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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We will never forget or forgive the Biden administration for
its disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan that got thirteen service members killed,
left behind Americans and Afghanistan. No accountability, no answers, just
utter shamefulness from this administration. Recently, some of the gold
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Star families were able to testify before a congressional forum,
telling their stories about the loved ones that they lost,
trying to get some answers on behalf of their loved ones,
answers that this administration refuses to answer. Let's take a
listen to Cheryl Rex. She is a gold Star mother.
She lost her son, Dylan Morola. He was a Marine
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lance corporal. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
When Joe Biden, our elected president, entered the room. When
he approached me, his words to me were, my wife, Jill,
and I know how you feel. We lost our as
well and brought him home in a five draped coffin.
My heart started beating faster and I started shaking, knowing
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that their son died from cancer and they were able
to be by his side. Also wondering how someone could,
honestly sorry, be so heartless to say he knew how
I felt. A little over twenty four hours and learning
of my son's death. After this encounter, I have never
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had any personal correspondence, nor has my son been honored
or his name spoken by this commander in chief or
his administration.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I was ryl Rex. We're gonna hear from her in
this episode, her son, as I mentioned, one of the
thirteen that were killed at the Kobble Airport with the
withdrawal from Afghanistan. We're going to talk to her about
her son, just hear a little bit more about Dylan
and what her experiences have been like with this. Admitted,
just trying to get some answers. Here's Cheryl with Cheryl.
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I really appreciate you taking the time to come on
the show and tell us about your son and what
happened with the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Thank you, Lisa, Thank you for having me join.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Before we get started, tell us about Dylan.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Dylan was amazing, very kind hearted to everybody, always smiling,
always happy, just a great personality towards everything, never negative,
just always wanting to support the next person right next
to him.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It sounds like someone who really made an impact in
a lot of lives. How long was Dylan in Afghanistan.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Dylan was in Afghanistan only for a little less than
two weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So he went specifically for the withdrawal.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Correct Dylan and his battalion were actually deployed to Jordan
at the time when the withdrawal process was happening so quickly.
When it turned from the withdrawal too an evacuation is
when the units were sent out there to assist.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Why did he decide to join the military? You know,
I'm sure he was very proud of having done that.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
We have a long history of family that has been
in the military. He grew up listening to a lot
of their stories and the pros the cons. He he
loved the military channel at a very young age, always
just enthused with it. I can't pick one specific aspect
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of why he committed to it, but I know it
was never not something on his mind from a very
young age.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So it's just something he grew up with and always
kind of had on his heart and his mind. How
did you find out that he had lost his life
in Afghanistan?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Actually had woken up that morning to an alert on
my phone from a news that had said that there
had been an explosion in Afghanistan. Knowing my son's location,
I immediately started to call him. I was calling him
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over and over, I was texting him and zero response.
I kept looking for whatever I could in any information
I could find on the Internet that was linked to Afghanistan,
and I wasn't being able to find anything. I spent
the rest of the day just trying to call my
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son and contact him. I had left the house for
a short time because I hadn't eaten all day because
of my stretits level. My parents actually received the knock
on the door. I received the phone call from my
dad to get to the house immediate lee and I
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kept asking why, and he said, I already know.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I mean, I just I can't imagine as a parent
to have to go through that. I just I'm so sorry.
I just I can't even imagine the pain with that.
I'm just truly sorry.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
At first, you're kind of shocked, and then it just
leads into so many emotions. I actually collapsed knowing what
that meant.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I heard you talking about when you had discussions with
President Biden. He tried to tell you that he understood,
but you know, he lost his son to cancer, or
he didn't lose his son in the line of duty.
So tell us about that conversation with him, and why
why do you think he lied?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
We were all awaiting this plane arrival to go on
this tarmac to receive the dignified transfer of our children.
We awaited in this room for a couple of hours,
not knowing that process. It was asked whoever wishes to
remain in the room that he Biden would be coming
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in to meet with us. I chose to say. I
said I was going to stay on behalf of my
son and my country. And as he approached me, he
just looked at me and said, my wife, Jill, and
I know how you feel. We lost our son as well,
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and we brought him home in a flag draped coffin.
He never once mentioned my son's name. He didn't acknowledge
what was just happened in Afghanistan. Nothing. He made the
entire conversation, which lasted limited to that about himself and
his son, knowing that he died from cancer. There was
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no correlation on my son's death versus his. I was
really upset. I was hurt. I was angry every emotion
that this person as an individual, not even being the
president of the United States just being a human being
could honestly compare losing a child to an illness versus
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losing my son in a combat situation defending our country
and saving lives.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
It's almost as if he's trying to use his son's
death to shield himself from the consequences of his actions
that led to the death of your son and twelve
other military men and women.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
It was and after the process, I did realize people
had started to tell me that he has done this
multiple times that I wasn't the first one to hear
the story. It was very heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Did you see him looking at his watch as reported?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I did so. They had us outside to a witness
our kids coming off this aircraft and be placed into
transport vehicles. And the first time I did not see
it personally, I heard somebody from behind me said, did
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you just see that? Did he really just do that
right now? And I looked up and I saw him
putting his hand down. After that, I kept my eyes
between watching our kids come off that plane and him
personally as to witnessing him for the rest of the
rest of the Marines to come off that aircraft. Every
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single one he looked at his watch.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I mean, it's just incredibly disrespectful to not give the
families of the fall in the dignity of his time.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
On top of that, we had been waiting for a
very long time. It was probably two and a half hours,
and we kept questioning why we were waiting so long.
Shouldn't we be outside, shouldn't we be watching this plane
come in? Why are we still in this room? And
nobody was understanding why we were two and a half
hours late. They just kept saying, they're staging, They're staging.
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I believe in my heart just from the results I
guess of how he has treated us, that he was
the reason that he was late.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Do you feel like they've been this administration has been
transparent about the death of your son and what happened
that day.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I personally have not received a phone call, an email,
any personal correspondence with any of them. The next time
I had anything was a letter sent to my address
that was trust or signed. I don't even think of
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a signed. I think it was stamped of Joe Biden.
And that was the only thing I've ever received from him,
was a letter.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
What do you want people to know about the way
that the Biden administration handled the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I believe if you're hiding something and not telling the truth,
you're going to push the situation aside, and you want
people to forget, and you want people to not see
what was truly happening. Our whole situation got locked into
a classified file and pushed away. So every time that
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we try to find anything or get answers or anything
on our kids, it's unavailable. Everything is classified by this administration.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I can't imagine being a parent and watching the subsequent
press conferences and you know, Joe Biden addressing the nation
because Ida as America and who did not lose you know,
my on who did not lose someone I love so much.
I was frustrated with the lack of answers, him continuously
turning his back to answering questions, and just the lack
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of consequences for this failed withdrawal. You know, no one
was held accountable in the administration.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's very heartbreaking, and not just for our situation, but
if it was any other president, I would feel the
same exact way I feel about this one. If you
disrespect why you have freedoms and those who are serving
our country to fight for those freedoms, then you're probably
the problem, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
And it was also frustrating. You know, not only did
he get our military men and women killed as you know,
way too closely, but you know, we left Americans behind.
It's just that's not the way that we're supposed to
be as a country. You know, we don't leave Americans
behind like that.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
We left Americans behind and our Afghan allies behind. We
did we say sorry, there's no we isn't there. Our
military service members did it such an incredible job of
evacuating as many civilians as they possibly could to ensure
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their safety and freedoms for their life. I just I
don't understand why they were so unhonored and unrespected for
their sacrifices that they did have.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I would assume it's because this administration doesn't want to
bear the accountability with that, you know, and to give
these service members the honor they deserve. I think this
administration is afraid that, you know, they're going to get
the blame. But they should get the blame because you know,
these are their decisions and this is their doing.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Right, if I made the decision to go down the street,
and harm another person. I would have consequences as a civilian.
Why do these people think that they're above the law
per se, feel that they can get away with cover
ups and lies on something I ultimately feel was because
they conducted this and they failed at conducting this in
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the correct manner.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
What was it like to testify before Congress and to
share your story and have that opportunity to be heard.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Leading up to it, I honestly felt, here's our chance
to be heard, here's our chance to have our stories
be known. Just a glimpse of them. This is just
a very, very small beginning of it. I got up there,
and obviously my nerves got the best of me, and
I had a really hard time speaking publicly. But I
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really hope that my messages got across in the appropriate
manner to show people that it was a cover up
and it's being pushed away and our voices are not
being heard.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You did a great job. You should be very proud
of yourself. That takes a lot of guts to you
to stand there in front of America and to tell
the truth and to tell people about what happened. So
you should be very proud of yourself. In the way
that you honored your son with that, What else would
you like people to know? This is your platform, so
say whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I just want people to know that my son did
not die because of your ethnicity, your religious beliefs, or
ultimately your political background. My son died saving as many
lives as he possibly could to ensure their futures and
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their freedoms to live a life like his. I don't
want my son's story to be based on politics, even
though those have chosen to make it politics. This basically
goes down to good versus evil, and we need to
stand up together. And I'm going to keep fighting for
those answers to my questions that I've been holding in
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for two years because I feel I have the right
to know exactly how my son died, where exactly he
was located at the time, and not be lied to
about it.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Well, I think we can all agree with that we
honor your son, and sure, how can people help out?
You know, how can people help get answers? You know
what can we do.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
At this point? I guess what I've been told, keep
calling your congress members. We need to keep the I
guess pressure on the situation so that we can declassify
these documents that they've ultimately pushed away and classified. I
feel that if more American people put the pressure, we
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can get those documents declassified and we will have some
answers to our questions and people will know the truth
of what was really happening in Afghanistan, not what they
want you to believe on National TV. That's all been
chopped up and bits and pieces here. I feel it's
really important that some people believe that divide and conquer
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is the way when actually we stand as united we
stand in America. We need to keep that unity together
and demand answers.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well. I hope you're testimony, along with others, helps encourage
that to happen and helps relight a fire underneath members
of Congress to seek and get those answers for you
and the other families. Cheryl, I really appreciate you taking
the time. I know this is hard. Thank you, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I greatly appreciate you living as me personally have a voice.
I think it's important that people learn the truth at
this point.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
That was Cheryl Rex, mother of the following Marine Lance
Corporal Dylan Marola, appreciate her joining the show. I can't
imagine how hard that is for her to have to
talk about all of this. I truly hope that she
gets the answers that she deserves, that the other families deserve.
What a shameful time in American history. I want to
thank you guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday,
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but you can listen throughout the week. I want to
think John Cassio, my producer, for putting the show together.
Till next time,