December 25, 2024 • 75 mins
A caller tells me how spontaneously moving across country one night led to their wild life over the last decade, and a final caller tries to embark on an adventure of their own.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up man? How you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm pretty good yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
You know, I am trying my best. I am having
new epiphanies about life every single day, some of them
contradicting each other. Sometimes it feels like, you know, sometimes
I feel like I have like a life epiphany, and
(00:26):
then tomorrow I have the opposite one. In the day
after that, I have the original one. And it's like
I'm going in complete circles. But maybe maybe I'm like
going in circles. I'm trying to, like with words describe
how I see this visually, Like you know, I'm like
going in circles, but the circles are moving a little
(00:47):
bit to the right every time, So it's like a
loop that event Yeah, it's like a loop that just
event that goes eventually moves forward in that way. You know,
you kind of visualize what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, I have different epiphanies every single day, so the
light is always seeming to throw a little bit of
a loop at you.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I see that you are not a plus one area code.
Where are you calling from?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I'm calling from Australia. I moved to Australia about three
years ago.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Okay, are you American.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, yeah, I'm from Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Cool. Where and where in Australia did you move?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I moved to Sydney, so one of the most expensive cities.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
In the world.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And why did you move from Why did you move
from Kansas City, which is not one of the most
expensive cities in the world to sid.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
So I'm actually like one of your other callers that
called it like a like probably like ten podcasts ago
get the whole cool work steme and I ended up
in Alaster and then I just started traveling around the
you asked working at different places, different resorts, and that
(02:04):
led me to eventually you know then like a few
other people on here and been like, oh, I want
to go to Australia. So I ended up in Australia.
I'm a chef, so I've been cooking for about three
years out here.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Cool. Very cool. You said you were like one of
the other callers that did the what thing.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So you know the caller who went up to what
is that Yellowstone and he was just working out there
and yeah, so that same website. I went and got
a job off when I was twenty one, so I'm
well twenty seven, so I'm thirty four and now and
(02:49):
I've been doing the whole traveling thinking about eight years.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Now, how's that going for you? Because I think a
lot about what a fully nomadic life would be like,
and I've been in periods of time in my life
in which I felt very nomadic, and I'm curious, eight years,
how does that work out for you? How are you
(03:12):
feeling about it?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh? Man, you kind of uh, you really get used
to traveling and just keeping the minimum amount of stuff.
Like my whole life up until these last three years
could fit in three or four suitcases and I would
just get up and go. I'm driven across the US,
like four times I used to live in Oregon, drove
(03:35):
down to Florida, like the very tip of Florida, that
work down there. You really, uh, you really get to
know outside of yourself that a lot of people won't
know because they're never alone so much and celebrating holidays
and all that stuff. You really got to grow a
family outside of your family.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Do you have a family.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I actually just found out my girlfriend and here in Australia,
is pregnant.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
No way, yeah, so are you are you go? Are
you having the baby?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah? We are? Wait so I actually it was a
whole spill. I just quit my job last week and
I have another job lined up, and uh, pretty much
two days after I quit my job, she's like, yeah,
I'm pregnant and we're moving about eight hours away from
(04:36):
Sydney right now, So we got a whole.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Where are you going to move?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
We're headed up to Balina. I don't know if you
made it up to like the Byron Bay, Ballina area
while you were here.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
No, but I heard about Byron Bays. That's like where
all the no, I'm thinking of Bondi Beach, that's where
all the like tours go to die.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah. Yeah, Byron Bay is also another popular spot. It's
where Chris employd and Hugh Jackman, they all live out there.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And so this, uh, this lovely lady. Did you meet
her in Australia?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, yeah, so we actually met on the apps. I
know a lot of people have a lot of trouble
about meeting people on the apps, but it's it's more
of a persistence game and a numbers game than it
is you know, finding somebody right away. You know how
many the apps for a long time?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
How many appdates did you go on until you met
your girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Uh whoosh, Jesus, probably over one hundred easily over wow?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Really over one hundred?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah yeah yeah, But I'm I'm an old man, so
I've been using them. It's pretty much they came out
and I've been in different cities.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And what was it about this one that made it
different from the other one hundred?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
She was just pretty awesome. Like, honestly, all the girl
all the app dates that I've been on in Australia
have been pretty fruitful, like updated somebody that I've pretty
much met every single time. But she was she was
just different man, Like I didn't have to be stone
(06:35):
to be around her and like all that stuff. So
it just kind of really worked out when I first
met her. We met on Australia Day and we ended
up hanging out for like six and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Now, what is Australia Date? You guys don't just have
like Hinge and Tinder.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Australia Day. It's like, uh, it's a holiday. So Australia
Day is like Independence Day or like Columbus Day.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Oh oh oh oh oh wait you met up on
Australia Day. Yeah, okay, I thought you said you met
her on a website called Australia Date.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, we we actually met on Hinge.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Okay you understand, Okay, you understand. You understand where that
misunderstanding came from, right, Yeah, for sure, I was like, what,
I guess there's a website where you can just date Australian.
What was the other The other thing you said is
you said that you felt like you had to be
high to be around some of these people. Tell me
(07:46):
more about that.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, I used to actually this year stop smoking weed
as well. So, uh, I was just stoned all the time, man,
and like just being around people, and I felt like
that wasn't the only way I could communicate with people
because I was constantly stoned, and maybe nobody would like
me if I was constantly stoned. And yeah, the first
(08:11):
time I was ever around her, I just wasn't stoned,
and it was it was a real eye opener. It
was an epissan if you, like you said where I
was like, okay, I can do this, m m. Yeah.
Was as anxious?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Was it was it that you just kind of felt
a constant state of anxiety and weed was like the
only way to get past it.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, And actually, uh, once I stopped smoking and I
got away from the weed. Actually the anxiety actually went down.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, so the weave.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Was actually making me really paranoid, at which I didn't
notice because you know, I'm waking up smoking three or
four bulls, going to work on my breaks, smoke some more,
smoke some more before I go to sleep. So I
was just like in constant marijuana hayes.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Mm hmmmm hm. Yes, what what made you want to quit? Recently?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I ran a marathon. I ran a marathon, and uh,
in order to prepare for the marathon, I just cut back,
cut back to back, and I, uh, before I had
a kate, This is before I knew I was having
a kid. I just didn't want to like smoke around
my kid or you know, be a stoner. I don't
(09:41):
care about like smoking weed every so often or whatever
like that, but like I just didn't want to be
like a stone dad. M So it all worked out, Yeah,
it was. It was. It was more so that I
was smoking nicotine with the marijuana, and I wanted to
(10:05):
play it away from that. So yeah, yeah, exactly, I
wanted to get away from that. I always told myself
I wouldn't smoke nicotine. But you know, we do things
in life that we said we wouldn't do.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
How long was your weed career prior to.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Quit, probably like thirteen years?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, every day?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Initially, no, but once so I moved out to Oregon
when I was about twenty three, and the weed is
so cheap out there and it's so good that you know,
it just kind of let me down a rabbit hole
and smoking more and more blah blah blah. So it's
(10:53):
been it's been quite a journey.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
The part about anxietyety like you smoke weed to alleviate anxiety,
but then you find that this weird converse way. It's
like you get high and then you get more anxious
and more parentally exactly. But and I and I wonder,
and again this is not the Andrew Huberman podcast, but
(11:19):
I do wonder, is like, is weed making me is
like a self fulfilling prophecy, where like weed makes me
anxious on the days that I am not smoking as well.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, that's why I was fine in too. And it
is because they say, like marijuana is an addictive and
that was like in you know, the nineteen seventies where
the weed wasn't thirty six percent and thc and stuff
like that, and you know, it's just a lot more accessible,
a lot more open. It's not what it used to be.
(11:54):
So I think as it becomes stronger, it does become
more addictive, especially you're young and you're using. I definitely
think that your body can get like dependent on having that.
It may not be you know, uh, as physically of
a bad addiction as like heroin or other opie images
(12:16):
stuff like that, but like the mental addiction is what
I think gets a lot of people in strays, keeps
on from quitting and stuff like that, because it is.
It was very hard, and a large part of it,
like I told you, was the nicotine for me. And
then you're smoking blunts and stuff like that, then you're
(12:38):
definitely getting like that constant like nicotine high to where
you're not even noticing, and uh, it would be definitely
a lot harder for you to quit.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Mm hmmm hmm. Have you replaced it with anything else,
whether it's something negative or positive.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, honestly, I just been focusing on life, being able
to run longer, like I said, I've been during marathon.
So this year I'm training for an iron Man and
just stuff like that trying to keep my body busy,
trying to keep my mind busy. It's like you said,
(13:18):
with masturvation, as long as you're out of the house,
you're not thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I love the fuck it. I love the things. I
love the things that I just fucking say on this podcast,
not really really not registering that anyone actually hears them.
And then and then someone says, remember when you said
that you should just be out of the house as
much as you can so you don't masturbate as much,
And I'm like, oh, yeah, you really did say that
(13:44):
a lot. Yeah, and you know, and I fully stand
by it. I stand by it a lot because it's true.
Whenever I'm in the house, you know, it's uh, it's
a problem. But I don't do it outside because that's
a weak. Yeah. I think I would. I'd like to
think even if I'd like to think, even if it
(14:06):
wasn't illegal, I still wouldn't do it outside. But I
don't know. Who knows what life is like. It might
be kind. I mean, people do it, people definitely, even
though it's illegal, People definitely do it. People people do it.
I saw a guy jacking off on Venice Beach once,
and you know what the crazy thing is is nobody cared.
(14:27):
Nobody cared at all because it's what they expect. It's
like when you see it's like if when you're walking
through New York and you're on the subway, if you
just see guy masturbating, you're kind of like, at least
I'm kind of like, well that it's not It's like
seeing a palm tree in Florida. You know, it's like,
this is what it is?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
This is it?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Nobody people are just on their phones. No one really
they avoid them, but they just you know, everyone's just
trying to get to where they want to be. So, uh,
what do you what's your job now? You're still a chef, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I've been a chef for about, yeah, thirteen years. So
in the entire time i've been chefing, I've been smoking weed. Yeah.
I never went to culinary school or anything. If anybody
is listening, they want to become a chef, just get
a job in a kitchen. Deep, So to go to
culinary school.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
What's your name again, I'm not going to forget this time.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
My name is Ron.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Ron.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
That's my dad's name.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, Ron, give me a map, So you graduate high
school at eighteen, and then you're running around for a while.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Where all did you run around to?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So from eighteen twenty one, I stayed in Kansas City.
When I was twenty one, I actually smoked a shit
ton of weed one night and I ended up getting
on a grade Hound and moving to Order and.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You just I don't breeze past the story.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So you just.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Got really like what you're in your mom's house or
you're where are you like? And you just get really
hot outside that night to move.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah. So I'm I'm a hot box in the car
with my friend. We probably smoked like five or six months.
And I get home and it's like an Alexati experience
and I'm like, I don't know, I can't be here anymore.
I't my life is going to pass me by if
I don't leave right now. So I packed the backpack
(16:35):
full of clothes, drove down to the Greyhound station and
bought a ticket to Organ because I was supposed to
go with an ex girlfriend and we got broken up.
And I'm like, yeah, no, I don't want to stay
in Kansas City. I'm going anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
And I didn't know anybody. I didn't have a plan
or anything like that. I ended up surviving out there
for eight months before I had to go home. My
sister told me, like, you could say, at my house
for three months for free, or you can go back
out to Oregon. And yeah, I ended up taking that
(17:16):
three months learning to cook at waffle house, and then
I went back out to Oregon and I ended up
getting a job in six days working in the kitchen.
So it was off to the races after.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Then the first those first eight months that you were
surviving in Oregon, after just that night packing up and
you just what you showed up with a backpack and yep,
that's it.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, I had two hundred and eighty dollars in my pocket.
I actually I had like couldn't cocted a plan on
the bus where like after I woke up. Either it
was Stony Hays where I'm like, oh shit, I'm on
my way to Oregon. So I was like, Okay, let
me see if I can you know, play nice enough
(18:10):
or you know, show off my personality to eat to
where somebody will let me crash on their couch. And yeah,
that's exactly what happened. One of the chicks on the bus,
she's like, you look extremely young. I know you're coming
out here to survive and try to figure it out.
But if you ever need a place to stay, there's
(18:30):
my number and give me a call. I stayed one
night in the hotel, gave her a call, and then
she let me crash on her couch for about two
months until I got on my feet.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You met a woman on the Greyhound bus to Oregon
that you ended up staying with for two months?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, on her couch. Yeah it was. It was one
of the thirtiest places I've ever stayed. But you know,
at the end of the at the end of the night,
I was able to sleep somewhere with a roof over
my head, and I was happy. They were some of
the nicest people I've ever.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Met who was in this house.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
It was her and her girlfriend at the time.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's so wild. That's they just You've just got so
you got really lucky on that one.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, I did. And I Oregon gives out food stamps
like their water, so I was just paying for rent
those first two months and food stamps. I'm like, I
get two hundred and fifty dollars worth of food stamps.
This is all I can afford to give you. You
can have it all. Here's the cart.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
And then once I got a job, I got lucky
again because my boss at that job was like, hey,
I need a roommate. Cool, how much is rent? And
rent was about three hundred dollars. So I'm working at
seven eleven and working with my boss.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And what year is this?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
This is two thousand and twelve slash thirteen.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Wow? And so when you all right, so you got
on a Greyhound bus and go to Oregon. You meet
this lady? How soon after you arrived did you get
a job? And then how'd you get that?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Two months? And I was just walking around adding, as
you know, going out giving out my resumes and stuff
like that, because the internet isn't as crazy as it
is now even ten years ago. So I'm just walking
around giving out my resume. Hey, my name is Ron.
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If you need anybody to work, I'm your guy. The
place was actually about two and a half miles from
my house, so I'm walking to Mount two and a
half miles to work two and a half miles back
every single day.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Really.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah. Eventually I got a skateboard to make it a
little bit easier, so that was my car. But yeah,
worked in eight ten hours every single day.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Damn dude. How long were you there for?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
All?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Eight months?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah? Yeah? And then I went back home to Kansas
City for a bit, and then I ended up going
back out to Oregon and beginning my journey as a chef.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
What did that look like? Beginning your journey as a chef?
By the way, just so you know, Ron, I don't
know what your plans are for tonight, but I'm fully
prepared for this entire podcast episode of your life because
I'm fascinated by you.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
So yeah, thank you loud, thank you. Aud So, after
I got back, like I told you, I had to
start cooking at the waffle house. I know you're from
like the Northeast area. I don't know if you've been
to a waffle house.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, yeah, I used to. They have in Georgia where
I was a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Okay, Yeah, So I was working there, working nights, and
I told my sister while I had been out in Oregon,
I had heard chefs that were, you know, making thirteen
fourteen dollars an hour at the time, I'm like, that's
good money. So I told my sister teach me how
to cook. And then when I got back to Oregon,
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I was working at a barbecue joint. It wasn't really fulfilling,
so I started working at a restaurant called Goostops. It's
closed now. It was a German spot. I had no
knowledge of them and food anything of the sorts. But
my chef, she uh looked at me and she's like,
(23:08):
you know, normally only hired people with a culinary degree,
but you see, you got a little bit of cooking experience.
You seem like you got your head on your shoulders.
So I'm going to give you a trial. And I
went in there and I just you know, killed. It
followed everything and everybody was settling me. H went straight
(23:30):
to the line. I wasn't doing dishes, I wasn't doing prep.
I was right on the line with the rest of
the other chefs and just trial by fire and it
was u it was an experience. H first night, I
sliced my hand open, and uh, I still had to
finish another six hours of putting my hand underneath the
(23:53):
salamander and working and stuff like that. So like it
was it. It was a intense first day and just
that first day made me fall in love with working
in the kitchen. It was a bunch of pirates and
you know, people just yelling and just pure chaos, like
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this is this is it? This is for me?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Fuck you, fuck you? And that was And you said
that was eight years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
That was two thousand and fourteen, So about ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Now, wow, And how long are you in Oregon after that?
After you start working there?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
So I lived in Oregon for another seven years. I
ended up I ended up cooking breakfast and stuff, had
a number of notable joints around there. And then me
and my brother we were being roommates. He has been
a piece of shit, so I ended up moving her out.
(25:01):
I ended up finding the website cool Works, and uh,
I didn't really like where my life was going at
the time. You know, I had got this travel bug.
It's where I'm like, Okay, I made it in Portland,
let's see if I can do it somewhere else. So uh,
(25:23):
down that website and I ended up applying to go
to Alaska and that was an amazing trip in itself.
Like I was out there for about six months, living, working,
and eating all for free. So yeah, did that. Then
(25:48):
I came back to Oregon just didn't feel right after
I had left.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So you said, I'm sorry. You said in in uh,
in Oregon it didn't feel right, or in Alaska didn't
feel right.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
In Oregon. After I came back from Alaska, I still
had this like deep burning passion to go out and
travel and you know, see more of the world. Uh
So I ended up taking a job in Wyoming, and
that was an experience in myself. I actually got to
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work with a lot of celebrities and I cook that
one of the fanciest resorts in the world, and just
like really learning what it meant to be a chef,
not just cooking one cuisine and all that stuff. I
got to work in a French kitchen underneath a very
(26:50):
good chef and while being able to elevate all of
my skills and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
So you, uh, well, first of all, I just want
to say, it's the fact that you spent seven years
in Oregon is pretty crazy, because whatever was in that
weed that night just fucking changed the entire course of
your life. Like that's that's amazing. I really, I just
(27:20):
and you initially picked that place because you were gonna
go there with the next girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, yeah, And one night.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I love I love it. You're just one night. You're
just like, dude, fuck this, I'm not waiting anymore. I'm
fucking going tonight. So cool. Yeah, and then you just
fucking make it happen. Do you still keep in contact
at all with the lady who's couch just left on?
Or is she gone?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Uh Na? We haven't talked in years, but you know,
I still send her like the random happy days for
message and stuff like that, and her and her and
the chick that she was day and they actually ended
up breaking up and she just had her ex girlfriend
just had a baby, So I congratulated her on all
(28:07):
that stuff. So I made sure they knew that they
were appreciated. I ended up going back after I got
a job and moved out, and ended up giving them
like four or five hundred dollars just to say thank you. Cool. Yeah,
they they they they really saved me. I could have
(28:27):
been somewhere out on the street and really struggling, but
you know, they gave me a chance, and every opportunity
I've gotten while I've been on this journey, I've just
made the best of it and taking a chance. That's
really all it took.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I want to I want to get back to your
wyomic adventure. But first I have a I have a
question for you. If someone is listening to this right
now and they're inspired by your your bold your boldness, okay,
and they were to maybe do a bold move as
(29:09):
you did, is there anything that you feel like you
learned from your your bold move that you would tell
somebody who's thinking of doing something similar.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Well, I learned this while I was in the military,
went to food camp and stuff like that. If you're comfortable,
you're probably doing it wrong. If you're uncomfortable, you're growing,
you're changing. You know, you're you're learning how to work
in a new environment. So my advice to anybody would
(29:46):
be to just stay open minded. Like if you're in
a new city, you know, you're somewhere that you're you're
doing something that you normally wouldn't be doing. Uh, just
stay open minded, you know, and keep your mind on
the goal. If the goal is just to get out
of your city and be somewhere else, fall into that. Uh,
(30:10):
don't don't be looking back in the past and say, oh,
I missed this about home, blah blah blah, because at
the end of the day you put yourself in this position,
you laugh, you wanted to do this. Now that you're here,
we live in it.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
The I heard something I know. You know, I feel
dumb because I heard this expression today and I didn't
realize and it's got to be a popular expression. But
the grass is greener where you water it. So if
that was the choice, you know, you either because you
go to Oregon and you're like, I should have stayed
(30:46):
back in ke because what's going on there? But if
you stay in Kansas City, go oh, what could have
been an Oregon? And it's like, you know whatever, exactly
as you said, It's like you chose to do the thing. So,
you know, just fucking leaning to what every shows. I suppose.
(31:09):
So how did you go? How'd you get this job
working at UH as a celebrity chef in UH Wyoming?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Well, dude, same thing. I told you. That website cool
works has done wonders for me.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Go ahead, what is it again?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Cool cool works cool works dot com a free, free
promotion for them, literally the best. It's the best website too.
If you want to leave your hometown and you are
you're scared to get a job and you work in hospitality,
or even if you don't work in hospitality. Uh, there's
(31:49):
a ton of jobs on there, from fishing guides to
being a ski uh what a what a those dudes
like a ski lift instructor or whatever. In Colorado, any
any resort in the United States, they have there. They
(32:10):
have an ad on there. And if you want to
go experience wise, even just for summer, excuse me, go
on cool works dot com. Especially if you're young then
you're in college, go on cool works. You'll get paid,
you'll be able to go somewhere else for the summer,
(32:31):
and it'll be a life change and experience. It literally
launched my entire like traveling career.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Fu y yeah. I was gonna say, like, let's say
somebody is like whatever, eighteen and maybe they don't want
to go to college, or they just graduated college, but
they graduated in something stupid like film and media arts,
you know, and they don't have any like like uh,
you know, hard skills or anything like that. Is this
is this something that you know people can can do
(33:01):
without a whole lot of experience.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yep, yep. They they will teach you everything. Like the
job that I worked at it was you know, We
brought in new people every year, and uh we train
them up the three weeks before the season starts. You know,
you're in the kitchen, you're learning them and us giving
(33:24):
you all the stuff. You don't have a knife, there's
knives there. Like there's programs where like if you don't
want to work in the kitchen, you could just watch kids.
Anybody can watch a baby.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Not anybody, but some people. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna
rebuff that statement. I'm gonna I'm gonna say, not everybody
can can watch a baby, but I get what you mean. Yeah,
I you know, that's okay. I'm gonna actually check this
out because I was I was sitting around today being
like I should go do some fucking shit, even though
(34:01):
I just did a bunch of fucking shit.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
But uh, all right, Yeah, even if you're in a
film major, you can go there and do the marketing
for them and do a photographers something like that. There's
a ton of different jobs that.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
You can do stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
And that's how you, uh became a chef at this
this crazy resort place.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah. Yeah, So I ended up going out there in
two thousand and eighteen or seventeen and it was free housing.
I did have to sleep in a room with three
other dudes on bump beds, so it's like summer camp,
but it was free. Uh, three meals a day free
(34:50):
and then every single week I completed, I got a
two hundred and thirty dollars bonus that was paid out
to the MPUM this season. So with that bonus, I
took that bonus and I went down and stayed in
Peru for two and a half months.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
What did you do in Peru?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I just hung out, man, I just hung out, sassa dance,
enjoyed the scene and re enjoyed the women in the museums.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
We're there by yourself.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, yeah, I spoke a little bit of Spanish. So
but after after I came back and smoke a bit
of Mount More Spanish.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Fuck. Yeah, so cool. Now, when you were in Peru,
did you like stay at a hostel or something or
you were.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Just like, first month, I had an Airbnb red day
of redemption to it just came out, so you know,
I just uh, and.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
You spent them. It's so funny. You know it's so
funny is that you just described like you were like, yeah,
I had a fucking awesome time in Peru. It was
rate the best two months of my life. All I
did was play red De Redemption two. And by the way,
by the way, I would believe you if that was
the case, because red De Redemption two is an awesome
(36:14):
is an amazing life experience. Yeah, the spent right. So
you're you're just in Peru. You bought a PlayStation four
in Peru and got red Diredemption two in Spanish.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Oh no, I brought my PlayStation four with me on
the plane. Already I was up to no good before
I even left.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
And then where'd you go from Peru?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
From Peru, I went back to Oregon, and then I
went back to Wyoming, and then I went down to
uh the Keys in Florida. So I ended up living
down in Florida for about six months, working at it
another luxury resort down there, for it was a private
(37:07):
billionaire's yacht club. Also another job I found off with
cool Works, and it was it was miserable.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Why was that miserable? Uh?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
It was just like it was. I'm not a fan
of seventy degrees every single day. Uh, it's the same weather.
I'm just gonna get with Florida it's like de japou.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
So what's I gotta I gotta ask you what is
the Because you're clearly a hard work and suffering builds
character kind of a guy. But what is the what?
How do you know if you're just fucking miserable and
you need to change something versus your going through a
(37:58):
hard time, that is molding your spirits.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
If you hate you, if you if the thought of
going into work gives you anxiety, and you know you
just hate this job and it doesn't bring you much
joy outside of getting paid, you need to move on.
(38:27):
That's uh, that's that's the best way I can describe it.
If it isn't bring you anything else besides monetary gainst,
and uh, you need to move on because if the
people suck at the environment sucks, you're just you're just
kind of uh killing yourself for a dollar and you
(38:47):
can go somewhere else and be in a much better
environment and enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Have you ever been in a job that you identified
that you just fuck hat and you quit?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, my most recent job.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
What was it that you hated about it?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Uh? Well, like so like I've never I've been lucky
enough to never been around like really abusive chefs, like
Turgole abusive chefs and stuff like that, and this guy
was just like the absolute worst. And I've worked for
better chefs who are who have their head on their
(39:32):
shoulders way more. So I just couldn't do it. It wasn't
it wasn't conducive to me learning and growing. M hm.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
And where'd you go right after you quit that?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Well, I'm going up to a kitchen up in Iron Bay.
So that started my new job. Yeah, I haven't started
my new job. I'm kind of on a break right now.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
What are you doing with your break?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
We are getting ready to celebrate Christmas is Christmas Eve today,
so we are finishing up all of our dishes for
tomorrow and getting ready to drive down to Canberra, the
capital of Australia.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
When you first came to Australia, I assume that was
a cool works thing.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Oh no, so actually I actually applied to come out
here on a work on holiday visa in twenty nineteen,
and then obviously the entire world shut down. So I
was out in Cali seeing a Kanye westconcert. I ended
(40:53):
up getting robbed that night. The next morning, when I
woke up, I had my visa for Australia approves. Just
kind of told my job out in Wyoming because I'm
back out in Wyoming at this point, Hey man, at
the beginning of twenty twenty two, I'm gonna be taking
(41:14):
a dive and moving to Australia.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
That's sick. Damn. Yeah, you live a cool life. I'm
very I'm very inspired talking to you. I've inspired that.
I'm inspired by a few things. Is that you just
really seem like a guy who won't settle for being
unhappy or being you know, comfortable in a bad way,
(41:44):
even even the fact that it took you one hundred
plus dates to find a woman you really wanted to
start a life with and fucking you know, going so
boldly to Oregon on a whim him and uh, sticking
it out through difficult jobs, but in finding joy within
(42:08):
the difficulty. It's it's really cool. I really appreciate the
way that you look at and live your life.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, I mean, that's all life really is. Like, I'm
not a persistent guy when it comes to dating. That's
why I've had so many dates. If you don't seem interested,
then I'm not interested. So I think a lot of
people they kind of they get too involved with one
person who doesn't seem interested with them when they could
just move on to the next person.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, that seems to be the better strategy instead of
trying to let you know, you know what, you know
what it is. I I it's so funny. I was
talking to my friend's girlfriend about this, Like anytime you're
like analyzing a text that someone sent you, or like
you're showing your friends like what does what does this
guy mean? Or what does this girl mean? What? Really?
(43:01):
I think what is really going on is like you
in your gut like know what they mean, and you're
like begging your friends and begging your ego for any
interpretation that is not what your gut knows they mean.
Because you're what your gut knows they mean. You don't
(43:22):
like you know, but it's it's way easier to just
you know, charge it to the game and keep going.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah, that's what I did for a while. I was
like an old Inns game One Life and you're out,
Sorry to work for me. Maybe that that I passed
up a lot of good people, But at the end
of the day, I'm happy with the person that I'm with.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
That's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Man.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
It just takes a lot of trial there. And honestly,
I didn't I didn't want to date in my twenties.
I put that on the back end and just really
went and traveled and saw the world and new experiences
and met people and oh that good stuff. I think
that's what you really should be doing. I'm actually envious
(44:12):
of you with your whole podcast and stuff like that.
The fact that you are able to just do something
you really love and make money from it.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Fuck. Man, Yeah, you're inspiring me because I I, well,
it's uh here, I mean, here's where I'm at when
my life is. Like I just I've went on like
three tours and it was like so cool to get
to see I really do I fucking really in my core.
(44:46):
In my core is a guy who like fucking loves
life and loves traveling and loves talking to people. And
I get very disconnected from that core because of like
depression and fall and uh just problems and things and
this long periods of time. I feel very disconnected with
(45:09):
that guy in my core that like loves life and people.
And then uh, and then something just comes where like
I awake and I'm like, well, wait a minute, I
wanna I actually I like things. I want to go out,
I want to see the world. I'm gonna die all
this stuff. But then I don't know. I get there's
a lot to enjoy about domestic life, like having clean
(45:33):
laundry and uh yeah, going to the gym regularly and
eating salmon and all that stuff, and I'm like, I
wanna ultimately live a life where I can eat salmon
and go to Australia randomly. But I don't know. It's
(45:55):
it's used to be a very like adventure has always
been a very core tenant of my life. But it's hard,
especially when you do it alone. It's really hard because
sometimes when you go somewhere alone and you stay at
a on some random guy this couch that you met
on the internet, you get into these situations where you're like, uh, well, one,
(46:21):
when you go alone, you experience like really deep fucking
melancholy and sadness. Oh my god, I'm lone's fun yeah,
just loneliness, and you're like, I like, I was in
Thailand and I was at a McDonald's by myself, crying
at night, and I was like, I'm gonna cry, like
(46:41):
I'm twenty six crying alone in a McDonald's in Thailand,
which in the moment is it feels really pathetic, but
then looking back on it, I'm like, like, when i'm
you know, forty, and I have kids or whatever, I'm
gonna be like, oh that was there was something poetic
about crying alone in that McDonald's. I'm like, I'm glad
(47:05):
that sucked in the moment, but I'm glad I did that.
Like there's so you get to kind of be in
this poetic melancholy sadness. But then also there's really high
highs where you meet some person at a thing and
then you're at this thing and you're whatever, and you're like, oh,
how the fuck did this even happen? This is crazy,
this is amazing, Like oh my god, I'm like living
(47:26):
like Walter Midty, like life is a movie kind of shit.
But you got to go through the the melancholyly to
get there. I'm really with you, I really think, especially
if you've if you're someone who's never left the country before,
never done anything like that, you know you really got to.
But right now I'm like, I gotta I gotta lose
(47:47):
fifty pounds and eat salmon and stuff. What were you
gonna say?
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Wow, go ahead. When I was in Peru, I actually
experienced a lot of this you're talking about, like been
somewhere and just crying stuff in my face, like just
being a streaming lonely. But while I was in Peru,
I just took the time to really work out every
single day outside stuff like that. Calisthetics is amazing. You
(48:17):
don't have to go to the gym. You can buy
stuff at home where you're just doing push ups, doing
squats and all this stuff like that to where you
you know, I used to do one hundred push ups
every single day.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Of course you do.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
And that just kind of helped me stay focused and
stay on the grind. I know weight loss. I struggle
with weight gain. I'm extremely skinny and that really bothers me.
I wish I could gain weight easy. So I definitely
recognize you having a problem with your weight and wanting
(48:58):
to do something about it. You just have to kind
of stay on the path.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Yeah, I thought I could do it while I was
on tour, and it's like, I really just can't. But
then I think get bored. I don't know, it's it's
it's it's good. It's good problems to have, you know, Well,
tell me this. Yeah, so you just found out your
girlfriend is pregnant or how did you How did that
make you feel? Are you excited about the future. We
(49:22):
talked about the past, we talked about the present, the present.
We shall end this with the future of Ron's life.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Uh I am. I am extremely nervous, obviously, like every
parent would be. Uh. I think it'll be good. I'm
moving away from a job that was making me unhappy
and moving somewhere else. It's kind of like lit a
fire in the treat get out of the kitchen and
do something that's a little bit more family friendly. So
(49:55):
that's what I'm trying to do, honest, to maybe move
into something different that I could spend time with my
girlfriend and my future child.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
What's what's on your mind? What are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Well, I was thinking of electricians, but I might just
do something on the computer, like cyberce security or something
like that, something technical that I could do from home
or not be at work all hours or didn't night.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
So are you worried that you'll after so much time
in this like fast paced environment that you really loved,
are you? Are you worried about a career change.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
No, I've been longing for a career change for about
two years now. But unfortunately in Australia, I'm a sponsored
I'm on a sponsorship visa, so I couldn't leave the
job that I'm at. I'm at, but I'm I'm on
my way to obtaining my p are, so they're not
keen basically be an Australian citizen, get the medicare, get
(51:07):
the cheaper school, all that stuff like that. So it's
just all it's all.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
Is it hard to becoming a can you? Well, are
you not married to this lady? Are you?
Speaker 2 (51:20):
No? No yet?
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Oh so if you if you if you get if
you get married, are you gonna do you just become
a citizen or how does that work?
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (51:28):
No, you actually have to pay ten thousand Australian to
apply for a partnership.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
Us get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah, but not only do you have to pay for
the wedding and stuff like that, you have to convince
the government that uh you are a legitimate couple and
that you want to be together. So that typically means
you can't leave the country for two to three years
while they thereify all of that stuff. So, uh, I'm
(51:59):
going the other route with my job, so that I
basically have a job. Say yeah, we need this guy,
we'd like to keep him around. We will sponsor.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
And after living a nomadic life for so long, how
are you feeling about settling down with a kid?
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Uh? Like I said, it was, it was kind of
that same thing, like I've done the chef thing. Got
done everything that I feel like I wanted to do
in the culinary world because I have no want on
a restaurant. After that, I just kind of wanted to
start reading a regular life. I wanted to experience what
(52:44):
other people experience, have been off of work at five
o'clock and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
I'm gonna if you're down. I know, I know I've
kept you on the phone for a long time here,
but if you're down, I want to see if the
chat perhaps has any questions for Ron. I'm gonna I'm
gonna see if the chat I can read them out
to you. Let me see here, let's see here. Uh,
(53:15):
someone just said are you a fancy chef? That I
only I swear to God, if there was enough that
was the only question so far. If I saw a
better question.
Speaker 6 (53:24):
I would have asked, I've done high end work.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
I've done I've worked so alt In Wyoming, I was
in a French kitchen making the consummes and nokis and
agnalodi pasta from scratch and stuff like that. I used
to eat Wago beef every single day. Uh yeah, I
guess you could say.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Has working in a kitchen caused you to trust less
in the food that you're getting when you like order it? Like,
are like, do you have you seen anything gross where
you're like, oh god.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Uh no, it's I actually try not like it's actually
like other people when they go into a restaurant, No,
this isn't the best. And I just go into a restaurant.
I prefer that, like it's it's just good. When somebody
else is cooking for me, did you try?
Speaker 3 (54:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Sorry, what's what's your girlfriend cooking?
Speaker 2 (54:30):
She can cook? She's no, you'll find it.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
Oh she is?
Speaker 2 (54:35):
She is?
Speaker 1 (54:36):
She is that who's in the background.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Yeah, yeah, tell her.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
I said, thank you for letting me steal you away
for a fucking hour.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
No, you're fine.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Someone said you have you tried ayahuasca in Peru?
Speaker 2 (54:57):
No? But I've done a fair amount of ass. I
never made it out to the jungle. While I was
in Peru after ben out in Wyoming for six and
a half seven months, I just wanted to be in
a city, dance, eat good food, meet people. Actually ended
(55:18):
up going on a tender date while I was there
and met two of my really good friends.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Someone wants to know what town in Alaska did you
go to?
Speaker 2 (55:33):
I went to Craig, Alaska. I was on the Prince
of Wales Island, so it was about an hour and
a half away from Catchkan, which is like a big
port area of cruise lines and stuff there.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Someone said, Oh, this is interesting. So how would not
having to make money change your relationship to cooking? Like,
would you cook even if you didn't have to?
Speaker 3 (56:03):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (56:04):
Probably not. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm
a picky eater, so like me being a chef doesn't
make sense because I am a strict, extremely picky eater. Uh.
So I enjoy I enjoy the the joy that people
get on their faces when they have good food. So
(56:27):
I guess my love language is just doing for people
and stuff like that. It doesn't have to necessarily be cooking.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
So wants to know, Uh, well, a couple people will
asked what your favorite dish is to cook, and then
someone said, what is the weirdest thing you have ever cooked?
Speaker 2 (56:45):
My favorite dish is chicken marsala, the Italian version, not
the Indian version, and the weirdest thing God ever cooked.
M Well, I don't know. I saw these this thing
(57:07):
this lady made on Instagram. It was shrimp shrimp albundius,
which is basically like shrimp meatballs, and I did them
as an amuse for the restaurant that I was working at,
and they actually turned out really freaking good.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
Uh, this one. Uh, this is totally totally up to you.
But somebody asked if you have a social media presence
because they're very inspired by your lifestyle. Uh, if you
want to be flooded with with gecko people, you're you're
You're welcome to.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
Uh yeah sure. My Instagram handle was Met on the
Moon eight one six. My profile is public, so I
just post a lot of memes and stuff like that.
But it does have a fair amount of stuff that
I've done.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
I get Matt Man on the Moon, Man on the
Moon eight one six, is that kid cutting reference?
Speaker 2 (58:08):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, My guy live front.
Speaker 1 (58:12):
Row, Like, all right, we gotta get him on the podcast.
We got to get him in a get Go suit
maybe one.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
Day, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
Well Ron, Ron, it was fucking seriously, it's awesome talking
to you. Thanks for telling us the journey of your life.
I really do like it would be so cool to
me if like I get a DM like six months
after this podcast airs of someone being like yo, I
went on that website that Ron was talking about and uh,
(58:44):
now I live in uh fucking Costa Rica or whatever,
and I'm married and you know whatever, that'd be cool
if someone like actually does some shit off of.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
This, maybe I'll directtion it. Yeah, anybody, if you want
to go travel, get on cool works dot com. Uh.
There's all kinds of different states, Rhode Island, uh, freaking
anywhere you want to go in the US. There's more
than likely a job there that you can do. Uh.
(59:16):
There's places that you can live and eat for free
and just make money.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
Ron, my friend, is there anything else you want to
say to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
I'm always just stay persistent in your and your goals
and your dreams. You guys, if you got something that
you want to through, see it through. You may be
uncomfortable at the time game, but at the end of
the day, it'll be worth it.
Speaker 1 (59:42):
Ron You're hero, your legend. Thanks for thanks for your
time and uh mozeltov On on the Beautiful life and
the Beautiful family.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
Thank you well, it was an honor talking to you.
I've been trying for a long time, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
They have a good night. Oh what a call. What
a guy. That was one of my favorite calls we've
we've had in a while. That's really my favorite thing
about doing this podcast is like, uh, I know that
though the way this podcast is framed can sometimes be
(01:00:18):
like that it's like an advice podcast, and it definitely
uh exkews that way a lot of the time. But
I've said this before. My favorite thing about doing what
I do is that I get to, you know, not
only interact with people in a way where I'm like
getting to soak up the lived experience of other people
(01:00:44):
you know, all around the world, but also that you know,
part of that conversation is broadcasted to a bunch of people, uh,
such as you listening to this, who are also getting
to learn from other people's learned experience, lived experience. It's
really cool. It's really cool. So thank you very much
(01:01:07):
Ron for sharing your story. I'm gonna check out this
coolworks dot com thing because really, like if I wasn't
doing what I do now, that like serious, like if
tomorrow it was just like my podcast was scrubbed from
the Internet or whatever, like and I couldn't do this anymore,
that probably is what I would do. It's like just
(01:01:31):
be like, well fuck it, let's go to uh Alaska
and see what the hell's going on over there. So
I don't know, maybe I'll check it out. Very nice.
Do I have anything else to say?
Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
I could say that was cool again, that was cool.
I did enjoy that, and thank you for listening. Hello.
Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
How's it going?
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Hey there? What's your name?
Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
My name is Zach, Zach.
Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
What's up, Zach? How you doing?
Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Not much? I just graduated at MTSU. He actually came
and visited.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Us Falk dude. Ah man, you know, sometimes I feel
like a piece of shit and then I'm like, oh wait,
actually I've done a lot of cool things like that.
That happened to me recently. I was like, I like
I was talking to somebody about Middle Tennessee State University,
(01:02:39):
and I was like, oh yeah, that was only like
a couple months ago, and that was awesome. That was
a great time. Had a great time at that show.
Were you there?
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I was.
Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
I was in like the back. I showed up late
with like one of my friends and it was it
was It was a good show. I mean, your National
show was way better.
Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
I was also there really which Nashville, Yeah, the one
where Insane Posse showed up? Oh yeah, the one the
one was checking. Yeah, I love that one.
Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
I had a good fun.
Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
How did you hook that up?
Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
How did you get Like?
Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Well, he and I had been talking about because they're
in Detroit, and he and I had been talking about
me doing something with them like on the podcast, but
then it just both happened to be in Nashville at
the same time, and so he came on. Oh my god,
that was so cool. That was one of the sickest.
I had a great time at that show. That was
(01:03:35):
so cool. I think that was the only time we've
ever had like a like celebrity guest on a live
show before.
Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Well, that was like so impressive. I mean, and then
we had like two marriage proposals, like right after.
Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Yeah, that one was like nuts, that was fun. That
was fun. Yeah, I had a great time at that
uh at that college show. Those are good. That was
that was good. Well, okay, so you just graduated and yeah,
how are you doing? Are you depressed?
Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
No, no, no, don't worry. I'm on I'm on the
good side of like calls today.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
I mean like looking for like a job and stuff,
but I kind of just want to do uh a
thing called like jet program. We're just like teaching English
and like Japan.
Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Well, the guy we just talked to was uh like
I feel like kind of talking about those kinds of things.
Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Yeah, I I applied in like November, and now I'm
just like sitting around waiting until they get back to me,
which is like they do uh they do it in waves,
so like in like country by country, like South Africa
like heard back first and then the UK people just
(01:04:55):
heard about it, and then I'm just sitting around waiting around.
But I want to do it with like my partner
because we're both like just interested in living in Japan,
like traveling around and stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Really cool, really cool way Japan.
Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Uh, mostly just because of the culture and stuff. I mean,
like I like the United States, but I want to dip,
Like it's just kind of uncomfortable here in Tennessee. I
guess I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Japan kicks ass. Japan's a great place to hang out in.
I don't know a whole lot about Like I only
learned like a few Japanese phrases. But I feel like
with languages, it's like if you really kind of go
at it for a year, you can you can do
(01:05:57):
pretty good. Are you well, you're not trying to learn
in Japanese? You want to teach English in Japanese in Japan?
Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Yeah, So they don't have like many requirements like if
you want to like go to like South Korea or
anything like that, they require you to like do like
a TfL like course which is like one hundred and
twenty hours, but like you can do in like six months.
(01:06:23):
But we're also looking at those opportunities. But like all
those conversations started from like oh maybe maybe like Peace
Corps or something like that. I don't know. And we've
been applying around just saying what we want to put
ourselves forward towards.
Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
I think I think, yeah, with a lot of those
like ESL programs, it's interesting because I am. I do
know that a lot of them don't require you to
speak the language that you're teaching the people to, which
is crazy because when I was in eighth grade, I
(01:07:02):
took a Spanish class and that lady spoke English. Well, well, no,
you like you know, like like with like in America,
like all the like, like when you were in middle school,
you have to take like Spanish or French or some shit.
Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
I took German at high school.
Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Okay, you're German high school teacher. She spoke English, right.
Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Uh yeah, she like grew up here in America then
like went over to like Germany, and then I got
like a second teacher that had like committed his whole
life to like living in Germany and then coming back here.
Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
But like that would be crazy. If they just had
a just fully one hundred percent German lady come in
and just speak German to the whole time, you wouldn't
learn anything.
Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
My girlfriend, when she took like French at the high school,
they originally had like this like very country person teaching
like French, and apparently like after she got replaced by
a real French person, it was very very hard to
like transition to students because they had like created like
(01:08:14):
bad habits and stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Yeah. I mean, here's the thing with like learning the languages.
I feel like it's not that bad to like learn
it badly, Like like the the grammar doesn't really matter.
If you speak a broken second language, as as an American,
then you're doing pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
I had to learn a little bit of Spanish for
working at like a paint.
Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Store that I worked at.
Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
But like I'm like kind of adjusted towards like picking
up like phrases and like, yeah, just like the culture
surrounding it.
Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
I guess when I feel like when you try to
learn another language and then like you're talking to like
foreign people who are speaking English to you, you're like, oh,
this person's actually pretty fucking good at English.
Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
They're all shy about it too, Right.
Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Well, that's cool, man. I'm glad to hear that your
life is glad to hear that you're not depressed and
you're about to do a cool thing.
Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
But it's hard.
Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
I mean, like giving up like opportunities to like hang
out with my dogs and stuff or like my family
just to like jump ship.
Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Yeah, but you're right, you're twenty two, twenty four, twenty four. Yeah,
but if yeah, I mean, but you know, life's for living.
Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Yeah, no, that last call was great for that.
Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Well, brother, my friend, is there anything else you want
to say to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Get out there? And uh, actually we'll throw this out
uh google the High Face. I grew up in that religion,
the High One out there. Yeah, so it's a it's
a religion that's like uh uh they believe in like
the nine major religions, and I just want to put
that word out there. Oh happy hankut to you.
Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Oh thanks man. Wait, they just rolled all their religions
up into one fucking ball and it's just the High Face.
Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
They were like uh talking about like how uh uh
the Word of God goes through many different prophets, and
like how every like country or like culture has like
had a prophet, whether it's passed down orally or like
traditionally through like writing and stuff. And it was a
really really cool religion to grow up in.
Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
M hm, the hind Do you still believe? Do you
still believe in? Do you still believe in the High Faith?
Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
I would say yes, I'm definitely surrounded by like a
lot of people that aren't like, uh, you know, super religious,
but I generally believe that, like it's important to like
share your voice and like all the values that they
like taught early on. I guess, so I don't know,
(01:11:21):
Uh I, I don't know. We live in like a
perfect world with like perfect conditions for everything.
Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
I don't know, do you really believe that.
Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Kind of I mean, uh, if I kind of that,
that's a bad answer. I should say yes or no,
but yes, I don't know. Maybe I'm watching too many
YouTube shorts with like those science guys saying, uh uh,
can you believe the the I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Well I will well hold on. I not to you
lose faith in literally what you're just saying right now.
But it's cool that your YouTube shorts algorithm is sending
you videos about how the world is awesome and perfect
because most I don't know if I'm probably not alone
in this, but most of the internet content I get
(01:12:19):
fed is about how the world is horrible and we're
all going to die.
Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Man, I do watch a lot of car crash compilations.
Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Okay, yeah, you gotta balance it out, Yeah, Okay, I
have one final question, why do you believe the world
is perfect as it is?
Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
I guess I've been just living life on like easy
mode and I haven't really been like traumatized or really.
I mean, I've talked to other people about like trauma
and stuff, but it's ever been at like, I don't know,
my own personal experiences have been amazing, and I always
(01:13:11):
try to look at like saying yes to like opportunities
and those of like always because originally I didn't. I
didn't say yes to like all the opportunities that were
like presented to me, And I think, I don't know,
(01:13:33):
I just I'm surrounded by amazing people and an amazing partner,
good family that support me. I mean, I'm graduating debt
free and I know a lot of people don't have
that opportunity. But uh, I don't know, I just kind
of live in like a pretty perfect world.
Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
I'm happy for you, man. Maybe it's the maybe the
High Faith is Maybe the High Faith is what led
you to this. Maybe. Yeah, this episode, everyone's gonna check
out the High Faith, and they're going to check out
that other website cool works, Yeah, cool works, cool Works,
and the High Faith.
Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Hey, you're gonna check it out too.
Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Yeah, I'm gonna check outn check out both of those websites.
I don't want to do. I don't want to do
while I'm on the phone with you, because I think
that would be rude. But that sounds like a good
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do both of those things
as soon as I get off of recording this. What's
your name again, it's Zach, Zach. Zach. Thanks for sharing
(01:14:37):
your life with us on this podcast today.
Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Well, thank you, Le.
Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Is there anything else you want to say to the
people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
I've said my words.
Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
I like that it's confident, UH make may all of
the gods of the nine major religions bless you, and
UH have a good rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Here you kill me?
Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Bye?
Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
That was nice. That was really nice. Yeah. I also
I thought about doing like English as a second language
teaching shit too, But I always thought it was crazy
that you don't have to, like, like, if you want
to teach English to people who only speak Spanish, you
don't even have to know Spanish. But like, if I
(01:15:28):
was in high school and I had a Spanish teacher,
I didn't speak English, I'd be like, what is this
lady talk about, never goes on the line, taking your
phone calls every night, Everything goes to and and I
I was
Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Teaching your cloud in the mean of your life that
he's not really an expert.
What's up man? How you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm pretty good yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
You know, I am trying my best. I am having
new epiphanies about life every single day, some of them
contradicting each other. Sometimes it feels like, you know, sometimes
I feel like I have like a life epiphany, and
(00:26):
then tomorrow I have the opposite one. In the day
after that, I have the original one. And it's like
I'm going in complete circles. But maybe maybe I'm like
going in circles. I'm trying to, like with words describe
how I see this visually, Like you know, I'm like
going in circles, but the circles are moving a little
(00:47):
bit to the right every time, So it's like a
loop that event Yeah, it's like a loop that just
event that goes eventually moves forward in that way. You know,
you kind of visualize what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, I have different epiphanies every single day, so the
light is always seeming to throw a little bit of
a loop at you.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I see that you are not a plus one area code.
Where are you calling from?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I'm calling from Australia. I moved to Australia about three
years ago.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Okay, are you American.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, yeah, I'm from Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Cool. Where and where in Australia did you move?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I moved to Sydney, so one of the most expensive cities.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
In the world.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And why did you move from Why did you move
from Kansas City, which is not one of the most
expensive cities in the world to sid.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
So I'm actually like one of your other callers that
called it like a like probably like ten podcasts ago
get the whole cool work steme and I ended up
in Alaster and then I just started traveling around the
you asked working at different places, different resorts, and that
(02:04):
led me to eventually you know then like a few
other people on here and been like, oh, I want
to go to Australia. So I ended up in Australia.
I'm a chef, so I've been cooking for about three
years out here.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Cool. Very cool. You said you were like one of
the other callers that did the what thing.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So you know the caller who went up to what
is that Yellowstone and he was just working out there
and yeah, so that same website. I went and got
a job off when I was twenty one, so I'm
well twenty seven, so I'm thirty four and now and
(02:49):
I've been doing the whole traveling thinking about eight years.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Now, how's that going for you? Because I think a
lot about what a fully nomadic life would be like,
and I've been in periods of time in my life
in which I felt very nomadic, and I'm curious, eight years,
how does that work out for you? How are you
(03:12):
feeling about it?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh? Man, you kind of uh, you really get used
to traveling and just keeping the minimum amount of stuff.
Like my whole life up until these last three years
could fit in three or four suitcases and I would
just get up and go. I'm driven across the US,
like four times I used to live in Oregon, drove
(03:35):
down to Florida, like the very tip of Florida, that
work down there. You really, uh, you really get to
know outside of yourself that a lot of people won't
know because they're never alone so much and celebrating holidays
and all that stuff. You really got to grow a
family outside of your family.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Do you have a family.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I actually just found out my girlfriend and here in Australia,
is pregnant.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
No way, yeah, so are you are you go? Are
you having the baby?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah? We are? Wait so I actually it was a
whole spill. I just quit my job last week and
I have another job lined up, and uh, pretty much
two days after I quit my job, she's like, yeah,
I'm pregnant and we're moving about eight hours away from
(04:36):
Sydney right now, So we got a whole.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Where are you going to move?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
We're headed up to Balina. I don't know if you
made it up to like the Byron Bay, Ballina area
while you were here.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
No, but I heard about Byron Bays. That's like where
all the no, I'm thinking of Bondi Beach, that's where
all the like tours go to die.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah. Yeah, Byron Bay is also another popular spot. It's
where Chris employd and Hugh Jackman, they all live out there.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And so this, uh, this lovely lady. Did you meet
her in Australia?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, yeah, so we actually met on the apps. I
know a lot of people have a lot of trouble
about meeting people on the apps, but it's it's more
of a persistence game and a numbers game than it
is you know, finding somebody right away. You know how
many the apps for a long time?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
How many appdates did you go on until you met
your girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Uh whoosh, Jesus, probably over one hundred easily over wow?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Really over one hundred?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah yeah yeah, But I'm I'm an old man, so
I've been using them. It's pretty much they came out
and I've been in different cities.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And what was it about this one that made it
different from the other one hundred?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
She was just pretty awesome. Like, honestly, all the girl
all the app dates that I've been on in Australia
have been pretty fruitful, like updated somebody that I've pretty
much met every single time. But she was she was
just different man, Like I didn't have to be stone
(06:35):
to be around her and like all that stuff. So
it just kind of really worked out when I first
met her. We met on Australia Day and we ended
up hanging out for like six and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Now, what is Australia Date? You guys don't just have
like Hinge and Tinder.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Australia Day. It's like, uh, it's a holiday. So Australia
Day is like Independence Day or like Columbus Day.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Oh oh oh oh oh wait you met up on
Australia Day. Yeah, okay, I thought you said you met
her on a website called Australia Date.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, we we actually met on Hinge.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Okay you understand, Okay, you understand. You understand where that
misunderstanding came from, right, Yeah, for sure, I was like, what,
I guess there's a website where you can just date Australian.
What was the other The other thing you said is
you said that you felt like you had to be
high to be around some of these people. Tell me
(07:46):
more about that.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, I used to actually this year stop smoking weed
as well. So, uh, I was just stoned all the time, man,
and like just being around people, and I felt like
that wasn't the only way I could communicate with people
because I was constantly stoned, and maybe nobody would like
me if I was constantly stoned. And yeah, the first
(08:11):
time I was ever around her, I just wasn't stoned,
and it was it was a real eye opener. It
was an epissan if you, like you said where I
was like, okay, I can do this, m m. Yeah.
Was as anxious?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Was it was it that you just kind of felt
a constant state of anxiety and weed was like the
only way to get past it.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, And actually, uh, once I stopped smoking and I
got away from the weed. Actually the anxiety actually went down.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, so the weave.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Was actually making me really paranoid, at which I didn't
notice because you know, I'm waking up smoking three or
four bulls, going to work on my breaks, smoke some more,
smoke some more before I go to sleep. So I
was just like in constant marijuana hayes.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Mm hmmmm hm. Yes, what what made you want to quit? Recently?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I ran a marathon. I ran a marathon, and uh,
in order to prepare for the marathon, I just cut back,
cut back to back, and I, uh, before I had
a kate, This is before I knew I was having
a kid. I just didn't want to like smoke around
my kid or you know, be a stoner. I don't
(09:41):
care about like smoking weed every so often or whatever
like that, but like I just didn't want to be
like a stone dad. M So it all worked out, Yeah,
it was. It was. It was more so that I
was smoking nicotine with the marijuana, and I wanted to
(10:05):
play it away from that. So yeah, yeah, exactly, I
wanted to get away from that. I always told myself
I wouldn't smoke nicotine. But you know, we do things
in life that we said we wouldn't do.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
How long was your weed career prior to.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Quit, probably like thirteen years?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, every day?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Initially, no, but once so I moved out to Oregon
when I was about twenty three, and the weed is
so cheap out there and it's so good that you know,
it just kind of let me down a rabbit hole
and smoking more and more blah blah blah. So it's
(10:53):
been it's been quite a journey.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
The part about anxietyety like you smoke weed to alleviate anxiety,
but then you find that this weird converse way. It's
like you get high and then you get more anxious
and more parentally exactly. But and I and I wonder,
and again this is not the Andrew Huberman podcast, but
(11:19):
I do wonder, is like, is weed making me is
like a self fulfilling prophecy, where like weed makes me
anxious on the days that I am not smoking as well.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, that's why I was fine in too. And it
is because they say, like marijuana is an addictive and
that was like in you know, the nineteen seventies where
the weed wasn't thirty six percent and thc and stuff
like that, and you know, it's just a lot more accessible,
a lot more open. It's not what it used to be.
(11:54):
So I think as it becomes stronger, it does become
more addictive, especially you're young and you're using. I definitely
think that your body can get like dependent on having that.
It may not be you know, uh, as physically of
a bad addiction as like heroin or other opie images
(12:16):
stuff like that, but like the mental addiction is what
I think gets a lot of people in strays, keeps
on from quitting and stuff like that, because it is.
It was very hard, and a large part of it,
like I told you, was the nicotine for me. And
then you're smoking blunts and stuff like that, then you're
(12:38):
definitely getting like that constant like nicotine high to where
you're not even noticing, and uh, it would be definitely
a lot harder for you to quit.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Mm hmmm hmm. Have you replaced it with anything else,
whether it's something negative or positive.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, honestly, I just been focusing on life, being able
to run longer, like I said, I've been during marathon.
So this year I'm training for an iron Man and
just stuff like that trying to keep my body busy,
trying to keep my mind busy. It's like you said,
(13:18):
with masturvation, as long as you're out of the house,
you're not thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I love the fuck it. I love the things. I
love the things that I just fucking say on this podcast,
not really really not registering that anyone actually hears them.
And then and then someone says, remember when you said
that you should just be out of the house as
much as you can so you don't masturbate as much,
And I'm like, oh, yeah, you really did say that
(13:44):
a lot. Yeah, and you know, and I fully stand
by it. I stand by it a lot because it's true.
Whenever I'm in the house, you know, it's uh, it's
a problem. But I don't do it outside because that's
a weak. Yeah. I think I would. I'd like to
think even if I'd like to think, even if it
(14:06):
wasn't illegal, I still wouldn't do it outside. But I
don't know. Who knows what life is like. It might
be kind. I mean, people do it, people definitely, even
though it's illegal, People definitely do it. People people do it.
I saw a guy jacking off on Venice Beach once,
and you know what the crazy thing is is nobody cared.
(14:27):
Nobody cared at all because it's what they expect. It's
like when you see it's like if when you're walking
through New York and you're on the subway, if you
just see guy masturbating, you're kind of like, at least
I'm kind of like, well that it's not It's like
seeing a palm tree in Florida. You know, it's like,
this is what it is?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
This is it?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Nobody people are just on their phones. No one really
they avoid them, but they just you know, everyone's just
trying to get to where they want to be. So, uh,
what do you what's your job now? You're still a chef, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I've been a chef for about, yeah, thirteen years. So
in the entire time i've been chefing, I've been smoking weed. Yeah.
I never went to culinary school or anything. If anybody
is listening, they want to become a chef, just get
a job in a kitchen. Deep, So to go to
culinary school.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
What's your name again, I'm not going to forget this time.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
My name is Ron.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Ron.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
That's my dad's name.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, Ron, give me a map, So you graduate high
school at eighteen, and then you're running around for a while.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Where all did you run around to?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So from eighteen twenty one, I stayed in Kansas City.
When I was twenty one, I actually smoked a shit
ton of weed one night and I ended up getting
on a grade Hound and moving to Order and.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You just I don't breeze past the story.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So you just.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Got really like what you're in your mom's house or
you're where are you like? And you just get really
hot outside that night to move.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah. So I'm I'm a hot box in the car
with my friend. We probably smoked like five or six months.
And I get home and it's like an Alexati experience
and I'm like, I don't know, I can't be here anymore.
I't my life is going to pass me by if
I don't leave right now. So I packed the backpack
(16:35):
full of clothes, drove down to the Greyhound station and
bought a ticket to Organ because I was supposed to
go with an ex girlfriend and we got broken up.
And I'm like, yeah, no, I don't want to stay
in Kansas City. I'm going anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
And I didn't know anybody. I didn't have a plan
or anything like that. I ended up surviving out there
for eight months before I had to go home. My
sister told me, like, you could say, at my house
for three months for free, or you can go back
out to Oregon. And yeah, I ended up taking that
(17:16):
three months learning to cook at waffle house, and then
I went back out to Oregon and I ended up
getting a job in six days working in the kitchen.
So it was off to the races after.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Then the first those first eight months that you were
surviving in Oregon, after just that night packing up and
you just what you showed up with a backpack and yep,
that's it.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, I had two hundred and eighty dollars in my pocket.
I actually I had like couldn't cocted a plan on
the bus where like after I woke up. Either it
was Stony Hays where I'm like, oh shit, I'm on
my way to Oregon. So I was like, Okay, let
me see if I can you know, play nice enough
(18:10):
or you know, show off my personality to eat to
where somebody will let me crash on their couch. And yeah,
that's exactly what happened. One of the chicks on the bus,
she's like, you look extremely young. I know you're coming
out here to survive and try to figure it out.
But if you ever need a place to stay, there's
(18:30):
my number and give me a call. I stayed one
night in the hotel, gave her a call, and then
she let me crash on her couch for about two
months until I got on my feet.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You met a woman on the Greyhound bus to Oregon
that you ended up staying with for two months?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, on her couch. Yeah it was. It was one
of the thirtiest places I've ever stayed. But you know,
at the end of the at the end of the night,
I was able to sleep somewhere with a roof over
my head, and I was happy. They were some of
the nicest people I've ever.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Met who was in this house.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
It was her and her girlfriend at the time.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's so wild. That's they just You've just got so
you got really lucky on that one.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, I did. And I Oregon gives out food stamps
like their water, so I was just paying for rent
those first two months and food stamps. I'm like, I
get two hundred and fifty dollars worth of food stamps.
This is all I can afford to give you. You
can have it all. Here's the cart.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
And then once I got a job, I got lucky
again because my boss at that job was like, hey,
I need a roommate. Cool, how much is rent? And
rent was about three hundred dollars. So I'm working at
seven eleven and working with my boss.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And what year is this?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
This is two thousand and twelve slash thirteen.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Wow? And so when you all right, so you got
on a Greyhound bus and go to Oregon. You meet
this lady? How soon after you arrived did you get
a job? And then how'd you get that?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Two months? And I was just walking around adding, as
you know, going out giving out my resumes and stuff
like that, because the internet isn't as crazy as it
is now even ten years ago. So I'm just walking
around giving out my resume. Hey, my name is Ron.
(20:54):
If you need anybody to work, I'm your guy. The
place was actually about two and a half miles from
my house, so I'm walking to Mount two and a
half miles to work two and a half miles back
every single day.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Really.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah. Eventually I got a skateboard to make it a
little bit easier, so that was my car. But yeah,
worked in eight ten hours every single day.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Damn dude. How long were you there for?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
All?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Eight months?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah? Yeah? And then I went back home to Kansas
City for a bit, and then I ended up going
back out to Oregon and beginning my journey as a chef.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
What did that look like? Beginning your journey as a chef?
By the way, just so you know, Ron, I don't
know what your plans are for tonight, but I'm fully
prepared for this entire podcast episode of your life because
I'm fascinated by you.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
So yeah, thank you loud, thank you. Aud So, after
I got back, like I told you, I had to
start cooking at the waffle house. I know you're from
like the Northeast area. I don't know if you've been
to a waffle house.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, yeah, I used to. They have in Georgia where
I was a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Okay, Yeah, So I was working there, working nights, and
I told my sister while I had been out in Oregon,
I had heard chefs that were, you know, making thirteen
fourteen dollars an hour at the time, I'm like, that's
good money. So I told my sister teach me how
to cook. And then when I got back to Oregon,
(22:45):
I was working at a barbecue joint. It wasn't really fulfilling,
so I started working at a restaurant called Goostops. It's
closed now. It was a German spot. I had no
knowledge of them and food anything of the sorts. But
my chef, she uh looked at me and she's like,
(23:08):
you know, normally only hired people with a culinary degree,
but you see, you got a little bit of cooking experience.
You seem like you got your head on your shoulders.
So I'm going to give you a trial. And I
went in there and I just you know, killed. It
followed everything and everybody was settling me. H went straight
(23:30):
to the line. I wasn't doing dishes, I wasn't doing prep.
I was right on the line with the rest of
the other chefs and just trial by fire and it
was u it was an experience. H first night, I
sliced my hand open, and uh, I still had to
finish another six hours of putting my hand underneath the
(23:53):
salamander and working and stuff like that. So like it
was it. It was a intense first day and just
that first day made me fall in love with working
in the kitchen. It was a bunch of pirates and
you know, people just yelling and just pure chaos, like
(24:14):
this is this is it? This is for me?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Fuck you, fuck you? And that was And you said
that was eight years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
That was two thousand and fourteen, So about ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Now, wow, And how long are you in Oregon after that?
After you start working there?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
So I lived in Oregon for another seven years. I
ended up I ended up cooking breakfast and stuff, had
a number of notable joints around there. And then me
and my brother we were being roommates. He has been
a piece of shit, so I ended up moving her out.
(25:01):
I ended up finding the website cool Works, and uh,
I didn't really like where my life was going at
the time. You know, I had got this travel bug.
It's where I'm like, Okay, I made it in Portland,
let's see if I can do it somewhere else. So uh,
(25:23):
down that website and I ended up applying to go
to Alaska and that was an amazing trip in itself.
Like I was out there for about six months, living, working,
and eating all for free. So yeah, did that. Then
(25:48):
I came back to Oregon just didn't feel right after
I had left.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So you said, I'm sorry. You said in in uh,
in Oregon it didn't feel right, or in Alaska didn't
feel right.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
In Oregon. After I came back from Alaska, I still
had this like deep burning passion to go out and
travel and you know, see more of the world. Uh
So I ended up taking a job in Wyoming, and
that was an experience in myself. I actually got to
(26:26):
work with a lot of celebrities and I cook that
one of the fanciest resorts in the world, and just
like really learning what it meant to be a chef,
not just cooking one cuisine and all that stuff. I
got to work in a French kitchen underneath a very
(26:50):
good chef and while being able to elevate all of
my skills and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
So you, uh, well, first of all, I just want
to say, it's the fact that you spent seven years
in Oregon is pretty crazy, because whatever was in that
weed that night just fucking changed the entire course of
your life. Like that's that's amazing. I really, I just
(27:20):
and you initially picked that place because you were gonna
go there with the next girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, yeah, And one night.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I love I love it. You're just one night. You're
just like, dude, fuck this, I'm not waiting anymore. I'm
fucking going tonight. So cool. Yeah, and then you just
fucking make it happen. Do you still keep in contact
at all with the lady who's couch just left on?
Or is she gone?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Uh Na? We haven't talked in years, but you know,
I still send her like the random happy days for
message and stuff like that, and her and her and
the chick that she was day and they actually ended
up breaking up and she just had her ex girlfriend
just had a baby, So I congratulated her on all
(28:07):
that stuff. So I made sure they knew that they
were appreciated. I ended up going back after I got
a job and moved out, and ended up giving them
like four or five hundred dollars just to say thank you. Cool. Yeah,
they they they they really saved me. I could have
(28:27):
been somewhere out on the street and really struggling, but
you know, they gave me a chance, and every opportunity
I've gotten while I've been on this journey, I've just
made the best of it and taking a chance. That's
really all it took.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I want to I want to get back to your
wyomic adventure. But first I have a I have a
question for you. If someone is listening to this right
now and they're inspired by your your bold your boldness, okay,
and they were to maybe do a bold move as
(29:09):
you did, is there anything that you feel like you
learned from your your bold move that you would tell
somebody who's thinking of doing something similar.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Well, I learned this while I was in the military,
went to food camp and stuff like that. If you're comfortable,
you're probably doing it wrong. If you're uncomfortable, you're growing,
you're changing. You know, you're you're learning how to work
in a new environment. So my advice to anybody would
(29:46):
be to just stay open minded. Like if you're in
a new city, you know, you're somewhere that you're you're
doing something that you normally wouldn't be doing. Uh, just
stay open minded, you know, and keep your mind on
the goal. If the goal is just to get out
of your city and be somewhere else, fall into that. Uh,
(30:10):
don't don't be looking back in the past and say, oh,
I missed this about home, blah blah blah, because at
the end of the day you put yourself in this position,
you laugh, you wanted to do this. Now that you're here,
we live in it.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
The I heard something I know. You know, I feel
dumb because I heard this expression today and I didn't
realize and it's got to be a popular expression. But
the grass is greener where you water it. So if
that was the choice, you know, you either because you
go to Oregon and you're like, I should have stayed
(30:46):
back in ke because what's going on there? But if
you stay in Kansas City, go oh, what could have
been an Oregon? And it's like, you know whatever, exactly
as you said, It's like you chose to do the thing. So,
you know, just fucking leaning to what every shows. I suppose.
(31:09):
So how did you go? How'd you get this job
working at UH as a celebrity chef in UH Wyoming?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Well, dude, same thing. I told you. That website cool
works has done wonders for me.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Go ahead, what is it again?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Cool cool works cool works dot com a free, free
promotion for them, literally the best. It's the best website too.
If you want to leave your hometown and you are
you're scared to get a job and you work in hospitality,
or even if you don't work in hospitality. Uh, there's
(31:49):
a ton of jobs on there, from fishing guides to
being a ski uh what a what a those dudes
like a ski lift instructor or whatever. In Colorado, any
any resort in the United States, they have there. They
(32:10):
have an ad on there. And if you want to
go experience wise, even just for summer, excuse me, go
on cool works dot com. Especially if you're young then
you're in college, go on cool works. You'll get paid,
you'll be able to go somewhere else for the summer,
(32:31):
and it'll be a life change and experience. It literally
launched my entire like traveling career.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Fu y yeah. I was gonna say, like, let's say
somebody is like whatever, eighteen and maybe they don't want
to go to college, or they just graduated college, but
they graduated in something stupid like film and media arts,
you know, and they don't have any like like uh,
you know, hard skills or anything like that. Is this
is this something that you know people can can do
(33:01):
without a whole lot of experience.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yep, yep. They they will teach you everything. Like the
job that I worked at it was you know, We
brought in new people every year, and uh we train
them up the three weeks before the season starts. You know,
you're in the kitchen, you're learning them and us giving
(33:24):
you all the stuff. You don't have a knife, there's
knives there. Like there's programs where like if you don't
want to work in the kitchen, you could just watch kids.
Anybody can watch a baby.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Not anybody, but some people. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna
rebuff that statement. I'm gonna I'm gonna say, not everybody
can can watch a baby, but I get what you mean. Yeah,
I you know, that's okay. I'm gonna actually check this
out because I was I was sitting around today being
like I should go do some fucking shit, even though
(34:01):
I just did a bunch of fucking shit.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
But uh, all right, Yeah, even if you're in a
film major, you can go there and do the marketing
for them and do a photographers something like that. There's
a ton of different jobs that.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
You can do stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
And that's how you, uh became a chef at this
this crazy resort place.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah. Yeah, So I ended up going out there in
two thousand and eighteen or seventeen and it was free housing.
I did have to sleep in a room with three
other dudes on bump beds, so it's like summer camp,
but it was free. Uh, three meals a day free
(34:50):
and then every single week I completed, I got a
two hundred and thirty dollars bonus that was paid out
to the MPUM this season. So with that bonus, I
took that bonus and I went down and stayed in
Peru for two and a half months.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
What did you do in Peru?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I just hung out, man, I just hung out, sassa dance,
enjoyed the scene and re enjoyed the women in the museums.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
We're there by yourself.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, yeah, I spoke a little bit of Spanish. So
but after after I came back and smoke a bit
of Mount More Spanish.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Fuck. Yeah, so cool. Now, when you were in Peru,
did you like stay at a hostel or something or
you were.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Just like, first month, I had an Airbnb red day
of redemption to it just came out, so you know,
I just uh, and.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
You spent them. It's so funny. You know it's so
funny is that you just described like you were like, yeah,
I had a fucking awesome time in Peru. It was
rate the best two months of my life. All I
did was play red De Redemption two. And by the way,
by the way, I would believe you if that was
the case, because red De Redemption two is an awesome
(36:14):
is an amazing life experience. Yeah, the spent right. So
you're you're just in Peru. You bought a PlayStation four
in Peru and got red Diredemption two in Spanish.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Oh no, I brought my PlayStation four with me on
the plane. Already I was up to no good before
I even left.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
And then where'd you go from Peru?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
From Peru, I went back to Oregon, and then I
went back to Wyoming, and then I went down to
uh the Keys in Florida. So I ended up living
down in Florida for about six months, working at it
another luxury resort down there, for it was a private
(37:07):
billionaire's yacht club. Also another job I found off with
cool Works, and it was it was miserable.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Why was that miserable? Uh?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
It was just like it was. I'm not a fan
of seventy degrees every single day. Uh, it's the same weather.
I'm just gonna get with Florida it's like de japou.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
So what's I gotta I gotta ask you what is
the Because you're clearly a hard work and suffering builds
character kind of a guy. But what is the what?
How do you know if you're just fucking miserable and
you need to change something versus your going through a
(37:58):
hard time, that is molding your spirits.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
If you hate you, if you if the thought of
going into work gives you anxiety, and you know you
just hate this job and it doesn't bring you much
joy outside of getting paid, you need to move on.
(38:27):
That's uh, that's that's the best way I can describe it.
If it isn't bring you anything else besides monetary gainst,
and uh, you need to move on because if the
people suck at the environment sucks, you're just you're just
kind of uh killing yourself for a dollar and you
(38:47):
can go somewhere else and be in a much better
environment and enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Have you ever been in a job that you identified
that you just fuck hat and you quit?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, my most recent job.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
What was it that you hated about it?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Uh? Well, like so like I've never I've been lucky
enough to never been around like really abusive chefs, like
Turgole abusive chefs and stuff like that, and this guy
was just like the absolute worst. And I've worked for
better chefs who are who have their head on their
(39:32):
shoulders way more. So I just couldn't do it. It wasn't
it wasn't conducive to me learning and growing. M hm.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
And where'd you go right after you quit that?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Well, I'm going up to a kitchen up in Iron Bay.
So that started my new job. Yeah, I haven't started
my new job. I'm kind of on a break right now.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
What are you doing with your break?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
We are getting ready to celebrate Christmas is Christmas Eve today,
so we are finishing up all of our dishes for
tomorrow and getting ready to drive down to Canberra, the
capital of Australia.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
When you first came to Australia, I assume that was
a cool works thing.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Oh no, so actually I actually applied to come out
here on a work on holiday visa in twenty nineteen,
and then obviously the entire world shut down. So I
was out in Cali seeing a Kanye westconcert. I ended
(40:53):
up getting robbed that night. The next morning, when I
woke up, I had my visa for Australia approves. Just
kind of told my job out in Wyoming because I'm
back out in Wyoming at this point, Hey man, at
the beginning of twenty twenty two, I'm gonna be taking
(41:14):
a dive and moving to Australia.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
That's sick. Damn. Yeah, you live a cool life. I'm
very I'm very inspired talking to you. I've inspired that.
I'm inspired by a few things. Is that you just
really seem like a guy who won't settle for being
unhappy or being you know, comfortable in a bad way,
(41:44):
even even the fact that it took you one hundred
plus dates to find a woman you really wanted to
start a life with and fucking you know, going so
boldly to Oregon on a whim him and uh, sticking
it out through difficult jobs, but in finding joy within
(42:08):
the difficulty. It's it's really cool. I really appreciate the
way that you look at and live your life.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, I mean, that's all life really is. Like, I'm
not a persistent guy when it comes to dating. That's
why I've had so many dates. If you don't seem interested,
then I'm not interested. So I think a lot of
people they kind of they get too involved with one
person who doesn't seem interested with them when they could
just move on to the next person.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, that seems to be the better strategy instead of
trying to let you know, you know what, you know
what it is. I I it's so funny. I was
talking to my friend's girlfriend about this, Like anytime you're
like analyzing a text that someone sent you, or like
you're showing your friends like what does what does this
guy mean? Or what does this girl mean? What? Really?
(43:01):
I think what is really going on is like you
in your gut like know what they mean, and you're
like begging your friends and begging your ego for any
interpretation that is not what your gut knows they mean.
Because you're what your gut knows they mean. You don't
(43:22):
like you know, but it's it's way easier to just
you know, charge it to the game and keep going.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah, that's what I did for a while. I was
like an old Inns game One Life and you're out,
Sorry to work for me. Maybe that that I passed
up a lot of good people, But at the end
of the day, I'm happy with the person that I'm with.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
That's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Man.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
It just takes a lot of trial there. And honestly,
I didn't I didn't want to date in my twenties.
I put that on the back end and just really
went and traveled and saw the world and new experiences
and met people and oh that good stuff. I think
that's what you really should be doing. I'm actually envious
(44:12):
of you with your whole podcast and stuff like that.
The fact that you are able to just do something
you really love and make money from it.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Fuck. Man, Yeah, you're inspiring me because I I, well,
it's uh here, I mean, here's where I'm at when
my life is. Like I just I've went on like
three tours and it was like so cool to get
to see I really do I fucking really in my core.
(44:46):
In my core is a guy who like fucking loves
life and loves traveling and loves talking to people. And
I get very disconnected from that core because of like
depression and fall and uh just problems and things and
this long periods of time. I feel very disconnected with
(45:09):
that guy in my core that like loves life and people.
And then uh, and then something just comes where like
I awake and I'm like, well, wait a minute, I
wanna I actually I like things. I want to go out,
I want to see the world. I'm gonna die all
this stuff. But then I don't know. I get there's
a lot to enjoy about domestic life, like having clean
(45:33):
laundry and uh yeah, going to the gym regularly and
eating salmon and all that stuff, and I'm like, I
wanna ultimately live a life where I can eat salmon
and go to Australia randomly. But I don't know. It's
(45:55):
it's used to be a very like adventure has always
been a very core tenant of my life. But it's hard,
especially when you do it alone. It's really hard because
sometimes when you go somewhere alone and you stay at
a on some random guy this couch that you met
on the internet, you get into these situations where you're like, uh, well, one,
(46:21):
when you go alone, you experience like really deep fucking
melancholy and sadness. Oh my god, I'm lone's fun yeah,
just loneliness, and you're like, I like, I was in
Thailand and I was at a McDonald's by myself, crying
at night, and I was like, I'm gonna cry, like
(46:41):
I'm twenty six crying alone in a McDonald's in Thailand,
which in the moment is it feels really pathetic, but
then looking back on it, I'm like, like, when i'm
you know, forty, and I have kids or whatever, I'm
gonna be like, oh that was there was something poetic
about crying alone in that McDonald's. I'm like, I'm glad
(47:05):
that sucked in the moment, but I'm glad I did that.
Like there's so you get to kind of be in
this poetic melancholy sadness. But then also there's really high
highs where you meet some person at a thing and
then you're at this thing and you're whatever, and you're like, oh,
how the fuck did this even happen? This is crazy,
this is amazing, Like oh my god, I'm like living
(47:26):
like Walter Midty, like life is a movie kind of shit.
But you got to go through the the melancholyly to
get there. I'm really with you, I really think, especially
if you've if you're someone who's never left the country before,
never done anything like that, you know you really got to.
But right now I'm like, I gotta I gotta lose
(47:47):
fifty pounds and eat salmon and stuff. What were you
gonna say?
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Wow, go ahead. When I was in Peru, I actually
experienced a lot of this you're talking about, like been
somewhere and just crying stuff in my face, like just
being a streaming lonely. But while I was in Peru,
I just took the time to really work out every
single day outside stuff like that. Calisthetics is amazing. You
(48:17):
don't have to go to the gym. You can buy
stuff at home where you're just doing push ups, doing
squats and all this stuff like that to where you
you know, I used to do one hundred push ups
every single day.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Of course you do.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
And that just kind of helped me stay focused and
stay on the grind. I know weight loss. I struggle
with weight gain. I'm extremely skinny and that really bothers me.
I wish I could gain weight easy. So I definitely
recognize you having a problem with your weight and wanting
(48:58):
to do something about it. You just have to kind
of stay on the path.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Yeah, I thought I could do it while I was
on tour, and it's like, I really just can't. But
then I think get bored. I don't know, it's it's
it's it's good. It's good problems to have, you know, Well,
tell me this. Yeah, so you just found out your
girlfriend is pregnant or how did you How did that
make you feel? Are you excited about the future. We
(49:22):
talked about the past, we talked about the present, the present.
We shall end this with the future of Ron's life.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Uh I am. I am extremely nervous, obviously, like every
parent would be. Uh. I think it'll be good. I'm
moving away from a job that was making me unhappy
and moving somewhere else. It's kind of like lit a
fire in the treat get out of the kitchen and
do something that's a little bit more family friendly. So
(49:55):
that's what I'm trying to do, honest, to maybe move
into something different that I could spend time with my
girlfriend and my future child.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
What's what's on your mind? What are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Well, I was thinking of electricians, but I might just
do something on the computer, like cyberce security or something
like that, something technical that I could do from home
or not be at work all hours or didn't night.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
So are you worried that you'll after so much time
in this like fast paced environment that you really loved,
are you? Are you worried about a career change.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
No, I've been longing for a career change for about
two years now. But unfortunately in Australia, I'm a sponsored
I'm on a sponsorship visa, so I couldn't leave the
job that I'm at. I'm at, but I'm I'm on
my way to obtaining my p are, so they're not
keen basically be an Australian citizen, get the medicare, get
(51:07):
the cheaper school, all that stuff like that. So it's
just all it's all.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
Is it hard to becoming a can you? Well, are
you not married to this lady? Are you?
Speaker 2 (51:20):
No? No yet?
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Oh so if you if you if you get if
you get married, are you gonna do you just become
a citizen or how does that work?
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (51:28):
No, you actually have to pay ten thousand Australian to
apply for a partnership.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
Us get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah, but not only do you have to pay for
the wedding and stuff like that, you have to convince
the government that uh you are a legitimate couple and
that you want to be together. So that typically means
you can't leave the country for two to three years
while they thereify all of that stuff. So, uh, I'm
(51:59):
going the other route with my job, so that I
basically have a job. Say yeah, we need this guy,
we'd like to keep him around. We will sponsor.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
And after living a nomadic life for so long, how
are you feeling about settling down with a kid?
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Uh? Like I said, it was, it was kind of
that same thing, like I've done the chef thing. Got
done everything that I feel like I wanted to do
in the culinary world because I have no want on
a restaurant. After that, I just kind of wanted to
start reading a regular life. I wanted to experience what
(52:44):
other people experience, have been off of work at five
o'clock and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
I'm gonna if you're down. I know, I know I've
kept you on the phone for a long time here,
but if you're down, I want to see if the
chat perhaps has any questions for Ron. I'm gonna I'm
gonna see if the chat I can read them out
to you. Let me see here, let's see here. Uh,
(53:15):
someone just said are you a fancy chef? That I
only I swear to God, if there was enough that
was the only question so far. If I saw a
better question.
Speaker 6 (53:24):
I would have asked, I've done high end work.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
I've done I've worked so alt In Wyoming, I was
in a French kitchen making the consummes and nokis and
agnalodi pasta from scratch and stuff like that. I used
to eat Wago beef every single day. Uh yeah, I
guess you could say.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Has working in a kitchen caused you to trust less
in the food that you're getting when you like order it? Like,
are like, do you have you seen anything gross where
you're like, oh god.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Uh no, it's I actually try not like it's actually
like other people when they go into a restaurant, No,
this isn't the best. And I just go into a restaurant.
I prefer that, like it's it's just good. When somebody
else is cooking for me, did you try?
Speaker 3 (54:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Sorry, what's what's your girlfriend cooking?
Speaker 2 (54:30):
She can cook? She's no, you'll find it.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
Oh she is?
Speaker 2 (54:35):
She is?
Speaker 1 (54:36):
She is that who's in the background.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Yeah, yeah, tell her.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
I said, thank you for letting me steal you away
for a fucking hour.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
No, you're fine.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Someone said you have you tried ayahuasca in Peru?
Speaker 2 (54:57):
No? But I've done a fair amount of ass. I
never made it out to the jungle. While I was
in Peru after ben out in Wyoming for six and
a half seven months, I just wanted to be in
a city, dance, eat good food, meet people. Actually ended
(55:18):
up going on a tender date while I was there
and met two of my really good friends.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Someone wants to know what town in Alaska did you
go to?
Speaker 2 (55:33):
I went to Craig, Alaska. I was on the Prince
of Wales Island, so it was about an hour and
a half away from Catchkan, which is like a big
port area of cruise lines and stuff there.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Someone said, Oh, this is interesting. So how would not
having to make money change your relationship to cooking? Like,
would you cook even if you didn't have to?
Speaker 3 (56:03):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (56:04):
Probably not. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm
a picky eater, so like me being a chef doesn't
make sense because I am a strict, extremely picky eater. Uh.
So I enjoy I enjoy the the joy that people
get on their faces when they have good food. So
(56:27):
I guess my love language is just doing for people
and stuff like that. It doesn't have to necessarily be cooking.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
So wants to know, Uh, well, a couple people will
asked what your favorite dish is to cook, and then
someone said, what is the weirdest thing you have ever cooked?
Speaker 2 (56:45):
My favorite dish is chicken marsala, the Italian version, not
the Indian version, and the weirdest thing God ever cooked.
M Well, I don't know. I saw these this thing
(57:07):
this lady made on Instagram. It was shrimp shrimp albundius,
which is basically like shrimp meatballs, and I did them
as an amuse for the restaurant that I was working at,
and they actually turned out really freaking good.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
Uh, this one. Uh, this is totally totally up to you.
But somebody asked if you have a social media presence
because they're very inspired by your lifestyle. Uh, if you
want to be flooded with with gecko people, you're you're
You're welcome to.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
Uh yeah sure. My Instagram handle was Met on the
Moon eight one six. My profile is public, so I
just post a lot of memes and stuff like that.
But it does have a fair amount of stuff that
I've done.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
I get Matt Man on the Moon, Man on the
Moon eight one six, is that kid cutting reference?
Speaker 2 (58:08):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, My guy live front.
Speaker 1 (58:12):
Row, Like, all right, we gotta get him on the podcast.
We got to get him in a get Go suit
maybe one.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
Day, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
Well Ron, Ron, it was fucking seriously, it's awesome talking
to you. Thanks for telling us the journey of your life.
I really do like it would be so cool to
me if like I get a DM like six months
after this podcast airs of someone being like yo, I
went on that website that Ron was talking about and uh,
(58:44):
now I live in uh fucking Costa Rica or whatever,
and I'm married and you know whatever, that'd be cool
if someone like actually does some shit off of.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
This, maybe I'll directtion it. Yeah, anybody, if you want
to go travel, get on cool works dot com. Uh.
There's all kinds of different states, Rhode Island, uh, freaking
anywhere you want to go in the US. There's more
than likely a job there that you can do. Uh.
(59:16):
There's places that you can live and eat for free
and just make money.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
Ron, my friend, is there anything else you want to
say to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
I'm always just stay persistent in your and your goals
and your dreams. You guys, if you got something that
you want to through, see it through. You may be
uncomfortable at the time game, but at the end of
the day, it'll be worth it.
Speaker 1 (59:42):
Ron You're hero, your legend. Thanks for thanks for your
time and uh mozeltov On on the Beautiful life and
the Beautiful family.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
Thank you well, it was an honor talking to you.
I've been trying for a long time, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
They have a good night. Oh what a call. What
a guy. That was one of my favorite calls we've
we've had in a while. That's really my favorite thing
about doing this podcast is like, uh, I know that
though the way this podcast is framed can sometimes be
(01:00:18):
like that it's like an advice podcast, and it definitely
uh exkews that way a lot of the time. But
I've said this before. My favorite thing about doing what
I do is that I get to, you know, not
only interact with people in a way where I'm like
getting to soak up the lived experience of other people
(01:00:44):
you know, all around the world, but also that you know,
part of that conversation is broadcasted to a bunch of people, uh,
such as you listening to this, who are also getting
to learn from other people's learned experience, lived experience. It's
really cool. It's really cool. So thank you very much
(01:01:07):
Ron for sharing your story. I'm gonna check out this
coolworks dot com thing because really, like if I wasn't
doing what I do now, that like serious, like if
tomorrow it was just like my podcast was scrubbed from
the Internet or whatever, like and I couldn't do this anymore,
that probably is what I would do. It's like just
(01:01:31):
be like, well fuck it, let's go to uh Alaska
and see what the hell's going on over there. So
I don't know, maybe I'll check it out. Very nice.
Do I have anything else to say?
Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
I could say that was cool again, that was cool.
I did enjoy that, and thank you for listening. Hello.
Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
How's it going?
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Hey there? What's your name?
Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
My name is Zach, Zach.
Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
What's up, Zach? How you doing?
Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Not much? I just graduated at MTSU. He actually came
and visited.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Us Falk dude. Ah man, you know, sometimes I feel
like a piece of shit and then I'm like, oh wait,
actually I've done a lot of cool things like that.
That happened to me recently. I was like, I like
I was talking to somebody about Middle Tennessee State University,
(01:02:39):
and I was like, oh yeah, that was only like
a couple months ago, and that was awesome. That was
a great time. Had a great time at that show.
Were you there?
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I was.
Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
I was in like the back. I showed up late
with like one of my friends and it was it
was It was a good show. I mean, your National
show was way better.
Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
I was also there really which Nashville, Yeah, the one
where Insane Posse showed up? Oh yeah, the one the
one was checking. Yeah, I love that one.
Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
I had a good fun.
Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
How did you hook that up?
Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
How did you get Like?
Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Well, he and I had been talking about because they're
in Detroit, and he and I had been talking about
me doing something with them like on the podcast, but
then it just both happened to be in Nashville at
the same time, and so he came on. Oh my god,
that was so cool. That was one of the sickest.
I had a great time at that show. That was
(01:03:35):
so cool. I think that was the only time we've
ever had like a like celebrity guest on a live
show before.
Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Well, that was like so impressive. I mean, and then
we had like two marriage proposals, like right after.
Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Yeah, that one was like nuts, that was fun. That
was fun. Yeah, I had a great time at that
uh at that college show. Those are good. That was
that was good. Well, okay, so you just graduated and yeah,
how are you doing? Are you depressed?
Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
No, no, no, don't worry. I'm on I'm on the
good side of like calls today.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
I mean like looking for like a job and stuff,
but I kind of just want to do uh a
thing called like jet program. We're just like teaching English
and like Japan.
Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Well, the guy we just talked to was uh like
I feel like kind of talking about those kinds of things.
Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Yeah, I I applied in like November, and now I'm
just like sitting around waiting until they get back to me,
which is like they do uh they do it in waves,
so like in like country by country, like South Africa
like heard back first and then the UK people just
(01:04:55):
heard about it, and then I'm just sitting around waiting around.
But I want to do it with like my partner
because we're both like just interested in living in Japan,
like traveling around and stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Really cool, really cool way Japan.
Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Uh, mostly just because of the culture and stuff. I mean,
like I like the United States, but I want to dip,
Like it's just kind of uncomfortable here in Tennessee. I
guess I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Japan kicks ass. Japan's a great place to hang out in.
I don't know a whole lot about Like I only
learned like a few Japanese phrases. But I feel like
with languages, it's like if you really kind of go
at it for a year, you can you can do
(01:05:57):
pretty good. Are you well, you're not trying to learn
in Japanese? You want to teach English in Japanese in Japan?
Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Yeah, So they don't have like many requirements like if
you want to like go to like South Korea or
anything like that, they require you to like do like
a TfL like course which is like one hundred and
twenty hours, but like you can do in like six months.
(01:06:23):
But we're also looking at those opportunities. But like all
those conversations started from like oh maybe maybe like Peace
Corps or something like that. I don't know. And we've
been applying around just saying what we want to put
ourselves forward towards.
Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
I think I think, yeah, with a lot of those
like ESL programs, it's interesting because I am. I do
know that a lot of them don't require you to
speak the language that you're teaching the people to, which
is crazy because when I was in eighth grade, I
(01:07:02):
took a Spanish class and that lady spoke English. Well, well, no,
you like you know, like like with like in America,
like all the like, like when you were in middle school,
you have to take like Spanish or French or some shit.
Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
I took German at high school.
Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Okay, you're German high school teacher. She spoke English, right.
Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Uh yeah, she like grew up here in America then
like went over to like Germany, and then I got
like a second teacher that had like committed his whole
life to like living in Germany and then coming back here.
Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
But like that would be crazy. If they just had
a just fully one hundred percent German lady come in
and just speak German to the whole time, you wouldn't
learn anything.
Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
My girlfriend, when she took like French at the high school,
they originally had like this like very country person teaching
like French, and apparently like after she got replaced by
a real French person, it was very very hard to
like transition to students because they had like created like
(01:08:14):
bad habits and stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Yeah. I mean, here's the thing with like learning the languages.
I feel like it's not that bad to like learn
it badly, Like like the the grammar doesn't really matter.
If you speak a broken second language, as as an American,
then you're doing pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
I had to learn a little bit of Spanish for
working at like a paint.
Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Store that I worked at.
Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
But like I'm like kind of adjusted towards like picking
up like phrases and like, yeah, just like the culture
surrounding it.
Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
I guess when I feel like when you try to
learn another language and then like you're talking to like
foreign people who are speaking English to you, you're like, oh,
this person's actually pretty fucking good at English.
Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
They're all shy about it too, Right.
Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Well, that's cool, man. I'm glad to hear that your
life is glad to hear that you're not depressed and
you're about to do a cool thing.
Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
But it's hard.
Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
I mean, like giving up like opportunities to like hang
out with my dogs and stuff or like my family
just to like jump ship.
Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Yeah, but you're right, you're twenty two, twenty four, twenty four. Yeah,
but if yeah, I mean, but you know, life's for living.
Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Yeah, no, that last call was great for that.
Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Well, brother, my friend, is there anything else you want
to say to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Get out there? And uh, actually we'll throw this out
uh google the High Face. I grew up in that religion,
the High One out there. Yeah, so it's a it's
a religion that's like uh uh they believe in like
the nine major religions, and I just want to put
that word out there. Oh happy hankut to you.
Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Oh thanks man. Wait, they just rolled all their religions
up into one fucking ball and it's just the High Face.
Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
They were like uh talking about like how uh uh
the Word of God goes through many different prophets, and
like how every like country or like culture has like
had a prophet, whether it's passed down orally or like
traditionally through like writing and stuff. And it was a
really really cool religion to grow up in.
Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
M hm, the hind Do you still believe? Do you
still believe in? Do you still believe in the High Faith?
Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
I would say yes, I'm definitely surrounded by like a
lot of people that aren't like, uh, you know, super religious,
but I generally believe that, like it's important to like
share your voice and like all the values that they
like taught early on. I guess, so I don't know,
(01:11:21):
Uh I, I don't know. We live in like a
perfect world with like perfect conditions for everything.
Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
I don't know, do you really believe that.
Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Kind of I mean, uh, if I kind of that,
that's a bad answer. I should say yes or no,
but yes, I don't know. Maybe I'm watching too many
YouTube shorts with like those science guys saying, uh uh,
can you believe the the I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Well I will well hold on. I not to you
lose faith in literally what you're just saying right now.
But it's cool that your YouTube shorts algorithm is sending
you videos about how the world is awesome and perfect
because most I don't know if I'm probably not alone
in this, but most of the internet content I get
(01:12:19):
fed is about how the world is horrible and we're
all going to die.
Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Man, I do watch a lot of car crash compilations.
Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Okay, yeah, you gotta balance it out, Yeah, Okay, I
have one final question, why do you believe the world
is perfect as it is?
Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
I guess I've been just living life on like easy
mode and I haven't really been like traumatized or really.
I mean, I've talked to other people about like trauma
and stuff, but it's ever been at like, I don't know,
my own personal experiences have been amazing, and I always
(01:13:11):
try to look at like saying yes to like opportunities
and those of like always because originally I didn't. I
didn't say yes to like all the opportunities that were
like presented to me, And I think, I don't know,
(01:13:33):
I just I'm surrounded by amazing people and an amazing partner,
good family that support me. I mean, I'm graduating debt
free and I know a lot of people don't have
that opportunity. But uh, I don't know, I just kind
of live in like a pretty perfect world.
Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
I'm happy for you, man. Maybe it's the maybe the
High Faith is Maybe the High Faith is what led
you to this. Maybe. Yeah, this episode, everyone's gonna check
out the High Faith, and they're going to check out
that other website cool works, Yeah, cool works, cool Works,
and the High Faith.
Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Hey, you're gonna check it out too.
Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Yeah, I'm gonna check outn check out both of those websites.
I don't want to do. I don't want to do
while I'm on the phone with you, because I think
that would be rude. But that sounds like a good
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do both of those things
as soon as I get off of recording this. What's
your name again, it's Zach, Zach. Zach. Thanks for sharing
(01:14:37):
your life with us on this podcast today.
Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Well, thank you, Le.
Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Is there anything else you want to say to the
people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
I've said my words.
Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
I like that it's confident, UH make may all of
the gods of the nine major religions bless you, and
UH have a good rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Here you kill me?
Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Bye?
Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
That was nice. That was really nice. Yeah. I also
I thought about doing like English as a second language
teaching shit too, But I always thought it was crazy
that you don't have to, like, like, if you want
to teach English to people who only speak Spanish, you
don't even have to know Spanish. But like, if I
(01:15:28):
was in high school and I had a Spanish teacher,
I didn't speak English, I'd be like, what is this
lady talk about, never goes on the line, taking your
phone calls every night, Everything goes to and and I
I was
Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Teaching your cloud in the mean of your life that
he's not really an expert.
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