November 24, 2024 • 61 mins
I am joined by musician and filmmaker Flying Lotus to talk to people on the phone as geckos.
We talk to callers about living with family, navigating the job market, being shunned, and paintball leagues. We also talk to each other about UFOs and ET other cool stuff. It was fun. You’ll have fun.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Flying Lotus. Hello, What has been the most persistent thought
on your mind lately?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh, that's a good question. I think the most persistent
thought on my mind lately is is, Yeah, I guess
how to take care of my home.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
How have you been taking care of your home?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Not very well? I think the past couple of years
I kind of let some things go around the house,
and I'm paying for it a lot this year, literally
paying a lot for it. So yeah, I've just been
I've been thinking about how to improve my home a
lot lately. That's been really persistent in my mind.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
What thing about what aspect of your home are you
the most excited to improve?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Good question. The exciting thing to improve? Well, I have
a retaining wall that fell.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Are there any parts of your house you're afraid to
go near because you're like, I don't know what that
looks like. I'm in fear of that.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Absolutely. There's so many parts of my house where Yeah,
it's like kind of like a horror movie in there.
I think I think it is possibly haunted. It's a
house from the thirties. It looks like a horror like
a blumhouse house. It looks like some blumhouse shit where
I live for sure, but I love it. I moved
(01:24):
into a hant house on purpose. I'm like that kind
of person.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You moved into a hont house on purpose. So we
were talking before we started rolling, and you told me
that you've been listening to like, like UFO podcast podcasts. Yeah,
and is that that's kind of like up your alley.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, well for several reasons. Yeah. One, yeah, there's a
very specific reason. But uh, yeah, I've been really into
this stuff lately, ever since that, you know, David Grush
came forward, like.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
The guy who said that UFOs were real basically, yeah,
like Area fifty one or something that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Was lou Elizondo. Yeah that was recent. Yeah, that was
more recent. But I've been following it and just I
find itself fascinating that, you know, we're in a place
where you know, we're having we're having a UAP hearing
next week about this stuff. There's, like, you know, one
of the biggest hearings about it ever.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Do you want to meet aliens?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, you know, I don't know. I don't know if
I want. I mean, I want to see something. I
want to see something and know for sure, I definitely
believe there's something else going on. But is it all aliens.
I don't know about that. I think there's a lot
of this stuff is like secret technologies that are being
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hidden from us, maybe for good reason.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I was trying to find like interviews of you and
like podcasts and stuff while I was setting everything up
that I could, I could listen to. And I listened
to one where you talked to about being like I
forgive me if I'd not remembering this correct, but you
were like visited by some like shadow Creek shadowing.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Oh wow, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, and that like jump start that jump started.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Like yeah, the paranormal for me.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
The paranormal did that. I think you said that jump
started something artistically for you.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Ah well, it just it was one of those things.
It just blew me away, man, And I was I was,
you know, I was a kid who maybe like fifteen
sixteen or something like that. I wasn't even smoking weed
or anything at the time, you know, So it was
like a real sober experience to have to happen to me.
Where I woke up and I I saw a shadow person,
(03:45):
like a silhouette type shadow person sitting in my chair.
The chair was facing the bed. Why would the chair
be facing the bed. I don't know. The thing saw
me see it? Oh shit, like God ran out the
room like no bullshit?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
What I so what do you?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
What?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Do you? What do you think that was?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I don't know. I think for so long I just
told myself it's just like residual dream stuff that you
bring into this world. But people have reported this for
so long and I don't know, and maybe there's something
to it. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Do you believe not? Like you, Everyone hopes that paranormal
that like outer world beings that will come to visit us,
are are going to be uh chill and have peaceful intentions.
But do you think that is the case or do
you think they will, as we have done to the
(04:46):
other creatures on our universe, fuck their ship up.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I wouldn't be surprised. But at the same time, if
you look at the track record right of their you know,
the the sightings that we've had here with the military,
they've all said kind of the opposite. It's like they've
diffused nukes, they've you know, shut down weapon systems and stuff.
It seems like they're demonstrating that they're like wait a minute, now,
(05:12):
y'all ain't got nothing in control. We can do this
and if we wanted to, we would, but it never
seems like a hostile thing. There was this they just
the Pentagon just reported about these drones that were flying
around an airport last year and we don't know what
kind of drone they were, Like, yo, we don't know
what these things are, but we didn't shoot them down
because they weren't hostile. So you know, maybe maybe they're
(05:38):
not out to do anything but show us, you know,
give us something to worship or something. Who knows, you know,
maybe they're they're the angels.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And when you're I don't know if you're actively doing
research on UFOs every day, but like when when you were,
we all get stuck in like internet rabbit holes, rabbit
hole when you're in a when you're in a rabbit
hole and you're reading about like UFOs and like the
beyond the are you are you reading it like ooh
that's exciting, that's interesting that, Oh that could be quick,
(06:09):
could be nice, or are you reading it like oh no, Like,
are do you do you asso see these with? Did
do you s see these rabbit holes with like anxious feelings?
Or like feelings of like excitement and wonder.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I find there was a moment there where I was like,
oh my god, why are they hiding all this stuff?
What is going on? But then after a while just
became more fascinating because you know, as far as we've
come and all this stuff, these moments have happened over
you know, the past eighty years. We've had these moments
where we thought we were going to get disclosure, we
(06:44):
got whistle blowers coming forward with information, and you know
we're still waiting for, you know, the the one photo
to ruin it all.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Right, right, right? What are some other rabbit holes you
find yourself into?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Good rabbit holes?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Mhm.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I've been playing a lot of a lot of video
games lately. Yeah, I've been going back playing a lot
of stuff. I think the new Silent Hill came out
and then it kind of took me back into more
of like some of the old PlayStation games, and then
I'm playing Fasmophobia on console. I've heard a lot of
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people talking about that ghost hunting game, which is a
lot of fun, a lot of fun. And I play
Call of Duty with with the crew play that we play.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Call Duty seems like the most basic I'm playing around
eighth grade because I realized that, like you're like the
the the game itself is not what I'm after. I
just get like a hit in my brain when I yeah, like,
but it's not a positive Oh I am executing my
(08:02):
skill in this game.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Hit.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's like a fuck that piece of shit camper Nube.
Like the adrenaline of being like fucking angry is what
is the hit that I'm after? And I was like,
I don't like this, I'm gonna play.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Oh yeah, I don't know. I don't get into it
like that. No, no, no, no, it's it's still enjoyable.
It's still enjoyable. I'm not mad at nobody. Like if
I'm if I'm mad at anybody, it's myself because my aim.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Is trash or what does anything make you make me mad?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
In general?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Hell yeah? Off top though, I feel like I'm pretty
chill person. I try not to react instantly to stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
You seem like a pretty chill person. I've only been
I've probably been around you for less than thirty minutes,
but you have you got a chill vibe.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Chill yeah, chill Aura. Someone told me I was a
walk e Xanax before.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I was all right, I'll take you take that as
a point of pride.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Uh no, no, because I think a lot of times
I would rather just be confrontational with people. But you know,
sometimes there's.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Like you would rather be part confident, Like there's a
part of your brain where you're like, I want, I
feel as though.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I should speak up for myself right now, yourself, But then.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
You have another part of your brain that's kind of
like I don't want to be out fucking yeah. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I I think about that myself as well,
And I don't know. I think there's something to be
said about like the path of whatever path, what path
(09:58):
is going to create the most amount of peace in
my own brain? And sometimes I was gonna say some
I was gonna default the same that the answer is
usually to not say anything. But sometimes you say something
and then you work it out a little bit, and
then after that you're like, oh, I feel so much
more peaceful than if I never Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Absolutely, there's so many moments the you're like, ooh, was
that a foot in the mouth, and then someone hits
you and be like, yo, I'm so glad you said something.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, totally totally, totally, totally, Yeah, I don't know. It's
a are you into like stoic philosophy kind of no vibes?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
No, no, no, I'm not. I don't. I don't subscribe to that.
That's that's how style belief or anything. I'm just more like,
you know, I'm not trying to complicate my life anymore.
You don't at that point.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
It's just like, yo, what do you like? And this
is obviously something that evolves over time, like do you
like do you think you're does life feel complicated to you?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah? I think life gets it feels more complicated. The
weight of life is more complicated as we as we
get older, And you know, I think, uh I envy
people who can still, you know, take psychedelics all the
time and not worry, because I wish I could. I
feel like I'm at that point where I'm like, nah,
(11:30):
I'll just I'll just be dwelling on all the things
I need to do, all the things I gotta get done.
The retaining walls felled out, you know what I mean,
the house, Yeah, you know, like I just, uh I
envy that, But at the same time, I feel like
I've seen all that stuff already. Sure, I definitely talk
to them.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So that's the fact that what you said, I've seen
all that stuff before. I'm I ask out of genuine curiosity,
why do you feel as though things get more complicated
as you get older, because I would think it would
be the opposite, because when you're young, you don't you
have no frames of references.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I think you're probably right, But I'm not at that
older Okay, you know, I'm still in the older where
I'm like, still like I got the fire in me,
you know, but I'm not like, when I don't have
that anymore, then I'll probably be that older where I'm like.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, fuck it, fucking man, Well but you can. But yeah,
but there's some some people lose the fire when they're
like nineteen, and then some people.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, because they ruined their lives early on or something.
They did something and they just like they had that
moment where they're like, they probably ain't gonna get no
better than this.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
That's bummer.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Well what keeps?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
What's what are you fired up about?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm fired up about the possibilities. I'm fired up about
the tools and learning. I'm always learning stuff, and you know,
I'm always trying to learn stuff about music, and you know,
I get really excited about that stuff all time, filmmaking
things and writing ideas, and you know, I have all
these movies in my head I want to make, and
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so it's that part is yeah, keeps me, keeps me
super motivated.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
What kind of movies you have to watch?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I like to watch all types of stuff I don't like.
I don't like war movies as much, but that's been
my opinions on that have changed a little bit. Yeah,
there's some like you know, the hard Oscar dramas that
come out around now till January Oscar season. I usually
(13:39):
don't like those movies or I just choose not to
watch them, just because when I do have the time
to watch a movie and I kind of want to
just be entertained and have a good time.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, you don't want to get into like a deep
Have you ever watched Schindler's List?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It's actually on my list to watch soon and depress myself.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Well, it's been on my list for about seven years now.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Since the nineties.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, because I just keep I'm like, because I'm never
gonna be in the mood.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
No, it's so funny you say that because I did
all I've been doing all the Spielbergs stuff the past
couple of months, and that's like hanging over like, hey,
I'm waiting for you, you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Well, if you're doing if you were like if you are,
like I am making it a thing to sit down
and watch all the spiel and you come across it,
then you're like, yeah, there.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You know, I just watched ET for the first time, dude,
But like that, honestly was probably the most hardcore movie
I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
What what?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
What?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
What was it? What was it that made it?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Man? It was hard? Man. That was a hard movie
just in terms. It was like my first time watching
it ever, never seen it, but it was it was
so beautiful and and so sweet that it was hardcore,
I think because it was just so hard hardcore, optimistic
about the future, about adults, and it was obviously like
(15:07):
just so emotional, you know, I was. I was profoundly
moved by that movie. I was like crying for like
a half hour watching.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I'm excited to see What's What's what ultimately made you
cry more Between Et and Chandler's List.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It'll be ET for sure, because there was as soon
as I started watching, I was like, oh my god,
I feel like I'm ten washing yeah, you know, and
it's like it's still that thing was still effective. Whatever
he did, the magic, it's it was, it's still there.
And uh and I was just it was so cool
to have not seen it this whole time and then
finally see it. It felt like it was like it
(15:42):
was waiting for But.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I like that though, that shows that there's something like
more moving about optimism than there is about uh depressing ship.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah. Oh yeah. For me, it's because it's so that's
the movie. That's the fiction, is the the optimism and
the hopeful thing where it's just like, oh man, if
only we could, you know, if only we could.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Just I haven't seen E T And you know what,
what what was it that you think made it optimistic?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
H I think that for one, you know, the aliens
were like, you know, just here to like look at
plants and stuff. They were just like biologists, you know,
they're just studying stuff. And and you know, the the humans,
the bad guys, they're like kind of the bad guys
that got the bad guy music. Whenever you see the
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the adults and stuff. But even the adults, we're trying
to help et. They were, oh, they weren't trying to
kill him.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Well, I thought that the whole I thought that there
like the police guy, right, it's like you're trying to
kill you think they're trying to hem. They're all trying
to help that guy who was like they fly over him.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
They need they actually e t or the human. The
adults pretty much they try to save him as he
was dying, and they you know, they hit the defibrillator
on him. It looked as a kid the kids are like,
oh my god, you're killing him, but they're actually doing
their best to keep him alive. And uh, And I
think like the main the main bad guy he says
(17:25):
to the kid, he was like, he was like, you
remind me of when I was you Like, I've been
waiting for this moment since I was ten years old.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
That's really sweet.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah. And I was just like, and this is the
this is the guy who's got the bad guy. I mean,
I just thought that was like a really interesting choice
to make. And it was just still like you could
have made the bad guy be like no, you're stupid.
We're gonna lock you in a room, and you know
you're no one will believe you and all this stuff.
They could have done that and it would have still worked,
(17:55):
but like they chose to make the the parents and
the adults still well optimistic and hopeful. And I think
this is really hardcore.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Weird.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, that's that's nice. That a movie where it's like
we're all going to eventually give in to our humanity
and that that's the destination, and not like we're all
going to kill each other.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It'd be nice, wouldn't it.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
It will be nice. It will be nice. You want
to take a phone call, let's do it. Hey, what's
up man?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Hey? I didn't think i'd actually i'd actually get through.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
To you now that you're here. What's up? Dog? What's
your name?
Speaker 6 (18:47):
My name is Isaac, Isaac?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
What's up, Isaac? We want to talk about today? What's
going on?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Wow?
Speaker 6 (18:57):
I'm twenty four and I'm living with my parents for
the first time since I was fourteen, and it is
just what I remember. But I don't have a way
of leaving unless I want to go be homeless again.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Wait, why why did you leave the house for the
first time when you were fourteen?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
My parents threw me out?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Really, where'd you go.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
It was Kansas City's where we were at, and I
was homeless around there, kind of just out on the
street for five years until twenty nineteen when I moved
to Colorado with my.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Brother and then brought what brought you back back in? Like,
did you have like a what's the opposite of a
falling out? Did you have a coming in with your parents?
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Not really, so we didn't. We didn't talk for a
really long time. And it was about twenty nineteen. End
of twenty nineteen, I was not on good terms with
my brother, and uh we were. We were going our
separate ways, and I started talking to my parents again
(20:13):
and they they drove up and picked me up and
dropped me off in Montana. They were on their way
to Washington for some military think and uh, that was
like the first time that I had seen them. But
it was only for the car, right, you know, So
it wasn't It wasn't a whole lot of talking. I
told them how much I appreciated it, and I gave
them gas money.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
But wait, what did you what did your parents did?
What happened with your parents? Like? What did you why?
Why do you have beef with them? Why they have
beef with you. Why did they and why they kick
you out? What did you do?
Speaker 6 (20:46):
There are kind of a lot of reasons, but the
biggest kicker was that I had started I was a
dumb high school kid. I'd started smoking weed. And since
they both worked for the government, that's like, will lose
their job, We'll all lose everything if they over some weed.
If no one finds out ye over some weed.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Oh man, that's some bullshit.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Well they tried to handle it. Well, first thing my
mom did, just kicks me out of height in the woods.
I said they didn't want it in the house, and
I was a shithead, and I was a shithead and
not not listening.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Why does that? Why does this phone call feel like
it does weirdly mirror the plot of E T where
it's like we have a secret we must keep from right.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, it sounds like you just you're just trying your best, man,
like you you know, trying to you know, you're just
trying to smoke weed and and do your thing and
don't let that ship get to you so hard, man.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
You know, Well, I mean we've got a we've got
a better deal now, just not within twenty five feet
of the house, and I'm better about keeping it outside
the tent set up in the in the backyard, out
by the woods.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You have a you have a fucking hot box tent
set up at the back of the woods.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Damn right, I do.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
What do your parents do in the military.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
My mom's a medic and my stepdad's infantry.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
And you didn't want to do any do any of that,
did you?
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I tried. I grew up doing military stuff, and I
went to a bunch of military schools, and when I
was in high school, I started doing r OTC before
they threw me out and I rold me from high school.
But when I tried to when I turned eighteen and
I tried to apply, apparently I have a scoliosis and
(22:34):
a bad shoulder, and they wouldn't let me come in
for either of those things. That's rotato cuff. Well, yeah,
I have a bad rotator cuff on my right arm,
and there's certain.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Things I couldn't do with that. Huh. With that rotator
cuff it made you.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Couldn't do for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
So what do you do now?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Well?
Speaker 6 (23:01):
I was maintenance at at a string of hotels. I
did a security for a while, but I'm I'm kind
of between. I started a new one on on Monday,
so so I'm excited. But I'll just be slaying pizzas.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
That's good, slinging pizzas.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
And yeah, make some money, man, make some money. Don't
don't give up on yourself though, you know, like this
is just a moment in time. You know, you're still
really young, twenty four. That ain't too crazy. Tho you
got you got time.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Well, that's good to hear a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I know people, I know people in their forties. You know,
I don't know what to do anymore, you know, like
don't worry.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Like it's like everybody everyone feels that way sometimes.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Absolutely absolutely you got this.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It is what we were kind of just talking about,
like like like trying to and I feel the same way.
I I yeah, I have a I was looking at
my I'm trying to like track my brain over time.
So I was like looking at journal entries from years ago,
and I was like, I'm twenty four and I wrote
like when I was twenty four, I was like, I'm
twenty four and I like feel dead. But now I'm
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twenty six and I'm still I'm still optimistic. You know,
why not? Why not be optomis? Why not be optimistic?
You're gonna fucking give you give yourself a shot of
some fucking kind, you know, because I mean you're not
You're gonna be alive with modern medicine for the next
one hundred and forty years.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
So right, seriously, I don't know that'll be a lot.
I'll find it back at least.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
That'd be a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
But just before we go, uh, what did you say?
Your name was?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Isaac?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Isaac?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Isaac. That's a good name.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
That's a good name. That's a very strong name. There's
a lot of I mean it sincerely. I mean this sincerely.
I think there's a lot of nobility in slinging pieces
because you know, there's a lot of stoned fourteen year
olds out there who you might see yourself in, who
have stolen their mom's credit card to buy a pizza,
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and you're helping them those folks.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, and obviously you're you know, you're trying to be
in the military, you know you Yeah, probably have really
strong values. You'll just just keep doing you work hard.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Isaac, Is there anything else you want to say to
the people of the computer or to God before we go.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Keep your head up. Even when things get get really dark,
the sound always comes back up.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Take care, I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Thanks for talking with me. Have a good day.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That was nice. Yeah, let's start off strong.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah. Yeah, well you were asking me. We were also
talking and you were like, do people mainly call in
to like, uh troll you and stuff? And it happens sometimes,
But I think, uh, I think both. I'm very like.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I think mostly people just start, like want to talk
about life because it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, as as they should. I'm glad people don't squander
this moment.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
You should we do another one.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
From Yoda?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
What's up? Yoda?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Not much? What's up with you?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Chilling? Were chilling vibe? Yeah you guys, Yeah, we're both out.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Yeah, yeah, little. It's been crazy though since the since
yesterday though, it's been pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Has been pretty crazy?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Crazy in your life? Or is just crazy in the world?
Speaker 5 (27:04):
I think in my life and in the world. So
it's like a synergetic thing.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
What happened, what happened to you? We all know what's
going on in the world.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, yeah, what's what's going on with you?
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I wouldn't say it's like super crazy. But so I'm
doing a PhD and it's just a lot going on,
and then plus the election, so now I'm like worried
about I guess how that might affect I guess job
opportunities and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
But yeah, what's your industry.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
I'm in ecology and evolutionary prology, so like nature stuff. Yeah,
you know the parties don't well the Red Party doesn't
give a fuck about that.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
So yeah, well then you know how much how much
longer are you in school?
Speaker 5 (27:56):
I think what four more years?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
I just started?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
All right, great, so by the time you're out of school,
we have a new president and most likely be Democrat
and reverse all the ship that's about to happen, right.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
So you'll be there's not optimism, don't trip.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah yeah, where are you saying? Where do you live?
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Oh, I'm just moved to just like Colorado.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
You'll be fine to just all rocks on fire, You'll
be fine over there.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That's cool. Well, at least here's what I'll say this,
because there's a lot of stuff with like, uh, you know,
the election where I'm where, I'm like, well, fuck, what
can I like at least you're at least you're in
a position where you are can like actually do something
about the ship that you care about, you know, Like
that's I think there's a lot to be sometimes anxiety
(28:57):
is just like you can you can knnot like curate,
but you can work on it by just the fact
that you're doing something, like, you know, take the pollution
out of one stream. I don't know, I don't know
if that made any sense, but you know, whatever you
can do.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Yeah, do the best we can. That's like, I guess
what all.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Of us are trying to do at the end of
the day. I think you know, no matter who you
voted for, you know, we're all people looking at each
other trying to make sense of this moment in reality
and time. So just continue to have passion for your
fellow human being. We're all trying. Some of us aren't
trying hard, but we're all trying. Don't worry, We'll be
(29:45):
all right.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, we're collectively trying. When you throw us all together
and yeah, yeah, yeah, here's the thing is, uh, I
don't do this as a bit.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
I'm a green guy.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You're green. Oh yeah, we're we're two point nine green.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Guys, exactly, it's three.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Is there anything else? Is there anything else you want
to say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Uh yeah, flying logs. I love your stuff, guys, I
love your stuff. This is my first time getting on
after like thousands of calls. And yeah, I'm also an artist,
so check my stuff on Instagram at goth hobby. What
is it with three H goth hobby? So g oh yeah,
goth g o t h h h o bb I
(30:38):
T I do like clothes and stuff like that. So
if you want to it with two hs, you guys
got with three.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
H triple H triple all right, cool man, I'll check
it out.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Why not, I'll check it out, that's for sure. No,
it was nice talking to you guys.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, take care of man, Take care brother, right, busy.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I need to do.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
People like send you beats often and they're like, what
do you think of my beats?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Every day?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
How do you ever look at them?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I probably shouldn't say yeah, right, because if I do,
then I'll get in trouble.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
But you shouldn't say yes, or shouldn't say I.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Shouldn't say yes right because then they oh shit, I
do Occasionally I'm occasionally I'm really curious and I like
to just know what's going on. So yeah, I do listen,
and it's always the ones who don't have a following
that are just crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, yeah interesting. I was also gonna, I'm gonna, I'm
gonna have a little uh fanboy moment here. My favorite
work of yours is the Awkward TV show show.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
That was a fun moment in time, man.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Honestly, like, we were sitting here and I was looking
at the chat while it was playing, and it was
like and someone in the chat was like, yo, man,
my favorite work of yours is the Aqua TV show
show theme song. And then I fucking remembered. I was like, yo,
he did the TV show show theme song. I've like
watched that on YouTube on a repeat.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Like, yeah, it's funny because I forget sometime I'm sure,
I'm sure, you know, and then sometimes it'll come on,
you know, adult Swim or something like that, and then
the intro come out, Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Do you are you an Aquatan fan?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, big fan, big fan of
Dave Willis, the writer he did that show Your Pretty
Faces Going to Hell.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, I was a fun fact. I was an intern
on that show seven years ago. How was Atlanta? It
was very it was difficult.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It seems like a tough, tough gig.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Well here's the Here's like, this is like a full
circle moment for me. Is when I worked on the show,
one of my jobs was, like everyone, all the people,
the cast is like heavally caked in red. So the
cast is heavily painted in red. And like, one of
my jobs was they had the showers on set, and
(33:04):
one of my jobs was to like scrub red paint
off of showers. And now I'm fucking up showers with
my green paint. And I'm like, you know, I knew
we'd make it one day.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
That's right, Yeah, let it let it rain green bro
hm hmm.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Do you still watch it? He still watch it?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Alsewie very often, not as much. There's not too much
stuff on there that I can get into. But I'm
always watching some of the older classics. I want to
redo all the Metal Acalypse episodes.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Redo that cool cool, that'd be sick. Are you smiling? Friends?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
You know I tried to get into that. I love
that guy, Michael Cusack. I love him. I've been trying
to get in that show. I haven't really got the
episode that one that pulls me in, but I know
everyone loves that one. That's like the big show.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, it's definitely like they're the kind of anchor show. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I wasn't really added about the Rick and Morty anime though.
That really me. That really disturbed me.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Why did it disturb you?
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I didn't like the animation, Yeah, I feel yeah, just
like the I think it just kind of lost the
comedy and in some of the just the beats got
lost because the animation is weird.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
It just it just Uh, do you have any thoughts
or desires to do any more like animation stuff in
the future.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I love animation. I do animation at home and stuff.
I use unreal engine and make stuff. Yeah, it's a
lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. But I
have to work on music right now. But after a
couple more months, I can reward myself with some silly
meat projects.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I love. That makes me so happy. You were like,
after I finished working, I'm going to reward myself with
more work. It's a good. It's a good. It's a
good sign.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I mean, I really do, I really love it. It's so
much fun.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
You want to take any phone call?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, I'm Greg.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Hey, what's up man? How you doing? What's your name?
My name is Tom, Tom Tom Thomas.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Well I just want to say, first of all, first
time caller, big time fan, I'm coming to your show
on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Oh cool. Oh you'll be at the show on Saturday.
Very nice?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Is it here?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
It's Hollywood Forever? Yeah, yeah, it's I was always funny
that like a bunch of people are dead outside and
have a good time.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah. I played there a couple of times. It's really nice.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
What's up with you? Thomas? Would you want to talk
about today?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Well, the biggest thing in my life right now is that,
uh I may be gettin shunned from my family and
everyone I know. Uh Dune.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
May be getting what shunned?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Shunned?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Why?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Why?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Well it's a long story, but pretty much, uh you know,
just uh all right, put this. I don't want to myself,
to be.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Honest, I don't know, I don't know. I'm a little
nervous on the edge of whatever. Whatever you want to share, man,
it's it's whatever, whatever, whatever, how much of this you
want to share is up to you.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Man. No, I want to know, yeah, you didn't call
it here for nothing show what's up?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
No, definitely, Now I was raised up Johah's witness I'm
sure I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
At a guy who was raised up Jehovah's witness right.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Now, Okay, but yeah that way. Yeah, but of course,
you know, it's something that you know, I don't believe
in anymore. And so I've kind of been doing my
thing for a couple of years now. But recently, you know,
(37:22):
I've been dating and you know, been seeing someone and
and you know, when you are gained something, you want
to have them over. And so, uh, it just came
down to that. Somehow my parents, you know, found out
(37:43):
that I was seeing someone and that you know, she
stayed the night and yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
By his family. Yeah, well that's fucking wild. Yeah, are
you fucking serious? Are you for real?
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Man?
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Laugh, you know, go on YouTube and and search up
ex Joe's witnesses and oh yeah, people have all different
crazy stories. You know, it's not comed I've heard.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I've heard, I've heard some things. Yeah, that's that's really rough.
And you know, there's a part of me that wants
to just say, you know, give them the time too.
To get past it and for everyone to get over it.
But you know, you never really know. You never really know,
but you can always hope. But you can't let that
stop you from your happiness and being who you are.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
No, definitely. I mean I've been on this journey for
a couple of years now and like you know, it's
it's been pretty rough. Like you know, when it first happened,
this is like fairly fresh within a month, you know,
like I kind of knew it was gonna happen sooner
or later. But it's just you know, just seeing the effects,
(39:04):
Like it affects my parents more than anything. But it's
like you can't really you can't really open up and
talk to them because for me, it's like, you know,
I just don't believe in in the face like if
you start, if you again, you know, if you do
your research or like you know, the whole history of it,
(39:27):
it's pretty pretty wild. And like you know that they
they use stunning as like a control tactic, but the
way they teach it, it's like a loving thing that
you know when when you shine your your child or
your parent whatever to help them see that, yeah, you see,
(39:47):
you're you're trying to help them see the error of
their way so that they come back. But in reality,
it's just a control tactic too, you know, get get
you to go back to, you know, being part of
the organization. But like you know, already told myself, like
you know, I don't believe I'm not gonna live a
lot anymore. But it's like you know, freedom isn't free. Yeah,
(40:10):
miss is Sally, one of the prices I have to pay.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
What's your name?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Man?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Sorry, I forget everyone's Thomas.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Tom.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
We did that. We said it four times Tom.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Man, I I mean this sincerely. I hope you really,
I really mean this. I think you are completely utterly
entitled to live a life where you can simultaneously believe
whatever you want and live your life however you want,
and have people in your life who care, care about
(40:49):
you and love you. Man. Yeah, I I I'm sorry
to hear you're struggling with these particular people, but I
hope that you remain optimistic that the people who will
love you and support you regardless of how you want
(41:11):
to live your life do exist, even even even if
it's just you for now, you know, even if just
your you accept yourself, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
I mean, don't get me wrong. Like I have family
that that's not even like you know, never been j
W and like, you know, one of my aunts, you know,
she texted me, She's like, hey, you know pretty much
invited me over for Thanksgiving, you know, coming up, and
you know, I haven't celebrated Thanksgiving and like I don't
know over eighteen years since you know, both my family
(41:48):
like converted over there, right, But it's like, you know,
that's not my family. You know, they don't care, like
they don't judge, and so I know that it's I
know there's good people out there, but it's just, you know,
I really came to like I'm already okay with like,
(42:09):
you know, not having the same friendships with the people
I used to go to church with and you know,
those relationships. But when it's your parents, you know, it's
the people that raised you, Like you know, they're doing
it because they feel like they're they're trying to be
loyal to God. And I mean, who am I to
(42:30):
tell them, you know, to not be loyal to God.
That's what they honestly believe, you know.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I think you just need to give them time. If
you ask me, I think you just everyone needs a
little bit of time to heal from whatever this moment is.
I think that you know, I've heard similar stories and
it may have taken years for these things to heal,
but they do in time. And I would just hope
(42:57):
that you know, you remember the love your families love
and know that at the end of the day, they
really do love you. They just don't. They don't know
any better. They're just grown babies, you know. So yeah,
just just have faith at the time it'll it'll you'll
be able to pick up and they'll understand who you
are and and love that.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
I mean, I just I just have to be okay
with it because you know, it is what it is.
I can't change the past, that's right.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
And do you want to?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Do you? Do you want to change the paths? Like?
Do you You don't want to change bads? You want
to continue doing what you're doing. So let them learn
to love you and accept you.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, have you have you gotten to do any drugs
since you since you left? Have you tried cocaine? Have
you strippers?
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Like?
Speaker 1 (43:47):
What have you got? Have you been? Have you like
let it ride at all?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Right? Full extreme?
Speaker 3 (43:53):
You know that's the thing. It's like, that's like the
thing with you know x J w Is. You know
they feel like, oh, you know, now that I'm not
in anymore, I have to live like everyone else and
like party hard. But no, like I've you know, I've
gone out clubbing and partying and that's been fun. And
(44:13):
I tried, you know, smoking weed a couple of times
with my with my date, but you know, I didn't
get high either time. So like maybe I'm just being able.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
To who's the chick, Who's who's who's the date. She
sounds like a good influence. She's like, I'm trying to
fuck in your house. I'm trying to fuck you in
your house, and you're gonna smoke this weed too. She
sounds like a good influence. I like her.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
No, she's pretty cool. I won't say her name because
I don't think, you know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Know if she's.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Well, how'd you guys meet?
Speaker 5 (44:49):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Hinge?
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Very nice. She also come from like a like a
like a religious background or anything like that, or she's gonna.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
We grew up Catholic, You grew up Catholic. But you
know she had you know, she had her own like,
you know, seeing stuff in her childhood that kind of
turned her off from religion. So like you know, she
you know, she's been very like compassionate, you know with
my situation.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
And yeah, yeah, it sounds like you need to hang
on to that one right there.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
And you let your parents coming with me to your
show on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Oh cool, all right, I'm excited to meet you guy.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
I try to try to. I try to meet everyone
after the show. So if you can be like I'm
the guy who talked about being an next Jehovah's witness
and we can be like holy Ship we talked on
the phone like two days ago. Well ship, man, I'm
looking forward to uh to see Yeah, thanks for thank
(45:52):
thanks for thanks for calling into the show and being
fucking genuine about your life.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, yeah, I mean difficult. I hope I hope, like
I said that, whatever direction you choose to go with
your life, you know, I hope you're optimistic that you'll
you'll find people to be there with you.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Yeah. I have, you know, I've connected with people recently,
you know, meet new people and you know already have
like you know, someone who's offering to you know, let
me see at their place. If if you know I
have to move out because I mean, I don't live
with my parents, but I do rent for my dad.
So like it depends, you know, how you define if
(46:34):
I live on my own or not. But anyway, yeah,
like I'm trying to, you know, expand spread my wings.
And you know, I'm back in therapy, so I'm talking
to my therapist about it and you know, just trying
to you know, just be prepared for what may come.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
That's great, that's the best you can do. You're doing in.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
The work, Tomas. Is there anything that's gonna say to
the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (47:06):
Yeah, I mean, just a big fan of the stream
or the podcast, been listening since twenty twenty one, called
over a hundred times. Don't give up, just keep calling,
And yeah, I mean your your show is pretty inserting.
I listened to all the time when I'm at work.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Thanks man, I appreciate that. I'm uh, I'll see you.
I'll see you on Saturday. And I think I think
it'll be a good show. I think it'll be fun.
We'll uh we will dance on the graves of all
the dead people afterwards.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
All right, sounds good.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Thanks for doing all right?
Speaker 1 (47:41):
See you later, see you later. All right, thanks forever, bye,
Thanks them. How you doing.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Good, I'm good. Good.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Do you. Were you religious growing up?
Speaker 3 (47:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I wasn't religious, but you know there there's religion practiced,
but everyone was cool and you know, just do your
own thing. Yeah, sure, I'll show you this stuff and
here yeah yeah, uh yeah yeah. No.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
I I felt like I was like when he said
I'm about to be shunned by everybody, I was like,
I was, like, I was. I thought he was gonna
like say something worse, worse, but then I was like, oh,
I feel so I felt uh, I felt for him.
That's like so fucking uh tough when like you grow
like you grow up and like you're kind of taught
(48:38):
to believe a certain thing or like live a certain way,
and then when you try to form some independence for yourself,
it's like the people around you, your parents, your friends,
your family should celebrate you wanting to fucking you know,
grow and improve and be your own human being. And
it's a it's a fucking bummer when they don't.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, it's their journey though, to to kind of figure
that out for themselves. But it's I always think about
that if I would have had parents or upbringing where
they weren't supportive of me being an artist or being
creative and stuff, and I'm sure that it would have
been so different because I needed that support. I think.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Do you have a good relationship with your parents?
Speaker 2 (49:20):
No, they're they're dead.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Oh yeah, do you have a good relationship with the
with their parents?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Yes? Yes, considering you know, like when of course everyone's
going to complain a little bit, but yeah, I was.
I'm very lucky to have had some some really good influences.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Do you do you have kids?
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:40):
How many kids you have?
Speaker 2 (49:41):
I have one?
Speaker 1 (49:42):
What's how old is your kid?
Speaker 2 (49:44):
It's four? What is that?
Speaker 1 (49:45):
What's that like?
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
It's an asshole?
Speaker 1 (49:54):
I mean I'm sure. Yeah, Well, when you're four years old,
you don't care about you know, you're you're kind of
you're operating on a of course you're gonna be an asshole.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah, yeah you should as you do. I just got
a puppy too.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
You got a puppy?
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, I got a little puppy.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
What kind of puppy?
Speaker 2 (50:10):
A little Boston Terrier?
Speaker 1 (50:11):
That's really nice?
Speaker 2 (50:12):
He's like, it is it?
Speaker 1 (50:16):
What's the what's your favorite part about having a kid.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
The innocent kind of wonderment, you know, that that thing
that the magic where you're just like you want to preserve.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yeah, that I've been. I don't like, I've been just
been thinking about like what would be like to have
a kid, And I'm like, does it does it feel
like you're like like living life over again in a way?
Is that Is that a feeling that you have?
Speaker 2 (50:48):
No? No, I know you. I think I know what
you're talking about, But it doesn't feel like that. It
feels more like the responsibility and the wait is heavier.
All like, now I can't kill myself. No, I can't
blow my brains out like I wanted to. You know,
(51:10):
now you have a reason.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
That's good. I think everyone needs reasons not to fucking
kill themselves.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Well, I don't mean it, but you know what I mean. Sure, Yeah,
it's just that you you kind of have to do
your best and you have to right, you have to
give it your goal.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Sometimes I've talked about this on this podcast before, but
like sometimes I'll be like recording my show, or like
I'll be doing work. I'll be doing some kind of
work and I'll just like start spazzing out and I'll
be like I just shut off the laptop and I
would get stoned and I would go outside and I
would be like, Okay, this is you know. I'll be
like I'm just gonna avoid my responsibility because who cares.
(51:50):
But it's like you, if you have a kid, you
can't just shut off the kid, you know, I'd I
guess that's the closest thing. Yeah, I guess that's the
closest You've.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Seen them kids iPads and restaurants just like, yeah, that's
the parents shutting them down.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Like you had, like Coco melan On or.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Sucking anything works jazz videos?
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Did you does your do you ever like do you
play your music for your kid ever?
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Or is that yeah?
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Just does he like it?
Speaker 2 (52:20):
He's ahead, He's he's ahead.
Speaker 6 (52:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
He listening to like bug out jazz music and stuff
like jazz like Crazy Sun Raw or not Coleman. He
likes all that stuff. And I'm like, yo, like you
even even I'd be like, yo, can we do something?
Speaker 5 (52:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
How many calls?
Speaker 1 (52:44):
How many calls are in there? We just go people
are just calling, people are going, let's see how long
have we been recording for? How are you doing? How
you we can we could take we could take one
or two more and we can get the lour in there. Yeah,
are you are you having Are you having fun?
Speaker 2 (53:02):
This is awesome?
Speaker 1 (53:03):
Okay? Cool?
Speaker 5 (53:04):
Good.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
I've always wanted to be a gecko. Good goodcause the
one animal I wanted to when I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Yeah, geckos were cool in the nineties, like the early nineties.
It was like, you know, I remember there was like
was that like a clothing brand.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Too, Like there is there is a clothing brand called
Gecko Hawaii or yeah, there was like buying gecko clothes something.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
But like, the the gecko was was tight in the
nineties early nineties. I mean it's still tight. Look, you know,
what is it that?
Speaker 1 (53:34):
What is it that drew you to the I like
that because I like the stoic nature of the gecko. Gecko,
the beautiful creatures.
Speaker 2 (53:41):
Yeah, and they're like they got the cool hands and
I love I think I preferred the chameleon more sure,
but you know, geckos were next in line.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Well, let's see here, let's see we got a phone
call from someone who I don't know who they are yet,
but we're gonna find out who they are right now. Hello, Hey,
what's up man? What's your name?
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (54:08):
This is Nathan Nathan Nick? Nick? Nathan? Oh did you
did you try to give? Like did you get did
you give your real name? And then you get you?
We're like, let me braacktrack that can give it a
fake name.
Speaker 4 (54:22):
That's yeah, that's definitely what I was thinking.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Yeah, I don't think we're get Like if you just
a guy named Nathan, I don't think anyone we're gonna
find you.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
You know, he knows he's got that voice, buttery voice
will recognize he does.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Well, what do you Okay? Well, what what should we do?
Should we do Nick or Nathan?
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (54:45):
Let's do Nick for sure?
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Beautiful?
Speaker 1 (54:52):
What's up? Nick?
Speaker 2 (54:53):
How you doing?
Speaker 3 (54:53):
Man?
Speaker 1 (54:53):
What'd you want to talk about today?
Speaker 4 (54:56):
Yo?
Speaker 3 (54:58):
Yeah? So I I text you all pain ball?
Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Man, you said, Hey, Gecko and fly Low, I'm thinking
about joining a paintball team. But I have a lot
of reservations. What are the reservations?
Speaker 4 (55:12):
Have you ever played paintball?
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Yeah? I have?
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yeah, me too, a long time ago. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
It's I mean, it's a fun sport. It's a really
good exercise. That's why I'm into it. But I don't
know it's just like very intense. The people that played
are very intense, or they.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Can be uh, you know, it can't be though.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
I was.
Speaker 2 (55:36):
I was my first time doing that. I was really
put off by the people who were playing actually more
than anything. I was like the other team, We're just like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
What was it?
Speaker 4 (55:49):
Yeah? For sure. I started playing in the woods, like
in the middle of nowhere, and you know, I just
had like the Tipman ninety eight, the classic, you know,
twenty dollars gun that I got from a friend and
playing against people with like a thousand dollars guns, which
is no competition, so it's really not very fun. But
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still like you know, being out in the woods, I
just love it. Like the adrenaline rush is really you know, addictive, honestly,
and yeah, just like something to do with your friends
on the weekend. It's just like a super fun thing.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
You say, you sound like you're convincing yourself that you
want to do it. You sound like you have way
more what's the opposite of a reservation consideration?
Speaker 2 (56:32):
So you have good?
Speaker 1 (56:34):
That's good. You sound like you have way more considerations
than reservations. So I mean go ahead.
Speaker 4 (56:43):
Yeah you know, this was like, yeah, I'm an adult. Now,
I'm you know, in my thirties, so I have more
money to spend on it, and I moved to a
Barrea where there's actually like the air ball fields, like
competitive like leagues and things like that. But uh yeah,
(57:04):
I just don't know anyone in the leagues and been
trying to get into it. But uh yeah, the reservations
I'm having of it, well, I you know, honestly.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
You know, you only live once. Do that ship. Just
do that ship, Like, don't you think about just do it?
You can. You can quit whenever you want. No one
will make you do it forever. Just quit. If you
don't like it, try it live a little bit.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
You could go to war.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
Yeah, you could actually go to war or play Call
of Duty, like all three of those things can probably
do that for you.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
You could. I got what if you what if you
just what if you just paint the way you get
to if? I don't know if your favorite part about
paintball is the paint, It's like, that's kind of that's awesome.
(58:09):
It's the X one. Don't you do pilates and paint
bowls of fruit? And then you can you accomplish all
the same things.
Speaker 4 (58:17):
Yeah, it's like a run sprints with a Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:24):
I'm excused. Well, I'm so excited for you.
Speaker 2 (58:28):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
I really amy. Maybe I'll go. You know what You've
ins what's your name again?
Speaker 2 (58:34):
Nick? Nick?
Speaker 1 (58:36):
Nick? You've inspired me. I want to, Uh, I want
to I want to do something new. Maybe I'll play
paint plates. You know, I throw out du pilates is
just because I wanted. I want to do it.
Speaker 2 (58:48):
Do it, give it a shot. It absolutely do it.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
I feel like your therapy get I feel like, in
an indirect way, you therapy geckoed meet today Nick, mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (58:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (58:59):
I am also gonna try some pilates.
Speaker 6 (59:02):
And the World Cup, the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (59:05):
Of Paintballs this weekend. So if anyone wants to uh
watch something on YouTube, it's a little bit, a little
bit weird.
Speaker 2 (59:13):
Is it indoor paintball?
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Take it out?
Speaker 2 (59:16):
What's that? Is it indoor paintball?
Speaker 4 (59:19):
Uh No, it's it's outside in Florida.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
Oof, outside in Florida. That's it. Scary as a motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
Yeah, running around outside in Florida with a fake gun.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
Yeah, take a bad idea again. Worried about the people playing,
you know, worried about the other team.
Speaker 1 (59:41):
Nick, is there anything else you want to say to
the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4 (59:45):
I appreciate Joe, have a good night, thanks man, much loved.
Speaker 1 (59:48):
Thanks Man, have a good night. Well, flying Lotus. What
do you what do you do you feel like? Uh?
Do you feel like you you learned anything from in
the past? How or do you have any takeaways? Do
you have any thoughts?
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Nope? I think the people who are listening though, or
the people called in it. It sounds like there's a
consistency where people need to just like, you know, love
themselves and yeah, man, learn to as well forgive themselves
and to forgive the people around them. That was the
(01:00:24):
thing that I've kind of taken from ends that. Man,
we're just you know, what do you expect? We're all
just grown babies.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
That's really nice. It's really nice. We're all just grown.
I'm trying to connect it back to ET somehow.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Mm hmm. I feel like I'm sure it's there. I'm
sure someone in the chat will probably figure it out.
Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Well, yeah, man, thanks for thanks for coming on the show.
Is there do you want to do you want to
do any plugs? Don't plug anything?
Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Yeah, you guys could check out my new EP that
came out called spirit Box. It's tight. And then there
is a movie I made called Ash that's come out
next year.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Where is it coming through? Oh cool man?
Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Where like you did? Getting like a wide like I
can go to like my local am. Yeah yeah yeah,
what can you tell us about it at all?
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
There's a trailer out you can check out of the trailer.
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Okay, cool, yeah, cool cool? What's it called again?
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Ash? Ash?
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Very nice, well flying letters, thank you for joining me as.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
A thank you so much, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
It goes on the line taking your phone calls every
night ever, goes to his teaching you a loud line
is not really
Flying Lotus. Hello, What has been the most persistent thought
on your mind lately?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh, that's a good question. I think the most persistent
thought on my mind lately is is, Yeah, I guess
how to take care of my home.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
How have you been taking care of your home?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Not very well? I think the past couple of years
I kind of let some things go around the house,
and I'm paying for it a lot this year, literally
paying a lot for it. So yeah, I've just been
I've been thinking about how to improve my home a
lot lately. That's been really persistent in my mind.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
What thing about what aspect of your home are you
the most excited to improve?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Good question. The exciting thing to improve? Well, I have
a retaining wall that fell.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Are there any parts of your house you're afraid to
go near because you're like, I don't know what that
looks like. I'm in fear of that.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Absolutely. There's so many parts of my house where Yeah,
it's like kind of like a horror movie in there.
I think I think it is possibly haunted. It's a
house from the thirties. It looks like a horror like
a blumhouse house. It looks like some blumhouse shit where
I live for sure, but I love it. I moved
(01:24):
into a hant house on purpose. I'm like that kind
of person.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You moved into a hont house on purpose. So we
were talking before we started rolling, and you told me
that you've been listening to like, like UFO podcast podcasts. Yeah,
and is that that's kind of like up your alley.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, well for several reasons. Yeah. One, yeah, there's a
very specific reason. But uh, yeah, I've been really into
this stuff lately, ever since that, you know, David Grush
came forward, like.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
The guy who said that UFOs were real basically, yeah,
like Area fifty one or something that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Was lou Elizondo. Yeah that was recent. Yeah, that was
more recent. But I've been following it and just I
find itself fascinating that, you know, we're in a place
where you know, we're having we're having a UAP hearing
next week about this stuff. There's, like, you know, one
of the biggest hearings about it ever.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Do you want to meet aliens?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, you know, I don't know. I don't know if
I want. I mean, I want to see something. I
want to see something and know for sure, I definitely
believe there's something else going on. But is it all aliens.
I don't know about that. I think there's a lot
of this stuff is like secret technologies that are being
(02:49):
hidden from us, maybe for good reason.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I was trying to find like interviews of you and
like podcasts and stuff while I was setting everything up
that I could, I could listen to. And I listened
to one where you talked to about being like I
forgive me if I'd not remembering this correct, but you
were like visited by some like shadow Creek shadowing.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Oh wow, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, and that like jump start that jump started.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Like yeah, the paranormal for me.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
The paranormal did that. I think you said that jump
started something artistically for you.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Ah well, it just it was one of those things.
It just blew me away, man, And I was I was,
you know, I was a kid who maybe like fifteen
sixteen or something like that. I wasn't even smoking weed
or anything at the time, you know, So it was
like a real sober experience to have to happen to me.
Where I woke up and I I saw a shadow person,
(03:45):
like a silhouette type shadow person sitting in my chair.
The chair was facing the bed. Why would the chair
be facing the bed. I don't know. The thing saw
me see it? Oh shit, like God ran out the
room like no bullshit?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
What I so what do you?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
What?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Do you? What do you think that was?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I don't know. I think for so long I just
told myself it's just like residual dream stuff that you
bring into this world. But people have reported this for
so long and I don't know, and maybe there's something
to it. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Do you believe not? Like you, Everyone hopes that paranormal
that like outer world beings that will come to visit us,
are are going to be uh chill and have peaceful intentions.
But do you think that is the case or do
you think they will, as we have done to the
(04:46):
other creatures on our universe, fuck their ship up.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I wouldn't be surprised. But at the same time, if
you look at the track record right of their you know,
the the sightings that we've had here with the military,
they've all said kind of the opposite. It's like they've
diffused nukes, they've you know, shut down weapon systems and stuff.
It seems like they're demonstrating that they're like wait a minute, now,
(05:12):
y'all ain't got nothing in control. We can do this
and if we wanted to, we would, but it never
seems like a hostile thing. There was this they just
the Pentagon just reported about these drones that were flying
around an airport last year and we don't know what
kind of drone they were, Like, yo, we don't know
what these things are, but we didn't shoot them down
because they weren't hostile. So you know, maybe maybe they're
(05:38):
not out to do anything but show us, you know,
give us something to worship or something. Who knows, you know,
maybe they're they're the angels.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And when you're I don't know if you're actively doing
research on UFOs every day, but like when when you were,
we all get stuck in like internet rabbit holes, rabbit
hole when you're in a when you're in a rabbit
hole and you're reading about like UFOs and like the
beyond the are you are you reading it like ooh
that's exciting, that's interesting that, Oh that could be quick,
(06:09):
could be nice, or are you reading it like oh no, Like,
are do you do you asso see these with? Did
do you s see these rabbit holes with like anxious feelings?
Or like feelings of like excitement and wonder.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I find there was a moment there where I was like,
oh my god, why are they hiding all this stuff?
What is going on? But then after a while just
became more fascinating because you know, as far as we've
come and all this stuff, these moments have happened over
you know, the past eighty years. We've had these moments
where we thought we were going to get disclosure, we
(06:44):
got whistle blowers coming forward with information, and you know
we're still waiting for, you know, the the one photo
to ruin it all.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Right, right, right? What are some other rabbit holes you
find yourself into?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Good rabbit holes?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Mhm.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I've been playing a lot of a lot of video
games lately. Yeah, I've been going back playing a lot
of stuff. I think the new Silent Hill came out
and then it kind of took me back into more
of like some of the old PlayStation games, and then
I'm playing Fasmophobia on console. I've heard a lot of
(07:32):
people talking about that ghost hunting game, which is a
lot of fun, a lot of fun. And I play
Call of Duty with with the crew play that we play.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Call Duty seems like the most basic I'm playing around
eighth grade because I realized that, like you're like the
the the game itself is not what I'm after. I
just get like a hit in my brain when I yeah, like,
but it's not a positive Oh I am executing my
(08:02):
skill in this game.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Hit.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's like a fuck that piece of shit camper Nube.
Like the adrenaline of being like fucking angry is what
is the hit that I'm after? And I was like,
I don't like this, I'm gonna play.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Oh yeah, I don't know. I don't get into it
like that. No, no, no, no, it's it's still enjoyable.
It's still enjoyable. I'm not mad at nobody. Like if
I'm if I'm mad at anybody, it's myself because my aim.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Is trash or what does anything make you make me mad?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
In general?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Hell yeah? Off top though, I feel like I'm pretty
chill person. I try not to react instantly to stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
You seem like a pretty chill person. I've only been
I've probably been around you for less than thirty minutes,
but you have you got a chill vibe.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Chill yeah, chill Aura. Someone told me I was a
walk e Xanax before.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I was all right, I'll take you take that as
a point of pride.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Uh no, no, because I think a lot of times
I would rather just be confrontational with people. But you know,
sometimes there's.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Like you would rather be part confident, Like there's a
part of your brain where you're like, I want, I
feel as though.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I should speak up for myself right now, yourself, But then.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
You have another part of your brain that's kind of
like I don't want to be out fucking yeah. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I I think about that myself as well,
And I don't know. I think there's something to be
said about like the path of whatever path, what path
(09:58):
is going to create the most amount of peace in
my own brain? And sometimes I was gonna say some
I was gonna default the same that the answer is
usually to not say anything. But sometimes you say something
and then you work it out a little bit, and
then after that you're like, oh, I feel so much
more peaceful than if I never Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Absolutely, there's so many moments the you're like, ooh, was
that a foot in the mouth, and then someone hits
you and be like, yo, I'm so glad you said something.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, totally totally, totally, totally, Yeah, I don't know. It's
a are you into like stoic philosophy kind of no vibes?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
No, no, no, I'm not. I don't. I don't subscribe to that.
That's that's how style belief or anything. I'm just more like,
you know, I'm not trying to complicate my life anymore.
You don't at that point.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
It's just like, yo, what do you like? And this
is obviously something that evolves over time, like do you
like do you think you're does life feel complicated to you?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah? I think life gets it feels more complicated. The
weight of life is more complicated as we as we
get older, And you know, I think, uh I envy
people who can still, you know, take psychedelics all the
time and not worry, because I wish I could. I
feel like I'm at that point where I'm like, nah,
(11:30):
I'll just I'll just be dwelling on all the things
I need to do, all the things I gotta get done.
The retaining walls felled out, you know what I mean,
the house, Yeah, you know, like I just, uh I
envy that, But at the same time, I feel like
I've seen all that stuff already. Sure, I definitely talk
to them.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So that's the fact that what you said, I've seen
all that stuff before. I'm I ask out of genuine curiosity,
why do you feel as though things get more complicated
as you get older, because I would think it would
be the opposite, because when you're young, you don't you
have no frames of references.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I think you're probably right, But I'm not at that
older Okay, you know, I'm still in the older where
I'm like, still like I got the fire in me,
you know, but I'm not like, when I don't have
that anymore, then I'll probably be that older where I'm like.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, fuck it, fucking man, Well but you can. But yeah,
but there's some some people lose the fire when they're
like nineteen, and then some people.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, because they ruined their lives early on or something.
They did something and they just like they had that
moment where they're like, they probably ain't gonna get no
better than this.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
That's bummer.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Well what keeps?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
What's what are you fired up about?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm fired up about the possibilities. I'm fired up about
the tools and learning. I'm always learning stuff, and you know,
I'm always trying to learn stuff about music, and you know,
I get really excited about that stuff all time, filmmaking
things and writing ideas, and you know, I have all
these movies in my head I want to make, and
(13:06):
so it's that part is yeah, keeps me, keeps me
super motivated.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
What kind of movies you have to watch?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I like to watch all types of stuff I don't like.
I don't like war movies as much, but that's been
my opinions on that have changed a little bit. Yeah,
there's some like you know, the hard Oscar dramas that
come out around now till January Oscar season. I usually
(13:39):
don't like those movies or I just choose not to
watch them, just because when I do have the time
to watch a movie and I kind of want to
just be entertained and have a good time.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, you don't want to get into like a deep
Have you ever watched Schindler's List?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It's actually on my list to watch soon and depress myself.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Well, it's been on my list for about seven years now.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Since the nineties.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, because I just keep I'm like, because I'm never
gonna be in the mood.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
No, it's so funny you say that because I did
all I've been doing all the Spielbergs stuff the past
couple of months, and that's like hanging over like, hey,
I'm waiting for you, you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Well, if you're doing if you were like if you are,
like I am making it a thing to sit down
and watch all the spiel and you come across it,
then you're like, yeah, there.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You know, I just watched ET for the first time, dude,
But like that, honestly was probably the most hardcore movie
I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
What what?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
What?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
What was it? What was it that made it?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Man? It was hard? Man. That was a hard movie
just in terms. It was like my first time watching
it ever, never seen it, but it was it was
so beautiful and and so sweet that it was hardcore,
I think because it was just so hard hardcore, optimistic
about the future, about adults, and it was obviously like
(15:07):
just so emotional, you know, I was. I was profoundly
moved by that movie. I was like crying for like
a half hour watching.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I'm excited to see What's What's what ultimately made you
cry more Between Et and Chandler's List.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It'll be ET for sure, because there was as soon
as I started watching, I was like, oh my god,
I feel like I'm ten washing yeah, you know, and
it's like it's still that thing was still effective. Whatever
he did, the magic, it's it was, it's still there.
And uh and I was just it was so cool
to have not seen it this whole time and then
finally see it. It felt like it was like it
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was waiting for But.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I like that though, that shows that there's something like
more moving about optimism than there is about uh depressing ship.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah. Oh yeah. For me, it's because it's so that's
the movie. That's the fiction, is the the optimism and
the hopeful thing where it's just like, oh man, if
only we could, you know, if only we could.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Just I haven't seen E T And you know what,
what what was it that you think made it optimistic?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
H I think that for one, you know, the aliens
were like, you know, just here to like look at
plants and stuff. They were just like biologists, you know,
they're just studying stuff. And and you know, the the humans,
the bad guys, they're like kind of the bad guys
that got the bad guy music. Whenever you see the
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the adults and stuff. But even the adults, we're trying
to help et. They were, oh, they weren't trying to
kill him.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Well, I thought that the whole I thought that there
like the police guy, right, it's like you're trying to
kill you think they're trying to hem. They're all trying
to help that guy who was like they fly over him.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
They need they actually e t or the human. The
adults pretty much they try to save him as he
was dying, and they you know, they hit the defibrillator
on him. It looked as a kid the kids are like,
oh my god, you're killing him, but they're actually doing
their best to keep him alive. And uh, And I
think like the main the main bad guy he says
(17:25):
to the kid, he was like, he was like, you
remind me of when I was you Like, I've been
waiting for this moment since I was ten years old.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
That's really sweet.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah. And I was just like, and this is the
this is the guy who's got the bad guy. I mean,
I just thought that was like a really interesting choice
to make. And it was just still like you could
have made the bad guy be like no, you're stupid.
We're gonna lock you in a room, and you know
you're no one will believe you and all this stuff.
They could have done that and it would have still worked,
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but like they chose to make the the parents and
the adults still well optimistic and hopeful. And I think
this is really hardcore.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Weird.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, that's that's nice. That a movie where it's like
we're all going to eventually give in to our humanity
and that that's the destination, and not like we're all
going to kill each other.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It'd be nice, wouldn't it.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
It will be nice. It will be nice. You want
to take a phone call, let's do it. Hey, what's
up man?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Hey? I didn't think i'd actually i'd actually get through.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
To you now that you're here. What's up? Dog? What's
your name?
Speaker 6 (18:47):
My name is Isaac, Isaac?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
What's up, Isaac? We want to talk about today? What's
going on?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Wow?
Speaker 6 (18:57):
I'm twenty four and I'm living with my parents for
the first time since I was fourteen, and it is
just what I remember. But I don't have a way
of leaving unless I want to go be homeless again.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Wait, why why did you leave the house for the
first time when you were fourteen?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
My parents threw me out?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Really, where'd you go.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
It was Kansas City's where we were at, and I
was homeless around there, kind of just out on the
street for five years until twenty nineteen when I moved
to Colorado with my.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Brother and then brought what brought you back back in? Like,
did you have like a what's the opposite of a
falling out? Did you have a coming in with your parents?
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Not really, so we didn't. We didn't talk for a
really long time. And it was about twenty nineteen. End
of twenty nineteen, I was not on good terms with
my brother, and uh we were. We were going our
separate ways, and I started talking to my parents again
(20:13):
and they they drove up and picked me up and
dropped me off in Montana. They were on their way
to Washington for some military think and uh, that was
like the first time that I had seen them. But
it was only for the car, right, you know, So
it wasn't It wasn't a whole lot of talking. I
told them how much I appreciated it, and I gave
them gas money.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
But wait, what did you what did your parents did?
What happened with your parents? Like? What did you why?
Why do you have beef with them? Why they have
beef with you. Why did they and why they kick
you out? What did you do?
Speaker 6 (20:46):
There are kind of a lot of reasons, but the
biggest kicker was that I had started I was a
dumb high school kid. I'd started smoking weed. And since
they both worked for the government, that's like, will lose
their job, We'll all lose everything if they over some weed.
If no one finds out ye over some weed.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Oh man, that's some bullshit.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Well they tried to handle it. Well, first thing my
mom did, just kicks me out of height in the woods.
I said they didn't want it in the house, and
I was a shithead, and I was a shithead and
not not listening.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Why does that? Why does this phone call feel like
it does weirdly mirror the plot of E T where
it's like we have a secret we must keep from right.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, it sounds like you just you're just trying your best, man,
like you you know, trying to you know, you're just
trying to smoke weed and and do your thing and
don't let that ship get to you so hard, man.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
You know, Well, I mean we've got a we've got
a better deal now, just not within twenty five feet
of the house, and I'm better about keeping it outside
the tent set up in the in the backyard, out
by the woods.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You have a you have a fucking hot box tent
set up at the back of the woods.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Damn right, I do.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
What do your parents do in the military.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
My mom's a medic and my stepdad's infantry.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
And you didn't want to do any do any of that,
did you?
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I tried. I grew up doing military stuff, and I
went to a bunch of military schools, and when I
was in high school, I started doing r OTC before
they threw me out and I rold me from high school.
But when I tried to when I turned eighteen and
I tried to apply, apparently I have a scoliosis and
(22:34):
a bad shoulder, and they wouldn't let me come in
for either of those things. That's rotato cuff. Well, yeah,
I have a bad rotator cuff on my right arm,
and there's certain.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Things I couldn't do with that. Huh. With that rotator
cuff it made you.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Couldn't do for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
So what do you do now?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Well?
Speaker 6 (23:01):
I was maintenance at at a string of hotels. I
did a security for a while, but I'm I'm kind
of between. I started a new one on on Monday,
so so I'm excited. But I'll just be slaying pizzas.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
That's good, slinging pizzas.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
And yeah, make some money, man, make some money. Don't
don't give up on yourself though, you know, like this
is just a moment in time. You know, you're still
really young, twenty four. That ain't too crazy. Tho you
got you got time.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Well, that's good to hear a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I know people, I know people in their forties. You know,
I don't know what to do anymore, you know, like
don't worry.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Like it's like everybody everyone feels that way sometimes.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Absolutely absolutely you got this.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It is what we were kind of just talking about,
like like like trying to and I feel the same way.
I I yeah, I have a I was looking at
my I'm trying to like track my brain over time.
So I was like looking at journal entries from years ago,
and I was like, I'm twenty four and I wrote
like when I was twenty four, I was like, I'm
twenty four and I like feel dead. But now I'm
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twenty six and I'm still I'm still optimistic. You know,
why not? Why not be optomis? Why not be optimistic?
You're gonna fucking give you give yourself a shot of
some fucking kind, you know, because I mean you're not
You're gonna be alive with modern medicine for the next
one hundred and forty years.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
So right, seriously, I don't know that'll be a lot.
I'll find it back at least.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
That'd be a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
But just before we go, uh, what did you say?
Your name was?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Isaac?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Isaac?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Isaac. That's a good name.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
That's a good name. That's a very strong name. There's
a lot of I mean it sincerely. I mean this sincerely.
I think there's a lot of nobility in slinging pieces
because you know, there's a lot of stoned fourteen year
olds out there who you might see yourself in, who
have stolen their mom's credit card to buy a pizza,
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and you're helping them those folks.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, and obviously you're you know, you're trying to be
in the military, you know you Yeah, probably have really
strong values. You'll just just keep doing you work hard.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Isaac, Is there anything else you want to say to
the people of the computer or to God before we go.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Keep your head up. Even when things get get really dark,
the sound always comes back up.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Take care, I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Thanks for talking with me. Have a good day.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That was nice. Yeah, let's start off strong.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah. Yeah, well you were asking me. We were also
talking and you were like, do people mainly call in
to like, uh troll you and stuff? And it happens sometimes,
But I think, uh, I think both. I'm very like.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I think mostly people just start, like want to talk
about life because it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, as as they should. I'm glad people don't squander
this moment.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
You should we do another one.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
From Yoda?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
What's up? Yoda?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Not much? What's up with you?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Chilling? Were chilling vibe? Yeah you guys, Yeah, we're both out.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Yeah, yeah, little. It's been crazy though since the since
yesterday though, it's been pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Has been pretty crazy?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Crazy in your life? Or is just crazy in the world?
Speaker 5 (27:04):
I think in my life and in the world. So
it's like a synergetic thing.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
What happened, what happened to you? We all know what's
going on in the world.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, yeah, what's what's going on with you?
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I wouldn't say it's like super crazy. But so I'm
doing a PhD and it's just a lot going on,
and then plus the election, so now I'm like worried
about I guess how that might affect I guess job
opportunities and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
But yeah, what's your industry.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
I'm in ecology and evolutionary prology, so like nature stuff. Yeah,
you know the parties don't well the Red Party doesn't
give a fuck about that.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
So yeah, well then you know how much how much
longer are you in school?
Speaker 5 (27:56):
I think what four more years?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
I just started?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
All right, great, so by the time you're out of school,
we have a new president and most likely be Democrat
and reverse all the ship that's about to happen, right.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
So you'll be there's not optimism, don't trip.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah yeah, where are you saying? Where do you live?
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Oh, I'm just moved to just like Colorado.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
You'll be fine to just all rocks on fire, You'll
be fine over there.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That's cool. Well, at least here's what I'll say this,
because there's a lot of stuff with like, uh, you know,
the election where I'm where, I'm like, well, fuck, what
can I like at least you're at least you're in
a position where you are can like actually do something
about the ship that you care about, you know, Like
that's I think there's a lot to be sometimes anxiety
(28:57):
is just like you can you can knnot like curate,
but you can work on it by just the fact
that you're doing something, like, you know, take the pollution
out of one stream. I don't know, I don't know
if that made any sense, but you know, whatever you
can do.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Yeah, do the best we can. That's like, I guess
what all.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Of us are trying to do at the end of
the day. I think you know, no matter who you
voted for, you know, we're all people looking at each
other trying to make sense of this moment in reality
and time. So just continue to have passion for your
fellow human being. We're all trying. Some of us aren't
trying hard, but we're all trying. Don't worry, We'll be
(29:45):
all right.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, we're collectively trying. When you throw us all together
and yeah, yeah, yeah, here's the thing is, uh, I
don't do this as a bit.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
I'm a green guy.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You're green. Oh yeah, we're we're two point nine green.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Guys, exactly, it's three.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Is there anything else? Is there anything else you want
to say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Uh yeah, flying logs. I love your stuff, guys, I
love your stuff. This is my first time getting on
after like thousands of calls. And yeah, I'm also an artist,
so check my stuff on Instagram at goth hobby. What
is it with three H goth hobby? So g oh yeah,
goth g o t h h h o bb I
(30:38):
T I do like clothes and stuff like that. So
if you want to it with two hs, you guys
got with three.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
H triple H triple all right, cool man, I'll check
it out.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Why not, I'll check it out, that's for sure. No,
it was nice talking to you guys.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, take care of man, Take care brother, right, busy.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I need to do.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
People like send you beats often and they're like, what
do you think of my beats?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Every day?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
How do you ever look at them?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I probably shouldn't say yeah, right, because if I do,
then I'll get in trouble.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
But you shouldn't say yes, or shouldn't say I.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Shouldn't say yes right because then they oh shit, I
do Occasionally I'm occasionally I'm really curious and I like
to just know what's going on. So yeah, I do listen,
and it's always the ones who don't have a following
that are just crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, yeah interesting. I was also gonna, I'm gonna, I'm
gonna have a little uh fanboy moment here. My favorite
work of yours is the Awkward TV show show.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
That was a fun moment in time, man.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Honestly, like, we were sitting here and I was looking
at the chat while it was playing, and it was
like and someone in the chat was like, yo, man,
my favorite work of yours is the Aqua TV show
show theme song. And then I fucking remembered. I was like, yo,
he did the TV show show theme song. I've like
watched that on YouTube on a repeat.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Like, yeah, it's funny because I forget sometime I'm sure,
I'm sure, you know, and then sometimes it'll come on,
you know, adult Swim or something like that, and then
the intro come out, Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Do you are you an Aquatan fan?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, big fan, big fan of
Dave Willis, the writer he did that show Your Pretty
Faces Going to Hell.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, I was a fun fact. I was an intern
on that show seven years ago. How was Atlanta? It
was very it was difficult.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It seems like a tough, tough gig.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Well here's the Here's like, this is like a full
circle moment for me. Is when I worked on the show,
one of my jobs was, like everyone, all the people,
the cast is like heavally caked in red. So the
cast is heavily painted in red. And like, one of
my jobs was they had the showers on set, and
(33:04):
one of my jobs was to like scrub red paint
off of showers. And now I'm fucking up showers with
my green paint. And I'm like, you know, I knew
we'd make it one day.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
That's right, Yeah, let it let it rain green bro
hm hmm.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Do you still watch it? He still watch it?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Alsewie very often, not as much. There's not too much
stuff on there that I can get into. But I'm
always watching some of the older classics. I want to
redo all the Metal Acalypse episodes.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Redo that cool cool, that'd be sick. Are you smiling? Friends?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
You know I tried to get into that. I love
that guy, Michael Cusack. I love him. I've been trying
to get in that show. I haven't really got the
episode that one that pulls me in, but I know
everyone loves that one. That's like the big show.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, it's definitely like they're the kind of anchor show. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I wasn't really added about the Rick and Morty anime though.
That really me. That really disturbed me.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Why did it disturb you?
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I didn't like the animation, Yeah, I feel yeah, just
like the I think it just kind of lost the
comedy and in some of the just the beats got
lost because the animation is weird.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
It just it just Uh, do you have any thoughts
or desires to do any more like animation stuff in
the future.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I love animation. I do animation at home and stuff.
I use unreal engine and make stuff. Yeah, it's a
lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. But I
have to work on music right now. But after a
couple more months, I can reward myself with some silly
meat projects.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I love. That makes me so happy. You were like,
after I finished working, I'm going to reward myself with
more work. It's a good. It's a good. It's a
good sign.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I mean, I really do, I really love it. It's so
much fun.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
You want to take any phone call?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, I'm Greg.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Hey, what's up man? How you doing? What's your name?
My name is Tom, Tom Tom Thomas.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Well I just want to say, first of all, first
time caller, big time fan, I'm coming to your show
on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Oh cool. Oh you'll be at the show on Saturday.
Very nice?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Is it here?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
It's Hollywood Forever? Yeah, yeah, it's I was always funny
that like a bunch of people are dead outside and
have a good time.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah. I played there a couple of times. It's really nice.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
What's up with you? Thomas? Would you want to talk
about today?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Well, the biggest thing in my life right now is that,
uh I may be gettin shunned from my family and
everyone I know. Uh Dune.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
May be getting what shunned?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Shunned?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Why?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Why?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Well it's a long story, but pretty much, uh you know,
just uh all right, put this. I don't want to myself,
to be.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Honest, I don't know, I don't know. I'm a little
nervous on the edge of whatever. Whatever you want to share, man,
it's it's whatever, whatever, whatever, how much of this you
want to share is up to you.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Man. No, I want to know, yeah, you didn't call
it here for nothing show what's up?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
No, definitely, Now I was raised up Johah's witness I'm
sure I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
At a guy who was raised up Jehovah's witness right.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Now, Okay, but yeah that way. Yeah, but of course,
you know, it's something that you know, I don't believe
in anymore. And so I've kind of been doing my
thing for a couple of years now. But recently, you know,
(37:22):
I've been dating and you know, been seeing someone and
and you know, when you are gained something, you want
to have them over. And so, uh, it just came
down to that. Somehow my parents, you know, found out
(37:43):
that I was seeing someone and that you know, she
stayed the night and yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
By his family. Yeah, well that's fucking wild. Yeah, are
you fucking serious? Are you for real?
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Man?
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Laugh, you know, go on YouTube and and search up
ex Joe's witnesses and oh yeah, people have all different
crazy stories. You know, it's not comed I've heard.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I've heard, I've heard some things. Yeah, that's that's really rough.
And you know, there's a part of me that wants
to just say, you know, give them the time too.
To get past it and for everyone to get over it.
But you know, you never really know. You never really know,
but you can always hope. But you can't let that
stop you from your happiness and being who you are.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
No, definitely. I mean I've been on this journey for
a couple of years now and like you know, it's
it's been pretty rough. Like you know, when it first happened,
this is like fairly fresh within a month, you know,
like I kind of knew it was gonna happen sooner
or later. But it's just you know, just seeing the effects,
(39:04):
Like it affects my parents more than anything. But it's
like you can't really you can't really open up and
talk to them because for me, it's like, you know,
I just don't believe in in the face like if
you start, if you again, you know, if you do
your research or like you know, the whole history of it,
(39:27):
it's pretty pretty wild. And like you know that they
they use stunning as like a control tactic, but the
way they teach it, it's like a loving thing that
you know when when you shine your your child or
your parent whatever to help them see that, yeah, you see,
(39:47):
you're you're trying to help them see the error of
their way so that they come back. But in reality,
it's just a control tactic too, you know, get get
you to go back to, you know, being part of
the organization. But like you know, already told myself, like
you know, I don't believe I'm not gonna live a
lot anymore. But it's like you know, freedom isn't free. Yeah,
(40:10):
miss is Sally, one of the prices I have to pay.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
What's your name?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Man?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Sorry, I forget everyone's Thomas.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Tom.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
We did that. We said it four times Tom.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Man, I I mean this sincerely. I hope you really,
I really mean this. I think you are completely utterly
entitled to live a life where you can simultaneously believe
whatever you want and live your life however you want,
and have people in your life who care, care about
(40:49):
you and love you. Man. Yeah, I I I'm sorry
to hear you're struggling with these particular people, but I
hope that you remain optimistic that the people who will
love you and support you regardless of how you want
(41:11):
to live your life do exist, even even even if
it's just you for now, you know, even if just
your you accept yourself, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
I mean, don't get me wrong. Like I have family
that that's not even like you know, never been j
W and like, you know, one of my aunts, you know,
she texted me, She's like, hey, you know pretty much
invited me over for Thanksgiving, you know, coming up, and
you know, I haven't celebrated Thanksgiving and like I don't
know over eighteen years since you know, both my family
(41:48):
like converted over there, right, But it's like, you know,
that's not my family. You know, they don't care, like
they don't judge, and so I know that it's I
know there's good people out there, but it's just, you know,
I really came to like I'm already okay with like,
(42:09):
you know, not having the same friendships with the people
I used to go to church with and you know,
those relationships. But when it's your parents, you know, it's
the people that raised you, Like you know, they're doing
it because they feel like they're they're trying to be
loyal to God. And I mean, who am I to
(42:30):
tell them, you know, to not be loyal to God.
That's what they honestly believe, you know.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I think you just need to give them time. If
you ask me, I think you just everyone needs a
little bit of time to heal from whatever this moment is.
I think that you know, I've heard similar stories and
it may have taken years for these things to heal,
but they do in time. And I would just hope
(42:57):
that you know, you remember the love your families love
and know that at the end of the day, they
really do love you. They just don't. They don't know
any better. They're just grown babies, you know. So yeah,
just just have faith at the time it'll it'll you'll
be able to pick up and they'll understand who you
are and and love that.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
I mean, I just I just have to be okay
with it because you know, it is what it is.
I can't change the past, that's right.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
And do you want to?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Do you? Do you want to change the paths? Like?
Do you You don't want to change bads? You want
to continue doing what you're doing. So let them learn
to love you and accept you.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, have you have you gotten to do any drugs
since you since you left? Have you tried cocaine? Have
you strippers?
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Like?
Speaker 1 (43:47):
What have you got? Have you been? Have you like
let it ride at all?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Right? Full extreme?
Speaker 3 (43:53):
You know that's the thing. It's like, that's like the
thing with you know x J w Is. You know
they feel like, oh, you know, now that I'm not
in anymore, I have to live like everyone else and
like party hard. But no, like I've you know, I've
gone out clubbing and partying and that's been fun. And
(44:13):
I tried, you know, smoking weed a couple of times
with my with my date, but you know, I didn't
get high either time. So like maybe I'm just being able.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
To who's the chick, Who's who's who's the date. She
sounds like a good influence. She's like, I'm trying to
fuck in your house. I'm trying to fuck you in
your house, and you're gonna smoke this weed too. She
sounds like a good influence. I like her.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
No, she's pretty cool. I won't say her name because
I don't think, you know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Know if she's.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Well, how'd you guys meet?
Speaker 5 (44:49):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Hinge?
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Very nice. She also come from like a like a
like a religious background or anything like that, or she's gonna.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
We grew up Catholic, You grew up Catholic. But you
know she had you know, she had her own like,
you know, seeing stuff in her childhood that kind of
turned her off from religion. So like you know, she
you know, she's been very like compassionate, you know with
my situation.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
And yeah, yeah, it sounds like you need to hang
on to that one right there.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
And you let your parents coming with me to your
show on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Oh cool, all right, I'm excited to meet you guy.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
I try to try to. I try to meet everyone
after the show. So if you can be like I'm
the guy who talked about being an next Jehovah's witness
and we can be like holy Ship we talked on
the phone like two days ago. Well ship, man, I'm
looking forward to uh to see Yeah, thanks for thank
(45:52):
thanks for thanks for calling into the show and being
fucking genuine about your life.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, yeah, I mean difficult. I hope I hope, like
I said that, whatever direction you choose to go with
your life, you know, I hope you're optimistic that you'll
you'll find people to be there with you.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Yeah. I have, you know, I've connected with people recently,
you know, meet new people and you know already have
like you know, someone who's offering to you know, let
me see at their place. If if you know I
have to move out because I mean, I don't live
with my parents, but I do rent for my dad.
So like it depends, you know, how you define if
(46:34):
I live on my own or not. But anyway, yeah,
like I'm trying to, you know, expand spread my wings.
And you know, I'm back in therapy, so I'm talking
to my therapist about it and you know, just trying
to you know, just be prepared for what may come.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
That's great, that's the best you can do. You're doing in.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
The work, Tomas. Is there anything that's gonna say to
the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (47:06):
Yeah, I mean, just a big fan of the stream
or the podcast, been listening since twenty twenty one, called
over a hundred times. Don't give up, just keep calling,
And yeah, I mean your your show is pretty inserting.
I listened to all the time when I'm at work.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Thanks man, I appreciate that. I'm uh, I'll see you.
I'll see you on Saturday. And I think I think
it'll be a good show. I think it'll be fun.
We'll uh we will dance on the graves of all
the dead people afterwards.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
All right, sounds good.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Thanks for doing all right?
Speaker 1 (47:41):
See you later, see you later. All right, thanks forever, bye,
Thanks them. How you doing.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Good, I'm good. Good.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Do you. Were you religious growing up?
Speaker 3 (47:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I wasn't religious, but you know there there's religion practiced,
but everyone was cool and you know, just do your
own thing. Yeah, sure, I'll show you this stuff and
here yeah yeah, uh yeah yeah. No.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
I I felt like I was like when he said
I'm about to be shunned by everybody, I was like,
I was, like, I was. I thought he was gonna
like say something worse, worse, but then I was like, oh,
I feel so I felt uh, I felt for him.
That's like so fucking uh tough when like you grow
like you grow up and like you're kind of taught
(48:38):
to believe a certain thing or like live a certain way,
and then when you try to form some independence for yourself,
it's like the people around you, your parents, your friends,
your family should celebrate you wanting to fucking you know,
grow and improve and be your own human being. And
it's a it's a fucking bummer when they don't.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, it's their journey though, to to kind of figure
that out for themselves. But it's I always think about
that if I would have had parents or upbringing where
they weren't supportive of me being an artist or being
creative and stuff, and I'm sure that it would have
been so different because I needed that support. I think.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Do you have a good relationship with your parents?
Speaker 2 (49:20):
No, they're they're dead.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Oh yeah, do you have a good relationship with the
with their parents?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Yes? Yes, considering you know, like when of course everyone's
going to complain a little bit, but yeah, I was.
I'm very lucky to have had some some really good influences.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Do you do you have kids?
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:40):
How many kids you have?
Speaker 2 (49:41):
I have one?
Speaker 1 (49:42):
What's how old is your kid?
Speaker 2 (49:44):
It's four? What is that?
Speaker 1 (49:45):
What's that like?
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
It's an asshole?
Speaker 1 (49:54):
I mean I'm sure. Yeah, Well, when you're four years old,
you don't care about you know, you're you're kind of
you're operating on a of course you're gonna be an asshole.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah, yeah you should as you do. I just got
a puppy too.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
You got a puppy?
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, I got a little puppy.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
What kind of puppy?
Speaker 2 (50:10):
A little Boston Terrier?
Speaker 1 (50:11):
That's really nice?
Speaker 2 (50:12):
He's like, it is it?
Speaker 1 (50:16):
What's the what's your favorite part about having a kid.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
The innocent kind of wonderment, you know, that that thing
that the magic where you're just like you want to preserve.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yeah, that I've been. I don't like, I've been just
been thinking about like what would be like to have
a kid, And I'm like, does it does it feel
like you're like like living life over again in a way?
Is that Is that a feeling that you have?
Speaker 2 (50:48):
No? No, I know you. I think I know what
you're talking about, But it doesn't feel like that. It
feels more like the responsibility and the wait is heavier.
All like, now I can't kill myself. No, I can't
blow my brains out like I wanted to. You know,
(51:10):
now you have a reason.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
That's good. I think everyone needs reasons not to fucking
kill themselves.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Well, I don't mean it, but you know what I mean. Sure, Yeah,
it's just that you you kind of have to do
your best and you have to right, you have to
give it your goal.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Sometimes I've talked about this on this podcast before, but
like sometimes I'll be like recording my show, or like
I'll be doing work. I'll be doing some kind of
work and I'll just like start spazzing out and I'll
be like I just shut off the laptop and I
would get stoned and I would go outside and I
would be like, Okay, this is you know. I'll be
like I'm just gonna avoid my responsibility because who cares.
(51:50):
But it's like you, if you have a kid, you
can't just shut off the kid, you know, I'd I
guess that's the closest thing. Yeah, I guess that's the
closest You've.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Seen them kids iPads and restaurants just like, yeah, that's
the parents shutting them down.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Like you had, like Coco melan On or.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Sucking anything works jazz videos?
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Did you does your do you ever like do you
play your music for your kid ever?
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Or is that yeah?
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Just does he like it?
Speaker 2 (52:20):
He's ahead, He's he's ahead.
Speaker 6 (52:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
He listening to like bug out jazz music and stuff
like jazz like Crazy Sun Raw or not Coleman. He
likes all that stuff. And I'm like, yo, like you
even even I'd be like, yo, can we do something?
Speaker 5 (52:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
How many calls?
Speaker 1 (52:44):
How many calls are in there? We just go people
are just calling, people are going, let's see how long
have we been recording for? How are you doing? How
you we can we could take we could take one
or two more and we can get the lour in there. Yeah,
are you are you having Are you having fun?
Speaker 2 (53:02):
This is awesome?
Speaker 1 (53:03):
Okay? Cool?
Speaker 5 (53:04):
Good.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
I've always wanted to be a gecko. Good goodcause the
one animal I wanted to when I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Yeah, geckos were cool in the nineties, like the early nineties.
It was like, you know, I remember there was like
was that like a clothing brand.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Too, Like there is there is a clothing brand called
Gecko Hawaii or yeah, there was like buying gecko clothes something.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
But like, the the gecko was was tight in the
nineties early nineties. I mean it's still tight. Look, you know,
what is it that?
Speaker 1 (53:34):
What is it that drew you to the I like
that because I like the stoic nature of the gecko. Gecko,
the beautiful creatures.
Speaker 2 (53:41):
Yeah, and they're like they got the cool hands and
I love I think I preferred the chameleon more sure,
but you know, geckos were next in line.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Well, let's see here, let's see we got a phone
call from someone who I don't know who they are yet,
but we're gonna find out who they are right now. Hello, Hey,
what's up man? What's your name?
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (54:08):
This is Nathan Nathan Nick? Nick? Nathan? Oh did you
did you try to give? Like did you get did
you give your real name? And then you get you?
We're like, let me braacktrack that can give it a
fake name.
Speaker 4 (54:22):
That's yeah, that's definitely what I was thinking.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Yeah, I don't think we're get Like if you just
a guy named Nathan, I don't think anyone we're gonna
find you.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
You know, he knows he's got that voice, buttery voice
will recognize he does.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Well, what do you Okay? Well, what what should we do?
Should we do Nick or Nathan?
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (54:45):
Let's do Nick for sure?
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Beautiful?
Speaker 1 (54:52):
What's up? Nick?
Speaker 2 (54:53):
How you doing?
Speaker 3 (54:53):
Man?
Speaker 1 (54:53):
What'd you want to talk about today?
Speaker 4 (54:56):
Yo?
Speaker 3 (54:58):
Yeah? So I I text you all pain ball?
Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Man, you said, Hey, Gecko and fly Low, I'm thinking
about joining a paintball team. But I have a lot
of reservations. What are the reservations?
Speaker 4 (55:12):
Have you ever played paintball?
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Yeah? I have?
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yeah, me too, a long time ago. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
It's I mean, it's a fun sport. It's a really
good exercise. That's why I'm into it. But I don't
know it's just like very intense. The people that played
are very intense, or they.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Can be uh, you know, it can't be though.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
I was.
Speaker 2 (55:36):
I was my first time doing that. I was really
put off by the people who were playing actually more
than anything. I was like the other team, We're just like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
What was it?
Speaker 4 (55:49):
Yeah? For sure. I started playing in the woods, like
in the middle of nowhere, and you know, I just
had like the Tipman ninety eight, the classic, you know,
twenty dollars gun that I got from a friend and
playing against people with like a thousand dollars guns, which
is no competition, so it's really not very fun. But
(56:09):
still like you know, being out in the woods, I
just love it. Like the adrenaline rush is really you know, addictive, honestly,
and yeah, just like something to do with your friends
on the weekend. It's just like a super fun thing.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
You say, you sound like you're convincing yourself that you
want to do it. You sound like you have way
more what's the opposite of a reservation consideration?
Speaker 2 (56:32):
So you have good?
Speaker 1 (56:34):
That's good. You sound like you have way more considerations
than reservations. So I mean go ahead.
Speaker 4 (56:43):
Yeah you know, this was like, yeah, I'm an adult. Now,
I'm you know, in my thirties, so I have more
money to spend on it, and I moved to a
Barrea where there's actually like the air ball fields, like
competitive like leagues and things like that. But uh yeah,
(57:04):
I just don't know anyone in the leagues and been
trying to get into it. But uh yeah, the reservations
I'm having of it, well, I you know, honestly.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
You know, you only live once. Do that ship. Just
do that ship, Like, don't you think about just do it?
You can. You can quit whenever you want. No one
will make you do it forever. Just quit. If you
don't like it, try it live a little bit.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
You could go to war.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
Yeah, you could actually go to war or play Call
of Duty, like all three of those things can probably
do that for you.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
You could. I got what if you what if you
just what if you just paint the way you get
to if? I don't know if your favorite part about
paintball is the paint, It's like, that's kind of that's awesome.
(58:09):
It's the X one. Don't you do pilates and paint
bowls of fruit? And then you can you accomplish all
the same things.
Speaker 4 (58:17):
Yeah, it's like a run sprints with a Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:24):
I'm excused. Well, I'm so excited for you.
Speaker 2 (58:28):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
I really amy. Maybe I'll go. You know what You've
ins what's your name again?
Speaker 2 (58:34):
Nick? Nick?
Speaker 1 (58:36):
Nick? You've inspired me. I want to, Uh, I want
to I want to do something new. Maybe I'll play
paint plates. You know, I throw out du pilates is
just because I wanted. I want to do it.
Speaker 2 (58:48):
Do it, give it a shot. It absolutely do it.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
I feel like your therapy get I feel like, in
an indirect way, you therapy geckoed meet today Nick, mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (58:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (58:59):
I am also gonna try some pilates.
Speaker 6 (59:02):
And the World Cup, the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (59:05):
Of Paintballs this weekend. So if anyone wants to uh
watch something on YouTube, it's a little bit, a little
bit weird.
Speaker 2 (59:13):
Is it indoor paintball?
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Take it out?
Speaker 2 (59:16):
What's that? Is it indoor paintball?
Speaker 4 (59:19):
Uh No, it's it's outside in Florida.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
Oof, outside in Florida. That's it. Scary as a motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
Yeah, running around outside in Florida with a fake gun.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
Yeah, take a bad idea again. Worried about the people playing,
you know, worried about the other team.
Speaker 1 (59:41):
Nick, is there anything else you want to say to
the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4 (59:45):
I appreciate Joe, have a good night, thanks man, much loved.
Speaker 1 (59:48):
Thanks Man, have a good night. Well, flying Lotus. What
do you what do you do you feel like? Uh?
Do you feel like you you learned anything from in
the past? How or do you have any takeaways? Do
you have any thoughts?
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Nope? I think the people who are listening though, or
the people called in it. It sounds like there's a
consistency where people need to just like, you know, love
themselves and yeah, man, learn to as well forgive themselves
and to forgive the people around them. That was the
(01:00:24):
thing that I've kind of taken from ends that. Man,
we're just you know, what do you expect? We're all
just grown babies.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
That's really nice. It's really nice. We're all just grown.
I'm trying to connect it back to ET somehow.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Mm hmm. I feel like I'm sure it's there. I'm
sure someone in the chat will probably figure it out.
Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Well, yeah, man, thanks for thanks for coming on the show.
Is there do you want to do you want to
do any plugs? Don't plug anything?
Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Yeah, you guys could check out my new EP that
came out called spirit Box. It's tight. And then there
is a movie I made called Ash that's come out
next year.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Where is it coming through? Oh cool man?
Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Where like you did? Getting like a wide like I
can go to like my local am. Yeah yeah yeah,
what can you tell us about it at all?
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
There's a trailer out you can check out of the trailer.
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Okay, cool, yeah, cool cool? What's it called again?
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Ash? Ash?
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Very nice, well flying letters, thank you for joining me as.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
A thank you so much, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
It goes on the line taking your phone calls every
night ever, goes to his teaching you a loud line
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