October 18, 2023 • 26 mins
From founding one of the worlds most successful rock bands at only 15 years old to becoming a sought after producer in Nashville by the age of 21, Lincoln Parish has a truly unique existence and perspective. Tune in for a candid chat about forming Cage The Elephant, AI’s production capabilities, loss and mental health.
Be sure to listen to the end for a cliff hanger story about a member of cage the elephant at the Bowery Hotel in New York City that I probably should have cut.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Beyond megable.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
From finding one of the world's most successful rock bands
at only fifteen years old to becoming a sought after
producer in Nashville by the age of twenty one, Lincoln
Parish has a truly unique existence and perspective. Tune in
for a candid chat about forming Kids the Elephant, AI's
(00:23):
production capabilities, loss and mental health. Oh and be sure
to listen to the end for a Cliff Huger story
about a member of Kids the Elephant at the Bowery
Hotel in New York City that I probably should have cut.
I'm your host, Jimmy Bryn. You're listening to the unimaginable.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I guess my earliest memory of guitar was whenever I
was like five years old and my grandmother was like
the church and pianists like organists in the church and
played every Sunday, and somebody got me like a toy
guitar for Christmas, and I just like I didn't know
any chords. I would just like get up and like
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fake strum in front of like the congregation or crowd
or whatever. And so that's probably my earliest I was
always like drawn to guitar, and then like my parents.
I remember they tried to get me lessons when I
was like six, and it was like this older lady
who taught like class school, and I think I took
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her for about six months and it was just I.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Was too young, and then kind of gave it up.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
A couple of years later, same thing again, took from
this other guy and he was like classical trained kind
of style.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And same kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I played for like six seven months and then like
got bored with it and it kind of just like
quit practicing. And then when I was like twelve, I
was going through like my parents' addict, and like I
found one of the guitars, like a pew of the
stringsken off of it, and I just like I was
just kind of playing around with it and like kind
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of tuned like one string to like some sort of note.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I'm sure it wasn't really in tune to anything, but
and then I just kind of was coming up with
melodies on this one string. I was either eleven about
turn twelve or twelve out to turn thirteen, not really
totally sure. I think twelve about thirteen. So I go
to my parents and I'm like, can I take lessons again.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And they're like.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
All right, this time you either got to like stick
with it or like this is it, you know. And
they found this guy at like the local music store
who is like he taught like he's kind of more
of like a rock came from like a blues background,
and he was like not classical at all. So me
and him just hit it off like immediately, Like I mean,
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he's honestly at one point became like a second father figure,
you know. And and I would always say, is like
taught me the things that like because my dad was
like a doctor, So like maybe my dad's great, but
like there was certain like life experiences that like Bobby,
my guitar teacher, had that like you know, my dad
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could have never you know what I mean taught me
because he just had a different upbringing and life experience,
you know. So that yeah, that's kind of like when
I really like fell in love with like guitar, and
I was like all right, this is it. Only took
from him for like two and a half years and
then uh, that's when the band kind of started. I
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was fifteen. My mom had to like drop me off
at like my audition. If you wanna call it that
or whatever it was. But yeah, I had had a
couple of different like garage bands with like kids I
went to school with, and then they all like kind
of broke up around the same time. And then like
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the couple of the dudes from Cage had another band
called Perfect Confusion. That band broke up, so they were
in between bands. I was in between bands, and they
we happened running into each other one night at a
Buffalo Wild Wings. I was there with my sister and
her fiance at the time, now my brother in law,
and I just kept hearing my name over my shoulder
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and it turned out it was Jared the drummer, and
they just had some guy come in from like Indiana,
and I guess it just wasn't like a good fit
or whatever. And so yeah, they were like, do you
want to come jam with this on Wednesday?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And so yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Then I had to go home and like ask my parents.
My mom she had to take me because they didn't
have my license yet. I think I had my permit,
but she takes me and like I'm getting my like
amp and whenever we pull in the driveway, because they
rehearsed at Jared's parents' basement. So I were pulling in
Jared's dad's in the driveway and like he's out there
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like smoking a cigarette, and my mom's like, I'm getting
myst I found the car and I was like, oh,
y'all are gonna love him all this stuff, and then
like shut up, mom.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You know it was embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
But so I was the first one there besides Jared,
but he was still asleep. It's like four in the afternoon,
he's like still sleeping. And then uh so I go
down and like Bill showed me where his uh like where.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
The jam room was in the basement.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I just kind of like set my amp up down
there and like waited for like everybody to come in.
And we wrote like three songs at first night together
that ended up making it on the first record, a
song called Soul to the Sun, Drones in the Valley,
and another song called Judas. So yeah, all in that
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same night we wrote those three songs, and then we
were a couple of the dudes were friends with some
of the guys in Nappy Roots it's like rap group,
which is also from.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Balling Green, and they were gonna let us come up
to Louisville.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Kentucky and do some demos for free, like do like
a weekend kind of thing. So we went up that
weekend and like cut demos. It was after we did
the demos that they were like, Okay, do you want
to be in the band?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And I was like, I got to ask my parents,
but yes.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So we made the first album in the fall of
two thousand and five, and then I don't even think
it came out in the UK until like sometime in
two thousand and seven, and then not even out in
the US until like two thousand and eight or nine.
Even the first album was like four or five years
old to us by the time it really like kind
of took off. But yeah, we made the album first.
Before we kind of really did a lot of like touring.
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We'd play like, you know, a bar in Louisville or
a bar in Knoxville or little places like you know,
like ones that we could book and just email them
ourselves and boocket. But then this guy that we were
working with, it was like a developmental kind of guy,
you know, record A and R kind of dude, but
not associated with a label at the time. We so
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we met with him and you know, it was like
he was like all right, like let's do this, but
we didn't have any money, so it was like we
had to do it in like ten days and just
kind of got in did it really quick, and yeah,
that was that, and then we did South then like
the next thing I remember kind of being the next
big thing. It was like we went to South of
Southwest that next following spring, and then two albums later
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actually in twenty thirteen. Uh, because that album, Melophobia came
out I think like November that year, October that year,
and I left the band in November that year after
right after it came out, and you know, I just
I had started producing other bands or out. You know,
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I was more so just friends when I was like eighteen,
because I was we'd come on off the road and
I just wanted to do something different that was just
not what we were, you know, being in a band,
like that's great and all, but like you play the
same set every night pretty much, and it's the same
songs and you're kind of always living in the same wheelhouse.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Being in a bond obviously, it is very difficult, uh,
you know, to be with to see the people on
the road all day, every day, all every night, every
green Room, every stitche every it's the same song.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Every night, being married to five different women.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, I would always say, yeah, I think I think
that's gonna be that's going to take a toll on
on anyone. And I also think your timing seemed to
be quite good. Like you get out at the top,
you know, but.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
They say, by love so high.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
But but then and then to turn it turn to
turn into like having a career and being a producer
and moving to Nashville and being so young. I just
I kind of find it remarkable, like I don't know
of any other producer or that I know all of that,
like hot, such a successful career about the age of
like nineteen or something, you know, and I had been
on the road for years at that point, and then
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all of a sudden, I have their own studio on
Nashville and the recording friends bonds and building up essentially
like you know, the next avatar of you or the
next chapter of your life. I guess you've been doing,
not know, I for like probably what's ten years or
I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
It'll be ten years since I left the band this November.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, right, so ten years it's a lottle time.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Ten years full time and if you really count, since
I eighteen, so an extra five years on top of that,
it's like fifteen years almost of like starting to like
produce and like do other co writing outside of the band.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, what was Nashville like then versus not? You know, like,
what's the vibe like here?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
And compared to me night and day? I would say,
I guess if you were to compare it like just this,
it's grown so much, and like I think.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's great because it brings a lot more diversity to
the city and I feel like it lost some of
its like neighborhood feel.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
But like so basically it's become a big stinking city.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I don't know. I think it's a little friendlier than that.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Still, but like I always love coming here, like I
haven't been here in years.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Still friendlier than that to me.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
But you know, the thing about here is like I
feel like people will be nice to your face and
stab you in the back where it's like in like
New York and l A and London places like that,
they'll just like like yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You know, like the justs they missed out the nice part.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, like and like I kind of appreciate that though,
it's like get to the point and like, don't fake
it if you're not into it, you know, like I'd rather.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Just somebody tell me you don't like it. If you
don't like it.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Well, like like, well that's like something that you're working on,
or just in general.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, well, I mean just in general, but like people
I think can try to be a little too nice here,
and it's like you could just save a lot of
time if you just got to the point.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, set it out really was.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, that reminds me of your your childhood. And if
you're like I want to go to school between like
eight and ten, I can get it all done by then,
you know, yeah, I don't. I don't want to sit
here and spend a whole day school working on something
that I can do in two hours. And you know
that's the point.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, But as the as the.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Like, but in terms of like songwriters coming through time
and like you know, obviously Nashville was like a mecca
for like country music, and then it developed into like
pop music, and there's like there's a crossover both of
those things happen at the same time.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Like I feel like everybody's here.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Now there's people that I didn't even I feel like
every week I hear about somebody that lives here that
I didn't know lives here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, you know, I feel like a lot of you know, there's.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
A lot more like writers or like Bonds or.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, both like pop rock.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You know, even if they're not here full time, they're
here splitting time, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
You know, but it's definitely like I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I hardly I don't think I can't really name one
country thing that I've done in the last like two years.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You know. Yeah, it's changed a lot. You know.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
You could also like back in the day, like when
I first started doing co writes around town, like it
was pretty normal to like send in like a cell
phone like work tape was what we called them, you know,
like usually like a guitar and a vocal, or a
piano and a vocal. But now it's like if you
don't send in like a completely like finished mixed track
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the stems, yeah yeah, yeah, basically with all the deliverables
and everything, then you know, nobody, your publisher is going
to look at it. Like if I send in a
cell phone work tape. Now, I'm sure they'd be like,
what is this open?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, what do you what are you doing? Lincoln?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah? No, I think whenever I was here in Nashville
and writing songs and even writing songs with you, I
just like I remember, you know, Noshville just being like
it felt like it felt like a really fun and
energetic space to being as a creator, and like I
felt like there was still like hype wrong the music
industry and it was like, you know, there was stuff
hopping and deals getting mid and ever since I've been
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in LA and New York and I'm back here, it
feels like maybe it's because of COVID or I'm not
sure exactly what it is, but it feels like everybody's
kind of slow down on the deal making stuff, or
maybe it's because of infliction.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
You know, I think a little bit of all of it.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I mean, the whole thing is completely different now. I
mean even from like you know, I'm interested to see
where producers go in the next five to ten years,
because I mean, I think there's always going to.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Be a need for producers work on they go.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I'm just saying like with the like, because you know,
everybody's making stuff at home and like in the bedroom
and like you know.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
And they're making stuff sound good.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, and it's like you don't really need that much
anymore to make good sound and stuff. It's like almost
more beneficial for them to go find like a good mixer. Yeah,
you know, like they can kind of create it and
produce it out themselves and they like you know, so,
I mean I do a ton of mixing now too,
because I mean I'm always going to produce, but even
thinking ahead of like if it goes more that way,
then like I'm ready to go. Somebody was telling me
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that they went to some AI thing at a conference
panel and like they had it to where I guess
it was gonna be able to like study, Like it
would be basically be able to record and look at
my session and like how I work.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
And like like on the screen it would like.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Record, like would kind of monitor how I do everything
and like say like how I usually would like eque
the electric guitar or like things I would put like
plug in wise and guitar, or like if I put
a like typically run a bunch of reverbs or something
or whatever, we would like remember all this and like
it would take like a few sessions to do it,
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but then it would be able to like AI produce
for said person.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Right, it's cool and it's creepy at the same time.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
What's gonna hop them? Whenever AI figures out how to
fix itself, you know it's going to be it's all
over it point.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
But I think there wasn't there like an AI rapper
who was signed and then he already got dropped.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Oh really, I know because I was.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I think he like he said something that was like
not PC or.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Was it him or the AI that said it was
like the AI, but like he like did it and
then I got dropped.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So it's like it's already been a thing where like capital.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Or really Yeah, so the A I got consoled.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Not even getting I wish I was making us.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
You know. I kept thinking about like an AI recordable,
where you've got these two engines, right, you got the
music AI guys, and you got the you know on
the lyric A I want would have picked them together
and they put what you got a song?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Like AI?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Like yeah, then that keeps telling them it's not good enough.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
He's just like tell it's just to get stuck on
the loop. You're not good enough. You're not good enough.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
You need find a new mix on this one.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Can you do that one again, Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I think the inn should be shorter.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Can you work on those lyrics?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Mh, this will be good for sync.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
There's a lot of similarities between ourselves in in the
in the mental health department where there's you know, I've
had a little moments or or or large moments or
long length of time you know, like years where you
know it struggled a lot with stuff and I.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Know I had a bad day that lasted a couple
of years.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I think, you know, being part of the music business too,
is like it kind of goes hand in hand, like
you know, life on the road and like you know
all that goes along with that, and you know, and
then coming back to normality.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Maybe for you you don't know what is normal.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It took me like when I first got off the
road and it was just your Nashville at home, do
you know, producing and do the writing thing, you know,
to me a while to like like you know, figure
out like, oh it's not nobody else is having a
drink at ten a m. Yeah, I'm only one here,
Like doing this, Okay, cool, all right, and then you
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start to you know, see which way that can take
you really quick. But yeah, man, you know, I don't
ever try to shy away or behind it. You know.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
It is what it is. Like, we're all, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Human, and everybody is going through something I think more
than what we even know.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
You know. It's like, yeah, I mean sometimes it doesn't
even take.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
That much for me, you know, I yeah, no idea,
but it could be like sometimes it can be a
build up of a lot of different ship that you know,
finally over overflows the cup and then you're like the
littlest thing can set you off. But yeah, I mean,
you know, definitely was like especially for me since like
I basically like left home it was like fifteen on
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the road and like, you know, seeing all this crazy
stuff and doing a bunch of crazy stuff and everything
that comes with it. And then like you leave that
when you're like basically just turning twenty four and kind
of stepping into reality, you're like, you know what, your
reality isn't really yeah exactly, My reality has never really
(18:28):
been reality, you know what I mean. So it was, Yeah,
it was a little bit of a wake up call.
In the best way possible.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, but uh yeah, and it's you know, it's still
something that I struggle with, you know, from time to time. Yeah,
I'm not trying to act.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Like everything's like yeah, no, no, sunshine and roses every
day now still, but it's a lot better than it
used to be.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, that's good. Yeah. No. I went to I went
to some new kind of therapist that practices this thing
called neural feedback. Have you have you heard about that? Is?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I mean, is it similar to like em D R H.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It's kind of like that. It's kind of like the
next level for me of em DR, because em DR
is more focused on kind of like getting your memories
into a certain order in your brand so that you're
not like, yes, you're not always like like seeing through
a certain lens and like being triggered by everything because
you know that something's right in the front of your
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your mind the whole time, you know, something that was difficult.
But with this your feedback stuff, it's like they they
kind of put these electromagnets on magnets on your brain
and they measure a frequency for whatever symptlement is that
you're saying that you have. So I went instead I
have anxiety, And so they know that your brain puts
out some kind of signal or frequency, it's like an
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actual frequency that we just can't hear, and they measure that.
And then what they do is they they put some
headphones on you and you watch a Netflix show, but
there they have this technology built that they overlap on
top of the Netflix screen and it will like change
the audio. So like say if a door slammed and
on the show, you wouldn't really hear it. But because
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you know they're trying to trigger your anxiety, they make
the door slam like super lied, or they make this
somebody's voice like just go something. You start to freak out,
you know, and then your anxiety starts to like get triggered.
And they measure all that and so they get then
they hone in on what the actual frequency is of
yours and then they tune it out of your brain.
And so you do it, like, you know, twenty times
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that is what they recommend to do it. I'm like,
I did it myself and I'm just like floored by
it because it worked. Like it took me from like
a nine to zero. Wow in anxiety neuro feedback, Yeah,
so it's like, yeah, look it up. It's like that's
something I've done recently.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
That's super. I've been wanting to like try to like
the Ketamen treatments, you.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Know, for you know, just some like long last anxiety,
baseline anxiety kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, or I think just for whatever reason and just
always yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, yeah, No, I think it's a good It's I
think it's like probably just years and years and years
and years of like like abuse. He didn't know, but
it's like, but it's so hard to kind of get
through that. And I think so many people feel the
same way, you know, and like it's like and I'm
always I've tried every kind of different method that comes
out or that somebody tells me about it. I'm always
like I'll let me, I'll get the opera, I'll listen
(21:18):
to the thing and whatever it is. But yeah, just
interested to hear your experience all that.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
But like, yeah, I mean I was talking to a
therapist one time, you know, and I've lost so many
friends like drugs and different things like that, and he
was like, you've had as many people die in your
life that you were close to as like some soldiers
that have like like, you know, I can't say that,
(21:43):
like my experiences are anywhere near what those guys are,
you know, Yeah, but I think you know, you know,
he was like this, the amount of loss that you've
experienced in your thirty three years of being alive.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
You know, it's like as much as some like people
that come back from war.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, yeah, no, I like agree, and you know, it's
you know, it's hard. It's even some of these people,
like say Taylor Hawkins for example, Like you know, we
toured with the Food Fighters for you know, a couple
of months and ye did shows with them and did
tour with them in South America, and we're constantly doing
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radio festivals with them, So we were always around those
guys a lot. And like, you know, I'm not saying
like I was best friends with Taylor by any means,
but like when you're around somebody every day, yeah, even
just like kind of on a tour like that, and
you've like had dinner with them and you know, and
then something like that happens, it's like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Well, something I think whenever you go through loss, like
the word itself kind of tells the whole story that
you have lost something like that and whether it's like
somebody that you knew really well or not or what
and even going back to what you're talking about with
PTSD and soldiers and so on, Like, I think one
thing I'm learning is that each person's experience of PTSD
(22:57):
is is their own experience. And it's not to say
that they're a compiled but their experience is valid and
real and like and and it's so important I think
for people to realize that, because I think people that
think like who are like humble about their experience, are like, well,
it's not that big of a deal, you know, for
me to feel this way, when if there's so many
other people out there that are having such a harder
time than I am, and then they kind of squash
(23:17):
those feelings themselves and don't do anything about it, and
you know, and and and for them, like they're just
like suppressing them their own emotions, don't feelings and not
like working through whatever they have to work through. But yeah,
and I think there's a I don't know, I'm just
I'm fascinated with like all of the different ways to
do it. Like I've tried mushrooms, microdos acid, Like I'm
(23:38):
thinking about doing Iyebo gain because apparently it's like a
full of dopamine reset. But I'm like, I don't know
if I really am like yeah, it's like it's like
it's like ahauasca is the mom and I begins to
dad or something like that. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah, the aahuasca thing freaks me out a little bit,
but maybe that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Maybe I need to go that far.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
There's not really any point in talking about Bobby, you know,
like unless there's something like you want to talk about him,
because I was just interested. He has influenced on you,
but you already kind of want you already kind of
said that like he was like a second father.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah yeah, I mean he, like I said, he kind
of taught me the things that I feel like my
biological dad couldn't have, you know, and he just like
you know, it was the best like you know mentor.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
For for that you know that could have been.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
And like he actually committed suicide, Like is this been
like five years ago now four or five years He
had a stroke and like got to where he couldn't play,
and you know, one thing led to another.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And yeah, so you know, even with that talking about
like loss and stuff. It's just like stuff kind of
like wrection in a different way, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like I think, I think the best
line anxiety thing is like so real, Like I can't
I keep thinking about that when you just said that,
because I think that there's like I think when we
get into our brands, that we have a bast line
anxiety or be a signed anything. It's really hard to
like go back and like fix that. When you've accepted
something about yourself like that, and if it has been
(25:21):
that way for so long, it's so hard to kind
of just reprogram your brand to not.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Accept that or to think that like it could ever
be any different.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, which is which is crazy and it's
and it's totally understandable. But I mean, you don't think
it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
But it's like I mean, I've had people tell me like, oh,
you know, maybe somebody that you won't need medication, and
I'm like maybe, but like also I've kind of accepted
that it's okay if I do, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And there's nothing like wrong with.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
That, No, not at all. No, I think what whatever works,
you know.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
As long as it's you know, your body's like doing
things and healthy. You know, doses and you know you're
not You're losing your mind or something.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
No con.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Edit delete cool.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I'm not taking gun into the Bowery Hotel?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Did you bring them to the Bowery Hotel?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Loaded to what?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I didn't know that part.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I'll tell you all about it.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
The Imaginable
Beyond megable.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
From finding one of the world's most successful rock bands
at only fifteen years old to becoming a sought after
producer in Nashville by the age of twenty one, Lincoln
Parish has a truly unique existence and perspective. Tune in
for a candid chat about forming Kids the Elephant, AI's
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production capabilities, loss and mental health. Oh and be sure
to listen to the end for a Cliff Huger story
about a member of Kids the Elephant at the Bowery
Hotel in New York City that I probably should have cut.
I'm your host, Jimmy Bryn. You're listening to the unimaginable.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I guess my earliest memory of guitar was whenever I
was like five years old and my grandmother was like
the church and pianists like organists in the church and
played every Sunday, and somebody got me like a toy
guitar for Christmas, and I just like I didn't know
any chords. I would just like get up and like
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fake strum in front of like the congregation or crowd
or whatever. And so that's probably my earliest I was
always like drawn to guitar, and then like my parents.
I remember they tried to get me lessons when I
was like six, and it was like this older lady
who taught like class school, and I think I took
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her for about six months and it was just I.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Was too young, and then kind of gave it up.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
A couple of years later, same thing again, took from
this other guy and he was like classical trained kind
of style.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And same kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I played for like six seven months and then like
got bored with it and it kind of just like
quit practicing. And then when I was like twelve, I
was going through like my parents' addict, and like I
found one of the guitars, like a pew of the
stringsken off of it, and I just like I was
just kind of playing around with it and like kind
(02:06):
of tuned like one string to like some sort of note.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I'm sure it wasn't really in tune to anything, but
and then I just kind of was coming up with
melodies on this one string. I was either eleven about
turn twelve or twelve out to turn thirteen, not really
totally sure. I think twelve about thirteen. So I go
to my parents and I'm like, can I take lessons again.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And they're like.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
All right, this time you either got to like stick
with it or like this is it, you know. And
they found this guy at like the local music store
who is like he taught like he's kind of more
of like a rock came from like a blues background,
and he was like not classical at all. So me
and him just hit it off like immediately, Like I mean,
(02:52):
he's honestly at one point became like a second father figure,
you know. And and I would always say, is like
taught me the things that like because my dad was
like a doctor, So like maybe my dad's great, but
like there was certain like life experiences that like Bobby,
my guitar teacher, had that like you know, my dad
(03:13):
could have never you know what I mean taught me
because he just had a different upbringing and life experience,
you know. So that yeah, that's kind of like when
I really like fell in love with like guitar, and
I was like all right, this is it. Only took
from him for like two and a half years and
then uh, that's when the band kind of started. I
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was fifteen. My mom had to like drop me off
at like my audition. If you wanna call it that
or whatever it was. But yeah, I had had a
couple of different like garage bands with like kids I
went to school with, and then they all like kind
of broke up around the same time. And then like
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the couple of the dudes from Cage had another band
called Perfect Confusion. That band broke up, so they were
in between bands. I was in between bands, and they
we happened running into each other one night at a
Buffalo Wild Wings. I was there with my sister and
her fiance at the time, now my brother in law,
and I just kept hearing my name over my shoulder
(04:20):
and it turned out it was Jared the drummer, and
they just had some guy come in from like Indiana,
and I guess it just wasn't like a good fit
or whatever. And so yeah, they were like, do you
want to come jam with this on Wednesday?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And so yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Then I had to go home and like ask my parents.
My mom she had to take me because they didn't
have my license yet. I think I had my permit,
but she takes me and like I'm getting my like
amp and whenever we pull in the driveway, because they
rehearsed at Jared's parents' basement. So I were pulling in
Jared's dad's in the driveway and like he's out there
(04:56):
like smoking a cigarette, and my mom's like, I'm getting
myst I found the car and I was like, oh,
y'all are gonna love him all this stuff, and then
like shut up, mom.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You know it was embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
But so I was the first one there besides Jared,
but he was still asleep. It's like four in the afternoon,
he's like still sleeping. And then uh so I go
down and like Bill showed me where his uh like where.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
The jam room was in the basement.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I just kind of like set my amp up down
there and like waited for like everybody to come in.
And we wrote like three songs at first night together
that ended up making it on the first record, a
song called Soul to the Sun, Drones in the Valley,
and another song called Judas. So yeah, all in that
(05:50):
same night we wrote those three songs, and then we
were a couple of the dudes were friends with some
of the guys in Nappy Roots it's like rap group,
which is also from.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Balling Green, and they were gonna let us come up
to Louisville.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Kentucky and do some demos for free, like do like
a weekend kind of thing. So we went up that
weekend and like cut demos. It was after we did
the demos that they were like, Okay, do you want
to be in the band?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And I was like, I got to ask my parents,
but yes.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So we made the first album in the fall of
two thousand and five, and then I don't even think
it came out in the UK until like sometime in
two thousand and seven, and then not even out in
the US until like two thousand and eight or nine.
Even the first album was like four or five years
old to us by the time it really like kind
of took off. But yeah, we made the album first.
Before we kind of really did a lot of like touring.
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We'd play like, you know, a bar in Louisville or
a bar in Knoxville or little places like you know,
like ones that we could book and just email them
ourselves and boocket. But then this guy that we were
working with, it was like a developmental kind of guy,
you know, record A and R kind of dude, but
not associated with a label at the time. We so
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we met with him and you know, it was like
he was like all right, like let's do this, but
we didn't have any money, so it was like we
had to do it in like ten days and just
kind of got in did it really quick, and yeah,
that was that, and then we did South then like
the next thing I remember kind of being the next
big thing. It was like we went to South of
Southwest that next following spring, and then two albums later
(07:30):
actually in twenty thirteen. Uh, because that album, Melophobia came
out I think like November that year, October that year,
and I left the band in November that year after
right after it came out, and you know, I just
I had started producing other bands or out. You know,
(07:53):
I was more so just friends when I was like eighteen,
because I was we'd come on off the road and
I just wanted to do something different that was just
not what we were, you know, being in a band,
like that's great and all, but like you play the
same set every night pretty much, and it's the same
songs and you're kind of always living in the same wheelhouse.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Being in a bond obviously, it is very difficult, uh,
you know, to be with to see the people on
the road all day, every day, all every night, every
green Room, every stitche every it's the same song.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Every night, being married to five different women.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, I would always say, yeah, I think I think
that's gonna be that's going to take a toll on
on anyone. And I also think your timing seemed to
be quite good. Like you get out at the top,
you know, but.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
They say, by love so high.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
But but then and then to turn it turn to
turn into like having a career and being a producer
and moving to Nashville and being so young. I just
I kind of find it remarkable, like I don't know
of any other producer or that I know all of that,
like hot, such a successful career about the age of
like nineteen or something, you know, and I had been
on the road for years at that point, and then
(09:09):
all of a sudden, I have their own studio on
Nashville and the recording friends bonds and building up essentially
like you know, the next avatar of you or the
next chapter of your life. I guess you've been doing,
not know, I for like probably what's ten years or
I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
It'll be ten years since I left the band this November.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, right, so ten years it's a lottle time.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Ten years full time and if you really count, since
I eighteen, so an extra five years on top of that,
it's like fifteen years almost of like starting to like
produce and like do other co writing outside of the band.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, what was Nashville like then versus not? You know, like,
what's the vibe like here?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
And compared to me night and day? I would say,
I guess if you were to compare it like just this,
it's grown so much, and like I think.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's great because it brings a lot more diversity to
the city and I feel like it lost some of
its like neighborhood feel.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
But like so basically it's become a big stinking city.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I don't know. I think it's a little friendlier than that.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Still, but like I always love coming here, like I
haven't been here in years.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Still friendlier than that to me.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
But you know, the thing about here is like I
feel like people will be nice to your face and
stab you in the back where it's like in like
New York and l A and London places like that,
they'll just like like yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You know, like the justs they missed out the nice part.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, like and like I kind of appreciate that though,
it's like get to the point and like, don't fake
it if you're not into it, you know, like I'd rather.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Just somebody tell me you don't like it. If you
don't like it.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Well, like like, well that's like something that you're working on,
or just in general.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, well, I mean just in general, but like people
I think can try to be a little too nice here,
and it's like you could just save a lot of
time if you just got to the point.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, set it out really was.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, that reminds me of your your childhood. And if
you're like I want to go to school between like
eight and ten, I can get it all done by then,
you know, yeah, I don't. I don't want to sit
here and spend a whole day school working on something
that I can do in two hours. And you know
that's the point.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, But as the as the.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Like, but in terms of like songwriters coming through time
and like you know, obviously Nashville was like a mecca
for like country music, and then it developed into like
pop music, and there's like there's a crossover both of
those things happen at the same time.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Like I feel like everybody's here.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Now there's people that I didn't even I feel like
every week I hear about somebody that lives here that
I didn't know lives here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, you know, I feel like a lot of you know, there's.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
A lot more like writers or like Bonds or.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, both like pop rock.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You know, even if they're not here full time, they're
here splitting time, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
You know, but it's definitely like I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I hardly I don't think I can't really name one
country thing that I've done in the last like two years.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You know. Yeah, it's changed a lot. You know.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
You could also like back in the day, like when
I first started doing co writes around town, like it
was pretty normal to like send in like a cell
phone like work tape was what we called them, you know,
like usually like a guitar and a vocal, or a
piano and a vocal. But now it's like if you
don't send in like a completely like finished mixed track
(12:33):
the stems, yeah yeah, yeah, basically with all the deliverables
and everything, then you know, nobody, your publisher is going
to look at it. Like if I send in a
cell phone work tape. Now, I'm sure they'd be like,
what is this open?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, what do you what are you doing? Lincoln?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah? No, I think whenever I was here in Nashville
and writing songs and even writing songs with you, I
just like I remember, you know, Noshville just being like
it felt like it felt like a really fun and
energetic space to being as a creator, and like I
felt like there was still like hype wrong the music
industry and it was like, you know, there was stuff
hopping and deals getting mid and ever since I've been
(13:10):
in LA and New York and I'm back here, it
feels like maybe it's because of COVID or I'm not
sure exactly what it is, but it feels like everybody's
kind of slow down on the deal making stuff, or
maybe it's because of infliction.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
You know, I think a little bit of all of it.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I mean, the whole thing is completely different now. I
mean even from like you know, I'm interested to see
where producers go in the next five to ten years,
because I mean, I think there's always going to.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Be a need for producers work on they go.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I'm just saying like with the like, because you know,
everybody's making stuff at home and like in the bedroom
and like you know.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
And they're making stuff sound good.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, and it's like you don't really need that much
anymore to make good sound and stuff. It's like almost
more beneficial for them to go find like a good mixer. Yeah,
you know, like they can kind of create it and
produce it out themselves and they like you know, so,
I mean I do a ton of mixing now too,
because I mean I'm always going to produce, but even
thinking ahead of like if it goes more that way,
then like I'm ready to go. Somebody was telling me
(14:08):
that they went to some AI thing at a conference
panel and like they had it to where I guess
it was gonna be able to like study, Like it
would be basically be able to record and look at
my session and like how I work.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
And like like on the screen it would like.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Record, like would kind of monitor how I do everything
and like say like how I usually would like eque
the electric guitar or like things I would put like
plug in wise and guitar, or like if I put
a like typically run a bunch of reverbs or something
or whatever, we would like remember all this and like
it would take like a few sessions to do it,
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but then it would be able to like AI produce
for said person.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Right, it's cool and it's creepy at the same time.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
What's gonna hop them? Whenever AI figures out how to
fix itself, you know it's going to be it's all
over it point.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
But I think there wasn't there like an AI rapper
who was signed and then he already got dropped.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Oh really, I know because I was.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I think he like he said something that was like
not PC or.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Was it him or the AI that said it was
like the AI, but like he like did it and
then I got dropped.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So it's like it's already been a thing where like capital.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Or really Yeah, so the A I got consoled.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Not even getting I wish I was making us.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
You know. I kept thinking about like an AI recordable,
where you've got these two engines, right, you got the
music AI guys, and you got the you know on
the lyric A I want would have picked them together
and they put what you got a song?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Like AI?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Like yeah, then that keeps telling them it's not good enough.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
He's just like tell it's just to get stuck on
the loop. You're not good enough. You're not good enough.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
You need find a new mix on this one.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Can you do that one again, Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I think the inn should be shorter.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Can you work on those lyrics?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Mh, this will be good for sync.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
There's a lot of similarities between ourselves in in the
in the mental health department where there's you know, I've
had a little moments or or or large moments or
long length of time you know, like years where you
know it struggled a lot with stuff and I.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Know I had a bad day that lasted a couple
of years.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I think, you know, being part of the music business too,
is like it kind of goes hand in hand, like
you know, life on the road and like you know
all that goes along with that, and you know, and
then coming back to normality.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Maybe for you you don't know what is normal.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It took me like when I first got off the
road and it was just your Nashville at home, do
you know, producing and do the writing thing, you know,
to me a while to like like you know, figure
out like, oh it's not nobody else is having a
drink at ten a m. Yeah, I'm only one here,
Like doing this, Okay, cool, all right, and then you
(17:18):
start to you know, see which way that can take
you really quick. But yeah, man, you know, I don't
ever try to shy away or behind it. You know.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
It is what it is. Like, we're all, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Human, and everybody is going through something I think more
than what we even know.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
You know. It's like, yeah, I mean sometimes it doesn't
even take.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
That much for me, you know, I yeah, no idea,
but it could be like sometimes it can be a
build up of a lot of different ship that you know,
finally over overflows the cup and then you're like the
littlest thing can set you off. But yeah, I mean,
you know, definitely was like especially for me since like
I basically like left home it was like fifteen on
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the road and like, you know, seeing all this crazy
stuff and doing a bunch of crazy stuff and everything
that comes with it. And then like you leave that
when you're like basically just turning twenty four and kind
of stepping into reality, you're like, you know what, your
reality isn't really yeah exactly, My reality has never really
(18:28):
been reality, you know what I mean. So it was, Yeah,
it was a little bit of a wake up call.
In the best way possible.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, but uh yeah, and it's you know, it's still
something that I struggle with, you know, from time to time. Yeah,
I'm not trying to act.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Like everything's like yeah, no, no, sunshine and roses every
day now still, but it's a lot better than it
used to be.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, that's good. Yeah. No. I went to I went
to some new kind of therapist that practices this thing
called neural feedback. Have you have you heard about that? Is?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I mean, is it similar to like em D R H.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It's kind of like that. It's kind of like the
next level for me of em DR, because em DR
is more focused on kind of like getting your memories
into a certain order in your brand so that you're
not like, yes, you're not always like like seeing through
a certain lens and like being triggered by everything because
you know that something's right in the front of your
(19:23):
your mind the whole time, you know, something that was difficult.
But with this your feedback stuff, it's like they they
kind of put these electromagnets on magnets on your brain
and they measure a frequency for whatever symptlement is that
you're saying that you have. So I went instead I
have anxiety, And so they know that your brain puts
out some kind of signal or frequency, it's like an
(19:44):
actual frequency that we just can't hear, and they measure that.
And then what they do is they they put some
headphones on you and you watch a Netflix show, but
there they have this technology built that they overlap on
top of the Netflix screen and it will like change
the audio. So like say if a door slammed and
on the show, you wouldn't really hear it. But because
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you know they're trying to trigger your anxiety, they make
the door slam like super lied, or they make this
somebody's voice like just go something. You start to freak out,
you know, and then your anxiety starts to like get triggered.
And they measure all that and so they get then
they hone in on what the actual frequency is of
yours and then they tune it out of your brain.
And so you do it, like, you know, twenty times
(20:27):
that is what they recommend to do it. I'm like,
I did it myself and I'm just like floored by
it because it worked. Like it took me from like
a nine to zero. Wow in anxiety neuro feedback, Yeah,
so it's like, yeah, look it up. It's like that's
something I've done recently.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
That's super. I've been wanting to like try to like
the Ketamen treatments, you.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Know, for you know, just some like long last anxiety,
baseline anxiety kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, or I think just for whatever reason and just
always yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, yeah, No, I think it's a good It's I
think it's like probably just years and years and years
and years of like like abuse. He didn't know, but
it's like, but it's so hard to kind of get
through that. And I think so many people feel the
same way, you know, and like it's like and I'm
always I've tried every kind of different method that comes
out or that somebody tells me about it. I'm always
like I'll let me, I'll get the opera, I'll listen
(21:18):
to the thing and whatever it is. But yeah, just
interested to hear your experience all that.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
But like, yeah, I mean I was talking to a
therapist one time, you know, and I've lost so many
friends like drugs and different things like that, and he
was like, you've had as many people die in your
life that you were close to as like some soldiers
that have like like, you know, I can't say that,
(21:43):
like my experiences are anywhere near what those guys are,
you know, Yeah, but I think you know, you know,
he was like this, the amount of loss that you've
experienced in your thirty three years of being alive.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
You know, it's like as much as some like people
that come back from war.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, yeah, no, I like agree, and you know, it's
you know, it's hard. It's even some of these people,
like say Taylor Hawkins for example, Like you know, we
toured with the Food Fighters for you know, a couple
of months and ye did shows with them and did
tour with them in South America, and we're constantly doing
(22:18):
radio festivals with them, So we were always around those
guys a lot. And like, you know, I'm not saying
like I was best friends with Taylor by any means,
but like when you're around somebody every day, yeah, even
just like kind of on a tour like that, and
you've like had dinner with them and you know, and
then something like that happens, it's like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Well, something I think whenever you go through loss, like
the word itself kind of tells the whole story that
you have lost something like that and whether it's like
somebody that you knew really well or not or what
and even going back to what you're talking about with
PTSD and soldiers and so on, Like, I think one
thing I'm learning is that each person's experience of PTSD
(22:57):
is is their own experience. And it's not to say
that they're a compiled but their experience is valid and
real and like and and it's so important I think
for people to realize that, because I think people that
think like who are like humble about their experience, are like, well,
it's not that big of a deal, you know, for
me to feel this way, when if there's so many
other people out there that are having such a harder
time than I am, and then they kind of squash
(23:17):
those feelings themselves and don't do anything about it, and
you know, and and and for them, like they're just
like suppressing them their own emotions, don't feelings and not
like working through whatever they have to work through. But yeah,
and I think there's a I don't know, I'm just
I'm fascinated with like all of the different ways to
do it. Like I've tried mushrooms, microdos acid, Like I'm
(23:38):
thinking about doing Iyebo gain because apparently it's like a
full of dopamine reset. But I'm like, I don't know
if I really am like yeah, it's like it's like
it's like ahauasca is the mom and I begins to
dad or something like that. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah, the aahuasca thing freaks me out a little bit,
but maybe that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Maybe I need to go that far.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
There's not really any point in talking about Bobby, you know,
like unless there's something like you want to talk about him,
because I was just interested. He has influenced on you,
but you already kind of want you already kind of
said that like he was like a second father.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah yeah, I mean he, like I said, he kind
of taught me the things that I feel like my
biological dad couldn't have, you know, and he just like
you know, it was the best like you know mentor.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
For for that you know that could have been.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
And like he actually committed suicide, Like is this been
like five years ago now four or five years He
had a stroke and like got to where he couldn't play,
and you know, one thing led to another.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And yeah, so you know, even with that talking about
like loss and stuff. It's just like stuff kind of
like wrection in a different way, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like I think, I think the best
line anxiety thing is like so real, Like I can't
I keep thinking about that when you just said that,
because I think that there's like I think when we
get into our brands, that we have a bast line
anxiety or be a signed anything. It's really hard to
like go back and like fix that. When you've accepted
something about yourself like that, and if it has been
(25:21):
that way for so long, it's so hard to kind
of just reprogram your brand to not.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Accept that or to think that like it could ever
be any different.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, which is which is crazy and it's
and it's totally understandable. But I mean, you don't think
it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
But it's like I mean, I've had people tell me like, oh,
you know, maybe somebody that you won't need medication, and
I'm like maybe, but like also I've kind of accepted
that it's okay if I do, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And there's nothing like wrong with.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
That, No, not at all. No, I think what whatever works,
you know.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
As long as it's you know, your body's like doing
things and healthy. You know, doses and you know you're
not You're losing your mind or something.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
No con.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Edit delete cool.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I'm not taking gun into the Bowery Hotel?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Did you bring them to the Bowery Hotel?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Loaded to what?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I didn't know that part.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I'll tell you all about it.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
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