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October 23, 2025 14 mins

In this episode, White House correspondent Jon Decker breaks down President Trump’s latest announcements, including tough new sanctions on Russia’s oil sector and renewed NATO efforts to secure peace in Ukraine. Decker also covers U.S. military actions against international drug traffickers, plans for an upcoming meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping, and the addition of a new White House ballroom amid ongoing renovations. 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the White House Briefing Room for Thursday, October
twenty third. On John Decker, with the head of NATO
by his side in the Oval Office, the President expressed
optimism that he can help end the war in Ukraine, but.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
It would be a little bit easier. That's turned out
to be tougher than the Middle East. The Middle East
was supposed to be the tough one, and we've solved
that puzzle. But this one will get solved.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
President Trump says the Pentagon's targeting of alleged drug boats
will continue.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Now they'll come in by land at a lesser to
a lesser extent, and they will be hit on land.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
The President previews his upcoming meeting with Chinese President Jijingping.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
We'll make a deal on I think everything. I think
we're going to make a deal on soybeans and the farmers.
I think we're going to make a deal on maybe
even nuclear.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
And President Trump touts his plans for the new White
House Ballroom.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
You know, we're very proud of it. It's gotten great reviews,
it's gotten really great reviews.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
But we begin in this Thursday with the President announcing
what he called substantial sanctions on Russia's two largest oil companies.
President Trump met on Wednesday with NATO's Secretary General Mark
Ruda at the White House in the Oval Office, and
that was shortly after it was announced by the Treasury
Department that new sanctions have been imposed on Russia's biggest

(01:22):
oil exporters. The new sanctions would be the first direct
US sanctions on Russia during the second Trump administration, and
they target Luke Oil and Rosnept, as well as nearly
three dozen of those companies subsidiaries. Oil, of course, is
one of Russia's largest sources of revenue and oil funds.

(01:45):
The war in Ukraine. Sitting in front of the fireplace
and the Oval Office, NATO's Secretary General Mark Ruda said
that he is committed along with the rest of NATO
to help bring peace to Ukraine has to.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Be Ukraine in Russia.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
And I went to help Nator Monster, help my college,
wantro help to basically deliver on your.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Vision of peace in Rudah came to Washington from Brussels
in order to discuss a number of NATO's goals and.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Today we will talk more on how we can really
bring Ukraine to the next face and get this terrible
word of this and all the bloodshed to now.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
The sanctions announcement came after the Trump administration just a
day before reverse course on a second Trump Putin summit
that was to be held in Budapest, Hungary. That reversal
came after what was meant to be a preparatory call
between Secretary of State Mark Rubio and his Russian counterpart,
Sergei Lavrov. The White House released a statement just a

(02:45):
day before saying there would be no immediate plans for
an upcoming Trump Putin meeting. That's something that the President
had previously said would happen within two weeks. The President
on Wednesday explained why he canceled that meeting with people.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Until the meeting with President Putin. It just it didn't
feel right to me. It didn't feel like we were
going to get to the place we have to get,
so I canceled it.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
The President was asked during that Oval Office Q and
A with reporters, why impose sanctions on Russia?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Now, we waited a long time. I thought that would
go long before the Middle East, and Mark, as you know,
we did the Middle East.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I was in the press pool in the Oval Office
on Wednesday, and I asked the President about the intended
impact of these new sanctions. Let's listen to my question
to the President and the way that he responded to it.
The President that the sanctions that you're announcing today will.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, I don't know that they will. I think that
they'll certainly have an impact there. They're massive sanctions, and
sanctions and oil the two biggest soil companies, among the
biggest in the world, but they're Russian. They do a
lot of oil. And hopefully it'll push, Hopefully he'll become
reasonable and hopefully Zelenski will be reasonable to you know,

(04:05):
it takes two to tango.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
There's that phrase that the President often uses when he
talks about the war in Ukraine. It takes two to tango.
And Mark Ruda, the NATO Secretary General, also responded to
my question.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
What the President is doing today with these sanctions is
putting more pressure, of course, on both parts. In this
case of Russia, it's all about changing the calculates, making
sure that put An understands that the president's vision this
weekend of having a ceasefire stop better or as you
literally said, that this has to be step one now

(04:39):
and for him to really accept that vision and to
come to the table, and then you have to put
pressure on This is objactionation.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
In fact, the EU and the UK have also taken
action against Russia's two oil giants. Senior European officials have
long argued that ramping up sanctions on Russia would pressure
the Kremlin to move towards serious negotiations to end the war.
The EU on Thursday is set to approve its nineteenth

(05:07):
package of measures sanctions which we'll also see the EU's
growing imports of Russia's liquefied natural gas band starting next year.
The President in the Oval Office also explain why he's
not providing Tomahawk missiles, those long range, very accurate missiles

(05:29):
that can strike deep into Russian territory. Why he's not
providing those tomahawks to Ukraine right now?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
The problem with the Tomahawk, a lot of people don't know.
It'll take a minimum of six months, usually a year
to learn how to use them. They're highly complex. So
the only way tomahawk is going to be shot is
if we shot it, and we're not going to do that.
But there is a tremendous learning curve with the tomahawk.
It's a very powerful weapon, very accurate weapon, and maybe

(05:57):
that's what makes it so complex. But it will take
a It takes a year of intense training to learn
how to use it. And we know how to use it,
and we're not going to be teaching other people who
will be just too far out into the future.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
As for those newly announced sanctions against Russia's two biggest
oil companies, the President said, these new sanctions on Russia
are very significant.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
He's a very big day in terms of what we're doing. Look,
these are tremendous sanctions. These are very big. Those are
against their two big oil companies, and we hope that
they won't be on for long. We hope that the
war will be settled.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
The President has long threatened sanctions against Russia if Vladimir
Putin refused to move toward a peace deal, and Republicans
in the Senate have been very anxious to move their
own Russia sanctions package, but as Senate Majority Leader John
Thune told me just a day before, they are waiting
for a green light for a floor vote from President Trump.

(06:56):
President Trump on Wednesday said that he's very frustrated by
his talks with President pool I.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Think that in terms of honesty, the only thing I
can say is every time I speak with Vladimir, I
have good conversations, and then they don't go anywhere. They
just don't go anywhere.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Also on Wednesday, the President confirmed that the US had
struck a suspected drug boat on the Pacific side of
South America, and that of course signals a widening of
this campaign against alleged drug traffickers. The President gave details
in the Oval Office on this military strike against that
boat in the Pacific.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
One today in the Pacific, and the way I look
at it every time I look is it is violent,
and it is very It's amazing that the weaponry everyone,
you know, they have these boats that go forty five
to fifty miles an hour in the water, and when
you look at the accuracy in the power. Look, we
have the greatest military in the world. We have the

(07:54):
greatest weapons in the world. And you see a little
bit of it there. One shot, everyone dead set. And
the only way you can't feel bad about it is
you realize that you won't feel badly about it is
you realize that every time you see that happen, you're
saving twenty five thousand American lives.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
That attack in the Pacific on what is known as
a go fast boat is the eighth reported US strike
on an alleged drug boat, and it brings the death
toll from this campaign to at least thirty four. Members
of Congress from both parties have been pressing for more
details about the legal basis for this campaign against these

(08:35):
alleged drug boats. The President said on Wednesday that he
does have the legal authority to take out those drug boats.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yes, we have legal authority. We're allowed to do that,
and if we do by land, we may go back
to Congress, but we have this is a national security brother.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
The Trump administration has labeled several drug gangs as foreign
terrorist organizations, and the Pentagon has also called the strikes lawful.
The President on Wednesday said that he will go after
these narco drug traffickers on land as well.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
We will hit them very hard when they come in
by land, and they haven't experienced that yet, but now
we're totally prepared to do that. We'll probably go back
to Congress and explain exactly what we're doing when we
come to the land. We don't have to do that,
but I think Marco I'd like to do that.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
On Wednesday, we also learn more information about the President's
upcoming meeting with Chinese President Jijingping. It's not entirely clear when, where,
or even if the President will meet with President she
during his upcoming trip to Asia, but I asked the
President in the Oval office about what he hopes to
accomplish during his meeting. Let's listen to my question as

(09:47):
well as the President's replied, that's coming.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Up with President She. What the hope comes out of me?
What the libicals? I think we'll make a deal. I
think we're going to make a deal on the rare earth.
Is the least of it look so much more powerful
than the rare earth. The rare earth is a disturbance.
But there's a lot of rare earth around. I'll tell
you I've had more calls on rare earth. We've got it.
Everybody's we'll make a deal on I think everything. I

(10:12):
think we're going to make a deal on soybeans and
the farmers. I think we're going to make a deal
on maybe even nucleus.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
I also ask the President whether he'll put more pressure
on China to stop buying Russian oil. As the President
she to stop purchasing all that Russian oil that's funding
this war against.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Well, I think I'll be talking to him about it.
I think it's a little bit of a different talk. India,
as you know, has told me they are to stop.
You know, it's a process. You can't just stop it.
But by the end of the year they'll be down
to almost nothing. That's a big thing. That was almost
forty percent of the oil India. They've been great. Spoke
to the Prime Ministermota yesterday. They've been absolutely great. Chinese

(10:56):
is a little bit different, you know, they're a little
bit different. Relationship they have with Russia. It was never good,
but because of Biden and Obama, they got forced together.
They should never have been forced together. But they're a
little bit forced. But they're by nature they're not They
can't be friendly. They can't be so by nature. I
hope they are friendly, frankly, but they can't be.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
The you don't want.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
You should not have forced Russia China together, and Biden
did that and Obama did that. They forced them together
because of energy, because of oil, and so they are
closer than they would normally be. I think I'll probably
be talking about it. What I'll really be talking to
them about is how do we end the war with
Russia and Ukraine, whether it's through oil or energy or

(11:40):
anything else. And I think he's going.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
To be very president. She and President Putin have a
very close relationship. They speak often, They've met with each
other often during the course of the nearly four year
duration of the war in Ukraine. And I asked the
President on Wednesday if she holds the key to ending
the war. Let's listen to my question and the way

(12:06):
that the President answered it in terms of inserting himself
and evincing we cease to regularly to stop the world.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, I do. I think he can have a big
influence on Botin. I think he can have a big influence.
So a lot of people, look, he's a respected man,
he's a very strong leader of a very big country. Yeah,
I think he can have a big influence. And we
will certainly be talking about Brushia Ka.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
President is scheduled to leave for Asia tomorrow night, and
he has stops planned in Malaysia, Japan, as well as
in South Korea for the Apex Summit. Demolition efforts still
continue on the East Wing at the White House and
that certainly has gotten a lot of attention in Washington
and around the country. The President on Wednesday raised the

(12:53):
estimate of his planned White House ballroom what these demolition
efforts are all about. He said the project would cost
three hundred million dollars, and that's up from his initial
claim of two hundred million dollars. And he defended his
decision to tear down the East Wing.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
So over the years, many presidents have made changes. This
obviously would be the biggest change, but this was something
they've wanted for at least one hundred and fifty years.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
The President said he's been very transparent about the planned
ninety thousand square foot ballroom, which would be nearly twice
the footprint of the fifty five thousand square foot main
section of the White House next door. White House officials
say they expect a full scale teardown of the East Wing,

(13:41):
and they defend it as a modernization of the building.
The President said, this ballroom will be top now.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
This is going to be probably the finest ballroom ever built,
and we're doing it no cost to the country. It's
being put in. The money is being put in by
me and donors. Very great patriots actually and the spirit
on the building of it is amazing.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
The White House says that it will soon send ballroom
plans to the National Capitol Planning Commission that's required to
review any external construction projects at the White House, and
that commission will decide whether to approve the new building.
It's important to remember that that twelve member board is

(14:25):
now led by a majority of Trump appointees, including its chairman.
As for Thursday, when the White House put out it's
week ahead schedule, they listed one item on the President's schedule,
an announcement at three pm in the afternoon. No further
details about what that announcement is all about, but this
week is certainly shaping up to be a busy week

(14:48):
for the president. That's the White House Briefing Room for Thursday,
October twenty third. I'm John Decker. Have a good one.
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