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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, folks, we are back on the way concept
presented by The Ring Magazine and today, as you can see,
I have the Christmas lights out early because Christmas potentially
is coming early to those of us that are wondering
what's happening with Jake Paul in his next fight and
if it's going to be at the end of the
year and then the same breath, this might be the
worst decision Jake Paul has ever made.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
What do I mean? There is breaking news.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
From The Ring Magazine and Mike Coppinger, Anthony Joshua, and
Jake Paul are finalizing a deal for a heavyweight fight
on Netflix in December in Miami. Sources tell The Rings
Mike Coppinger Paul steps up to fight.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Former heavyweight champion after.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
His exhibition with Javonte Davis was canceled once again generational
fumble by Javonte Davis. But this is insane. We have
to talk about what this fight may look like. How
likely is it to happen. We have an interview from
Eddie Hearn and Marcos over at fight Hub TV that
I want to get into.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You put if this is real, Jake Paul is.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Going to have to put both of his balls in
his ball sack in a wheelbarrow and walk it to
the ring, because that's how big of balls he needs
to fight Anthony Joshua. You heard the names like Francis
and Gan who say no? You heard Oscar de Laoya
tell Ryan Garcia, no, you can't. We've heard other names
(01:23):
like Nate Diez maybe popping up in there. Please, let's
just not even bring that up, actually, because I do
not want that to happen. But never did I think
that Jake, Paul and Anthony Joshua we're gonna tango on
again thirty days, notice potentially maybe thirty seven. But let's
get into this entire thing. What the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Is this real?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
And if so, how in the world did Jake convince
Nikisa and everybody around him to sponsor potentially what might
be a live murder on television. I'm kind of being sarcastic,
but I'm not really because that's the former heavyweight champion
of the world. Jake was about to fight an exhibition.
None of this makes any sense, but we got to
talk about it.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
The breakdown. Let's go. Let's start with it again.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Just the announcement itself, Anthony Joshua Jake Paul finalizing for
a heavyweight fight on Netflix in December in Miami. Couple
things there right away that we can take away from this.
Number One, this would be the thing that potentially could
cause the snag in the road here. We all know
at this point from the rumors of them potentially fighting
(02:30):
in twenty twenty six that came out I think two
or three months ago, that one of the biggest issues
in making this fight.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
One.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yes, that's the former heavyweight champ. Why is he fighting
Jake Paul?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
In two?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Why is Jake Paul putting his health and well being
on the line? Because someone asked me on Twitter, Wait,
if Jake Paul gets knocked out, with his career be over,
budd he his life may be over if he gets
knocked out by AJ, because that dude put Francis and
Gan who flat on his back, and I had never
seen Francis and Goan who hurt before. Again, it's boxing,
not MMA. Jake has a little more experience, but we're
(03:02):
talking about a.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Massive size difference.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
AJ's still relatively young and still relatively got something left
in the tank, and he's only fought the world class
guys for the last ten years. This would be Jake's
not only hardest fight, most dangerous fight of his career.
If Jake is doing this, it could signal the last one.
I'm not even joking. This could signal Jake being like,
(03:26):
I'm having one more of these than I'm out. Because
where do you go from Anthony Joshua. We'll get into
that part in a second. But the Netflix thing, we
know that Anthony Joshua is an exclusive fighter to Dezone.
Eddie Herne has stated that multiple times. Aj I'm pretty
sure even has a piece of his own. I could
be wrong about that, but he signed a mega deal
years ago with them. So for this fight to take
(03:49):
place on Netflix would mean Dezone would say, you can
have one of our biggest cash draws and I maybe
in a revenue share thing or maybe Netflix pays some money,
but you can have our biggest cash draw and we
don't have an affiliation with it. That seems a bit unrealistic.
But having said that, this is a report from anybody
in the camp. This is not MVP saying it. This
(04:11):
is not Eddie Hearn saying it. This is Mike Coppinger,
who I guess has talked to people in the camp,
but an independent source saying that they are finalizing a deal,
not that they're in talks. They are finalizing a deal.
So this is again we're talking one yard line first
in goal, right, We're right there. They just need to
dot some eye and cross some tee. So I wonder
(04:32):
how if that's the last barrier, because when you're finalizing
a deal, this isn't time for oh, well, you can
back out if you don't think this is gonna make
any sense, or oh this is gonna hurt my legacy,
or oh, Jake, you're gonna get really hurt.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
They're past that point.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
They're at the point now where both guys are locked
in set and ready to go. Whether it's the Netflix thing,
whether it's you know, is there a certain weight thing
they want to do, or rounds or who knows, but
they're right there now. There is an interview that came
out four days ago from Eddie Hern talking to Marcos
over at fight Hub TV about the potential of a
(05:06):
Jake Paul aj fight. Now, this makes things even more interesting. Now,
remember it was four days ago when this interview was conducted.
Listen to the way Eddie talks about this fight.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Hey, speaking of AJ, So what's the what's the latest
on his return? I see you guys annow the fight
in Ghana. He's always wanted to have a fight in Africa.
He has Africa tattooed on his shoulder. I believe I
would think that's the perfect card to put him on, right.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yeah, I mean I think that, you know, a fight
in Africa originally was planned for February time. You know,
this fight this year. We just talk about it like
that sort of eight round runout fight where he's quite
unusual and we've never looked at doing it before because
Aj is always the guy that fills the stadiums and
he still is. But with that comes a huge amount
of pressure. Also the need to fight a real quite
(05:58):
a tough fight, and when you out for like a
year and a half, coming off a knockout defeat. We
just talked about the benefit to him of actually just
getting back in a groove, you know, wrapping your hands,
just turning up on the night, you know, just just
beating someone and then going into a bigger fight and
then going into Tyson fury. So you know that everything
(06:19):
is still an option at the moment.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Listen, to how Eddie is talking about wanting to get
AJ back. We don't want to put him into a
you know, in his eyes, very difficult fight in his
first one back. We want to go through you know,
he's not saying it, but he's saying, like a dress rehearsal,
we want to put.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You in there with a guy that you know isn't the.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Most difficult, but it gets you back to getting your
hands wrapped, to getting in the gym, you know, to
having the night of feels, and backing the ring and
knocking off the ring rust.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
And it's really tough for a guy like AJ to
do that.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
One because of the fact that he's world class or
he had been for the last decade or so, and
two because of his name. AJ can't fight a lot
of no name guys, especially if they're not in the
top five ten at heavyweight, and those guys, even if
they don't have a big name, can be trouble. So
that is kind of the dichotomy of trying to get
(07:10):
an AJ fight. Well, if you were going to try
to check the boxes of someone that wasn't as difficult
as a top ten, top fifteen guy and then had
a big name as a quote unquote dress rehearsal as
someone that would get Aj back into the gym, maybe
have another fight after that, and then Tyson Fury. Jake
Paul makes the most sense in the world. And it
(07:31):
doesn't make any sense the fight itself, but it makes
sense in this crazy crossover scene that we have. I mean,
I can't even believe I'm saying that in any way,
shape or form, AJ fight makes sense.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
But for what Eddie wants, someone that's.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Not as difficult, so maybe a shorter round fight and
someone to get him just going again and get his
mindset back into the boxing mindset. Jake Paul would definitely
fit that. And again, if it's on Netflix, that's a
may fight.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So the decisions on him or do you guys already know, Like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I think that this. I mean, there are a lot
of conversations at the moment, you know, there's conversations with
his excellency about that plan. In twenty twenty six. Of course,
there's a couple of preliminary Jake Paul discussions.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That four days ago, a couple of preliminary Jake Paul discussions.
This is from four days ago to now where we
have finalizing a deal. Something's happened in those four days
to take those discussions from preliminary to finalizing. And the
(08:38):
only thing I can think of is that they either
got a clearance through his own to have AJ fight
on Netflix, or that this is going to be on
his own with Jake and AJ, which again I don't
know why it would be reported that it would be
on Netflix had they not discussed already moving it to
I think that this is closer to being AJ and
Jake on Netflix than people really even think right now.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We keep going, but it's a.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Rice against time now to kind of get those like,
you know, if we're going to do a deal with
His Excellency that that's imminent obviously ben Ubank next week,
if we're going to fight Jake Paul, I mean, he'd
want to probably announce an opponent next week or in
the next week or so. If we're going to.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Four days ago.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Again, if we're going to fight Jake, he'd want to
announce upon it in a week. Yeah, because you're thirty
days away from December twelfth now or thirty one days,
and that date seems to be a likely option. And
then December nineteenth, which I look on that calendar. I
don't see a ton of big fights happening on December nineteenth,
And again, Jake likes to do these these fights on Fridays,
(09:38):
not Saturdays. With Netflix, those two dates are wide open.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
We're running out of time if we're going to do
something this year, and if we're going to do something
this year, we'll be decided in the next week.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Is he has he been in camp already? Has he
been training?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, he's just in camp now, you know, so he'd
be ready to fight in a couple of weeks. Notice
it in an eight round sort of easy ish fight.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
But if you want, you'd be ready.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
To go on a couple of weeks. Notice on an
eight round, easy ish fight. I don't know what the
fight will look like, but that seems like signaling. To
talk about a Jake Paul fight. Eight rounds would make
some sense because Jake has been going ten now for
a while, so maybe they do ten. But again, just
something to get aj back. Signaling is what I'm seeing.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Once a championship fight over twelve rounds, it's likely we'll
see that one in the beginning of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, I would imagine if he's in an eight rounder,
he's going to take a pick cut, like he's.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
The money's not The Money's not really the motivator here, Marcus.
It's more just getting into the groove of like returning.
Like if you come back after a year and a
half and you're in a tough championship fight against a
guy that fourt three months ago and he's on a
good run, it's like, you know, of course, the money
is always a motivator, but he's got he's always doing
(10:55):
all right. You know, this is more about the final
run in his career where we can get the most
out of his ability and just be one hundred percent
at the key moments, at the big times.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Again, you hear the way, dude, I'm getting I mean again,
they're saying finalizing a deal, so that should be convincing enough,
but the way Eddie is talking here, I'm getting more
and more convinced because he's talking about, you know, really
getting the most out of this last run. It's pretty
clear that we all know that this is gonna be
AJ's you know, last run at of title, his last
couple of fights as a pro. And with that being said,
(11:31):
how do you get the most out of maximizing his
name and his value in fights that may not be
as dangerous for him. You throw him in there with
Jake Paul to start, because Jake's got a bigger name
than damn near everybody else in boxing, besides AJ besides Canelo.
Why not have them both in the ring together. Then,
depending on how he looks, he fucking obliterates Jake and
(11:54):
it doesn't go past three rounds, then you move on
and his name has gotten bigger because he's the guy
that destroyed Jake Paul, not just beat him, destroyed it.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Do you think an announcement will be made next week?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I don't know. I think probably maybe early the week off.
Obviously it's ben U Bank next week, so there's a
lot going on. And what we Friday now, so you know,
there's nothing that's imminent to be signed, but there's a
lot of conversations that are happening right now.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
This interview is four days ago. He said nothing eminent.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Something's changed in those four days, and he said probably
an announcement early next week.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
As we sit here, it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Is Wednesday, November twelfth. Eddie does have codder Ben and
Chris Hubank Junior this Saturday. This is probably if this
is going to happen, you're gonna see an announcement probably
on Monday the seventeenth, Tuesday the eighteenth.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Or hell, they might just announce the damn thing tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Since it's been reported now from Mike ibagro over at
The Ring Magazine, I'm literally checking my Twitter continually, like
go through this video to see if there are any.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Update because it being finalized is the only thing left
to do here.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Because of now we're in the coming up to the
second week in November, probably early to mid December would
be preferable.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
December twelfth, December nineteenth.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I know there's contract stipulations with AJ with he's exclusive
to deign, but have they reached out? Did they reach
out this week? Like is that a possibility?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, I've spoken to Nakisa a few times on it.
I mean, there's nothing to report to you that it's
closed or you know, there's a lot of hoops to
jump through. Of course, AJ is exclusive to his own
We also work very closely with his excellency and although
we have no contract with him, we're in talks for
big fights next year. Of course, Tyson Fury being one
(13:48):
of them. So we'd definitely give him the respect of
making sure that he was aware of the plan and
you know, part of that plan as well. But at
the moment, you know, there's nothing major to report on
that would we take the fire absolutely.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
And there you go.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
That's as simple as I mean, it's not simple. Right,
Eddie is talking about other stuff they have going on
with AJ. They're talking about the the Zone and Netflix barrier.
I'm pretty sure Ag his excellency was the one that
kind of proposed that AJ fight Jake Paul to get
rid of Jake.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
What Jack Baul doing in boxing. It's good for boxing
to have young generation. I am against some kinds of
fight you do. I want to tell you example and surprise.
I am thinking me and him to doing him against Joshua.
Now Joshua, if he just destroy him, it will be
good for me. The Headachuf Jack Ball will go from
(14:47):
my mind. If if Jack Baldwin, I will know that
Joshua is finished and Jack Baul and Jack Paul deserves
to be ranking and deserve to have your chat on boxing.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Right.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I thought fifty fifty in this situation, I wanted ninety
ninety one.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And that Jake and HG met on this entire you know,
idea that that fight could potentially happen. So I don't
think that would be an issue. It really looks like
it just comes down to the network. And again that
word that that phrasing finalizing just tells me that this
is closer than people think and that maybe the network's
not a massive issue.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I mean, my estimations of Jake Paul would go through
the roof if he if he signs the fight Ans
and Joshua, because I just can't believe in my mind
that he would do something like that. I mean, Javonte
was a smart one because of his size, Like you know,
I think actually he would have had a lot of
success against Jake Paul, but the size is a problem.
But this would just be you know, like, if Jake
(15:50):
Paul was to take the fight with aj you'd really
have to maybe carry his balls in a wheelbarrow on the.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Legitimately, I said this, this is how it would be.
But let's now talk about the totality of this fight.
This would earn Jake a ton of respect in the
boxing game with boxing fans that think he has rigged
fights fixed fights, whatever else, which is not true.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But the ones that.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Also think he takes easy fights, or doesn't fight boxers,
or doesn't fight boxers in their prime, or name the
thing that they don't like, this would quell all of that.
And that might be why Jake is crazy enough to
do it. That might be the reason he does it
is because it checks every single box that he would
potentially want to see for this fight. It gives him
(16:34):
a shit ton of money. It's dangerous, so people respect him.
It's dangerous, so people watch it and are interested in it.
And if he does, in some way perform better than
people expect, then he gets another badge of honor outside
of just taking the fight.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Now, the fight.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Itself is a fucking ridiculous one for Jake Paul. It
is a guy. He is never at any sort of
comparison of a fighter. Two right, He's fought guys smaller
than him. He's fought guys, you know, somewhat same size,
and then you know, Mike was a lot heavier, but
that was not really because Mike was fifty eight. There
has not been a guy that has every statistical attribute
(17:13):
that Jake doesn't have. Height, size, power, usually Jake separator
is his power and his size. You're talking about a
guy that's somewhat still you know, I wouldn't say AJ's
in his prime, but somewhat still relatively.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Good for what he is.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
He's still a pro boxer. He is still at the
top of the game in terms of top ten in
the world, and he's a guy that's for sure more
dangerous than anyone Jake has ever seen. Sparred all of it.
AJ is a destroyer, no pun intended. That's what he
is at his best. If Jake were to beat Anthony Joshua,
(17:51):
that would be almost legacy killing them. I'm not gonna lie.
That would be awful. But that's like pie in the
sky scenario, because when I sit down and I think
about fight, the one thing that can't leave my brain
is I know it was a different fight. I know
it was a different way. I know it was a
different Jake Paul. But he couldn't hurt Tommy Fury. He
couldn't beat Tommy Fury, and Tommy Fury's nowhere near the
(18:12):
level AJ is. And maybe Boxing Masters doesn't work out
that way, but it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't
compute up here logic and reason, don't say on any way,
Jake Paul wins this fight and maybe doesn't even come
out of the fight standing, and what Eddie said there
should strike a real reality into anyone that thinks this
is some exhibition kind of play about AJ's not going
(18:33):
to go in there and play with Jake Paul. He's
not going to go in there and play the game
or whatever you think is about to happen. He's going
to go in there and try to kill him within
the rules of the Marcus of Queensberry been doing this
a lot longer. Experience is there, power's their skill is there.
With all that being said, and I do believe AJ
could and probably should knock Jake Paul out. But if
this thing does get finalized and we get a date
and this happens in December, and Jake Paul not only
(18:55):
gets to the fight where you know it's fight night,
he's walking to the ring. If he's I would say
more than three rounds, that's a victory. And I'm not
saying a victory as far as like he wins the fight,
but that is respectable. That would and I think many
people's estimation be like, Okay, that's fucking crazy today. If
(19:16):
he survived the whole fight, that would be unthinkable for
someone of his you know, relatively new to boxing skill set.
And I say new to boxing, he's been doing it
for years now, but not on the same level or
anywhere near the same level of aj You're talking about
a former heavyweight champion of the world. On any other universe,
(19:37):
on any other world, in any other universe, this doesn't
make sense. We live in the craziest offshoot timeline in
this universe dimension where the offset, where the offshoot Earth,
where all the crazy shit happens, I'm telling you, And
never would I ever thought this fight would have happened
(19:58):
when this whole you know, crossover influencer boxing thing happen.
But if this is real and they actually finalize this,
this is going to be detrimental to Jake Paul's health,
I think, And I'm kind of shocked that they actually
like his team Nikisa. Those people fair play, They let
their fighter decide, and Jake is is headstrong on these
(20:20):
things and he understands the value in being the underdog here.
But I'm surprised they're letting this one happen, especially when
you're preparing for Jervonte Davis. You're sparring one hundred and
thirty one hundred and thirty five hundred and forty hundred
and forty seven pounders to then try to in a
matter of you know, if it were going to go
down a month from today, you're talking four weeks maybe
(20:43):
five weeks to change everything about your camp. You were
probably in the process of cutting weight for a November
fourteenth fight, which would have been in two days to
now having to put the weight back on.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
That's a lot, man, That's a lot.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
And then at the end of the road, your reward
is going and fighting Anthony Joshua, who the last time
a guy that wasn't as good or was very green
in boxing and by the way, was two hundred and
sixty five pounds and sixty four stepped in with him.
Aj absolutely destroyed Francis in Ghanu. Speaking of Francis, what
(21:19):
a fucking bag fumble from Francis and Gano. A guy
that felt disrespected by the offer apparently or the inclination
that he'd fight Jake Paul that he was above that.
But the guy that knocked him flat out cold is like,
sure Jake wants to challenge himself, come get this work.
I respect the hell out of Jake for doing this.
I would not have advised it. I don't think he
(21:40):
should do it. I think it's gonna end very badly
for him. And I don't mean just on the night.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I think this is.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I mean, this is the most dangerous fight you could take,
like detrimental to future health type of situation. Because again,
like Eddie said, AJ's not gonna come in there and
play around. He's gonna take this as serious as he needs.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
To, for sure.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
But that's all I got Right now. I'm looking on Twitter.
I don't see anything new. We're in the finalizing a
deal stage. I am interested, and you know why because
it's dangerous because it invokes the idea that Jake's going
to get absolutely fucking flat lined, which the people that
don't like him are going to.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Watch to see. It invokes the boxing versus Jake thing. Again.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It's heavyweight boxing, it's Anthony Joshua, it's a crazy chaotic matchup,
and everybody I think will tune into this even more
so than they would have for Jake and Gervontae. Those
are my thoughts. If anything new happens, I'll update you guys,
But this thing is is, like I said, right on
the one yard line. I know that Jake Paul Canelo
(22:43):
Alvarez fit was in the same kind of right at
the one yard line thing before Canelo ended up signing
with Turkey. Maybe something like that happens in this case.
I'm not sure, but regardless. The announcement is from The
Ring magazine and Mike Coppinger that AJ and Jake Paul
are finalizing a deal set for December Miami, Netflix heavyweight
(23:04):
pro bout Eddie Hearn saying maybe eight round or something
like that. What really happens here, I don't have those answers,
but I feel like we're gonna get a very very soon,
so I guess we'll find out
All right, folks, we are back on the way concept
presented by The Ring Magazine and today, as you can see,
I have the Christmas lights out early because Christmas potentially
is coming early to those of us that are wondering
what's happening with Jake Paul in his next fight and
if it's going to be at the end of the
year and then the same breath, this might be the
worst decision Jake Paul has ever made.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
What do I mean? There is breaking news.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
From The Ring Magazine and Mike Coppinger, Anthony Joshua, and
Jake Paul are finalizing a deal for a heavyweight fight
on Netflix in December in Miami. Sources tell The Rings
Mike Coppinger Paul steps up to fight.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Former heavyweight champion after.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
His exhibition with Javonte Davis was canceled once again generational
fumble by Javonte Davis. But this is insane. We have
to talk about what this fight may look like. How
likely is it to happen. We have an interview from
Eddie Hearn and Marcos over at fight Hub TV that
I want to get into.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You put if this is real, Jake Paul is.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Going to have to put both of his balls in
his ball sack in a wheelbarrow and walk it to
the ring, because that's how big of balls he needs
to fight Anthony Joshua. You heard the names like Francis
and Gan who say no? You heard Oscar de Laoya
tell Ryan Garcia, no, you can't. We've heard other names
(01:23):
like Nate Diez maybe popping up in there. Please, let's
just not even bring that up, actually, because I do
not want that to happen. But never did I think
that Jake, Paul and Anthony Joshua we're gonna tango on
again thirty days, notice potentially maybe thirty seven. But let's
get into this entire thing. What the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Is this real?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
And if so, how in the world did Jake convince
Nikisa and everybody around him to sponsor potentially what might
be a live murder on television. I'm kind of being sarcastic,
but I'm not really because that's the former heavyweight champion
of the world. Jake was about to fight an exhibition.
None of this makes any sense, but we got to
talk about it.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
The breakdown. Let's go. Let's start with it again.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Just the announcement itself, Anthony Joshua Jake Paul finalizing for
a heavyweight fight on Netflix in December in Miami. Couple
things there right away that we can take away from this.
Number One, this would be the thing that potentially could
cause the snag in the road here. We all know
at this point from the rumors of them potentially fighting
(02:30):
in twenty twenty six that came out I think two
or three months ago, that one of the biggest issues
in making this fight.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
One.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yes, that's the former heavyweight champ. Why is he fighting
Jake Paul?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
In two?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Why is Jake Paul putting his health and well being
on the line? Because someone asked me on Twitter, Wait,
if Jake Paul gets knocked out, with his career be over,
budd he his life may be over if he gets
knocked out by AJ, because that dude put Francis and
Gan who flat on his back, and I had never
seen Francis and Goan who hurt before. Again, it's boxing,
not MMA. Jake has a little more experience, but we're
(03:02):
talking about a.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Massive size difference.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
AJ's still relatively young and still relatively got something left
in the tank, and he's only fought the world class
guys for the last ten years. This would be Jake's
not only hardest fight, most dangerous fight of his career.
If Jake is doing this, it could signal the last one.
I'm not even joking. This could signal Jake being like,
(03:26):
I'm having one more of these than I'm out. Because
where do you go from Anthony Joshua. We'll get into
that part in a second. But the Netflix thing, we
know that Anthony Joshua is an exclusive fighter to Dezone.
Eddie Herne has stated that multiple times. Aj I'm pretty
sure even has a piece of his own. I could
be wrong about that, but he signed a mega deal
years ago with them. So for this fight to take
(03:49):
place on Netflix would mean Dezone would say, you can
have one of our biggest cash draws and I maybe
in a revenue share thing or maybe Netflix pays some money,
but you can have our biggest cash draw and we
don't have an affiliation with it. That seems a bit unrealistic.
But having said that, this is a report from anybody
in the camp. This is not MVP saying it. This
(04:11):
is not Eddie Hearn saying it. This is Mike Coppinger,
who I guess has talked to people in the camp,
but an independent source saying that they are finalizing a deal,
not that they're in talks. They are finalizing a deal.
So this is again we're talking one yard line first
in goal, right, We're right there. They just need to
dot some eye and cross some tee. So I wonder
(04:32):
how if that's the last barrier, because when you're finalizing
a deal, this isn't time for oh, well, you can
back out if you don't think this is gonna make
any sense, or oh this is gonna hurt my legacy,
or oh, Jake, you're gonna get really hurt.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
They're past that point.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
They're at the point now where both guys are locked
in set and ready to go. Whether it's the Netflix thing,
whether it's you know, is there a certain weight thing
they want to do, or rounds or who knows, but
they're right there now. There is an interview that came
out four days ago from Eddie Hern talking to Marcos
over at fight Hub TV about the potential of a
(05:06):
Jake Paul aj fight. Now, this makes things even more interesting. Now,
remember it was four days ago when this interview was conducted.
Listen to the way Eddie talks about this fight.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Hey, speaking of AJ, So what's the what's the latest
on his return? I see you guys annow the fight
in Ghana. He's always wanted to have a fight in Africa.
He has Africa tattooed on his shoulder. I believe I
would think that's the perfect card to put him on, right.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yeah, I mean I think that, you know, a fight
in Africa originally was planned for February time. You know,
this fight this year. We just talk about it like
that sort of eight round runout fight where he's quite
unusual and we've never looked at doing it before because
Aj is always the guy that fills the stadiums and
he still is. But with that comes a huge amount
of pressure. Also the need to fight a real quite
(05:58):
a tough fight, and when you out for like a
year and a half, coming off a knockout defeat. We
just talked about the benefit to him of actually just
getting back in a groove, you know, wrapping your hands,
just turning up on the night, you know, just just
beating someone and then going into a bigger fight and
then going into Tyson fury. So you know that everything
(06:19):
is still an option at the moment.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Listen, to how Eddie is talking about wanting to get
AJ back. We don't want to put him into a
you know, in his eyes, very difficult fight in his
first one back. We want to go through you know,
he's not saying it, but he's saying, like a dress rehearsal,
we want to put.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You in there with a guy that you know isn't the.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Most difficult, but it gets you back to getting your
hands wrapped, to getting in the gym, you know, to
having the night of feels, and backing the ring and
knocking off the ring rust.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
And it's really tough for a guy like AJ to
do that.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
One because of the fact that he's world class or
he had been for the last decade or so, and
two because of his name. AJ can't fight a lot
of no name guys, especially if they're not in the
top five ten at heavyweight, and those guys, even if
they don't have a big name, can be trouble. So
that is kind of the dichotomy of trying to get
(07:10):
an AJ fight. Well, if you were going to try
to check the boxes of someone that wasn't as difficult
as a top ten, top fifteen guy and then had
a big name as a quote unquote dress rehearsal as
someone that would get Aj back into the gym, maybe
have another fight after that, and then Tyson Fury. Jake
Paul makes the most sense in the world. And it
(07:31):
doesn't make any sense the fight itself, but it makes
sense in this crazy crossover scene that we have. I mean,
I can't even believe I'm saying that in any way,
shape or form, AJ fight makes sense.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
But for what Eddie wants, someone that's.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Not as difficult, so maybe a shorter round fight and
someone to get him just going again and get his
mindset back into the boxing mindset. Jake Paul would definitely
fit that. And again, if it's on Netflix, that's a
may fight.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So the decisions on him or do you guys already know, Like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I think that this. I mean, there are a lot
of conversations at the moment, you know, there's conversations with
his excellency about that plan. In twenty twenty six. Of course,
there's a couple of preliminary Jake Paul discussions.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That four days ago, a couple of preliminary Jake Paul discussions.
This is from four days ago to now where we
have finalizing a deal. Something's happened in those four days
to take those discussions from preliminary to finalizing. And the
(08:38):
only thing I can think of is that they either
got a clearance through his own to have AJ fight
on Netflix, or that this is going to be on
his own with Jake and AJ, which again I don't
know why it would be reported that it would be
on Netflix had they not discussed already moving it to
I think that this is closer to being AJ and
Jake on Netflix than people really even think right now.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We keep going, but it's a.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Rice against time now to kind of get those like,
you know, if we're going to do a deal with
His Excellency that that's imminent obviously ben Ubank next week,
if we're going to fight Jake Paul, I mean, he'd
want to probably announce an opponent next week or in
the next week or so. If we're going to.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Four days ago.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Again, if we're going to fight Jake, he'd want to
announce upon it in a week. Yeah, because you're thirty
days away from December twelfth now or thirty one days,
and that date seems to be a likely option. And
then December nineteenth, which I look on that calendar. I
don't see a ton of big fights happening on December nineteenth,
And again, Jake likes to do these these fights on Fridays,
(09:38):
not Saturdays. With Netflix, those two dates are wide open.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
We're running out of time if we're going to do
something this year, and if we're going to do something
this year, we'll be decided in the next week.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Is he has he been in camp already? Has he
been training?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, he's just in camp now, you know, so he'd
be ready to fight in a couple of weeks. Notice
it in an eight round sort of easy ish fight.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
But if you want, you'd be ready.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
To go on a couple of weeks. Notice on an
eight round, easy ish fight. I don't know what the
fight will look like, but that seems like signaling. To
talk about a Jake Paul fight. Eight rounds would make
some sense because Jake has been going ten now for
a while, so maybe they do ten. But again, just
something to get aj back. Signaling is what I'm seeing.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Once a championship fight over twelve rounds, it's likely we'll
see that one in the beginning of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, I would imagine if he's in an eight rounder,
he's going to take a pick cut, like he's.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
The money's not The Money's not really the motivator here, Marcus.
It's more just getting into the groove of like returning.
Like if you come back after a year and a
half and you're in a tough championship fight against a
guy that fourt three months ago and he's on a
good run, it's like, you know, of course, the money
is always a motivator, but he's got he's always doing
(10:55):
all right. You know, this is more about the final
run in his career where we can get the most
out of his ability and just be one hundred percent
at the key moments, at the big times.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Again, you hear the way, dude, I'm getting I mean again,
they're saying finalizing a deal, so that should be convincing enough,
but the way Eddie is talking here, I'm getting more
and more convinced because he's talking about, you know, really
getting the most out of this last run. It's pretty
clear that we all know that this is gonna be
AJ's you know, last run at of title, his last
couple of fights as a pro. And with that being said,
(11:31):
how do you get the most out of maximizing his
name and his value in fights that may not be
as dangerous for him. You throw him in there with
Jake Paul to start, because Jake's got a bigger name
than damn near everybody else in boxing, besides AJ besides Canelo.
Why not have them both in the ring together. Then,
depending on how he looks, he fucking obliterates Jake and
(11:54):
it doesn't go past three rounds, then you move on
and his name has gotten bigger because he's the guy
that destroyed Jake Paul, not just beat him, destroyed it.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Do you think an announcement will be made next week?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I don't know. I think probably maybe early the week off.
Obviously it's ben U Bank next week, so there's a
lot going on. And what we Friday now, so you know,
there's nothing that's imminent to be signed, but there's a
lot of conversations that are happening right now.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
This interview is four days ago. He said nothing eminent.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Something's changed in those four days, and he said probably
an announcement early next week.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
As we sit here, it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Is Wednesday, November twelfth. Eddie does have codder Ben and
Chris Hubank Junior this Saturday. This is probably if this
is going to happen, you're gonna see an announcement probably
on Monday the seventeenth, Tuesday the eighteenth.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Or hell, they might just announce the damn thing tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Since it's been reported now from Mike ibagro over at
The Ring Magazine, I'm literally checking my Twitter continually, like
go through this video to see if there are any.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Update because it being finalized is the only thing left
to do here.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Because of now we're in the coming up to the
second week in November, probably early to mid December would
be preferable.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
December twelfth, December nineteenth.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I know there's contract stipulations with AJ with he's exclusive
to deign, but have they reached out? Did they reach
out this week? Like is that a possibility?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, I've spoken to Nakisa a few times on it.
I mean, there's nothing to report to you that it's
closed or you know, there's a lot of hoops to
jump through. Of course, AJ is exclusive to his own
We also work very closely with his excellency and although
we have no contract with him, we're in talks for
big fights next year. Of course, Tyson Fury being one
(13:48):
of them. So we'd definitely give him the respect of
making sure that he was aware of the plan and
you know, part of that plan as well. But at
the moment, you know, there's nothing major to report on
that would we take the fire absolutely.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
And there you go.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
That's as simple as I mean, it's not simple. Right,
Eddie is talking about other stuff they have going on
with AJ. They're talking about the the Zone and Netflix barrier.
I'm pretty sure Ag his excellency was the one that
kind of proposed that AJ fight Jake Paul to get
rid of Jake.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
What Jack Baul doing in boxing. It's good for boxing
to have young generation. I am against some kinds of
fight you do. I want to tell you example and surprise.
I am thinking me and him to doing him against Joshua.
Now Joshua, if he just destroy him, it will be
good for me. The Headachuf Jack Ball will go from
(14:47):
my mind. If if Jack Baldwin, I will know that
Joshua is finished and Jack Baul and Jack Paul deserves
to be ranking and deserve to have your chat on boxing.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Right.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I thought fifty fifty in this situation, I wanted ninety
ninety one.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And that Jake and HG met on this entire you know,
idea that that fight could potentially happen. So I don't
think that would be an issue. It really looks like
it just comes down to the network. And again that
word that that phrasing finalizing just tells me that this
is closer than people think and that maybe the network's
not a massive issue.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I mean, my estimations of Jake Paul would go through
the roof if he if he signs the fight Ans
and Joshua, because I just can't believe in my mind
that he would do something like that. I mean, Javonte
was a smart one because of his size, Like you know,
I think actually he would have had a lot of
success against Jake Paul, but the size is a problem.
But this would just be you know, like, if Jake
(15:50):
Paul was to take the fight with aj you'd really
have to maybe carry his balls in a wheelbarrow on the.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Legitimately, I said this, this is how it would be.
But let's now talk about the totality of this fight.
This would earn Jake a ton of respect in the
boxing game with boxing fans that think he has rigged
fights fixed fights, whatever else, which is not true.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But the ones that.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Also think he takes easy fights, or doesn't fight boxers,
or doesn't fight boxers in their prime, or name the
thing that they don't like, this would quell all of that.
And that might be why Jake is crazy enough to
do it. That might be the reason he does it
is because it checks every single box that he would
potentially want to see for this fight. It gives him
(16:34):
a shit ton of money. It's dangerous, so people respect him.
It's dangerous, so people watch it and are interested in it.
And if he does, in some way perform better than
people expect, then he gets another badge of honor outside
of just taking the fight.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Now, the fight.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Itself is a fucking ridiculous one for Jake Paul. It
is a guy. He is never at any sort of
comparison of a fighter. Two right, He's fought guys smaller
than him. He's fought guys, you know, somewhat same size,
and then you know, Mike was a lot heavier, but
that was not really because Mike was fifty eight. There
has not been a guy that has every statistical attribute
(17:13):
that Jake doesn't have. Height, size, power, usually Jake separator
is his power and his size. You're talking about a
guy that's somewhat still you know, I wouldn't say AJ's
in his prime, but somewhat still relatively.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Good for what he is.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
He's still a pro boxer. He is still at the
top of the game in terms of top ten in
the world, and he's a guy that's for sure more
dangerous than anyone Jake has ever seen. Sparred all of it.
AJ is a destroyer, no pun intended. That's what he
is at his best. If Jake were to beat Anthony Joshua,
(17:51):
that would be almost legacy killing them. I'm not gonna lie.
That would be awful. But that's like pie in the
sky scenario, because when I sit down and I think
about fight, the one thing that can't leave my brain
is I know it was a different fight. I know
it was a different way. I know it was a
different Jake Paul. But he couldn't hurt Tommy Fury. He
couldn't beat Tommy Fury, and Tommy Fury's nowhere near the
(18:12):
level AJ is. And maybe Boxing Masters doesn't work out
that way, but it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't
compute up here logic and reason, don't say on any way,
Jake Paul wins this fight and maybe doesn't even come
out of the fight standing, and what Eddie said there
should strike a real reality into anyone that thinks this
is some exhibition kind of play about AJ's not going
(18:33):
to go in there and play with Jake Paul. He's
not going to go in there and play the game
or whatever you think is about to happen. He's going
to go in there and try to kill him within
the rules of the Marcus of Queensberry been doing this
a lot longer. Experience is there, power's their skill is there.
With all that being said, and I do believe AJ
could and probably should knock Jake Paul out. But if
this thing does get finalized and we get a date
and this happens in December, and Jake Paul not only
(18:55):
gets to the fight where you know it's fight night,
he's walking to the ring. If he's I would say
more than three rounds, that's a victory. And I'm not
saying a victory as far as like he wins the fight,
but that is respectable. That would and I think many
people's estimation be like, Okay, that's fucking crazy today. If
(19:16):
he survived the whole fight, that would be unthinkable for
someone of his you know, relatively new to boxing skill set.
And I say new to boxing, he's been doing it
for years now, but not on the same level or
anywhere near the same level of aj You're talking about
a former heavyweight champion of the world. On any other universe,
(19:37):
on any other world, in any other universe, this doesn't
make sense. We live in the craziest offshoot timeline in
this universe dimension where the offset, where the offshoot Earth,
where all the crazy shit happens, I'm telling you, And
never would I ever thought this fight would have happened
(19:58):
when this whole you know, crossover influencer boxing thing happen.
But if this is real and they actually finalize this,
this is going to be detrimental to Jake Paul's health,
I think, And I'm kind of shocked that they actually
like his team Nikisa. Those people fair play, They let
their fighter decide, and Jake is is headstrong on these
(20:20):
things and he understands the value in being the underdog here.
But I'm surprised they're letting this one happen, especially when
you're preparing for Jervonte Davis. You're sparring one hundred and
thirty one hundred and thirty five hundred and forty hundred
and forty seven pounders to then try to in a
matter of you know, if it were going to go
down a month from today, you're talking four weeks maybe
(20:43):
five weeks to change everything about your camp. You were
probably in the process of cutting weight for a November
fourteenth fight, which would have been in two days to
now having to put the weight back on.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
That's a lot, man, That's a lot.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
And then at the end of the road, your reward
is going and fighting Anthony Joshua, who the last time
a guy that wasn't as good or was very green
in boxing and by the way, was two hundred and
sixty five pounds and sixty four stepped in with him.
Aj absolutely destroyed Francis in Ghanu. Speaking of Francis, what
(21:19):
a fucking bag fumble from Francis and Gano. A guy
that felt disrespected by the offer apparently or the inclination
that he'd fight Jake Paul that he was above that.
But the guy that knocked him flat out cold is like,
sure Jake wants to challenge himself, come get this work.
I respect the hell out of Jake for doing this.
I would not have advised it. I don't think he
(21:40):
should do it. I think it's gonna end very badly
for him. And I don't mean just on the night.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I think this is.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I mean, this is the most dangerous fight you could take,
like detrimental to future health type of situation. Because again,
like Eddie said, AJ's not gonna come in there and
play around. He's gonna take this as serious as he needs.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
To, for sure.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
But that's all I got Right now. I'm looking on Twitter.
I don't see anything new. We're in the finalizing a
deal stage. I am interested, and you know why because
it's dangerous because it invokes the idea that Jake's going
to get absolutely fucking flat lined, which the people that
don't like him are going to.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Watch to see. It invokes the boxing versus Jake thing. Again.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It's heavyweight boxing, it's Anthony Joshua, it's a crazy chaotic matchup,
and everybody I think will tune into this even more
so than they would have for Jake and Gervontae. Those
are my thoughts. If anything new happens, I'll update you guys,
But this thing is is, like I said, right on
the one yard line. I know that Jake Paul Canelo
(22:43):
Alvarez fit was in the same kind of right at
the one yard line thing before Canelo ended up signing
with Turkey. Maybe something like that happens in this case.
I'm not sure, but regardless. The announcement is from The
Ring magazine and Mike Coppinger that AJ and Jake Paul
are finalizing a deal set for December Miami, Netflix heavyweight
(23:04):
pro bout Eddie Hearn saying maybe eight round or something
like that. What really happens here, I don't have those answers,
but I feel like we're gonna get a very very soon,
so I guess we'll find out
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