September 14, 2022 • 38 mins
Grab your chanclas, hot Cheetos, and get ready for us to ask you dónde está el novio because we're diving into stereotypes in the Latinx community, how they affect us, and our experience with them as content creators. Get in here!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Chee cheetoa eto nova Selina by name switter, you should
sweater you. Oh my god, put lemon on every day anyway,
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you didn't hear you raging stereotype. My name is Curly
and I'm Maya and welcome to The Super Secret Best
Club podcast, A super secret club where we talked about
super secret things, a super secret, more time super secret.
In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendships, heartbreaks, men,
and of course our favorite secrets. Hello everyone, welcome back
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to another episode of The Super Secret Best Because Podcast.
Did I do that right? Mexican in the room? Stop
appropriating Mexicans in the room? Did I do that right?
So today we are talking about how Latino Latino Latino
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media has changed from our point of view. We have
both been on the internet for breaking years a decade
at this point. I mean I've been on it since
I was sixteen. How many years is that? I don't know,
thirty two. I've been on the Internet since I was like,
excuse me, I've been on the Internet since I was
like nineteen and I'm twenty two, so like not that long,
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but I don't know. There's botox on my face might
prove otherwise. Anyways, So we've been in the business for
a long time. We've been making Latino content for a
very long time. I actually even before was making Latino
stuff at BuzzFeed and kind of like uh, tapping into
things that were part of my culture growing up in
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l A. As the Salvadorian queer individual. Um. But we've
watched it kind of more into so many different things
now that just like I'm trying not to be shady
at all, but it's like you truly don't know what
it's like unless you've lived a long time throughout like
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these things changing. Like I started making YouTube videos and
doing I was like a teen blogger when I was sixteen,
and I was blogging about like crafts and and I
was like singing and I was making skits on YouTube,
and um, I made stuff before better like I made
stuff for this page called being Latino, which is like
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it was like me and Jay Mendoza, shoutout Jay Mendoza,
who like, oh yeah, huh yeah, so sweet. Like throughout
the entire like, I've met pretty much a lot of
the Mexican creators. And I was brought up at a
time during my like you know, my little like my
come up, Like I knew all of the Mexican influencers
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and they were all men, and although we're not that nice,
they were all doing the same thing. Jay was always
the one who stood out and was always so nice
to me and just made the funniest stuff. Um. But yeah,
we were making content at a time when nobody was
making content the way we were. And then when I
got to battle like, um, like, when I watched Bettle, like,
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I was like, oh my god, this is so cool
because not only are they playing into the relatability of
our culture, but it's funny. Like it's so funny, you know,
Like I really admired um. I thought like Curley was
so funny on the channel, and I really loved Jenny.
I was like, if I ever get there to BuzzFeed,
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I really want to be mentored by her. And then
what happened. But like, part of the reason why we
wanted to bring this up is because you know, we've
seen the transformation um YouTube to are like from vine
to YouTube to Facebook, Instagram and now TikTok like, and
we're just seeing kind of like reiterations of jokes that
either we already made or like things that are rooted
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in stereotypes and things that like, we're like, oh, we
did that, and it's not to be like the old
people that are like, oh we did that already, But
we did that already. But we did that already, you know,
I mean respectfully, humbly. Yeah, And there's a lot of people.
The thing that's really cool about UM, I don't want
to make it sound like we did that. I do
want to say that we do get a lot of
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people do give us our flowers. A lot people are
very kind to us, and they'll tell us like they
watched us, and people just treat us with a lot
of love and respect, which I really love and appreciate. Um.
But one of the things too that we saw was
that some people like hate um the content. I do
have a friend that was telling me how she saw
this tik talk about people hating on fedle like and
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every example that they showed was actually a meat video.
So I don't know in the day, back in the day, UM,
but we were like, we're not the same. We weren't
the same. We did a lot of things to stand out.
We did a lot of things on purpose to not
feed into stereotypes, which are really really hard. Um, and
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obviously like we're constantly learning and changing and growing. And
I've seen like I think one time I searched up
better like on Twitter. I saw so much critique when
I searched up better like on Twitter, and a lot
of people were critiquing some of the videos we made
that like all agree, we're like maybe not the most
um thought out or but it's also like at the
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time when you're making something at the time in that era,
it's like, so you don't know any better, you know better,
when once you know better, you do better. So I
remember at buzn't remember we had a meeting. It was me.
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It was kind of like the founders of Feddle, like right,
like the Latino creators at BuzzFeed, um and me. I
don't know why I often get forgotten, but I was
there in this table with them and we were talking
about how we can be in different departments and what
we can do. And I was in the illustrator department
and I was like, y'all make videos and I'll draw.
By the way, Curly is a great illustrator. Like I
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don't know if anyone knows that that that that like, yes,
you went from the kitchen but you then you started
to be on the animation animation side because I used
to draw, yeah, and then you got to beddle like
so it was like, yeah, I need to talk about
that too, to be honest. But you know, it was
interesting because for us, like we kind of were trailblazers
in our own way in terms of like making Latino
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Latino Latin X content, which also had changed that even
that we're changed the time that we were creating this
media for a major company, and we had like people
that we were competitive against, like it was better like
me through in l A which was predominantly Mexican Plama
in New York and uh, you know was really dope,
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and we kind of um you know, behind the scenes
we would see like we would get competitive, but in
a good way. It was fun. I think the really
cool thing about us is that we were very like
almost like hip hop and our attitude like we're the
greatest rappers in the game, but like you still gave
each other flowers, like you still were like, damn, we
do really handle that. I remember they would drop a
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video and would be like, Okay, we're gonna do this
video next, and then they would drop a video and
then we would drop the video and then they would
be like, oh my gosh. But we were all still
friends and still talking about the same issues that even
though we worked at these different companies and maybe met
was predominantly Mexican run by like you know, a Latina
and ours was like not, we were still going through
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the same issues of trying to push the needle of culture.
There's one story that they were wanting to get frieda
Gotto content out and they I think they were trying
to and then we dropped and I direct video creative
directed everything and it's such a beautiful video and I
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don't know who told me, but they told me that.
Everybody went around the computer and they were like, that's
a Curly video. It was because that video. That's I
missed those days too, because I remember we would all
be like what are you working on? And we would
pop in on set and Curly had all of these
like plants. Everything was filled with fresh real plants, plowers,
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the bug bites, and it was like so beautiful and
like yeah, And that's the type of shoot that would
set us apart, is that we would really like think
of things in a different way. We really put a
lot of thoughts into what we're doing and how can
we be different UM, and it's always like changing. I
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think one of the things that was really important to
me UM and a lot of the members of Federal
like was the diversity and how we could play into
things that were UM authentic but not tropish. So like,
how can we tap into the culture and how can
we tap into parts that are us and we celebrate it,
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but at the same time, they're not like stereotypes, right,
so like, uh, you know we're joking earlier, but like
junk lass and hot Cheetos and different music. But like,
but you know, how do we UM tap into different things?
And I think one of the things that was really
important to us in the beginning was like, yes we
can be Jolos, Yes we can be hood as Buck,
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Yes we can be like look because you know, everybody
in my family talks like this too, Like it's fine.
But also I do have family that our doctors and
have a neurosurgeon cousin, and I have a cousin who's
hood as Buck who puts like crazy things on his Instagram.
I mean, my identity was always being like the and
that was something that was people in the comments called
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me first, I never really know. I didn't really know
of that word until I got to Bettle, Like I
knew a little bit of it, but like everybody in
the comments were calling me like, oh, she's just the
and like all this stuff, and it's like a really
offensive word. And even when like I started using it
to like kind of take it back, there's articles that
people wrote like that problematic why because like you were
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the first like that. I remember, like there was nobody
that I remember who was not only owning that identity
of not being able to speak Spanish that well, but
making it funny and likable, right, because now we have
like no sabo, Right, I've always known it. That's one
thing I've always known. Like it's just like, yeah, it
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was not it was not a thing because even when
you joined Better, like people didn't even want you on
the team. There was I mean even myself I told
you were they were like there's a new girl starting
and I was like, what does she speak Spanish? Like no,
nobody likes and then you enjoined and I was like
and then I made them far in love with me
because exactly, but like, yeah, it was like a thing
where we were like a lot of times, the first
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of our kind on this Yeah. And it was hard because,
like I reclaimed that word for myself because people were
calling me that and it was very hurtful. They're calling
me whitewash americanized, and I decided to use but goncha
also because you called me that, Yeah, because you had
on your desk. Yeah. And I love gonchas like naturally,
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like not even using it as a stereotype at all,
like me and like one of my favorite memberies. I
feel like I'm going to cry it. No, I don't
want to one of my Oh no, I didn't even
want to say what it is? What is it? I
don't know you'read it here in First America. No, I mean,
like one of my favorite memories of my grandma with
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my nannies, like eating guns with her and coffee and
so like that was like a little piece of home
for me from I'm sorry, I didn't know I had
Frecic was like, yeah, I don't freckle appropriate. Yeah, I
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mean the reason why I loved so much was because
my family and I would eat them all. It was
a bonding thing. So I would I had to bring
something from home because being Mexican in Arizona is different
than being Mexican in California. Absolutely, like totally it's a
different experience. Our Mexican food is better here. Um okay,
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no comment about where's the Mexican food better and no
comment l A Arizona or Texas. It's all different every
single Honestly. I think Wana is really good. Um in
Mexico City. When we went to Mexico City was amazing. Um.
But yeah, so I offend stically used these things for
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myself as a form of like keeping my culture, and
so when we used like the word, it was a
term of endearment for me instead of something that made
me feel less than, which is what the audience was
trying to do. And like it wasn't the end of
the world, but it not only did I have a
shaky experience with my identity like already, but then to
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have people confirm that I was like either I'm gonna
like go home and say I tried, or I'm gonna
fucking bust through this ship and be proud of being.
Like I remember being in that meeting with you and
you saying your ideas, and I had like a little
bit of a lightbulb moment. I think I've always like
I'll look at here people and I'll have that moment
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of like no, no, no, that can work. And I
remember that you pitched the idea of like not when
you're bad at being Latina, and I was like, yeah,
you know. Um, the other things too, is like there
was a study that we got back I forget who,
I don't know who did it, but basically we got
this data that showed that fatal like was ahead of
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the curve. They were ahead of it, ahead of the
game in a lot of ways because we were talking
about a lot of issues. When I tell you that
all the media that is out right now in terms
of talking about black Latina people, trans latin their people,
non binary people, people who are at the Latino table
who didn't don't speak Spanish, all these different When I
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tell you that nobody was talking about this ship and
we were creating like content on the daily about it,
I don't know, Um, we weren't qualified to do that,
Like as far as we were learning from each other learning, yes,
but and also luckily we had a lot of um,
not a lot, but like some Latinos in the news
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organ at our at BuzzFeed, who would say, hey, you
guys need to talk about this, or we would clarify
and fact check things with um um. But I mean
in terms of like micro and macro identities ahead of
the game. I think it even showed that we were
ahead of the game, ahead of tell. And we're not
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saying this to like toot our own horn, but like
to too. But also like I'm just saying, like some
people take it a different way, um, because if you
weren't around during that time, you just don't know and
what sounds different. Um. So it's interesting that we are
getting a little bit of backlash to some capacity or
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some people will hate on us, because it's like when
you're the first, you're gonna fall on yourself. You're gonna
learn things in the moment, you're going to funk up inevitably.
Like we did not have good budgets, We did not
have a lot of support from our major companies, really not,
and like we had a lot of white people around
us telling us we should like to do about certain things,
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certain things, and like at the time when I got
to Battle, like I had three white managers, Like it
wasn't until maybe I was there for a couple of
years that we barely got Latina manager. Before that, we
needed a Latina or Latina um social person because when
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we would title the videos, remember we would be like
five things of whatever, blah blah blah. They're like, uh,
well it doesn't really do well. Try grandmother. Yeah. Yeah,
it's such an interesting thing, just all the things that
we had. So it's interesting to kind of get like
this backlash. But we were in it for so long
and then we kind of got tired of it. Yeah,
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I got I felt like I had no nothing else
to really say because I had done like basically like
we all in our time there had done many docks
of our lives. I did a couple of my Spanish journey.
I did some of my love journey of my body
image journey, like I just you know, And I also
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didn't want to take up a lot of space continuing
with my whole thing of like I'm learning Spanish, because
it's like I'm still learning Spanish, like give it to
some like give give the spotlight to somebody else. Because
somebody asked me the other day like would you ever
go back to battle like and I was like no,
Like the people who are there now deserved the spotlight,
like they deserve to have that. I already did that,
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Like I want it different and like I don't know,
catering to a Latino Latino audience is hard. It is
difficult because that too, like why is it difficult? Catering
to Latino audience or Latino audience is hard because there
are so many subcultures like there and and experiences living
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in between the hyphen and then there's like Latin America,
like there's being being Latino in America. Then there's like
you know, being there like us market us born Latinos.
A lot of their identity is from their parents, and
we were I think about this before because we were
like and our parents identity is rooted in their country
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thirty years ago. So it's like if I were to
be like man l A and the eighties, it was
just and then you're like that I have a different
experience because my parents countries America. Their parents country was split,
was Mexico and America. So it's like they came to
America to be and they wanted to be whitewashed in
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americanized out of survival. Our experience are different, Our experiences
are different, so how do you create content that makes
us both feel seen and hurt. Yeah, but it's impossible.
But also there's the thing of like the things that
connect us are sometimes the stereotypes. It's sometimes like the
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like for me, people go fabuloso, like we used like
a cheap pinsall we used like the bootleg pintsall in
our house, you know, so like fabuloso from me. I'm like,
you know, for us, like I never got the chunkil
my parents went straight for the belt. I've never had
a chunk, I mean in my life. You know. Um,
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there's just different things that it was kind of hard
to create. I think the thing with the audience, and
this is what I always talk about across all aspects
of Latino media is like not only the people creating it,
but the people watching it, like the people taking in
the content. They also there are also partners in this
dance because a lot of times what happens is like
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if the stereotypes or the tropes aren't there, people think
that it's not authentic. Where where's the junk joke? Yes,
so we don't have to put done it like hot cheetos.
And there are a lot of creators who have built
their platform off of hot Cheeto content, and I don't
want to knock on their hustle because like they've made
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beautiful careers, have like mansions and cars and everything. And
it's like, for sure, like go ahead, but at one
point are you going to acknowledge that you are responsible
for playing into stereotypes but you're also responsible for making
people feel happy and seen and love their culture even
more so, it's you know, my favorite chips are detO Flamas,
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not hot Cheetos. And my sister, who was hoot as
fuck in the nineties, her favorite word cheddar, ruffles. Her
favorite word, her favorite chips, cheddar ruffles. You're speaking in
a different language to me. Wait, what are they called ruffles?
Cheddar ruffles? Cheddar ruffles, ruffles? It just doesn't sound right.
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Cheddar ruffles, ruffles, cheddar and sour cream ruffles, ched ruffles,
cheddo sour queens. And you know what else we used
to eat too, because I don't think we had hot
cheets growing up. We would eat fritos and we will
and then shake the We ate hot cheetos, but a
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lot of lime, a lot of like that growing up
in the nineties with like with me, and like my
cousins that I think we didn't have. I don't remember
how cheetos like that. So what a horrible experience. I'm
so sorry. I mean, we had a lot this. We
had rasparos on the street. That's the other thing too.
By the way, that I miss about old school l
A is like it didn't matter where you were, there's
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always a truck selling um vegetables and fruits in front
of your house. There's always a signor um selling And
our version of ding dong ditch just we'd be like,
oh yeah, and we would hide like the corn. We'reight
years old as rude as, but like that's what we do.
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The interesting thing right now that we're seeing is that
gen Z is kind of coming for millennials, which is
us kind of you I'm three. Yeah, it's very interesting
because they're like, oh my god, it was so cringe
when they did X, Y and Z. But it's like
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that's what everyone was doing back then, you know, like
I bet you the generation after them. But we talked
about this in our other episodes. We're going to come
for them. We're talking about it's it's giving white, it's
giving Western culture. But let the ne gen zs are
saying these things though the content meets who used to
make butter like like all of them are responsible for
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blah blah blah blah. I'm like, are we Like no,
It's like this thing of like, first of all, who
wasn't angry when they were like enterteens and twelve years old?
Like I was very mad as well. Um. I feel
like as you get older, you kind of calmed down
about things and you kind of understand like, oh, I
see why you did those things, Like I see why
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as uh cultures that are often depressed and forgotten why
you have to do certain things. And you have to
realize at the time when we were making this content,
it was YouTube and Facebook. We were not making content
for Instagram yet no Twitter, there's no TikTok, there was
no short form things. Yeah. I remember when we were like,
we need an Instagram and better like did not have
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an Instagram like we need And we were the ones
the team was the one who even I was the
one who was like we needed TikTok, were like we
need TikTok like nobody and now they're like profitting off
of TikTok And I'm like, where's my money, but things
like that where we were like, we're not doing it
for ourselves, like we're doing it because we want to
be on TikTok, we want to be on Instagram, we
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want to be on these platforms that are like doing
these things. But yeah, it's just interesting when I see
kind of like critiques of p L and and when
gen zars are talking, because I'm like, you haven't really
lived yet enough to understand where we were. But yes,
there were some things that I think everyone has done
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that you know, we learn about, like I'll take accountability
for all that stuff. I mean definitely accountability like across
the board, like that's whatever. Aybody should healthy human should
be taking kindability for stain things. But I also, to
be honest, I haven't seen or heard a lot of it.
I'm not on Twitter. And sometimes we would be in videos.
I wouldn't really know what the video was about. They
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would just say, hey, talk about x Y and Z
your experience, and then I would see this video is
like when you're x Y and Z, I'm like, oh,
I didn't know that. But because you wanted to help
out your coworkers and you wanted to also be in
videos and I wanted to, like you thought you were helping,
but like, where do you feel like Latino media is
going now? Honestly, I like where it's going. I like
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that these new people are like, you know, even though
sometimes they see the recycling some of the things that
we're doing, they're doing it in a way that's funny
and that is also touching on topics that we never
touched on. Um and I think it's um. They call
out people and they are very strong in that, and
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I don't think we I'm we would call out people
back in the day, but like they do it in
a way that's very very quick, smart, um efficient. I mean,
part of our goal, I think we better like was
to open up the doors for there to be everybody
at the table, everyone's voice to be heard, all these
amazing things. And in a way it happened right like
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not because of us, but because of like different platforms.
But like in a way we are seeing that and
I think it is amazing to hear about different people
talking about different things, different ideas, more people bringing their
own unique experiences of living within the intersectionality of our
identities and putting them on platforms, you know, and speaking
up for themselves, and there's more accessibility to to make
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content because you yes, you can make content on your
phone and uploaded to YouTube, but you like, you know,
trying to edit and all that stuff, Like it's so
accessible to get your point across, to make somebody laugh
or express yourself like And I think that's what I
love about like the Internet nowadays is that people are
so creative and us as a culture, we just have
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such a beautiful culture, and we are evolving as we
go and as these generations come up, like they are
changing the narrative constantly, and I have so much respect
for that, and um, I can't wait to see where
we're going to be at you know, a couple of years.
I'm excited to continue to see people talking about the
things that I was passionate about, like was like the colorism,
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the racism, the misogyny, the gender binaries and all these things.
Like I'm excited to see the younger generations kind of
bring it up and talk about it because that was
something that was really important to me as a creator
at better like um which is uh still very important
to me to learn about every single day. So I
like that young kids and we didn't go to school.
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We didn't go to college. Yeah, and we dropped out.
So it's nice as you call it. It's nicely college
college educated making content. You want to say that at
the end of the day, like we're so proud of everyone.
We don't hate, we're celebrators, we love people. We love
to see our community doing the damn thing. It's just hard.
And I know, I know the tiktoker's or instagrammers like
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who are gen z and coming up? I know they're
experiencing their own hardships with all of this stuff too.
So what I'm saying also is like you two will
understand like the complexities of creating content for because we're
not a monolith, like you know, it's it's complex, absolutely,
But yeah, I think it's changed. I think it's it's
changed a lot, but it also has not changed a lot.
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It just got the joke's just got shorter. They're just
packaged in a different way, you know. Welcome to the
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astrology portion of the podcast. Since we're talking about tereotypes,
which sign actually is their stereotype? Yeah? Which sign? Do
we feel like falls into the stereotype category? I don't
feel like I'm like a typical aries, like because there's
also differences between like the stereotypical ariaes is like loud
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and they're rare, you know, in in intense. I find
that the one trait that I think about aries and sangitarious.
Maybe Aquarius does y'all stay distracted? You're like, I'm going
to do I'm like that as well, But I think
it's because I have seventy two things lined up in
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my head. But I'm like, okay, I did A, B
and C. Virgos are definitely they're stereotyped to a t um,
but it's just different because each virgo is like I
think they express a different area of their virgo nous. Yeah. Absolutely,
but I think you're very much like not a teak,
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but you have a high standard. Yeah. I once saw
those things as a kid that said virgos are most
likely to get paid for their opinion, and I literally
get me wow, true and the same thing. Yeah, and
I was that I don't like that. What about geminis.
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I feel like geminis, I do you think that the
two faced thing is real? I don't know about to face.
I think they have two different personalities. I'm like, who
is that? But The thing is I was talking to
a Gemini yesterday about this, and I was like, people
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don't allow you to express two parts of yourself. They
just want you to be the same thing because it's familiar.
So like if you don't want to go, if you
want to go to this party tonight, you want to
have a ranger cool, And then the next weekend, like
we're going to this party and they're actually, no, I
don't want to go. They're like, in a split second,
they can change their mind. And people don't like that
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because they like consistency. But it's also like allow them
to be themselves, like if they don't like I know,
if I'm with like any one of my Gemini friends
and this because this is how I am too, Like
one day I know to expect, not to expect anything
because they're going to change their mind, and which is fine.
I'm like, do you think, like who I am when
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you meet me is who I am in private? Meet person?
I feel like I'll meet you and be like I'm insecure,
Like I'll tell you that in the line of super
market and then I'll tell you, but I'm confident at
the same time, I feel like I don't know yeah,
because I'm trying to compare our science to Geminis. I
feel like Geminis will give you one thing in private
(30:45):
and then a whole that's different. Can we experience that? Yeah?
I will say that, and sometimes I'll catch them on
it and be like, this is how you feel about
this person. You need to be that consistent with them.
I r L Yeah, exactly, I know. I know so
that I will say, yes, what about I was gonna say, tourists, Okay,
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tourist is My mom's a tourists. One of my best
use as a tourist. My sister is a tourist. The
man that I'm dating right now is a tourist. Um,
just a lot of tory. I know, tarais, this is tourist. Um.
I find that they are very loyal, super loving, mega
stubborn like that, And sometimes I'm like I can't. I'm
(31:32):
stubborn already. I'm like, go be stubborn in that corner
over there, because interesting cause people think like stubborn is cute.
I'm stubborn. It's cute. No, this is like they're bull
they're bulls. My mom's face like, Selena, how do you like?
Like like she gets swollen, like when she doesn't want
to admit some things. She's like, and I'm like, it's
okay to say, it's okay to say sorry. You just
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say sorry. It's fine. Capricorns, Capricorns, Okay, I'm gonna start.
I want to be nice because we've done forty nine episodes,
and I believe forty seven episodes I've dragged them. So
for this, I feel like what I love about Capricorns
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as they get shipped done, and that is that is
true to their stereotypes, the stereotype which I love to
see very much. Elvis Presley prabmatic as Elvis. We just
saw his movie Tomato Tomato. I thought it was good,
problematic prabmatics. And Dolly Parton is a Capricorn. Dolly Parton
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as well. They get ship the ship done. Dolly Parton
was writing like, because Capricorns are just like on Spiritual Crime,
I respect that about that. I wish I had that.
People were like, there's the organized they get it done.
I'm like, no, it's the capricorn up in here. And
sometimes it's hard to take that and concept realize it
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because I'm the same need a capricorn next to them
that's that's true. What about lightning round? Okay? Leo's um,
I find that their stereotypes are they are mega anal
about finmeliness a lot of times they Yeah, I find
that Leo's and never known a Leo that's like that
at all, And I'm surrounded by Leo's Leo's are they
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live up to their pridefulness. But the pridefulness can be
in different areas of their life, so it could be
like within their work or themselves. There's most of the
time it's like self image. My brother is a double
Leo and he is very prideful, sometimes in the wrong way.
Thank you for using a coaster. Oh yeah, absolutely. I
do find that Leo's are have a little bit of
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an ego. Do you think you have an ego? These
are producers, by the way, I feel like am I
saying no online Ama de Leo too because of my
Pisces rising. I'm sorry for the both of you, August
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and Josie are are produced serious. But yeah, I find
that Leo's have that. I'm a double fire sign with
the with the water signed rising, so that's interesting too.
Who else do we miss? Sad? We kind of stretched
up a little bit how they're a little like such
terrrius definitely live up to their stereotype because there's so
much fun. I love them so much. My mom's and
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such terarious. I have a lot of best friends who
are such es. You can't get down, No, but neither
can I. Yeah, yeah, I said that about areas. I
literally are did you group us all in one? I
spent on talking about virgo out of respect for you,
and I got grouped into And where is bro? I've
done with this? We've done in this segment is and
(34:52):
that who do we forget? Though? Librett cancer? Cancers, cancers love.
I just love how much cancers not know love if
it weren't for all the cancers A squishy and cancers
I mean too, but I'm just like, say, what you're
really thinking with all of that, like passive aggressive? I
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love my cancer from me that I feel like cancers
are grumpy because they give so much love, And then
it doesn't get that I'm like, and I'm like, I
like crab, I do like crab. I love. That concludes
our zodiac section. So basically, um, yeah, Latino media, Latin
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A media has changed in so many different ways, and
it'll continue to change UM and I'm here for it.
I think one of the biggest things that I think
you can do as a creator is um create longevity
for yourself and to evolve. Like very much we could
have been those people that are like these people these days,
you're making all of these things and and not evolved,
(36:01):
like you know, in the way they're making TikTok's Like
I had to step back and be like, Okay, my
videos aren't working on TikTok. Let me see what they're doing,
let me see what the platform is, and let me
see what these other people are like, how do we
exchangeable information between the generals and taking accountability for some
things that you were not educated on or maybe you
were wrong about, and learning and doing better, like there's
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nothing wrong with that. I have since day one, always
been excited about UH, specifically because I'm a queer individual.
I've always been excited about diversity, and I'm excited to
see that now more than ever. We're seeing that more
and more across platforms. We're seeing that more and more
on bigger channels like you know, networks. We're seeing people
try We have a long way to go, a long
(36:46):
long way because we didn't even get into TV and film.
We didn't get We have not seen enough Black Latinos.
We have not seen Asian Latinos. We have not seen
like so indigenous people villain exactly, who are like living
in the intersectionally intersectionality of identities within the culture. Um
And I'm excited to see it grow and keep going
(37:09):
and we'll be watching and we'll be playing along like
learning and growing. So um this of course we just
want to send everybody so much love. Keep doing you
um and you are valid whatever lane you in, whatever
lane you in, whatever lane you are in, you are
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Did I do that right? Mexican in the room? Stop
appropriating Mexicans in the room? Did I do that right?
So today we are talking about how Latino Latino Latino
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media has changed from our point of view. We have
both been on the internet for breaking years a decade
at this point. I mean I've been on it since
I was sixteen. How many years is that? I don't know,
thirty two. I've been on the Internet since I was like,
excuse me, I've been on the Internet since I was
like nineteen and I'm twenty two, so like not that long,
(01:36):
but I don't know. There's botox on my face might
prove otherwise. Anyways, So we've been in the business for
a long time. We've been making Latino content for a
very long time. I actually even before was making Latino
stuff at BuzzFeed and kind of like uh, tapping into
things that were part of my culture growing up in
(01:58):
l A. As the Salvadorian queer individual. Um. But we've
watched it kind of more into so many different things
now that just like I'm trying not to be shady
at all, but it's like you truly don't know what
it's like unless you've lived a long time throughout like
(02:20):
these things changing. Like I started making YouTube videos and
doing I was like a teen blogger when I was sixteen,
and I was blogging about like crafts and and I
was like singing and I was making skits on YouTube,
and um, I made stuff before better like I made
stuff for this page called being Latino, which is like
(02:42):
it was like me and Jay Mendoza, shoutout Jay Mendoza,
who like, oh yeah, huh yeah, so sweet. Like throughout
the entire like, I've met pretty much a lot of
the Mexican creators. And I was brought up at a
time during my like you know, my little like my
come up, Like I knew all of the Mexican influencers
(03:06):
and they were all men, and although we're not that nice,
they were all doing the same thing. Jay was always
the one who stood out and was always so nice
to me and just made the funniest stuff. Um. But yeah,
we were making content at a time when nobody was
making content the way we were. And then when I
got to battle like, um, like, when I watched Bettle, like,
(03:28):
I was like, oh my god, this is so cool
because not only are they playing into the relatability of
our culture, but it's funny. Like it's so funny, you know,
Like I really admired um. I thought like Curley was
so funny on the channel, and I really loved Jenny.
I was like, if I ever get there to BuzzFeed,
(03:50):
I really want to be mentored by her. And then
what happened. But like, part of the reason why we
wanted to bring this up is because you know, we've
seen the transformation um YouTube to are like from vine
to YouTube to Facebook, Instagram and now TikTok like, and
we're just seeing kind of like reiterations of jokes that
either we already made or like things that are rooted
(04:14):
in stereotypes and things that like, we're like, oh, we
did that, and it's not to be like the old
people that are like, oh we did that already, But
we did that already. But we did that already, you know,
I mean respectfully, humbly. Yeah, And there's a lot of people.
The thing that's really cool about UM, I don't want
to make it sound like we did that. I do
want to say that we do get a lot of
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people do give us our flowers. A lot people are
very kind to us, and they'll tell us like they
watched us, and people just treat us with a lot
of love and respect, which I really love and appreciate. Um.
But one of the things too that we saw was
that some people like hate um the content. I do
have a friend that was telling me how she saw
this tik talk about people hating on fedle like and
(04:55):
every example that they showed was actually a meat video.
So I don't know in the day, back in the day, UM,
but we were like, we're not the same. We weren't
the same. We did a lot of things to stand out.
We did a lot of things on purpose to not
feed into stereotypes, which are really really hard. Um, and
(05:15):
obviously like we're constantly learning and changing and growing. And
I've seen like I think one time I searched up
better like on Twitter. I saw so much critique when
I searched up better like on Twitter, and a lot
of people were critiquing some of the videos we made
that like all agree, we're like maybe not the most
um thought out or but it's also like at the
(05:38):
time when you're making something at the time in that era,
it's like, so you don't know any better, you know better,
when once you know better, you do better. So I
remember at buzn't remember we had a meeting. It was me.
(06:00):
It was kind of like the founders of Feddle, like right,
like the Latino creators at BuzzFeed, um and me. I
don't know why I often get forgotten, but I was
there in this table with them and we were talking
about how we can be in different departments and what
we can do. And I was in the illustrator department
and I was like, y'all make videos and I'll draw.
By the way, Curly is a great illustrator. Like I
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don't know if anyone knows that that that that like, yes,
you went from the kitchen but you then you started
to be on the animation animation side because I used
to draw, yeah, and then you got to beddle like
so it was like, yeah, I need to talk about
that too, to be honest. But you know, it was
interesting because for us, like we kind of were trailblazers
in our own way in terms of like making Latino
(06:45):
Latino Latin X content, which also had changed that even
that we're changed the time that we were creating this
media for a major company, and we had like people
that we were competitive against, like it was better like
me through in l A which was predominantly Mexican Plama
in New York and uh, you know was really dope,
(07:09):
and we kind of um you know, behind the scenes
we would see like we would get competitive, but in
a good way. It was fun. I think the really
cool thing about us is that we were very like
almost like hip hop and our attitude like we're the
greatest rappers in the game, but like you still gave
each other flowers, like you still were like, damn, we
do really handle that. I remember they would drop a
(07:30):
video and would be like, Okay, we're gonna do this
video next, and then they would drop a video and
then we would drop the video and then they would
be like, oh my gosh. But we were all still
friends and still talking about the same issues that even
though we worked at these different companies and maybe met
was predominantly Mexican run by like you know, a Latina
and ours was like not, we were still going through
(07:53):
the same issues of trying to push the needle of culture.
There's one story that they were wanting to get frieda
Gotto content out and they I think they were trying
to and then we dropped and I direct video creative
directed everything and it's such a beautiful video and I
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don't know who told me, but they told me that.
Everybody went around the computer and they were like, that's
a Curly video. It was because that video. That's I
missed those days too, because I remember we would all
be like what are you working on? And we would
pop in on set and Curly had all of these
like plants. Everything was filled with fresh real plants, plowers,
(08:40):
the bug bites, and it was like so beautiful and
like yeah, And that's the type of shoot that would
set us apart, is that we would really like think
of things in a different way. We really put a
lot of thoughts into what we're doing and how can
we be different UM, and it's always like changing. I
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think one of the things that was really important to
me UM and a lot of the members of Federal
like was the diversity and how we could play into
things that were UM authentic but not tropish. So like,
how can we tap into the culture and how can
we tap into parts that are us and we celebrate it,
(09:23):
but at the same time, they're not like stereotypes, right,
so like, uh, you know we're joking earlier, but like
junk lass and hot Cheetos and different music. But like,
but you know, how do we UM tap into different things?
And I think one of the things that was really
important to us in the beginning was like, yes we
can be Jolos, Yes we can be hood as Buck,
(09:44):
Yes we can be like look because you know, everybody
in my family talks like this too, Like it's fine.
But also I do have family that our doctors and
have a neurosurgeon cousin, and I have a cousin who's
hood as Buck who puts like crazy things on his Instagram.
I mean, my identity was always being like the and
that was something that was people in the comments called
(10:07):
me first, I never really know. I didn't really know
of that word until I got to Bettle, Like I
knew a little bit of it, but like everybody in
the comments were calling me like, oh, she's just the
and like all this stuff, and it's like a really
offensive word. And even when like I started using it
to like kind of take it back, there's articles that
people wrote like that problematic why because like you were
(10:31):
the first like that. I remember, like there was nobody
that I remember who was not only owning that identity
of not being able to speak Spanish that well, but
making it funny and likable, right, because now we have
like no sabo, Right, I've always known it. That's one
thing I've always known. Like it's just like, yeah, it
(10:53):
was not it was not a thing because even when
you joined Better, like people didn't even want you on
the team. There was I mean even myself I told
you were they were like there's a new girl starting
and I was like, what does she speak Spanish? Like no,
nobody likes and then you enjoined and I was like
and then I made them far in love with me
because exactly, but like, yeah, it was like a thing
where we were like a lot of times, the first
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of our kind on this Yeah. And it was hard because,
like I reclaimed that word for myself because people were
calling me that and it was very hurtful. They're calling
me whitewash americanized, and I decided to use but goncha
also because you called me that, Yeah, because you had
on your desk. Yeah. And I love gonchas like naturally,
(11:36):
like not even using it as a stereotype at all,
like me and like one of my favorite memberies. I
feel like I'm going to cry it. No, I don't
want to one of my Oh no, I didn't even
want to say what it is? What is it? I
don't know you'read it here in First America. No, I mean,
like one of my favorite memories of my grandma with
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my nannies, like eating guns with her and coffee and
so like that was like a little piece of home
for me from I'm sorry, I didn't know I had
Frecic was like, yeah, I don't freckle appropriate. Yeah, I
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mean the reason why I loved so much was because
my family and I would eat them all. It was
a bonding thing. So I would I had to bring
something from home because being Mexican in Arizona is different
than being Mexican in California. Absolutely, like totally it's a
different experience. Our Mexican food is better here. Um okay,
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no comment about where's the Mexican food better and no
comment l A Arizona or Texas. It's all different every
single Honestly. I think Wana is really good. Um in
Mexico City. When we went to Mexico City was amazing. Um.
But yeah, so I offend stically used these things for
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myself as a form of like keeping my culture, and
so when we used like the word, it was a
term of endearment for me instead of something that made
me feel less than, which is what the audience was
trying to do. And like it wasn't the end of
the world, but it not only did I have a
shaky experience with my identity like already, but then to
(13:27):
have people confirm that I was like either I'm gonna
like go home and say I tried, or I'm gonna
fucking bust through this ship and be proud of being.
Like I remember being in that meeting with you and
you saying your ideas, and I had like a little
bit of a lightbulb moment. I think I've always like
I'll look at here people and I'll have that moment
(13:47):
of like no, no, no, that can work. And I
remember that you pitched the idea of like not when
you're bad at being Latina, and I was like, yeah,
you know. Um, the other things too, is like there
was a study that we got back I forget who,
I don't know who did it, but basically we got
this data that showed that fatal like was ahead of
(14:09):
the curve. They were ahead of it, ahead of the
game in a lot of ways because we were talking
about a lot of issues. When I tell you that
all the media that is out right now in terms
of talking about black Latina people, trans latin their people,
non binary people, people who are at the Latino table
who didn't don't speak Spanish, all these different When I
(14:30):
tell you that nobody was talking about this ship and
we were creating like content on the daily about it,
I don't know, Um, we weren't qualified to do that,
Like as far as we were learning from each other learning, yes,
but and also luckily we had a lot of um,
not a lot, but like some Latinos in the news
(14:52):
organ at our at BuzzFeed, who would say, hey, you
guys need to talk about this, or we would clarify
and fact check things with um um. But I mean
in terms of like micro and macro identities ahead of
the game. I think it even showed that we were
ahead of the game, ahead of tell. And we're not
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saying this to like toot our own horn, but like
to too. But also like I'm just saying, like some
people take it a different way, um, because if you
weren't around during that time, you just don't know and
what sounds different. Um. So it's interesting that we are
getting a little bit of backlash to some capacity or
(15:33):
some people will hate on us, because it's like when
you're the first, you're gonna fall on yourself. You're gonna
learn things in the moment, you're going to funk up inevitably.
Like we did not have good budgets, We did not
have a lot of support from our major companies, really not,
and like we had a lot of white people around
us telling us we should like to do about certain things,
(15:54):
certain things, and like at the time when I got
to Battle, like I had three white managers, Like it
wasn't until maybe I was there for a couple of
years that we barely got Latina manager. Before that, we
needed a Latina or Latina um social person because when
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we would title the videos, remember we would be like
five things of whatever, blah blah blah. They're like, uh,
well it doesn't really do well. Try grandmother. Yeah. Yeah,
it's such an interesting thing, just all the things that
we had. So it's interesting to kind of get like
this backlash. But we were in it for so long
and then we kind of got tired of it. Yeah,
(16:40):
I got I felt like I had no nothing else
to really say because I had done like basically like
we all in our time there had done many docks
of our lives. I did a couple of my Spanish journey.
I did some of my love journey of my body
image journey, like I just you know, And I also
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didn't want to take up a lot of space continuing
with my whole thing of like I'm learning Spanish, because
it's like I'm still learning Spanish, like give it to
some like give give the spotlight to somebody else. Because
somebody asked me the other day like would you ever
go back to battle like and I was like no,
Like the people who are there now deserved the spotlight,
like they deserve to have that. I already did that,
(17:22):
Like I want it different and like I don't know,
catering to a Latino Latino audience is hard. It is
difficult because that too, like why is it difficult? Catering
to Latino audience or Latino audience is hard because there
are so many subcultures like there and and experiences living
(17:43):
in between the hyphen and then there's like Latin America,
like there's being being Latino in America. Then there's like
you know, being there like us market us born Latinos.
A lot of their identity is from their parents, and
we were I think about this before because we were
like and our parents identity is rooted in their country
(18:05):
thirty years ago. So it's like if I were to
be like man l A and the eighties, it was
just and then you're like that I have a different
experience because my parents countries America. Their parents country was split,
was Mexico and America. So it's like they came to
America to be and they wanted to be whitewashed in
(18:26):
americanized out of survival. Our experience are different, Our experiences
are different, so how do you create content that makes
us both feel seen and hurt. Yeah, but it's impossible.
But also there's the thing of like the things that
connect us are sometimes the stereotypes. It's sometimes like the
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like for me, people go fabuloso, like we used like
a cheap pinsall we used like the bootleg pintsall in
our house, you know, so like fabuloso from me. I'm like,
you know, for us, like I never got the chunkil
my parents went straight for the belt. I've never had
a chunk, I mean in my life. You know. Um,
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there's just different things that it was kind of hard
to create. I think the thing with the audience, and
this is what I always talk about across all aspects
of Latino media is like not only the people creating it,
but the people watching it, like the people taking in
the content. They also there are also partners in this
dance because a lot of times what happens is like
(19:29):
if the stereotypes or the tropes aren't there, people think
that it's not authentic. Where where's the junk joke? Yes,
so we don't have to put done it like hot cheetos.
And there are a lot of creators who have built
their platform off of hot Cheeto content, and I don't
want to knock on their hustle because like they've made
(19:50):
beautiful careers, have like mansions and cars and everything. And
it's like, for sure, like go ahead, but at one
point are you going to acknowledge that you are responsible
for playing into stereotypes but you're also responsible for making
people feel happy and seen and love their culture even
more so, it's you know, my favorite chips are detO Flamas,
(20:10):
not hot Cheetos. And my sister, who was hoot as
fuck in the nineties, her favorite word cheddar, ruffles. Her
favorite word, her favorite chips, cheddar ruffles. You're speaking in
a different language to me. Wait, what are they called ruffles?
Cheddar ruffles? Cheddar ruffles, ruffles? It just doesn't sound right.
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Cheddar ruffles, ruffles, cheddar and sour cream ruffles, ched ruffles,
cheddo sour queens. And you know what else we used
to eat too, because I don't think we had hot
cheets growing up. We would eat fritos and we will
and then shake the We ate hot cheetos, but a
(20:53):
lot of lime, a lot of like that growing up
in the nineties with like with me, and like my
cousins that I think we didn't have. I don't remember
how cheetos like that. So what a horrible experience. I'm
so sorry. I mean, we had a lot this. We
had rasparos on the street. That's the other thing too.
By the way, that I miss about old school l
A is like it didn't matter where you were, there's
(21:15):
always a truck selling um vegetables and fruits in front
of your house. There's always a signor um selling And
our version of ding dong ditch just we'd be like,
oh yeah, and we would hide like the corn. We'reight
years old as rude as, but like that's what we do.
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The interesting thing right now that we're seeing is that
gen Z is kind of coming for millennials, which is
us kind of you I'm three. Yeah, it's very interesting
because they're like, oh my god, it was so cringe
when they did X, Y and Z. But it's like
(22:06):
that's what everyone was doing back then, you know, like
I bet you the generation after them. But we talked
about this in our other episodes. We're going to come
for them. We're talking about it's it's giving white, it's
giving Western culture. But let the ne gen zs are
saying these things though the content meets who used to
make butter like like all of them are responsible for
(22:27):
blah blah blah blah. I'm like, are we Like no,
It's like this thing of like, first of all, who
wasn't angry when they were like enterteens and twelve years old?
Like I was very mad as well. Um. I feel
like as you get older, you kind of calmed down
about things and you kind of understand like, oh, I
see why you did those things, Like I see why
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as uh cultures that are often depressed and forgotten why
you have to do certain things. And you have to
realize at the time when we were making this content,
it was YouTube and Facebook. We were not making content
for Instagram yet no Twitter, there's no TikTok, there was
no short form things. Yeah. I remember when we were like,
we need an Instagram and better like did not have
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an Instagram like we need And we were the ones
the team was the one who even I was the
one who was like we needed TikTok, were like we
need TikTok like nobody and now they're like profitting off
of TikTok And I'm like, where's my money, but things
like that where we were like, we're not doing it
for ourselves, like we're doing it because we want to
be on TikTok, we want to be on Instagram, we
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want to be on these platforms that are like doing
these things. But yeah, it's just interesting when I see
kind of like critiques of p L and and when
gen zars are talking, because I'm like, you haven't really
lived yet enough to understand where we were. But yes,
there were some things that I think everyone has done
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that you know, we learn about, like I'll take accountability
for all that stuff. I mean definitely accountability like across
the board, like that's whatever. Aybody should healthy human should
be taking kindability for stain things. But I also, to
be honest, I haven't seen or heard a lot of it.
I'm not on Twitter. And sometimes we would be in videos.
I wouldn't really know what the video was about. They
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would just say, hey, talk about x Y and Z
your experience, and then I would see this video is
like when you're x Y and Z, I'm like, oh,
I didn't know that. But because you wanted to help
out your coworkers and you wanted to also be in
videos and I wanted to, like you thought you were helping,
but like, where do you feel like Latino media is
going now? Honestly, I like where it's going. I like
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that these new people are like, you know, even though
sometimes they see the recycling some of the things that
we're doing, they're doing it in a way that's funny
and that is also touching on topics that we never
touched on. Um and I think it's um. They call
out people and they are very strong in that, and
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I don't think we I'm we would call out people
back in the day, but like they do it in
a way that's very very quick, smart, um efficient. I mean,
part of our goal, I think we better like was
to open up the doors for there to be everybody
at the table, everyone's voice to be heard, all these
amazing things. And in a way it happened right like
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not because of us, but because of like different platforms.
But like in a way we are seeing that and
I think it is amazing to hear about different people
talking about different things, different ideas, more people bringing their
own unique experiences of living within the intersectionality of our
identities and putting them on platforms, you know, and speaking
up for themselves, and there's more accessibility to to make
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content because you yes, you can make content on your
phone and uploaded to YouTube, but you like, you know,
trying to edit and all that stuff, Like it's so
accessible to get your point across, to make somebody laugh
or express yourself like And I think that's what I
love about like the Internet nowadays is that people are
so creative and us as a culture, we just have
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such a beautiful culture, and we are evolving as we
go and as these generations come up, like they are
changing the narrative constantly, and I have so much respect
for that, and um, I can't wait to see where
we're going to be at you know, a couple of years.
I'm excited to continue to see people talking about the
things that I was passionate about, like was like the colorism,
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the racism, the misogyny, the gender binaries and all these things.
Like I'm excited to see the younger generations kind of
bring it up and talk about it because that was
something that was really important to me as a creator
at better like um which is uh still very important
to me to learn about every single day. So I
like that young kids and we didn't go to school.
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We didn't go to college. Yeah, and we dropped out.
So it's nice as you call it. It's nicely college
college educated making content. You want to say that at
the end of the day, like we're so proud of everyone.
We don't hate, we're celebrators, we love people. We love
to see our community doing the damn thing. It's just hard.
And I know, I know the tiktoker's or instagrammers like
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who are gen z and coming up? I know they're
experiencing their own hardships with all of this stuff too.
So what I'm saying also is like you two will
understand like the complexities of creating content for because we're
not a monolith, like you know, it's it's complex, absolutely,
But yeah, I think it's changed. I think it's it's
changed a lot, but it also has not changed a lot.
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It just got the joke's just got shorter. They're just
packaged in a different way, you know. Welcome to the
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astrology portion of the podcast. Since we're talking about tereotypes,
which sign actually is their stereotype? Yeah? Which sign? Do
we feel like falls into the stereotype category? I don't
feel like I'm like a typical aries, like because there's
also differences between like the stereotypical ariaes is like loud
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and they're rare, you know, in in intense. I find
that the one trait that I think about aries and sangitarious.
Maybe Aquarius does y'all stay distracted? You're like, I'm going
to do I'm like that as well, But I think
it's because I have seventy two things lined up in
(28:39):
my head. But I'm like, okay, I did A, B
and C. Virgos are definitely they're stereotyped to a t um,
but it's just different because each virgo is like I
think they express a different area of their virgo nous. Yeah. Absolutely,
but I think you're very much like not a teak,
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but you have a high standard. Yeah. I once saw
those things as a kid that said virgos are most
likely to get paid for their opinion, and I literally
get me wow, true and the same thing. Yeah, and
I was that I don't like that. What about geminis.
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I feel like geminis, I do you think that the
two faced thing is real? I don't know about to face.
I think they have two different personalities. I'm like, who
is that? But The thing is I was talking to
a Gemini yesterday about this, and I was like, people
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don't allow you to express two parts of yourself. They
just want you to be the same thing because it's familiar.
So like if you don't want to go, if you
want to go to this party tonight, you want to
have a ranger cool, And then the next weekend, like
we're going to this party and they're actually, no, I
don't want to go. They're like, in a split second,
they can change their mind. And people don't like that
(30:04):
because they like consistency. But it's also like allow them
to be themselves, like if they don't like I know,
if I'm with like any one of my Gemini friends
and this because this is how I am too, Like
one day I know to expect, not to expect anything
because they're going to change their mind, and which is fine.
I'm like, do you think, like who I am when
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you meet me is who I am in private? Meet person?
I feel like I'll meet you and be like I'm insecure,
Like I'll tell you that in the line of super
market and then I'll tell you, but I'm confident at
the same time, I feel like I don't know yeah,
because I'm trying to compare our science to Geminis. I
feel like Geminis will give you one thing in private
(30:45):
and then a whole that's different. Can we experience that? Yeah?
I will say that, and sometimes I'll catch them on
it and be like, this is how you feel about
this person. You need to be that consistent with them.
I r L Yeah, exactly, I know. I know so
that I will say, yes, what about I was gonna say, tourists, Okay,
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tourist is My mom's a tourists. One of my best
use as a tourist. My sister is a tourist. The
man that I'm dating right now is a tourist. Um,
just a lot of tory. I know, tarais, this is tourist. Um.
I find that they are very loyal, super loving, mega
stubborn like that, And sometimes I'm like I can't. I'm
(31:32):
stubborn already. I'm like, go be stubborn in that corner
over there, because interesting cause people think like stubborn is cute.
I'm stubborn. It's cute. No, this is like they're bull
they're bulls. My mom's face like, Selena, how do you like?
Like like she gets swollen, like when she doesn't want
to admit some things. She's like, and I'm like, it's
okay to say, it's okay to say sorry. You just
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say sorry. It's fine. Capricorns, Capricorns, Okay, I'm gonna start.
I want to be nice because we've done forty nine episodes,
and I believe forty seven episodes I've dragged them. So
for this, I feel like what I love about Capricorns
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as they get shipped done, and that is that is
true to their stereotypes, the stereotype which I love to
see very much. Elvis Presley prabmatic as Elvis. We just
saw his movie Tomato Tomato. I thought it was good,
problematic prabmatics. And Dolly Parton is a Capricorn. Dolly Parton
(32:40):
as well. They get ship the ship done. Dolly Parton
was writing like, because Capricorns are just like on Spiritual Crime,
I respect that about that. I wish I had that.
People were like, there's the organized they get it done.
I'm like, no, it's the capricorn up in here. And
sometimes it's hard to take that and concept realize it
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because I'm the same need a capricorn next to them
that's that's true. What about lightning round? Okay? Leo's um,
I find that their stereotypes are they are mega anal
about finmeliness a lot of times they Yeah, I find
that Leo's and never known a Leo that's like that
at all, And I'm surrounded by Leo's Leo's are they
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live up to their pridefulness. But the pridefulness can be
in different areas of their life, so it could be
like within their work or themselves. There's most of the
time it's like self image. My brother is a double
Leo and he is very prideful, sometimes in the wrong way.
Thank you for using a coaster. Oh yeah, absolutely. I
do find that Leo's are have a little bit of
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an ego. Do you think you have an ego? These
are producers, by the way, I feel like am I
saying no online Ama de Leo too because of my
Pisces rising. I'm sorry for the both of you, August
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and Josie are are produced serious. But yeah, I find
that Leo's have that. I'm a double fire sign with
the with the water signed rising, so that's interesting too.
Who else do we miss? Sad? We kind of stretched
up a little bit how they're a little like such
terrrius definitely live up to their stereotype because there's so
much fun. I love them so much. My mom's and
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such terarious. I have a lot of best friends who
are such es. You can't get down, No, but neither
can I. Yeah, yeah, I said that about areas. I
literally are did you group us all in one? I
spent on talking about virgo out of respect for you,
and I got grouped into And where is bro? I've
done with this? We've done in this segment is and
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that who do we forget? Though? Librett cancer? Cancers, cancers love.
I just love how much cancers not know love if
it weren't for all the cancers A squishy and cancers
I mean too, but I'm just like, say, what you're
really thinking with all of that, like passive aggressive? I
(35:15):
love my cancer from me that I feel like cancers
are grumpy because they give so much love, And then
it doesn't get that I'm like, and I'm like, I
like crab, I do like crab. I love. That concludes
our zodiac section. So basically, um, yeah, Latino media, Latin
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A media has changed in so many different ways, and
it'll continue to change UM and I'm here for it.
I think one of the biggest things that I think
you can do as a creator is um create longevity
for yourself and to evolve. Like very much we could
have been those people that are like these people these days,
you're making all of these things and and not evolved,
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like you know, in the way they're making TikTok's Like
I had to step back and be like, Okay, my
videos aren't working on TikTok. Let me see what they're doing,
let me see what the platform is, and let me
see what these other people are like, how do we
exchangeable information between the generals and taking accountability for some
things that you were not educated on or maybe you
were wrong about, and learning and doing better, like there's
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nothing wrong with that. I have since day one, always
been excited about UH, specifically because I'm a queer individual.
I've always been excited about diversity, and I'm excited to
see that now more than ever. We're seeing that more
and more across platforms. We're seeing that more and more
on bigger channels like you know, networks. We're seeing people
try We have a long way to go, a long
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long way because we didn't even get into TV and film.
We didn't get We have not seen enough Black Latinos.
We have not seen Asian Latinos. We have not seen
like so indigenous people villain exactly, who are like living
in the intersectionally intersectionality of identities within the culture. Um
And I'm excited to see it grow and keep going
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and we'll be watching and we'll be playing along like
learning and growing. So um this of course we just
want to send everybody so much love. Keep doing you
um and you are valid whatever lane you in, whatever
lane you in, whatever lane you are in, you are
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valid to just create content. Go out there. You are you, You,
you are the future, future, future fure. Thank you so
much for listening to another episode of the Super Seek
and Messy Club podcast Curly. How can we find you
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