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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, So we are back on the way cost
presented it by The Ring Magazine, and today we have
a bomb that has been dropped on the boxing world.
Breaking news, folks, apparently according to The Ring Magazine, and
we're gonna get into the announcement, Lloyd Mayweather and Manny
pac Yaw are in talks for a rematch in Big
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twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
This is real. I am not lying to you.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I would never do such a thing, but we have
to talk about it. What is going on? Why is
this happening and where is it happening. And it's not
just that this is a potential rematch in talks. It's
apparently supposed to be on Netflix. So what is happening?
Why is it happening.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Let's get to all of it, the breakdown. Let's go
all right.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So, like I said on the Inside the Ring Show
on The Ring Magazine's YouTube channel, Malise Scott, Max Kellerman,
Shady McCoy still still doing.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
His things somehow there he's a fair play.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
He's bringing the heat from the football world into the
boxing and cop himself, Mike Coppinger sat down to talk
about this exclusive announcement from the Ring Magazine let's take
a listen.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
However, today Mike Koppinger has a cop bomb or.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Like, what is this a double this is this is
big news.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Actually it's but ahead tell the people, all right.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
So I'm hearing from a reliable sources that Floyd Mayweather
and Manny Pacio, yes, more than ten years later, a
rematch has been seriously discussed to take place next year
on Netflix. And Netflix, of course, is very much into
eventizing these whatever they put on, whether it's boxing or tennis,
and so far they've done Jake Paul, Mike Tyson, they
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just did Mayla Her Sorry, they just the Cano against Crawford,
and obviously a rematch Tom Naylather and Paccia, even at
this stage would classify as a big events for Netflix.
And I think it is a real possibility this is
going to happen. Mayweather's now four, I believe, and pak
Yo's around the same age. But look, this was the
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biggest fight in boxing history when it happens, and I
think all these years later or rematch, if it happens,
especially after the way Pacio looked in July against Barrios,
there would be serious interests.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, I mean all right, so there's the announcement apparently
in talks, in serious talks sometime in twenty twenty six
on Netflix. Mayweather pak you oo too, and what cops
said there. I agree with a lot of it. Number One,
I agree that this, regardless of the skill level, regardless
of the time out of the ring, regardless of all
of that, this would still be a very sought after fight.
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And I don't know if that's a good thing for
boxing that we continue to have to find.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I don't want to call it a gimmick fight, but.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
We continue to have to rely on the past, the
greatness of the past versus the greatness of the present
to provide big monumental event. And yes, I'm referring to
Mike Tyson Jake Paul, but to be fair, we did
just have Canelo and Crawford on Netflix, so there's that.
But I don't know, I really don't know how to
feel about this, Like, am I upset about it?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Is it the thing I'm most excited for in twenty
twenty six for the sport of boxing?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No? Well, I watch it, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Will, because this is a bit of a different thing
than Mike Tyson, Jake Paul. Both these guys are old.
Both these got I mean, I'm just saying it like
it is.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
They are both.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
These guys were at one point the highest level in
the world, but when they fought it was about five
years too late. Then that was eleven years ago, and
we saw how the fight went. Then, What would make
it any different now? The only thing I can think
of is because they're a little older, a little slower,
and they're still willing to get in there and do it,
that maybe we would get more of a slugfest. I
still don't know if Mayweather's reflexes have diminished that much.
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I mean, we saw Manny Paquiao go toe to toe
with a sitting world champion in the sport of boxing
right now, in Mario Barrios. That may be more an
indictment on this sport than.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
This fight would even be.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
The fact that forty six year old man he came
out of retirement after three years and went toe to
toe and arguably beat Mario Barrios. Let's be honest, that's
probably more of an indictment on the sport than this
fight would ever be. But you're still gonna get that
feel of like, oh man, here come the novelty act fights.
All right, this is what we're doing. I don't necessarily
feel that way. You're gonna get that feel with a
lot of the hardcore boxing fans. But just like a
Mike Tyson Jake Paul, just like a Jervonte Tang Davis
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Jake Paul, just like a Floyd Mayweer Logan Paul, you
were going to get more of an attention outside of
your hardcore fan base from casual audiences to watch a
fight like this, And in that way it is a
net good for boxing. It just means more eyes on
the sport.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
That is a good thing.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And again, this doesn't feel like as much of a
gimmick because they are two legendary names in the same
or around the same weight. They had already fought before.
You're talking about pound for pound number one, number two,
greatest all time in those weight that I mean you
can argue for the heavy youer guy. I'm just saying,
these are two of the greatest, and if they want
to do it, even in their old age, I wouldn't
recommend it. But then again, many just fought a world
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championship fight and looked okay compared to what he was
in there with. So I don't mind it. I will
watch this, I will break it down, I will enjoy it.
And yes, you can call it a novelty fight. You
can say it's a one off, you can say it's
an entertainment fight. But what the difference in this and
something like a Jake Gervonte fight. There isn't an inherit
or an advantage wait wise, experience wise, there isn't a
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sitting world champion involved in this fight. If you're taking
time out to do it, there isn't a massive age difference.
This is two of the best in their time fighting
years later. This is almost more so like the Roy
Jones Junior Mike Tyson exhibition that happened in twenty twenty.
I think this is more like that than it is,
you know, Jake versus Mike. And the Netflix thing is
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a great move. I mean, Netflix is I think doing
it right when it comes to finding things that people
want to see grabbing attention when procuring sports for their platform.
You don't see Netflix going out no offense to you know,
smaller events in boxing or MMA or really anything. But
you don't see Netflix going out and grabbing you know,
a regular fight night to put on their platform. You
don't see Netflix going out and showcasing high school football
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or even college football. You see them going after the
biggest and most watch events they can possibly make. And
I think, again, that's a good thing that boxing is
included in it at all. Right, you're seeing these exhibitions
with Jake and you're seeing the Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight,
and those do bring a ton of audience. Whether you
like the fights or not, they do, and again, it
brings more people to the sport. Do I wish that
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more people came to the sport for you know, championship
bouts between guys like tia Fimo Lopez and Schaquur Stevenson,
or that we could showcase the Ring four card on
Netflix for David Benavitez, Anthony Yard and Devin Haney and
Brian Norman Junior.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Of course I do. But you have to find a
way to remind people about the sport of boxing.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You have to find a way to get it in
front of a massive audience to then have that trickle
down effect of the people that come for the Mike
Tyson Jake Paul's, the Jake Paul Gramonte Davis, the Floyd Mayweather,
Manny Pacial sixteen years after it should have happened, or
even the Crawford Canelo fight, and hold on to as
many of those people as possible that are interested in
this sport. And in that way, again everyone eats and
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I think it is good for boxing. Now you're always
gonna have this discussion of like what's better for the sport?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Is it a good thing? Is it a bad thing?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You're gonna have people that go, no, I don't want
to see this because there are two legends that are
gonna look like lesser versions of themselves than we remembered,
and in that way it may hurt their legacy. I'm
not one of those people. I can separate the best
from when they were the best to what they are now.
And if these guys were, I mean, Floyd's close to fifty,
he might be fifty at this point, I don't even know.
This is going to be a lesser version of that.
But it's not like you know someone in their sixties
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doing this, or even Mike in his late fifties doing this,
and even then I could separate, like Jake Paul beating
Mike Tyson in a probout was not in any way,
shape or form me looking at his legacy and being like, damn,
Mike lost to Jake Paul's legacy.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Done. No, he was fifty eight.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
You know, I could still go back and see twenty
one year old Mike Tyson or in his twenties in general,
and how that guy looked and who he was and
what he meant to the sport versus what he was
at fifty eight.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And they're two different people.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
You should be able to separate those, but some people won't,
and there will be a generation of kids that do
watch this fight and go, well, these are supposed to
be the greatest of all time.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
They don't look like that.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
These guys don't even look as good as whoever you know,
name the person that they want to watch, you know whatever.
So there is that risk you run like, oh, that
this is supposed to be the two goats, like, man
he packed you out eight division world champ, what are
we talking about? And he doesn't necessarily look like that.
But I will say, Manny looked decent enough. I get
forty six years old versus Mario Barrio, so he still
got it at least to some degree. And we've seen
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Floyd in these exhibitions, you know with Lea Gotti's step brother,
if you know, you know, uh John Gotti the third,
We've seen him against Logan Paul. We've seen him in
these Degie these exhibitions where he still has his reflexes,
he still can fight. But oddly enough, this might be
a hot take when I watch it this second time around.
You know, Manny had the shoulder issue the first time
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in twenty fifteen, and they were still at the top
of boxing, but their skills were fading.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
But this time around them and.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
A little older, a little slower, you may get a
better fight out of it. Not necessarily a better looking
aesthetically or higher skilled, but you may get a better
just a generally better fight. And again you do something
like this because it was at the time it still
is the most watched behind pay per view fight ever.
They generated six hundred million dollars I think or something
like that for that fight, and that was the fight
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that everybody wanted to see. If you can capture that
same feel behind Netflix, which doesn't I mean, yes it
has a paywall, but it's not pay per view.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Behind that, you're.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Gonna get a lot of people that tune into this
thing once again, just for that last go around, that
last ride off into the sunset. So I listen, I
don't think we're gonna see anywhere near the skill that
we would have seen had this been twenty eleven, you know,
twenty ten when it should have happened. But we still
are gonna get a decent enough fight. And I you know,
I get both sides of the argument here when you're
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talking about do we want to see it?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Is it really good for the sport? Do we really
need to see it?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Or we're gonna have a better way of building the
next generation of fighters to or we don't have to
rely on these big, one off, you know, exhibition type fights.
I get all that, and I hear it all, but
I also think there's something to be said for if
guys still have the ability, if they still are with
it mentally and physically, and they still can draw a crowd,
who's to say that we should stop them from fighting?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
It may not be the best look. That this is
who you get the biggest viewing numbers for.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And that should be an indictment on boxing building its
next generation of stars. But just like a Jake Paul
Mike Tyson, card, just like a Canelo and.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Terrence Cross card.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You use those big names in the main event to
have the trickle down effect of all the fighters underneath
that card. So yes, you know you have the novelty
act kind of way too late rematch at the top
of the car, but then you have potentially a Shaquar
Stevens at Tiafimo Lopez, potentially a Ryan Garcia, Devin Haney,
potentially a Abdula Mason, Emiliano Vargas, potentially a Moses Atalma, Jio Pataiah,
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like these names of the great boxers that currently reside
in their divisions that we don't necessarily look at as
those guys that are coming up, or maybe that the
casual audience doesn't necessarily know yet. You utilize that undercard
for those type of guys and hopefully the eyes that
are on that card. Just like a Jake Paul Mike
Tyson get to see seventy five million people watch Katie
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Taylor and Amana Serano.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
You get that same kind of a.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Trickle down effect for those fighters and they become more
popular because of it. That I think would be the
best case scenario. Here is Malik Scott talking about what
he thinks of the fight.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Hen you back off what Shady was saying. I actually
believe people will feed into it heavy because we're talking
about two of the elites of all time. They both
are extremely technically sound, they both are known for what
they have done in the ring. Obviously, Mayweather got the
huge promotion market behind them, so does Pacquiao. I just
think it does numbers and I also would be like
a huge fan of it. I think the way how
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Floyd is looking lately, whether it's in a gym, and
the way how Pakio has been looking at his last fight.
I'm really into the fight if they're going to do
it again, especially if it's going to be on the
best stage in the world, the ring, the Netflix, and
the same type of numbers.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Again, I kind of agree with that. Now.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Again, I know it's not the most consequential fight ever,
but if they still are with it, and both guys
have shown physically and mentally they are still with it,
if they still have an ability, they still have a
hunger to fight. And yes it's a money fight, we
get that, but this time the stakes aren't as high.
We don't have world championships involved. You can kind of
free up the rest of the division because people are
talking about many Bakyao fighting for another world title.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Let's not do that.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Let's have him go over here and fight this thing
with Floyd, because they're at the same stage.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Of their career.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
They're at the same or so's skill level, and we
always asked the question what happened if they fought earlier,
But now we would get the answer to what happened
if they had fought again with a healthier or relatively
healthier many Pakiao or you know later in age when
Floyd slows that. I don't know, but you are going
to potentially get some of the questions answered there of
one of the greatest tandems of fighters that we never
got to see at their prime.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
But hey, if we.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Get one more time around and one more dosey dough,
I'm not gonna say no to it.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I am fully aware and into this fight. I like
this fight.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And again, it doesn't mean that it has to be
consequential for the sport. And maybe in the grand scheme
of things, you want to get away from stuff like
this because it does outshine the current talent in the sport. Right,
you don't want to have to rely on hitting the
old faithful, which is, let's pull somebody out of retirement
because everybody knew them. No, you want to create new
stars so that people do know them. But for this,
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because it really doesn't affect the sport as a whole,
because it's it's almost off on its own island, I say, yes,
I'm into it. You guys, let me know down below
what you think. Breaking News twenty twenty six. It was
supposed to be Floyd and Mike Tyson, which I was
not into at all. Thank goodness, that's not happening, because
I just don't why.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
It makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
We're talking about Mike, who's gonna be sixty and Floyd,
oh yes, is still gonna be close to fifty, and
the wait difference, and that seems like a lot more
of a circus streak show than this ever. Would give
me this fight. If we're gonna do something like this,
put it on Netflix, have it boxing. People that recognize
those two names come in, see a very talented undercard,
become fans of those guys, and elevate the sport. That's
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what I think, you guys, let me know down below
what happens. Does this thing even get off the ground.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Is this for real?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Lloyd Mayweather versus Manny Pacio, twenty twenty six on Netflix.
I don't have those answers, but I guess we'll find
out