December 28, 2022 • 31 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi. Be uh. Why is Geraldine looking terrified and crouched
all the way on top of the bookshelf? Hi, Elliott Well.
In honor of one of our subjects today, writer E. B. White,
I thought it would be fun to bring in a
special guest star to play one of his beloved characters,
Stewart Little, who you know is a a mouse. I
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thought we learned this lesson after I brought my son's
class mouse in Elephants are scared of mice? Oh, Elliott,
I never learned. Well, at least you didn't bring in
a special guest star from our other subject, author Maury Sendek,
who famously wrote and illustrated Where the Wild Things Are?
Right about that? It's a wild thing, Geraldine, make room
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on that bookshelf. Wow, Elliot, great jump. Now let me
introduce you all to our other guest star, in honor
of Charlotte's Web, I also brought this spider. Would you
look at that? I didn't, Oh, mice and wild things
were afraid of spiders. Wilsa didn't realize that bookshelf could
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fold all that weight. It can't. Eric, here you go,
What do you think you know about the rates room?
This story? The game is on. Get some energy and
buckle up your brain because it's signed to play Who Was? Podcast?
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Because it's time to favorites. Who Knows? Live from Tom
Bland or so called so Well Los Angeles. Welcome to
Who Was? The history quiz show that gives contestants the
chance to win mega prizes and podcast. Laurie, I'm your announcer,
Me and I have definitely earned my stripes. That's a
(01:50):
fee joke. And now here's your host, the man who
makes as many fashion rules as he breaks. It's Elliott Helen.
Thank you be you know today is fashion? Don't? Is
tomorrow's fashion? Do? And welcome everyone clue Who Was? Podcast?
This show is like Jeopardy, only with secret guests, silly games,
and an unpublished secret menu. Okay, if you know, you know.
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Our two contestants were sent who Was books about two
great figures from history. Now they're here to show off
their knowledge in the hopes of winning fantastic prizes. Prizes.
Today we're talking about Babe White and Maurice Sendeth to
popular children's book authors Pool Club to say any characters
just as much as we do. But before we learn
about them, let's learn about our contestants. First up, we
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have Athena. Athena, will you please introduce yourself. I'm Athena
and I have three cats. Alexander Hamilton's young in hammer
Claw and we will send off. I wrote my four
Johnny chapter book a year ago, and the pronouncer sheher,
oh wow, okay, so there was a lot of information
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in that, thank you. Those were all fun and all facts.
I'm interested in this book that you broke. Um it's
a twenty chapter book. Yeah? What is it about dragons?
That's the best word you could have said. I know,
I'm sure what word you were going to say, but
that was the perfect word. I didn't think it was
going to be that, but that's a great word for
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it to be. So what is the title of your book?
I have no idea. I wrote it a your Okay,
that's in the past. I love. I love this attitude,
which is, hey, I don't talk about my old work.
That's behind. I'm all about the future. So what are
you working on now? You're working on another book? Yeah?
Is it also about dragons? Yeah, it's the same series. Oh,
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it's part of a whole series. Wow, well that is
so exciting. Um, I cannot wait to read this. Um.
Once I find out what the title is, I will
definitely check it out from my local library. Yeah, I
can't wait when I go into a bookstore and I
say do you have this book and they say what's
it called? And I say, I don't know, but it's
about dragons and they say, we know exactly the book
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you're target exactly. Hey, that's just another instance if you know,
you know, it's the secret venue of books. All right,
And with a thank you so much for sharing Athena
and with us. Today we also have Caroline, Caroline, will
you please introduce yourself. Hi on Caroline Branssa share and
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I love drafts and you loved giraffe. Wow, that's so
cool because giraffes are like the dragons of the zoo
of the jungle, or zoo of the jungle, of these
two jungle zoon russ. Listen, this is not a show
about facts, except wait a minute, this is exactly a
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show about fact. So hold on. Yeah, well we'll we'll
love to wait for the who was giraffes? Yeah, this
is a quiz show. Come on, come on, Who's who's
supposed to be doing the quizzic right here, Carolyn, what
is it about giraffes you like so much? It's good answer,
not the answer I expected. Again getting a lot of
would unexpected answers from our contestants today. What I like
about giraffes is those knobs on the top of their heads.
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They're already super tall, they already have super long next,
they're already yellow. They don't need any extras, but they've
got them. Those weird knob horns on the top of
the head. What do they do? Did they serve a purpose?
The knob barns on top of their head? Oh, Producer
Jana saying, that's how you steer a giraffe. That makes sense. Okay,
see there's the steering knobs. Well, uh, please don't try
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at home, listeners, don't get on a draft and try
steering them with that would have a draft at home,
probably in your attic. It would just have to start
on the body floor and then end up in the
at it. Yeah, maybe it sticks his head up through
the chimney. Also, again, if you have a draft at home,
don't put its neck gun through the chimney. But it's
very likely you don't have a grab at home, in
which case if you'll get one and pick up that
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book about dragons. Thank you both Athena and Carolin for
being with us today. I'm very excited about this show today,
and of course thanks to our musician Eric for providing
that lovely mut the contestants music and all the music
on today's show. So that's who is. Now Let's find
out who was Eb White with four fast facts Prospects.
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EB White was born Elwyn Brooks White in eighteen ninety
nine and died in nineteen eighty five. He wrote over
twenty books for adults and kids, but he is best
known for writing the beloved children's books Stewart Little and
Charlotte's Web. He was also a poet, an essayist, and
a humorist, and contributed writing and drawings to some of
the most popular magazines of all time. He is a
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winner of many awards, including the Children's Literature Legacy Award
and an American Academy of Arts and Letters Gold Medal.
Fool Prospects. So, Athena and Caroline were wondering, had you
read any of EB White's books before you read the
book about EB White? Caroline, had you ever read either
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like Stewart Little, or Charlotte's Webb or Trumpeter of the Swan.
I don't think I've read that, but I definitely have
watched Charlotte tried it's reading. Okay, cool. What about you, Athena?
Had you read any of those books? Um? I almost
read The Stewart Little in fourth grade, but um instead
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I read am About Jackets. That's a good guess. That's
a good guess about what the other book was. So
have you seen any of the any of the movies
like Caroline has Nope, I didn't know they existed. Well,
the books themselves, they're really beautiful books. Their favorites in
our household. They're very interesting children's books because there's something
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very sweet about them, but there's also something a little
grown up about them. I feel like when I was
a kid, eb Whites books were the most grown up
children's books that I read, and they really made me
feel special that way, because it felt like I was
getting something more than more than I was used to
from kids books. They're really beautiful and a little sad,
so be per pair you've been worn. If you're reading
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an ev White book, make sure you've got a box
of tissues next to you, because you're gonna be a
prion and we need to drive those two ears. Yeah,
thank you both so much for joining us. And let's
punctually this delightful conversation with our first game, one that
honors Evie White's poetry as much as his pros. It's
everyone's favorite rhyme with two lines, it's a couplet. One
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it's a couplet. It's a couplet. In this game, we
have a rhyming couplet with one word missing. Fill in
the blank with the correct rhyming word. So, for example,
if I said something like, when I look out the window,
I see a tree and on a branchise by my
co host named the correct answer is b which rhymes
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with tree. Also, be get down from there, be get
back in the Cdo I told you I prefer to
work under dangerous conditions. Fine, and since this is our
first game, each question is worth one point. Take it away,
be Athena. Here is your couplict E B. White was
certainly no fool, But when he was a kid, he
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did not like going to school. That's right, The answer
is school. Young Eb disliked school. That Pobe was still
always writing. He kept a journal for his entire life,
starting at age nine. He also won prizes for his writing.
At the age of nine. He went on to be
the editor of his college newspaper, and he enjoyed a
class about grammar from one of his college professors, William Strunk, Jr.
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And he revised Strunk's book The Elements of Style later
in his life. Okay, the next question is for Carolyn.
For a while, Ebe once worked on a cruise ship,
but before that went with his pal on a cross
country road trip. That's exactly right. The ANSWER's road trip.
After college, Ebe wasn't sure what he should do next,
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so he and his friend decided to go across the
country in a Model T car they called Hotspur pretty
coolly in for a car. They drove from New York
State and ended up in Washington State, where Evie took
a job writing for the Seattle Times newspaper. Pevie later
wrote about these adventures as magazine articles. Through his experience,
he learned that he wanted to write about life as
he saw it. Okay, the next question is for Athena.
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Be take it away, Athena, here's your couplet. Before eb
wrote Charlotte's web featuring a famous porker. He lived in
New York and wrote humor pieces for a magazine, The
New Yorker. Exactly right. The answer is the New Yorker,
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and the New Yorker is a very influential magazine that
helps start the careers of some of America's most important writers.
But not me. They've rejected several pieces I've submitted. Abe
like the way that they combined news articles, humor pieces, poetry,
and cartoons. The New Yorker even helped to shape Ebe's
life by introducing him to other writers and to his
future wife, Katherine Sergeant Angle, who was a writer and
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the fiction editor at The New Yorker. Maybe you've never
heard of Catherine, but she was instrumental in shaping American literature.
The next question is wor Carolyn for e b The
character of Stuart Little was a sure bet When he
was young. He even had a mouse as a pet.
That's right. The answer is pet Ebe kept a house
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mouse as a pet. The idea for Stuart Little came
to eb and the dream. He talked about it with
Anne Carol Moore, an important children's librarian. She didn't think
it was a good idea for a book, so he
put the idea away for years until a different editor
loved the idea. When he published Swart Little and Carol
Moore gave it a bad review and he was even
banned from some libraries. EB thought he had made a
big mistake until thousands of fan letters from kids poured in.
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It remains one of the best selling children's books of
all time. And that's the end of the game. It's
a couple of that. It's a couple of amazing. Now
let's scurry over to producer Jane with the spods HELLI
and B. I don't mind telling you we have a
tied game with two points each. Thank you Jane. And now,
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ladies and genm and mice, spiders and pigs, please welcome
to the show. EB whites bangs who was wandering in
the best? Hey, e B? Did anyone ever call you EBB?
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Like ed but with a B? Yeah? Absolutely not cool?
That can be our thing? Then may I refuse? Wait
a minute here. The lesseners at home can't see this,
but EB has a soundboard in front of him and
he's hitting a different key at the end of his sentences,
and I sure, am there's that point again, what gives Well.
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I'm best known for my work as a children's book author,
but certainly more influential was my revision of the writing manual,
The Elements of Style. I thought that was a book
about like how to pull off wearing fancy clothes or
how to match shoes and all that. Oh, romm it be.
The Elements of Style is the book on the American
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English writing style and punctuation. It's been named one of
the best and most influential books of all time by
critics and authors. Alight, okay, but it's a grammar book.
But grammar can be fun. I went up this soundboard
here to play a different sound effect to represent different
punctuation for your listening audience, grammar and funny noises. I
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never thought all my interests with a line so completely.
This is genious. Ev I took the liberty of adding
an exclamation point on the end of that sentence for you. Now,
let me take you through the soundboard. If I were
to say, may I have a glass of milk? You'd
know it was a question by the violin string sound effect.
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And if I remember my manners and said may I
have a glass of milk? Please? Then you'd know there
was a comma before the please, and those wiggly sounds
mean quotations. The tap is just the plane as you
please period. Wow? What about apostrophes, ellipses, semi colon? Yeah,
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now you're getting it. Would you like to try it? Sure,
Scooch should ad b I'm pretty sure he was talking
to me. I'm the grammar enthusiast here. I turned your
statement into a question. You should have hit the tap sound.
That wasn't a semi cool and that was a statement.
Oh no, he put your statement in quotations. It's been
rendered ironic. I'm just having funned with the Butlins boys.
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She just flipped three exclamation points on the end of
that statement. This is chaos. Oh dear, now she found
the anson. You must be stopped. Would the love of
grammar do something to just combobulate that? My mind is
a jungle of quote some samas. Hello, producer Jane, what
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I um plugged it? Producer Jane? My hero? Oh I
shall never forget you. Now I must be off. I'm
having chicken fingers with Shakespeare. You help me have some
new poems. Thanks again for having me, and thanks again?
Who was who? Thank you, Jane. Let's take a quick break.
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We'll be back with more games, So don't go anywhere. Eric,
play us some elements of style music, please ye before
you we're back on the Who Was podcast. Today we're
finding out who was Evie White and who was Maurice
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Sendack And now back to your host, Elliott Palin. Thank you. Be.
Let's keep the game moving and find out who was
Marie Sendak with four fast facts or hoss re. Sendak
was born in nineteen and died in twelve. Marie Sendek
was the son of Polish Jewish immigrants and grew up
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in Brooklyn, New York. Marie wrote and illustrated many of
the most beloved children's books, including Where the Wild Things
Are in the Night Kitchen and Chicken Soup with Rice.
He is a celebrated lgbt q I, a hero, and
he has two elementary schools named after him. Okay, now
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we're wondering the same thing that we wondered about Ebe
White's books. Had either of you read any of Maurice
sendacs books before you read the Who Was Marie Sendeck book?
I think in like first grade, our teacher read Where
the Wild Things Are but like I'm mostly remember the pictures. Yeah,
the pictures are really he drew those. I think Marie
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Sendeck wouldn't mind that held picture. They're really gorgeous. Marie Sendex.
Arc is very It's very beautiful, and it's also can
be very funny, and it can also be very scary,
and it can also be very moving. Uh, it's really amazing.
I'm speaking about him a lot because I'm gonna let
the you and the audience speak behind the curtain. My
wife is a children's life Barry, and we talk about
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children's books a lot in my house, and Recendec is
a particular favorite of ours, very special in our house. Carolin,
knowing that, knowing how important re Scendec is to me,
have you ever read any of his books? I don't
think the wild? Where the wild? Okay, I'll take that.
I'll take that. Since we're all familiar with where the
wild things are. Let's let the wild rumps start with
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our next game sound effects Safari sound effects sound fetsioggery
sound effects faggery Why did they take a baby on
a Safari? In this game, we will play a sound
effect inspired by something important from Recendex life our contestants
will tell us what the sound effect represents. Because this
is our second game, each question is worth two points.
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Here is our first sound effect for Caroline. That was
Mickey Mouse's iconic laugh. Why is Mickey Mouse significant for
Maurice's life? Is it because a Maurice was rejected from
a job at Disney or be Mickey Mouse was Maurice's
childhood hero? B That's right, The answer is being Mickey
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Mouse was born the same year as Maurice. Marie said
he loved Mickey Mouse because he was quote sassy and
always thinking of ways to outdo people. At least the
original version of Mickey was that way. Maurice would see
Mickey Mouse films at the theater, he would leap up
on his seat and scream. His sister and brother had
to hold him down. Maurice named Mickey the main character
of his book In the Night Kitchen after Mickey Mouse. Okay,
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next question is for Athena. Yeah, that sound effect for
you is kids playing outside? Which answer best describes why
this is significant to Maurice? Is it a Maurice was
often sick as a child and watched his neighbor's play
from inside his house. Or be. Maurice was once commissioned
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by the Borough of Brooklyn to create a Maurice Sendek playground.
H A, that's right. The answer is A. Maurice often
watched the kids in his neighborhood from his parents window.
He said, quote, so many happy memories are being indoors
and looking out windows. Later in life, I'll staying with
his parents. Maurice overheard kids in the neighborhood talking to
each other. One Katie always noticed was a bold girl
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named Rosie. He was so delighted by hearing the stories
she told other kids. He used her as the inspiration
for his book The Sign on Rosie's Door, which became
a musical called Really Rosie, another favorite in the Calin household.
The next sound effect is for Caroline boy v smra zoltsvaksena.
Okay Carolin. That was Elliott speaking in Yiddish. Why would
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this be significant to Maurice's life? Is it? A? His
favorite musical was Fiddler on the Roof or B. As
the son of Polish immigrants, much of his fami only
spoke Yiddish. B. That's right. The answer is be. Maurice's
parents immigrated from Poland. His family was Jewish, so they
spoke Yiddish at home. Maurice's book Where the Wild Things
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Are was inspired by the phrase of ild Ojaiah, which
his mother called him when he was a boy. This
roughly translates to wild animal in English. His Yiddish relatives
used to say to him, who looks so good? I
could eat you up, which is very similar to what
the wild things say to Max, the little boy in
the book. The final question is for Athena that is
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a snippet from a Mozart song. How does this sound
effect relate to Maurice senday? Is it a Maurice loved
and was inspired by Mozart's music? Or b he had
a beloved pet cat he named mozart A. That's right,
The answer is a. Maurice once said, I know if
there's a purpose in life, it was for me to
hear Mozart. I mean, wow, this guy loved Mozart. Later
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in his career, Maurice designed costumes from Mozart's opera The
Magic Flute, and he went on to design over a
dozen more operas, including an operatic adaptation of his book
Where the Wild Things Are? And That's sound effects Safari
sound effects Safari Sari sound effects. Amazing game, everybody. You're
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both doing so well. Let's wild rump us over to
producer Jane to get the scores. Oh, it'd be We
have a tie still with six points each, and don't
go anywhere. We'll be back for our final game after this.
Pick quick, Eric, please play us some guild Ohaia music.
Please you're giving me Saurus Sally. Who was Marie Curie?
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You may remember me from winning multiple Nobel prizes or
FAPs from my episode of the Worst Podcast where I
played myself. I wanted to take a moment to read
one of my favorite reviews about the Whoas podcast. This
is from Shaken Bay and it reads loved this Me
and my little sister love this show more. Please. Our
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faith is Ariet Toman. If you want to hear your
review right on the app, make sure to subscribe, like,
and review to the Wah's podcast in the I Heart
Radio up or wherever you give your podcasts revoir or
should I stay abiato. We're back on the Whos podcast
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where we're learning all about who was Ebie White and
who was Maurice Kenda? And now back to your host,
Elliot Kaitlin, thank you be With not a moment to lose,
We're heading on to our last game, Converge of Greatness.
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In this multiple choice game, we'll explore how our famous
people connect, overlap, or converge. Choose the best answer for
each question, and because this is covering double the topics
of our last game, it will be worth triple the points.
I know it sounds mad, but that's how we do
things on the who Has podcast. The first question is
for a theme. E. B. White and Marie Sendek worked
with this editor who helped publish some of America's favorite
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children's books. Was that person a Ursula Nordstrom, b Amelia
Badelia or see Mr Popper, Penguins Random House. That's right,
the answer is a Ersla Nordstrom was the editor to
both Morty Sendek and Evie White. Editors worked with authors
to help them improve their books. Ursula helped Morris Land
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his first illustrating work, and when Ursla read Stuart Little,
she knew it was something special. She helped Evie publish it,
even after others put it down. She worked with Lebe
on Charlotte's Web and the Trumpet of the Swan. Ursula
what a visionary. Okay, next question is for Caroline. World
War two greatly affected Maurice and eb White. Sadly, Maurice
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lost most of his extended family in Poland in the Holocaust.
He responded to this terrible loss with the art and
words of his books. Eb White responded to the end
of the war by writing A Stewart Little Too, Let's
Get Tiny, be his first and only rock album. Or
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see a book about an ideal government called Wild Flag. Yes,
you're right, the answer is see. Inspired by the First
Meeting of the United Nations, Evie wrote The Wild Flag,
a book filled with ideas on how one world government
could give everyone the same basic freedoms. Abe also wrote
pieces in support of the civil rights movement in nineteen
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sixties and was early environmentalist who helped scientist and writer
Rachel Carson get published early in her career. We have
an episode about Rachel Carson. Go check it out. It's great.
But first before you do that, hold on, no go anywhere.
Check out this next question. It's for a theme. Both
eb White and Maurice Sendek were dog people. That doesn't
mean they had wet noses and floppy ears. It means
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they love dogs. E b had a dog that would
walk him home from school most days, and Maurice wrote
a book all about his beloved dog, who was named
a Mozart B Max or C. Jenny. That's right, The
answer is C. Maurice called his dog Jenny the love
of my life. As long as she was alive, Jenny
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was featured somewhere in every book Marie drew. When Jenny
started nearing the end of her life, Maurice wrote a
book all about her called Giggledy Piggledy Pop that ends
with her leaving home forever but writing a note to
Marie telling him she is very happy. Are so sweet?
And the final question is for Caroline. Eb White and
Maurice Sundeck were both influenced by the time they spent
living in New York City, but they both eventually left
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for quieter places. Maurice and his partner Eugene lived in Connecticut,
but Be and his family moved to this state. Was
it a New Hampshire, be Maine or see Pennsylvania, Um Pennsylvania.
I'm so sorry. The answer is be Maine. Maine, and
the love of nature, animals and the outdoors played a
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big role in much of Evie's life, starting when he
was a boy, he spent summers in Maine as a
way to help his allergies, and as an adult lived
in Maine full time and had a farm. He came
up for the idea of Charlotte's web after seeing a
spider's web near the pigs in the barn. All this
main talk is pretty cool. But if you want to
read a great essay about a city, read Ubi Whites.
Here is New York. It's a fifty five page delight
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that's way shorter than a twenty chapter book about dragons
and almost as cool. And that's the end of the
round That heavenly music means it's the end of the game,
which means it's almost the end of the show. While
we wait for Jane to write out everyone's points in
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her web, I'd love to hear from the contestants, what
was something that you were surprised to learn about? Eb
White or Maurice sindec Athena, what's surprised you? Yeah, Maurice,
at some point in his life wanted to draw till
he died. Maurice really loved drawing more than anything else
in the world. Seems like even more than Mozart, and
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yeah he was. He continued working all the way up
until the very end of his life, which is very
exciting to me, someone who hopes to never retire and
to be always writing and always hosting podcasts until they
forced the microphone away from me in the hospital when
a very long Again, maybe I'm like a hundred hundred
fifty years old, and Elliott I, I steal the mic
from you all the time, and you know you're only
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twenty five years so that's true, that's true. Wait a minute,
was that a laugh from Athena at the idea that
I might be twenty five years old? Which it's true.
I am not at tring at a while. Let's move
on to Caroline. Caroline, what surprised you about eb White
or sine that he got inspiration for a Charlotte's web?
But seeing a spider web? Isn't it amazing how you
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can see something so small just in everyday life, and
suddenly it can turn into a story in your head.
I myself am also a picture book writer, and my
first picture book, which is called Worse Meats Dog, was
inspired by one seeing a dog looking at a horse
and trying to think about what does that dog think
about that horse? And isn't amazing You can just look
at animals and then suddenly you've got a story in
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your head. It can happen anywhere to anybody. I bet
tomorrow you will walk by something and you just glance
at something and you'll see it, and suddenly a whole
story would jump into your head. Hey, I've got an idea.
How about um uh, the giraffe in the attic, the
giraffe with the dragons or the giraffe and the dragons.
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Thank you both for sharing things that particularly spoke to
you in a surprising way about these figures from history.
Now for the great moment, Jane, please spin that news
in your web and announce our winner. Oh you've been
vi I don't mind telling you that once again, a
question about Maine has tripped up a contestant, Carolyn at
nine points, but my good friend Athena started ahead with twelve.
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Great job Tina and Carolyn, great job to the super
close game. Now Athena as our winner. You have ten
seconds for shoutouts. Who are you going to thank for
bringing you to this victory? Thanks Mom and Dad and
the school, besting m Chenna and altime besties come trying
to marry maryam Ses soon come time Nice. That's great.
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Now our winner in their library of choice for receiving
a selection who Was Books? And I'm going to give
my own shout out to intern Zach, to Jane Eric,
to Matt Zambrano for being our eb white and to be,
and a big thank you to both of our contestants
for playing a simply wonderful game today, and of course
thank you to you the listener for listening. Next week
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we'll find out about two more amazing people from the past.
Until then, Mrs Elliott Calin saying we are history. Goodbye.
Everybody got a question for any of our famous figures were?
Do you want to be a contestant? Send us a
voice memo at the Who Was Podcast at gmail dot
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This show was hosted by Elliott Caylin with co host
Megan O'Neill as be. It also stars Jane Baker as
Jane Eric Shackney as Eric and Matt Zambrano as E. B. White.
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for Penguin Workshop is, of course, Francesco Sadda, and our
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was written by Megan O'Neill, Elliott Caylin, and Devin Coleman.
He was produced by Bernie Kaminski and Taylor Kowalski. The
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the music were composed and performed by Eric Shackney. It
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Hi. Be uh. Why is Geraldine looking terrified and crouched
all the way on top of the bookshelf? Hi, Elliott Well.
In honor of one of our subjects today, writer E. B. White,
I thought it would be fun to bring in a
special guest star to play one of his beloved characters,
Stewart Little, who you know is a a mouse. I
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thought we learned this lesson after I brought my son's
class mouse in Elephants are scared of mice? Oh, Elliott,
I never learned. Well, at least you didn't bring in
a special guest star from our other subject, author Maury Sendek,
who famously wrote and illustrated Where the Wild Things Are?
Right about that? It's a wild thing, Geraldine, make room
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on that bookshelf. Wow, Elliot, great jump. Now let me
introduce you all to our other guest star, in honor
of Charlotte's Web, I also brought this spider. Would you
look at that? I didn't, Oh, mice and wild things
were afraid of spiders. Wilsa didn't realize that bookshelf could
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fold all that weight. It can't. Eric, here you go,
What do you think you know about the rates room?
This story? The game is on. Get some energy and
buckle up your brain because it's signed to play Who Was? Podcast?
(01:29):
Because it's time to favorites. Who Knows? Live from Tom
Bland or so called so Well Los Angeles. Welcome to
Who Was? The history quiz show that gives contestants the
chance to win mega prizes and podcast. Laurie, I'm your announcer,
Me and I have definitely earned my stripes. That's a
(01:50):
fee joke. And now here's your host, the man who
makes as many fashion rules as he breaks. It's Elliott Helen.
Thank you be you know today is fashion? Don't? Is
tomorrow's fashion? Do? And welcome everyone clue Who Was? Podcast?
This show is like Jeopardy, only with secret guests, silly games,
and an unpublished secret menu. Okay, if you know, you know.
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Our two contestants were sent who Was books about two
great figures from history. Now they're here to show off
their knowledge in the hopes of winning fantastic prizes. Prizes.
Today we're talking about Babe White and Maurice Sendeth to
popular children's book authors Pool Club to say any characters
just as much as we do. But before we learn
about them, let's learn about our contestants. First up, we
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have Athena. Athena, will you please introduce yourself. I'm Athena
and I have three cats. Alexander Hamilton's young in hammer
Claw and we will send off. I wrote my four
Johnny chapter book a year ago, and the pronouncer sheher,
oh wow, okay, so there was a lot of information
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in that, thank you. Those were all fun and all facts.
I'm interested in this book that you broke. Um it's
a twenty chapter book. Yeah? What is it about dragons?
That's the best word you could have said. I know,
I'm sure what word you were going to say, but
that was the perfect word. I didn't think it was
going to be that, but that's a great word for
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it to be. So what is the title of your book?
I have no idea. I wrote it a your Okay,
that's in the past. I love. I love this attitude,
which is, hey, I don't talk about my old work.
That's behind. I'm all about the future. So what are
you working on now? You're working on another book? Yeah?
Is it also about dragons? Yeah, it's the same series. Oh,
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it's part of a whole series. Wow, well that is
so exciting. Um, I cannot wait to read this. Um.
Once I find out what the title is, I will
definitely check it out from my local library. Yeah, I
can't wait when I go into a bookstore and I
say do you have this book and they say what's
it called? And I say, I don't know, but it's
about dragons and they say, we know exactly the book
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you're target exactly. Hey, that's just another instance if you know,
you know, it's the secret venue of books. All right,
And with a thank you so much for sharing Athena
and with us. Today we also have Caroline, Caroline, will
you please introduce yourself. Hi on Caroline Branssa share and
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I love drafts and you loved giraffe. Wow, that's so
cool because giraffes are like the dragons of the zoo
of the jungle, or zoo of the jungle, of these
two jungle zoon russ. Listen, this is not a show
about facts, except wait a minute, this is exactly a
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show about fact. So hold on. Yeah, well we'll we'll
love to wait for the who was giraffes? Yeah, this
is a quiz show. Come on, come on, Who's who's
supposed to be doing the quizzic right here, Carolyn, what
is it about giraffes you like so much? It's good answer,
not the answer I expected. Again getting a lot of
would unexpected answers from our contestants today. What I like
about giraffes is those knobs on the top of their heads.
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They're already super tall, they already have super long next,
they're already yellow. They don't need any extras, but they've
got them. Those weird knob horns on the top of
the head. What do they do? Did they serve a purpose?
The knob barns on top of their head? Oh, Producer
Jana saying, that's how you steer a giraffe. That makes sense. Okay,
see there's the steering knobs. Well, uh, please don't try
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at home, listeners, don't get on a draft and try
steering them with that would have a draft at home,
probably in your attic. It would just have to start
on the body floor and then end up in the
at it. Yeah, maybe it sticks his head up through
the chimney. Also, again, if you have a draft at home,
don't put its neck gun through the chimney. But it's
very likely you don't have a grab at home, in
which case if you'll get one and pick up that
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book about dragons. Thank you both Athena and Carolin for
being with us today. I'm very excited about this show today,
and of course thanks to our musician Eric for providing
that lovely mut the contestants music and all the music
on today's show. So that's who is. Now Let's find
out who was Eb White with four fast facts Prospects.
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EB White was born Elwyn Brooks White in eighteen ninety
nine and died in nineteen eighty five. He wrote over
twenty books for adults and kids, but he is best
known for writing the beloved children's books Stewart Little and
Charlotte's Web. He was also a poet, an essayist, and
a humorist, and contributed writing and drawings to some of
the most popular magazines of all time. He is a
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winner of many awards, including the Children's Literature Legacy Award
and an American Academy of Arts and Letters Gold Medal.
Fool Prospects. So, Athena and Caroline were wondering, had you
read any of EB White's books before you read the
book about EB White? Caroline, had you ever read either
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like Stewart Little, or Charlotte's Webb or Trumpeter of the Swan.
I don't think I've read that, but I definitely have
watched Charlotte tried it's reading. Okay, cool. What about you, Athena?
Had you read any of those books? Um? I almost
read The Stewart Little in fourth grade, but um instead
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I read am About Jackets. That's a good guess. That's
a good guess about what the other book was. So
have you seen any of the any of the movies
like Caroline has Nope, I didn't know they existed. Well,
the books themselves, they're really beautiful books. Their favorites in
our household. They're very interesting children's books because there's something
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very sweet about them, but there's also something a little
grown up about them. I feel like when I was
a kid, eb Whites books were the most grown up
children's books that I read, and they really made me
feel special that way, because it felt like I was
getting something more than more than I was used to
from kids books. They're really beautiful and a little sad,
so be per pair you've been worn. If you're reading
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an ev White book, make sure you've got a box
of tissues next to you, because you're gonna be a
prion and we need to drive those two ears. Yeah,
thank you both so much for joining us. And let's
punctually this delightful conversation with our first game, one that
honors Evie White's poetry as much as his pros. It's
everyone's favorite rhyme with two lines, it's a couplet. One
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it's a couplet. It's a couplet. In this game, we
have a rhyming couplet with one word missing. Fill in
the blank with the correct rhyming word. So, for example,
if I said something like, when I look out the window,
I see a tree and on a branchise by my
co host named the correct answer is b which rhymes
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with tree. Also, be get down from there, be get
back in the Cdo I told you I prefer to
work under dangerous conditions. Fine, and since this is our
first game, each question is worth one point. Take it away,
be Athena. Here is your couplict E B. White was
certainly no fool, But when he was a kid, he
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did not like going to school. That's right, The answer
is school. Young Eb disliked school. That Pobe was still
always writing. He kept a journal for his entire life,
starting at age nine. He also won prizes for his writing.
At the age of nine. He went on to be
the editor of his college newspaper, and he enjoyed a
class about grammar from one of his college professors, William Strunk, Jr.
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And he revised Strunk's book The Elements of Style later
in his life. Okay, the next question is for Carolyn.
For a while, Ebe once worked on a cruise ship,
but before that went with his pal on a cross
country road trip. That's exactly right. The ANSWER's road trip.
After college, Ebe wasn't sure what he should do next,
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so he and his friend decided to go across the
country in a Model T car they called Hotspur pretty
coolly in for a car. They drove from New York
State and ended up in Washington State, where Evie took
a job writing for the Seattle Times newspaper. Pevie later
wrote about these adventures as magazine articles. Through his experience,
he learned that he wanted to write about life as
he saw it. Okay, the next question is for Athena.
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Be take it away, Athena, here's your couplet. Before eb
wrote Charlotte's web featuring a famous porker. He lived in
New York and wrote humor pieces for a magazine, The
New Yorker. Exactly right. The answer is the New Yorker,
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and the New Yorker is a very influential magazine that
helps start the careers of some of America's most important writers.
But not me. They've rejected several pieces I've submitted. Abe
like the way that they combined news articles, humor pieces, poetry,
and cartoons. The New Yorker even helped to shape Ebe's
life by introducing him to other writers and to his
future wife, Katherine Sergeant Angle, who was a writer and
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the fiction editor at The New Yorker. Maybe you've never
heard of Catherine, but she was instrumental in shaping American literature.
The next question is wor Carolyn for e b The
character of Stuart Little was a sure bet When he
was young. He even had a mouse as a pet.
That's right. The answer is pet Ebe kept a house
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mouse as a pet. The idea for Stuart Little came
to eb and the dream. He talked about it with
Anne Carol Moore, an important children's librarian. She didn't think
it was a good idea for a book, so he
put the idea away for years until a different editor
loved the idea. When he published Swart Little and Carol
Moore gave it a bad review and he was even
banned from some libraries. EB thought he had made a
big mistake until thousands of fan letters from kids poured in.
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It remains one of the best selling children's books of
all time. And that's the end of the game. It's
a couple of that. It's a couple of amazing. Now
let's scurry over to producer Jane with the spods HELLI
and B. I don't mind telling you we have a
tied game with two points each. Thank you Jane. And now,
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ladies and genm and mice, spiders and pigs, please welcome
to the show. EB whites bangs who was wandering in
the best? Hey, e B? Did anyone ever call you EBB?
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Like ed but with a B? Yeah? Absolutely not cool?
That can be our thing? Then may I refuse? Wait
a minute here. The lesseners at home can't see this,
but EB has a soundboard in front of him and
he's hitting a different key at the end of his sentences,
and I sure, am there's that point again, what gives Well.
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I'm best known for my work as a children's book author,
but certainly more influential was my revision of the writing manual,
The Elements of Style. I thought that was a book
about like how to pull off wearing fancy clothes or
how to match shoes and all that. Oh, romm it be.
The Elements of Style is the book on the American
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English writing style and punctuation. It's been named one of
the best and most influential books of all time by
critics and authors. Alight, okay, but it's a grammar book.
But grammar can be fun. I went up this soundboard
here to play a different sound effect to represent different
punctuation for your listening audience, grammar and funny noises. I
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never thought all my interests with a line so completely.
This is genious. Ev I took the liberty of adding
an exclamation point on the end of that sentence for you. Now,
let me take you through the soundboard. If I were
to say, may I have a glass of milk? You'd
know it was a question by the violin string sound effect.
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And if I remember my manners and said may I
have a glass of milk? Please? Then you'd know there
was a comma before the please, and those wiggly sounds
mean quotations. The tap is just the plane as you
please period. Wow? What about apostrophes, ellipses, semi colon? Yeah,
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now you're getting it. Would you like to try it? Sure,
Scooch should ad b I'm pretty sure he was talking
to me. I'm the grammar enthusiast here. I turned your
statement into a question. You should have hit the tap sound.
That wasn't a semi cool and that was a statement.
Oh no, he put your statement in quotations. It's been
rendered ironic. I'm just having funned with the Butlins boys.
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She just flipped three exclamation points on the end of
that statement. This is chaos. Oh dear, now she found
the anson. You must be stopped. Would the love of
grammar do something to just combobulate that? My mind is
a jungle of quote some samas. Hello, producer Jane, what
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I um plugged it? Producer Jane? My hero? Oh I
shall never forget you. Now I must be off. I'm
having chicken fingers with Shakespeare. You help me have some
new poems. Thanks again for having me, and thanks again?
Who was who? Thank you, Jane. Let's take a quick break.
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We'll be back with more games, So don't go anywhere. Eric,
play us some elements of style music, please ye before
you we're back on the Who Was podcast. Today we're
finding out who was Evie White and who was Maurice
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Sendack And now back to your host, Elliott Palin. Thank you. Be.
Let's keep the game moving and find out who was
Marie Sendak with four fast facts or hoss re. Sendak
was born in nineteen and died in twelve. Marie Sendek
was the son of Polish Jewish immigrants and grew up
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in Brooklyn, New York. Marie wrote and illustrated many of
the most beloved children's books, including Where the Wild Things
Are in the Night Kitchen and Chicken Soup with Rice.
He is a celebrated lgbt q I, a hero, and
he has two elementary schools named after him. Okay, now
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we're wondering the same thing that we wondered about Ebe
White's books. Had either of you read any of Maurice
sendacs books before you read the Who Was Marie Sendeck book?
I think in like first grade, our teacher read Where
the Wild Things Are but like I'm mostly remember the pictures. Yeah,
the pictures are really he drew those. I think Marie
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Sendeck wouldn't mind that held picture. They're really gorgeous. Marie Sendex.
Arc is very It's very beautiful, and it's also can
be very funny, and it can also be very scary,
and it can also be very moving. Uh, it's really amazing.
I'm speaking about him a lot because I'm gonna let
the you and the audience speak behind the curtain. My
wife is a children's life Barry, and we talk about
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children's books a lot in my house, and Recendec is
a particular favorite of ours, very special in our house. Carolin,
knowing that, knowing how important re Scendec is to me,
have you ever read any of his books? I don't
think the wild? Where the wild? Okay, I'll take that.
I'll take that. Since we're all familiar with where the
wild things are. Let's let the wild rumps start with
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our next game sound effects Safari sound effects sound fetsioggery
sound effects faggery Why did they take a baby on
a Safari? In this game, we will play a sound
effect inspired by something important from Recendex life our contestants
will tell us what the sound effect represents. Because this
is our second game, each question is worth two points.
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Here is our first sound effect for Caroline. That was
Mickey Mouse's iconic laugh. Why is Mickey Mouse significant for
Maurice's life? Is it because a Maurice was rejected from
a job at Disney or be Mickey Mouse was Maurice's
childhood hero? B That's right, The answer is being Mickey
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Mouse was born the same year as Maurice. Marie said
he loved Mickey Mouse because he was quote sassy and
always thinking of ways to outdo people. At least the
original version of Mickey was that way. Maurice would see
Mickey Mouse films at the theater, he would leap up
on his seat and scream. His sister and brother had
to hold him down. Maurice named Mickey the main character
of his book In the Night Kitchen after Mickey Mouse. Okay,
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next question is for Athena. Yeah, that sound effect for
you is kids playing outside? Which answer best describes why
this is significant to Maurice? Is it a Maurice was
often sick as a child and watched his neighbor's play
from inside his house. Or be. Maurice was once commissioned
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by the Borough of Brooklyn to create a Maurice Sendek playground.
H A, that's right. The answer is A. Maurice often
watched the kids in his neighborhood from his parents window.
He said, quote, so many happy memories are being indoors
and looking out windows. Later in life, I'll staying with
his parents. Maurice overheard kids in the neighborhood talking to
each other. One Katie always noticed was a bold girl
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named Rosie. He was so delighted by hearing the stories
she told other kids. He used her as the inspiration
for his book The Sign on Rosie's Door, which became
a musical called Really Rosie, another favorite in the Calin household.
The next sound effect is for Caroline boy v smra zoltsvaksena.
Okay Carolin. That was Elliott speaking in Yiddish. Why would
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this be significant to Maurice's life? Is it? A? His
favorite musical was Fiddler on the Roof or B. As
the son of Polish immigrants, much of his fami only
spoke Yiddish. B. That's right. The answer is be. Maurice's
parents immigrated from Poland. His family was Jewish, so they
spoke Yiddish at home. Maurice's book Where the Wild Things
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Are was inspired by the phrase of ild Ojaiah, which
his mother called him when he was a boy. This
roughly translates to wild animal in English. His Yiddish relatives
used to say to him, who looks so good? I
could eat you up, which is very similar to what
the wild things say to Max, the little boy in
the book. The final question is for Athena that is
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a snippet from a Mozart song. How does this sound
effect relate to Maurice senday? Is it a Maurice loved
and was inspired by Mozart's music? Or b he had
a beloved pet cat he named mozart A. That's right,
The answer is a. Maurice once said, I know if
there's a purpose in life, it was for me to
hear Mozart. I mean, wow, this guy loved Mozart. Later
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in his career, Maurice designed costumes from Mozart's opera The
Magic Flute, and he went on to design over a
dozen more operas, including an operatic adaptation of his book
Where the Wild Things Are? And That's sound effects Safari
sound effects Safari Sari sound effects. Amazing game, everybody. You're
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both doing so well. Let's wild rump us over to
producer Jane to get the scores. Oh, it'd be We
have a tie still with six points each, and don't
go anywhere. We'll be back for our final game after this.
Pick quick, Eric, please play us some guild Ohaia music.
Please you're giving me Saurus Sally. Who was Marie Curie?
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You may remember me from winning multiple Nobel prizes or
FAPs from my episode of the Worst Podcast where I
played myself. I wanted to take a moment to read
one of my favorite reviews about the Whoas podcast. This
is from Shaken Bay and it reads loved this Me
and my little sister love this show more. Please. Our
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faith is Ariet Toman. If you want to hear your
review right on the app, make sure to subscribe, like,
and review to the Wah's podcast in the I Heart
Radio up or wherever you give your podcasts revoir or
should I stay abiato. We're back on the Whos podcast
(22:38):
where we're learning all about who was Ebie White and
who was Maurice Kenda? And now back to your host,
Elliot Kaitlin, thank you be With not a moment to lose,
We're heading on to our last game, Converge of Greatness.
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In this multiple choice game, we'll explore how our famous
people connect, overlap, or converge. Choose the best answer for
each question, and because this is covering double the topics
of our last game, it will be worth triple the points.
I know it sounds mad, but that's how we do
things on the who Has podcast. The first question is
for a theme. E. B. White and Marie Sendek worked
with this editor who helped publish some of America's favorite
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children's books. Was that person a Ursula Nordstrom, b Amelia
Badelia or see Mr Popper, Penguins Random House. That's right,
the answer is a Ersla Nordstrom was the editor to
both Morty Sendek and Evie White. Editors worked with authors
to help them improve their books. Ursula helped Morris Land
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his first illustrating work, and when Ursla read Stuart Little,
she knew it was something special. She helped Evie publish it,
even after others put it down. She worked with Lebe
on Charlotte's Web and the Trumpet of the Swan. Ursula
what a visionary. Okay, next question is for Caroline. World
War two greatly affected Maurice and eb White. Sadly, Maurice
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lost most of his extended family in Poland in the Holocaust.
He responded to this terrible loss with the art and
words of his books. Eb White responded to the end
of the war by writing A Stewart Little Too, Let's
Get Tiny, be his first and only rock album. Or
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see a book about an ideal government called Wild Flag. Yes,
you're right, the answer is see. Inspired by the First
Meeting of the United Nations, Evie wrote The Wild Flag,
a book filled with ideas on how one world government
could give everyone the same basic freedoms. Abe also wrote
pieces in support of the civil rights movement in nineteen
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sixties and was early environmentalist who helped scientist and writer
Rachel Carson get published early in her career. We have
an episode about Rachel Carson. Go check it out. It's great.
But first before you do that, hold on, no go anywhere.
Check out this next question. It's for a theme. Both
eb White and Maurice Sendek were dog people. That doesn't
mean they had wet noses and floppy ears. It means
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they love dogs. E b had a dog that would
walk him home from school most days, and Maurice wrote
a book all about his beloved dog, who was named
a Mozart B Max or C. Jenny. That's right, The
answer is C. Maurice called his dog Jenny the love
of my life. As long as she was alive, Jenny
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was featured somewhere in every book Marie drew. When Jenny
started nearing the end of her life, Maurice wrote a
book all about her called Giggledy Piggledy Pop that ends
with her leaving home forever but writing a note to
Marie telling him she is very happy. Are so sweet?
And the final question is for Caroline. Eb White and
Maurice Sundeck were both influenced by the time they spent
living in New York City, but they both eventually left
(25:54):
for quieter places. Maurice and his partner Eugene lived in Connecticut,
but Be and his family moved to this state. Was
it a New Hampshire, be Maine or see Pennsylvania, Um Pennsylvania.
I'm so sorry. The answer is be Maine. Maine, and
the love of nature, animals and the outdoors played a
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big role in much of Evie's life, starting when he
was a boy, he spent summers in Maine as a
way to help his allergies, and as an adult lived
in Maine full time and had a farm. He came
up for the idea of Charlotte's web after seeing a
spider's web near the pigs in the barn. All this
main talk is pretty cool. But if you want to
read a great essay about a city, read Ubi Whites.
Here is New York. It's a fifty five page delight
(26:38):
that's way shorter than a twenty chapter book about dragons
and almost as cool. And that's the end of the
round That heavenly music means it's the end of the game,
which means it's almost the end of the show. While
we wait for Jane to write out everyone's points in
(26:59):
her web, I'd love to hear from the contestants, what
was something that you were surprised to learn about? Eb
White or Maurice sindec Athena, what's surprised you? Yeah, Maurice,
at some point in his life wanted to draw till
he died. Maurice really loved drawing more than anything else
in the world. Seems like even more than Mozart, and
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yeah he was. He continued working all the way up
until the very end of his life, which is very
exciting to me, someone who hopes to never retire and
to be always writing and always hosting podcasts until they
forced the microphone away from me in the hospital when
a very long Again, maybe I'm like a hundred hundred
fifty years old, and Elliott I, I steal the mic
from you all the time, and you know you're only
(27:42):
twenty five years so that's true, that's true. Wait a minute,
was that a laugh from Athena at the idea that
I might be twenty five years old? Which it's true.
I am not at tring at a while. Let's move
on to Caroline. Caroline, what surprised you about eb White
or sine that he got inspiration for a Charlotte's web?
But seeing a spider web? Isn't it amazing how you
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can see something so small just in everyday life, and
suddenly it can turn into a story in your head.
I myself am also a picture book writer, and my
first picture book, which is called Worse Meats Dog, was
inspired by one seeing a dog looking at a horse
and trying to think about what does that dog think
about that horse? And isn't amazing You can just look
at animals and then suddenly you've got a story in
(28:27):
your head. It can happen anywhere to anybody. I bet
tomorrow you will walk by something and you just glance
at something and you'll see it, and suddenly a whole
story would jump into your head. Hey, I've got an idea.
How about um uh, the giraffe in the attic, the
giraffe with the dragons or the giraffe and the dragons.
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Thank you both for sharing things that particularly spoke to
you in a surprising way about these figures from history.
Now for the great moment, Jane, please spin that news
in your web and announce our winner. Oh you've been
vi I don't mind telling you that once again, a
question about Maine has tripped up a contestant, Carolyn at
nine points, but my good friend Athena started ahead with twelve.
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Great job Tina and Carolyn, great job to the super
close game. Now Athena as our winner. You have ten
seconds for shoutouts. Who are you going to thank for
bringing you to this victory? Thanks Mom and Dad and
the school, besting m Chenna and altime besties come trying
to marry maryam Ses soon come time Nice. That's great.
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Now our winner in their library of choice for receiving
a selection who Was Books? And I'm going to give
my own shout out to intern Zach, to Jane Eric,
to Matt Zambrano for being our eb white and to be,
and a big thank you to both of our contestants
for playing a simply wonderful game today, and of course
thank you to you the listener for listening. Next week
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we'll find out about two more amazing people from the past.
Until then, Mrs Elliott Calin saying we are history. Goodbye.
Everybody got a question for any of our famous figures were?
Do you want to be a contestant? Send us a
voice memo at the Who Was Podcast at gmail dot
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com it or you might just end up on the show.
The Who Was Podcast is produced by a Radio Point,
I Heart Media and Penguin Workshop, and is based on
the best selling who each q series published by Penguin.
This show was hosted by Elliott Caylin with co host
Megan O'Neill as be. It also stars Jane Baker as
Jane Eric Shackney as Eric and Matt Zambrano as E. B. White.
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Our executive producers are Richard Corson, Alex Bach, Elliot Calin,
Megan O'Neil, Daniel Powell, and Houston Snyder. Our executive producer
for Penguin Workshop is, of course, Francesco Sadda, and our
executive producer Fry Heart Media is Lindsay Hoffman. This episode
was written by Megan O'Neill, Elliott Caylin, and Devin Coleman.
He was produced by Bernie Kaminski and Taylor Kowalski. The
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talent was produced by Jane Baker. The theme song and
the music were composed and performed by Eric Shackney. It
was edited and mixed by Kate moulden Hower. It was
recorded by Alison Worth. Special thanks to Zach Timpson, Charlotte DeAnda,
Daniel Goodman, Michael Lewis Howard. Special thanks to all of them.
The Who Was Podcast was recorded at the iHeart Studios
in Los Angeles, California. Sound services were provided by who
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