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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, folks, we are back on the way concept
presented by The Ring magazine, and today we got some
insight into the training camp for Jervonte Tank Davis and
what he and potentially his team are the most concerned
about with Jake Paul and what Jake Paul could be
the most concerned about with Javonte Davis. As we know,
big exhibition coming up November fourteenth. We are going to
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do a live stream watch party for that. I don't
know in what way, but we got to make it special.
You guys know when I do these watch parties, they
are insane. We want to have some guests. We may
do a twenty four hour I'm not sure leaving the
comments what you want to see, but we may be
seeing the formulation of a game plan and tactic from
this training footage from Javonte Davis, and I think I
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may understand the key of what they want to do,
how they want to go about it, and why Jake
Paul might be in more trouble than I originally thought.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What do I mean the breakdown?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Let's go all right?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So Calvin Ford, coach for Javonte Davis, has been for
pretty much since started boxing, Sat now with Marcos over
at Fight Hub. Shout out to Marcos for the footage. Man,
He's always killing the game with interviews and everything else.
He sat down with Marcos and they talked about Tank
and potentially what he will do after the Jake fight,
why he's doing the Jake fight, and what their biggest
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concerns are. Which your biggest concerns end up being what
you turn into your biggest weapons, that things are most
concerned about. You look to exploit because that's usually the
other person's greatest strength and behind is their greatest weakness.
So I'm gonna take a look at this interview and
show you guys why I think Jake might actually be
in a little more trouble than I originally thought with
this fight, and why I'm gonna be more excited to
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see what Tank brings if the mindset is where I
think it is.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
So how are we with with everything? Man? How's Tank being.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
A good hairspace? Great hairspace looking good? You know, just
trying to go through our stages. You know, it's like
pre camp in camp, you know, get them from We
ain't foot in the while, you know what I'm saying.
We was getting prepared for a Roach. Then yeah, blessed
with this fight. That's how I look at it.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You know, interesting comment there that they were getting ready
for the Roach rematch and then this fight was you know,
he said they got blessed with this fight, but this
fight came through. So the plan was actually to go
in and rematch Lamont Roach, which is something that I
think he should have done. I think they they, you know,
for Tank's legacy, for you know, just the sanctity of
pro boxing when it comes to a world champion and
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what they do with that world championship belt. I think
he should have taken the Lamont Roach rematches.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It seems like they were going to.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
But the obvious reason that everyone I think knows why
they didn't is because Netflix and a Jake Paul fight
come with a massive bag. Like there's probably no comparison
to what Tank will make to fight Lamont Roach or
anybody else compared to Jake Paul. Whether you like that
or not, it's the truth. He is a money fight
and so his Tank. And that's why they're gonna do
a shit ton of viewers on Netflix and why they're
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gonna both make a shit ton of money. So the
point I want to take away from that is that
they were starting to get their minds and body ready
for Lamont Roach, which means the Tank was in somewhat
of a serious pre camp right, somewhat of a serious,
you know, workout regiment, getting himself in shape. Not the
Tank is super out of shape out of camp.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
But this means that he was mentally preparing for a
fight regardless. It's not hopping off the couch Tank, which
is not what you want to see, even against Jake
Paul because the least serious you take Jake, and I've
said this about everybody that's fought him, ones that don't
take him serious, the ones that say he's a YouTuber
and everything else, they end up losing, or they end
up looking like, oh wait a second, this guy was
a little better than I thought. They end up either
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getting taken by surprise or actually sometimes losing because they
don't realize that Jake actually takes as serious. So this
is good to hear. Just already right off the rip,
they were already doing something surprise.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
So tell me, you know, how when did you hear
about this?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I've been going back and forth for years, Tank and Jake,
they've been going at it for years, and uh, it
would have happened sooner.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
But we have hiccups in life, That's what I call it, hiccups.
But they lessons to learn from. But we're back on
track and keeping them moving.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
When you heard about the fight where you're like, wait, what,
like we're doing what?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Actually, when I heard about the fight, they called me
and said what you thought about the fight?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I say, the fight doable?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You get what I'm saying because I watched Tanky for
years and I watched other young men's and.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Jim's.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
You don't deal with big guy, you know what I'm saying. Yes,
he's big. To me, it's like Jake having his first
open fights. If anybody know about the ambages going open,
then you go pro. So you know he's a bare
fight a guy that does have skills.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So that's that's an honest, I think assessment from Calvin
Ford on where Jake is and why he thinks his
fight's doable. I mean, I think everybody is under the
same understanding that skill for skill, Jake Paul is not
the same level of boxer as Tank Davis. It's not
even remotely close when it comes to the skill of
the sport. Now, what makes up for the difference in
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skill is Jake's massive size and tanks lack thereop Jake's
power versus Tank's skill, experience, timings be all that. But
Jake still has some stuff right. He still can crack.
He's still for his size, is a little quicker than
people think, and he has a decent enough jab on him.
But they see something more than maybe something. They see
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a lot of things that they can take advantage of.
I'm sure Jake and their team says the same thing.
But you heard Calvin specifically say I've seen what smaller
guys can do with bigger guys in the gym. And
Calvin's been around not just boxing Tank whoever. He's been
around the highest level of boxing for a long time now.
I'm sure he's seeing countless hours of sparring footage for
fighters of completely different sizes, and how you have to
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in those sessions, not necessarily in a real fight, but
in those sessions you have to problem solve in a
different way. And that's what they're going to have to
do here to get Jake, to break Jake down, They're
going to have to problem solve in a different way
because they can't get hit clean too many times, and
they can't stand in front of him in trade punches.
I just can't happen, So you have to do something
else differently. But he's also a little concerned, which is
a good Again. I like a coach that shows, even
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in an exhibition like this, who you know, whatever you
want to call the fight. I like a coach that
every time you gloves up, they take it serious, whether
it's sparring, whether it's a fight, whether exit whatever, your reputation, legacy,
if you want to call it that. For Tank, all
these things that you've already built professionally are on the line,
so you have to take it that seriously. So just
as much as he sees weaknesses and what they look
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at for this fight for Jake, they see stuff that
concerns them. And it's not just powers, not just size
of something else. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
My only concern is you know, the gloves. You understand
what I'm saying, because we don't fight in twelve ounce gloves.
We don't use twelve ounce gloves. That's training gloves. You
know what I'm saying. I'm like that's two pounds away
from uh Jake. He fights in tens tank fighting as
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so he's.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Meant to say two ounces, not two pounds.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
He losing four ounces.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
So my thing is I said, they said put Tank
and X put him in tens.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
That makes a fight more interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
You get what I'm saying, and we'll go from there
because I understand, and I bought that question up to
one of his hands, Dave, No, we don't want to.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Do it's supposed to be expedition. What you know, Nan,
y'all went to win expedition.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I'm dead, So I don't actually disagree with Calvin Ford here.
I said this when they made the exhibition in the
first place. I was like, why doesn't Tank get to
wear the gloves that he normally wears. If we're doing
an exhibition and the weight doesn't matter, then why does
the size of the glove have to match?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
If they don't have to weigh the same thing, why
do the glove sizes have to be the same. We're
not none of this counts on a professional record anyway.
So let Tank fight in the gloves he normally fights in,
and let Jake fight in the gloves he normally fights in.
Jake already has a massive power advantage. Putting Tank in
twelve ounce gloves and Jake and twelve ounce gloves, it's
not the same thing, really, is it, right? Because Jake
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trains in sixteen ounce gloves, eighteen ounce gloves, twenty ounce gloves.
You're already on the on the size part of this.
You're already giving up a massive disadvantage. If your tank,
by being sixty pounds less than the guy. Now granted
your skills, your ability, all that on your side, you
have that as an advantage for yourself. But why don't
we try to keep the things that we can at
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least somewhat similar to how they normally fight, and that
would be the gloves. I think that it would be
I agree with Calvin. I think it would be great
if Tank had to fight in eights and Jake had
to fight in tents because it's an exhibition and they
already fight in those same weight gloves. Anyway, to put
them in the same weight is actually given Jake another advantage,
if it makes sense, like you put Tank, who's already
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smaller and a glove that's already heavier than he normally
fights in to hit a guy that's sixty pounds bigger.
That's advantage Jake on every front. And the advantage for
Tank is just experience skill ability. But like when it
comes to the rule set of things, it all favors Jake.
There needs to be a little bit more given to
Tank and the rule set to make it, like Calvin said,
a little bit more fair for what they're normally doing.
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If we're talking about ten ounce gloves for Jake and
eight for Tank, that's not a major difference, but it
is when we're talking about how Tank normally fights and
eights and jumps to twelves to fight Jake. His arms
aren't used to that, his weight, his stature isn't gonna
be able to carry that. The gloves are gonna feel
a lot head year. Again, I think that's just fully
advantage Jake.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I said this in my first video. They should have
done it. I thought it was gonna be like eights
and fourteen's, but eights and tens. I would even be like, yeah,
that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
All these restrictions, But you want to be great. Being
great is really pushing the amazoge. You get what I'm saying,
You know, Tank don't really care, you know, So when
I bought this up, he said, dag facts.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
So again, you know he can wait at tens, and
we waited eights, then we got a fight.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You know the uh I agree with him. I think
that's the most fair way to do it.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Wait, how's that gonna work out?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Like?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
We got him at one one ninety five. I thought
it was gonna be one ninety So they game five.
So again they keep giving, giving giving. You know, I
ain't want to bother.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And the reason a guy like Tank keeps giving and
giving and giving is again I circle back to this
because it's the only logical answer, is because this is
a major, major bag. That's why he's giving up so much.
Did he give up that much for Ryan Garcia? Hell no,
Ryan Garcia was weight drink. Now again, I know it's
a completely different circumstance, but Ryan Garcia, he got weight
drained down to thirty five, had a weight rehydration put
on him, and still Tank was able to go out
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there and do what he did. But Ryan Garcia made
all those things happen because he knew.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Tank was a money fight.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
So it's kind of Tank taking the Ryan Garcia role
in this fight where he is kind of the B side,
You're not even kind of he is, and so he's
having to make a lot of concessions to get this
and get this back.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
When you see this fight, do you see like Tank
just having his way with Jake, like giving like no.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
No, no, I'm gonna tell you this. This is what
I tell Tank. Tank said it in an interview. I said, Tank,
y'all going there doing y'all thing.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Woooooo. I said, he ain't giving you nothing.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Let's look at it. Look at all the persons he fought.
He ain't giving him nothing, especially when he thought Tyson
took a lot. He stripped Tyson of a lot of things.
And I said, he ain't given you nothing. You mean
to tell me you start hitting Jake with some shit,
he ain't gonna fight back, he said, fat.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
So I say you gotta take him seriously. See what
I'm saying, because.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
He talked about he had you on a hit miss
before this fight even happened. So his mental is on you.
And he said it in an interview. How you think
about something, make it come out and look where we ad.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Now He's not wrong man that listen.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
As much as everybody has jumped on this fight and
talked about you know, exhibition circus whatever, this, there is
one reason and one reason only that Jake does these
type of fights. Yes, I mean well two reasons. One
is a major bag. Two is to take legacy from
these professional world champion former world champion fighters, boxers, fighters
and boxers. Really did it with Tyron woodleyh he did
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it with Ben Askron. He did it with Mike Tyson,
well kind of, but that's the entire goal. He had
Javonte on this you know, quote unquote hit list for
four years because he wanted to take a shine the legacy.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I'm better than he is.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I'm a better boxer than Jervonte, i beat Mike Tyson,
I'm on Mike Tyson's record. All that right, that's what
he wants to do. So again I will say, if
you come in and take him lightly, he can not
only ruin your night, he can ruin your legs. And
that's what you can't have happen if you're Javonte Davis.
And this is why I like the way Calvin Ford
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is talking about this, not like yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
We're gonna go and do our thing.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Well, no, we have to lock in here because yes
it's a great bag, Yes they're treating us well, but
on fight night, that guy's not gonna treat you well,
and he's not just gonna stand in there. He's gonna
try to hurt you. He's gonna try to knock you out.
And he's seventy pounds sixty pounds bigger than you. So
I like the attitude. I guess I should say that
they're taking with this now. Tank has not necessarily displayed
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that same mindset, So I hope that's what they're working
on in camp. Tanks like, ah, you're a clown YouTuber,
La da dah.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Can't do that. You cannot do that with Jake.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Underestimate him and it will hurt you or hit you
with something that you weren't supposed to get hit with.
There'll be a moment in the fight that goes a
little differently than it's supposed to. That's what you can't have.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Half, I think, you know, like the the boxing fan
is looking at this maybe and thinking, like Tank, there's
levels of this. Tank has been fighting his whole life, Like, yeah,
the way is a big difference, but like Tank's a
mean guy in there, like once he sees read, he's
gonna go after him, and like want to see.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
We don't know his performance of this fight. You know,
Tanking talking this way, and I understand now.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Why he's talking that way. He's been doing it for
so long.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
You know, if you work a regular job, you've been
doing it so long, and you see it's like you
want to get bored.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
So this fight, Mike, wake him up. Get what I'm saying.
This fight might bring that that beast back.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
You always talk about I don't want to do certain
things cause I need my beast to be in me,
you know, and being around me.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
He's at a good place fight now, great place.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
That's the thing that you worry about with Tank, and
not only as his career goes forward, but just for
this fight. How much motivation does he have outside of
just you know, the money that's involved in it, to
get into that mindset of a boxer again. He's talked
about it in World Championship fight, Frank Martin and Lamont
Rose talk about I don't I don't like fighting. I
don't want to do this anymore. I want to go
to therapy and get all this anger I got out
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so that you know, I can go raise my kids
and that's a great, super awesome thing. And fighting, you know,
when you're not doing it as a need anymore, and
if you're not motivated to be a fighter, and that's
that killer instincts not in your head, it's probably not
for you because the other guy has it and he's hunger.
When you get to that point, you probably should exit
the sport. So we're gonna have to see again. We've
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had questions about Tank in a lot of fights recently,
about his commitment to the sport and commitment to just
being able to go into that tank mode right, go
into that killer mode. If he can't access it versus
shake that again, that would cause a ton a ton
of spiraling and all types of bad stuff that they
don't want to have happened. But anyway, the takeaway from
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this interview, I'm not gonna show the whole thing, but
that small segment of an interview is that there are
that's an honest response from coach Ford about what Tank's
doing in camp, how his mindset is, how coach Ford
is there to kind of reshape the way he thinks
about this and what their concerns are. Now, let's take
a look at our first footage from tanks camp versus
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shake and see what he's been working on.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
See, bro, this is why Tank pisses me off.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Man, This right here is why Tank frustrates me to
no end. Look at the talent and the skill and
the effortless power and snap and rotation and change of
direction and angle cutting that Tank possesses. And I know
I'm glazing a little bit here, but just hear me out.
This dude is nasty. Tank has been As a prospective
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viewer of boxing, Tank has been one of the most
entertaining styles of fighters I have watched in my lifetime.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
He is just.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Snapping, effortless power. And again, Tank is about five foot nothing,
five foot one two whatever. But look at where all
these punches are aimed. Everything to the body, everything to
the body, chopping downstairs, chopping, chopping, brick can now this,
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even his shots upstairs here, that's still a body shot.
On Jake Paul, everything's a body shot he's thrown. Even
when he's changing the levels of the shot, that's a
body shot. That's a body shot. That's a body shot.
That tells me what I kind of originally thought and
this is just a clip. We don't have any insight
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into into full game plans and sparring and.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Things like that.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
But this is a drill obviously on the heavy bag,
where he's one changing the variation of shot right, the
speed and power of shot, changing the angle of the punch,
but going for time. So this is necessarily a ton
of technique work. It may not even have anything to
do with what they're trying to bring to the Jake fight,
but when I watch it, I see a that's targeting
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the body, and it's the best thing that Tank could
do for this fight. I mean, trying to go headshot
for headshot with Jake Paul when he's probably Jake's seven
inches taller than he is. I'm assuming he's gonna have
a bit of a reach, even though Tank has a
kind of freakis reach for his height.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I don't think that's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And again, you're at eye level with Jake's belly button
damn near, so you're gonna have to be able to
land shots right there on the waistline. And it's probably
the best idea if you actually want to knock Jake
out in this fight, if you actually want a game plan,
because again it's an exhibition, but if you want a
game plan to get him out of there, you have
to attack the body. Not that it's necessarily gonna hurt
Jake to the body and he's gonna cripple, but it's
gonna slow him down, or at least that's the idea,
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is to slow him down, to drop his hands, and
that way that we're in the whatever, six, seventh, eighth
round of this fight and those hands start to fall
a little bit, and Jake's gas tank is being tested,
and then tank when he closes distance, and he will
have to close distance damn near the entirety of the fight.
Unless Jake's just like walking forward the whole time. I
don't think that'll happen. Then you'll see tank. If he's
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heavier with his volume because hands are gonna be heavy,
but his volume usually lacks. Then see him step in
and go upstairs. But the body work will be key
tanks already, you know. Again, his natural level will be
around the body shots too. It's gonna be a little
difficult I think for Jake to punch down and hit
him cleanly, especially if he doesn't do it early, especially
if he can't get Tank to respect him early. He's
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gonna be tough unless, like I said, Tank just stands
there and brawls with him, which I don't see happening
at all. So if Tank can make a miss, get inside,
work the body, make him pay there, head movement off center,
pivot out, be slick, and do it again and again
and again. That is when we could see a potential
Tank Davis knockout. And if that happened, if Tank Davis
actually knocks Jake out, he won't get the credit for it, like, oh,
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that's what you were supposed to do. You're, you know,
a world champion boxer. But that's fucking ridiculous. It would
be ridiculously hard for Tank to actually knock Jake out.
I'm just that's like seventy pound different, sixty pound different.
That means something. And Jake's not some guy that's never
thrown punches. He said, relative novel this when it comes to,
you know, skill level that Tank has. But still he
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knows how to protect himself. And again, his body structure
allows for some mistakes to happen that he wouldn't have
to pay for like he would if he was one
hundred and thirty five pounds point being, I would be
impressed very if Tank knocked him out cold or dropped
him with some you know, heard him badly because how
much bigger Jake is, and he knows how to operate
in a boxing ring. It's not like me getting in
there with Javonte, I should be sparked out in thirty seconds.
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But Jake has a decent amount of professional fights, has
beat some guys that had a decent record on his
on his actual resume, and understands what he's doing in there.
This is all Jake does is trained boxing. It has
for the last six seven years. So, like I said,
if Tank knocks him out, which if his head is
in the right place, not just literally but metaphorically, his
mind is in the right place, he switched on and he's.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Able to get Jake vulnerable to the body.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Like could change very very quickly. But that's what I
got Folks. Let me know what you think in the comments.
Are you liking the mindset of team Jervonte Davis. Are
you liking where his coach, Calvin Ford's headspace is and
they're not taking Jake lightly, but they're also seeing weaknesses
there they can take advantage of, maybe like we see
in this training footage. Again, big shouts to Fight Hub
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for getting this footage courtesy of them. Maybe it's the
body shots that Tank needs to get to. Maybe it's
Jake potentially not understanding the power even at one hundred
and thirty five pounds that Tank has.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I like this for Tank Davis.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I like this.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And the other thing is if Tank is talking about retirement,
lamont roach Jake and then we're done. What if this
training camp and maybe a knockout performance from Tank Davis
gets him back into the boxing mindset, scratch that itch
and gets him to want to take tough, big time
box office in his weight class fights. And never know
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what can happen. But Deronte Davis is in training camp
for Jake. Paul Calvin Ford says, they got a healthy
fear of some things, but they're ready to go in
and take advantage of some weaknesses.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
What are they Will they do it?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Don't have those answers, but I guess we'll find out