March 28, 2022 • 55 mins
Join us as we discuss the most recent Halo News. We also talk about the new GTA update. Also joining us for women's history Month is Deborah Anderson. Deb is a 3D Animator who has worked on such projects for Family Guy, The Cleveland show, Batman The Brave and Bold , and more! All of this and more on todays episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Trapped like you never welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the
Trapped Nerds podcast. What's up people? How y'all doing? We
gotta especial guest here today. Along with of course, we
got moment here spelling in for Women's History Month, we
also got Deborah Anderson three D animator. What's good? How's
it going? We have an interview with her. Go ahead,
(00:23):
I'm sorry, good, go ahead? What's good? Yeah? We have
an interview with her later in the show. My bad,
my words all over the place. But how's everybody doing? Good?
Don't called prosthetics always, you know, keeping my head above water.
Always mindtain it? You know? Good? How y'all doing? Ship?
As we're starting off to how you've been ships? I
guess next? So I got a store? Was your week?
(00:44):
I got? I got almost mistaken for a baby kid?
That for this week? Yeah? So all right, yeah, I
know about my wild last a little niecey got a
little story with this nigga. She almost got me sense
to jail. So I was like last week, I got
some crops because they they're comfortable. I can't even talk
to about crocks, no money, so my little you know,
I like the kid now my niece at times, and
(01:05):
we go on wild eventus and go get McDonald's. So
I went to the mack and she was like, I
want some crops. Okay, she does not say crocks like that,
so just just keep that in the back of your head.
So we went to the journeys and the mall and
Ship go in there, you know, looking for some crocks.
She'll you know later like she adorable. You know, she
getting me, She getting me. She getting to the j
(01:26):
throwing my way because you know, she little inadorable and
they see me being responsible, so you know, a so
she just butt side screaming I want cocks. Was usually
for cocks. Dang what cocks. So now everybody's looking at
me like what she say, chill, We're trying to get
(01:47):
some cocks. No, why do you make her keep repeating it?
First of all, no, that's not that's not me making
her repeat them. She saw all the shoes and she
like fuck them. She was I want cocks. Cock me up. Like,
and I'm like, oh, Ship, I'm going to jail. It's
white people looking at me and Ship. So then like,
let thank god for the lady that was like you
(02:09):
give me. She like no, Dad, And she was like,
so you said you want some crocs. Y okay, We're
gonna get crocks. Thank you, Thank you Jesus, because I
swear I saw one white lady walk out and I'm
pretty sure she was going to scared. So yeah, so
I bought me some oat crocs too, So we just
had to walk out with bags and crocs so it
(02:29):
could look like all right, y'all. She said crocks, she
said crocs. Oh god, oh god. Let's get to the car.
Just get to the Yeah, that was an interesting event
in my week, that's the thing. Yeah, we had to
do an awkward slow I had to get her ice
cream and ship on the way out. So we look,
this is my niece. It's just my niece. Time for
(02:52):
my weekly thirty second attack on tight rent. I ain't
gonna spoiling for nobody. This is my two takeaways so far.
Genocide is good and fake friends. That's all I'm saying.
We're gonna move on to the next person. Yeah, I understandable,
and the right way an attack on the tightened way
(03:14):
is validated most definitely at the wait warranty. I can't
wait about tomorrow's episode. Every every every episode like I
just can't. I mean, I'm still a seasons. It's just straight.
But wait there, that's more. Can't wait to see all excitement.
What you're all excited about. I can't wait for you
to get there, Tony. How's your week? Yeah? You read
the manga, y'all. That's been pretty nobody reading no manga,
(03:36):
man got leave get awful with that. Slightly better, No
the manga. I like reading the manga. Now it's been
a minute. I ain't gonna lie. I feel like, because
like I said, I started, I will read the mango first.
I just finished a little bit, like, I will read
the mango first for real, like in middle school, I
will always read the mang. I mean really, that's all
you kind of had, honestly was the manger. You know,
(03:56):
they just kind of started within the past ten years
doing the adaptations for a lot of these generational books
that it's beautifully just drawn type ship. It's like a
it's like Berserk. That's like the last Like manga's just
reminded me of k because just on straight Oh my god,
I Nika drew this. He released a chapter. Yeah right,
that's what made it so bad. I just kind of
waited and I shout, I shout out to my pirates.
(04:19):
But yeah, yeah, but weeks has been pretty good. Man.
My brother has been on spring break, so I just
taken care of him and going down, hanging up, how
about just going on? That's good? My mom about this week,
she said hers earlier. Then, No, I really just came.
I really just gave a general overview. I didn't really
tell you all about my week. How is my week being?
(04:41):
I guess my week was pretty born because I have
anything to talk about. However, he was your tax report
of what your business? Wait? What weekly? Money have been
skyrockety at the at the your local hood with your business?
(05:01):
Thank you, have a nice day. The sales report is
none of your motherfucking business. Okay, there, bro, I was
my week was good. I'm gonna taking a little classy class.
Trying to do my digital scupting thing. Uh. Work was busy,
but and trying to get more into Uh. I'm working
(05:23):
as a coordinator, but I'm gonna be an editorial assistant,
so trying to more. It was good. Trying to get
more responsibility work. Yeah, the mother you laying shoot the mother.
The mother got to pay you and the more I
network and impressed people, then they will give me a
job in the future. It's very good to be versus now,
to be the adaptable for show you wanted to be
very well around yeah, oh yeah, she was proactive like her. Well,
(05:47):
my week is good. Um yeah, I think I spoke
to you who said that my mother will get you
and your beauty anyways, not kidding, but now my week
was good. Uh. I have a panel doing Monday talking
about the movies movie with the blurred girl, Caryl Horn.
She had invited me to. That's pretty gonna be pretty dope.
(06:07):
And I'm opening for Sugar Sammy tonight, so that's cool.
And other than that, more's been normal. My arm shoulders
finally and my dog injuries are finally healing better. Well, okay,
good spover good. You're a warrior now, boy, I'm a
new man. I took the warriors. What is it called
warrior around something? Anyways, if you catch me in the
(06:30):
woods fighting the bear, health to bear, shout out to
miss h not help me, take me, help me now.
If I try to help you, to bed gonna be
like God, Damn, I ain't even read it for a
round two. I ain't even know that was your man.
That's my bad. Yeah, then my friend don't got damnit. Well,
(06:51):
show thread, we do have an incredible show thread today.
So dre, what's going on in the world of gaming? Alright,
quick head, last thing, I dropped out of college in thirteen.
Guess what else happened in g T A five came out.
We've gotten the great lord that is read their attemption,
redemption to a great masterpiece and rock stars portfolio. But
(07:13):
at the end of the day, it is two. I
have played g t A five on how many times
I gotta keep saying I played g t A five
on p S three or Xbox one, even Xbox and
PS five. Now, why in the fuck are we still
re updating g t A five? The ship makes no
goddamn sense, And these niggas got the balls to still
(07:35):
charge people for this ship, Like I don't get it anymore.
Like I know, y'all are literally milking this horse till
it dies. Y'all made the horse damn near immortal, But
at what cost of the people, my nigga, Like, it's
so bad to the point, the nigga that made all
the g t A s we love nearing, did our
heart the original trilogy for and five and to he's gone.
(08:00):
I forgot which House of brother it is, but the
one that wrote all of them is gone. So now
it's on straight money point. But yeah, it's at the
point that, like, bro, have y'all literally just sold out
to If y'all just sold all the fucking way out,
I forgot to take two on y'all. So it's not
it's not goddamn me just out of the limits. But
what the funds not sucking us over like this? This
(08:21):
is just a message from a person who loves y'all.
Y'all made man buy y'all was the neigs that literally
got the E. S R. B ships besides more to
combent on game and look at what y'all is That
just some money hungry fox and I don't like it.
It's not y'all stop please, it's all like, what was
your take on it? It's been three it's been three
(08:44):
console generations that we still have this game, and then they, yeah,
we're at nine years right now. They keep releasing it
and it's like nobody, nobody wants to pay for them.
I guess something, Actually, you know what, maybe some people
do because they keep doing it so someone's paying for it,
but ain't gonna meet me. Millenniums they make money off
the Star like and then let's not even talk about
(09:06):
the g T A trilogy definitive edition with straight glitch
the fuck up. And it was a mobile port. It
wasn't even it was not even a part of the part.
It was her mobile point. Caddy k goddamn mobile port.
I just don't appreciate this ship. No, this ship bothers me,
like this is getting bad. It's the industry ship of
you teking about y'all just doing it for money. There, Yeah,
(09:26):
long gone is the hey day of rock Star. At
least at least they ain't doing Blizzard ship. That's about
all I can care about. Still over, y'all, y'all, y'all
was like the last big nigg is still making good stories.
Look at Caddy cage face. She don't appreciate this ship.
She don't deserve this. She played the game when I'm
(09:49):
when I'm high. God damn it, go hunt. I don't
gonna sleep to stay. I'm such a great pet. We
gotta go to a quick break. But when we come back,
Dre has more gaming news after this, and we are back,
so Dre had a slight Halo mentioned that he wanted
(10:10):
to talk about I ain't you know, it just started,
but I've instead of been just hearing this like a
pattern going on with just a lot of ips, and
it kind of sucked up with Halo, and I ain't
appreciate it. Also, I saw y'all for this episode, but
she just getting weird lately and I don't like it.
But I've been reading on the head just that was
the exact song in my head as soon as I
(10:32):
while I was reading it. But and it's like, y'all know,
I'm a sony nigger, but I appreciate all of Like
Halo is one of the only ships on Eggbox, I
just be like, boy, it did that. I can't even
just take ship from there. That's the Lord I'm invested in.
God damn so and it's been just a lot of
ship lately with everybody getting ips of ship like comic books,
(10:52):
shows and all that, and they just go and fuck
reverse all of it. I'm not even gonna that's a
deeper episode to diving like racial like swaps and like
gender swaps a certain ship. But Lord of the Ring
is still the worst one. Right now. But the ship
I've been reading with Halo is just kind of just
weird because Tony, I'm just gonna just based on it,
but just kind of explain the timeline of Halo after this,
(11:15):
because it's just the way I read it just kind
of made me just be like, no, I see where
it's going now. So basically, like everybody knows, how if
you don't just look at the timeline of Halo is
just kind of set in stone. We know everything between
master Chief and the Fall of Reach and all this
right now. I still I'm still gotta pit it all
(11:35):
together with Infinite because I feel like I missed some ships,
so I got to run it back one more time.
So I'm just speaking like the known ships that because
we and they had a game and down the a decade,
so you should know this ship by now. But they
are trying to just like basically make Master Chief like
his adventures and ship more than what it was before
the follow Reach, and it's kind of like y'all are
basically just making up ship now. And it goes to
(11:56):
like when you don't got the rights to certain ships,
but it's like even if you don't got the rights,
they don't mean just sunk up the whole entire story
because certain ship is cannon and you just don't change
certain sentimental ships that you do. So I mean, as
I was telling you earlier, like they basically building like
massa cheese to be some op s needed before to
follow the reach, but that busically me and it cut
(12:17):
out a lot of people before Halo even started. So
this don't even make it. I read after you brought
it up. I read about it, and apparently it's going
to be on an alternate timeline called the Silver Timeline,
some some made up thing, and because they asked the
director like, oh, how does it fit in with the
Lord and it's like, oh well it doesn't what they're like,
oh no, we're just borrowing heavily from the established Lord.
(12:40):
I was like, OK, well I'm out on this already.
I'm out on this now, like it's I'm dead now, alright, alright,
you just made me my rancher, I don't even kill
They just killed me right there myself. That was breaking
news to me right there and live in k I've
already I've read some of the early reviews too. It's
not good because it doesn't know what it's like who
(13:01):
its audiences as It's like, Oh, we wanted to be
for the gamers who love Halo, but we also wanted
for viewing. And I feel like with with adaptations, it's
really hard to do that, especially when you just go
way off, way off the time, like the reference material, right.
I don't know. After reading all that and what you
brought up, I think I think I'm out on that show.
(13:23):
I was already kind of out because it's some of
the changes I saw in the trailer, but this is
like pulled me out. They have a lot of faith
in it. They have proved it for a second season already,
Paramount Ship going for it. This is all they got
right now, y'all was I this was gonna be, y'all.
Y'all could have Golden Goost the ship out this. Y'all
could have just ran all the Halo games in cinematic
order and kill everybody asked here, y'all go, I bet
(13:46):
it's gonna be gender equality ship, no offense to anybody.
They're gonna make somebody a girl randomly or black. They're
basically trying to make it. They're gonna turn into a statements,
the wild Ship, the Black person they switched. He was
poor of reading there first, and why was that even necessary?
Was already goddamn me like it was a mixing pot
so and work. First of all, y'all just gonna ignore
(14:08):
reach that reach. This should ain't even need MASSI chief.
Y'all just could have bed Halo reach it called her
to day if boom that story was sad as fun,
they could have made the three our move. But yeah,
I don't know this remake ships. Niggers are like getting ips,
but they ain't even getting like the rights to the
parts they should tell don't care. And they're making and
(14:31):
making dwarves black and female, and the female dwarves ain't
even got beers. Fucking Lord of the Rings. Uh, they're
trying to be mad. Ain't no black elves. Elves are
not even like in that type of There's no Caucasian
el there's no Asian elves. Elves are just sucking elves.
Why are people mad there's no black girls? It just
(14:51):
don't make sense to me. No more. Shout out to
Harry Potter though Harry Potter legacy dropping though we finally
got that ship. So shout out j K. Rowling because
she hey technically she just looking like she was the
only writing nigger right now. I'm just saying because it's
a bold statement and I'm standing on it. That's why
she got canceled. She was the one right wing everybody
(15:13):
else ship ain't get ship, ain't getting deal like that.
After that place, she was, like I said, she she
wrote a tweet saying Ron and Harry should have got together,
but like, didn't you write it? Okay, check that's real.
I take a little bit of it back, but I
still staying. I still stand with j K because it's like, oh, yeah,
(15:34):
I know what she's talking about. Was she didn't at
least she didn't sell out her ship. I can say
that at least because if you if you use her
ship like she gonna, she'd be thorough. But that's how
I go. People just doing really ignorant. We gotta have
an episode of just about Yeah I got I got
like a list of random ship that's just been blowing me,
like it's a good and bad time to do that
(15:55):
swap ship and people have been doing this ship abusively lately.
While speaking of good and bad stuff that's blowing people.
Netflix is about to start putting the crackdown on word
and you know, account sharing. But they're testing it in
Chiley Coaster, REEC and Peru right now. But basically it's
gonna be a bulleted like it's gonna be like a
notification to tell you, you know, you can't be sharing
(16:16):
your password and stuff with with other people. I don't
know specifically how you're gonna crack down on it, but
what I would get, like, if you pay for multiple screens,
ain't that basically like you're paying to let other people
use your your account like Hulu Hulu you have to
be in the same household like some something. I ain't
gonna say nothing, shut up yourself if you do, like
(16:38):
the Hulu Live and stuff. Maybe trying to make me
in the same house, so you gotta put the address
of a person who will not account. I read something
about that they're gonna I think they're gonna be IP
tracking to see like where you're at and if you're
not at home, they know someone else. Can they do that?
Is that legal leg But I don't know if they're
(16:59):
gonna do. But okay, just on the fact that Netflix,
like if you notice, they'll do two seasons of the
show and then quit it because it doesn't benefit them
to have long seed like long like a bunch of
seasons of the same show, because they're constantly trying to
get describers. So this is not even like y'all about
to lose a bunch of subscribers because y'all get rid
of people's favorite shows that keep getting new shows. So y'all,
(17:20):
you don't even have the longevity that one. It's just
gonna be all and that's gonna cut a lot of
your viewers in half. So it's like the example was
barring people pass where as y'all lost them viewers. Y'all
see our true numbers real quick. Fine, your motherfucking business
Netflix there, my creo, my mama, you came in like
(17:44):
a video like that in my realness. Yeah, I need
not fucking offending like you. Somebody on my mama Neflix
hot she paid for the bill and if she won't
be to be able to access to her Netflix account
when at my creal if my mama, my mama, you
(18:06):
just raised Yeah, yeah, just wast not it's nice. If
my mama want me to look at this weird ass
old show called Bridget with goddamn me. British people sucking
got the Colonial Roads and she give me her password.
That's my motherfucking have y'all seen Bridge? Why no, good
(18:26):
will I see? You know my show takes you know
I've seen it. Yeah that sounds like whistle down, whoa,
it's a lot going on. I was like the concept
of killing it was hilarious. Like they took it a lot, right.
I just had a called my mama back and like,
(18:48):
what the fun you guy be watching the dude got
sexually assaulted in that. I know. I know I'm an
adult now, but this is job. Also, I need my
mama's Netflix account because she's paying for the bill so
I can watch stranger things. We'll see the Folk drop
And they dropped the first volume on Makes twenty seven
and then dropped down into on Junior Business. Yeah, well,
(19:13):
don't y'all make enough money? What's Netflix next worth? Right now? Like?
How much? How much? Is Netflix? Much? Too god damn
much to be worried about what the funk I'm doing
with my me and my mama deal? Like she got
my HBO Max and I got her Netflix. It's even exchange.
Netflix a hundred and seventy six billion dollars A hundred
and seventy six billion dollars. You do not need to
(19:35):
be cracking down like this. Leave us alone and I'll
stopped doing the weak as live action remakes. Y'all have
some more money, and for twenty dollars a month, I
should be able to show the goddamn account with whoever
the funk I want to share your weird ship. I'm
paying y'all twenty dollars. But if you want to be
a sponsor of the Trap Nurse podcast, we totally agree
(19:55):
whatever measures you're prepared to take. My cat, my caddy cage.
Do like to watch Narco's I don't want. I don't
know why. It's weird. It scares me. I like to
watching They took it off and sing you saw sing
to Yet I enjoyed. It's amazing. I enjoyed myself. And
(20:20):
that's the start of Joe Hansson movie too. Hey, random
other adventure. Me and my niece got kicked out the
movie theater to watch the singing too because we kept
singing it too that white people get mad. I was ready.
I was gonna fight every adult and everybody under the
age of folks. She was throwing them things. If anybody
came with Flix. I'm the greatest uncle level greatest uncle
(20:44):
le god damn. So yeah, Netflix, please chill, chill out, bro,
we like your shows. Chill out Netflix and chill Netflix.
Please chick ya taking the way Netflix and chill for
a lot of people. Right, all right, mind your business,
some people. You're making your famous. That's all he's doing
(21:07):
is making a famous more famous with more people using
the account. Like, really, who's get hurt? A hundred and
seventy six billion? What do you want to be two
hundred billion? Come on, guys, That's how I do things,
take down billion dollar companies with my words. You know what,
I'm not out with blind patriotism. We got a trap
(21:28):
nery army. I'm head of the army. She this next
and just have the corpet off and ship. I hate offices.
I'm in the field. What else you got on this guy? Show? Three?
That was the last thing? More stuff? So how about
that airline food? But tough crowd, tough crowds. Some time
(21:53):
at the Apollo when the clown come here and out
the same man with the broom and stuff. Man, get
your ship. It's like shoal about the polo used to
be good. Hey, remember the white guy came out there
saying Shaggy he won, y'all remember that. No, have you
(22:16):
ever seen down to Earth? Chris Rock, Yeah, I can't
think of the Asian dude. What is his name? He was?
He was just doing an adaptation with Cowboy Bebile. He
heard the I can't thinking his name right now. He
was on They had like their own like little showtime
on Apollo on the movie, and he was the one
(22:37):
got up and sign uh there is no way, no, no,
no no. He's sang a song on the on the
on the movie in the theater and they gave him
price like that was like clapping field like, oh this shocking.
But he was like a butchering the saw a real band.
It was sucked up. But that was only clapping because
(22:57):
he was Asian. So they had Chris come out there
and he's trying to do his jumps and ship and
I was pulling the funk out of him. But when
you say that, that sentiment is why I ain't going
to Because they'd be invited anybody to the cookout. They
(23:18):
could tap, they could dance a couple of steps, and
they're like, you invite to the cookout, ain't going to
nobody to cook out a little bittles, do a little
something for It's like, no, I'm not your now, pet, lovey,
I cook out. Its prestigious and that note, we need
to take a break, but when we come back, we
will be interviewing that bro after this and we are back,
(23:40):
so we are joined by a very prestigious three D animator.
Uh debor ms Debora. How's it going? How are you
doing today? I'm good? How are you doing? Good? Glad
to have you on on the Trap Nurse podcast. I've
been looking through your work and saying the things you
do and everything like that. I guess I'm gonna ask
the first generic Christian how did you get started? In
like animation? At three animation? I was gonna say, well,
(24:01):
don't you, Larry tell us a bit about herself first.
That's why I was going to That's why I said that. Okay, Al,
that's his opening. The ask just tell us how it
all started? That's open, like tell you. He was like, so,
how did it all start? But yeah, I grew up
like drawing and watching Disney stuff, and so I used
(24:22):
to have a little VHS tapes and um Disney books,
and so I would draw from the cover of the
VHS tapes and from the covers of different like comic
books and stuff, and got trace. People used to think
I traced and stuff. So UM. It was always always
good at art and math. So it was a constant
battle between going into something math related going into something
(24:43):
art related. So I went through and to be UM
an architect UM, and then I found out they didn't
really draw for real, and then I wanted to be
like I used to. I had a phase maybe in
middle school, where I always drew shoes from the side,
so I'm like, maybe industrial disider, don't know what you're
talking about. And then UM, in high school I went
(25:03):
to wanting to be um electrical engineer. And so luckily
I was smart and my dad is a professor, so
he got me and my brother. I have a twin brother,
and so he got us into dual enrollment UM. And
so I took seven college courses when I was in
high school, and the seventh class was animation. So all
thists like watching Disney like everybody else, story is like,
oh yeah, I was watching a Little Mermaid and I
(25:23):
wanted to do that. I was like, nah, I'm gonna
be something else. Or like I never thought it that
I could do it or wanted to do it until
I took that class like my senior of high school,
and I'm like, okay, this is a perfect like three
D animation is a perfect meld of my my analytical
and creative side. So like math kind of you don't
really have no math, but innately it's kind of like
math art. And so then I kind of had to
(25:45):
decide where to go to college, UM, since I found
it so late. And then I went to and I
wanted to go to college and study animation and play basketball,
which is not yeah, like ours don't have sports. I
had had three four years varsity UM, but like I
(26:05):
only had like three schools to choose from. So it
was like r I t where I went to in Rochester,
New York, Savannah Colle of Art and Design in Savannah,
and then St. Clair College in Canada. And so I
kind of got lazy my senior year and I didn't
want to do a portfolio. So that's why I applied
to instead of SCAT and I got in, and then
I went to R I graduated UM with a degree
(26:28):
in animation, and then that was in two thousand and eight.
So that was like a really hard time in America.
So I was having a hard time find out a job.
And so I like one of my college classmates who
I didn't even really talked to like that in college.
I just saw her Facebook and she was doing like
bungee jumping in and rafting, and I was like, what
are you doing and she was like, oh, I'm teaching
English and Korea. And so that's when I started to
look into it, because I never thought about teaching English
(26:50):
or going to it, like I started talking think about
going to foreign countries and like uh college and stuff.
But I applied to do it and then like I
decided maybe May of two thousand nine to do it,
and then by August nine I was in there teaching English.
And then I did a year. I was about to
re up on another year and my friend was like,
don't you got a degree in animation? And I was like, oh, yeah,
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I do. And so I was like, okay, I'm about
to go back to America, but let me I've never
seen an animation studio. So this is how this is
my story about like how I accidentally got a job
in animation Korea. So like I took tours. I like
emailed a bunch of Korean companies and took tours and
like only two responded. One that was in the city
I was in Guangdru, which is in the south. And
then sold. And so when I went to the one
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is sold at the end of the well during the
tour in Korea. Yeah, because I had never seen animation studio,
so I was like, let me go see one right
quick before I go back back to America. And so
one and sold. They took me to into this animation
room and like it was like a bunch of cubicles
on the side, and I went down this long path
and then turn right and I was like a black man.
(27:56):
That was like the last thing I boo. Yeah. So
like a lot of foreigners to them are like um
overseas directors or supervisors. So a lot of people from
like Canada will move to Korea or even America. UM
and be um like a supervisor to go back and
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forth with Fox and Morner Brothers and stuff like that.
And so I met him and then at the end
of the tour, they were like, do you have a portfolio?
And I was like no, but I can. And so
for the next four months, like to the day, I
worked on like in between teaching classes after school and
on the weekend, I worked on my portfolio and four
months of the day I sent it to him and
they invited me back up and gave me a job.
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And I remember like sitting in the office like, Okay,
when you teach English, they give you an apartment. That
all that's handled. But now I gotta like enter more
into real life and get my own apartment. So I
was like, I don't know where I'm gonna live, but
I think God got me. So yeah, I'll take the
he said, but I don't like there. And when out
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of it, like you wouldn't present the opportunity right if
you won't go, I guess. So I'm like yeah, And
so the vice president she helped me find a little
apartment and I worked there for a year. I was
playing on doing it two years, but I got I'm
like more introverted. So I got tired of people staring
at me. People and you can't tell if your blackness.
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And I had a bigger, a bigger afrow at the time.
So can I ask one random question while you was
in Korea that they hit you with the question you
know the question can I touch your hair? Luckily I
did not have to deal with that. Like the only
time I let somebody touch my hair was like I
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was teaching, because I taught at all girls middle school
and all girls High school, and I think at the
middle school there was one class I saw like every
other week, and so I felt bad that I didn't
see them that much. In this little girl as to
touch my hair, and I was like, okay, but my
natural personality is like na child, give you Yeah, you
had you had to hit that, you know what, just
because you at your age, right, I heard like ahead,
(30:07):
I've heard about like this white woman. She said she
was in the little gym joke On, which is the
public bath house where you be to everybody, and the
Korean woman just went with her hands and touched her boobs.
I was like, oh, lor, I couldn't even imagine how
I would I would do with that. She would have
got chopping the guy the neck. But asked niked too,
(30:31):
that's hot. Speaking of books, speaking of boots, how do
you how do you three d animate boobs? That's why
I wanted that's what? What? What was actually a good question,
do you'll be seeing the YouTube ads where they had
them on the ground minutes and her booty gingerly like
(30:54):
why do you why she shooting a gun? Like why?
This category on Glover one the Don the Donald Glover
animated video where the boobs is just jumping like why
like like like yeah, like even if you back on Twitter,
that have like a little use like the hints high
anime and that's just like you know, in five minutes
(31:16):
after watching this video, some people talk to a thing,
some people talk to a therapist. Other people just started
doing animations where when y'all jump me just jumping like
why why would why? Why the dude? Why why would
I want to see that man's fish? I actually do
have a good question on for you. Okay, So I
noticed that you like, you know, how you're seeing getting
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into animation, and you know you were talking about being introverted,
how you were getting too many stairs because you know
what I'm saying, you're black. You know, you're you're in
Asia at this point, so now it's you're successful. You
know what I'm saying. They have done, you know, quite
a few things. You know pretty much have some notes
on your resume. How do you feel about the advancement
about you know what I'm saying, black and brown people
being animated and not only being made it the way
(32:01):
that we're being like the representation of our animation, like
even down yeah, you know what I'm saying, down to
the curve. Yeah, they're making more boluptuous you know characters.
Everybody's not thin, everybody's not big. There's a light brown
brown you know what's what's your take on that? We
came a long way from Dragon Ball, remember that one
due the lips, especially being a black woman. You know
(32:24):
what I'm saying. Yeah, I actually do have a video plan,
like a little panel planned on my YouTube channel of
like the racial bias and like body discrimination and art
because like with individual arts, a lot of that stuff
i'd be seeing. I'm like, there's just one dude, and
I mean I made it a panel, so I had
to call nobody out. But his anatomy. He had this
(32:45):
big booty three D model and it's like the side
is like that it's just the anatomy. But I think
it's because he's not black. But I think we have improved.
Um Uh. Like I actually am on a project right
now that I can't talk about because NBA, but it's
a black project, and um, luckily I'm hitting an opportunity
to kind of be like a black expert because like
(33:09):
their representation, yeah, because you're the one they go to.
Now is that our show runners black and our supervisor
director is black, but some of our team who does
the designs and stuff aren't. And so I have I
have this thought like, um, like they don't type when
they're looking at repersentats, like white people and other non
black people are afraid to type the word black and
google chirch because they think of racist and they up
(33:33):
if they shout yeah, they look at it like that
when they search. Just get search people. But it's like
that you have to look up black. I did. I
just did like a little Twitter thread on this a
couple of weeks ago, where like, um, they kept calling
a bonnet. They kept calling like a head scarf, and
I'm like, no, can y'all relabel it in our system?
It's a bonnet, that's what it's called. That's what it's called, right, Like,
(33:53):
it's not a sleeping cap. It's a bonnet, Like that's
culturally what it's called. And that they don't know what
it is. Yeah, And the prairie. Yeah, if they if you,
if they google sweeper Cat, they're gonna come up with
you on tweet the tweet bird grandma with the little bonnet.
So it's like, you gotta look up black body. Don't
(34:15):
be afraid to type the word black. I do agree
with you that you have to pretty much like give visuals. Um.
I'm working on my own projects. I'm working on a
comic book. Um. And when I was reaching out for artists,
I really couldn't find like any black animators or artists.
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So he was a white, white girl, white woman. They
reached out to me. She she's very good in her art,
you know what I'm saying, But because she's white, you know,
some of the a lot of the scenes I have
to keep reiterating, you know, I want this person to
look like this, Like She'll give me the preview and
they'll be like white or orange or they have like
the racially ambiguous hair. And I'm like, all of my
(34:57):
characters are black. So literally, every time I have to
give her a scene, I have to go and give visuals.
I want them to look like her. I want them
to be dark like him. These are the type of
clothes look at the nails, the hair texture like it's
it's been, it's been quite uh what's the word I'm
looking for, quite a little bit of a challenge. I'm
not gonna lie, but you know she does and when
I give her the visuals, but I can't be upset
(35:17):
with her because she's not black. She doesn't understand because
we have this we all are human things, but there
is such thing as a black culture and so people
aren't tapped into that and so like, um, I just
feel like you have to be very specific with them.
And like when I'm scrolling through Instagram, I can tell
almost immediately most times when a white person has done
a black person because it won't look right. But I
(35:38):
feel like there's this complex with people with white people
in America because there's some people in like Europe and
Brazil and stuff where they be white, but they do
black people. Right. So oh, my Russian artist, my Russia artist,
Oh my gosh, he can draw a black person really,
like I have a South America can draw black people. Yeah,
I had a character. All of us. They got black
(35:59):
people too, so you know they used to White Americans
got black people, but they don't see us. I don't
know they don't see us and pere just normal niggerdum No.
Just ILL knew that dude, now he's from the Ukraine,
shout out to him. I knew that he could draw
back acknowledgement things like when I say they don't see this,
(36:21):
it's like they don't. When you're drawing someone, you have
to actually see them, like for example, in the three
class in college, I remember it was my first three
D class. We had an assignment of doing a head
for our final project, and me and another black woman
we did ahead. But my ill was back in the day,
were like I don't know it was the zip drive
or the CD or the DVD something, but it wasn't playing,
(36:43):
and so I was like, dang it. Like because there
was like two white guys who did black people and
want the one white guy he did it was a
ball um black person man and the lips was like
a whitish pink and I was like okay. And then
the other white dude did a black guy and he
hit the hair you know when you you skin skin
(37:05):
your near in the scab com like the hair looked
like a scab, and then the lips was like red
and I was like I don't know black people look
like that. And luckily the black woman who's who seit
he worked, she did a really good like black child.
But I was like, dang it, like I was trying
to represent, but like I was like, what did y'all
(37:29):
be looking at that one one person's lips had was
whitish pink, and then the other person's lips was red.
So I don't know, they feel like you're trying, like
they were legit feel like this is you don't like this,
and then they don't want no critique. Because I was
in a conversation on YouTube just the other day for
three hours, bro, I know how black people look though
(37:50):
I heard about it. Um somebody was pitching a show
with black children and the person was like, oh, how
about you make them animals? Like is that like that?
What that's what they do? If like that wanted to
be out there either like switch all the races I'm
making like animals. They do that because they don't want
to acknowledge, you know what, say take the accountability, like, hey,
(38:12):
we need to do better about other other races of
people that's not white. They don't look like us. How
many cartoons have you seen with all animals, but they
all talk black. The studio. The studio. The studio did
not want them to be all black kids. They gotta
figure out. Something got there and it was a black
woman who made back the argument. That's why I felt
(38:35):
like Tyrone and Unique. It wasn't like stereotypical though it
was there was named Tyrone and Unique, but they wasn't
like Offron always still me just so just pop out
of like wait for a way forward. I'm Tyrone, Like
this is good points to incorporate though, just like David
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was talking about, you know, this is our culture, this
is the black culture, and I'll cult you know community.
You know a lot of ty Rows you don't know,
it's a variation of That's still the happiest Tyrone I know,
though I can't say still from the clash, I still
you actually know what the quin I know too, oh ship.
(39:22):
I just actually did want to stay in the same area.
No two day one to stay in the same area.
It's like Highlander that can only be one, like not
another team movie. When there was two black dudes at
the party. That is hilary because I remember when I
was working for the State of Louisiana as an animation specialist.
(39:42):
What about I was living in I was living in KENNERA,
but I was commuting to back. She's stay in New
Orleans earlier though, Yeah, yeah, I'm a sleeping for I'm
in the opposite. So we were in our old office
and like I remember, um, miss Judy, she came to
(40:03):
talk to me, right, and then I was like, damn,
I forgot to tell Miss Judy something. So I was
like going to follow Miss Judy, and she had went
this way. I went around the other way. But it
so happened like all the black people that worked there
that like that were there that day all converged, like
like Cedric from Printing, like she could like we all
converged on the same spot. And then we all got scared,
like there's too many black people like this. First they
(40:25):
don't think we're having a meeting. We're gonna take over now.
We gotta stop, we gotta stop. They all starting to
look at us right now, and they realized that it's
a lot of black people here. I swear at the
same company when we moved to a new office, every
time it was three or more black people, and I
was involved, like one of my one of my white coakers,
and it was not always the same person. They had
(40:45):
to make a comment because of a black host. It's
innately ingrained in them that more than three people black
people cannot commune commune together. Somebody having a private meeting. Yeah, yeah,
black people. Bro that I ain't gonna lie. Sometimes I'd
be like, all right, that was doing. But sometimes I'll
be like, like, for example, bro, I can't make the
(41:08):
ship up real quick, real story time, I passed out
in Popeyes. I hadn't eaten all day. I had been
moving around a lot, and I passed out at the
County of Popeyes next to my homeboy before I can
make my order. So anyway, it's fast forward. I'm at
the hospital. They're thinking. They're thinking that I'm praying. They
really think that I'm praying, and I'm trying to hide
the preggert listen. No, So the doctor come in pretty
(41:29):
much it was like, you know, we got your test results.
Everything's fine. So he got over the store. He was like, so,
you know you passed out at Popeyes. I say yeah,
I said I was moving around a lot. You know
what I'm saying. I didn't get a chance to eat.
And he was like Oh, all that fried chicken was
too much for you? Huh at your pass? No? No,
I was like you skilled man. He was like, I
(41:53):
would have went to human resources. It ain't any motherfucker
you take a joke, but that one chicken too much
for your humh snack? That one on me. No. That's
why I like the white people I worked with my
old job, because they didn't bother us like that, Like
they didn't have them race issues there. It was surprised me,
(42:14):
like no micro aggression or nothing. So I was like,
I like these people. They took they had to have
the racial class off the office. Remember what Coca Cola
did that and said be less white. Remember when McDonald's
had their face. What they had to do is saying
(42:34):
about the chicken nuggets in the why you gotta be
how about how about the US Congress the Neil down
and cloth that was just it Kelly and Conway or
what's the old lady name? Oh that's what one them
(42:56):
through a what kind of forever? I wanted to jump?
Kicker is on the same yeah, yeah, And the dude
in the back you can see he obviously on his
cell phone or they kneeling down. I was like, wow,
man names in that picture. I couldn't handle that. I
had a stroke off that one. She just did something else,
(43:18):
But she just did something else, creaming for this a
weekend she read, she read a palm, a bon bono
palm to the people of Ukraine. What they were talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, Bunn. Did y'all see the white dude were
rapping in the plane on Texas? Okay? Yeah, niggers, y'all
(43:38):
gotta answer for that when y'all on court with y'all,
man's oh them them meetings are open, so they do
that all the time there. Yeah, that dude apparently goes
around that ship. Was funny. I was like, is this
a freestyle or is this written down? Because it's sucking
You're either way, But I can tell, like, man, who
mans is this? And who had to speaking? We had
(44:01):
to speaking. I'm gonna I'm gonna bring it back to
the three d we did? So what like when you
because like I said, I asked earlier about the family
guy in the Cleveland show, what's specifically were you able
to do in there? Like? What was your role? Okay?
So um, I was what's called my specialty is what's
called three D modeling. So, um, when you open up
(44:23):
a three D program, there's nothing in it, so you
have to create everything. When you a toy, story finding, dory,
incredible has to be created. Yeah, So I'm I'm what's
called a three D modeler, so I build things. You
can be a character modeler, you could be like an
environment modeler, prop modeler, so I was mostly an environment
I did all the vehicles. All the vehicles and Family
(44:45):
Guy in Shore are done in three D, some of
the backgrounds and some props. So usually like um, when
when there's like a complicated shot, like I did an episode. Um,
I did the Amry Els episode of Family where they
go to Canada and then shot where they have the
camera go around Stuet's head and you know, to keep
(45:05):
perspective withdrawing with his football head is really hard. So
we had to just create create him at three D
and then make camera moving as much easier to do that.
So UM, I was like a vehicle, prop and environment modeler.
And so like they use a process called tune shading.
That's why to the people who aren't familiar with like
animation or three D or or like the composition of
(45:26):
compositing of it. You won't be able to tell about
his three D, but I can tell because it's like,
this is my thing. I was just so Simpsons start
doing that like a lot of their studios, Like you
see like a lot of cartoons that's been out for
a while. Then it'll be like that one new season,
it looks slightly more h D right family, like the
little problem that they just came out with the Penny,
(45:47):
they all look a little slightly more advanced, you know,
as far as the animation. I just watched the last episode,
the most latest episode last night, and when the when
the ferris wheel kind of start rolling, I was like, oh,
that's three D L Yeah. So um, it's just like
overseas studios. It makes it makes the process easier and
you can reuse stuff um quickly. So now that I'm
(46:09):
at a studio in l A, I kind of get
to see because I always told people like, Okay, in
l A, they do the like creative pre production stuff
and then they do the grunt work in like Asia
or whatever or Mexico or wherever they decide to um
have the animation done. But now I get to see
the pre stuff at the studio I'm at now because
we're gonna send it to an overseas studio, So we're
doing the designs, scripts, um and all that type of
(46:30):
stuff so to hand off to the studio so they
can animate it so they polished, really need So are
you like so you said earlier that you know you
can't unless you're like an an animation. You know what
I'm saying, and understand the composite, Oh animation, you won't
be able to tell whether it was done in three
D because, like you just said, you know a Family Guy.
When you watch Family Guy, they it looks I guess
(46:53):
like a two D animation like it was. Depends on
your level of understanding because the the regular person won't
probably won't be able to tell. But if you're more
into it, you can tell. Like I had an ex
boyfriend who didn't like he didn't even know the difference
between two D and three D, and I was like, so, like,
it's very obvious, but you know, some people just don't know.
(47:14):
So just because they don't know what the DS. I
bet you if you ask them what the D stands
for two D and three D, they couldn't tell you.
What I mean, dimensional yeah, yes, okay, right, one question, okay,
because you do you say you do three dal designs
for like landscapes that shows that shows ship. I guess yeah,
I called I'm what's called a hard service model alert,
(47:35):
so everything with a hard surface. So okay, I'm trying
to get more into characters, okay, because you know me
and Tonio big a game and so you know we
that we thrive off throwing ourselves. And Dan just asked
landscapes and that ring right now, Elden Ring right now.
It's beautiful as hell, but fu elden Ring right now.
So I want to I want to ask what would
(47:56):
you probably say, like as like a landscape, well is
the hardest one up and you're probably most tedious one
that you just had to just go ahead and just
hit the hacker man click click click stress. This one
wasn't necessarily tedious, but I remember, um I was in
Korea and they gave me a background because so I did.
(48:16):
I did a Family Guy, Cleveland show, Batman, The Brave
and the Bowl and the Scooby Doo straight to DVD movies.
So there was an episode a movie for Scooby Doo
and they had this like cliff just if you imagine
like you know, the Grand Canyon or something, Scooby Doom,
which one was right, which I know, I know I
did the Fantastaurus one, but I kind of like lost track,
(48:37):
so I have to find like I have a hard
drive with all that stuff ONNNY, but it's about to
paying somebody a lot of I'm about to pay somebody
a lot of money to get the stuff off. But um,
like there was a cliff that they wanted me to do,
and I was trying to do it, and they wanted
me to a term called texturing, where you put the
color on it make it look pretty how I was
supposed to and so um, I was struggling, like my
(49:00):
director who just kept saying it wasn't looking like it
was supposed to look. And I'm like, what you want
me to do? Because I'm not for real a texture
artist either, so I'm like, I'm doing what I can
and he just kept being upset, like because I was
there for a certain amount of time. He's like, you
should just know what's in my head, and like and
this has been broken English, because like there was English thing.
(49:21):
There was like nobody in my department who really talk
spoke like fluent English, so it was like me speaking
bron broken Korean and them speaking broken English. So I
remember like, if they frustrated me, So the way the
building was set up, like all the offices will be
on the outside and the inside, so there was like
a walkway, like a square walkway, so if they frustrated me,
(49:41):
I would go to another floor and just walk around
to cool off. This day, I walked around. I went
outside and walked around the Korean block, which is similar
to a New York City block, because I was like,
I need a lot of time to calm down because
y'all are pissing me off. I don't know what you
wanted something. And so I remember in New Orleans, I
went as best to watch there's a very animation famous
(50:03):
guy Floyd Floyd Norman. He was the first black person
to work for He was doing his documentary at Essence
Fest and I got to talk to him because it
ain't nobody know who he was, so I was like, oh,
that's Floyd Norman. And at the end of his movie
he was doing like drawings for people and I was like, okay.
He mentioned I don't know if it was in the
in the documentary or in the talk after he mentioned
how he hated Scooby Doo. So I was like, can
(50:24):
you draw Scooby Doo to commemorate our hate for Scooby
for working on Scooby Doo? And so I got that's
what wearing storage like a drawing from Floyd Norman. Yeah,
so one last thing, I see you got the blurred
over shirt on you. They affill yourself. Yeah, they're partly illuminating. Yeah. Yeah,
(50:46):
we got a secret organization between the black you know
podcast shoutout to say I didn't look at you. I
(51:07):
did on my YouTube channel, I did a panel of
like a YouTube live of like D nine Greeks and animation.
I think all the D nine Greeks was on my panel.
Like there's only like two It's hard to find some
D nine people in animation, but it was like probably
two people missing me Snacks and Morgan. We went to Gramlin. Um.
(51:27):
I have a cousin, a couple of cousins that with
the Gramlin and a lot of people for Romulus because
I went to high school and Rymulists were bad. Well,
we gotta wrap up this amazing interview. We appreciate you
for joining us at this time, I just want to
open the floor for you and like you know, tag
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took me so long to find animation and I want
(52:09):
I don't want that to happen to other kids, so
I want to I want to introduce animation to other
people earlier. So I want people. I want to interview
people that look like us, and we are a few,
but there's more than we realize, so that's very important.
So that's YouTube dot com slashback. I just got my subscription.
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(52:31):
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you for having me. Well, guys, I think that banter
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I got my first sense of that j you can't
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us and shout out for the season three. So shout
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towards something like freaking hilarious. All of them killed it,
freaking hlarious, d C. You'll fly closed it. He killed it.
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Trapped like you never welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the
Trapped Nerds podcast. What's up people? How y'all doing? We
gotta especial guest here today. Along with of course, we
got moment here spelling in for Women's History Month, we
also got Deborah Anderson three D animator. What's good? How's
it going? We have an interview with her. Go ahead,
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I'm sorry, good, go ahead? What's good? Yeah? We have
an interview with her later in the show. My bad,
my words all over the place. But how's everybody doing? Good?
Don't called prosthetics always, you know, keeping my head above water.
Always mindtain it? You know? Good? How y'all doing? Ship?
As we're starting off to how you've been ships? I
guess next? So I got a store? Was your week?
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I got? I got almost mistaken for a baby kid?
That for this week? Yeah? So all right, yeah, I
know about my wild last a little niecey got a
little story with this nigga. She almost got me sense
to jail. So I was like last week, I got
some crops because they they're comfortable. I can't even talk
to about crocks, no money, so my little you know,
I like the kid now my niece at times, and
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we go on wild eventus and go get McDonald's. So
I went to the mack and she was like, I
want some crops. Okay, she does not say crocks like that,
so just just keep that in the back of your head.
So we went to the journeys and the mall and
Ship go in there, you know, looking for some crocks.
She'll you know later like she adorable. You know, she
getting me, She getting me. She getting to the j
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throwing my way because you know, she little inadorable and
they see me being responsible, so you know, a so
she just butt side screaming I want cocks. Was usually
for cocks. Dang what cocks. So now everybody's looking at
me like what she say, chill, We're trying to get
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some cocks. No, why do you make her keep repeating it?
First of all, no, that's not that's not me making
her repeat them. She saw all the shoes and she
like fuck them. She was I want cocks. Cock me up. Like,
and I'm like, oh, Ship, I'm going to jail. It's
white people looking at me and Ship. So then like,
let thank god for the lady that was like you
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give me. She like no, Dad, And she was like,
so you said you want some crocs. Y okay, We're
gonna get crocks. Thank you, Thank you Jesus, because I
swear I saw one white lady walk out and I'm
pretty sure she was going to scared. So yeah, so
I bought me some oat crocs too, So we just
had to walk out with bags and crocs so it
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could look like all right, y'all. She said crocks, she
said crocs. Oh god, oh god. Let's get to the car.
Just get to the Yeah, that was an interesting event
in my week, that's the thing. Yeah, we had to
do an awkward slow I had to get her ice
cream and ship on the way out. So we look,
this is my niece. It's just my niece. Time for
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my weekly thirty second attack on tight rent. I ain't
gonna spoiling for nobody. This is my two takeaways so far.
Genocide is good and fake friends. That's all I'm saying.
We're gonna move on to the next person. Yeah, I understandable,
and the right way an attack on the tightened way
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is validated most definitely at the wait warranty. I can't
wait about tomorrow's episode. Every every every episode like I
just can't. I mean, I'm still a seasons. It's just straight.
But wait there, that's more. Can't wait to see all excitement.
What you're all excited about. I can't wait for you
to get there, Tony. How's your week? Yeah? You read
the manga, y'all. That's been pretty nobody reading no manga,
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man got leave get awful with that. Slightly better, No
the manga. I like reading the manga. Now it's been
a minute. I ain't gonna lie. I feel like, because
like I said, I started, I will read the mango first.
I just finished a little bit, like, I will read
the mango first for real, like in middle school, I
will always read the mang. I mean really, that's all
you kind of had, honestly was the manger. You know,
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they just kind of started within the past ten years
doing the adaptations for a lot of these generational books
that it's beautifully just drawn type ship. It's like a
it's like Berserk. That's like the last Like manga's just
reminded me of k because just on straight Oh my god,
I Nika drew this. He released a chapter. Yeah right,
that's what made it so bad. I just kind of
waited and I shout, I shout out to my pirates.
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But yeah, yeah, but weeks has been pretty good. Man.
My brother has been on spring break, so I just
taken care of him and going down, hanging up, how
about just going on? That's good? My mom about this week,
she said hers earlier. Then, No, I really just came.
I really just gave a general overview. I didn't really
tell you all about my week. How is my week being?
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I guess my week was pretty born because I have
anything to talk about. However, he was your tax report
of what your business? Wait? What weekly? Money have been
skyrockety at the at the your local hood with your business?
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Thank you, have a nice day. The sales report is
none of your motherfucking business. Okay, there, bro, I was
my week was good. I'm gonna taking a little classy class.
Trying to do my digital scupting thing. Uh. Work was busy,
but and trying to get more into Uh. I'm working
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as a coordinator, but I'm gonna be an editorial assistant,
so trying to more. It was good. Trying to get
more responsibility work. Yeah, the mother you laying shoot the mother.
The mother got to pay you and the more I
network and impressed people, then they will give me a
job in the future. It's very good to be versus now,
to be the adaptable for show you wanted to be
very well around yeah, oh yeah, she was proactive like her. Well,
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my week is good. Um yeah, I think I spoke
to you who said that my mother will get you
and your beauty anyways, not kidding, but now my week
was good. Uh. I have a panel doing Monday talking
about the movies movie with the blurred girl, Caryl Horn.
She had invited me to. That's pretty gonna be pretty dope.
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And I'm opening for Sugar Sammy tonight, so that's cool.
And other than that, more's been normal. My arm shoulders
finally and my dog injuries are finally healing better. Well, okay,
good spover good. You're a warrior now, boy, I'm a
new man. I took the warriors. What is it called
warrior around something? Anyways, if you catch me in the
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woods fighting the bear, health to bear, shout out to
miss h not help me, take me, help me now.
If I try to help you, to bed gonna be
like God, Damn, I ain't even read it for a
round two. I ain't even know that was your man.
That's my bad. Yeah, then my friend don't got damnit. Well,
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show thread, we do have an incredible show thread today.
So dre, what's going on in the world of gaming? Alright,
quick head, last thing, I dropped out of college in thirteen.
Guess what else happened in g T A five came out.
We've gotten the great lord that is read their attemption,
redemption to a great masterpiece and rock stars portfolio. But
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at the end of the day, it is two. I
have played g t A five on how many times
I gotta keep saying I played g t A five
on p S three or Xbox one, even Xbox and
PS five. Now, why in the fuck are we still
re updating g t A five? The ship makes no
goddamn sense, And these niggas got the balls to still
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charge people for this ship, Like I don't get it anymore.
Like I know, y'all are literally milking this horse till
it dies. Y'all made the horse damn near immortal, But
at what cost of the people, my nigga, Like, it's
so bad to the point, the nigga that made all
the g t A s we love nearing, did our
heart the original trilogy for and five and to he's gone.
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I forgot which House of brother it is, but the
one that wrote all of them is gone. So now
it's on straight money point. But yeah, it's at the
point that, like, bro, have y'all literally just sold out
to If y'all just sold all the fucking way out,
I forgot to take two on y'all. So it's not
it's not goddamn me just out of the limits. But
what the funds not sucking us over like this? This
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is just a message from a person who loves y'all.
Y'all made man buy y'all was the neigs that literally
got the E. S R. B ships besides more to
combent on game and look at what y'all is That
just some money hungry fox and I don't like it.
It's not y'all stop please, it's all like, what was
your take on it? It's been three it's been three
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console generations that we still have this game, and then they, yeah,
we're at nine years right now. They keep releasing it
and it's like nobody, nobody wants to pay for them.
I guess something, Actually, you know what, maybe some people
do because they keep doing it so someone's paying for it,
but ain't gonna meet me. Millenniums they make money off
the Star like and then let's not even talk about
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the g T A trilogy definitive edition with straight glitch
the fuck up. And it was a mobile port. It
wasn't even it was not even a part of the part.
It was her mobile point. Caddy k goddamn mobile port.
I just don't appreciate this ship. No, this ship bothers me,
like this is getting bad. It's the industry ship of
you teking about y'all just doing it for money. There, Yeah,
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long gone is the hey day of rock Star. At
least at least they ain't doing Blizzard ship. That's about
all I can care about. Still over, y'all, y'all, y'all
was like the last big nigg is still making good stories.
Look at Caddy cage face. She don't appreciate this ship.
She don't deserve this. She played the game when I'm
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when I'm high. God damn it, go hunt. I don't
gonna sleep to stay. I'm such a great pet. We
gotta go to a quick break. But when we come back,
Dre has more gaming news after this, and we are back,
so Dre had a slight Halo mentioned that he wanted
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to talk about I ain't you know, it just started,
but I've instead of been just hearing this like a
pattern going on with just a lot of ips, and
it kind of sucked up with Halo, and I ain't
appreciate it. Also, I saw y'all for this episode, but
she just getting weird lately and I don't like it.
But I've been reading on the head just that was
the exact song in my head as soon as I
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while I was reading it. But and it's like, y'all know,
I'm a sony nigger, but I appreciate all of Like
Halo is one of the only ships on Eggbox, I
just be like, boy, it did that. I can't even
just take ship from there. That's the Lord I'm invested in.
God damn so and it's been just a lot of
ship lately with everybody getting ips of ship like comic books,
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shows and all that, and they just go and fuck
reverse all of it. I'm not even gonna that's a
deeper episode to diving like racial like swaps and like
gender swaps a certain ship. But Lord of the Ring
is still the worst one. Right now. But the ship
I've been reading with Halo is just kind of just
weird because Tony, I'm just gonna just based on it,
but just kind of explain the timeline of Halo after this,
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because it's just the way I read it just kind
of made me just be like, no, I see where
it's going now. So basically, like everybody knows, how if
you don't just look at the timeline of Halo is
just kind of set in stone. We know everything between
master Chief and the Fall of Reach and all this
right now. I still I'm still gotta pit it all
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together with Infinite because I feel like I missed some ships,
so I got to run it back one more time.
So I'm just speaking like the known ships that because
we and they had a game and down the a decade,
so you should know this ship by now. But they
are trying to just like basically make Master Chief like
his adventures and ship more than what it was before
the follow Reach, and it's kind of like y'all are
basically just making up ship now. And it goes to
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like when you don't got the rights to certain ships,
but it's like even if you don't got the rights,
they don't mean just sunk up the whole entire story
because certain ship is cannon and you just don't change
certain sentimental ships that you do. So I mean, as
I was telling you earlier, like they basically building like
massa cheese to be some op s needed before to
follow the reach, but that busically me and it cut
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out a lot of people before Halo even started. So
this don't even make it. I read after you brought
it up. I read about it, and apparently it's going
to be on an alternate timeline called the Silver Timeline,
some some made up thing, and because they asked the
director like, oh, how does it fit in with the
Lord and it's like, oh well it doesn't what they're like,
oh no, we're just borrowing heavily from the established Lord.
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I was like, OK, well I'm out on this already.
I'm out on this now, like it's I'm dead now, alright, alright,
you just made me my rancher, I don't even kill
They just killed me right there myself. That was breaking
news to me right there and live in k I've
already I've read some of the early reviews too. It's
not good because it doesn't know what it's like who
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its audiences as It's like, Oh, we wanted to be
for the gamers who love Halo, but we also wanted
for viewing. And I feel like with with adaptations, it's
really hard to do that, especially when you just go
way off, way off the time, like the reference material, right.
I don't know. After reading all that and what you
brought up, I think I think I'm out on that show.
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I was already kind of out because it's some of
the changes I saw in the trailer, but this is
like pulled me out. They have a lot of faith
in it. They have proved it for a second season already,
Paramount Ship going for it. This is all they got
right now, y'all was I this was gonna be, y'all.
Y'all could have Golden Goost the ship out this. Y'all
could have just ran all the Halo games in cinematic
order and kill everybody asked here, y'all go, I bet
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it's gonna be gender equality ship, no offense to anybody.
They're gonna make somebody a girl randomly or black. They're
basically trying to make it. They're gonna turn into a statements,
the wild Ship, the Black person they switched. He was
poor of reading there first, and why was that even necessary?
Was already goddamn me like it was a mixing pot
so and work. First of all, y'all just gonna ignore
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reach that reach. This should ain't even need MASSI chief.
Y'all just could have bed Halo reach it called her
to day if boom that story was sad as fun,
they could have made the three our move. But yeah,
I don't know this remake ships. Niggers are like getting ips,
but they ain't even getting like the rights to the
parts they should tell don't care. And they're making and
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making dwarves black and female, and the female dwarves ain't
even got beers. Fucking Lord of the Rings. Uh, they're
trying to be mad. Ain't no black elves. Elves are
not even like in that type of There's no Caucasian
el there's no Asian elves. Elves are just sucking elves.
Why are people mad there's no black girls? It just
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don't make sense to me. No more. Shout out to
Harry Potter though Harry Potter legacy dropping though we finally
got that ship. So shout out j K. Rowling because
she hey technically she just looking like she was the
only writing nigger right now. I'm just saying because it's
a bold statement and I'm standing on it. That's why
she got canceled. She was the one right wing everybody
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else ship ain't get ship, ain't getting deal like that.
After that place, she was, like I said, she she
wrote a tweet saying Ron and Harry should have got together,
but like, didn't you write it? Okay, check that's real.
I take a little bit of it back, but I
still staying. I still stand with j K because it's like, oh, yeah,
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I know what she's talking about. Was she didn't at
least she didn't sell out her ship. I can say
that at least because if you if you use her
ship like she gonna, she'd be thorough. But that's how
I go. People just doing really ignorant. We gotta have
an episode of just about Yeah I got I got
like a list of random ship that's just been blowing me,
like it's a good and bad time to do that
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swap ship and people have been doing this ship abusively lately.
While speaking of good and bad stuff that's blowing people.
Netflix is about to start putting the crackdown on word
and you know, account sharing. But they're testing it in
Chiley Coaster, REEC and Peru right now. But basically it's
gonna be a bulleted like it's gonna be like a
notification to tell you, you know, you can't be sharing
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your password and stuff with with other people. I don't
know specifically how you're gonna crack down on it, but
what I would get, like, if you pay for multiple screens,
ain't that basically like you're paying to let other people
use your your account like Hulu Hulu you have to
be in the same household like some something. I ain't
gonna say nothing, shut up yourself if you do, like
(16:38):
the Hulu Live and stuff. Maybe trying to make me
in the same house, so you gotta put the address
of a person who will not account. I read something
about that they're gonna I think they're gonna be IP
tracking to see like where you're at and if you're
not at home, they know someone else. Can they do that?
Is that legal leg But I don't know if they're
(16:59):
gonna do. But okay, just on the fact that Netflix,
like if you notice, they'll do two seasons of the
show and then quit it because it doesn't benefit them
to have long seed like long like a bunch of
seasons of the same show, because they're constantly trying to
get describers. So this is not even like y'all about
to lose a bunch of subscribers because y'all get rid
of people's favorite shows that keep getting new shows. So y'all,
(17:20):
you don't even have the longevity that one. It's just
gonna be all and that's gonna cut a lot of
your viewers in half. So it's like the example was
barring people pass where as y'all lost them viewers. Y'all
see our true numbers real quick. Fine, your motherfucking business
Netflix there, my creo, my mama, you came in like
(17:44):
a video like that in my realness. Yeah, I need
not fucking offending like you. Somebody on my mama Neflix
hot she paid for the bill and if she won't
be to be able to access to her Netflix account
when at my creal if my mama, my mama, you
(18:06):
just raised Yeah, yeah, just wast not it's nice. If
my mama want me to look at this weird ass
old show called Bridget with goddamn me. British people sucking
got the Colonial Roads and she give me her password.
That's my motherfucking have y'all seen Bridge? Why no, good
(18:26):
will I see? You know my show takes you know
I've seen it. Yeah that sounds like whistle down, whoa,
it's a lot going on. I was like the concept
of killing it was hilarious. Like they took it a lot, right.
I just had a called my mama back and like,
(18:48):
what the fun you guy be watching the dude got
sexually assaulted in that. I know. I know I'm an
adult now, but this is job. Also, I need my
mama's Netflix account because she's paying for the bill so
I can watch stranger things. We'll see the Folk drop
And they dropped the first volume on Makes twenty seven
and then dropped down into on Junior Business. Yeah, well,
(19:13):
don't y'all make enough money? What's Netflix next worth? Right now? Like?
How much? How much? Is Netflix? Much? Too god damn
much to be worried about what the funk I'm doing
with my me and my mama deal? Like she got
my HBO Max and I got her Netflix. It's even exchange.
Netflix a hundred and seventy six billion dollars A hundred
and seventy six billion dollars. You do not need to
(19:35):
be cracking down like this. Leave us alone and I'll
stopped doing the weak as live action remakes. Y'all have
some more money, and for twenty dollars a month, I
should be able to show the goddamn account with whoever
the funk I want to share your weird ship. I'm
paying y'all twenty dollars. But if you want to be
a sponsor of the Trap Nurse podcast, we totally agree
(19:55):
whatever measures you're prepared to take. My cat, my caddy cage.
Do like to watch Narco's I don't want. I don't
know why. It's weird. It scares me. I like to
watching They took it off and sing you saw sing
to Yet I enjoyed. It's amazing. I enjoyed myself. And
(20:20):
that's the start of Joe Hansson movie too. Hey, random
other adventure. Me and my niece got kicked out the
movie theater to watch the singing too because we kept
singing it too that white people get mad. I was ready.
I was gonna fight every adult and everybody under the
age of folks. She was throwing them things. If anybody
came with Flix. I'm the greatest uncle level greatest uncle
(20:44):
le god damn. So yeah, Netflix, please chill, chill out, bro,
we like your shows. Chill out Netflix and chill Netflix.
Please chick ya taking the way Netflix and chill for
a lot of people. Right, all right, mind your business,
some people. You're making your famous. That's all he's doing
(21:07):
is making a famous more famous with more people using
the account. Like, really, who's get hurt? A hundred and
seventy six billion? What do you want to be two
hundred billion? Come on, guys, That's how I do things,
take down billion dollar companies with my words. You know what,
I'm not out with blind patriotism. We got a trap
(21:28):
nery army. I'm head of the army. She this next
and just have the corpet off and ship. I hate offices.
I'm in the field. What else you got on this guy? Show? Three?
That was the last thing? More stuff? So how about
that airline food? But tough crowd, tough crowds. Some time
(21:53):
at the Apollo when the clown come here and out
the same man with the broom and stuff. Man, get
your ship. It's like shoal about the polo used to
be good. Hey, remember the white guy came out there
saying Shaggy he won, y'all remember that. No, have you
(22:16):
ever seen down to Earth? Chris Rock, Yeah, I can't
think of the Asian dude. What is his name? He was?
He was just doing an adaptation with Cowboy Bebile. He
heard the I can't thinking his name right now. He
was on They had like their own like little showtime
on Apollo on the movie, and he was the one
(22:37):
got up and sign uh there is no way, no, no,
no no. He's sang a song on the on the
on the movie in the theater and they gave him
price like that was like clapping field like, oh this shocking.
But he was like a butchering the saw a real band.
It was sucked up. But that was only clapping because
(22:57):
he was Asian. So they had Chris come out there
and he's trying to do his jumps and ship and
I was pulling the funk out of him. But when
you say that, that sentiment is why I ain't going
to Because they'd be invited anybody to the cookout. They
(23:18):
could tap, they could dance a couple of steps, and
they're like, you invite to the cookout, ain't going to
nobody to cook out a little bittles, do a little
something for It's like, no, I'm not your now, pet, lovey,
I cook out. Its prestigious and that note, we need
to take a break, but when we come back, we
will be interviewing that bro after this and we are back,
(23:40):
so we are joined by a very prestigious three D animator.
Uh debor ms Debora. How's it going? How are you
doing today? I'm good? How are you doing? Good? Glad
to have you on on the Trap Nurse podcast. I've
been looking through your work and saying the things you
do and everything like that. I guess I'm gonna ask
the first generic Christian how did you get started? In
like animation? At three animation? I was gonna say, well,
(24:01):
don't you, Larry tell us a bit about herself first.
That's why I was going to That's why I said that. Okay, Al,
that's his opening. The ask just tell us how it
all started? That's open, like tell you. He was like, so,
how did it all start? But yeah, I grew up
like drawing and watching Disney stuff, and so I used
(24:22):
to have a little VHS tapes and um Disney books,
and so I would draw from the cover of the
VHS tapes and from the covers of different like comic
books and stuff, and got trace. People used to think
I traced and stuff. So UM. It was always always
good at art and math. So it was a constant
battle between going into something math related going into something
(24:43):
art related. So I went through and to be UM
an architect UM, and then I found out they didn't
really draw for real, and then I wanted to be
like I used to. I had a phase maybe in
middle school, where I always drew shoes from the side,
so I'm like, maybe industrial disider, don't know what you're
talking about. And then UM, in high school I went
(25:03):
to wanting to be um electrical engineer. And so luckily
I was smart and my dad is a professor, so
he got me and my brother. I have a twin brother,
and so he got us into dual enrollment UM. And
so I took seven college courses when I was in
high school, and the seventh class was animation. So all
thists like watching Disney like everybody else, story is like,
oh yeah, I was watching a Little Mermaid and I
(25:23):
wanted to do that. I was like, nah, I'm gonna
be something else. Or like I never thought it that
I could do it or wanted to do it until
I took that class like my senior of high school,
and I'm like, okay, this is a perfect like three
D animation is a perfect meld of my my analytical
and creative side. So like math kind of you don't
really have no math, but innately it's kind of like
math art. And so then I kind of had to
(25:45):
decide where to go to college, UM, since I found
it so late. And then I went to and I
wanted to go to college and study animation and play basketball,
which is not yeah, like ours don't have sports. I
had had three four years varsity UM, but like I
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only had like three schools to choose from. So it
was like r I t where I went to in Rochester,
New York, Savannah Colle of Art and Design in Savannah,
and then St. Clair College in Canada. And so I
kind of got lazy my senior year and I didn't
want to do a portfolio. So that's why I applied
to instead of SCAT and I got in, and then
I went to R I graduated UM with a degree
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in animation, and then that was in two thousand and eight.
So that was like a really hard time in America.
So I was having a hard time find out a job.
And so I like one of my college classmates who
I didn't even really talked to like that in college.
I just saw her Facebook and she was doing like
bungee jumping in and rafting, and I was like, what
are you doing and she was like, oh, I'm teaching
English and Korea. And so that's when I started to
look into it, because I never thought about teaching English
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or going to it, like I started talking think about
going to foreign countries and like uh college and stuff.
But I applied to do it and then like I
decided maybe May of two thousand nine to do it,
and then by August nine I was in there teaching English.
And then I did a year. I was about to
re up on another year and my friend was like,
don't you got a degree in animation? And I was like, oh, yeah,
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I do. And so I was like, okay, I'm about
to go back to America, but let me I've never
seen an animation studio. So this is how this is
my story about like how I accidentally got a job
in animation Korea. So like I took tours. I like
emailed a bunch of Korean companies and took tours and
like only two responded. One that was in the city
I was in Guangdru, which is in the south. And
then sold. And so when I went to the one
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is sold at the end of the well during the
tour in Korea. Yeah, because I had never seen animation studio,
so I was like, let me go see one right
quick before I go back back to America. And so
one and sold. They took me to into this animation
room and like it was like a bunch of cubicles
on the side, and I went down this long path
and then turn right and I was like a black man.
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That was like the last thing I boo. Yeah. So
like a lot of foreigners to them are like um
overseas directors or supervisors. So a lot of people from
like Canada will move to Korea or even America. UM
and be um like a supervisor to go back and
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forth with Fox and Morner Brothers and stuff like that.
And so I met him and then at the end
of the tour, they were like, do you have a portfolio?
And I was like no, but I can. And so
for the next four months, like to the day, I
worked on like in between teaching classes after school and
on the weekend, I worked on my portfolio and four
months of the day I sent it to him and
they invited me back up and gave me a job.
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And I remember like sitting in the office like, Okay,
when you teach English, they give you an apartment. That
all that's handled. But now I gotta like enter more
into real life and get my own apartment. So I
was like, I don't know where I'm gonna live, but
I think God got me. So yeah, I'll take the
he said, but I don't like there. And when out
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of it, like you wouldn't present the opportunity right if
you won't go, I guess. So I'm like yeah, And
so the vice president she helped me find a little
apartment and I worked there for a year. I was
playing on doing it two years, but I got I'm
like more introverted. So I got tired of people staring
at me. People and you can't tell if your blackness.
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And I had a bigger, a bigger afrow at the time.
So can I ask one random question while you was
in Korea that they hit you with the question you
know the question can I touch your hair? Luckily I
did not have to deal with that. Like the only
time I let somebody touch my hair was like I
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was teaching, because I taught at all girls middle school
and all girls High school, and I think at the
middle school there was one class I saw like every
other week, and so I felt bad that I didn't
see them that much. In this little girl as to
touch my hair, and I was like, okay, but my
natural personality is like na child, give you Yeah, you
had you had to hit that, you know what, just
because you at your age, right, I heard like ahead,
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I've heard about like this white woman. She said she
was in the little gym joke On, which is the
public bath house where you be to everybody, and the
Korean woman just went with her hands and touched her boobs.
I was like, oh, lor, I couldn't even imagine how
I would I would do with that. She would have
got chopping the guy the neck. But asked niked too,
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that's hot. Speaking of books, speaking of boots, how do
you how do you three d animate boobs? That's why
I wanted that's what? What? What was actually a good question,
do you'll be seeing the YouTube ads where they had
them on the ground minutes and her booty gingerly like
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why do you why she shooting a gun? Like why?
This category on Glover one the Don the Donald Glover
animated video where the boobs is just jumping like why
like like like yeah, like even if you back on Twitter,
that have like a little use like the hints high
anime and that's just like you know, in five minutes
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after watching this video, some people talk to a thing,
some people talk to a therapist. Other people just started
doing animations where when y'all jump me just jumping like
why why would why? Why the dude? Why why would
I want to see that man's fish? I actually do
have a good question on for you. Okay, So I
noticed that you like, you know, how you're seeing getting
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into animation, and you know you were talking about being introverted,
how you were getting too many stairs because you know
what I'm saying, you're black. You know, you're you're in
Asia at this point, so now it's you're successful. You
know what I'm saying. They have done, you know, quite
a few things. You know pretty much have some notes
on your resume. How do you feel about the advancement
about you know what I'm saying, black and brown people
being animated and not only being made it the way
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that we're being like the representation of our animation, like
even down yeah, you know what I'm saying, down to
the curve. Yeah, they're making more boluptuous you know characters.
Everybody's not thin, everybody's not big. There's a light brown
brown you know what's what's your take on that? We
came a long way from Dragon Ball, remember that one
due the lips, especially being a black woman. You know
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what I'm saying. Yeah, I actually do have a video plan,
like a little panel planned on my YouTube channel of
like the racial bias and like body discrimination and art
because like with individual arts, a lot of that stuff
i'd be seeing. I'm like, there's just one dude, and
I mean I made it a panel, so I had
to call nobody out. But his anatomy. He had this
(32:45):
big booty three D model and it's like the side
is like that it's just the anatomy. But I think
it's because he's not black. But I think we have improved.
Um Uh. Like I actually am on a project right
now that I can't talk about because NBA, but it's
a black project, and um, luckily I'm hitting an opportunity
to kind of be like a black expert because like
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their representation, yeah, because you're the one they go to.
Now is that our show runners black and our supervisor
director is black, but some of our team who does
the designs and stuff aren't. And so I have I
have this thought like, um, like they don't type when
they're looking at repersentats, like white people and other non
black people are afraid to type the word black and
google chirch because they think of racist and they up
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if they shout yeah, they look at it like that
when they search. Just get search people. But it's like
that you have to look up black. I did. I
just did like a little Twitter thread on this a
couple of weeks ago, where like, um, they kept calling
a bonnet. They kept calling like a head scarf, and
I'm like, no, can y'all relabel it in our system?
It's a bonnet, that's what it's called. That's what it's called, right, Like,
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it's not a sleeping cap. It's a bonnet, Like that's
culturally what it's called. And that they don't know what
it is. Yeah, And the prairie. Yeah, if they if you,
if they google sweeper Cat, they're gonna come up with
you on tweet the tweet bird grandma with the little bonnet.
So it's like, you gotta look up black body. Don't
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be afraid to type the word black. I do agree
with you that you have to pretty much like give visuals. Um.
I'm working on my own projects. I'm working on a
comic book. Um. And when I was reaching out for artists,
I really couldn't find like any black animators or artists.
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So he was a white, white girl, white woman. They
reached out to me. She she's very good in her art,
you know what I'm saying, But because she's white, you know,
some of the a lot of the scenes I have
to keep reiterating, you know, I want this person to
look like this, Like She'll give me the preview and
they'll be like white or orange or they have like
the racially ambiguous hair. And I'm like, all of my
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characters are black. So literally, every time I have to
give her a scene, I have to go and give visuals.
I want them to look like her. I want them
to be dark like him. These are the type of
clothes look at the nails, the hair texture like it's
it's been, it's been quite uh what's the word I'm
looking for, quite a little bit of a challenge. I'm
not gonna lie, but you know she does and when
I give her the visuals, but I can't be upset
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with her because she's not black. She doesn't understand because
we have this we all are human things, but there
is such thing as a black culture and so people
aren't tapped into that and so like, um, I just
feel like you have to be very specific with them.
And like when I'm scrolling through Instagram, I can tell
almost immediately most times when a white person has done
a black person because it won't look right. But I
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feel like there's this complex with people with white people
in America because there's some people in like Europe and
Brazil and stuff where they be white, but they do
black people. Right. So oh, my Russian artist, my Russia artist,
Oh my gosh, he can draw a black person really,
like I have a South America can draw black people. Yeah,
I had a character. All of us. They got black
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people too, so you know they used to White Americans
got black people, but they don't see us. I don't
know they don't see us and pere just normal niggerdum No.
Just ILL knew that dude, now he's from the Ukraine,
shout out to him. I knew that he could draw
back acknowledgement things like when I say they don't see this,
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it's like they don't. When you're drawing someone, you have
to actually see them, like for example, in the three
class in college, I remember it was my first three
D class. We had an assignment of doing a head
for our final project, and me and another black woman
we did ahead. But my ill was back in the day,
were like I don't know it was the zip drive
or the CD or the DVD something, but it wasn't playing,
(36:43):
and so I was like, dang it. Like because there
was like two white guys who did black people and
want the one white guy he did it was a
ball um black person man and the lips was like
a whitish pink and I was like okay. And then
the other white dude did a black guy and he
hit the hair you know when you you skin skin
(37:05):
your near in the scab com like the hair looked
like a scab, and then the lips was like red
and I was like I don't know black people look
like that. And luckily the black woman who's who seit
he worked, she did a really good like black child.
But I was like, dang it, like I was trying
to represent, but like I was like, what did y'all
(37:29):
be looking at that one one person's lips had was
whitish pink, and then the other person's lips was red.
So I don't know, they feel like you're trying, like
they were legit feel like this is you don't like this,
and then they don't want no critique. Because I was
in a conversation on YouTube just the other day for
three hours, bro, I know how black people look though
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I heard about it. Um somebody was pitching a show
with black children and the person was like, oh, how
about you make them animals? Like is that like that?
What that's what they do? If like that wanted to
be out there either like switch all the races I'm
making like animals. They do that because they don't want
to acknowledge, you know what, say take the accountability, like, hey,
(38:12):
we need to do better about other other races of
people that's not white. They don't look like us. How
many cartoons have you seen with all animals, but they
all talk black. The studio. The studio. The studio did
not want them to be all black kids. They gotta
figure out. Something got there and it was a black
woman who made back the argument. That's why I felt
(38:35):
like Tyrone and Unique. It wasn't like stereotypical though it
was there was named Tyrone and Unique, but they wasn't
like Offron always still me just so just pop out
of like wait for a way forward. I'm Tyrone, Like
this is good points to incorporate though, just like David
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was talking about, you know, this is our culture, this
is the black culture, and I'll cult you know community.
You know a lot of ty Rows you don't know,
it's a variation of That's still the happiest Tyrone I know,
though I can't say still from the clash, I still
you actually know what the quin I know too, oh ship.
(39:22):
I just actually did want to stay in the same area.
No two day one to stay in the same area.
It's like Highlander that can only be one, like not
another team movie. When there was two black dudes at
the party. That is hilary because I remember when I
was working for the State of Louisiana as an animation specialist.
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What about I was living in I was living in KENNERA,
but I was commuting to back. She's stay in New
Orleans earlier though, Yeah, yeah, I'm a sleeping for I'm
in the opposite. So we were in our old office
and like I remember, um, miss Judy, she came to
(40:03):
talk to me, right, and then I was like, damn,
I forgot to tell Miss Judy something. So I was
like going to follow Miss Judy, and she had went
this way. I went around the other way. But it
so happened like all the black people that worked there
that like that were there that day all converged, like
like Cedric from Printing, like she could like we all
converged on the same spot. And then we all got scared,
like there's too many black people like this. First they
(40:25):
don't think we're having a meeting. We're gonna take over now.
We gotta stop, we gotta stop. They all starting to
look at us right now, and they realized that it's
a lot of black people here. I swear at the
same company when we moved to a new office, every
time it was three or more black people, and I
was involved, like one of my one of my white coakers,
and it was not always the same person. They had
(40:45):
to make a comment because of a black host. It's
innately ingrained in them that more than three people black
people cannot commune commune together. Somebody having a private meeting. Yeah, yeah,
black people. Bro that I ain't gonna lie. Sometimes I'd
be like, all right, that was doing. But sometimes I'll
be like, like, for example, bro, I can't make the
(41:08):
ship up real quick, real story time, I passed out
in Popeyes. I hadn't eaten all day. I had been
moving around a lot, and I passed out at the
County of Popeyes next to my homeboy before I can
make my order. So anyway, it's fast forward. I'm at
the hospital. They're thinking. They're thinking that I'm praying. They
really think that I'm praying, and I'm trying to hide
the preggert listen. No, So the doctor come in pretty
(41:29):
much it was like, you know, we got your test results.
Everything's fine. So he got over the store. He was like, so,
you know you passed out at Popeyes. I say yeah,
I said I was moving around a lot. You know
what I'm saying. I didn't get a chance to eat.
And he was like Oh, all that fried chicken was
too much for you? Huh at your pass? No? No,
I was like you skilled man. He was like, I
(41:53):
would have went to human resources. It ain't any motherfucker
you take a joke, but that one chicken too much
for your humh snack? That one on me. No. That's
why I like the white people I worked with my
old job, because they didn't bother us like that, Like
they didn't have them race issues there. It was surprised me,
(42:14):
like no micro aggression or nothing. So I was like,
I like these people. They took they had to have
the racial class off the office. Remember what Coca Cola
did that and said be less white. Remember when McDonald's
had their face. What they had to do is saying
(42:34):
about the chicken nuggets in the why you gotta be
how about how about the US Congress the Neil down
and cloth that was just it Kelly and Conway or
what's the old lady name? Oh that's what one them
(42:56):
through a what kind of forever? I wanted to jump?
Kicker is on the same yeah, yeah, And the dude
in the back you can see he obviously on his
cell phone or they kneeling down. I was like, wow,
man names in that picture. I couldn't handle that. I
had a stroke off that one. She just did something else,
(43:18):
But she just did something else, creaming for this a
weekend she read, she read a palm, a bon bono
palm to the people of Ukraine. What they were talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, Bunn. Did y'all see the white dude were
rapping in the plane on Texas? Okay? Yeah, niggers, y'all
(43:38):
gotta answer for that when y'all on court with y'all,
man's oh them them meetings are open, so they do
that all the time there. Yeah, that dude apparently goes
around that ship. Was funny. I was like, is this
a freestyle or is this written down? Because it's sucking
You're either way, But I can tell, like, man, who
mans is this? And who had to speaking? We had
(44:01):
to speaking. I'm gonna I'm gonna bring it back to
the three d we did? So what like when you
because like I said, I asked earlier about the family
guy in the Cleveland show, what's specifically were you able
to do in there? Like? What was your role? Okay?
So um, I was what's called my specialty is what's
called three D modeling. So, um, when you open up
(44:23):
a three D program, there's nothing in it, so you
have to create everything. When you a toy, story finding, dory,
incredible has to be created. Yeah, So I'm I'm what's
called a three D modeler, so I build things. You
can be a character modeler, you could be like an
environment modeler, prop modeler, so I was mostly an environment
I did all the vehicles. All the vehicles and Family
(44:45):
Guy in Shore are done in three D, some of
the backgrounds and some props. So usually like um, when
when there's like a complicated shot, like I did an episode. Um,
I did the Amry Els episode of Family where they
go to Canada and then shot where they have the
camera go around Stuet's head and you know, to keep
(45:05):
perspective withdrawing with his football head is really hard. So
we had to just create create him at three D
and then make camera moving as much easier to do that.
So UM, I was like a vehicle, prop and environment modeler.
And so like they use a process called tune shading.
That's why to the people who aren't familiar with like
animation or three D or or like the composition of
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compositing of it. You won't be able to tell about
his three D, but I can tell because it's like,
this is my thing. I was just so Simpsons start
doing that like a lot of their studios, Like you
see like a lot of cartoons that's been out for
a while. Then it'll be like that one new season,
it looks slightly more h D right family, like the
little problem that they just came out with the Penny,
(45:47):
they all look a little slightly more advanced, you know,
as far as the animation. I just watched the last episode,
the most latest episode last night, and when the when
the ferris wheel kind of start rolling, I was like, oh,
that's three D L Yeah. So um, it's just like
overseas studios. It makes it makes the process easier and
you can reuse stuff um quickly. So now that I'm
(46:09):
at a studio in l A, I kind of get
to see because I always told people like, Okay, in
l A, they do the like creative pre production stuff
and then they do the grunt work in like Asia
or whatever or Mexico or wherever they decide to um
have the animation done. But now I get to see
the pre stuff at the studio I'm at now because
we're gonna send it to an overseas studio, So we're
doing the designs, scripts, um and all that type of
(46:30):
stuff so to hand off to the studio so they
can animate it so they polished, really need So are
you like so you said earlier that you know you
can't unless you're like an an animation. You know what
I'm saying, and understand the composite, Oh animation, you won't
be able to tell whether it was done in three
D because, like you just said, you know a Family Guy.
When you watch Family Guy, they it looks I guess
(46:53):
like a two D animation like it was. Depends on
your level of understanding because the the regular person won't
probably won't be able to tell. But if you're more
into it, you can tell. Like I had an ex
boyfriend who didn't like he didn't even know the difference
between two D and three D, and I was like, so, like,
it's very obvious, but you know, some people just don't know.
(47:14):
So just because they don't know what the DS. I
bet you if you ask them what the D stands
for two D and three D, they couldn't tell you.
What I mean, dimensional yeah, yes, okay, right, one question, okay,
because you do you say you do three dal designs
for like landscapes that shows that shows ship. I guess yeah,
I called I'm what's called a hard service model alert,
(47:35):
so everything with a hard surface. So okay, I'm trying
to get more into characters, okay, because you know me
and Tonio big a game and so you know we
that we thrive off throwing ourselves. And Dan just asked
landscapes and that ring right now, Elden Ring right now.
It's beautiful as hell, but fu elden Ring right now.
So I want to I want to ask what would
(47:56):
you probably say, like as like a landscape, well is
the hardest one up and you're probably most tedious one
that you just had to just go ahead and just
hit the hacker man click click click stress. This one
wasn't necessarily tedious, but I remember, um I was in
Korea and they gave me a background because so I did.
(48:16):
I did a Family Guy, Cleveland show, Batman, The Brave
and the Bowl and the Scooby Doo straight to DVD movies.
So there was an episode a movie for Scooby Doo
and they had this like cliff just if you imagine
like you know, the Grand Canyon or something, Scooby Doom,
which one was right, which I know, I know I
did the Fantastaurus one, but I kind of like lost track,
(48:37):
so I have to find like I have a hard
drive with all that stuff ONNNY, but it's about to
paying somebody a lot of I'm about to pay somebody
a lot of money to get the stuff off. But um,
like there was a cliff that they wanted me to do,
and I was trying to do it, and they wanted
me to a term called texturing, where you put the
color on it make it look pretty how I was
supposed to and so um, I was struggling, like my
(49:00):
director who just kept saying it wasn't looking like it
was supposed to look. And I'm like, what you want
me to do? Because I'm not for real a texture
artist either, so I'm like, I'm doing what I can
and he just kept being upset, like because I was
there for a certain amount of time. He's like, you
should just know what's in my head, and like and
this has been broken English, because like there was English thing.
(49:21):
There was like nobody in my department who really talk
spoke like fluent English, so it was like me speaking
bron broken Korean and them speaking broken English. So I
remember like, if they frustrated me, So the way the
building was set up, like all the offices will be
on the outside and the inside, so there was like
a walkway, like a square walkway, so if they frustrated me,
(49:41):
I would go to another floor and just walk around
to cool off. This day, I walked around. I went
outside and walked around the Korean block, which is similar
to a New York City block, because I was like,
I need a lot of time to calm down because
y'all are pissing me off. I don't know what you
wanted something. And so I remember in New Orleans, I
went as best to watch there's a very animation famous
(50:03):
guy Floyd Floyd Norman. He was the first black person
to work for He was doing his documentary at Essence
Fest and I got to talk to him because it
ain't nobody know who he was, so I was like, oh,
that's Floyd Norman. And at the end of his movie
he was doing like drawings for people and I was like, okay.
He mentioned I don't know if it was in the
in the documentary or in the talk after he mentioned
how he hated Scooby Doo. So I was like, can
(50:24):
you draw Scooby Doo to commemorate our hate for Scooby
for working on Scooby Doo? And so I got that's
what wearing storage like a drawing from Floyd Norman. Yeah,
so one last thing, I see you got the blurred
over shirt on you. They affill yourself. Yeah, they're partly illuminating. Yeah. Yeah,
(50:46):
we got a secret organization between the black you know
podcast shoutout to say I didn't look at you. I
(51:07):
did on my YouTube channel, I did a panel of
like a YouTube live of like D nine Greeks and animation.
I think all the D nine Greeks was on my panel.
Like there's only like two It's hard to find some
D nine people in animation, but it was like probably
two people missing me Snacks and Morgan. We went to Gramlin. Um.
(51:27):
I have a cousin, a couple of cousins that with
the Gramlin and a lot of people for Romulus because
I went to high school and Rymulists were bad. Well,
we gotta wrap up this amazing interview. We appreciate you
for joining us at this time, I just want to
open the floor for you and like you know, tag
whatever you want to and shout out whatever you want to,
all right, So if you want to follow me, um
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Animator all one word, Um black Wolmanator dot com on
all social media. And then I just started rebranding myself
for my three D monel and stuf, so that's get
the three model and everything. I have a YouTube channel
where I've interviewed over sixty black animation professionals because it
took me so long to find animation and I want
(52:09):
I don't want that to happen to other kids, so
I want to I want to introduce animation to other
people earlier. So I want people. I want to interview
people that look like us, and we are a few,
but there's more than we realize, so that's very important.
So that's YouTube dot com slashback. I just got my subscription.
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(52:31):
was devor Annison, thank you again for joining us, Thank
you for having me. Well, guys, I think that banter
brought us to the end of another incredible episode of
the Trap Nerves Podcast. Let's go ahead and sign off
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to all the followers, the new followers on Twitter, on Instagram.
Shout out to pot Sauce. They put us on the
eight most must listen to podcast list recently and they
did a really great article. Uh Me and Dre was
on the show with them when they first started out.
I think around this time last year the first time
I got my first sense of that j you can't
just strange drink model, Oh my god. YEA. Shout out
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to Jose if you don't want to sponsor me. But yeah,
shout out to pot Sauce for that. That was a
dope article. Uh yeah man. And also, yeah, I forgot
to mention last week I got to see Michael blacks
and he really you know, he said, shout out to
us and shout out for the season three. So shout
out to Michael Blackson that uh that No Cat company
towards something like freaking hilarious. All of them killed it,
freaking hlarious, d C. You'll fly closed it. He killed it.
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Carlos Miller, the whole group, uh, little Duval, all of them.
That's a freaking incredible tour. I forgot to mention that
last week. But yeah, it's it's it's dope. It was dope.
It's the Trap nurs Podcast. We are out of here.
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