About like Mayubula, Maya, Mayabella, Mayama, Maya, Milandria, oh Madam Malamadria.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You know this reminds me. You're the type of bestie
they'll just say whatever out of your asshole, lon't you.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
If my asshole could talk, she'd be like she.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Is talking cigarette her, I could hear her. I have
like the frequency to hear her.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Actually, if she talks.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You know, when you get on the toilet, Oh my god, okay,
little Tia, my bip. I was like going to the
bathroom the other day and my parents and there was
because it's a fart, right, It's just a fart. And
when you're sitting down, so sorry, so sorry. Well, when
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your cheek spread, that's when it's easier for the fart
to get out. And that's what parts sound like, is
they're like and it was a long. I was like, damn,
it's a freaking noise, white noise machine on or something.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
It was so.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Okay, here's here, here's what it was. That's a long time.
And I bet you was.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Your hands up to count. By the way, it.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Was long enough where I was like, damn, like in.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
The bathroom Mississippi, that's a three count.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Was not even in any like like no fart noises
like that, it was just air, and I was like, wow.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Sidebar though, like whatever, let's just get into it. Like
my my first part, like the opening of the gates fart,
like I wish it was like a soft gentle It's not.
It's like and I'm like, oh my god, like how embarrassing.
I feel like she I feel like when I my
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first initial fart is like that little kid that's like
mom but you hate like spaghetti, or like the one
the kid who just is like revealing the truth. And
I feel like my initial fart like that opens up
the floodgates is just like so loud, kind of messy,
much like this friendship. Anyways, let's get into.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Well today we're talking about the different types of besties.
I feel like a lot of these are interchangeable. Like
we looked it up. We asked chatchibt, and they just
gave us like too many responses. But we're gonna be
going through the different types of besties some of the
some of the ones that we identify as are some
of the ones that we see each other as in
some that we have. There's different types, right.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I was thinking about, like how you know, I truly
feel so oh blast, like I've had the same best
friends in my life. I'm kind of I don't know
if you're like this or if other people are like
this too, but truly, like once you're connected to me
in life, like you are part of like my soul team,
Like you were like part of my circle for like life,
and so I've been very fortunate, like even with you,
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like I tell you a lot, Like I'm like, we're
just so lucky to be able to like have each
other and talk about the sound that we make when
we fart. But then you know, earlier we were diving
really into like our love lives, and like I was
taking notes literally We're talking and I'm taking notes about
love and stuff like that. So I was thinking, like,
oh man, but I still have different best friends to
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fulfill like different needs, and I know that all of
us do as well, So we wanted to talk about
it a little bit about the different sorts of best
these and the first one I was thinking about, you know,
you probably see them every single day. You're probably like,
oh my god, thank god they're here. It doesn't feel
the same without them when you see them. If they
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stay home that day because you're sick, You're all, man,
why didn't you tell me you were going to be
sick today? Like what do I do with myself? And
that is the work best.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Which I feel like we started out as right, like,
oh my god, yeah, we started out. I mean that's
how we got close. Was I For the first I
would say a couple of months at BuzzFeed, I sat
right in front of Curly and then we changed seats
and I sat next to him like for the rest
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of my BuzzFeed career. Yeah, and pretty much, I think
so pretty much.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well, I kind of feel like in the very beginning,
like me, you and Gaudia were with each other a
lot all the time, and we became so tight, and
you know, you guys being so far from home, like
Gaudilla lived with me for like I think two weeks
at some point, and with you. You were celebrating I think
your twenty third birthday out here? Was it your twenty third?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
It was my twenty I had turned twenty three in
March and I came in July.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So I think the following So when you turn twenty four,
I was like, I never have people at my apartment,
not even for like my own stuff. But I was like,
let's throw something here for you, invite whoever you want, like,
let's invite the team, and well, I'll like make something
for us. And it's so funny because, like you know,
I think early on my instinct, my instinct is still
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like that with you too, like to very very like caring.
And I was like, give me your mom's number. I'll
text her so that she knows she can contact me
if she ever has any questions about your whereabouts or
what's going on. And quick side story, Maya hates celantro
and not because she doesn't yeah, not because she doesn't
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like it, but because genetically, her her taste buds inform
her brain that cilantro doesn't taste the way.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That we technically an allergy might taste it.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, And so I had just learned a recipe from
Izzy and Lula's aunt and she made a celantro yeah lasagna,
and I was like, oh my god, that's perfect. It
feeds a lot of people. You just cut it up
like a lasagna. It's literally just Dorthias forio and cheese
and a shit ton of maathio sauce mixing with a
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shit ton of o.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
A shit shit dusted, a whole layer, thick layer.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, and you still ate it, you still want it
so much. But yeah, I feel like, you know, work
besties don't get a lot of credit sometimes because we
think that it's just for work, but like truly like
your work bestie at work, Oh my god, like the
way that you can kind of be like, girl, I
need event about our manager. I need event about so
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and so, Like oh my god, I have a crush
on so and so in accounting or in the mail room,
and you want to kind of like talk about this.
It's almost like your work becomes like your school and
you want to talk about the social like cont strucks
or the social sort of happenings of your school and
work with your best friend. So like, I feel like
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we don't really give that area of our lives as
much love as we do so you know, shout out
to all the work besties and they get you through
the day.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
You guys trauma bond We trauma bonded, Yes, like you know,
and and I feel like you were saying, like you
have some sometimes you have like work besties where you
just you don't really see each other outside of work.
Sometimes it's just strictly like at work, which I feel
like is a good boundary to have sometimes, you know,
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because I feel like some of the times when I
had like a work best to your work like really
good friends, and then I went out with them later,
I'm like, oh, let's just keep this strictly business blaby friends.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of like where you find out
like if they become best friends outside of work, right,
because you're like, yeah, you know, if you can only
be friends with them in work, or you can only
be friends with them when you guys are busy, Like
maybe that's not necessarily a bestie that could leak out
of this, but certainly a work bestie, Like who do
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you going to walk with? Who do you sit with
that lunch? Who are you like? Girl, I'm just going
through it, like you know, all these different things.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, was my birthday party the first time we had
hung out like outside of because because the thing about
our job is that we had a lot of opportunities
to hang out outside of work, as in like, yes,
we're still working, but we're we're like at a restaurant,
or we're traveling, or we're doing this and that.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You know, you know, for us, it was different because
I feel like with better like and you know, all
the people on our team, our job involved travel, right,
and a lot of times we would be in the
same room. They would book us in the same room
or stuff like that. Like we were always like on
a budget, so not we almost felt like we would
go on tour with each other in a lot of ways,
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like making appearances together, you know, making content together, going
out on the field to shoot together, and then staying
in late nights to edit, or being like, oh, I'm awake,
I have to edit all day, like all day today.
Are you editing? Yeah, I'm editing right now. Like all
those different things that kind of informed our friendship. So
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it's a little unique. But you know, I think about
I had this one I used to when I was
like eighteen, I used to intern at this accounting firm
and I had the secretary of the office. Was this
a girl named She's her lineage is African. I forget
where her family's from, though, but her name was Aliyah,
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and she had big, beautiful eyes, like just a sprite,
just wide awake every morning, and I would come in
and she would go like, oh, hey, a little bit,
and we would just like just hit it off, like
have so much fun with each other, giggling, because here
she and I were these artists, these weirdos who were
like I need a drink, and I need a line
of something. I need to like suck on a nas
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balloon or take a line of coke or something. And
we were like in an office with like a bunch
of accountants, so we were like, girl, look at these
pruds over here. They don't even know how to live life. Meanwhile,
we were all crusty together and like and she's still
somebody that I love so much, like just just an incredible,
hilarious human being. Like we were just like gossip about
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all the people in the office and be like that's
blah blah blah, she hates everyone. But I was like,
I'm gonna make her like me. Watch and we would
just make isn't it just.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Like the most primal example of community though, like it
is it is like and also when people say like
chief may or gossip is bad, no it's not. It's
not unless you're using it against somebody. But like this
is how we learn and inform about people. And I
feel like work besties are like yeah, there. And I
also want to say, if you have a work bestie
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right now that you're thinking of, text them right now
and say, oh my god, I love you so much,
I'm so grateful for you.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
See tomorrow, Oh see you tomorrow, or I'm I'm been
coming in from work, I'll see you later.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, maybe get them a little treat. What about childhood besties?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Can I say one thing before we go to childhood besties?
About the chief mean thing. According to the book Sapiens,
which is like a beautiful anthropological book about truly just
the evolution of the human from like a disassociated kind
of point of view, just looking at the human as
like an almost like this thing, they talk about gossip
actually chief may being something that evolved through evolution because
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we had to inform each other of like who was
a liar, who was like somebody that might steal from you.
Who is somebody that might could get you sick? Like
the achievement really started off as a way for us
to survive. So it is a form of like a
survival tactic. Kbot, kbot for the wind.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Von okay kvot.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Said, we learned lot from cheesemay. He thought you have
such an infectious laugh.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
But yeah, So then going back to like, you know,
childhood besties, we were going to.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Say childhood besties, these are besties you make from childhood.
Obviously from from me, I feel like I had one.
His name was Alexander, and we were like besties from
pre k and my mom and his grandma were co
workers at the newspaper at the time, and he was
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like my first kiss. He was like we were they
thought we were going to get married when we grew up.
It was like one of those like you know, childhood
besties to kind of like so and then we dated.
We dated when we uh when I turned eighteen, when
I graduated.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
College, Wow, where's he now?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Uh somewhere else? It did not It did not end
up good, but uh oh no, his name was Alexander.
But I really grew up like appreciating him so much.
He was so kind, so nice, and then when we dated,
it was one of those things where I was like, wow,
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this is what I've always wanted, like this is such
a and then you know, it just didn't kind of
work out. And I was also very very young, and
you know, uh, he told me that I dropped him
like a sack of potatoes.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Did you drop him like a sac of potatoes?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I did drop him like a sack of potatoes. And
then I got dropped if.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You want to by who oh.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Then I got dropped by a sack of potatoes. But
that was my first kind of like introduction into like,
oh yeah, childhood bestie, but more so, like I would say,
my besties were from elementary school and high school, middle
school in high school and I had one, And it's
kind of crazy to be friend and you have a
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lot of them. I feel like I just I don't
really talk to them as much as like you do
to yours. But it's just this kind of it's this
thing where you look back and you're like, whoa, Like
we've literally seen each other grow up in the most
beautiful ways, and we've also seen the most ugly, raw
nasty side of ourselves. We also like girls, girl groups.
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Being friends with girls when you're like in elementary school,
middle school to high school is brutal. It is brutal
because we would have sleepovers and we would fucking fight
at those sleepovers. It would we would all be besties
at the beginning, and then at the end we would
be like, can you call your mom pick you up?
Or I would be like I'm gonna leave and to
have my dad picked me up, like because we would
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just get very clique or just a lot of estrogen
and periods and hormones and everything. But to come from
that to now, I have like Amy and my friend Ebony,
who I know from Ebony's from or from middle school.
Amy's from high school. And I'm still friends with them
now and We've been through so much. And yeah, we
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don't talk on a daily basis, but you know, there's
a part of you that there's a part of me
that I will always go back and you know, want
to feel like that teenager again?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, absolutely, I feel so my I kind of have
this what a wonderful blessing. Truly. I have five best
friends that I have grown up with since I was
eight years old and we still hang out. I just
hung out with two of them like a week ago.
The other two couldn't make it because they were working
and one of them has like a baby that you
know they have to tend to. I guess, but it's
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really like been so beautiful. We were talking about it.
It was me, so the five of us. It's me
Ariel who was the queen bee, Crystal who was like
the runt that became really beautiful all of a sudden
in high school. Christy was the muscle, the lesbian, and
Jess was like ginger spices, like just beautiful skater girl
of aluptuous.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
It sounds like dairy girls.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Oh please watch it.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I will, I will, but it was so much fun.
So like it was me and Ariel and Crystal talk.
We were having like lunch like two weeks ago, and
we were talking about how we were just like what
you were saying, how like we were part of a
girl group and we were mean to each other. We
would bully each other. We were cool, but like we
were just like who we were very much like acting
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out like what we thought school needed to look like
because of the movies like popular stuff, who's popular, who's
not popular? I can't talk to you. You're not popular.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
What what years did you?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Were you friends with them from like I.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Would say this started in nineteen ninety six and that
we met each other, and then the.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Whole early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, and then the ups, you know, and then we
call it, we call ourselves the ups, the ups, and
it supposed to stand forward that no matter what, through
the ups and downs of life, we will always be
each other's ups. But it really just means united penis suckers.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, we were twelve years old. We're like, oh my god,
it's so funny.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So I could not even say that word, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And Christy the lesbian, she'd be like, it's also pussy guys,
united pussy sucks. Like it's just you, Christy. It can be.
But like we I remember, So we were talking with
Ario and we were saying, how before she, before a
Riale got there, we were mean girls. But ari Yale
came in and she was very popular, and she was
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kind of a blibyous of being popular. She didn't really
like understand it. So she's like, I didn't understand the
social rules of going to this school because she came later.
She came in like the seventh grade, and she was like,
you guys suck. Why are you guys so mean to
each other? And because of her, she created this like
larger group of misfits, and it's kind of carried us
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through to this day, like we will I write about them.
I love them so much. They're part of like what
I write about in and daydream about because I just
love the bond that we have. And then the next
there's party best these. I feel like party best these.
Maybe a lot of people don't have them, but it's
kind of like the best friend that you really trust
to go out with, Like if you want to go
out night on the town, you know that you have
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like similar drinking habits or you have similar social things
where like you know that if you go out with
them to a party that by twelve o'clock you both
will be like, let's go home, or you know that
if it's three am, they're like, where's the after party?
Like you just know, like that is your row dog,
Like y'all don't leave each other when you guys get drunk,
y'all don't like leave each other things get crazy. Maybe
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you don't talk throughout the week, maybe you don't like
comunicate with each other throughout the week, maybe you don't
really hang outside of like let's go do something crazy.
But you're equally as close to them because through the
drunk nights, through the vomit, through maybe some fistfights, you
kind of are like, you know, complimenting random people in
the bathroom. You've kind of created this bond because you
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know you're sitting with them at three am and you're like,
I just really thought that he liked me. I thought
this one.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Would Oh my gosh, you know you know who I
think the this kind of goes into like the therapist bestI,
which is the next one. Yeah, the party besties turn
into the therapist besties at the end of the night.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Oh yeah, come two am.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yes, Because I at first I'm like, oh, I don't
think I have any party besties, but like my friend Carmen,
like we've gone to a lot of parties together, and
then we'll have a therapy session beforehand and then during
well I love no, I love party besties too, because
you can experience the entire party and then the debrief
aft believe something happens during the party and you look
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at each other like ooh, and then later you're like,
was I drippin' or did ye did that happen? Or
was he like? Or like there's this Halloween party that
we went to and my friend was like, oh my god,
I like this guy. I'm like, okay, well, let's like
let's get you closer to him. So we just like
me and my other friend just like ushered her over
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and we just stood in front of him and was like, hey,
what's your name? This is Carmen, What's what was your name? Again?
Start your name? And then they just started talking and
then we'd like left them alone, like those little diversions. Yeah,
you know were yes, Yeah, I feel like I'm a
good week man too.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Oh my god, we need to go out together then,
and you can. I feel like we don't really party
together because we met when I was like super non drinker,
super non partier, would not leave the house. So we
don't really like go to a lot of parties together.
We're not party best these We're very like, let's go
grab a bite to eat and watch a movie, let's
go to a play.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Well, when we've gone to parties, like you always leave early.
And that's why. On my Instagram and my TikTok, I
talked about Scorpio Moons leaving goat Irish Irish goodbye and
ghosting saying goodbye. You can't convince them. They're like I'm going,
and every time I have tried to be like no,
please stay, They're like nope, no, because there's a switch
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that happens with you Scorpio Moons where it's like la
la la, and then I see you guys disassociate and
I'm like uh oh, and either I like snap you
out of it or I'm like okay, like they're just
gonna they're gonna go, like because I feel like we
get a little bit off where I'm like, oh, I'm
gonna stay, and then I stay and then you're like
oh I'm gonna leave, or like yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, yeah, we'll do that because usually I'm over it
and you'll be like I'm gonna stay and I'm like
I got nothing. There's there's I don't have a horse
in this race.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
We'll always arrive together, Yeah, always arrived together.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah that's real.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
The next one is the next one is uh Chloe,
like breaking the back room the next Chloe, please.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Well wait, blinked therapist bestis I mentioned before?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, yeah, which I love. I feel like I'm the
therapist bestI for a lot of people in my life,
which I actually it's not to blow smoke up my
own ass at all, but I really feel like I
love to process with people. I feel like that's how
you and I really bonded because we would process for
hours together. We still do, like we still process over
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hours together. Like and I'm this because I think of
my Virgo. I think I understand emotion because of my
scorpio placements, but I think that the Virgo side of
me is very much like, let's map this out. Let's
literally create like a map. Let's write out the different things.
I think this is connected to this. Blah blah blah
blah blah. This is what I think. And I try
to like make sure that my answers are thought out.
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You know what I mean that I'm offering you something,
and I ask a lot of questions too. I'm like,
what does that mean to you? What is that rooted
into you? And I listen a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yes, And this is like your therapist bestI is somebody
who you take turns right. I feel like it's not
somebody who you're like, I just need it, like you
trauma dump. We're not talking about trauma people. You can
trauma dump like this is where you like I have.
I would say like a couple of friends that I'm
like specifically for certain issues, I will call them and
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be like this just happened or blah blah blah blah,
what do you think about this? Because I want to
hear their opinion because they know me. Also, the therapist
besties are the ones who know you and are able
to kind of give you the real talk in a
way where you're able to receive it. You know, I
have like a friend like that who's always like, so
(26:50):
you are being You're valid, You're so valid, but you
know you do have a tendency to do X, Y
and Z. You know that's been yet.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I love being because I won't do that to you.
I won't be like, I won't say things to you.
I ask you a lot of questions more than I
tell you about yourself.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, and it's for these besties I feel like I
go I go to them for like different things where
it's like not so much like I've already. I've already
talked about it with with everybody or with a couple
of people, and like, what do they think? It's like,
I like having a range of people with different type
(27:32):
of like experiences who are not even associated with our
group whatsoever, but can give me like a kind of
outer scope, higher self perspective, Like I feel like therapists
besties are able to do that a lot. And I
totally felt like a therapist bestie too, And I love it.
(27:53):
I really write like it you feel kind of in
your bag when you're able to and it it feels
very like because it essentially it's like we're both opening
up ourselves and our spiritual selves and our ancestors and
our spirit angels to help each other guide through whatever
is happening. And you can feel when it's like, like
(28:15):
you gave me such real talk today, I'm like I
always eye roll because I'm like it's so good. I
hate I hate that, Like, uh, I'm even like going
through I'm not going through anything like that, but just
like the topic we were talking about, I just get
so annoyed that I feel, yeah, period, that I feel
anything towards it, And like Curly gave me some really
(28:37):
great literally mapped out and wrote out some stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
You know what, though, like I think that just before
we move on to the other one, if you are
the therapist best or you have a therapist besty, like
make sure what to do, like don't do it maya
I said earlier, Like don't trauma dump like cold space
for them as well, because what ends up happening is that,
like you deplete the friend who does want to be
there with you, you dept a friend who wants to
(29:05):
hear what's happening. But when you're not listening or you're
not kind of like talking about and sometimes it changes, right,
Like I have one of my best friends right now
and that he's venting about some stuff and I don't
really have that anything to vent about because I'm not
in the same space of I don't have a broken
heart right now, you know, right, so like he will
(29:26):
talk to me about it, and I could kind of
come at it from what I've learned in my experience
versus like, you know, six months ago, I was talking
your ear off and some of our listeners ears off
about like what I was experiencing in terms of a
relationship that didn't go well.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
And it's like also like putting a We always talk
about protection bubble around yourself, and if you don't like
being the therapist bestie, then you need to say something
about it.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I also say something which brings us to new besties.
I feel like new besties might they're kind of like
in thirty day probation period where you're like, they can
become a seasonal friend, where there's somebody that you're like,
oh my god, we were so fucking tight for like
(30:13):
three months. I talked to them for like so long,
and we just became super tight. But then after those
three months happened, you kind of just don't really keep
up with one another, you know. I do think that
goes into like our next one too.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah. Well, I also wanted to mention too, when your
bestie gets a new bestie, U huh, Like what is
your first instinct and what is your first I think
for me, like, especially in elementary school and middle school,
in high school, it was devastating to me. I would
(30:52):
always be like, well, you know, because they would, Yeah,
people would whenever you get a new friend. Even nowadays,
whenever you get a new anything, you get a rush
of like emotions and serotonin and just dopamine because this
new person is like they're so funny, or they're so creative,
they're so talented, they're so this and that, and it's
(31:14):
almost like you put them on a pedestal and every
and you know, you're talking about them a lot and
talking other people's ear off about them. And so I
used to just feel I used to take it like,
oh my gosh, well, I guess I wasn't good enough
or I guess I didn't which that's so weird. It
goes into, you know, my abandonment issues for sure. But
(31:37):
it's I think because there was this thing that was
like no new besties or something like or there's a
lot of things on TikTok where it's like when your
bestie gets new bestine, it's like, you know, you kind
of get jealous, you kind of get upset a little bit.
I really feel genuinely like happy for my bestie getting
(31:58):
a new bestie, because I'm like, it is opening up
a network, like and it's opening up different parts of
the community and just a new soul path too, you
know what I'm saying. And it's also like sometimes it's
good that they have like a new bestI or someone
to lean on because you're like, you know, I'm I
(32:21):
know that I'm worthy, and I know that I'm enough,
and I know that like I trust uh, like I
believe in our friendship and I believe and I trust
in that, like we're good and I'm not intimidated, and
I don't need to be intimidated and I don't need
to be Like you know, it's like I feel like
a lot of times there's been that toxic like bestie
(32:43):
culture a little bit where it's a joke, but there's
a truth to every JK.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I mean, look, sometimes I remember just one of my besties,
my first best friend in the third grade, she left
for a few years, and she came back in this
seventh grade. And in that time from I think she
left from fifth to sixth grade, she made another new
best friend named Melissa, and I remember when they came
back in the seventh grade, Justin and I had developed
(33:14):
a language where we would we would say moded a lot.
It's very two thousands, but we would go like, let's say,
like if I dissed you and you don't know what
to say, we would go moded or we would say
like moded, right, what does that mean. I don't remember.
We would just say it like we would just be like,
oh she got moded, Oh he got moded. And I
(33:36):
remember I kind of made it a thing, right and
it became mine in justice thing. And then one day
Melissa came and they were saying it, and I was like,
that's our thing. But then Melissa was like, Jess has
been saying that since before she even came to the school,
and I was like, ah, and I knew. I was like,
(33:57):
they're fucking lying. But I remember I was twelve years old,
and I'm like, oh, like, get at you like that shit?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You know what just did say to me? I think
it was your birthday or something. But she messaged me
She's like, thank you for being a good bestie to
my bestie.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I love her so much. I love jesss I love
I truly love it. She's such a capricorn. She's such
a capricorn. Literally, like sometimes I like we'll text in
the group chat and she'll like, like the other day,
she was like wanting us to share a video of
like her cousin or something, and instead of being in
there be like, hey, guys, like I just wanted you
(34:34):
to see this video and she has video. Blah blah blah.
She just wrote, should share this video.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
We capricorns. Listen, they don't have time. They don't have time.
They're literally building an empire. So get right to the point.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Get right to the point. But yeah, like the next
bestie I call like pivotal moments besties. Those are the
people that you, like we said early trauma bond with
you guys were a shared experience with one another. I
kind of feel like Chanty and I became kind of
like pivotal bestie moments, Like because we Chantinna I have
(35:10):
been close for years, years and years, and we've shared something.
We've shared a lot of a lot of what happened
to us in the last year was very similar, and
we really bonded really hard, Like we really needed somebody.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
To bondell from.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Chantelle from so like, we really bonded. And I think
that one of the nice things about being able to
bond with her over these things is we will have
moments of being like, this is what happened, this is
how we're feeling, but we will mix it in with
(35:48):
a lot of comedy, so like we'll laugh about it.
And I think it's really allowed us to see parts
of ourselves in each other and see these moments, get
through these moments together, and it made us best these because,
like I said, we were just really close friends before
and now it's kind of like, oh my god, I
(36:09):
haven't talked to you in a day. I have someone
to tell you.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
It's like you kind of enter a new level, right
friendship level that you can feel where it's like oh no,
now now it's solidified like now, and once you cross
that like it it just I feel like, yeah, it
just it gives you something that you're like, WHOA, I
(36:49):
didn't have this before. Well I had this before. But
it's it's like kind of falling in love a little bit, right,
like falling in friend love. And that's why I think
like platonic love is so important because you know, in
moments that I feel like you guys have been through
that I've seen you were able to really lean on
each other and in turn help other people, like you
(37:15):
know what I'm saying, Like it just is it's so
it's about healing the collective and when you guys are
both healing, your helping to heal your own, like generational
trauma or just lineage and stuff. It's so important to
open that up. And it's like what I was saying
before with like opening up a new community and network.
(37:35):
It's like, I feel like it looks like new Yeah,
what narrow passage nearrow passways where it's just like it's
so beautiful, And I feel like those pivotal moments besties
are like yeah, like you said, trauma bonding, Like for sure.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I feel like death. It could be a lot of
different things where you're like, damn, we both lost somebody
at the same time. You know, like, uh, it could
be jobs we're both dealing with.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Like you both got laid off.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, you were both We're trying to like, yes we
have between us. Where are we going to go eat?
You know?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yes, I feel like I had one. Well, I feel
like it it moves into like the lifers right after
you have that kind of pivotal moment where you're like,
oh my gosh, this is like a new bestie. It's
like you're in it for life, like and I feel
like I one of my friends from Vine, like we
don't really talk as much, but we went through something
(38:39):
we went through like the whole Vine experience and then
went to like this really weird influencer New Year's Eve party,
and that bonded us for life for sure, because it
was just like it was the first time I had
kissed a girl. It was the first time that like
(38:59):
it was which just so it was just so chaotic
and random. But the thing is is that we were
driving from Arizona to La to go to this party,
and we just had this like common dream to want
to get out of Arizona. I love Phoenix. I think
it's actually like way better than he used to be
(39:21):
and there's so much more accessibility to so many different things.
But at the time, it was just like a small
town and so we both like held each other like
our hands when we were like we're going to get
out of here, and like you we're going to end
up in La or we're going to end up like
in New York or Seattle or whatever. And then now
(39:41):
we look back and we're like we did it. Like
I'm in La. He's in I think Seattle. He's doing
like musical theater full time, and I think he might
be moving back to LA soon. But he's he's there
for life for me, you know, Like no matter how
much we talk, it still is like, you know, that's
(40:03):
just it, Like.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah, I feel like for me, lifers are like people
that I'm like, oh, baby girl, I'm sorry, you're in
it for life, Like I will always be a part
of your life. We might not check in on each
other all the time, but like I just recently said,
are rekindling maybe like four friendships. They were my best
friends in my twenties and we hadn't spoken to each
(40:25):
other seen each other in years. Years. We had like
a falling out, like we just didn't have the same
lifestyles and we like didn't agree with each other's politics.
Like there was a lot of different things happening. And
it was so funny because one of them I hadn't
seen in a very long time. His name's Lula. I
haven't seen him And I was like, his name's Louis,
(40:47):
but we call him Lula, And I was like, I
literally was like I need to see you, Like I'm
going to see you. I'm picking you up this weekend.
Where are we going? And when I dropped him off off,
we were like, isn't it so strange how it just
feels like no time has passed at all. It really
just feels like was there ever a time that we
(41:09):
weren't talking. Was there ever a time that we weren't
seeing each other? Literally, in the in the past three
weeks that we've rekindled, I've seen him like several times
already just to go hang out, sit on his couch,
sit there. And one of the things that we were
talking about is like, and this is what I love
about lifers is that lifers will have known you through
(41:29):
so many different spaces and parts of you as a person.
So when you find yourself in like a rut or
like this weird space in your life, your lifer besties
will kind of be like, that's not you, Like this
is who.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah, they're like your north note a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Like one of the things with him is he was
like when we were kids, like Lula was the gay
guy that everybody fell in love with. That every gay
guy that we went to, they'd be like, I move
out the way, Curly, who's that? Who's Lewis? Like he's perfect,
he's cute, Like and it's crazy because Louis, you know,
when we saw each other recently, he was like, I
look at you, Curly, and I think you're and we're bestie.
(42:08):
So there's nothing there. But he was like, you're golden,
Like you're the catch. Like I look at you and
I go, damn, I wish I could do this. And
I'm like, are you kidding me? I look at you
and I'm like, what the As I joke with him,
I'm like, I would never introduce you to any of
my boyfriends, Like I don't want to be the one
that's like I guess I'm still losing them to Lula.
But like we had a moment of being like I
(42:29):
think we came back into each other's lives at the
right moment to remind each other of each other's greatness
and each other's like light and be like, you know,
like I told him, You've always been a hard worker.
You've always been someone who despite circumstances or whatever's thrown
at you. This kid used to go he didn't have
a computer in our early twenties. He would go to
(42:49):
the public library every single day and work on his
resume on their computers, and he would start applying. He
would sart applying to jobs, and he finally did it.
He finally got like a really good job. He's been
working corporate for a minute. Anytime he was like, I'm
gonna work my way to get a car. He would
get himself a car, like he's been about it and
so being back in his life now, it's been such
(43:10):
a privilege to be able to go, Babes, You've been
about us since day one. I have watched you grow up.
I have seen what you have done with nothing. Keep going.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Those those are very important friends to have because best
used to have because like I said, like they are
your compass or your north node, where when you are
feeling not like yourself, they are there to be the
light and remind you like you're better than this or
you've always been you know, whatever it is. And yeah,
(43:46):
I feel I feel like.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
I feel like me and you are lifers. Right Like
even when we've had like big arguments or whatever, I've
always been like, my we're gonna make up anyways, Like
we're gonna there's no especially like the that I see it,
I'm like, there's no end to these relationships. It's like transformations.
It's very much like if you're in my life forever,
we're just like, uh, not get over it, but like
(44:12):
we're gonna get over the hump. Because I always say this,
I'm like the quality of friendship is not determined by
how well you get along, but by what you guys
can survive together as friends.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Well, you know, my friend trauma is like growing up
with a toxic girl group. Was they like two of
them just left me, Like they just completely at the
same time unfollowed me and ghosted me and never talked
to me ever again. And it was just so weird
and so wrong. And that's like I feel like I
have that friend trauma when fighting to me, or when
(44:47):
I do something wrong, or when there's some sort of
discomfort or the other person has like you know, made
me sad or hurt in a way like that is
what I was used to growing up. Is like, well
then I don't want to be your friend anymore. And
then that's just it, like well you're you're like moody,
or it took one thing, one thing for them to
(45:08):
just like leave, you know. So I feel like I
always retreat into like, well, this is the end of it.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I guess I think a lot of people do. I
really have heard a lot of people being like I
guess this is the end of the friend. I was
just talking to another friend of mine. He was telling
me that he and his best friend are arguing, and
he's like, I guess that's the end of our friendship.
And I'm like why like it for me?
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Like, I know it's the end of the friendship when
you have disrespected me beyond when you cannot you cannot
see my side at all, Like like with a friend
I used to live with, the friend that I used
to live with, huh, Like that shit was like so
disrespectful I cannot even But I.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Feel like that's not like best friends, right because I
feel like best friends would be like I don't necessarily
understand what you're saying, but I'm trying to. And then
I think that even that can be like we're trying
to and we're trying to figure it out, and it
can evolve. It doesn't necessarily have to end. But you're like,
I don't know, Like if you would have talked to
me a few years ago and you would have been like,
(46:10):
I'm a trump, but I'd be like, I'm trying to understand.
Oh god, but you.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Know what if the other person doesn't, you know.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
It has to be like any relationship.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
What about sibling besties? I feel like we cross over
to like sibling besties too.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yeah, we're like sibling besties and old made couple besties. Yeah,
I feel like I don't know. I feel like I
see you like a counterpart versus like I feel like
you're my sister. But I also don't see you like
as like, Yeah, I don't know. I feel like we
(46:49):
do have that sibling energy, but sibling energy can sometimes
be bratty with one another. I don't really feel like
we're bratty, not anymore. Who used to be Bratti? You?
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Me and you and you? We would take turns, we
would take turns.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
No, I'm kidding, No, for sure, for sure, I'm definitely
kidding because I know I was like Braddy. Oh my God, Like,
thank God for therapy, thank God for aging, thank God
for all the experiences of being able to come to
communication reflecting introspection, like you know, sibling besties. That's like
you and Gattio. You and Gotti are sibling besties. Really,
(47:30):
I think so you guys are very like you guys
will go at it. I feel like when you guys
talk about stuff like when we're mad at each other, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
When we are, well it's not even yeah, no, we'll
argue a little bit, but it's mostly like he'll be like,
well this happened. I'm like, well this made me feel
like this. Like we're very because I think he's obviously
Sagittarius and I'm an Aries, so we're very blunt and
I feel like we can take that also, and we
(48:00):
like recently, like not that we had like a huge dispute,
but you know a little tiff. And then I guess
we both thought that we were like mad at each other,
so we didn't talk for like a whole month, and
then he called me and he was like, don't abandon me.
You abandoned me. I'm like, you abandoned me. I thought
that you were mad at me. He's like, I thought
(48:21):
that you were mad at me. So yeah, it was
very much, Yeah, very much. Yeah, Brothers, Sister Energy. Welcome
to the astrology portion of the podcast. Which signs are
the best besties to have? Or which signs do you
(48:43):
think are the best besties? Like? Which signs do you
always see together? Who are besties?
Speaker 2 (48:47):
I find? Well, I kind of feel like all my
best friends are usually fire or water. I find that fire.
I love having friendships that inspire me and teach me,
and I feel like my fire signs are very like
like let's go, come on, don't give up, keep it moving,
(49:08):
let's keep going, let's do this. And then my water
signs are like, let's talk about it. What's happening. Oh yeah,
I can feel that, I can see where you're coming
from and this energy and blah blah blah blah blah.
Like so you know, my leos, my sadges, my aries,
they're just like burn the house down, let's fucking get going.
And then my water signs are like, it's okay to
(49:31):
feel like that was a toxic relationship for you, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Like right right, Yeah, A lot of mine are like
fire and a lot of air, a lot of Geminis, yeah, joys, yes,
and yeah, a lot of water as well. And Earth.
I think I think it's you. I think I only
have like a couple of Earth sign besties, but.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I feel like Earth signs are kind of interesting.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
But I have a lot of Sagittarius besties. I don't
have many Leo besties. Definitely want to, you know, take
that into account for this next year. I want to
like interact with more Leos. I don't know why. I
love like I want to date a Leo, I love.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
I think aries are fun besties to have.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
I don't know, just thinking about it or saying you
were thinking about it, and I just had to say
it the best that aries are the most fun besties
of every time.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Love aries. I am like even the guy that I
kind of am crushing on right now. When he told me,
I was like, I'm really digging this guy. He's so
fucking dope. He's so cool. And then he opened up
his mouth that he's an Aries. I was like, ah,
of course the march Aries. Oh, I think he's in
March Aries. We don't know if he is. We have
to I have to double check.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Well, I'm sensing that he's in March Aries because he
sounds cool, because that's just what it is sometimes. And listen,
you virgos, just give it up. You guys are in
love with aries.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Just get it. I always give it up. My my
north note is an aries. So of course I like
love aries so much.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
You like like like us, just say it.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
I told Izzy, the Arias of my twenties is what
I always say that he wants in a I guess
it was a passing comment because he didn't even remember,
but he was like, you're virgo, You're boring, Like why
are you so boring? And I was like I will
never be boring? So like that made me even more
like you want to go here, let's go. You want
to go over there, let's go. I'm gonna pick you
(51:33):
up in like that energy. You know how me, I'll
like text you at seven am and be like, let's
go to breakfast right now. Like that is very much
because of what Izzy did to my spirit back then
the aries. So I'm thinking I'm thankful for because I like,
I like that I have that in me. Shout out
to the air signs. Every air sign in my life
is so magical, Mesh Prada, Joyce, my dad like just
(51:56):
air signs that I'm like, God, bless you, God bless you.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
And that concludes the astrology portion of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Well, Wilmar, here we are again. It's the end of
another episode. How do you plead?
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Bestie, Bestie, Bessy best You're the best, best thing I've
ever had, better than the rest in the worst, the best,
You're the best, Bestie, You're the Okay what about you?
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Well? O final thoughts? You know, keep people who treat
you well close to you understand that relationships must like
much like everything else in the world, like the waves
of the ocean, like your waisteband like sometimes the money
in your bank account. They will fluctuate. But just know
(52:49):
that a good friend, no matter what, will always come back.
There will always be love. And also, if you're looking
for opportunity to text that best friend that you want
to rekindle with, do it. I promise you you'll love it.
And if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out again.
But get out there, ladies and Jensen. They them's Maya.
(53:10):
Where can people find you? On social media?
Speaker 1 (53:12):
You can find me at Maya in the Moment, m
a Ya in the Moment, anywhere where you scrol what
about you?
Speaker 2 (53:18):
You can find me at the Curly b Show on
Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Thank you so much for listening to another episode of
The Super Secret Bestie Club Podcast and we'll see you
in the next one.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Bye bye.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
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