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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, folks, we are back on the way concept
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look at something I'm finding more and more interesting about
the Jake Paul Tank Davis fight. It's the way Tank
Davis is preparing and potentially the way Tank Davis could
I can't believe that I'm even thinking this, and potentially
the way that Tank Davis could knock Jake Paul out.

(00:20):
This is changing my mind on a lot of the
things around this fight and how it potentially will go.
I'm seeing Tank Davis in the gym, and I'm seeing
bits and pieces of what they want to do, and
I'm not necessarily convinced that this is going to go
completely differently than I already thought, but I am starting
to flip on what I think can happen here. Tank
Davis is taking Jake Paul more seriously than potentially I

(00:43):
thought he would, and usually that's the downfall of everyone
that fights Jake. But there's a reason why, and it's
not just because the money he's guaranteed. But it seems
like there's a little bit extra going on that I
need to explain. But before we start, before I break
this all down, guys, I am going to be alive
for this fight on November fourteenth, probably twelve plus hours.
We're gonna have an insane live stream. We're gonna do

(01:04):
a rewatch together of all the fights that we can
on YouTube from Jake from Tank. It's gonna be unbelievable,
and we're gonna have guests live on the show making
their picks for the fight. We're gonna have insane games,
maybe some giveaways in chat, all types of crazy things
leading up to this fight, and then we may even

(01:24):
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Speaker 2 (01:36):
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(03:48):
into the breakdown, all right, So, first off, I haven't
seen much out of what's going on with Jake's side
of things, and we'll keep breaking this down. I think
we're about three and a half way away from the fight.
The only thing that I've seen out of Jake Paul's
training as of right now is this clip right here,
Jake Paul doing some work with ray Ford. Ray Ford

(04:10):
in eighteen one and one super featherweight only lost to.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Nick Ball high level guy.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
And this is what the only thing that I've really
seen is just an interaction from them potentially after sparring,
where you know, there's music playing, so I can't really
put it out there, but I'm not exactly sure what
they're going over. Jake looks to his team, He's like,
you know, maybe I gotta get my head off center
line more. That's what he's looking at his team and saying,

(04:36):
you know, hey, I need to slip more punches. And
then ray puts like the high guard up, like hey,
when you're here, yeah, yeah, when you're here, don't even
do that.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
And go to the body. I can't really read his.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Lips here, and then you know that's where your body's open.
Something I'm not sure exactly what they're talking about, But
it seems like Ray has given him some pointers on
like something he did wrong or something that Jake was
not super happy with the way he performed in their
spar But this is literally the only thing I have
seen out of Jake Paul's camp in regards to this
fight specifically. There's been a lid on basically everything they're

(05:15):
doing right now in Jake's camp. I'm sure there'll be
more videos and more training come out as we get
closer and closer to the fight, but it seems like
maybe in this session, Ray probably put it on Jake
a little bit. Not that again, it matters because they're
not fighting each other in sparring is sparring, it's.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
How you get better.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
But Jake's you know, obviously sparring smaller guys, seeing not
only what weapons they bring to a sparring session, because
you know they're not as big in stature, it's gonna
be a sixty pound weight difference. Probably actually a little
bit of update on that today as well. Tank's looking
a little bigger than I've normally seen him. We'll talk
about that in a second, But obviously Jake is gonna
work with some of the better guys in the smaller
weight classes to get prepared for what Tank could potentially bring. Now,

(05:53):
Tank is a is a one of one in that respect,
so it's difficult sometimes to prepare yourself in that same way.
But on that same note, we have a couple new
things out from Tank Davis number one. It's not necessarily new,
but the last kind of work we've seen from Tank,
you know, just in general, is this video right here,

(06:21):
just chopping the bag, turning over shots, chopp into.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
The body, every shot to the mid section. Now, again
not to.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Read too much into things, but we go back to
this video and I don't know what's being said here
between Ray and Jake, but he's telling him, you know
something with the high guard, don't even do that. I'm
trying to draw a parallel between potentially what ray Ford
did to Jake in this bar and what could potentially
be going down in Tanks camp that can line up

(07:02):
the dots.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Again, we don't have a lot to go off.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Of what we generally think may happen in this fight,
is that Jake Paul will probably use his size, his frame,
and his power to try to land big shots, not
throw a ton of punches and not gas himself out
against Tank, who again this is an exhibition. Yes, they'll
be judges and someone I guess will win is what
they're saying. But does that mean that someone actually has

(07:24):
a win loss on the record. No, because you can't
sanction something like this in a profight. Tank, on the
other hand, who already is a low output puncher, is
going to look to utilize his speed, his head and movement,
his quickness, his agility, his angles, his footwork, his defense,
his defense to offense transition, and vice versa to catch
Jake when he does eventually open up with bigger punches

(07:44):
and make him pay. Also, he's going to look to
slow Jake down and potentially work him into those later
rounds to where Tank can still be explosive. And when
I look at this little exchange from Jake and ray
Ford again, I could be completely missing the read here.
Ray is either telling him this is what you need
to do or this is what I was able to
do to you because of we go back here, because
of this high guard, I was able to get to

(08:07):
your body something like that maybe, or it could be
again I could be just completely missing it. And then
you see this from Tank all body work, just hammers
to the body level, changes, head off, center, angle switch,

(08:27):
all that work in the bag.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
That was one of the more recent videos. We saw.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
One thing that we didn't really look at when watching
this video the first time is how much bigger Tank
looks now again, he is a small slider frame statued individual.
To begin with, Tank is a very small guy. If
you blinked, you might think this young man right here
is Tank David non Plan. But Tank is you know,
he's smaller. And this is why this fight is an

(08:51):
exhibition and why it's a bit of a shot in
the dark as to you know, why you even do
something like this. But we all know it's a lot
of money being involved in x y Z. Both guys
big time prize fighters, the big time prize on this one.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Again.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
We can talk about the legitimacy of it. We could
talk about how it helps the sport, how it hurts
the sport, to the cows come home. The bottom line
is these two guys pull better numbers than anybody in
the sport right now in the US, And regardless of
the circus nature of it, people are gonna watch.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I'm gonna watch.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
You guys are gonna watch, and that's just the state
of boxing where we're at. I think it's entertaining as
long as we all know what it is, which is
a money fight. I don't I wish that Tank would
relinquish his belt. I wish the WBA would strip him
because I don't think this is very fair to people
that are supposed to be the actual contenders in his
weight class for his belt. And that is what's the
actual sanctity of the sport. Argument should be about, is

(09:40):
that if Tank is the sitting champion, either he gives
his belt up or shouldn't be doing this in fighting challengers.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
That's really it.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
But as long as we're all on the same page,
that Tank can no longer say he's one of the
pound for pounds whilst doing these things and whilst holding
a belt when others are contending or someone to contend
for it.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
And that's fine.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I still think Tank's one of the most talented boxers
in the world. But you can't hold that title if
you're not actually defending your title.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Point anyway, But when we look at Tank in this
in this.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Like look at the shoulder definition not the Tank is
like ever really been, you know, crazy out of shape.
But I thought maybe coming into this Tank would be
a little bit skinnier, a little bit smaller, and that's
just not the case. I mean, look at I know
this is on impact the shoulder definition, but he's he
looks thicker. Pause he does though, he he looks like

(10:29):
he's put weight on. And I saw show Biz did
a video about this a couple of days ago, and
he looked at Tank's, you know, figure for the for
the photo shoots, which we'll take a look at now
as well. So here is Tank and Jake looking at each.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Other's posters, right, dick man, he's you look at the
actual poster now again.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
They obviously made Tank a lot bigger than he is
here in the poster, but you're not seeing him one
as cut up as you would normally see him. Obviously
to fight at his weight class. Hundred thirty five is
still at a little bit of a cut for Tank.
But you see even here he is a little bit
more broad, a little bit more filled out in the back, shoulders, arms.

(11:11):
The entire point I'm making here is that Tank is
loading up, making himself bigger, not too much, but making
himself more around his walkaround weight maybe one hundred and fifty,
maybe one hundred and sixty pounds or this fight because
he needs that power to knock Jake out. He still
has speed, still has ability, still has quickness, agility, all
of that, but this type of power he will need

(11:32):
to try to even knock a a two hundred and
probably on the night, two hundred and fifteen pound man out.
But it won't just be the size difference. It won't
just be him sitting down in his punches. It won't
just be the shots to the body from Tank all
that stuff. I'm painting a picture for you guys as
to how Tank can potentially do this, because I think
Tank is the more skilled guy, but I just think
Jake is so much bigger and he is more skilled

(11:54):
than people give him credit for, and he does possess
a bit of boxing IQ for his level that can
keep him safe in this kind of scenario. Because Hank
is one hundred and thirty five pounder, it's not like
he's a big guy. And Jake is a big guy,
and he can still, like I said, keep things somewhat
safe for himself if need be, and if he does
want to go for it, and there is moments where

(12:15):
Jake wants to use his weight and use his size,
which is probably what they want to do the entirety
of the fight. There are ways that Jervonte canencounter it.
Now bear with me as I do a little bit
of a walk down memory lane. Do we all remember
the Floyd Mayweather Logan Paul exhibition from way back? Now
it's been years and years. Do we remember one of
the moments that went super viral and people said Floyd

(12:37):
knocked Logan out then helped him up.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
That didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Logan never was knocked out by Floyd Mayweather punch and
then held up. But this was one of the keys
to the exhibition, to the fight was Logan using his
size and frame to smother Floyd even when he got
hit with punches, so that Floyd either couldn't follow up,
or that Logan could just put his weight on him,
make Floyd hold his weight, tire him out, and Logan
could take a rest. Remember this clip from way back,

(13:03):
right hand Logan falls in. This happened a lot during
their fight, and no, Logan is not knocked out here,
but this is something that happened so much in their
fight where Logan using his frame. Using his size, was
able to wear on Floyd, was able to frustrate him.
Floyd couldn't get to him with the jab. Logan's jab
was better than Floyd anticipated. Now, one thing I want

(13:24):
to show you about this clip. Maybe you missed it.
Floyd landed a punch here, and yes it may have
hurt Logan, but he wasn't as accurate as he wanted
to be. And this is where I think Jervonte in
some ways is even more accurate than Floyd. I know
it sounds crazy, but you think about Jervonte's punch output
versus his punch landing and what that punch does to people.
No one at this point expected Floyd to knock Logan out.

(13:46):
He was too old, too small, hands, too brittle, right,
And I don't mean that disrespectfully. I'm just mean Logan's
two hundred pounds. Let's watch this clip again. You know,
Logan again lean's on Floyd. Lloyd holds him there, but
you see Logan try to go to the lee hand
up or cut off the level change, big swing and
a miss with the right hand. Look at Floyd load
on his back foot and just I mean just barely miss.

(14:08):
What was a step in counter, upper cut lean bang,
which is the right punch to go to because Floyd
has the best boxing IQ maybe of anyone ever. He
just barely misses it. And even with a barely miss,
he still hits him with the punch. It's just not
as clean as he wants. Again, we're drawing all these
lines of comparisson and what potentially could happen. What if
I told you that exact sequence is what Jervonte Davis

(14:31):
is working right now in camp. Here is a recent
clip from Jervonte Davis's Instagram, and I think this is
exactly the type of thing you do to a guy
that's a little bit more green than you are, is
nowhere near the level of boxing that Davonte has, that's
the same experience or ability in my opinion. How do
you take advantage of his weight usually what would be

(14:51):
his strength? How do you take advantage of it? Well,
you make yourself bigger, like Davonte seems to be doing.
Doesn't have to cut weight, so he'll probably walk in
there a little bit bigger than his walking around weight.
It's a risk because you're still going a good amount
of rounds. How do you hold that weight still a
risk because you're still going I don't know if it's
eight or ten rounds, but you gotta hold that weight,
especially against a guy that's two hundred pounds. But it

(15:12):
also allows you to sit down on heavy punches. When
this same scenario think Logan Floyd happens in their fight.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Look at this training. You see this, You see Jake
there already. I love this.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
They're anticipating Jake in the clinch, looking to again put
his body weight on tank. Bigger man, use his size,
lean on you, weigh on you. And you see the
post in the frame from tank post frame hold hold, bang, lead,
hand up or cut and again. Something that's key here
is if they want to be in this position, they

(15:44):
have Jake laying on tank. They don't have Jake's hands
overhooking Tank's hands. Look at it's a very very subtle
little nuance in this back and forth, the difference between
this Tank's hands over the top and this Logan hands
over the top. Logan has his in an overhook. Floyd

(16:06):
has the under hook. He can't punch with the under hook.
He has to kind of stay there until he can
get his hand free and then go. But Hank Davis,
he has learned from Floyd, and he has learned in
multiple different situations where he's been the smaller man. He's
gonna overhook your hands. You go ahead and try to
clinch me. I'm getting that overhook because I'm gonna hold

(16:27):
your hands down. I'm gonna pin your arms to where
you can't punch. And then when I'm ready, I'm gonna release.
Boom with the upper cut up the middle, release bang,
boom underneath left hand.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Love that.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Here's the overlook at that overhook again right there, until
I'm ready. Off the lead foot, boom, pop the head
up and again here comes Jake.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Okay, we're in a tussle. We're in a tussle.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Lean on my lead foot, upper cut, left hand, roll
and hook left hand down the middle. That is good stuff.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Again.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
One of the things that we have seen Jake struggle with,
even in the Mike Tyson fight. If we go back,
one of the things Jake.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Has struggled with so much is his feet.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
His feet gets so wide and he gets a little
flat footed at times, and especially when he throws a
big power punch, his feet get a little stab. We
see here even the jab and the retreat off the jab.
He stabs him with the jab, but look at how
wide his feet are. If Jake tries to even potentially
throw a right hand here, there's no leverage on it,
so he has to get out of range and come back.

(17:33):
Now this time when he throws a step throw, but
look look where he throws that from. Look at the
off balance nature of this. Like, that's still a good
right hand, and honestly, if he lands it, I would
probably knock Tank out.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's because he's that big a dude.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
But he's so out of position here that if there
is a follow up to any of these punches, Jake's
either gonna have to go straight back or he's gonna
be hit with something. Now imagine same scenario. We get
this exchange right here, same spot, Bang bang, Jake's overthrown
the right hand slip bang bang. I'm not saying it's likely.

(18:06):
I'm just saying it's possible. There are things that if
you look at Jake's game, And I'm not saying that
these two sequences are everything in Jake's game. In this
Mike Tyson fight, It's not what I'm saying, but this
is a pattern that you recognize with Jake is that
when you do see him load up on shots, he
becomes very off balance, plant.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Throw, hit or miss.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
We're foot off the ground, all our weight on our
lead foot, and now we're having to push back off
that lead foot and almost jump back out of range
just to save ourselves from being in bad, bad spots.
That's the thing I'm saying. And this is why when
you talk about the green, kind of newer to boxing
nature of Jake, when things need to be regulated, when

(18:52):
he needs to go to something to get himself out
of trouble, he will revert back to the things that
have got him to the dance, which is the jab
overhand to the body overhand or step back overhand, and
he will throw everything he has behind it. Trust me,
I've seen it too many times. It will happen if
we get to a point where Jake's jab has been broken,
the range has been taken, and he's being pushed backward.

(19:14):
I don't know if I see that happening a lot,
especially early, but it could if we see Tank had
a bigger size, utilizing the body shots and frustrating Jake
by not being where he expects him to be and
making him overthrow and miss. Still It's hard for me
to believe a guy tank size is going to be
able to knock out Jake. But if there's a way,
they're working on the right ones. They have learned from

(19:36):
what happened in the Logan in Floyd fight, and we'll
do breakdowns on all this stuff as we lead up.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
And I thought this was special. I thought it was
interesting to see Tank.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I mean, he's kind of exposing how he wants to
knock out Jake, and he's also kind of exposing the
blueprint to do it. If you're gonna hurt Jake, you
have to catch him off guard. You have to lull
him to sleep with your timing and your power, and
you have to clip him when he's over extend and
did or when he tries to use his power, size
and frame to lay way and pray on the little guy,

(20:06):
and Tank also in this fight, has to be a
bit bigger than the little guy. I think I'm seeing
all those things happen right now, But maybe I'm making
too much of a big deal over nothing. Maybe these
little clips that I'm seeing and the things they're working
on they don't mean as much.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
And I think a guy like Tank.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Who seems to be able to bring his skill from
the gym into the ring, is going to be able
to capitalize on stuff like this. Where Jake does make
a lot of mistakes, there are moments where he can
be capitalized on. Tank, by the way, made some mistakes
in the LaMotte roach fight. I was wondering about his headspace.
But I'm starting to believe he's taking this more serious
than I thought, And for Jake Paul, that's very dangerous.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
So what do you guys think.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I'm starting to look and lean like Tank might be
able to have some opportunities to actually hurt Jake, knock
him out. I don't know about I'm still to rack
my brain and think one hundred and thirty five pound
one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty pound er can
knock out a guy with experience, with some skill and
as some ability in the boxing ring.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
That's two hundred and ten fifteen pounds. So don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
I'm still not ready to make that leap, but I'm
saying it's possible. If there's a guy to do it
at that lower weight class, it's probably Tank Davis. Let
me know what you guys think. Down below, we're about
three and a half weeks away. What happens in this
fight on November fourteenth, can take actually knock Jake out.
I don't have those answers, but I guess we'll find
out
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