April 1, 2025 • 29 mins
In this episode, Lisa welcomes Tudor Dixon, a former Michigan gubernatorial candidate and host of the "Tudor Dixon Podcast," to discuss a range of political issues. They delve into the Trump administration's performance, proposed tariffs on foreign automobiles, and the state of the Democrat Party. Tudor critiques the Democrats' focus on personal attacks and praises Trump’s policies. They also discuss the media's portrayal of political activists, the rise of political violence, and the future of the Democrat Party. Tudor shares her thoughts on potentially running for office again and emphasizes the importance of effective political messaging and voter engagement. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So I'm excited to have my friend Tutor Dixon on
the show today. She is the host of the Tutor
Dixon Podcast. She previously ran for governor in Michigan, and
she might be running again. We'll get into that, but
I want to know how is Trump doing? You know,
what does she think of the administration so far? Also,
you look at the Tesla firebombings and how unhinged the
(00:23):
left is.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Is this an out liar or just a pattern of
behavior from the left.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Also, want to get her take on these Trump's twenty
five percent auto tariff.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You have groups like UAW love it.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
But then also some of these critics are saying that
car prices could jump anywhere from four thousand to fifteen thousand.
She lives in the state of Michigan. We all know
that Detroit is the auto capital of the world. So
what does she think? Which side is she on or
is it maybe somewhere in the middle. Also, Dems are
looking at a record low twenty seven percent approval rating.
What's next for them? Where does the Democrat Party go
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from here? And lastly, as I mentioned before, is she
running again? Her name has been floated for a possible
senatorial run. Also maybe a gub edatorial run as well.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
What is she thinking?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Will she let us know on today's episode, Stay tuned
for my friend Tutor Dixon.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, Tutor Dixon, it's great to have you on my friend.
I've missed you.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Now you're so busy. I watch what you're doing. I'm
so impressed. I see you on Fox and Friends Weekend
and I just love it. Every time you're on. I
love it because I feel like, oh, that's my friend.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well, I love you. We met at a conference and
it was like stepbrothers. Did we just become best friends? Also,
I was just telling Tudor that my morning started off
with me knocking over my Starbucks latte into my makeup
brush bag, so just all my makeup brushes covered in latte.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And then I selfishly thought, I honestly I want to
feel really sad about it, but I selfishly thought, great,
have to really be good on this because she's already
had a bad day and I have to lift her up.
Isn't that I know?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I Well, that's why I said to it, my tutor,
I need you to carry this interview, no pressure, but
all the partimes kidding, well, I'm great to I'm so
glad to have you on. Obviously a lot to discuss,
a lot going onto the country, and also potentially, well
there's always a lot going on with you, but you know,
potentially some big announcements maybe in the future that we'll
get into. But let's start off with just you know,
(02:26):
how you think the past couple months have been going
with the Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
How is he doing so far?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
What's what's sort of your your assessment of you know,
this first period of time.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Well, I of course think he's doing great because I
love what he's doing. But it's not me alone. It
would be one thing if it was just me saying
that in the country was like, oh gosh, this is
a disaster. But you see that his approval ratings are
staying high. The Democrats approval ratings are the lowest they've
ever been, and they're kind of in a meltdown. I
mean they're not even talking policy stuff. They're just out
there swearing and making fun of people. And so I
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think that that for us is good. But what Donald
Trump has been doing has been phenomenal when it comes
to just going in there, and no other president has
said I'm going to cut waste, I'm going to do this.
I'm going to do that, and then gotten in there
on day one and been like, Okay, we've got the
people in place to do this. And it's interesting to
me that that's scared people because it's what we all
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voted for. But there's this faction of very loud people
who keep saying this is scary, and this is dangerous,
and I think change is scary for people, but this
is necessary to avoid bankruptcy. And that's what I don't
understand why people aren't seeing that what.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I thought that was what was so interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I'm not sure if we're able to watch the Doge
interview with Brett bare on Special Report, but it's like
the media wants everyone to believe that the dose people
are just like eighteen year olds playing call of duty
in their parents' basement, when in reality, it's like, you know,
the Airbnb founder and CEOs and CFOs and you know
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people who left jobs who don't need to be doing this,
who just want government to be more efficient, to work
better on behalf of the American people, and who realize
that if we don't cut spending now, you know, we'll
end up in financial ruin as a country.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So I found it so interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
You make such a great point because I looked at
those folks that are out there that are in those positions,
and I thought, I'm watching these people come out and say,
you know, I don't have to be doing this, but
I want to do it for the country. And I think, gosh,
the number of times I see comments on social media
and I'm sure this will resonate with people out there
that say, why don't we have executives step out of
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their position and run for office? And I think because
it is such a toxic thing for people to step
out of their careers and take that risk in the
middle of their life to say, gosh, I'm going to
put my reputation in the line. Because you only have
your reputation. So if you put your reputation on the
line and you lose, then you can destroy your life.
(04:54):
It's very interesting to me these guys. They're like, yeah,
I don't have to be elected and I can serve,
and they're willing to do it, willing to put their
life on hold to serve. And I find it fascinating
that the media has tried to paint them as a
bunch of silly nineteen year olds that don't know what
they're doing, because it has really protected these people who
are very smart executives to be able to come in.
(05:17):
They haven't had to go through the scrutiny that a
candidate does, but they have the credentials based on what
they've been able to do in their life. I mean,
it really is a unique situation that we have going
on right now with some great Americans willing to give
up their time to do it. And I was glad
it was highlighted with Brett, but I also think it's
good to have these people protected as well. You know,
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these Democrat crazy people that have been or just you know,
these folks that are like far leftists that have been
inside the government determining where money goes and how to
almost launder money. Nobody knows who they are. Why should
these guys have to go out there and be scrutinized
when they have the credit to go in there and
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say we're not we're not taking money for ourselves, we're
getting rid of spending.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Well, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And I think that's also why you know they've gone
after Elon so much and why they've just been so
malicious towards him as well, is because they want to
keep people like him outside of politics, you know, they
want to keep effective people outside of politics. They want
business people to be like, you know what, I don't know.
I don't want that, Like, you know, I don't want
to put myself in that position.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So do you do you think that's why they're they're you.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Know, kind of being so malicious.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
But I also I think that it's also because there
is such a large brand that comes along with him,
and they can activate their base. But look at how
what happens when they activate their base. And I really
believe that this is backfiring on them because we've seen
all these videos of people going and keen teslas and
doing other things that are just horrible to individual people's cars.
(06:55):
And the funny thing is these are leftists for the
most part, the people that buy the Tesla's, you know,
these they are generally not the far right conservatives that
you think you're going after. These are people who are
typically left of center who have bought a Tesla and
they're Tesla owners. And you see that they've even called
for people to go out and go to these Tesla
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dealerships and continue to attack. You've seen the calls for
violence from the left when we were mad about some
of the things that the left was doing when we
weren't in power. It wasn't that it was like, hey,
don't buy bud Light. Hey you know what, let's boycott
Target for a few months and see if they will
change and see if they will listen to their consumers.
(07:37):
That was so much more effective than what I see
on the left. But it scares me that they think
violence is the answer.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But you know, it's been the answer for them though,
you know, I mean, there's been a long list of
things that you know, like you look at the twenty
sixteen congressional shooting. You look at Lee Zelden almost getting
stabbed on the goobernatorial trail in New York. Trump almost
assassinated Toy just as Kavanaugh, someone showed up outside is
his house, you know, wanting to kill him. You look
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at the fire bombing of pregnancy centers, or even when
President Trump was inaugurated in twenty seventeen, you know, there
are fire the limit was set on fire. There was
so much just right like the you know, the Summer
of love, right, the summer of riots.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's like these you know, I talk about militant.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
You know, now, you make such a good point, because
when you lift that list right one after another, it
is shocking and it's something that we I think, have
given grace to and forgotten and passed on. And it's
something that we shouldn't. I mean, you should be going
through that list on a daily basis so people have
to remember this. And I talk about the Summer of Love.
(08:42):
People died in that Chad zone or the Chad Zone,
whatever they the multiple names that they had for it.
But young people we're talking about, well, I think the
one kid was sixteen or seventeen, the other kid was nineteen.
These are young people that died in these zones. And
we never talk about the fact that this violence led
to a loss of life. But you look at what
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happened in Minneapolis and these attempted attacks on conservative politicians.
I mean, you mentioned Donald Trump, but you know, I'd
even forgotten about Leezelden. And it is very unappealing to
run for office when you know that there are people
out there who don't just disagree with what you believe
is right. They want you dead, I mean, and they
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don't even hide it. I've seen these people. I saw
a woman interviewed the other day who said that she
absolutely still wants that to happen to Donald Trump, and
openly she has a mask on, you know' she's a coward.
She's not going to say it out in the public.
She has a mask on. It's illegal. She's calling for
someone's murder. It's illegal. But they don't even care.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So I guess where did the Democrats go from here?
Because we've all seen the approval ratings, you know, twenty
seven percent for an NBC poll. It's the lowest they've
ever registered, going back to nineteen ninety for that poll.
So where where does the party or the Democrat Party
go from here?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Look, that's how I feel until I see things like
the special election in Florida where it's like, oh gosh,
it's really close in a red state of Florida where
we had a really safe seat where Mike Walls was
and now it could potentially turn blue. And I think, Okay,
here we are as Republicans. You cannot get comfortable. Just that,
(10:26):
I think is the message. Don't look at this and say, man,
they're so radical, no one's ever going to come back
to them, because they are very creative when it comes
to messaging, and when they are looking at specific races
that they want to win to take power back, they're
strategic about it. So where does the party go? I
think the party will target people very specifically coming up
(10:50):
in the midterm elections. And my fear is that if
we are not on top of that messaging and if
we are not letting people know, like even the list
you just went through. That's why I said, man, it's
so important that people remember this because if we are
not on top of it, the party will take back
their power, and then who knows where they'll go because
they are split. They have this radical new system of
(11:14):
going out on the Internet and all posting the same things,
filled with curse words and very negative messaging. And yet
somehow they are saying, oh, Jasmine Crockett's like the new
face of the party, and AOC is the new face
of the party. But they're pushing p I mean they've
pushed out Joe Biden. Nancy Pelosi pushed out Joe Biden.
She was trying so long, remember to keep the party
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together as what she thought the Democrats were, and you know,
keeping AOC in line. Now she's she didn't have a
generation between she and AOC to rely on for some reason,
because she held onto power for so long, she was
never willing to give up the rings. So this is
her own fault because she was never willing to train
someone up behind her. She left this massive generational block
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between she and AOC. She's gone now. Now they're pushing
Chuck Schumer out of the way. The party is going
to shift to AOC's generation, and she right now looks
like the leader. So what happens to the party unless
somebody can strategically come in and say, man, there's going
to be some folks in their forties and fifties that
are going to get this back on track, they go
(12:18):
full socialist and I don't think they can get back
the majority at that point.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
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three two five. So I wanted to ask you, obviously,
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you know Michigan, Detroit car capital. So President Trump briefly
announced that he would impose a twenty five percent tariff
on foreign automobiles imported into the United States.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
We've seen the move supported.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
By you know, the United Auto or auto workers saying
it's a victory for autoworkers. However, you know, critics are
saying that it's going to increase prices for consumers potentially
anywhere from four thousand to fifteen thousand per vehicle depending
on how much of the cars imported. What do you think,
(14:03):
you know, which side of that are you on or
are you stored in between things, or what do you make.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I'm absolutely opposed to I'm absolutely opposed to us allowing
foreign car companies to bring cars into the United States
with no repercussions whatsoever, because you know, I want to
support our American car makers, but I also look at
I mean, we can never let Chinese vehicles get into
the American market, and that's something that I think Donald
Trump has been intentional about protecting US. If you look
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at Germany, they allowed all the electric vehicles to come
in from China. They just closed down three Volkswagen plants
in Germany because they can't compete with these Chinese vehicles.
We don't want our manufacturers to close down. We certainly
don't want the national security implications of having our transportation
rely that we have to rely on a foreign country,
(14:52):
certainly not a foreign country like China. So it's very
important what he's doing, and he does it strategically. And
I know there's been some conversation about, well, some of
these parts will go back and forth across the border
in Canada, and Mexico multiple times. Donald Trump, as you've seen,
has not done made radical moves that he cannot negotiate
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into different areas to make sure the Americans are getting
the best possible deal, but also making sure America first
is top of mind for everybody and continues to be pushed.
So if you've watched what he's done with Mexico and Canada,
you know he's he's said, Okay, this is when I'm
putting the tariff in. There have been negotiations. Sometimes the
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tariff gets delayed, sometimes the tariff gets changed. He is
a man with leverage. He knows the United States has
the most leverage in the world. He is a master negotiator.
For anybody who thinks that Donald Trump is going to
just crash the economy because he's going to put tariffs
in that are to protect American manufacturers and bring manufacturing back,
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they have no idea what it is to negotiate, and
I think they I think they don't because I think
they're so used to some of these legislators that come
in and they get elected based on being loud and
being popular and being great with young kids, but not
based on experience. Just like we were talking about those
doge guys earlier that have the experience of being executives.
It's not what you see from a lot of the
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people who are critiquing Donald Trump. But he does have
that that ability to understand your leverage and negotiate will
keep American manufacturing safe and grow it in the future.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
We're also used to having a coma tost president, and
so I think it's like it's a it's a shock
to the system to go from having a president who
the Special Council said was basically not fit to stand
trial but was okay being president but couldn't run for
reelection but stayed in power, to now having a president
who doesn't sleep and is working seven days a week,
(16:54):
and you know, like it's it's like a I think
people it's like whiplash, right, Like it's like going from
one extreme to the other. Thing. I think one thing
that's obviously great for the country but also infuriating is
to see that, you know, we were told time and
time again that all like the border crisis can't be
solved by executive order.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
It's a congressional thing.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We need by you know, all these excuses, and you know, meanwhile,
allowing you know, millions and millions of illegal aliens to
come to the United States, and then in like a
month President Trump already solved the border crisis. And you know,
now we're seeing border crossings at the lowest level in decades.
So it's like you could have done it along, yet
(17:36):
you chose not to.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Well, what I think is even more frustrating is these
communities who say they absolutely will not work with ICE.
I mean, you've got what who is at the mayor
of Boston who is saying, these are my residents, these
are my people. And the fact that you still have
that pushback after even that the congressional address, when he
sat there, when he brought in these people who were
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real American stories and Lincoln Riley's, the Jocelyn nongerrets, those
people's families who lost everything when they lost their children.
They sat there and he said, hey, I'm going to
keep my promise to you. I'm going to make sure
that the people who hurt your children, who took their lives,
are going to pay the price. And yet there are
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still Democrats on the other side who say that they
will not stand for keeping Americans safe. It makes absolutely
no sense to me, But The funny thing is it
makes no sense to the country either. Even if you
take the pole of the country, if you take the
heartbeat and the pulse of the country on this issue,
they will almost ninety percent agree with you. Yeah, we
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don't want criminals in our country that are going to
kill people. And yet the Democrats are still on the
other side. That's the concerning part to me, because you're right,
they always knew that the Biden administration could do it.
They were choosing not to. That's the sick part.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well, it's like, you know, it's pretty obviously you know
why is for power, right, Like they were hoping essentially
import a voting block. And I love how previously it
was like racist to say that, and somehow this was
like a white supremacy talking point. And then we saw
people in inner cities across America and like minority communities
rise up and be like, tell us exactly what was
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happening that that was happening, that you know, services were
being taken away from them, and it just sort of
negated this lie that the media and the left were
telling for for so long. I also, you know, you
mentioned Boston.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
One thing.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
It really annoyed me it was Michelle Wu sort of
invoked Boston's rich history with the American Revolution, like we
stand up to kings and da da da. The whole
point of the American Revolution was that so that we
would be a sovereign nation. You can't have sovereignty, you
can't be a sovereignation without enforcing or border. So it's like,
you know, these people are just outrageous. But you know,
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particularly when you look at some of these issues like
the men and women's sports, like why did they keep digging,
why do they keep tudor why do they keep digging.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Their heels in on just this insanity?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I don't know. Just today, there was a story that
came out someone tried to stop a woman in Michigan
who you may remember her. She was the she has
red hair, She spoke at the DNC. She was she's
a state senator in Michigan, and she got a lot
of attention for that speech at the DNC. And now
she's talking about running for US Senate in the state
of Michigan. And they tried to stop her recently and
(20:29):
ask her, you know, what do you think about men
and women's sports? No response, won't even acknowledge it. I mean,
how can a woman not be willing to turn and
say no, I want to protect other women and it's
not this is this has actually been a topic that
many progressive women have turned against the Democrats on this subject,
and yet a woman who wants to run for US
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Senate won't comment on it.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I just remember, you know, working on Capitol Hill and
campaigns and like all the messaging and normally we're like
even Mitt Romney's I binders full of women, which was
such a strange thing to say in response to the accusation,
but it was like the whole thing was, you know,
Republicans Warren women, Warren women, Warren women, and you know
now Democrats are trying to erase women, and so really yeah,
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so it's like it's just, you know, it's pretty ironic
to you know, look back on all those campaign talking
points from the left and now the Democrat Party is
just insane. We've got to take a quick commercial break
more with Tutor Dixon on the other side. So what
are you going to do, Tutor Dixon, Because there are
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a lot of rumors I'm sure you've seen that you
could be you could be potentially dipping your toe back
in the political waters, maybe for Senate, maybe a gubernatorial
run again.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Race. My friend, Michigan is an interesting state in twenty
because we have an open Senate US Senate race because
Gary Peters retired. We have the open governor's seat. Also
because Gretchen Whitmer is term limited, Praise the Lord. So
we have two opportunities in this state. And I am
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truly blessed by the numbers of people who are supporting me.
And that was something that one of the local news
groups here did a poll on both of those and
numbers came back very strong supporting me for actually both seats.
And that's kind of the calculation now is where could
I best serve the state of Michigan. And that's what
I'm looking at because obviously having run in the governor's
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race four and having come out of a small steel
foundry and knowing what we're up against here in the
state of Michigan, my passion has been for years to
protect the state, bring the state back. We're forty first
in the nation in so many areas. Manufacturing is dwindling
in the state. That's why Donald Trump has been so
helpful with everything that he's doing. And now that he
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is the forty seventh president. We're so proud of what
he's done for the state of Michigan, and so the
question is, like, in what position can I partner with
him best to make sure that the people on the
ground here are getting the best having the best life
that they can have in this state, and that means
allowing them to open their own businesses and reducing regulation
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to do that. That also means making sure that our
schools are being taken care of the right way and
that they are educating kids and the kids have a future.
There is a lot to look at. So I am
very seriously looking at both. I've been talking to folks
in Washington. I've been talking to folks here, and I
don't have a decision yet, but I hope to have
a decision soon.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
What lessons do you think you learned from your previous
run that you would want to apply to either Senate
run or a good matorial.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I think there's so many things that you learn when
you go through that you know, in the first race
is an unknown. You know, I came out and I
had to really fight to get people to know who
I was and who I am and what I wanted
to do for the state, and we were very quickly
once we got into the general defined by a ballot
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initiative on abortion, and I had way too much trust
for the news media and the state of Michigan, and
so I made mistakes there and I learned a lot
from those mistakes. But I think also just mistakes and
how we got our message out. You know, there's there's
been so many advances in technology on how you can
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target your message, how you can make sure people are
hearing it, how you can make sure they're seeing it,
the ways you can deliver it, and that's something that
I know Gretchen Whitmer and her team used very effectively,
and I don't think that we had really discovered that yet.
I think President Trump and his campaign they changed the
way Republicans will campaign, not only from targeted advertising, but
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also how who they talked to. You know, he was
careful about the media. He talked to the right media,
he talked to the podcasters, and he didn't let these
people trap him and put words in his mouth. You know,
that was really I suffered from a lot of allowing
the media to put words in my mouth, and that's
something I've learned, and I think all Republicans should look
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at things that they've done in the past two cycles
and say, Okay, this is what we are up against,
and this is what we have to be prepared to
not engage in fight and define ourselves before they can
define us. Well.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Also, just think as a party, we've learned a lot
of lessons and turn out, you know, and we saw
those lessons applied in the twenty twenty four presidential election
of just like a turnout machine was a lot better
than it's been, you know, turning voters out early in
a way that we didn't you know, in twenty twenty
which really ended up being effective, which I hope we
obviously continue to apply moving forward in elections, particularly since
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all these states are engaging and early voting in ways
that we hadn't prior to you know, twenty twenty four
and prior to twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Right, and embracing that is something that we didn't do
in the past. Embracing that is so key. But it's
not just that you can turn people out in different ways,
it's also who are you turning out? You know, you
need to go to We have people that vote for
Trump that don't vote for other Republicans. But in twenty four,
I think that the GOP and Laura Trump were very
(26:28):
effective going to these communities and making sure that those
people were not just going to come out for the president,
that they were coming out for Republican candidates, they were
coming out for congressional candidates, they were coming out for
Senate candidates. And that's something that we need to look
at twenty four and say, those low propensity voters are
the ones we want to get. We don't want to
have to try to convert people. We want to get
(26:49):
those now. President Trump, I think was also very effective
in converting people, and that was in the new media
that he was using, like your podcast. You know, going
on a podcast like this is a different way of
reaching people, and it allows you to talk in a
longer form so somebody can say, well, you know, what
are you really going to do for the country. And
when you listen to Donald Trump, he's not looking at notes,
(27:12):
he's not giving you a talking point. He's very normal.
He's talking about it because he lives it, he knows it.
It's in his soul, it's in his gut. And I
think that's the benefit that we so many people on
the Republican side have and we're not exploiting that. Like
I get the issues of the state. You know, I've
lived it. I have lived it as a business owner,
I've lived it as a mom with four kids in school.
(27:34):
I've lived it as just a resident of the state.
And I've lived it because I've gone around and talked
to people about their own experiences. And if I can't
sit down for half an hour or three hours on
a podcast and tell you, well, this is how I
really see it, this is what I'd really like to
get in and do, then I don't deserve the job.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I totally agree.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
In the longer form interviews, you get to know someone's
thought process better, and then you also get to know
the person on just a human level as opposed to
just these like little sound bites. You know. Yeah, Tudor,
is there anything else you'd like to leave us with
before we go?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
You know, I think that we should be very open
minded about what we see in Washington right now, because
I think everybody in the States can look at how
Donald Trump has entrusted so much to his cabinet secretaries
and the work that they're doing with the DOGE team
(28:31):
and take that to a state level where a state
like Michigan, for example, we haven't been able to afford
to fix the roads in the state for years now,
I mean decades. Really, it's been a disaster. So how
can we look at what doge is doing and say, okay,
on a statewide level, we should all do This government
has had many, many years, centuries now to become bloated,
(28:56):
and we need to debloat our government across the whether
it's state or whether it's federal. And we can be
grateful every single day that Donald Trump was in there
showing us what to do.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Tutor Dixon, I love you. You're awesome.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I can't wait to cheer you on in whatever decision
you make, and I'm looking forward to finding out.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Well, I'll come back when I decide. Yes.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Also, you know, if.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You were a governor, I'm sure elf with the shelf,
Elf on the shelf at the governor's mansion would be
a lot more interesting for your kids.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
So, yes, that's true. You know my stories about the
elf on the shelf, Yes, very much. Yep, that's my friend,
the elf.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yep, take care of Tutor great. Great to have you
on that was Tutor Dixon. Appreciate her for taking the
time to join the show. Appreciate you guys at home
for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but you can listen
throughout the week until next time.
So I'm excited to have my friend Tutor Dixon on
the show today. She is the host of the Tutor
Dixon Podcast. She previously ran for governor in Michigan, and
she might be running again. We'll get into that, but
I want to know how is Trump doing? You know,
what does she think of the administration so far? Also,
you look at the Tesla firebombings and how unhinged the
(00:23):
left is.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Is this an out liar or just a pattern of
behavior from the left.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Also, want to get her take on these Trump's twenty
five percent auto tariff.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You have groups like UAW love it.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
But then also some of these critics are saying that
car prices could jump anywhere from four thousand to fifteen thousand.
She lives in the state of Michigan. We all know
that Detroit is the auto capital of the world. So
what does she think? Which side is she on or
is it maybe somewhere in the middle. Also, Dems are
looking at a record low twenty seven percent approval rating.
What's next for them? Where does the Democrat Party go
(00:57):
from here? And lastly, as I mentioned before, is she
running again? Her name has been floated for a possible
senatorial run. Also maybe a gub edatorial run as well.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
What is she thinking?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Will she let us know on today's episode, Stay tuned
for my friend Tutor Dixon.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, Tutor Dixon, it's great to have you on my friend.
I've missed you.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Now you're so busy. I watch what you're doing. I'm
so impressed. I see you on Fox and Friends Weekend
and I just love it. Every time you're on. I
love it because I feel like, oh, that's my friend.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well, I love you. We met at a conference and
it was like stepbrothers. Did we just become best friends? Also,
I was just telling Tudor that my morning started off
with me knocking over my Starbucks latte into my makeup
brush bag, so just all my makeup brushes covered in latte.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And then I selfishly thought, I honestly I want to
feel really sad about it, but I selfishly thought, great,
have to really be good on this because she's already
had a bad day and I have to lift her up.
Isn't that I know?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I Well, that's why I said to it, my tutor,
I need you to carry this interview, no pressure, but
all the partimes kidding, well, I'm great to I'm so
glad to have you on. Obviously a lot to discuss,
a lot going onto the country, and also potentially, well
there's always a lot going on with you, but you know,
potentially some big announcements maybe in the future that we'll
get into. But let's start off with just you know,
(02:26):
how you think the past couple months have been going
with the Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
How is he doing so far?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
What's what's sort of your your assessment of you know,
this first period of time.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Well, I of course think he's doing great because I
love what he's doing. But it's not me alone. It
would be one thing if it was just me saying
that in the country was like, oh gosh, this is
a disaster. But you see that his approval ratings are
staying high. The Democrats approval ratings are the lowest they've
ever been, and they're kind of in a meltdown. I
mean they're not even talking policy stuff. They're just out
there swearing and making fun of people. And so I
(02:59):
think that that for us is good. But what Donald
Trump has been doing has been phenomenal when it comes
to just going in there, and no other president has
said I'm going to cut waste, I'm going to do this.
I'm going to do that, and then gotten in there
on day one and been like, Okay, we've got the
people in place to do this. And it's interesting to
me that that's scared people because it's what we all
(03:20):
voted for. But there's this faction of very loud people
who keep saying this is scary, and this is dangerous,
and I think change is scary for people, but this
is necessary to avoid bankruptcy. And that's what I don't
understand why people aren't seeing that what.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I thought that was what was so interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I'm not sure if we're able to watch the Doge
interview with Brett bare on Special Report, but it's like
the media wants everyone to believe that the dose people
are just like eighteen year olds playing call of duty
in their parents' basement, when in reality, it's like, you know,
the Airbnb founder and CEOs and CFOs and you know
(03:56):
people who left jobs who don't need to be doing this,
who just want government to be more efficient, to work
better on behalf of the American people, and who realize
that if we don't cut spending now, you know, we'll
end up in financial ruin as a country.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So I found it so interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
You make such a great point because I looked at
those folks that are out there that are in those positions,
and I thought, I'm watching these people come out and say,
you know, I don't have to be doing this, but
I want to do it for the country. And I think, gosh,
the number of times I see comments on social media
and I'm sure this will resonate with people out there
that say, why don't we have executives step out of
(04:32):
their position and run for office? And I think because
it is such a toxic thing for people to step
out of their careers and take that risk in the
middle of their life to say, gosh, I'm going to
put my reputation in the line. Because you only have
your reputation. So if you put your reputation on the
line and you lose, then you can destroy your life.
(04:54):
It's very interesting to me these guys. They're like, yeah,
I don't have to be elected and I can serve,
and they're willing to do it, willing to put their
life on hold to serve. And I find it fascinating
that the media has tried to paint them as a
bunch of silly nineteen year olds that don't know what
they're doing, because it has really protected these people who
are very smart executives to be able to come in.
(05:17):
They haven't had to go through the scrutiny that a
candidate does, but they have the credentials based on what
they've been able to do in their life. I mean,
it really is a unique situation that we have going
on right now with some great Americans willing to give
up their time to do it. And I was glad
it was highlighted with Brett, but I also think it's
good to have these people protected as well. You know,
(05:40):
these Democrat crazy people that have been or just you know,
these folks that are like far leftists that have been
inside the government determining where money goes and how to
almost launder money. Nobody knows who they are. Why should
these guys have to go out there and be scrutinized
when they have the credit to go in there and
(06:01):
say we're not we're not taking money for ourselves, we're
getting rid of spending.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Well, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And I think that's also why you know they've gone
after Elon so much and why they've just been so
malicious towards him as well, is because they want to
keep people like him outside of politics, you know, they
want to keep effective people outside of politics. They want
business people to be like, you know what, I don't know.
I don't want that, Like, you know, I don't want
to put myself in that position.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So do you do you think that's why they're they're you.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Know, kind of being so malicious.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
But I also I think that it's also because there
is such a large brand that comes along with him,
and they can activate their base. But look at how
what happens when they activate their base. And I really
believe that this is backfiring on them because we've seen
all these videos of people going and keen teslas and
doing other things that are just horrible to individual people's cars.
(06:55):
And the funny thing is these are leftists for the
most part, the people that buy the Tesla's, you know,
these they are generally not the far right conservatives that
you think you're going after. These are people who are
typically left of center who have bought a Tesla and
they're Tesla owners. And you see that they've even called
for people to go out and go to these Tesla
(07:15):
dealerships and continue to attack. You've seen the calls for
violence from the left when we were mad about some
of the things that the left was doing when we
weren't in power. It wasn't that it was like, hey,
don't buy bud Light. Hey you know what, let's boycott
Target for a few months and see if they will
change and see if they will listen to their consumers.
(07:37):
That was so much more effective than what I see
on the left. But it scares me that they think
violence is the answer.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But you know, it's been the answer for them though,
you know, I mean, there's been a long list of
things that you know, like you look at the twenty
sixteen congressional shooting. You look at Lee Zelden almost getting
stabbed on the goobernatorial trail in New York. Trump almost
assassinated Toy just as Kavanaugh, someone showed up outside is
his house, you know, wanting to kill him. You look
(08:05):
at the fire bombing of pregnancy centers, or even when
President Trump was inaugurated in twenty seventeen, you know, there
are fire the limit was set on fire. There was
so much just right like the you know, the Summer
of love, right, the summer of riots.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's like these you know, I talk about militant.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
You know, now, you make such a good point, because
when you lift that list right one after another, it
is shocking and it's something that we I think, have
given grace to and forgotten and passed on. And it's
something that we shouldn't. I mean, you should be going
through that list on a daily basis so people have
to remember this. And I talk about the Summer of Love.
(08:42):
People died in that Chad zone or the Chad Zone,
whatever they the multiple names that they had for it.
But young people we're talking about, well, I think the
one kid was sixteen or seventeen, the other kid was nineteen.
These are young people that died in these zones. And
we never talk about the fact that this violence led
to a loss of life. But you look at what
(09:03):
happened in Minneapolis and these attempted attacks on conservative politicians.
I mean, you mentioned Donald Trump, but you know, I'd
even forgotten about Leezelden. And it is very unappealing to
run for office when you know that there are people
out there who don't just disagree with what you believe
is right. They want you dead, I mean, and they
(09:25):
don't even hide it. I've seen these people. I saw
a woman interviewed the other day who said that she
absolutely still wants that to happen to Donald Trump, and
openly she has a mask on, you know' she's a coward.
She's not going to say it out in the public.
She has a mask on. It's illegal. She's calling for
someone's murder. It's illegal. But they don't even care.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So I guess where did the Democrats go from here?
Because we've all seen the approval ratings, you know, twenty
seven percent for an NBC poll. It's the lowest they've
ever registered, going back to nineteen ninety for that poll.
So where where does the party or the Democrat Party
go from here?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Look, that's how I feel until I see things like
the special election in Florida where it's like, oh gosh,
it's really close in a red state of Florida where
we had a really safe seat where Mike Walls was
and now it could potentially turn blue. And I think, Okay,
here we are as Republicans. You cannot get comfortable. Just that,
(10:26):
I think is the message. Don't look at this and say, man,
they're so radical, no one's ever going to come back
to them, because they are very creative when it comes
to messaging, and when they are looking at specific races
that they want to win to take power back, they're
strategic about it. So where does the party go? I
think the party will target people very specifically coming up
(10:50):
in the midterm elections. And my fear is that if
we are not on top of that messaging and if
we are not letting people know, like even the list
you just went through. That's why I said, man, it's
so important that people remember this because if we are
not on top of it, the party will take back
their power, and then who knows where they'll go because
they are split. They have this radical new system of
(11:14):
going out on the Internet and all posting the same things,
filled with curse words and very negative messaging. And yet
somehow they are saying, oh, Jasmine Crockett's like the new
face of the party, and AOC is the new face
of the party. But they're pushing p I mean they've
pushed out Joe Biden. Nancy Pelosi pushed out Joe Biden.
She was trying so long, remember to keep the party
(11:36):
together as what she thought the Democrats were, and you know,
keeping AOC in line. Now she's she didn't have a
generation between she and AOC to rely on for some reason,
because she held onto power for so long, she was
never willing to give up the rings. So this is
her own fault because she was never willing to train
someone up behind her. She left this massive generational block
(11:57):
between she and AOC. She's gone now. Now they're pushing
Chuck Schumer out of the way. The party is going
to shift to AOC's generation, and she right now looks
like the leader. So what happens to the party unless
somebody can strategically come in and say, man, there's going
to be some folks in their forties and fifties that
are going to get this back on track, they go
(12:18):
full socialist and I don't think they can get back
the majority at that point.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
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three two five. So I wanted to ask you, obviously,
(13:30):
you know Michigan, Detroit car capital. So President Trump briefly
announced that he would impose a twenty five percent tariff
on foreign automobiles imported into the United States.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
We've seen the move supported.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
By you know, the United Auto or auto workers saying
it's a victory for autoworkers. However, you know, critics are
saying that it's going to increase prices for consumers potentially
anywhere from four thousand to fifteen thousand per vehicle depending
on how much of the cars imported. What do you think,
(14:03):
you know, which side of that are you on or
are you stored in between things, or what do you make.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I'm absolutely opposed to I'm absolutely opposed to us allowing
foreign car companies to bring cars into the United States
with no repercussions whatsoever, because you know, I want to
support our American car makers, but I also look at
I mean, we can never let Chinese vehicles get into
the American market, and that's something that I think Donald
Trump has been intentional about protecting US. If you look
(14:30):
at Germany, they allowed all the electric vehicles to come
in from China. They just closed down three Volkswagen plants
in Germany because they can't compete with these Chinese vehicles.
We don't want our manufacturers to close down. We certainly
don't want the national security implications of having our transportation
rely that we have to rely on a foreign country,
(14:52):
certainly not a foreign country like China. So it's very
important what he's doing, and he does it strategically. And
I know there's been some conversation about, well, some of
these parts will go back and forth across the border
in Canada, and Mexico multiple times. Donald Trump, as you've seen,
has not done made radical moves that he cannot negotiate
(15:15):
into different areas to make sure the Americans are getting
the best possible deal, but also making sure America first
is top of mind for everybody and continues to be pushed.
So if you've watched what he's done with Mexico and Canada,
you know he's he's said, Okay, this is when I'm
putting the tariff in. There have been negotiations. Sometimes the
(15:36):
tariff gets delayed, sometimes the tariff gets changed. He is
a man with leverage. He knows the United States has
the most leverage in the world. He is a master negotiator.
For anybody who thinks that Donald Trump is going to
just crash the economy because he's going to put tariffs
in that are to protect American manufacturers and bring manufacturing back,
(15:58):
they have no idea what it is to negotiate, and
I think they I think they don't because I think
they're so used to some of these legislators that come
in and they get elected based on being loud and
being popular and being great with young kids, but not
based on experience. Just like we were talking about those
doge guys earlier that have the experience of being executives.
It's not what you see from a lot of the
(16:20):
people who are critiquing Donald Trump. But he does have
that that ability to understand your leverage and negotiate will
keep American manufacturing safe and grow it in the future.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
We're also used to having a coma tost president, and
so I think it's like it's a it's a shock
to the system to go from having a president who
the Special Council said was basically not fit to stand
trial but was okay being president but couldn't run for
reelection but stayed in power, to now having a president
who doesn't sleep and is working seven days a week,
(16:54):
and you know, like it's it's like a I think
people it's like whiplash, right, Like it's like going from
one extreme to the other. Thing. I think one thing
that's obviously great for the country but also infuriating is
to see that, you know, we were told time and
time again that all like the border crisis can't be
solved by executive order.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
It's a congressional thing.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We need by you know, all these excuses, and you know, meanwhile,
allowing you know, millions and millions of illegal aliens to
come to the United States, and then in like a
month President Trump already solved the border crisis. And you know,
now we're seeing border crossings at the lowest level in decades.
So it's like you could have done it along, yet
(17:36):
you chose not to.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Well, what I think is even more frustrating is these
communities who say they absolutely will not work with ICE.
I mean, you've got what who is at the mayor
of Boston who is saying, these are my residents, these
are my people. And the fact that you still have
that pushback after even that the congressional address, when he
sat there, when he brought in these people who were
(17:58):
real American stories and Lincoln Riley's, the Jocelyn nongerrets, those
people's families who lost everything when they lost their children.
They sat there and he said, hey, I'm going to
keep my promise to you. I'm going to make sure
that the people who hurt your children, who took their lives,
are going to pay the price. And yet there are
(18:19):
still Democrats on the other side who say that they
will not stand for keeping Americans safe. It makes absolutely
no sense to me, But The funny thing is it
makes no sense to the country either. Even if you
take the pole of the country, if you take the
heartbeat and the pulse of the country on this issue,
they will almost ninety percent agree with you. Yeah, we
(18:42):
don't want criminals in our country that are going to
kill people. And yet the Democrats are still on the
other side. That's the concerning part to me, because you're right,
they always knew that the Biden administration could do it.
They were choosing not to. That's the sick part.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well, it's like, you know, it's pretty obviously you know
why is for power, right, Like they were hoping essentially
import a voting block. And I love how previously it
was like racist to say that, and somehow this was
like a white supremacy talking point. And then we saw
people in inner cities across America and like minority communities
rise up and be like, tell us exactly what was
(19:20):
happening that that was happening, that you know, services were
being taken away from them, and it just sort of
negated this lie that the media and the left were
telling for for so long. I also, you know, you
mentioned Boston.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
One thing.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
It really annoyed me it was Michelle Wu sort of
invoked Boston's rich history with the American Revolution, like we
stand up to kings and da da da. The whole
point of the American Revolution was that so that we
would be a sovereign nation. You can't have sovereignty, you
can't be a sovereignation without enforcing or border. So it's like,
you know, these people are just outrageous. But you know,
(19:56):
particularly when you look at some of these issues like
the men and women's sports, like why did they keep digging,
why do they keep tudor why do they keep digging.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Their heels in on just this insanity?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I don't know. Just today, there was a story that
came out someone tried to stop a woman in Michigan
who you may remember her. She was the she has
red hair, She spoke at the DNC. She was she's
a state senator in Michigan, and she got a lot
of attention for that speech at the DNC. And now
she's talking about running for US Senate in the state
of Michigan. And they tried to stop her recently and
(20:29):
ask her, you know, what do you think about men
and women's sports? No response, won't even acknowledge it. I mean,
how can a woman not be willing to turn and
say no, I want to protect other women and it's
not this is this has actually been a topic that
many progressive women have turned against the Democrats on this subject,
and yet a woman who wants to run for US
(20:51):
Senate won't comment on it.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I just remember, you know, working on Capitol Hill and
campaigns and like all the messaging and normally we're like
even Mitt Romney's I binders full of women, which was
such a strange thing to say in response to the accusation,
but it was like the whole thing was, you know,
Republicans Warren women, Warren women, Warren women, and you know
now Democrats are trying to erase women, and so really yeah,
(21:17):
so it's like it's just, you know, it's pretty ironic
to you know, look back on all those campaign talking
points from the left and now the Democrat Party is
just insane. We've got to take a quick commercial break
more with Tutor Dixon on the other side. So what
are you going to do, Tutor Dixon, Because there are
(21:39):
a lot of rumors I'm sure you've seen that you
could be you could be potentially dipping your toe back
in the political waters, maybe for Senate, maybe a gubernatorial
run again.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Race. My friend, Michigan is an interesting state in twenty
because we have an open Senate US Senate race because
Gary Peters retired. We have the open governor's seat. Also
because Gretchen Whitmer is term limited, Praise the Lord. So
we have two opportunities in this state. And I am
(22:17):
truly blessed by the numbers of people who are supporting me.
And that was something that one of the local news
groups here did a poll on both of those and
numbers came back very strong supporting me for actually both seats.
And that's kind of the calculation now is where could
I best serve the state of Michigan. And that's what
I'm looking at because obviously having run in the governor's
(22:40):
race four and having come out of a small steel
foundry and knowing what we're up against here in the
state of Michigan, my passion has been for years to
protect the state, bring the state back. We're forty first
in the nation in so many areas. Manufacturing is dwindling
in the state. That's why Donald Trump has been so
helpful with everything that he's doing. And now that he
(23:03):
is the forty seventh president. We're so proud of what
he's done for the state of Michigan, and so the
question is, like, in what position can I partner with
him best to make sure that the people on the
ground here are getting the best having the best life
that they can have in this state, and that means
allowing them to open their own businesses and reducing regulation
(23:24):
to do that. That also means making sure that our
schools are being taken care of the right way and
that they are educating kids and the kids have a future.
There is a lot to look at. So I am
very seriously looking at both. I've been talking to folks
in Washington. I've been talking to folks here, and I
don't have a decision yet, but I hope to have
a decision soon.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
What lessons do you think you learned from your previous
run that you would want to apply to either Senate
run or a good matorial.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I think there's so many things that you learn when
you go through that you know, in the first race
is an unknown. You know, I came out and I
had to really fight to get people to know who
I was and who I am and what I wanted
to do for the state, and we were very quickly
once we got into the general defined by a ballot
(24:15):
initiative on abortion, and I had way too much trust
for the news media and the state of Michigan, and
so I made mistakes there and I learned a lot
from those mistakes. But I think also just mistakes and
how we got our message out. You know, there's there's
been so many advances in technology on how you can
(24:37):
target your message, how you can make sure people are
hearing it, how you can make sure they're seeing it,
the ways you can deliver it, and that's something that
I know Gretchen Whitmer and her team used very effectively,
and I don't think that we had really discovered that yet.
I think President Trump and his campaign they changed the
way Republicans will campaign, not only from targeted advertising, but
(24:59):
also how who they talked to. You know, he was
careful about the media. He talked to the right media,
he talked to the podcasters, and he didn't let these
people trap him and put words in his mouth. You know,
that was really I suffered from a lot of allowing
the media to put words in my mouth, and that's
something I've learned, and I think all Republicans should look
(25:21):
at things that they've done in the past two cycles
and say, Okay, this is what we are up against,
and this is what we have to be prepared to
not engage in fight and define ourselves before they can
define us. Well.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Also, just think as a party, we've learned a lot
of lessons and turn out, you know, and we saw
those lessons applied in the twenty twenty four presidential election
of just like a turnout machine was a lot better
than it's been, you know, turning voters out early in
a way that we didn't you know, in twenty twenty
which really ended up being effective, which I hope we
obviously continue to apply moving forward in elections, particularly since
(26:00):
all these states are engaging and early voting in ways
that we hadn't prior to you know, twenty twenty four
and prior to twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Right, and embracing that is something that we didn't do
in the past. Embracing that is so key. But it's
not just that you can turn people out in different ways,
it's also who are you turning out? You know, you
need to go to We have people that vote for
Trump that don't vote for other Republicans. But in twenty four,
I think that the GOP and Laura Trump were very
(26:28):
effective going to these communities and making sure that those
people were not just going to come out for the president,
that they were coming out for Republican candidates, they were
coming out for congressional candidates, they were coming out for
Senate candidates. And that's something that we need to look
at twenty four and say, those low propensity voters are
the ones we want to get. We don't want to
have to try to convert people. We want to get
(26:49):
those now. President Trump, I think was also very effective
in converting people, and that was in the new media
that he was using, like your podcast. You know, going
on a podcast like this is a different way of
reaching people, and it allows you to talk in a
longer form so somebody can say, well, you know, what
are you really going to do for the country. And
when you listen to Donald Trump, he's not looking at notes,
(27:12):
he's not giving you a talking point. He's very normal.
He's talking about it because he lives it, he knows it.
It's in his soul, it's in his gut. And I
think that's the benefit that we so many people on
the Republican side have and we're not exploiting that. Like
I get the issues of the state. You know, I've
lived it. I have lived it as a business owner,
I've lived it as a mom with four kids in school.
(27:34):
I've lived it as just a resident of the state.
And I've lived it because I've gone around and talked
to people about their own experiences. And if I can't
sit down for half an hour or three hours on
a podcast and tell you, well, this is how I
really see it, this is what I'd really like to
get in and do, then I don't deserve the job.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I totally agree.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
In the longer form interviews, you get to know someone's
thought process better, and then you also get to know
the person on just a human level as opposed to
just these like little sound bites. You know. Yeah, Tudor,
is there anything else you'd like to leave us with
before we go?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
You know, I think that we should be very open
minded about what we see in Washington right now, because
I think everybody in the States can look at how
Donald Trump has entrusted so much to his cabinet secretaries
and the work that they're doing with the DOGE team
(28:31):
and take that to a state level where a state
like Michigan, for example, we haven't been able to afford
to fix the roads in the state for years now,
I mean decades. Really, it's been a disaster. So how
can we look at what doge is doing and say, okay,
on a statewide level, we should all do This government
has had many, many years, centuries now to become bloated,
(28:56):
and we need to debloat our government across the whether
it's state or whether it's federal. And we can be
grateful every single day that Donald Trump was in there
showing us what to do.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Tutor Dixon, I love you. You're awesome.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I can't wait to cheer you on in whatever decision
you make, and I'm looking forward to finding out.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Well, I'll come back when I decide. Yes.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Also, you know, if.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You were a governor, I'm sure elf with the shelf,
Elf on the shelf at the governor's mansion would be
a lot more interesting for your kids.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
So, yes, that's true. You know my stories about the
elf on the shelf, Yes, very much. Yep, that's my friend,
the elf.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yep, take care of Tutor great. Great to have you
on that was Tutor Dixon. Appreciate her for taking the
time to join the show. Appreciate you guys at home
for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but you can listen
throughout the week until next time.
Host
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