December 15, 2024 • 63 mins
A caller catches me up on his experience doing DMT several days in a row this week.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All from Flux.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hello, Hello, Hi, what's your name?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Flux?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
What's up? Plugs?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Well, I wanted to talk to you about some recent
experiences I've been having. Okay, so I've been experimenting with
d MT.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh very nice. How's that been going.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Crazy?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So I yes, I guess I've experimented with psychedelics kind
of growing up, and I always had pleasant experiences with them.
Then I had a coworker tell me about this group,
Discord group, and ended up getting one of these weight patents.
(01:04):
And so first night I tried it, I was with
my fiance and she wanted to try a little bit,
so she just tried a little bit. She liked it,
and then I was like, okay, well I guess I'll
try just a little bit. I tried a little bit
and you know, nothing too powerful or anything. And then
(01:26):
after that ended, I looked at her and I was like, okay,
I think I want to go all the way in.
And so I did, and so I took to you know,
a blinker, you know, two blinkers off the ten and
(01:47):
my ears started ringing and the patterns I have my
eyes closed, and the patterns came in and it was
probably the most intense experien as I've ever had. So yeah,
my ears started ringing and ringing kind of faded out.
(02:07):
I saw these cool patterns. The most interesting one of
the most interesting things I had was my I got
a weird taste in my mouth, like I don't know
if you ever liked a nine vault battery before, but
it was a weird metallicky taste. I also had a
weird almost as if I'd put like a couple of
(02:30):
pop rocks on my tongue. So I found that really interesting.
So I was like just really intense, and I kept
telling on telling myself, Oh, breathe through this, you know, breathe,
keep breathing. It's okay, it's temporary. Just breathe. So I
was just breathing it and not fighting anything, and I
broke I believe I broke through. I saw an entity.
(02:56):
I don't know if you've how much you know about
d MT, but it's for people to encounter entities. So
this entity was a all black shadow that had kind
of like a pointed hat, kind of like a triangle,
like almost like a witch hat almost. It was really weird.
(03:17):
And I had deep red eyes, and I found you know,
describing that to somebody sounds kind of terrifying, but I
got a more mysterious vibe to it, like it was
introducing itself to me. You know, it wasn't intimidating. It's
(03:38):
kind of eerie, but it wasn't aggressive, intimidating negative. So
I came back out, came back out of it, and
then you know, I told my fiance, Okay, I'm coming back,
and she said, well, I'm surprised how calm you were
during it, And I was like really, She goes, yeah,
(03:59):
you were just laying there. Your breathing was normal, And
I was like, really, because my breath during it while
I was in there, I felt like I was like,
you know, because it's so intense, but apparently I was
just calm throughout it all. So I don't know if
(04:20):
you've ever had any experiences like that. Have you ever
done DMT?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So this experience, how long did it last? Because I've
heard that it's only about fifteen minutes, but it feels
like a lot longer.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
We didn't time it, but she said I was about
five to seven minutes where I was silent and kind
of not there. But I definitely feel that I was
in another dimension, that's for sure. I didn't have an
out of body experience to the point where like you're
(04:56):
looking down and you see yourself, but I was definitely
not here at all.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And how long do you feel like you were under
the influence for.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So I took the two puffs and held them in
and you know, came came back maybe five minutes, six
minutes later, and then it was very kind of short lived.
Everything felt completely normal within twenty minutes after it came back,
(05:29):
just like it never happened. I mean, uh, physically, you know,
I didn't feel high or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
So do you feel like you learned anything.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I've been listening to a lot of different podcasts about
d MT and consciousness and stuff like that, so I
definitely learned that there's more to life than one would think.
(06:07):
But also it's just like I said, that entity I met,
it was almost like it was cautious towards me, like
I didn't want to reveal itself fully. But I ended
up doing Guarantee the next night because I wanted to
learn more.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Tell me about that one.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, it went great again this time. You know that
my ears started ringing again a weird case, and sensation
came in my mouth, and I, you know, felt everything
I felt before, but this time I had I felt
(06:49):
like there was like a weird triangle or pyramid on
the left side of my vision. I had my eyes
closed again, and uh but this pyramid was slanted at
like forty five degrees clockwise and this I believe it
was the same entity, which fully revealed itself. And uh
(07:14):
so the backtrack a little bit. A few weeks ago,
the mother in law wanted to go see Wicked. You
heard about that movie yet?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, I've heard of Wicked.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, so you know, I'm not I don't really like musicals,
but I was like, I at least spend time with
the family, so we went and saw it. And so
I think that movie may have had an influence on
this trip because I saw this the figure again, but
this figure was fully revealed, and there was a green
kind of like you know, green skin with the same hat,
(07:50):
but it was bouncing on each side of the top
of the pyramid, kind of like a playful teasing vibe
to it, and it was kind of like she was
wholly revealing herself to me and kind of like tease
teasing me, like, oh you thought you knew what to
(08:11):
expect because you did it the time before, but it
just kind of reminded me that, like, I have no
idea what this molecule or whatever is capable of. So
that was a part that was a really positive experience again,
you know. And then the next day I tried to
(08:34):
go in again, and this is where I had I
wouldn't say a bad trip, but an unsettling experience. And
that's kind of what I want to talk to you about.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Did you did it a third time?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You said, yes, yes, I've done a couple of times
after that, but I didn't take as much, so I
didn't go as deep and those were just kind of
like you know, psychedelic visions and kept my eyes open
the third time.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So to recap, you took it once, you saw the
outline of an entity. Then the very next day you
take it again and the entity reveals itself. It is
Alphabe from Wicked, and she is taunting you.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And then it wasn't it was it was it wasn't
her from Alpha.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It was inspired. It was it was Alphaba inspired, I think.
So yeah, now tell me about the third time.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Okay, so this is where things get weird.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And every time I work long hours, I get home
from work, I shower. I'm going to know, I'm going
to go back in. I take a shower, you know.
I mean that's the first thing I do after I
get out of work, shower and I'm in the shower,
you practice breathing and kind of getting my mind straight
and h. So this time my fiance wasn't home. I
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was just alone. But I felt comfortable enough to do
this alone.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
And and.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Uh, I was laying down. I did you know the
amount that I've been doing the two blinkers or whatever,
and I make it a point to keep my eyes open.
I guess I did it. I think I did it
twice before this time, but they're half the half of
(10:24):
the dose. Kept my eyes open, had music, and I didn't,
you know, fully break through to this other dimension. This time.
I did the full amount, no music, playing the same lighting,
you know, in my bedroom, laying on my bed looking out.
But I was told, you know, by the Di Square group,
(10:45):
you'll always keep your eyes open, So I kept my
eyes open this time. And I don't recall closing my
eyes if or when I close my eyes, And I
don't recall if or when opening my eye back up.
But I went in and this time I didn't. At first,
(11:07):
I didn't see all time. I don't recall seeing a
lot of geometric patterns. I don't I didn't recall anything
like the the first two times, I did get the
ears ringing, I did get the weird sensation in my mouth,
but this time it was really dark and black, and
(11:32):
there was like almost like these tubes or lines going
in further, like further in my sight. And like I said,
I don't know if my eyes are open or closed,
but it was a really weird unset. I wouldn't say negative,
(11:54):
but it was kind of unsettling, almost like a anxious
pair annoyed thing feeling. But at this entity, I was
really looking forward. I was hoping to see the entity
before because I wanted to ask what if it had
a name? You know. This time I saw a different
entity and it was humanoid and from what I remember,
(12:17):
kind of had like a mummy look to it. It
was kind of creepy, and it was bouncing around these
different angles of lines, like almost like seeking around the
corner looking at me, and so you know, I felt
pretty uncomfortable, but at the same time, you know, I
(12:38):
was like just breathed, this isn't forever, and it's okay.
You know, it wasn't threatening. It was just creepy. And
then when I came back, uh, you know, I had
like the cool kind of psychedelic visuals with your eyes open.
I came back, I felt I kind of felt discouraged
(12:58):
and a little sad because the experiences weren't like it
was before. I asked about it to the group and
one of the people said that, oh, you know, there's
duality and everything, and though it wasn't a very pleasant experience,
you have to appreciate it for what it was and
what it might be telling you. So I think maybe.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, that's kind of the that's kind of the motto
when it comes to intense drug experiences.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, so I think maybe it was trying to tell me,
like again, like, hey, you have no idea what you're doing,
and maybe you don't need to rush anything. You know,
this group talks about, you know, don't force anything. If
you don't feel right, don't go into it. I felt
right before I went into it, but it told you know, afterwards,
I was thinking about it, you know, like, don't rush it,
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don't don't you know, don't force yourself to go back
in there. There's no need. And so I've taken the
last few few days off from it, but I do
plan to go back in either later tonight or tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
How recently was this third DMT experience?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I was two or three days ago?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, so I think it was two days ago. So
hold on, hold on, So when did you do it?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
When?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
When did you say you did it for the very
first time?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Actually, the first time I did it was last year
and I smoked it off a lead bowl, which is
kind of a funny story. I don't think you had
time for that. But the first time I did it,
I believe I was coming off of mental health prescriptions.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So so hold on, So just iould just want to
get a timeline here, So you how many times in
the last seven days have you done DMT?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I'd say four or five, but two of those four
I believe, but two of those are the full dishes
that I took.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
All right, So you're so in the last seven days,
you've done it four times, and I think you want
to do it again tonight.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Or tomorrow whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
As let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, h.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
What are you hoping to gain from doing d m
T five times in one week.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I'm more so interested about uh learning and uh broadening
my consciousness.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
What are you trying to learn?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I'm trying to learn about reality, trying to learn about
just kind of life, what it all may mean, whatever,
I'm open whatever it has to teach me.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Well, okay, can I can I offer you? Well, but
I here's I'm because I'm open minded. But can I
offer you alternative viewpoints as well as for other questions?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Okay. I think if you're trying to learn about reality,
inducing yourself constantly in a world of hallucinations is the opposite.
I want to learn about reality. Just go outside and
(16:47):
take a walk and real, you know, because if you
take if you take a drug, it's gonna make you
hallucinate that you are seeing al for but from wicked
and she's teasing you. That's not a great way. I
don't think to learn about reality. And I'm and you
(17:10):
know what, there's gonna be comments on the fucking thing
that are gonna fucking be like, you don't know what
you're talking about, and all the aliens are real, and
what do you know about reality? You're a gecko, and
you know what, I'm open to that. That's fine. I
respect it. I like drugs. I like psychedelics. I think
(17:30):
it's good too. I think you can take some stuff
away from them. But I don't. I just I'm I
think I'm just mildly concerned about doing d MT six
times in a six times in a row, five times
in a row, however many times in a row it is.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, So I.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Just add a certain point, what to what degree is
this going to be healing and helpful to you? Versus
like you're just hitting a lever over and over and
over again. And I don't know, I'm ignorant to that,
but I'm just I think it's worth bringing up and
talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, And I'm not dying to like escape my reality.
I'm not doing it to heal any part of myself.
I'm at a pretty decent place in my life, you know.
But I also don't plan on Ben's using this, you know,
Like I have this pen, and once the pen is gone,
(18:35):
I don't plan on getting another one for quite some time.
I just want to learn what I can from it
while I have it.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Okay, what have you so? I mean you've already done
this five times. What have you learned?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
That's a kind of a loaded question. I learned that
there's a lot more going on than what we're aware of,
like what, Like I said, it's it's kind of hard
to put into words like uh more on like a
(19:15):
where we're at consciously and where we're at the cosmos almost.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
What?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Well, yeah, well, I mean yeah, yeah, we're we're part
of a we're on a little ball that's like point
zero zero zero zero percent of infinity. Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yes, and you know all the things going on like
ah in the US, it kind of fascinates me.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
But yeah, all right, I'm gonna take some questions from
the chat. Is that cool?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah? I'd love to hear from the chat.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
All right, cool, all right, you don't have to you
don't have to look at the chat though, I'll just
I'll read the questions for you. Has any questions here?
Let's see, Uh well, someone said, oh yeah, okay, uh
someone asked, what's your favorite McDonald's order? We can you
(20:32):
can answer that, while more well, some real questions come in.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
My favorite McDonald's order, probably I'm almost really hungry when
I get McDonald's. We'll probably a quarter pound double quarter
pound or cheese and my snager a couple of chicken
nuggets from my fiance with the diet coke, always die coke.
I'm a part of the diet coke cult.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, oh yeah, I'm a big die coke mf. Someone
wants to know what is this discord group? Although if
you say it and it goes on this podcast, it
might get flooded.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, I'm not allowed to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Uh. Someone asked, have you ever done d MT?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I mean we're just talking about that.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Then someone asked, how are you learning about reality from
drugs and not going and not from going out and
experiencing things.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I think I've learned quite a bit about reality by
going out doing I'm a very active person. I have
a lot of social interactions every day of the week. So,
like I said, I think I'm learning more about perceived reality.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
What I believe, I believe. I believe. I believe you
on that. I don't. I don't think you're a basement dweller.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, no, no at all.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Someone said, do you think your desire to learn more
about reality comes from a fear of your own perceived reality? U?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
No, I don't. I don't. I don't fear my perceived
reality at all. Someone said, I was just saying, I'm
very curious about, uh more of what I see. You know,
I'm on a cosmos level almost.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
You know. Someone said, do you think reality is real?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Do I think reality is real? That's a good question,
especially I don't know if you've heard. I'm sure you
have the whole simulation theory. I've been learning up about
that and that blows my mind. But I don't know, man,
I don't think we're meant to know.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Someone asked if you've ever seen the movie I Robot,
and if you have, if it's good.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I have seen I Robot, but not in a long time. Yeah.
I think it was a good movie from what I remember.
I think it would be very dangerous to resimulate what's
going on in that movie.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Someone asked what your greatest fear is.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
My greatest fear probably dying alone with my loved ones present.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Do you mean dying alone without your loved ones present?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Well.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I lost my father to cancer, and he didn't have
much support in the last few months of his life,
So I don't know. But fear is a kind of
a weird idea for me, because I don't think I
necessarily fear moving on. I guess I have more so
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fear about doing it alone before I move on.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Someone said, what does the missus think of all these
reality learning experiences you are going on?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
What does the missus think about it? She she's sitting
right next to me, and you want to talk to her?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Sure, yeah, we can get her answer to that question. Hi,
mister ghetto, Hey, what's up? How's life? What's your name?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I'm uh z z z.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
What do you think of all this d What do
you think of at this D M T stuff going on?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I think it's cool. I mean as a a little
bit with him, but I only do like one puff
and I just get like visuals and it's really cool.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Are you afraid that he'll lose his mind?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I have pretty bad anxiety, so I have, like I
always think of the worst case scenarios. So whenever he
goes in, I'm kind of like hyper hyper vigilant about
like his breathing and how he's acting. So I always
feel like a breath of relief when he comes back
and he's normal.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
So when he comes back and he's normal, and then
he okay. So when he comes back and he's normal,
and then he's like, Hey, I'm gonna do this again.
Are you like? Are you like? Does that make you
nervous too?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
A little bit?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
But now that he's done it a couple of times,
it's like, I'm getting used to it.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I guess would you ever do it with him?
Speaker 6 (25:56):
Like go all in?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I don't know because I have quite a bit of
like mental health issues. So, and I'm also on SSRIs
and it's not really recommended to be doing drugs anyway.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
On that, someone asked are cats birds? I don't. You
don't have to answer that. So what do you what?
I want to know? What's who is? Who are you guys?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
What's your life?
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Like?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
What do you guys do? How old are you guys?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Where So I'm in my late twenties, he's in his
early thirties.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
What do you guys do with your lives?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
I do like customer service and he is like blue collar?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
It's pretty cool. What do you what's uh? What's what's
your guys' dream? What do you what's your dream in life?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
My dream is to open up a restaurant or a
coffee shop.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
One day.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I think coffee and food really brings people together. And
something that's really important to me is like community.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
What's his dream is it? Is it involved doing more DMD.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Doing more DMPT. He's figuring it out.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
That's cool.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I think. I think I think Flex really lives live
day to day and I think I think that living
is for living, like just experiencing every day doing the
best you can.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, I'm on that wave now. I've always been a
big planner and a big like what's going on this
year and that year? And I actually I think that's good.
But I think you gotta have you gotta have a
good ratio of vaguely planning and then attempting to actually
just live each day so that you're not constantly anxious.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Can I can I talk to what's what's his name? Again?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Flex?
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Can I talk to Flex again?
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Here he is?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
So get what?
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well, did you have fun? Did you have fun having
this conversation?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah? I've been trying to get through to you, man,
I've been trying to get few to you, through to
you for the last four or five months or so,
and you know, each each time, I'm like, oh, what
do I want to what do I want to tell
him this time? And so uh, you know, there's one
point where I was like, oh, I wanted to tell
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you about how I broke free of addiction and how
me and my partner both did that, and how we
came back together. I've wanted to give you my my
my love story with fiance. I wanted to tell you
(29:05):
some of the worst tender dates I've had, possible or
almost died. There's been a few different things, but I
think this is the one I wanted to reach you with.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You know, you seem like you lived quite a life
so far, flex and look at and look at you.
You've got so much more life left to live. It's
pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, definitely. I mean I've been to some really little
places in my life, especially the last couple of years.
But since me and my partner got clean and sober,
you know, my life has just gotten so much better.
(29:44):
I found a career, I went to school, I'm financially stable,
and I would have never imagined doing this while I
was using.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
So well, it sounds like it sounds like now, I
guess you can do all the dmto that you want,
maybe not that much, maybe not that much. Dmpty. Maybe
not maybe not that much dmpty, but.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, I mean I don't have a desire to do
it long term and extensively. Like I said, I'm just
trying to take as much of what I can out
of this cart I have right now.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
You know, Flux, is there anything else you want to
say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Thanks for all for listening and saying some crazy stuff
in the chat about me that I didn't read. And
you know, if you're struggling with addiction, there is light
at the end of the tunnel and you can accomplish
things that you never think you could before.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Thank you, Flux. Have a good rest of the day
and a good rest of your life. And uh, you know,
glad to have you here in reality for as long
as you desire to be here.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Hey, I'll be here till my last breath.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Take care, Flux, you do bye? I would I would
consider doing d MT. I don't know. I don't know
how I feel about psychedelic drugs anymore. Like I've done
mushrooms a bunch and that's nice, but uh, I've really
not to This isn't anything reflective of the caller, but
(31:37):
I've really kind of given up on the idea of
the epiphany, you know, because this it just I've always
felt like this idea that you do like DMT or
ayahuasca or mushrooms. Granted I've never done d MT or ahuasca.
(31:57):
I've done mushrooms and I've done acid. And the idea
that you do a drug and you come to an
epiphany and it changes your life, I always I always
felt like that was bullshit, because you don't. All the
epiphanies that I've come to in my life have been
as a result of like years of stuff, years of
(32:23):
operating in a certain way, and like the are like
epiphanies are gradual things that come to you after years
of life experience, and I don't. That's just one of
the things I think I've learned is that they don't
the idea that I used to have, like I'm gonna
do a drug and it's gonna change my life maybe
(32:46):
I you know what I I And that's just for me.
If you've had a drug experience that changed your life
and gave you an epiphany, and then that's awesome. And
I'm not invalidating your personal experience. I'm just talking about
for me. But yeah, I've just never felt like that.
(33:09):
It felt like it's like, for me, it felt like
it was like cheating. It's like what it's like. It's like,
it's like, of course, the idea of a drug that's
gonna magically make you change your life is incredibly appealing,
but it's just always felt like it was too good
to be true. Maybe you can go and do ayahuasca
and Brazil and come back and it's a catalyst for
(33:32):
a long term, extended change. I can see that being
a thing, But at the end of the day, it's
a lot of that shit just feels like it's like
just trying to avoid doing doing any work, which is understandable.
I don't want to do any fucking work to change
(33:53):
my life, I I but I don't think I would.
I would love to go to Brazil and do ayahuasca
and then come back and be like, oh, everything's changed
because I did, because I after I just one day,
everything changed. But I don't. I just don't think it's
that easy for anyone. Maybe it is. May if you
(34:15):
went to Brazil and you did ayahuasca and it changed
your life forever, then that's awesome and I'm so happy
to be wrong and I and if that happened to you,
I would love to change my life in one day
by doing ayahuasca. But I don't. I just I'm like
I think. I think it's like, you know, you fucking
(34:35):
go to therapy for years and you try to eat healthier,
like it's all just it's like it's like it's boring,
unsexy bullshit. Ultimately that I guess led to any epiphanes
or life changes that I've had. It's like being trying
(34:56):
to be courageous in putting yourself out there and being
in uncomfortable situations and lots of writing and lots of
thinking and lots of talking and lots of living and
lots of time have kind of felt like they've led
to the epiphanies of my life. And maybe you throw
some mushrooms and some shit in there, but I don't know.
(35:18):
I'm crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Hello, Yep, how's it going man?
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yo, it's going good, It's going all right. What's your name?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
My name is Chris, Chris.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
You know it's going good. Actually I feel pretty good.
I uh like everything's gonna be fine. You know, everything
is gonna be fine. Probably the world is zoo is
a tough, unforgiving place. I don't know if everything's gonna
be fine in the world. I mean, I guess it
(35:52):
will be. I don't know. What do you think? Do
you think everything's gonna be fine?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
You know, I'm I'm looking at it a little optimistically
right now. You know, I get what you mean, though
you ain't wrong, you ain't wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Sure, but yeah, what are you optimistic about?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
You know, future prospects, you know. Uh, people, people doing things.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
People are doing things. Yeah. Yeah. I was walking around
in Target today and I was like, you know, no
matter who the president is or what's going on, really
anywhere outside of this target, inside of this target, there's
just there's just motherfuckers walking around Target.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You know, you know that's fucking real.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
There's a guy, some some lady is looking at the
back of a shampoo bottle and deciding if she's gonna
buy it. There's a kid running around like you know, life,
Life keeps going, Life keeps going. Uh. That's a simplistic
way of looking at stuff. But you know what, I
think we've maybe we've had enough complex ways of looking
(37:09):
at stuff, and maybe we should have a simplistic way
of looking at stuff. Every now and then. I don't
know anyway, you know anyway that'd be nice. Yeah, and
you know what's up with you? Chris? What? How? How
what you called me on the phone today And I'm
curious why?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah. So there is there's one big thing and like
one small thing that's before that. Okay, uh so yeah,
I'd say, I suppose we can call for or you
can start off with the with the small thing. So
(37:46):
first and foremost, I didn't anticipate being as nervous as
I was to take this call.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You're doing great, So I say, this is my new
thing that I say now is I just I want
you to know and I want you to understand it,
and I want you to internalize that this phone call
is one of the least important things you will ever
do in your entire life. So the stakes are very low.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
That is incredibly fair. So truth be told, I've called
in before. I think it's God has been like two
three months, probably two three months. Oh yeah, yeah, this
was the dude who called in about two three months
ago about like art college and and like talked about
(38:35):
like how I left it and and sh it's been weird.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
So oh okay, I think I don't. I don't think
I put that in the podcast.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, which like no sweat, no pressure, man, uh you know,
but uh yeah, I figured I've my my thought process
has I suppose like changed a bit. So I ran
into a bit of a dilemma and I wanted to
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get your your opinion on it, because you are you.
You're a type of dude that I've heard before we
talk about like, you know, if you really want to
do something, to do it, don't let that talk you
all that, sure, but but there's a bit more that
goes into it rather than just like, oh, this is
the one thing I want to do.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Well, listen, listen, listen, listen, tell me the small thing.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
No, the small thing was just the previous call in
and that oh writer ship, my bad. Yeah, the small
thing was I called in before. And it's weird to
say this about like talking about your feelings, but I
feel like I kind of bombed.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Again again again. This is the least important thing. This
is the ranks among the top ten least important things
you will do in your life. You will take shits
and cook eggs that are more important than this phone
call right now. So okay, So there was so what's
(40:12):
the thing, what's the big thing?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
The big thing is so going short and sweet of
it and then context later, short and suite of it is.
I don't know if I want to continue doing art
or if I want to do something else, like I
don't know, computer science or engineering or something like that.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Okay, so you said so you said you were like,
you're a kind of guy who's like, if you want
to do something, just do it. And I'm generally a
supporter of that, even though it's I guess hard to
decide what you want to do. But if you have
an inkling of an idea of a thing that you
might want to do, you might as well try it.
(40:54):
So what's the thing that you want to try and do.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Well? I mean, I like I like tinkering, the stuff
I like doing, like doing playing around with like pecking
ship like that, and coding and all that. So I've
been thinking about doing that, but I still love art.
You know, Art is still something I want to do.
You know, it's just because of Art College. They've it
(41:22):
showed me that, like, hey, this is probably what the
industry is going to look like. And I was like, well, shit,
I don't know if I'm going to enjoy that and so,
but another part of me is like, well, maybe maybe
I'm wrong in that the school was just ass. So
I'm kind of going back and forth between that and
(41:45):
saying like, well, if I could always just do something
like coding or engineering or whatever and then have art
still be something just I do on the side.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Let me let me, let me, let me tell you.
Let me tell you something. It is perfectly legitimate, if
not even for a lot of people, optimal of a
strategy to have what you do for a living to
make money so that you can sleep in a place
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and eat food, to be a different thing than the
thing that you do for personal fulfillment, enjoy and enjoyment.
That is not only a perfectly legitimate way to live life,
it is for some people in some lifestyles, and an
optimal way to live life. So if you just fucking
like making art and you would do it for zero
(42:40):
dollars in your free time because you just fucking like
doing it, then you know, keep doing it. If you're
really committed and determined then you want to make a
career out of it, then I think that's a worthwhile
pursuit as well. But if you're sitting here, like, I
don't really like where this industry is going, and I
don't really think I want to go down the path
(43:00):
that would be required for me to do art as
a living, and so let me just get into coding
and I'll do my art at night when I have time,
as a perfectly legitimate way to live life. So that
that's really my opinion on the matter.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
I could see that I get what you're putting down.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, because also I mean nothing. I just say, you know,
nothing's gonna make you hate your hobby more than having
to do it for a living. But some people like
that it's really just how you're wired. Some people are
like I take a strong identity in like what I
do for money is my you know what, my art
(43:42):
is my profession and blah blah blah. And that's a
legitimate way to live too. But you know it's either way.
Don't freak yourself out about it.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
I getcha. I getcha.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Well, Chris, yeah, do you feel like you do? You go?
You go ahead.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
There was a very important question I wanted to add
on to this. Okay, So so my question is, you
know you're you're a man that talks about food with
the people, and there's been a question that's on on
my mind.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Go ahead, what.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
What's your least fast food the least favorite fast food place.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Oh, that's a really great question. Let me think, Let
me think. Oh, man, you're putting me on the spot here.
I'm gonna go I don't like Wendy's. I'm not a
big Wendy's guy. And less if they want to sponsor me,
then I'm a big Wendy's guy. But no, I don't
like Wendy's. Oh I don't know if okay, fuck these people.
(44:45):
Even if they want to sponsor me, I don't know
if this counts as fast food. I'm gonna say it
kind of does. Maybe. I fucking hate Starbucks with a passion.
I hate Starbucks with a passion. Dunkin Donuts all the way,
Tim Hortons all the way. Starbucks overpriced, shitty coffee, zero
(45:09):
food options, and the food options they have are are
dainty and peteete and overpriced and gross and and and
they're everywhere and everywhere you go in the morning, there's
lines and huge lines for this fucking shitty, overpriced coffee.
And it's it's disgusting to see, so shout out Dunkin Donuts,
(45:32):
shout out Tim Hortons. Both fantastic brands. Love I mean
Tim tim Hortons takes the cake when it comes to
the on on on this thing because Tim Hortons, They've
got great variety of sweet products. Like if you want
to go there and you're feeling if you're feeling crazy,
Tim Hortons has got you on like a Nattella eminem
(45:54):
donut and a frosted milkshake fucking thing. But also if
you're like I'm just want to get some lunch and
eat a normal thing, and you want to get like
a chicken Caesar wrap and a normal coffee, they got
you on that too, and it's and it's the price
is great, even even in fucking Canadian dollars, the price
(46:15):
is great. So shout out Tim Horton's. Unfortunately not big
around them. I think they're big in like Northern They're
like I think they've got Tim Horton's in like Seattle
or Washington, but uh, it's unfortunately not a big American thing.
Duncan Donuts, I'll give it to they have some great uh,
(46:38):
like the snack wraps are good, the bagel every time
I get like a bagel, bagel, egg and cheese sandwich
is good because when I try to get a bacon,
a baked egg and cheese at the fucking Starbucks, it's
like an It's like a dainty, dainty English muffin the
size of a fucking quarter and it's like seven dollars
(46:59):
and so fuck fuck the Starbucks people. So that's that's
my long winded answer to your question.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
You know what, though, do they do they have Tim
Horton's in like California Because I have never been, I.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Don't think they do. I don't think they do. I
think if they would have expanded that far beyond Canada,
they would have. Uh what, there's Dutch Brothers, which I'm
not super familiar on. I know they have that in Arizona.
They have a Delicious They have delicious stuff, like yeah,
(47:37):
what's Randy's.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Randy's is like this, uh I hope I'm remembering it right.
It's this donut place in La oh yeah. And and
it's like it's known for the big, the big fucking
donut that it has as its sign. And they do
weird ship they do like they do I've seen and
(48:00):
like bacon and marshmallow donuts. I've seen fruity pebble donuts.
I've seen I've seen trying to think of what else
they have like they had. I saw one that was
practically a cake, but it was in fact a donut.
(48:21):
That ship's good.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Well, Chris, do you feel like this call went better? Yeah? Yeah,
I'll probably I'm probably gonna put this in the podcast
this time.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
God, God bless you, God bless you.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Is there anything else you want to say to the
people of the computer.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah, man, guys, you know, keep it sleazy, and you
that one individual who's who's listening and or watching with this.
Stop fucking procrastinating. I know, I know what you gotta do.
Fucking stop procrastinating.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Do it?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Take care, Chris, you two get I'm trying to think
what else is on my list of worst fast food brands?
I'm gonna go. I mean, you know, Wendy's. I think
you know what it is is back in high school,
I just had a bad Wendy's experience and I really
(49:19):
haven't had it since. What else is there? And the
fact that I don't like I really I like. I
love I love Burger King. I love that they give
you a nice, big like The Whopper is a big
It's a real fucking burger. The McDonald's burgers can be
a little dainty at times, but you know, I'm not.
I'm not gonna throw any shade at McDonald's. I'm a
(49:39):
McDonald's guy. What I can only there's stuff that I like.
You know what I gotta I gotta have jolly b
I've never I han't had jolly be in a while.
I'm really trying to think, like Subways fine, the only Yeah,
Starbucks is just the only one that came up when
(49:59):
I was thinking of like fast food brands that I
have a strong distain for because they're just trying to
be cool. I just hate when when places like that
are trying to be cool and just up charging you
for fucking nothing but shout out Tim Horton's those guys rock.
Speaker 5 (50:20):
Hello, Hi, Hi, Hi, Hello.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Hi, Hello Hi. What's your name? What's your name?
Speaker 5 (50:27):
Are we gonna? Can we start this over? What?
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Can we?
Speaker 5 (50:31):
Can we start this over?
Speaker 2 (50:32):
No? We have to do. What's your name?
Speaker 5 (50:35):
My name is Fenn. I am in California and I wasn't.
I don't really have anything I want to talk about
in specifics. I'm open to questions. I don't know, maybe
I could ask you questions. Been a fan for a minute.
I am a fan of men, and I am a
(50:56):
furry and I live in California.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
What have we ever spoken before?
Speaker 5 (51:03):
Never? Once?
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Okay, you're a fan of and you're a fan of?
Like yeah, like you're you just have guys that you're
a fan of, or you're like, are you trying to
say that you're sexually attracted to men?
Speaker 5 (51:16):
Both?
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Okay? What what men are you a fan of?
Speaker 3 (51:22):
Ooh?
Speaker 5 (51:25):
Just one right now? But if I had the opportunity,
I think Bowser from Super Mario is pretty pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
I don't know. I feel like having his tail in
your ass would hurt because he's got the spikes on him.
Speaker 5 (51:39):
No, no, no, we're not going for tails.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
No no, well he doesn't have a penis, so you
couldn't just the way he doesn't, you know.
Speaker 5 (51:48):
Fun fact, Nintendo took down a three D art of
just what someone thought his dick would look like. They
took it down for being like a copyright thing.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
So I feel like he does canonic. Look here's the
thing you can go yes, sure you can go on
Divian art or whatever. The fucking twenty twenty four equivalent
of Dvian art is. And you can find plenty of
pictures of Bowser with a huge penis, but canonically, the
creator of Bowser, Shagiro Miamoto, has never once had Bowser
(52:26):
with a big, giant cock. And but the.
Speaker 7 (52:28):
Really, but why I said the tail is because it's close,
because in Super Mario sixty in sixty, in Super Mario
sixty four, you beat Bowser by swinging him by the
cock and throwing him off, and you go so long,
gay Bowser.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Right there's there, he goes so long, gay Bowser. And
so that's you know, that's maybe maybe you're that that
is this is the closest you will see to Bowser
and Mario having gay. And that is the end of
this part of this conversation. What did you do today?
Speaker 5 (53:04):
It sounds good today. I woke up, I woke up,
I checked my unemployment benefits and I hunted for six jobs.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
What six job? What kind of job are you trying to?
What kind of job are you trying to get?
Speaker 1 (53:20):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (53:21):
God, anything but what I did last time, which was
security at a hospital.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Oh no, so you do security.
Speaker 5 (53:30):
I'm trying not to. I'm trying to actually get something different,
really anything, honestly.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Did you have any like physical encounters with people?
Speaker 5 (53:40):
Yes? Yes, that was the job. What kind of I watched?
I watched people with mental issues, be that violent tendencies,
or they didn't want to live anymore, so I had
to prevent them from succeeding in stopping living.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
That's a crazy job. What kind of job are you
applying for now?
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (54:07):
Fucking movie theater McDonald's whatever.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
That's not bad. How old are you?
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (54:13):
Just anything? I am twenty two.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
Okay, that's not bad. Working in the movie theater, you know,
popcorn anything?
Speaker 5 (54:20):
Anything?
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Yeah? Okay, Well, do I have any more questions for you?
You said you had questions for me. I'll take a
question or two.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Oh we go.
Speaker 5 (54:34):
This is when you've been asked probably once before, but
why not? Like?
Speaker 1 (54:39):
Is it is?
Speaker 2 (54:39):
The next ques? Next question? The next question, The next question,
next question, next question, next question?
Speaker 5 (54:44):
What's your next question? Favorite soda type?
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Ooh, that's a great question. I I'm a big fan. Well,
it depends on the time of day, because right before
I hopped on here, I drank a can of diet
mountain Dew, which is delicious and has a lot of caffeine.
It's got like the cans got fifty four mgs and
the bottles got ninety one ninety one grams of caffeine.
(55:09):
It's pretty good. But at night time, if I'm a
little sleepy boy, I like a diet am W. It's
got a great taste and no caffeine. It's hard at
night because you know what I was doing at night
is I was slamming back diet sun Kissed because I
didn't realize it. I didn't realize I thought it was
(55:31):
caffeine free, and then I looked at the fucking label
and apparently it's got twenty nine MG's in there, which
I didn't think, which you know, is not that bad,
but it's enough.
Speaker 5 (55:44):
You ever get around to try and coffee coke?
Speaker 2 (55:46):
What is called?
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (55:48):
Holy shit?
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (55:49):
Did I talk about coffee coke ones?
Speaker 5 (55:53):
Yeah? Fuck yeah. I just I'm sad that it's gone.
It was my favorite thing.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
Holy shit, Yes, I you, Oh my god, you just
blew my mind. I used to be not obsessed with
coffee coke, but I used to really want to try it.
I remember coffee coke. Yeah, it's a real disgusting invent invention.
I think you put like I think they put like
cream and sugar in there to this cream sugar, coffee
(56:18):
and coke. Who the fuck is drinking that?
Speaker 1 (56:23):
This guy?
Speaker 5 (56:23):
I fucking loved it.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
It was good.
Speaker 5 (56:25):
I didn't like any other flavor, but like the very
dark roast one. Does it actually taste of like coffee?
Speaker 1 (56:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (56:34):
That's it's really good. It's just really good. Well, thank
you for bringing me a blast to the bath. Let
me leave you with this. Give a shot to the bowser, No,
give a shot to the Oreo flavored Coca cola. It's
really gross. It's gross. It is both there. Both the
(56:55):
Oreo flavored Coca Cola and the Coca cola flavored Oreos
are disgusting. But you should try them if you have
nothing else to do with your life.
Speaker 5 (57:05):
Well, thank you for your time, while I'll let you go.
I hope you have a wonderful stream.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
Hey, you too, take care of Finn later. Hello. Hello, Hi,
what's your name?
Speaker 6 (57:18):
I'm Frankie frank and I'm from Germany.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
Frankie from Germany, Germany. I was in Germany recently. It's
an interesting country. It's very uh, people are very cold there,
I've noticed.
Speaker 6 (57:36):
Yes, I don't know. I guess it's some type of
defense mechanism.
Speaker 2 (57:42):
Maybe, Well, Frankie, what can I do you for? How's life?
Sorry to just shit on your people and then open
with that, but I guess I can't. I can't really
take that back. What's up?
Speaker 6 (57:54):
No, I've hurt the love worse. Actually it's fine.
Speaker 3 (58:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (58:02):
I'm just I don't know, really, I don't know what's
going on in my head. I'm I'm thinking a lot recently,
and I started writing a zombie movie because I've been
watching The Walking Dead and I actually just watched an
episode where some group kills a bunch of people and
puts their heads on sticks, and I don't know, I
(58:27):
don't know. It just seems pointless to kill like fifteen
people at a time. But I think it's bad writing
towards the end of the show.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
So it's okay, you.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
Say, thinking a lot, What have you been thinking about?
Speaker 6 (58:46):
I go to university right now and I'm starting philosophy
and French, but it all seems kind of pointless. And
I'm trying to get into a school a few hours
away for interior design, but I don't really know if
I want to do that, So I've been thinking what
(59:10):
I want to do with my life. But yeah, I
don't know if I should even be thinking or if
I should be like out in the world, you know.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
I would say, I mean, I feel like life is
a combination of being out in the world and thinking.
There's a there's a nice ratio. There's a nice ratio
to be thinking and being out in the world to do.
But I if I had to make a guess on
what the optimal ratio of thinking versus being out in
the world with, I'm gonna err on the side of
being out in the world. I'm gonna go twenty percent
(59:42):
thinking eighty percent being out in the world. That's my
that's my that's my ratio, not my ratio. My ratio
is a lot of thinking and a lot of nothing else.
But yeah, I think that's probably a good ratio. What
(01:00:06):
are you out in the world doing?
Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
I don't know. I was on I went on a
pretty big vacation this year because I've finished high school.
And then I went and drove through a couple of
European countries with my boyfriend, which was really great and
we did like some work and travel and I'm thinking
(01:00:32):
about going farther away because I've only ever been in
Europe and being home is kind of depressing at this
time of year because I don't know. There's not much
to do or see, and i'd like to go somewhere
on my own, but I don't have a license, so
(01:00:53):
I would have to go somewhere that's like I don't
know connected you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Know, sure, sure, sure, sure, or I have to or.
Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
I have to get my license, but I don't know.
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
You don't want to get your license.
Speaker 6 (01:01:16):
No, I want to be I want to be forty
and not be able to drive a car. I feel
like not many people do that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Want to be forty and not able to drive a car.
Speaker 6 (01:01:31):
You're kind of how old are you now?
Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
I'm twenty, okay, So just want to sit in a
room for twenty years and eat food occasionally when you
need to, and then you'll you'll be forty in twenty years.
Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
Yes, and I'd like to be forty year old virgin
or like a teen mom or whatever. But that train
has passed, so you'll have to be a forty year
old without a driver's license.
Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
I guess what's your name again, Frankie Franka franca Frankie,
the Franco very nice, very nice? Is Is there anything
else you want to say to the people of the
computer before we go? Franco?
Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
I guess not.
Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Is there anything else that I can do to make
your experience on the phone lines today any better?
Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Mmmm?
Speaker 6 (01:02:44):
Read my book when it comes out. I don't know
what it's going to be called.
Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
How do we read your book?
Speaker 6 (01:02:52):
It's going to be about zombies. That's all I can
say for now, Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Or how do we or is it just like an idea?
Is it is? Or is there a way that we
can read your book?
Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
Maybe I could come up with a name right now,
you come up.
Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
With a come up with a name, and then in
two years we'll google it and we'll find it that way.
Speaker 6 (01:03:21):
Okay, how about how about how about should happens?
Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
I like that? Thank you, Frankie?
Speaker 6 (01:03:33):
Okay, thank you?
Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Bye bye bye. Never weekend goes on the line, think
your phone calls every night? Ever goes? I'm just teaching
you a loud in your line
All from Flux.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hello, Hello, Hi, what's your name?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Flux?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
What's up? Plugs?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Well, I wanted to talk to you about some recent
experiences I've been having. Okay, so I've been experimenting with
d MT.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh very nice. How's that been going.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Crazy?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So I yes, I guess I've experimented with psychedelics kind
of growing up, and I always had pleasant experiences with them.
Then I had a coworker tell me about this group,
Discord group, and ended up getting one of these weight patents.
(01:04):
And so first night I tried it, I was with
my fiance and she wanted to try a little bit,
so she just tried a little bit. She liked it,
and then I was like, okay, well I guess I'll
try just a little bit. I tried a little bit
and you know, nothing too powerful or anything. And then
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after that ended, I looked at her and I was like, okay,
I think I want to go all the way in.
And so I did, and so I took to you know,
a blinker, you know, two blinkers off the ten and
(01:47):
my ears started ringing and the patterns I have my
eyes closed, and the patterns came in and it was
probably the most intense experien as I've ever had. So yeah,
my ears started ringing and ringing kind of faded out.
(02:07):
I saw these cool patterns. The most interesting one of
the most interesting things I had was my I got
a weird taste in my mouth, like I don't know
if you ever liked a nine vault battery before, but
it was a weird metallicky taste. I also had a
weird almost as if I'd put like a couple of
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pop rocks on my tongue. So I found that really interesting.
So I was like just really intense, and I kept
telling on telling myself, Oh, breathe through this, you know, breathe,
keep breathing. It's okay, it's temporary. Just breathe. So I
was just breathing it and not fighting anything, and I
broke I believe I broke through. I saw an entity.
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I don't know if you've how much you know about
d MT, but it's for people to encounter entities. So
this entity was a all black shadow that had kind
of like a pointed hat, kind of like a triangle,
like almost like a witch hat almost. It was really weird.
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And I had deep red eyes, and I found you know,
describing that to somebody sounds kind of terrifying, but I
got a more mysterious vibe to it, like it was
introducing itself to me. You know, it wasn't intimidating. It's
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kind of eerie, but it wasn't aggressive, intimidating negative. So
I came back out, came back out of it, and
then you know, I told my fiance, Okay, I'm coming back,
and she said, well, I'm surprised how calm you were
during it, And I was like really, She goes, yeah,
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you were just laying there. Your breathing was normal, And
I was like, really, because my breath during it while
I was in there, I felt like I was like,
you know, because it's so intense, but apparently I was
just calm throughout it all. So I don't know if
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you've ever had any experiences like that. Have you ever
done DMT?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So this experience, how long did it last? Because I've
heard that it's only about fifteen minutes, but it feels
like a lot longer.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
We didn't time it, but she said I was about
five to seven minutes where I was silent and kind
of not there. But I definitely feel that I was
in another dimension, that's for sure. I didn't have an
out of body experience to the point where like you're
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looking down and you see yourself, but I was definitely
not here at all.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And how long do you feel like you were under
the influence for.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So I took the two puffs and held them in
and you know, came came back maybe five minutes, six
minutes later, and then it was very kind of short lived.
Everything felt completely normal within twenty minutes after it came back,
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just like it never happened. I mean, uh, physically, you know,
I didn't feel high or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
So do you feel like you learned anything.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I've been listening to a lot of different podcasts about
d MT and consciousness and stuff like that, so I
definitely learned that there's more to life than one would think.
(06:07):
But also it's just like I said, that entity I met,
it was almost like it was cautious towards me, like
I didn't want to reveal itself fully. But I ended
up doing Guarantee the next night because I wanted to
learn more.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Tell me about that one.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, it went great again this time. You know that
my ears started ringing again a weird case, and sensation
came in my mouth, and I, you know, felt everything
I felt before, but this time I had I felt
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like there was like a weird triangle or pyramid on
the left side of my vision. I had my eyes
closed again, and uh but this pyramid was slanted at
like forty five degrees clockwise and this I believe it
was the same entity, which fully revealed itself. And uh
(07:14):
so the backtrack a little bit. A few weeks ago,
the mother in law wanted to go see Wicked. You
heard about that movie yet?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, I've heard of Wicked.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, so you know, I'm not I don't really like musicals,
but I was like, I at least spend time with
the family, so we went and saw it. And so
I think that movie may have had an influence on
this trip because I saw this the figure again, but
this figure was fully revealed, and there was a green
kind of like you know, green skin with the same hat,
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but it was bouncing on each side of the top
of the pyramid, kind of like a playful teasing vibe
to it, and it was kind of like she was
wholly revealing herself to me and kind of like tease
teasing me, like, oh you thought you knew what to
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expect because you did it the time before, but it
just kind of reminded me that, like, I have no
idea what this molecule or whatever is capable of. So
that was a part that was a really positive experience again,
you know. And then the next day I tried to
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go in again, and this is where I had I
wouldn't say a bad trip, but an unsettling experience. And
that's kind of what I want to talk to you about.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Did you did it a third time?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You said, yes, yes, I've done a couple of times
after that, but I didn't take as much, so I
didn't go as deep and those were just kind of
like you know, psychedelic visions and kept my eyes open
the third time.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So to recap, you took it once, you saw the
outline of an entity. Then the very next day you
take it again and the entity reveals itself. It is
Alphabe from Wicked, and she is taunting you.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And then it wasn't it was it was it wasn't
her from Alpha.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It was inspired. It was it was Alphaba inspired, I think.
So yeah, now tell me about the third time.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Okay, so this is where things get weird.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And every time I work long hours, I get home
from work, I shower. I'm going to know, I'm going
to go back in. I take a shower, you know.
I mean that's the first thing I do after I
get out of work, shower and I'm in the shower,
you practice breathing and kind of getting my mind straight
and h. So this time my fiance wasn't home. I
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was just alone. But I felt comfortable enough to do
this alone.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
And and.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Uh, I was laying down. I did you know the
amount that I've been doing the two blinkers or whatever,
and I make it a point to keep my eyes open.
I guess I did it. I think I did it
twice before this time, but they're half the half of
(10:24):
the dose. Kept my eyes open, had music, and I didn't,
you know, fully break through to this other dimension. This time.
I did the full amount, no music, playing the same lighting,
you know, in my bedroom, laying on my bed looking out.
But I was told, you know, by the Di Square group,
(10:45):
you'll always keep your eyes open, So I kept my
eyes open this time. And I don't recall closing my
eyes if or when I close my eyes, And I
don't recall if or when opening my eye back up.
But I went in and this time I didn't. At first,
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I didn't see all time. I don't recall seeing a
lot of geometric patterns. I don't I didn't recall anything
like the the first two times, I did get the
ears ringing, I did get the weird sensation in my mouth,
but this time it was really dark and black, and
(11:32):
there was like almost like these tubes or lines going
in further, like further in my sight. And like I said,
I don't know if my eyes are open or closed,
but it was a really weird unset. I wouldn't say negative,
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but it was kind of unsettling, almost like a anxious
pair annoyed thing feeling. But at this entity, I was
really looking forward. I was hoping to see the entity
before because I wanted to ask what if it had
a name? You know. This time I saw a different
entity and it was humanoid and from what I remember,
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kind of had like a mummy look to it. It
was kind of creepy, and it was bouncing around these
different angles of lines, like almost like seeking around the
corner looking at me, and so you know, I felt
pretty uncomfortable, but at the same time, you know, I
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was like just breathed, this isn't forever, and it's okay.
You know, it wasn't threatening. It was just creepy. And
then when I came back, uh, you know, I had
like the cool kind of psychedelic visuals with your eyes open.
I came back, I felt I kind of felt discouraged
(12:58):
and a little sad because the experiences weren't like it
was before. I asked about it to the group and
one of the people said that, oh, you know, there's
duality and everything, and though it wasn't a very pleasant experience,
you have to appreciate it for what it was and
what it might be telling you. So I think maybe.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, that's kind of the that's kind of the motto
when it comes to intense drug experiences.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, so I think maybe it was trying to tell me,
like again, like, hey, you have no idea what you're doing,
and maybe you don't need to rush anything. You know,
this group talks about, you know, don't force anything. If
you don't feel right, don't go into it. I felt
right before I went into it, but it told you know, afterwards,
I was thinking about it, you know, like, don't rush it,
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don't don't you know, don't force yourself to go back
in there. There's no need. And so I've taken the
last few few days off from it, but I do
plan to go back in either later tonight or tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
How recently was this third DMT experience?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I was two or three days ago?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, so I think it was two days ago. So
hold on, hold on, So when did you do it?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
When?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
When did you say you did it for the very
first time?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Actually, the first time I did it was last year
and I smoked it off a lead bowl, which is
kind of a funny story. I don't think you had
time for that. But the first time I did it,
I believe I was coming off of mental health prescriptions.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So so hold on, So just iould just want to
get a timeline here, So you how many times in
the last seven days have you done DMT?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I'd say four or five, but two of those four
I believe, but two of those are the full dishes
that I took.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
All right, So you're so in the last seven days,
you've done it four times, and I think you want
to do it again tonight.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Or tomorrow whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
As let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, h.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
What are you hoping to gain from doing d m
T five times in one week.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I'm more so interested about uh learning and uh broadening
my consciousness.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
What are you trying to learn?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I'm trying to learn about reality, trying to learn about
just kind of life, what it all may mean, whatever,
I'm open whatever it has to teach me.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Well, okay, can I can I offer you? Well, but
I here's I'm because I'm open minded. But can I
offer you alternative viewpoints as well as for other questions?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Okay. I think if you're trying to learn about reality,
inducing yourself constantly in a world of hallucinations is the opposite.
I want to learn about reality. Just go outside and
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take a walk and real, you know, because if you
take if you take a drug, it's gonna make you
hallucinate that you are seeing al for but from wicked
and she's teasing you. That's not a great way. I
don't think to learn about reality. And I'm and you
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know what, there's gonna be comments on the fucking thing
that are gonna fucking be like, you don't know what
you're talking about, and all the aliens are real, and
what do you know about reality? You're a gecko, and
you know what, I'm open to that. That's fine. I
respect it. I like drugs. I like psychedelics. I think
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it's good too. I think you can take some stuff
away from them. But I don't. I just I'm I
think I'm just mildly concerned about doing d MT six
times in a six times in a row, five times
in a row, however many times in a row it is.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, So I.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Just add a certain point, what to what degree is
this going to be healing and helpful to you? Versus
like you're just hitting a lever over and over and
over again. And I don't know, I'm ignorant to that,
but I'm just I think it's worth bringing up and
talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, And I'm not dying to like escape my reality.
I'm not doing it to heal any part of myself.
I'm at a pretty decent place in my life, you know.
But I also don't plan on Ben's using this, you know,
Like I have this pen, and once the pen is gone,
(18:35):
I don't plan on getting another one for quite some time.
I just want to learn what I can from it
while I have it.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Okay, what have you so? I mean you've already done
this five times. What have you learned?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
That's a kind of a loaded question. I learned that
there's a lot more going on than what we're aware of,
like what, Like I said, it's it's kind of hard
to put into words like uh more on like a
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where we're at consciously and where we're at the cosmos almost.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
What?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Well, yeah, well, I mean yeah, yeah, we're we're part
of a we're on a little ball that's like point
zero zero zero zero percent of infinity. Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yes, and you know all the things going on like
ah in the US, it kind of fascinates me.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
But yeah, all right, I'm gonna take some questions from
the chat. Is that cool?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah? I'd love to hear from the chat.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
All right, cool, all right, you don't have to you
don't have to look at the chat though, I'll just
I'll read the questions for you. Has any questions here?
Let's see, Uh well, someone said, oh yeah, okay, uh
someone asked, what's your favorite McDonald's order? We can you
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can answer that, while more well, some real questions come in.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
My favorite McDonald's order, probably I'm almost really hungry when
I get McDonald's. We'll probably a quarter pound double quarter
pound or cheese and my snager a couple of chicken
nuggets from my fiance with the diet coke, always die coke.
I'm a part of the diet coke cult.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, oh yeah, I'm a big die coke mf. Someone
wants to know what is this discord group? Although if
you say it and it goes on this podcast, it
might get flooded.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, I'm not allowed to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Uh. Someone asked, have you ever done d MT?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I mean we're just talking about that.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Then someone asked, how are you learning about reality from
drugs and not going and not from going out and
experiencing things.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I think I've learned quite a bit about reality by
going out doing I'm a very active person. I have
a lot of social interactions every day of the week. So,
like I said, I think I'm learning more about perceived reality.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
What I believe, I believe. I believe. I believe you
on that. I don't. I don't think you're a basement dweller.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, no, no at all.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Someone said, do you think your desire to learn more
about reality comes from a fear of your own perceived reality? U?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
No, I don't. I don't. I don't fear my perceived
reality at all. Someone said, I was just saying, I'm
very curious about, uh more of what I see. You know,
I'm on a cosmos level almost.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
You know. Someone said, do you think reality is real?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Do I think reality is real? That's a good question,
especially I don't know if you've heard. I'm sure you
have the whole simulation theory. I've been learning up about
that and that blows my mind. But I don't know, man,
I don't think we're meant to know.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Someone asked if you've ever seen the movie I Robot,
and if you have, if it's good.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I have seen I Robot, but not in a long time. Yeah.
I think it was a good movie from what I remember.
I think it would be very dangerous to resimulate what's
going on in that movie.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Someone asked what your greatest fear is.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
My greatest fear probably dying alone with my loved ones present.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Do you mean dying alone without your loved ones present?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Well.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I lost my father to cancer, and he didn't have
much support in the last few months of his life,
So I don't know. But fear is a kind of
a weird idea for me, because I don't think I
necessarily fear moving on. I guess I have more so
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fear about doing it alone before I move on.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Someone said, what does the missus think of all these
reality learning experiences you are going on?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
What does the missus think about it? She she's sitting
right next to me, and you want to talk to her?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Sure, yeah, we can get her answer to that question. Hi,
mister ghetto, Hey, what's up? How's life? What's your name?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I'm uh z z z.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
What do you think of all this d What do
you think of at this D M T stuff going on?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I think it's cool. I mean as a a little
bit with him, but I only do like one puff
and I just get like visuals and it's really cool.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Are you afraid that he'll lose his mind?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I have pretty bad anxiety, so I have, like I
always think of the worst case scenarios. So whenever he
goes in, I'm kind of like hyper hyper vigilant about
like his breathing and how he's acting. So I always
feel like a breath of relief when he comes back
and he's normal.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
So when he comes back and he's normal, and then
he okay. So when he comes back and he's normal,
and then he's like, Hey, I'm gonna do this again.
Are you like? Are you like? Does that make you
nervous too?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
A little bit?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
But now that he's done it a couple of times,
it's like, I'm getting used to it.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I guess would you ever do it with him?
Speaker 6 (25:56):
Like go all in?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I don't know because I have quite a bit of
like mental health issues. So, and I'm also on SSRIs
and it's not really recommended to be doing drugs anyway.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
On that, someone asked are cats birds? I don't. You
don't have to answer that. So what do you what?
I want to know? What's who is? Who are you guys?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
What's your life?
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Like?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
What do you guys do? How old are you guys?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Where So I'm in my late twenties, he's in his
early thirties.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
What do you guys do with your lives?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
I do like customer service and he is like blue collar?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
It's pretty cool. What do you what's uh? What's what's
your guys' dream? What do you what's your dream in life?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
My dream is to open up a restaurant or a
coffee shop.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
One day.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I think coffee and food really brings people together. And
something that's really important to me is like community.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
What's his dream is it? Is it involved doing more DMD.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Doing more DMPT. He's figuring it out.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
That's cool.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I think. I think I think Flex really lives live
day to day and I think I think that living
is for living, like just experiencing every day doing the
best you can.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, I'm on that wave now. I've always been a
big planner and a big like what's going on this
year and that year? And I actually I think that's good.
But I think you gotta have you gotta have a
good ratio of vaguely planning and then attempting to actually
just live each day so that you're not constantly anxious.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Can I can I talk to what's what's his name? Again?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Flex?
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Can I talk to Flex again?
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Here he is?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
So get what?
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well, did you have fun? Did you have fun having
this conversation?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah? I've been trying to get through to you, man,
I've been trying to get few to you, through to
you for the last four or five months or so,
and you know, each each time, I'm like, oh, what
do I want to what do I want to tell
him this time? And so uh, you know, there's one
point where I was like, oh, I wanted to tell
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you about how I broke free of addiction and how
me and my partner both did that, and how we
came back together. I've wanted to give you my my
my love story with fiance. I wanted to tell you
(29:05):
some of the worst tender dates I've had, possible or
almost died. There's been a few different things, but I
think this is the one I wanted to reach you with.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You know, you seem like you lived quite a life
so far, flex and look at and look at you.
You've got so much more life left to live. It's
pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, definitely. I mean I've been to some really little
places in my life, especially the last couple of years.
But since me and my partner got clean and sober,
you know, my life has just gotten so much better.
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I found a career, I went to school, I'm financially stable,
and I would have never imagined doing this while I
was using.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
So well, it sounds like it sounds like now, I
guess you can do all the dmto that you want,
maybe not that much, maybe not that much. Dmpty. Maybe
not maybe not that much dmpty, but.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, I mean I don't have a desire to do
it long term and extensively. Like I said, I'm just
trying to take as much of what I can out
of this cart I have right now.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
You know, Flux, is there anything else you want to
say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Thanks for all for listening and saying some crazy stuff
in the chat about me that I didn't read. And
you know, if you're struggling with addiction, there is light
at the end of the tunnel and you can accomplish
things that you never think you could before.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Thank you, Flux. Have a good rest of the day
and a good rest of your life. And uh, you know,
glad to have you here in reality for as long
as you desire to be here.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Hey, I'll be here till my last breath.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Take care, Flux, you do bye? I would I would
consider doing d MT. I don't know. I don't know
how I feel about psychedelic drugs anymore. Like I've done
mushrooms a bunch and that's nice, but uh, I've really
not to This isn't anything reflective of the caller, but
(31:37):
I've really kind of given up on the idea of
the epiphany, you know, because this it just I've always
felt like this idea that you do like DMT or
ayahuasca or mushrooms. Granted I've never done d MT or ahuasca.
(31:57):
I've done mushrooms and I've done acid. And the idea
that you do a drug and you come to an
epiphany and it changes your life, I always I always
felt like that was bullshit, because you don't. All the
epiphanies that I've come to in my life have been
as a result of like years of stuff, years of
(32:23):
operating in a certain way, and like the are like
epiphanies are gradual things that come to you after years
of life experience, and I don't. That's just one of
the things I think I've learned is that they don't
the idea that I used to have, like I'm gonna
do a drug and it's gonna change my life maybe
(32:46):
I you know what I I And that's just for me.
If you've had a drug experience that changed your life
and gave you an epiphany, and then that's awesome. And
I'm not invalidating your personal experience. I'm just talking about
for me. But yeah, I've just never felt like that.
(33:09):
It felt like it's like, for me, it felt like
it was like cheating. It's like what it's like. It's like,
it's like, of course, the idea of a drug that's
gonna magically make you change your life is incredibly appealing,
but it's just always felt like it was too good
to be true. Maybe you can go and do ayahuasca
and Brazil and come back and it's a catalyst for
(33:32):
a long term, extended change. I can see that being
a thing, But at the end of the day, it's
a lot of that shit just feels like it's like
just trying to avoid doing doing any work, which is understandable.
I don't want to do any fucking work to change
(33:53):
my life, I I but I don't think I would.
I would love to go to Brazil and do ayahuasca
and then come back and be like, oh, everything's changed
because I did, because I after I just one day,
everything changed. But I don't. I just don't think it's
that easy for anyone. Maybe it is. May if you
(34:15):
went to Brazil and you did ayahuasca and it changed
your life forever, then that's awesome and I'm so happy
to be wrong and I and if that happened to you,
I would love to change my life in one day
by doing ayahuasca. But I don't. I just I'm like
I think. I think it's like, you know, you fucking
(34:35):
go to therapy for years and you try to eat healthier,
like it's all just it's like it's like it's boring,
unsexy bullshit. Ultimately that I guess led to any epiphanes
or life changes that I've had. It's like being trying
(34:56):
to be courageous in putting yourself out there and being
in uncomfortable situations and lots of writing and lots of
thinking and lots of talking and lots of living and
lots of time have kind of felt like they've led
to the epiphanies of my life. And maybe you throw
some mushrooms and some shit in there, but I don't know.
(35:18):
I'm crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Hello, Yep, how's it going man?
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yo, it's going good, It's going all right. What's your name?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
My name is Chris, Chris.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
You know it's going good. Actually I feel pretty good.
I uh like everything's gonna be fine. You know, everything
is gonna be fine. Probably the world is zoo is
a tough, unforgiving place. I don't know if everything's gonna
be fine in the world. I mean, I guess it
(35:52):
will be. I don't know. What do you think? Do
you think everything's gonna be fine?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
You know, I'm I'm looking at it a little optimistically
right now. You know, I get what you mean, though
you ain't wrong, you ain't wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Sure, but yeah, what are you optimistic about?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
You know, future prospects, you know. Uh, people, people doing things.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
People are doing things. Yeah. Yeah. I was walking around
in Target today and I was like, you know, no
matter who the president is or what's going on, really
anywhere outside of this target, inside of this target, there's
just there's just motherfuckers walking around Target.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You know, you know that's fucking real.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
There's a guy, some some lady is looking at the
back of a shampoo bottle and deciding if she's gonna
buy it. There's a kid running around like you know, life,
Life keeps going, Life keeps going. Uh. That's a simplistic
way of looking at stuff. But you know what, I
think we've maybe we've had enough complex ways of looking
(37:09):
at stuff, and maybe we should have a simplistic way
of looking at stuff. Every now and then. I don't
know anyway, you know anyway that'd be nice. Yeah, and
you know what's up with you? Chris? What? How? How
what you called me on the phone today And I'm
curious why?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah. So there is there's one big thing and like
one small thing that's before that. Okay, uh so yeah,
I'd say, I suppose we can call for or you
can start off with the with the small thing. So
(37:46):
first and foremost, I didn't anticipate being as nervous as
I was to take this call.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You're doing great, So I say, this is my new
thing that I say now is I just I want
you to know and I want you to understand it,
and I want you to internalize that this phone call
is one of the least important things you will ever
do in your entire life. So the stakes are very low.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
That is incredibly fair. So truth be told, I've called
in before. I think it's God has been like two
three months, probably two three months. Oh yeah, yeah, this
was the dude who called in about two three months
ago about like art college and and like talked about
(38:35):
like how I left it and and sh it's been weird.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
So oh okay, I think I don't. I don't think
I put that in the podcast.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, which like no sweat, no pressure, man, uh you know,
but uh yeah, I figured I've my my thought process
has I suppose like changed a bit. So I ran
into a bit of a dilemma and I wanted to
(39:07):
get your your opinion on it, because you are you.
You're a type of dude that I've heard before we
talk about like, you know, if you really want to
do something, to do it, don't let that talk you
all that, sure, but but there's a bit more that
goes into it rather than just like, oh, this is
the one thing I want to do.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Well, listen, listen, listen, listen, tell me the small thing.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
No, the small thing was just the previous call in
and that oh writer ship, my bad. Yeah, the small
thing was I called in before. And it's weird to
say this about like talking about your feelings, but I
feel like I kind of bombed.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Again again again. This is the least important thing. This
is the ranks among the top ten least important things
you will do in your life. You will take shits
and cook eggs that are more important than this phone
call right now. So okay, So there was so what's
(40:12):
the thing, what's the big thing?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
The big thing is so going short and sweet of
it and then context later, short and suite of it is.
I don't know if I want to continue doing art
or if I want to do something else, like I
don't know, computer science or engineering or something like that.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Okay, so you said so you said you were like,
you're a kind of guy who's like, if you want
to do something, just do it. And I'm generally a
supporter of that, even though it's I guess hard to
decide what you want to do. But if you have
an inkling of an idea of a thing that you
might want to do, you might as well try it.
(40:54):
So what's the thing that you want to try and do.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Well? I mean, I like I like tinkering, the stuff
I like doing, like doing playing around with like pecking
ship like that, and coding and all that. So I've
been thinking about doing that, but I still love art.
You know, Art is still something I want to do.
You know, it's just because of Art College. They've it
(41:22):
showed me that, like, hey, this is probably what the
industry is going to look like. And I was like, well, shit,
I don't know if I'm going to enjoy that and so,
but another part of me is like, well, maybe maybe
I'm wrong in that the school was just ass. So
I'm kind of going back and forth between that and
(41:45):
saying like, well, if I could always just do something
like coding or engineering or whatever and then have art
still be something just I do on the side.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Let me let me, let me, let me tell you.
Let me tell you something. It is perfectly legitimate, if
not even for a lot of people, optimal of a
strategy to have what you do for a living to
make money so that you can sleep in a place
(42:16):
and eat food, to be a different thing than the
thing that you do for personal fulfillment, enjoy and enjoyment.
That is not only a perfectly legitimate way to live life,
it is for some people in some lifestyles, and an
optimal way to live life. So if you just fucking
like making art and you would do it for zero
(42:40):
dollars in your free time because you just fucking like
doing it, then you know, keep doing it. If you're
really committed and determined then you want to make a
career out of it, then I think that's a worthwhile
pursuit as well. But if you're sitting here, like, I
don't really like where this industry is going, and I
don't really think I want to go down the path
(43:00):
that would be required for me to do art as
a living, and so let me just get into coding
and I'll do my art at night when I have time,
as a perfectly legitimate way to live life. So that
that's really my opinion on the matter.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
I could see that I get what you're putting down.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, because also I mean nothing. I just say, you know,
nothing's gonna make you hate your hobby more than having
to do it for a living. But some people like
that it's really just how you're wired. Some people are
like I take a strong identity in like what I
do for money is my you know what, my art
(43:42):
is my profession and blah blah blah. And that's a
legitimate way to live too. But you know it's either way.
Don't freak yourself out about it.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
I getcha. I getcha.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Well, Chris, yeah, do you feel like you do? You go?
You go ahead.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
There was a very important question I wanted to add
on to this. Okay, So so my question is, you
know you're you're a man that talks about food with
the people, and there's been a question that's on on
my mind.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Go ahead, what.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
What's your least fast food the least favorite fast food place.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Oh, that's a really great question. Let me think, Let
me think. Oh, man, you're putting me on the spot here.
I'm gonna go I don't like Wendy's. I'm not a
big Wendy's guy. And less if they want to sponsor me,
then I'm a big Wendy's guy. But no, I don't
like Wendy's. Oh I don't know if okay, fuck these people.
(44:45):
Even if they want to sponsor me, I don't know
if this counts as fast food. I'm gonna say it
kind of does. Maybe. I fucking hate Starbucks with a passion.
I hate Starbucks with a passion. Dunkin Donuts all the way,
Tim Hortons all the way. Starbucks overpriced, shitty coffee, zero
(45:09):
food options, and the food options they have are are
dainty and peteete and overpriced and gross and and and
they're everywhere and everywhere you go in the morning, there's
lines and huge lines for this fucking shitty, overpriced coffee.
And it's it's disgusting to see, so shout out Dunkin Donuts,
(45:32):
shout out Tim Hortons. Both fantastic brands. Love I mean
Tim tim Hortons takes the cake when it comes to
the on on on this thing because Tim Hortons, They've
got great variety of sweet products. Like if you want
to go there and you're feeling if you're feeling crazy,
Tim Hortons has got you on like a Nattella eminem
(45:54):
donut and a frosted milkshake fucking thing. But also if
you're like I'm just want to get some lunch and
eat a normal thing, and you want to get like
a chicken Caesar wrap and a normal coffee, they got
you on that too, and it's and it's the price
is great, even even in fucking Canadian dollars, the price
(46:15):
is great. So shout out Tim Horton's. Unfortunately not big
around them. I think they're big in like Northern They're
like I think they've got Tim Horton's in like Seattle
or Washington, but uh, it's unfortunately not a big American thing.
Duncan Donuts, I'll give it to they have some great uh,
(46:38):
like the snack wraps are good, the bagel every time
I get like a bagel, bagel, egg and cheese sandwich
is good because when I try to get a bacon,
a baked egg and cheese at the fucking Starbucks, it's
like an It's like a dainty, dainty English muffin the
size of a fucking quarter and it's like seven dollars
(46:59):
and so fuck fuck the Starbucks people. So that's that's
my long winded answer to your question.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
You know what, though, do they do they have Tim
Horton's in like California Because I have never been, I.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Don't think they do. I don't think they do. I
think if they would have expanded that far beyond Canada,
they would have. Uh what, there's Dutch Brothers, which I'm
not super familiar on. I know they have that in Arizona.
They have a Delicious They have delicious stuff, like yeah,
(47:37):
what's Randy's.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Randy's is like this, uh I hope I'm remembering it right.
It's this donut place in La oh yeah. And and
it's like it's known for the big, the big fucking
donut that it has as its sign. And they do
weird ship they do like they do I've seen and
(48:00):
like bacon and marshmallow donuts. I've seen fruity pebble donuts.
I've seen I've seen trying to think of what else
they have like they had. I saw one that was
practically a cake, but it was in fact a donut.
(48:21):
That ship's good.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Well, Chris, do you feel like this call went better? Yeah? Yeah,
I'll probably I'm probably gonna put this in the podcast
this time.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
God, God bless you, God bless you.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Is there anything else you want to say to the
people of the computer.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah, man, guys, you know, keep it sleazy, and you
that one individual who's who's listening and or watching with this.
Stop fucking procrastinating. I know, I know what you gotta do.
Fucking stop procrastinating.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Do it?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Take care, Chris, you two get I'm trying to think
what else is on my list of worst fast food brands?
I'm gonna go. I mean, you know, Wendy's. I think
you know what it is is back in high school,
I just had a bad Wendy's experience and I really
(49:19):
haven't had it since. What else is there? And the
fact that I don't like I really I like. I
love I love Burger King. I love that they give
you a nice, big like The Whopper is a big
It's a real fucking burger. The McDonald's burgers can be
a little dainty at times, but you know, I'm not.
I'm not gonna throw any shade at McDonald's. I'm a
(49:39):
McDonald's guy. What I can only there's stuff that I like.
You know what I gotta I gotta have jolly b
I've never I han't had jolly be in a while.
I'm really trying to think, like Subways fine, the only Yeah,
Starbucks is just the only one that came up when
(49:59):
I was thinking of like fast food brands that I
have a strong distain for because they're just trying to
be cool. I just hate when when places like that
are trying to be cool and just up charging you
for fucking nothing but shout out Tim Horton's those guys rock.
Speaker 5 (50:20):
Hello, Hi, Hi, Hi, Hello.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Hi, Hello Hi. What's your name? What's your name?
Speaker 5 (50:27):
Are we gonna? Can we start this over? What?
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Can we?
Speaker 5 (50:31):
Can we start this over?
Speaker 2 (50:32):
No? We have to do. What's your name?
Speaker 5 (50:35):
My name is Fenn. I am in California and I wasn't.
I don't really have anything I want to talk about
in specifics. I'm open to questions. I don't know, maybe
I could ask you questions. Been a fan for a minute.
I am a fan of men, and I am a
(50:56):
furry and I live in California.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
What have we ever spoken before?
Speaker 5 (51:03):
Never? Once?
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Okay, you're a fan of and you're a fan of?
Like yeah, like you're you just have guys that you're
a fan of, or you're like, are you trying to
say that you're sexually attracted to men?
Speaker 5 (51:16):
Both?
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Okay? What what men are you a fan of?
Speaker 3 (51:22):
Ooh?
Speaker 5 (51:25):
Just one right now? But if I had the opportunity,
I think Bowser from Super Mario is pretty pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
I don't know. I feel like having his tail in
your ass would hurt because he's got the spikes on him.
Speaker 5 (51:39):
No, no, no, we're not going for tails.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
No no, well he doesn't have a penis, so you
couldn't just the way he doesn't, you know.
Speaker 5 (51:48):
Fun fact, Nintendo took down a three D art of
just what someone thought his dick would look like. They
took it down for being like a copyright thing.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
So I feel like he does canonic. Look here's the
thing you can go yes, sure you can go on
Divian art or whatever. The fucking twenty twenty four equivalent
of Dvian art is. And you can find plenty of
pictures of Bowser with a huge penis, but canonically, the
creator of Bowser, Shagiro Miamoto, has never once had Bowser
(52:26):
with a big, giant cock. And but the.
Speaker 7 (52:28):
Really, but why I said the tail is because it's close,
because in Super Mario sixty in sixty, in Super Mario
sixty four, you beat Bowser by swinging him by the
cock and throwing him off, and you go so long,
gay Bowser.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Right there's there, he goes so long, gay Bowser. And
so that's you know, that's maybe maybe you're that that
is this is the closest you will see to Bowser
and Mario having gay. And that is the end of
this part of this conversation. What did you do today?
Speaker 5 (53:04):
It sounds good today. I woke up, I woke up,
I checked my unemployment benefits and I hunted for six jobs.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
What six job? What kind of job are you trying to?
What kind of job are you trying to get?
Speaker 1 (53:20):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (53:21):
God, anything but what I did last time, which was
security at a hospital.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Oh no, so you do security.
Speaker 5 (53:30):
I'm trying not to. I'm trying to actually get something different,
really anything, honestly.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Did you have any like physical encounters with people?
Speaker 5 (53:40):
Yes? Yes, that was the job. What kind of I watched?
I watched people with mental issues, be that violent tendencies,
or they didn't want to live anymore, so I had
to prevent them from succeeding in stopping living.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
That's a crazy job. What kind of job are you
applying for now?
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (54:07):
Fucking movie theater McDonald's whatever.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
That's not bad. How old are you?
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (54:13):
Just anything? I am twenty two.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
Okay, that's not bad. Working in the movie theater, you know,
popcorn anything?
Speaker 5 (54:20):
Anything?
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Yeah? Okay, Well, do I have any more questions for you?
You said you had questions for me. I'll take a
question or two.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Oh we go.
Speaker 5 (54:34):
This is when you've been asked probably once before, but
why not? Like?
Speaker 1 (54:39):
Is it is?
Speaker 2 (54:39):
The next ques? Next question? The next question, The next question,
next question, next question, next question?
Speaker 5 (54:44):
What's your next question? Favorite soda type?
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Ooh, that's a great question. I I'm a big fan. Well,
it depends on the time of day, because right before
I hopped on here, I drank a can of diet
mountain Dew, which is delicious and has a lot of caffeine.
It's got like the cans got fifty four mgs and
the bottles got ninety one ninety one grams of caffeine.
(55:09):
It's pretty good. But at night time, if I'm a
little sleepy boy, I like a diet am W. It's
got a great taste and no caffeine. It's hard at
night because you know what I was doing at night
is I was slamming back diet sun Kissed because I
didn't realize it. I didn't realize I thought it was
(55:31):
caffeine free, and then I looked at the fucking label
and apparently it's got twenty nine MG's in there, which
I didn't think, which you know, is not that bad,
but it's enough.
Speaker 5 (55:44):
You ever get around to try and coffee coke?
Speaker 2 (55:46):
What is called?
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (55:48):
Holy shit?
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (55:49):
Did I talk about coffee coke ones?
Speaker 5 (55:53):
Yeah? Fuck yeah. I just I'm sad that it's gone.
It was my favorite thing.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
Holy shit, Yes, I you, Oh my god, you just
blew my mind. I used to be not obsessed with
coffee coke, but I used to really want to try it.
I remember coffee coke. Yeah, it's a real disgusting invent invention.
I think you put like I think they put like
cream and sugar in there to this cream sugar, coffee
(56:18):
and coke. Who the fuck is drinking that?
Speaker 1 (56:23):
This guy?
Speaker 5 (56:23):
I fucking loved it.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
It was good.
Speaker 5 (56:25):
I didn't like any other flavor, but like the very
dark roast one. Does it actually taste of like coffee?
Speaker 1 (56:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (56:34):
That's it's really good. It's just really good. Well, thank
you for bringing me a blast to the bath. Let
me leave you with this. Give a shot to the bowser, No,
give a shot to the Oreo flavored Coca cola. It's
really gross. It's gross. It is both there. Both the
(56:55):
Oreo flavored Coca Cola and the Coca cola flavored Oreos
are disgusting. But you should try them if you have
nothing else to do with your life.
Speaker 5 (57:05):
Well, thank you for your time, while I'll let you go.
I hope you have a wonderful stream.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
Hey, you too, take care of Finn later. Hello. Hello, Hi,
what's your name?
Speaker 6 (57:18):
I'm Frankie frank and I'm from Germany.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
Frankie from Germany, Germany. I was in Germany recently. It's
an interesting country. It's very uh, people are very cold there,
I've noticed.
Speaker 6 (57:36):
Yes, I don't know. I guess it's some type of
defense mechanism.
Speaker 2 (57:42):
Maybe, Well, Frankie, what can I do you for? How's life?
Sorry to just shit on your people and then open
with that, but I guess I can't. I can't really
take that back. What's up?
Speaker 6 (57:54):
No, I've hurt the love worse. Actually it's fine.
Speaker 3 (58:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (58:02):
I'm just I don't know, really, I don't know what's
going on in my head. I'm I'm thinking a lot recently,
and I started writing a zombie movie because I've been
watching The Walking Dead and I actually just watched an
episode where some group kills a bunch of people and
puts their heads on sticks, and I don't know, I
(58:27):
don't know. It just seems pointless to kill like fifteen
people at a time. But I think it's bad writing
towards the end of the show.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
So it's okay, you.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
Say, thinking a lot, What have you been thinking about?
Speaker 6 (58:46):
I go to university right now and I'm starting philosophy
and French, but it all seems kind of pointless. And
I'm trying to get into a school a few hours
away for interior design, but I don't really know if
I want to do that, So I've been thinking what
(59:10):
I want to do with my life. But yeah, I
don't know if I should even be thinking or if
I should be like out in the world, you know.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
I would say, I mean, I feel like life is
a combination of being out in the world and thinking.
There's a there's a nice ratio. There's a nice ratio
to be thinking and being out in the world to do.
But I if I had to make a guess on
what the optimal ratio of thinking versus being out in
the world with, I'm gonna err on the side of
being out in the world. I'm gonna go twenty percent
(59:42):
thinking eighty percent being out in the world. That's my
that's my that's my ratio, not my ratio. My ratio
is a lot of thinking and a lot of nothing else.
But yeah, I think that's probably a good ratio. What
(01:00:06):
are you out in the world doing?
Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
I don't know. I was on I went on a
pretty big vacation this year because I've finished high school.
And then I went and drove through a couple of
European countries with my boyfriend, which was really great and
we did like some work and travel and I'm thinking
(01:00:32):
about going farther away because I've only ever been in
Europe and being home is kind of depressing at this
time of year because I don't know. There's not much
to do or see, and i'd like to go somewhere
on my own, but I don't have a license, so
(01:00:53):
I would have to go somewhere that's like I don't
know connected you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Know, sure, sure, sure, sure, or I have to or.
Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
I have to get my license, but I don't know.
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
You don't want to get your license.
Speaker 6 (01:01:16):
No, I want to be I want to be forty
and not be able to drive a car. I feel
like not many people do that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Want to be forty and not able to drive a car.
Speaker 6 (01:01:31):
You're kind of how old are you now?
Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
I'm twenty, okay, So just want to sit in a
room for twenty years and eat food occasionally when you
need to, and then you'll you'll be forty in twenty years.
Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
Yes, and I'd like to be forty year old virgin
or like a teen mom or whatever. But that train
has passed, so you'll have to be a forty year
old without a driver's license.
Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
I guess what's your name again, Frankie Franka franca Frankie,
the Franco very nice, very nice? Is Is there anything
else you want to say to the people of the
computer before we go? Franco?
Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
I guess not.
Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Is there anything else that I can do to make
your experience on the phone lines today any better?
Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Mmmm?
Speaker 6 (01:02:44):
Read my book when it comes out. I don't know
what it's going to be called.
Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
How do we read your book?
Speaker 6 (01:02:52):
It's going to be about zombies. That's all I can
say for now, Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Or how do we or is it just like an idea?
Is it is? Or is there a way that we
can read your book?
Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
Maybe I could come up with a name right now,
you come up.
Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
With a come up with a name, and then in
two years we'll google it and we'll find it that way.
Speaker 6 (01:03:21):
Okay, how about how about how about should happens?
Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
I like that? Thank you, Frankie?
Speaker 6 (01:03:33):
Okay, thank you?
Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Bye bye bye. Never weekend goes on the line, think
your phone calls every night? Ever goes? I'm just teaching
you a loud in your line
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Lyle Drescher
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