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November 6, 2025 16 mins

In this episode, Jon Decker breaks down the Republican Party’s struggles following major election losses and examine how the ongoing government shutdown is reshaping Washington’s political landscape. Decker also covers the Supreme Court’s review of President Trump’s controversial tariff policies and what the decision could mean for trade and the economy. 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the White House Briefing Room for Thursday, November
sixth I'm John Decker. With Democrats energized over their election
victories on Tuesday, President Trump gives his take why Republicans
performed so poorly.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
And last night. It was not expected to be a victory.
It was very Democrat areas. But I don't think it
was good for Republicans. I don't think it was good.
I'm not sure it was good for anybody.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's day thirty seven of the government shutdown, and the
President tells Republican senators how to end it.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's signed for Republicans to do what they have to do,
and that's terminate the filibuster. It's the only way you
can do it. And if you don't terminate the philibuster,
you'll be in bad shape. We won't pass any legislation.
There'll be no legislation passed for three in a quarter.
We have three and a quarter years, so it's a
long time.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
And President Trump's tariff's policy faces some major skepticism at
the US Supreme Court. But we begin with the President
meeting with Republican senators just hours after the GOP suffered
some big losses on election day. Republicans are reeling after
Democrats swept off year races in several blue and purple

(01:14):
states across the country on Tuesday, and the President met
with all of the Republican Senators in the State dining
room for breakfast on Wednesday. It was just hours after
they learned about election losses by big margins in the
governor's race in New Jersey and the governor's race in Virginia.
The mayor's race in New York City was already expected

(01:37):
to be one that Republicans were not going to do well,
but it was those races in particular that have concerned
Republicans just one year ahead of the midterm elections. The
President began his remarks to those Republican senators by telling
them what he'd liked to discuss with them behind closed doors.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
But I thought would have a discussion after the press
leaves about what last night represented and what we should
do about it, and also about the shutdown and how
that relates to last night.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Republicans lost the governor's race in Virginia by fifteen points,
a landslide, and they lost the governor's race in New
Jersey by thirteen points, another landslide, and the President in
the state dining room gave his take on why Republicans
performed so poorly on election day.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
If you read the posters, or the shutdown was a
big factor negative for the Republicans, and that was a
big factor. And they say that I wasn't on the
ballot was the biggest factor. But I don't know about that,
but I was honored that they said that.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
The President then turned his attention to the government shutdown.
It's been ongoing since October one, the first day of
the new fiscal year. It's now on day thirty seven.
He said that Democrats should get the full blame for
this shut down.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
So, as you know, we are in the midst of
a disastrous Democrat created government shutdown, and it is Democrat created,
but I don't think they're getting really the blame that
they should. That's now officially the longest shutdown in American history.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
There are some that believe this is the week that
things will change, that Democrats and Republicans will find some
sort of compromise to end the shutdown, but the President
said he doesn't believe that. He believes that Democrats want
to have this shutdown continue let's listen to the president
right here.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
The Democrat radicals and the Senative shown zero interest in
reopening the government. And I don't think they'll actually see
a lot of people disagree. I've been saying for the
last thirty days, we've had four or five different points. Yes, sir,
they're going to get it right now. We should have
it done in a day. I've heard that about four times.
I heard it after Kings, you know, they said I

(03:53):
was a king, and I heard it after Kings. I
heard it after a couple of other moments in time.
Said no, I don't believe.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
So the President acknowledged that there are individuals and families
all across America who are hurting because of this ongoing impass.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Millions of Americans are going to be without snap benefits.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
And the President spoke of further impacts of this federal
government shutdown. Let's listen to the President speak to those
Republican senators in the State dining room.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
But countless public servants are now not being paid, and
the air traffic control system is under increasing strain. We
must get the government back open soon, and really immediately.
We have to get it up. We have the hottest
economy we've ever had, and it's affecting the stock market
now a little bit.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
So with the shutdown as a backdrop, the President was
not shy about telling Republican senators the best way to
end this ongoing impast I think it's.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Very important we have to get the country open, and
the way we're going to do it this afternoon is
to terminate the filibuster. And its possible you're not going
to do that, and I'm going to go by your wishes.
You're very smart people, we're good friends. But I think
it's a tremendous mistake. Really, it would be a tragic mistake.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Actually, the President had used social media in the days
leading up to this breakfast in the State dining room
essentially saying what he told them in person, which is
he believes that the Senate should end the filibuster. That's
a process by which in order to move legislation through procedurally,
you need sixty votes, not a simple majority, And if

(05:32):
the President gets his way, it would of course be
much easier to pass his legislative agenda. The president recognizes that,
and the President spoke of the advantages to ending the filibuster.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
And we should do our own bills. We should get out,
We should do our own bills. We should open up.
We should start tonight with the country's open congratulations. Then
we should pass voter ID, we should pass no mail
in voting, we should pass all the things that we
wanted to pass, make our elections secure, and say because
California is a disaster.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
So what this morning meeting in the White House the
day after election Day really was all about was getting
Republican senators to change their minds on the filibuster.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
So I'm just going to We're going to talk about
that a little bit, and we're going to see if
we can sway because I know we have a lot
of not a lot. I'd say half feel this way,
maybe a little bit less than half. And it's time
to have a really good talk. If I thought that
they weren't going to pass the fillibus, I wouldn't even
bring it up. They're going to pass it within the
first hour if they take power, and it's more likely

(06:40):
that they take power if we don't do because we're
not going to be passing any legislation, not going to
approve anything. We're going to go three in a quarter years.
There won't be one bill that we're going to pass.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
The President clearly has thought things through. He believes that
if this Senate rule is not changed, there will be
no way that his legislative agenda will be passed in
the remaining time in his second term. And with that
in mind, he is pressuring Republicans once again to end

(07:09):
the filibuster.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
The biggest thing is the filibuster. We have to get
the country going. We will pass legislation at levels you've
never seen before, and it'll be impossible to beat us.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Now. Both parties have been reluctant to eliminate the filibuster rule.
It's historically served as a check on the majority in
a chamber where the balance of power frequently shifts. In fact,
after the midterm elections, it may be Democrats who control
the US Senate and the Senate Majority Leader John Thune

(07:41):
told reporters later on Wednesday, hours after that morning breakfast
at the White House, that the idea of changing this
Senate rule, this is his words, it's just not happening.
So with the filibuster rule not going away, Republicans now
have to contend with how to prepare for the midterm

(08:02):
elections next year. After that electoral drubbing that they received
on Tuesday, and as President Trump mentioned in speaking to reporters,
one of the reasons why Republicans lost is because he
was not on the ballot. Well, he won't be on
the ballot once again in the midterm elections, and Republicans

(08:23):
obviously need to figure out how to motivate those MAGA
voters to come out and vote if Trump is not
going to be on the ballot in twenty twenty six.
Wednesday was also a very important day for the president
at the US Supreme Court. That's where they heard oral

(08:44):
arguments concerning the president's tariff's policy. I was in the
Supreme Court on Wednesday, and for nearly three hours of
oral arguments, the justices seemed skeptical of the President's power
to unilaterally imposed tariffs on every one of America's trading partners. This,
of course, is perhaps the most important case involving President

(09:08):
Trump's legislative policies that has come before the Supreme Court
this year. It's so important that some big names came
up to show up to the oral arguments on Wednesday.
Secretary of the Treasury Scott Besson was watching as oral
arguments took place, as was the Secretary of Commerce Howard

(09:30):
Lutnik and the US Trade Representative Jamison Greer. They were
sitting side by side with each other watching the Solicitor
General John Sower make the case for the administration. But
during those three hours of oral arguments, the justices across
the ideological spectrum, So it wasn't just the liberal justices,

(09:52):
it was also the conservative justices. They expressed doubt that
a nineteen seventies emergency power law could be read to
provide the president with unilateral authority to remake the international
economy and collect billions of dollars in import taxes tariffs

(10:13):
without the explicit approval from Congress. What we're talking about,
as it relates to these tariffs is the president's reciprocal tariffs,
and the White House is relying on AIPA. That's the
International Emergency Economic Powers Act. It's from nineteen seventy seven,
and it's a law which allows presidents to impose sanctions

(10:36):
after declaring a national emergency. But no president, not even
President Trump in his first term, has ever invoked that
law to unilaterally imposed tariffs. And that was a problem
that we heard posed by a number of conservative justices.
Chief Justice John Roberts said that the powered atax has

(10:58):
always been a core power of Congress, and Brett Cavanaugh
also had a problem with the fact that no president
before had invoked i IPA to impose tariffs on every
one of America's trading partners. Now. Solicitor General John Sower
took heat from all sides as he pressed the administration's

(11:19):
argument that the president's power to regulate foreign financial transactions
when he declares an emergency includes the authority to impose tariffs.
But the majority of justices agreed that tariffs were indeed taxes,
taxes on imported goods, and many were skeptical that Congress

(11:43):
would just so casually surrender to the executive branch to
the president its core constitutional power to raise revenue. One
of those conservative justices that raised a problem for the
administration's argument was Associate Justice Neil Gorsuch, and he's obviously
potentially a key vote in this case, and he offered

(12:07):
up an example of why the president's theory is problematic.
He said, could the president impose a fifty percent tariff
on gas power, cars, and autoparts to deal with the
unusual and extraordinary threat from abroad of climate change, and
John Sower, the Solicitor General, conceded that another president could

(12:29):
actually use this same power for such purposes. And then
where Sower noted that Congress could always vote to cancel
an emergency declared by the president, Gorsuch also brought up
the political realities and said that's politically unlikely because it
would require a two thirds majority in each house to

(12:52):
override the president's veto. Also weighing in in this case,
Chief Justice John Roberts he drilled down on what's known
as the major Questions doctrine. That's a formula that the
Court applies to strike down various actions by the president,
for instance, the student loan relief that President Biden pursued

(13:15):
in his one term in office. The Court has held
that the executive branch, the president cannot rely on ambiguous
statutory language to resolve major questions of federal policy that
Congress may not have anticipated. And what Roberts said to
John Sower was, it seems that it might be directly

(13:38):
applicable to this tariff's policy that the President has implemented.
Even Justice Samuel Alito at times seemed skeptical, and he
suggested that the President may have other legal tools at
his disposal to impose his tariff's policy. Now, I mentioned
how Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, was in the Supreme

(13:59):
Court for oral arguments. He attended the hearing. He later
said on television in an interview that he was very
optimistic about the administration's chances. But that's not what I
heard in listening to oral arguments in the Supreme Court.
I've been in the Supreme Court countless times over the
past few decades. I've was in the Supreme Court actually

(14:22):
for Bush v. Gore back in December two thousand and Sometimes,
based upon the questions that the justices posed to the lawyers,
you get a sense a sense about how the justices
are feeling about a certain case. And the sense that
I got over nearly three hours of oral arguments is
that Wednesday was not a good day for President Trump

(14:44):
and his tariff's policy. And it seems to me likely
that the Supreme Court will likely uphold lower court rulings
that found that the President acted illegally when he imposed
those reciprocal tariffs. Now, if the President loses this case
on AIPA, he does have some other options to continue

(15:05):
his tariff agenda. Alongside these so called reciprocal tariffs, which
I believe may be shot down by the Supreme Court,
the President has also imposed a number of tariffs on
industries including autos, steel, aluminum, and copper under separate national
security authority. Those tariffs will likely survive any type of

(15:30):
legal scrutiny. In addition to that, a few weeks ago
in the Oval Office, I asked the President if there
is a Plan B, and I suggested that the President
maybe Plan B is going to Congress and getting Congress
to back him on imposing these tariffs on every one
of America's trading partners. And the President told me in

(15:50):
the Oval Office that he does not believe that he
has the sixty votes in the Senate to move that
type of tariff legislation forward. Now, of course he could
move it forward or through reconciliation. That's a possibility, and
I've spoken to some leaders in the Senate that believe
that through that process they do have the votes to
move that legislation forward. So we'll have to see after

(16:12):
the Supreme Court rules what the administration decides to do
in response the Supreme Court. By the way, will likely
render its decision concerning this case before the end of
this year. As for Thursday, the President at eleven am
in the Oval Office will make an announcement. No indication
what that will be, but I have a sense it's

(16:34):
going to be health related. And then at six o'clock,
the President will participate in multilateral meetings with Central Asian
countries and also participate in a dinner with the leaders
of those Central Asian countries. So that's what's on tap
for the President on Thursday. That's the White House Briefing
Room for Thursday, November sixth I'm John Decker. Have a

(16:57):
good one.
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