“I WAS ON A JAPANESE TV SHOW WITH MY DENTIST’S COUSIN”

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, folks, real quick. I announced a live show in Tokyo,
Japan like a week or so ago, and it sold
out pretty fast, so I added a second one on Saturday,
February twenty second at three pm. It's a matinee show.
And if you live in Tokyo, Japan, which is probably

(00:22):
maybe like three of you, you can get tickets for
this Tokyo live show at the link in the episode description.
That's all I wanted to say. Thank you. Let's get
into the episode. Hello, hello, is what what do you mean?
Who is this? You called me?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, I mean didn't, but this is what the fuck? Wait?
This is crazy? Is this probably the actual mister? No?
I know, I know, don't get me wrong, I know,
but this is like I didn't I expect you actually
to answer. What the hell?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Hold on? Just stop, stop for a second. You called yeah,
this first of all to my favorite and held on
first of all to me a favorite. And we don't
actually have to cut this part out of the podcast,
but this could be in the podcast. But I can
you take me off? Can you take me off a speakerphone?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
No, I have my headphones in.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh, take me off of your headphones and just put
me right in, the take me off of headphones, and
just hold the phone up to your OKA.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Is that better?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, it's better. We're gonna keep I Normally I asked
people to do that and I cut it out of
the show, but we're gonna keep it in. Yeah this time.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Okay, okay, all right, yeah, no, no, it's just that's good.
I didn't I know that. This is now I understand
why people when they call in and they're all like flustered.
It's like, damn actually getting in on the mister therapy gecko.
That's crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Are you? And again I normally I cut these audio
checks out, but we're going to keep them in. Are
you you're are you yelling? Because I'm looking at your
audio and it's all red. It's all all the bars
are red right now?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Okay, okay, maybe I should lower it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
No, no, no, you're good. Now, you're good. You're good. You're good.
That's okay, just just now you calmed down a little bit.
What's your name?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Okay, okay, uh uh Andrew Andrew, Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, I'm doing I'm doing all right. I got just
hopped on the uh the little treadmill that I got
in here. Calm me down a little bit. Just got
back from run club. Usually don't do that kind of thing,
but uh yeah, no I'm not. I'm doing okay, thanks
for asking. How about you, Lyle? How are you doing?
I mean therapycause I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
How do you want me to refer to you anything?
Anything doesn't matter?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Okay, Yeah, how you doing?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I'm doing all right, man, I'm doing. Yeah, I'm fine.
I'm okay, I'm uh I feel okay, that's a lie.
I'm depressed. That's what I'm just go Yeah, I'm all
the time. I've been depressed. I've been depressed for years
and years, and I think it's I've accepted it as

(03:00):
a constant of my life. I think I'm pretty close, though,
hold on stuff, I'm really I'm really close to figuring
it out, you know, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Go ahead, go. I was gonna say something because I
feel like during the whole quarantine and the whole like
COVID bullshit, Like during the beginning, like okay, I didn't
think I realized I was depressed, but like towards the
end of it, I got really depressed, like I just
developed an eating disorder. Like every day was becoming the
same old, same old thing day and day out, just

(03:32):
lay on the ground be like, damn, what the fuck
am I even doing with my life? What am I?
What am I even? Like I'm in school, I'm not
even doing this thing because I even want to do it.
And like, yeah, like you know you feel it, but
but you mentioned how you're like on the verge of
like cause I think it's like logically, you feel like
you understand how to get out of the depression loop,
but now it's more so like like trying to you know,

(03:54):
the actual experiential feeling of getting out of that, right.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, yeah, I've been thinking about that. This is my
little and by the way, hold on, this is like
this is like a I feel like this is like
a like an alpha male talking point that I've come to.
But I'm gonna yeah a little bit, but it's it's
a hypothesis that I'm thinking about, and it's a it's

(04:19):
a funny hypothesis. It's a funny hypothesis because it runs
in absolute utter contrast to what I like, what my
whole thing is. I guess, I think, I think, And again,
nothing I say on this show is etched in stone.
If you ever call me and you're like, hey, remember

(04:40):
three years ago.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
This is all becoming and all in flux.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Everything is in total, everything's in total flex. Okay, there
we go. You're on You're you're on the same level.
And to share this with you, I I I actually
I'm playing around with a hypothesis. It's a new hypothesis
I have. I think talking I think talking about your
problems might make them worse. Is that insane to think?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I think, I think I would agree with you? What
what what makes you think? What makes you think that?
Because I would agree with you. I would agree with.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
You because like if you're always talking to your friends
and your family and about the end of the internet
into if you're just always talking about your problems, right,
you just you like center that you like reinforce, like
like I've I've over the years, I think, like you know,
you build like narratives in your head about yourself the world.

(05:31):
And if you're if you're always talking like, oh I'm
so depressed the narrative that and this is just me,
I guess because I'm like, oh, I'm like building I'm
building a story about myself. I'm building a narrative about
myself that I am just a depressed guy, and I
think I've walked myself into that rut by constantly telling

(05:53):
myself that that's the story, is that I'm a depressed guy.
Whereas like if I were like, whereas if I were,
I constantly like, oh, how can I? How can I?
How do I do something about my problems? Right? Like
what do I like? Like I'm a solvere or I
don't know if I am a solver, but I want
to be a solver. I want to be a solver.
I want to be like, hey, Okay, I have this problem,
let me fix it. Because if I just talk about

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it in fucking circles, I'm just gonna keep reinforcing it.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
They're locking yourself into that story, right.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, you're locking narrative.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I would totally agree
with you on that, yeah, because it's like almost yeah,
it's it's it's a feedback loop almost, you know, like
how it almost yeah? Yeah, you start building this narrative
about who you are and what you do, and like
it's you know, if I'm constantly depressed, and it's like
you locked yourself into that. That's kind of how I
felt with the whole quarantine COVID COVID thing or whatever

(06:47):
was until I went to Japan and then came back
and I was like, like, damn, I can actually do shit,
but yeah, I know, yeah yeah. And the other thing
too is I think there's don't don't quote me up
or whatever. Some some psychiatrist dude or some ship said like,
you know, the the key and like the speaking region
and the region of like actual action are kind of
highly highly connected. So when you speak a problem, it's

(07:09):
almost like you're acting like I guess an analogy I
would draw would be like, you know, you talk to
your friends about I'm going to be a doctor, I'm
gonna be this, or I'm gonna do some shit, but
then it's kind of like, well, you know, it's it's
it's like you almost did the actions. Now you don't
even want to pursue doing thing because you already said
and told and bloviated on and on and on about
that kind of shit. So I feel like it's a
little bit along those lines, but yours sounds more of

(07:30):
like a you know, narrative, narrativizing, almost reinforcing to yourself
who you are right right, constantly talking about that, right.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, well before we go any hold on, before I'm
I'm by the way, I just say, you just you know,
I'm really enjoying having this conversation with you, but I
just not that we got Yeah, I just I just
want to pause for a second. Are you still running
on the treadmill because you sound like you're still running
on the s treadmill.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, I am running on the treadmill and trying to
get a little bit of the I'll slow it down.
I'm not running, I'm kind of walking. I got you know,
I got the I'm a little neuro diversion. It got
there is not an excuse. Actually hate that. I don't
want to be using excuses. This is the tool that
I use. I hate that ship. I don't like the
It's it's a bad excuse. I'm not trying to excuse anything.
I hate that ship. But but I do it because

(08:18):
it just helps me. You know, I've got my mind
is my body is moving, and so now I feel
like it's a little bit of sub stimulation in order
to get me to where I'm now focusing and not
all you know, crazy, But would you like me to
like lower that or whatever or you.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
I don't care. No, I don't care, man, I'm just
be yourself. I just us I was concerned about you.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Cool. No, I'm all good now, I'm I'm leveling out
a little bit. I should put that on my somewhere,
on my in my room somewhere. Just be yourself. That's
a that's a good hallmark quote. Is a therapy that one?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
I like that one. I like that one.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
But like there's a lot of it is funny as
the as the therapy gecko to be Like, I think
talking about your problems makes up there's you know what,
you know what it is, Here's here's the thing is.
I think it's one of those things where it's like
everything in moderation, like there's a zone, like there's an

(09:14):
optimal zone of talking about your problems and there's an
optimal zone of it. But at a certain point, talking
about your problems too much becomes a little bit masturbatory
and you and then again it just creates the fucking.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah. But at some point you just kind of like
you gotta just shut up and just keep it in
your brain and then just act out what you need
to do, right, You just gotta you know, be the
man of action. You know, you've been tinkering too long
of just thinking about things being two in your head.
You've been lost in the sauce. Dude, you gotta get
out and go out and do some ship, you know.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, yeah, like the whole, like like the whole, I guess,
like toxic masculinity thing of like don't talk about your
problems and don't whatever, like I think, like like put
a dash of that in there, you know, not like right,
if you never talk about your problems with anyone and

(10:16):
you keep it all inside, something's gonna fester and it's
not going to be and it's gonna come out. It's
gonna come out in other evil crazy yeah, it because
it comes out in other evil ways. But like also,
if you're all constantly running, ruminating on everything, you know,
everything is everything. There's there's some optimal way to be

(10:38):
a human being. I haven't figured it out, but I'm
thinking I've been theory crafting it and maybe I'll figure
it out.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Hey, look, at least you're in you're in the becoming stage.
You're in the becoming stage, right, You're looking to get
yourself out of this damn hold is damn right that
you're in right, sure, and maybe who knows. Maybe Again,
that's the thing. I don't think there's any think you
can even think your way out of being depressed. It's
just kind of you.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
You can't you damn choir.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
You probably already know what you can.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, well you know what you know. But you know
what's so stupid, Andrew. You know what's so stupid is
is yes, a lot. You know what's so stupid, Andrew.
And I'm gonna quick what's really stupid is that? Logically
I know this, but also I do, Like on my
computer right now, I have three tabs that I've been

(11:32):
saving for at least some days, and they all have
like motivational YouTube videos on them. And I'm like, once
this motivational YouTube video, I will get my life together.
But how many you know how many fucking motivational YouTube
videos I've watched over the last decade?

Speaker 3 (11:48):
You know?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, but I've also but also I I've been thinking
about my own life today and I was like, you know,
I've been Yeah, I've been like depressed and watching motivationally
YouTube videos for at least a decade or but I
but incrementally, like when I zoom out. I did pretty okay.
I did pretty okay.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
So when you say when you say you've done pretty
okay and you zoom out, which does that sort of
mean that you've incrementally become I guess what does it mean?
Like incrementally becoming in what direction? Would you say?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well, just like if I died right now, I'm like,
I did okay. You know I got to talk to you.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Oh that is very flattering.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
I mean I got to have this conversation with you
right now, I got to look at the I got
to eat a hamburger. Everything was fine. You know, I
don't have I don't have strong regrets. I think the
basic if. I think basic human life doesn't come with anyway.

(12:59):
Here's a if, whoever you are, whoever you are, if
you were forced at this moment to exam even if
you had like a really shitty life, you could examine it,
and you could force yourself to have some kind of
perspective where your life wasn't shitty and you would be right.
Like you could like you could lay out like you

(13:19):
could have had a horror. You could be like fifty
and you just worked in like a labor camp for
now Okay, well you here, Okay. What I'm saying is
what I'm saying is look at you could look at
your life and you could go like, well, I got
to drink water a couple of times. That was pretty good,
and you wouldn't be wrong. This is insane. What's going

(13:42):
on with you? Andrew? How's your life?

Speaker 3 (13:43):
No, but real I will I will answer that question.
I just want to say, I think I feel like
the understand what you're saying in terms of the like
it is in some sense you know how you you know,
there's a whole fucking mindset bullshit where it's like, yeah,
your mindset, you like, mind over matter I do you know.
I like to meme about that a little bit, but
they they're is a grain of truth to that, I feel,
you know, yeah yeah yeah, like and like you mentioned, like, yeah,

(14:05):
you could live a shitty life and you know, and
and I think this will try into you know, the
circumstance I'm in right now, and I'll let you know
what you know, what's going on, but like, uh yeah, yeah,
like it's some some degree right if you keep focusing
on and and this is teetering and dangering into the
realm of toxic positivity. But you know, if you if

(14:28):
you focus too much on the negativity, then yeah, your
life is gonna be fucking shit. And if you take
the whole idea of eternal recurrence or whatever, like if
you had to live your life eternally over and over
and repeat, then that could be hell. Right, But if
you'd looked and focused on the positives and the affirmed life,
and then it's like, you know, then yeah, that you'd
made a life worth living. So it's like, in some sense,
you gotta Joe Joe JITs your mind, mind fucking fuck

(14:51):
yourself into thinking or experiencing somehow the the positives. Right,
that's kind of along the lines of what you're.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Saying, right, yeah, one hundred percent. But also here's I'm
but also but also just so you know, just so
you know, I'm well, actually I'm not. I was gonna
say I'm a hypocrite, but I'm actually not a hypocrite because.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Well it's okay to be a hypocrite, right, life is
all fucks and becoming Right, Well, okay.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
So let me let me let me throw this out here,
and I is go ahead, Yeah, is per kno los
dose because I have a strong belief. I'm like, look,
I have certain I have certain external conditions that I
desire for my life, and I am in active pursuit

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of those external conditions, and I think it's good. I
think it's good to be in active pursuit of external
conditions for your life that you believe will make you happier.
And yes, there are I think it can be true
that there are unquestionably external conditions that make your life

(15:58):
better and internal conditions that make your life better. So like,
so a TOC toxic positivity would be the dismissal of
any and all possibility for any external conditions to make
your life better. And be like, bro, one hundred percent
of it is in your mind, dude, Like just think
that life is good, yestivity, but like a little bit

(16:19):
of like, hey, you know mine, your perspective is important,
and not hating your life and occasionally going well, I
got to drink water that was pretty good, combined with
you know, let me strive better external conditions is good.
That's like some Yin and yang shit, So right yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah optimal, Yeah yeah, I would agree with you.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah yeah, you know you're eating a ship as that
if I may borrow from mister Bill Burr. You know,
you're everyone's eating a shit sandwich, right, but some people
got a little bit of sprinkles on there or something
like that, right, So if you're eating the shit sandwich,
you know you're still eating it. It sucks ass, but
at least you got a little bit of sprinkles on there.
You know.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Let's going on with you, Andrew? What's happening? What you
said you have a thing to talk about?

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah, you know, I don't know. It was just like
it's nothing too crazy, you know. You know, I was
I was dating some lady for a bit, like me,
It wasn't even that long, but I felt like I
got to know them pretty well. And you know, we
were talking for about a month month and a half,
and uh, you know, I thought like she was really interested.

(17:27):
She seemed like she was I don't know if it
was like her life is really busy. I mean like
it seemed like she was doing graduate school and had
a lot of other things going on in her life.
And there was a little bit of mancus, as Dan
Geestling would say, mancus around the uh you know, around
her responding and all that. But yeah, I just got
ghosted and that kind of sucks ass. But you know,

(17:49):
I just journaled that. I was like, yeah, this sucks ass,
But I mean, I don't know, maybe I should also
be grateful for the for the things that I have
and what I have. I at least have my body,
at least I have can run, I can go bold
and all that, and even though that sucks ass, you know,
it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
You know. Yeah, yeah, what so also.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Looking for jobs? That sucks ass too? Go ahead?

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Was this so?

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Was this a girl that you were like seeing for
a while or like, what what was the deal with her?

Speaker 3 (18:18):
No, it was just like we met on bumble and
then went on the first you know one, a couple yeah, yeah, yeah,
a couple of dates and then seeing each other and
then I think it was like after the sixth date, yeah,
and then it was like it was weird too. I
just just don't I don't know what the hell. I
just wish that, you know, I get it. It's not
easy to tell someone that, like, hey, look it is fine.

(18:39):
You know, if you're not interested, you're not fit interested,
that's okay, just let me know and you know, or
something gets in the way, that's totally okay, but like,
I just wish they would have told me, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah right, you're right. I know it sucks, it sucks,
it sucks. Yeah yeah yeah, but I don't know. Well,
I mean, I'm I'm curious about your life in general.
How old are you?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Uh, twenty seven?

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Ok?

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, just working on my server right now. I went
to university, thought I was going to do pharmacy. Then
I realized my dad that shit fucking sucks ass. I
love organic chemistry, worked in a lab that also sucked ass,
and I realized I was like, damn, why am I
even doing this shit. I'm just doing this because like
I was told to do it. And then that was
also during COVID and quarantine. I was like probably depressed

(19:28):
as shit or whatever. Then I went to Japan for
a month with my brothers, and I was like, damn,
I think it reinvigorated like some confidence in me, because
then I came back and I was like doing all
this stuff that I used to do when I was younger,
like eighteen nineteen, reading existentialist fiction all that shit that
I was and journaling too. So I feel like there's

(19:48):
a renewed like a revitalization within me.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Now, yeah, what tell me? I'm actually I'm recording this
in Japan right now? What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (20:01):
What the hell?

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, what do you do? What were you doing in
Japan for a month?

Speaker 3 (20:06):
It was crazy? I don't even know. It was the
oddest circumstances. Okay, I got a couple of stores, Lord,
go ahead, Japan. It was great. It was. It was
for a month. And thank you for letting me bloviate
on end by. By the way, I thank you. I
understand it's the whole stick, but you know, thank you still.
So basically, this is just something I always wanted to do,

(20:26):
you know. I like the anime and Mango whatever in
high school. Don't really watch that much anime anymore, you know.
And let's see, I was working Papa John for a
little bit, was saving up money here and there. Luckily
I have the fortunate of being fortunate to live with
my parents, so saving up a lot of money. And
then fucking h yeah, I just did Papa John's doing

(20:49):
side jobs here and there, saving up more money. And
then I was like, bro, let's just go to Japan, right,
And then my dentist, somehow, my dentists learned about that,
and he's Japanese and so you know, I went to
him and he put me in contact with this this older,
older lady and she's like in her seventies and she
was very you know, uh, helped us around with showing

(21:13):
you know, online or texting us information and helping us
around Japan. She wanted to help us in Japan. So
we and and and so you know, jump forward to
going to Japan. And by the way, let me know
if there's any plot holes or whatever or something just.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
So you Yeah, your your dentist hooks you up with this, Yeah,
do you hang out with Yeah? Do you hang out
with your dentist's friend in Japan? Or does she just
like text you like here's a restaurant to go to
take you around?

Speaker 3 (21:43):
So she she was just like hey, yeah, I can
just show you around. I can show you around Tokyo
like I can. Yeah, I can just help you guys around.
And yeah, we met up with her like we landed,
and she was texting us like Okay, I'm wearing this
like handkerchief and and like yeah, and then we met

(22:04):
up with her. Okay. The other thing too, is I
was studying Japanese and I'm gonna be honest right now,
Like after coming back from Japan, I haven't studied or
immersed myself any materials. So yeah, Japanese fucking ass. But
my brother, Dude, my brother's crazy. He's younger than me.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
God bless my brother.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
He just watches you know, YouTube Japanese content and you know,
so I kind of relied on him a little bit.
He was much better. I mean, my his ability was okay,
but his is better than mine. And he's like he's
ten years younger than me, so he was seventeen and so.
But the thing is, though she was so hard to understand,
maybe because like I don't know if it's because Mike,

(22:43):
I mean, I gat me he's fucking ass, but like
I don't know if it's like the dialect thing or
what because there was another dude later on we were
this is like I feel like almost got sucked up
by a cult too, And that'll be later. But like,
if that's okay with you, I would like to tell
you about the cult dude, but like at least alleged
alleged alleged cult dude. Alleged cult dude.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
In okay, you, how did you get the recording to
all right, so you all right, let me. So you
go to Japan and your dentist is like, I have
a I have a friend who can show you around,
and so you meet up with your dentist. Yeah, yeah,

(23:25):
you d you guys, So you're hanging out with your
dentist cousin, which sounds like something someone about in no
way shape before and do I think you're lying about this?
But any anytime someone uses the phrase I was hanging
out with my dentist cousin, it sounds like they're lying.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
But I mean, hey, look, I.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Don't think you're lying. I mean you, then you, then you,
then you, then you get involved in a cult.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Well okay, that's a little bit later because the reason
why I'll let you know why we kind of I
don't even know if.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
It is a cult.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
I just feel like it is. I'll lay up the
evidence and you can come to your own conclusion. But
I mean, before that, when we meet up with her,
he also mentioned like, hey, there's also like these TV
Japanese interviewers there. They'll probably interview or something. And I
was like, yeah, yeah, I mean probably, but I didn't
really think anything of it. And then you know, you know,

(24:19):
if I think about third person, like here it is
three white dudes just talking to this old elderly you know,
Japanese woman, right, and you know, they're like, damn, this
is crazy. Let's get the scoop, right, So they come
up to us and they're like, we have a Japanese
TV can we interview you? And I was like, at first,
I was like I don't know if I wanted, but
I was like, fuck it, you know what, let's just
do it. Let's take the challenge. Just do it. This

(24:40):
is crazy because we did it. And then they were like, hey,
can we follow you around tomorrow and just inter like,
watch you guys the whole day with such your or uh,
I don't want to say her name. Sorry, I don't
know if there's any way to whatever her and and
and so like then and this is from TV Tokyo,
so apparently we have a whole episode of us just

(25:01):
walking around, you know, in Japan with with with with her,
and that was it was crazy. Every everyone there was
so kind, so generous, Like the translator was so cool.
We're talking about how people learned English.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah wait, wait, what's the story. It's just like, hey,
three white dudes came to Japan, like what what's the
what's the new?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I know, I don't know, And that's what I'm thinking too.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
I mean, okay, it was the point of the show
is like why did you come to Japan? So I
guess for them, they're like, well, let's just follow them
around Japan with this. This just them talking to a
Japanese lady. I mean, I guess it's just I guess.
I guess it's odd because it's like three white dudes
who you know, like you said, their dentist cousin. It's
like separation.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
This guy went. I guess honestly, this guy went to
Japan to hang out with his dentist cousin is a
somewhat interesting.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, I know, yeah, I get that, and I mean, yeah,
it's just around I'm titling.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I'm titling this episode. I hung out with my dentist's cousin.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I got I mean yeah, I
mean that's crazy. I mean, like, when I think about
it like that, it is kind of crazy and weird.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
It's not that it's it's just wait, So okay, so
this this TV show, did you ever see like.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
The yeah episode, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Okay, so so, And the other is the is the episode?
Like can like is the episode?

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Like?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Can I find it on YouTube?

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Like?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I don't think you can find it on YouTube. I
was able to download and record the video. I go
to so many hoops to do it, Like I don't
even know if I should even be saying this, but
like I do have a download, but I think it's
like I don't think you could. The show is called
white like you know, nihona noney o or some ship

(27:08):
I can't noney that goes to show ship my fucking
Japanese now is but it's like why did you come
to Japan? It's like TV Tokyo, which is like the
number one broadcasting you know, uh whatever Japan.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah no, I'm I'm looking at it on I'm looking
at it on on on Google right now. It's all
in Japanese. I can't really see it.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah yeah, wait, so like the episode my episode or like.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
No, no, your episode. I'm just on the I am
on the like the show page. Son posted it in
the chat.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Oh yeah yeah yeah so that's that's that's I'm also
having whipp freaking robots.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
This is yeah, this is this is a verifiable, real
story that someone Yeah it.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Is, yeah, yeah for real, it's It's true. It's and
I don't know, it's like crazy at least for me,
Like I never would have expected any of that to happen. Again,
I'm eternally grateful for everything that they did for me
and and what they you know, like like you know, yeah,
it's just crazy. Like I don't know if you have you.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Have the episode.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
I do have the episode recorded, Yeah, I do. It's
all my Like it's like I think it's on my
Google drive somewhere. I don't even know why I should.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
I mean, well, I well, that's the funny thing is
is like I would be kind of sick to be
able to watch it, but then I don't. You're I
don't want you to get in I don't want either
of us to get in trouble with Japanese. Yah.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah yeah that's my that's my my fear.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
So you know, like so okay, so, so so what
what was the episode like? Like, I mean, if you
can't show it to us, describe it, what was it like?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yeah? So basically okay, So what the episode was like
is basic. You know, we're in this hotel, they come
by and so, uh, you know, she's showing us around. Uh,
let me get this, let me get my it's been
a little bit. So yeah, basically we go to Hachiko statue.
She shows a shabuyah scramble and excuse me, Oh my lord,

(29:12):
there's a peanut butter sandwich coming up. Excuse me. But
she yeah, we you know, going around Shibuya scramble. And
then they're like, hey, let's go down this. I wish
I could remember the street, some street, and oh, let's
do picuda And so Petticuda is, like I guess, really
popular in Japan. It's like, I guess young girls like

(29:33):
going there to take cute photos or something something like
that or some shit. And so, oh dude, and that's
the other thing. Right before that, they wanted to get
me kind of shot at me eating takoyaki, and I
was like, okay, but it was like hot and shit, dude,
it came straight off the damn the damn presses and
I was like, all right, I'm doing it for the
damn camera. I'm gonna eat this takoyaki. And I burnt

(29:55):
my damn mouth on the damn takoyaki. But yeah, there's
like they had Takoyaki went to Petty coulda. We took
like like super Kawhi photos and whatever. I mean in
between segments where you know, I'm talking to the to
the cameraman, I'm talking, I'm trying to talk to them
and my shitty Japanese and my brother's also helping me tremendously,
you know, so you know, trying to talk to them,

(30:17):
and then obviously we have the translator, which is that
guy was cool as hell too. Man, that guy was
so awesome. It's like damn yeah. So you know, we're
talking to him and then so let me get back
on track. This is now my I'm trying to keep
this as linear as possible, So sorry about you know,
taking little diversions. So you know, then after that we
go to A. So that's the other thing too. The

(30:40):
guy we we were kind of like, we were like,
I don't know when this episode is gonna end, but
like the guy was like, let's finish it off at
A at A you know, let's eat somewhere and let's
finish off the episode there. And so you know, we're there,
like where'd you guys want to go? And we're like,
I don't know, we're not really that hungry. Maybe we

(31:01):
could eat fucking dude. I said that as a kind
of a joke, but like I was like, dude, let's
go eat you don't, which is like you don't go
eat you don't with like a bunch of I guess
like in an episode like that. There's like a meme
in Japan but Chiegu, which is like, you know, you
eat Tigu is basically.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Like, yeah, Guton's like the beef ball, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
The beef ball. Yeah, the beef balls. Hey no, there
ain't nothing wrong with the beef bowl. Right. But there's
like a meme about like Chigu, which is like if
you put cheese on gute your youw don't you like
you look like basically like that in cell looking kind
of guy. You kind of look like that you look
at that's like like a editing or whatever. I don't
think it's a beta thing, but like there's a certain

(31:45):
physiognomy that a type of person who's chiegu you guns
or whatever. And like I mentioned it to the to
the producer and he just kind of fucking lasts. He's like, no,
we're not doing that ship And so like you know,
we're trying to find different places to eat at and all.
Obviously there's a whole like you can't go into a
building without asking you know, oh wait, okay, can I

(32:06):
let me backchuck a little bit. We also went to
tower records. That was cool as hell being able to
like see all the damn records and tower records that
was awesome as hell.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Like let me tell you, let me ask you this,
me ask you this. Okay, So you're on this Japanese
television show and you went here for like a month,
and let's get I want to get back yes to
the ultimate narrative of you because you said that this
experience was quite transformative for you. Is what is what

(32:38):
you were saying? And and how like how did it
reinvigorate you?

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Like I don't think I realized it during during there
during the whole process. I think it was more so
after the fact. I think it was, And it sort
of aligns with the whole like maybe more so in
like this narrative that you tell yourself, like you keep
telling yourself this narrative. I think it was like I

(33:03):
realized that I was in a shit run and like
you know, I didn't want to do pharmacy. I didn't
want to do fucking work in a lab, but I
didn't know what the fuck I wanted to do. And
I was, you know, here I am graduated with a
biochem degree, but now here I'm working as a server
somewhere like this ego thing about it. And you know,

(33:24):
I also got like some injury like scapular winging, and
so like I kind of lost my ability to you know,
exercise too. I liked exercising, and you know, I was
just like getting this right constantly, just day and day out,
being at home doing the same damn thing over and
over again. And then I you know, I probably lost
some sort of controls. I had an eating disorder and
that was also fucking me up and making me depressed.

(33:45):
And then I think, but what I think, I think
it was my my my hypothesis for why it maybe
got me out in trance, why I feel this now
revitalization is I feel like during that process I felt
like maybe I didn't I had no value, or at
least I wasn't able to do things like I like.

(34:06):
I guess how I would describe it as when you
go to the gym, you get some sort of confidence
because like, oh, look, I was able to do this
thing that I you know, I wasn't able to do right,
or at least I didn't think I was able to.
And I have I can show it off with my
muscle or whatever, or you know, you go and you
do something way.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to interrupt. I'm sorry
to interrupt you. But somebody in the chat found your episode.
Somebody in the chat found your episode.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Oh shit, really, I'm looking a yeah, I'm looking at it.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
There's like an article about it. There's an art. Is
this you wearing the Mad TV shirt? Oh?

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, Mac mac DeMarco wasn't mad, but it's like a
Mac DeMarco kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah is that you?

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, that's me, dude.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
That's so sick. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I know, it's fucking crazy. I don't know, it's crazy, man,
it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Okay, this is a real, verifiable story. Sorry, go ahead,
I'm interdrop.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah it's true. No, yeah, but real man. And if
they can somehow find the episode, you know, it's been
a it's been a bit. I don't know if you can,
but there's definitely that. Yeah, there's that article and then like,

(35:14):
I guess I got myself out of that, right, Like
I don't know. In some sense too, during the whole
planning of the whole month of Japan, I was like,
I don't know if I can fucking do this. I
don't know if I want to, Like I was also
clinging so desperately to my routine, and I was like, fuck, no,
fuck it, let's just go ahead and do it. And
I think it was just like being out in Japan,

(35:34):
you know, doing this thing that I thought I wasn't
able to do, and also proving to myself. I think
this is my hypothesis, is why. I mean, maybe it
could be something completely different. I don't know, but like
that I was capable of doing these things I wasn't
able to do, and then coming back and then maybe
realizing that subconsciously that had re reinvigorated into me some
sort of confidence that I can do these things that

(35:56):
you know, I don't need.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
To be told what to do.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
I can from in my own meaning and value.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
And see, Andrew, this is this is in se Andrew,
you know what is you accomplished that not by talking
and thinking endlessly in circles about how to figure out
how to do stuff. You accomplished it by you accomplished
it by being on a Japanese TV show.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah right, yeah, just like fucking doing shit. Just like yeah,
I mean like there's a time and place for thinking.
But also just like ties into this book I was
reading about the Outsider, you know, yeah, you just gotta Yeah,
there's it's a dynamic. There's a dynamic, dynamic aspect of life.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Go ahead, So so let's so, let's so let's rail
this on home, Andrew, let me ask you this before
we go. Okay, so, now that you are reinvigorated and
that you've you've realized through a combination of through through, through,
and this is the main idea of what the whole

(36:56):
thing that we've been talking about is you. Now you've
realized this through a combination of action followed by thinking
and revaluation and whatnot. A little ya, a little yang.
What's next? What do you?

Speaker 3 (37:08):
What do you?

Speaker 1 (37:08):
What's next for you? What do you want to do
the next?

Speaker 3 (37:11):
I think, I know, I think I know. Now I
need to forget the fuck out of my house. I
need to move out, I need to find a different job,
and I need to just like do something outdoors, find
some sort of job outdoors, and just you know, as
long as I can just read, I can walk, I
can run, I can boulder. If I can keep those
variables the same and just do that ship, that's that's
the next thing I'm going to be doing, you know.

(37:32):
So right now you're just in the middle of doing
job applications and ship and get the hell out of
here and move out. And that's what I need to do.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Man, Andrew. Uh, this I I appreciate. Uh, I appreciate
this conversation. This was this was really fun.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
I can I actually I appreciate too. This is crazy.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Can I maybe maybe, uh maybe I'll put a link
to the Should I this is? This is not typical
of what I usually do? But can I? Should I
put a link to the article in in like the
in like the episode description, just so people can see it.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah, if you want God bless the rest.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, this is fun. This is fun.
You know, I'll put I'll put a link to to
the article in the in the episode description, just so
people can see this ship. Wow, I love this. I
love this is. This is by the way, I just
I appreciate your story because this is this. This is
what I really want my podcast to be about. Is

(38:39):
like here, here's here's a man who found who found
reinvigoration for his life by accidentally being on a Japanese
TV show. That's those are the kinds of stories I
want to report them.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Oh yeah, I mean like some of becoming like you
know me too, I'm still trying to figure out my
shit too, and you know, not everything is all you know,
some flowers and daisies or whatever, but like, of course,
I mean if that can be any sort of like
indication for others or whatever, then you know, that's awesome.
That's awesome. And again, thank you for letting me speak

(39:19):
to you too and all that. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Andrew's anything else you want to say to the people
of the computer before we go?

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Uh? Anything else is saying? I think I spoke my piece.
I just hope the rest of you and everything else
in your guys' life, you know, it turns out well
or you get to do whatever you need to do
or all that shit. I guess I don't really have
that much else.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Just keep living, you know, Thank you, Andrew.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
I never kill yourself, keep it fifty fift.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Don't ever kill yourself. Keep it fifty to fifty. God
bless you, Andrew, keep going. I'm gonna keep running on
that treadmill, or don't. It's actually I think I should
take a break. But God bless you Andrew. You take care,
you have a the rest of the.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah, Papa bless thank you you doo okay, thank you, Lyle,
See you later.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Brother, later, brother. I liked that guy. That guy was.
That was a cool guy. That was a good guy.
That's got that was a That man was a real
life trooper right there. That guy. I felt that. I
felt that man's wavelength. That man. You ever talk to
someone who they just have never thought about anything, you know,

(40:25):
it's like it's like, how are you even alive? And
then you talk to and then it's nice because I
tell you, you talk to a guy like Andrew, and
it's like, all right, you've thought about everything. You've thought
about everything. And because there's two types of people. There's
people who've never not two types of people, but there
exists two types of people. Not finitely, but people have

(40:45):
thought about nothing. And when you meet someone who they've
thought about nothing, uh, you're like her, you alive, you know.
And then you meet someone you know whose brain maybe
works a little bit more like uh, like like mind does,
or like Andrew does, where it's like, oh, you've thought
about too many things. How are you alive?

Speaker 3 (41:02):
You know?

Speaker 1 (41:02):
And the answer is you just keep going, You just
keep not dying. That's how you stay alive is every
day you keep avoiding death and danger in mayhem, and
you keep trudging on, you keep moving to the finish line.
And if you're lucky, you you wind up a talking
gecko or you wind up on a Japanese TV show
with your dentist's cousin. That's what I've learned about life

(41:25):
in the past forty minutes. Hey, what's up?

Speaker 5 (41:31):
Hey, what's hell?

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Gek?

Speaker 1 (41:32):
How you doing? What's your name?

Speaker 5 (41:33):
My name is Addie Man Addie Addie.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
That's like when it's like when you're yeah, like when
you go to a party and you're like, where's the party?
Send me the Addie.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
It's actually att wide short for Atticus, like.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Like oh, like the butt, like a walking bird.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
That was a rough like week of high school. That
was like a lot of hearing that name. You don't
you don't usually hear that name, just like out and.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
About no, not really what did you Did you read
it or did you spark note it?

Speaker 5 (42:08):
I read this ship out of that my dad and
my mom kind of like peer pressured me when I
was a little kid to read it because they were like,
that's what you're named after. It's like important.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Uh what oh oh, so you're named after the book,
so that is where you got the name.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
See, I asked them and they kind of just like
side shift the conversation and they I think they like
to tell people that, but I feel like there's an
ulterior motive.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
What's going on, Addie? What makes you want to call
a get go on the phone today?

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Well?

Speaker 5 (42:40):
So, like I have this walk to class and it's
really cold, and I like to listen to your podcast
while I walk. And last week I heard someone talking
about how they felt like they're disappointing their like dad
and that they have like a work relation with them.
Because that's kind of what happens with me, is I
like work with my dad, and I worry a lot
lately at least that I'm like this appointing him and

(43:01):
kind of my family, and it's like making me feel
a little shittier about kind of like the choices I'm
making in my life.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
How old are you in college?

Speaker 5 (43:11):
Yeah, I'm twenty one. I'm in college. I'm about to graduate.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
You said you're disappointed with the choices you're making in
your life.

Speaker 5 (43:18):
I kind of, I don't know. I feel like they're
not great. I feel like they're kind of self destructive
in a way, Like I feel like I have a
good thing go like going for me. So it feels
kind of like sometimes the choices I make are like
just dumb, like they're kind of like like what Philly
So like Okay, So like the big thing is like
why I think I'm disappointing my parents is like I'm

(43:40):
kind of big into like weed and I grow it.
And the whole thing is that I've kind of like
lately kind of like you got a lot of weed
and I'm a broke college students. What do you do?
You like sell it to your friends? And I've kind
of gotten in a little hot water for that, And
it's like feels just like it's a silly decision, you know.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Well, uh, well, here's the thing is that there's actually
a lot of people I'm gonna I'm gonna take a
different I'm gonna take an alternative stance on this I'm
gonna I'm gonna take an alternative stance on this one.
What state are you? Are you in a or don't
tell me about state you're in, but are you in
a legal state?

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (44:17):
It's recently legal, like in the last few years for sure.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Okay, do you I mean, because why don't you're like
on the border?

Speaker 5 (44:26):
Oh yeah, Like I'm gonna be honest here. I think
some people I know because I like, I grew up
in the other state and I'm in the border of one.
Like I'm gonna be honest here. Like no self admittance.
I'm definitely questionable, you know, in in where they're from.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Well, hold on, hold on, you're no, no, no, you're
unquestionably doing something illegal no matter what what here. Just
because you're in a just just because you're in a
state where you can legally buy weed does not mean
that you can legally grow and sell weed as just
like a guy.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
I mean, I don't think I'm doing anything like that bad, Like,
I mean no.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
But that's but that's not what the question question is
whether or not. But here's okay, But hold on back
to what I was saying, is, why don't you I
don't know. Once you go pro you're twenty one, I I.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Mean I definitely could. I'm working on it, like right now,
you know, like my state has like some stuff getting
some like like legalization for businesses, and I'm doing the
stuff to do that. But it's more of just like
it feels like my my parents are definitely getting in
the direction like week by week almost months by month,
and it's like, uh, they don't want me to go
that route. They kind of want me to like choose

(45:35):
a traditional route. I think my dad really wants me
to take over like the family business. He really wants
me to like connect it out. And it just feels
like every day I go there, you know, it's like
and I like see him, it's like slowly but surely
he's kind of giving me that eye almost kind of
like even though he may not necessarily agree with the
like the practices of it, I think it's more of
just the general like stigma is kind of leaning them out.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, but but it brother trying to start your own
little family business.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
That's true, that's very but.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
But why don't you go Here's what I'm saying is
I don't know, I don't really actually I don't know
anything about this industry, but like, how hard is it
for you to go pro? Like do you need a
bunch of expensive.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
It's money, you know, it's definitely the money part. But
I also am like I'm a little worried about like
the image part of it too, is like people say,
you know, you don't have to care what other I mean,
Like the big thing is, like I've noticed lately, like
a lot of kids that went to high school with
and like people I know are are definitely starting to
like I'm starting to lose some of the connections. It
seems like some people are starting to like not necessarily

(46:39):
see me the same way. It kind of feels like
my my ambitions and dreams are kind of correlating against
like what my the general image of like going on
in life. And I know you're probably gonna say, like, oh,
you don't need those people and like whatever, but it's like,
I don't know, It's like it feels it's a little
hurtful in a way, Like my friends and my family
are kind of feeling that way.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Yeah, of course, of course, I you know what, and yes,
I was probably yes, I was probably going to go
on a rant very similar to the rant that you
think I'm going to go on. But also, you know, look, man,
I'm I'm not connected to your situation in anyway, and
I'm not used. Of course, it's easy for me to
say those things, and I know that the actually feeling

(47:21):
them is quite a different thing. But well, I here's
the thing. Is like weed aside, like the stigmas of
weed aside. I mean, entrepreneurship is awesome, and I think
like starting your own business is awesome and his great,
and you know, I mean that's I can't help you

(47:43):
in terms of like what your friends and your family think.
But that's what I get out of it, is like,
this is a this is a young man trying to
make his own buck in this in this lawless hell
scape of of of of twenty twenty five America, And
by god, I do I do. I I just support that,
you know, And if it happens to be in marijuana,

(48:05):
it's like, you know, whatever marijuana is basically, you know,
it's like cigarettes. It's like nothing it is it is.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
I mean, it's like that.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Way cigarettes A right, cigarettes are.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
Bad with the degree, but it feels kind of rough,
you know. That's that's the role I'm kind of getting
into is like, you know, it may not be as bad,
but it's also like the you know, I got a degree,
and it feels like I'm kind of going into something
that like not a lot of people have degrees, or
that I might not even make it, might have to
work something else, you know. Because that's the thing is

(48:36):
like going every day and seeing my dad kind of
likes feel kind of disappointed about it. It's kind of
leaning me out. It's making me kind of want to
leave my income, make it try and work. But then
it's like that stability, you know, like that was really
it was a good message, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Like well, wait, what's the family business?

Speaker 5 (48:55):
Well, so like my my dad he owns like a
greenhouse company, but it's a It's the problem is that
like it's it's relatively decent, like it does well for
our area, so people know me, and that's where kind
of that image comes in, Like I think he kind
of it's like a black sheep of the kid kind
of thing. Mm hmm. And I've had some problems before,

(49:18):
like growing up, so it's kind of it kind of
feels like it's all compounding into like one one big thing.
You know where it's like, shit, I don't know where
this is gonna go in the sense of like how
they're gonna treat me. Where it's where it's gonna end up,
you know. I mean, I got my degree, I did
I did the works, I did the things he definitely wanted.
But then it's kind of like that whole weird relationship.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, it's a bummer. I don't want to like. I mean,
it's it's it's a bummer, right because I I I
it's just it's a shame that it's like the fact
that your parents don't like I guess I don't know.
I don't want to speak out of turn on your
parents whatever. But if you're parents don't like support, if

(50:02):
your parents don't support your own independent vision of your life,
that just sucks. That is a bummer. There's no like
fixing that. I think that sucks. I think that's how bummer.
But I also think it would be a bummer two,

(50:25):
you know, dilute your life because of that. I think
that would that would take one bummer, that would turn
one bummer into a double bummer. From from from where
I stand echo it would be a compounding bummer.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
Yeah, I mean That's the thing is I feel like
compounding bummer is like not the end goal of growing
growing up in moment in anyway, I think. I think
it's just kind of like do what you love, try
and enjoy your life, go about it.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Okay, so you already find all right, So I mean
you are you already fundamentally understand that. But it's just like,
oh it sucks that scary. It is scary. Yeah, it
is scary, But I.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
Don't know, man, I mean, the biggest thing is like,
oh sorry, it's just like, uh, it's kind of a
weird thing. Is like my sister. I have an older
sister and she definitely had I don't want to say
she had other problems, but she had more like the
big thing is she like went to had to rehab stunt,
had like a whole thing. And it's it's kind of

(51:31):
a weird comp problem because it kind of feels like
I had to be the good kid growing up for
a long time, and every time I made a mistake,
it like like how you were saying, it's that compounding
bummer almost. It feels like if I don't fill in
what's going right, it's gonna kind of just eventually compounded,
but like what is what are they gonna say to me?
And I feel like I should just do what I enjoyed.

(51:53):
But then it's like that, like how we were saying,
it's that fear of getting over it. It's tough, just
like kind of going all in, going off the deep
and maybe cutting off some of the people who you
may think are good for you.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Well why do you, like, what do you mean go
all in? Like why can't you just like kind of
like like what, I don't I guess I don't understand
why you because all right, your parents want you to
like work on the family business, right, like can you
do you not have? Are you not able to work
on that for a little bit? And then also when
you're not doing that, ask chat GPT how to get

(52:30):
a fucking license to sell weed? And oh yeah, Arizona,
remember the little license thing.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
I'm doing that. But the it's the problem is like
it seems like my dad is like cutting my hours
a bit recently. It seems like he he says he
wants me to focus on school, and I'm like, hey, man,
I need to work. I need to make money here,
I need to be self sufficient independent, And it seems
he's saying there's like budgetary reasons, and I'm just like, man,
I just don't trust that. I feel like there's something

(52:57):
else going on around here, because it's never been a
problem before until like especially the last about six six
to seven months, when I've been going really all in
on my license. I've been trying to really go hard
and getting it for my state. So it's kind of
been like a bit.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Of a you know, sorry, I just dropped a coin.
I don't know if I was fidgeting with it, playing
with a coin and I dropped. Sorry, I don't know.
I'm gonna I'm gonna cut that part. I'm gonna cut
that out of the podcast. Actually no, actually, you know what. No,
I'm gonna take responsibility for dropping the coin, and I'm

(53:39):
I'm gonna take Yeah. Wait, Brandon Brandon, let's leave this
in the podcast. We're not not cutting any of this. Yeah,
I'm a big sorry. I'm talking to Brandon Brandon. Shout out,
Brandon Brandon edits the podcast. So now I'm okay, all right, anyway, anyway.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
Continue, I'm a leg fidget. I like to walk, you know.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Yeah, me too. I like to walk to walk, I
don't know what kind of what's what state are you in?
Can I ask?

Speaker 5 (54:07):
Okay, I'll give myself a little docs here. I'm in Minnesota,
so I'm in like the deep Northwest. And funny enough,
we've actually talked about this before, about six months ago,
before I really wanted to like commit myself to well
because like we talked like a while back when I
was just really getting like some like response we talked before.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
The funny thing is, I kind of like, I don't
want to say this as like my check up, but
it's almost like a reinvigoration. I was sitting here and
I was like, man, I'm just I'm tired. I kind
of want to go to bed. And then I saw
you were streaming. I was like, a man, it's been
a while since.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
All right, well let me I mean, okay, can I
I'm just I'm gonna take can I can? I take
what I acknowledged to be a blindly optimistic stance. I
acknowledge this to be a blindly optimistic stance. But it's
but it's worth I believe it's worth exploring, not saying

(55:03):
it's what's gonna happen, not saying that life is always
sunshine and rainbows. But it's where I think it's for
recreation's sake. We can explore the blindly optimistic take, which
is that, I mean, listen, you're gonna become a fucking
You're gonna start a brand, right, you know, That's what

(55:25):
this is. This shit is is you start a brand,
you go to you know you, I mean, you could
I just see, I just see like just I just
the blind optimist take is that I just see you
being able to, like, you know, you launch a little
weed brand, and maybe you start going to trade shows,

(55:45):
and maybe you start like getting involved in the Minnesota
marijuana community, and then and then the culture of it,
and then maybe you're like, oh shit, I actually have
a bunch of new, cool, awesome friends in this industry,
and I'm actually doing a bunch of new, cool, awesome stuff.

(56:05):
And so all the people that I went to high
school with who didn't really fucking do anything that are
upset at me because I'm doing marijuana, I don't even
think about them anymore because I'm too busy hanging out
with new cool people who've accept me in my way
of life. And I'm making and I'm making, and I
could be and again, again, I'm not saying that this

(56:26):
is what's going to happen, because yes, of course all
the time, but you could also be making way more
fucking money than if you took over your dad's business.
And again I'm not saying that these are guaranteed things,
but I am saying that these are these are things
worth aspiring to and giving a shot at, because why

(56:50):
they're fucking mouth why yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah sure. So
I'm just saying, like.

Speaker 5 (56:56):
It's like you are right, it is. We did end
on the of who gives a fuck of who like
what everyone else is doing, do what I need to do,
which is the correct feel we yesh, Yeah, I think
that is the right approach. I think it is the
mentality I should have. I think it's gonna help me
just get out there not worry about it.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
I mean, it's so cool. I like it's also it's
just so cool. It's like you're gonna you could start
a brand of like your own fucking weed and you
get involved in like a scene culture.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
Yeah, I'm trying to be sustainable. I want to provide
something for a community. But most of the things we
have ever heard of, like ditch weed that's what we
got up here mostly No that it's it's oh so
it's like it's people call like brickweed ditch weed. It's
like comes from Mexico. It's like it's what they bring
over the border. It's like way back when. And it's

(57:47):
the whole thing is that it would come in like
plastic field cases, so it looks like a brick and
they wouldn't dry or ferment it, so it's not like
mole and it's called like ditch weed. It's what we
got up here because it's it's Minnesota, you.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Know where, what's what city are you near? Like a
major city?

Speaker 5 (58:07):
What I just I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna fully
dog myself here. I mean like I'm in I'm in
like right by like there's a morehead. I'm like a
I'm in the litteral no joke. If you just draw
like a line towards Minneapolis, I'm in the stretch of that.
There's just nothing.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Mm hmmm mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
And it.

Speaker 5 (58:28):
Yeah, what it's just cold, stry.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Well listen, I just look, I'll and I'll end, I'll
it's no, you're not no one. First I forget First
of all, I forget what your name is because I
forget everyone's name, but you're no one's gonna find you,
and they're they're gonna find you once, uh once they're whatever. Okay, okay, okay, okay,
but like look, let me just end on this. And again,

(58:53):
I know it's I I have so many voices in
my brain telling me that I don't want to be
uh uh. I think it's good, you know, you know
what you know, I'm ignore I'm gonna ignore all of
those voices and I'm gonna be optimistic with you. I
you're I really think that if you you could be

(59:15):
by getting a legal license and starting a little brand
and getting involved in the community of these things, you
could be embarking on such a wonderful, awesome, great adventure
and career for yourself. And I would. And I am
bummed out that your dad does not see that same way.

(59:40):
I am bummed out by that, But I don't think
it should stop you from from trying, because you're young,
you're clearly, you're clearly a smart guy, and you could
be embarking on again what what what could be a
really cool, wonderful adventure, not just you know, for just

(01:00:01):
for you as a human being, not even just as
like a oh I'm gonna make a bunch of money thing.
But you know, you'll meet people, you'll try shooting the
thing that I just do, the thing that you just
fucking just yeah, just do it. And again I'm bummed
out that your dad doesn't see it that way. But
I don't think you're gonna You're gonna die and you're
only get you're young, so just I just think you
should try it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
Yeah, Okay, Well I could die at any time, that's
the thing. Yeah, Like I could die at any time,
you know, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Do it now, especially especially now that thousands of people
know where you live.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Dude, the hit man's coming from me, I swear to
god I heard him already. Yeah, I mean, I definitely
do not have guns on a compound.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Far.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
I'm just joking.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Well, hey, when you met, can you send me? Can
you are you're not allowed to send it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
I mean, hey, this is what I'll say. It's legally
you can transport it technically over the borders, but it's
considered smuggling if you have to enter a state that
it's not legal. All right, It's kind of like a
weird picky law, but I do have an Instagram where
I post pictures of them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Plug your plug your Instagram if you want, Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
All right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
Baked cultivation b a k e S cultivation.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
That we don't have too much right now.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
Baked cultivation b a k e S cultivation.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Baked right now, we cultivate, okay, yeah, baked cultivate all right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Yeah, yeah, So we make mostly like live rosin and
hash right now. And that's the those are mostly like
the you know, post plant extracts, but we do some flower.
But the big thing is we we're currently right now
social equity verified in the market, so we can't really
sell anything. But once licenses are put out in theoretically
May to June, we can have our products on shelves.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Wait, so is it like past testing? What a man?
So this instagram, I don't want to put you on
like blast here. This instagram is.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
Not illegal, right, No, not illegal at all. I'm twenty
one one. I am within legality of what I can
grow within my own home. I also I am verified
by the government to grow. It's perfectly fine.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
There we go, nice, you know, hold on, let me
look right now. It's bakes Underscore is then bakes no underscore.
All right, hold on, I probably make it public. I
feel like, oh there it is public right now, No,
it's public. Yeah. I like this. I like the small

(01:02:27):
batch crafts, cannibate Minnesota entrepreneurs. Oh you're good here, you know.
Here's by the way. Let me just say this to you,
because if you were just like some fucking douchebag and
you called me and you were like, yeah, man, I
like I like smoking, I like selling weed to my friends,
but like maybe I could. But like, you're already doing ship,
you know what I mean? Like you're already you have
a website. You're gonna be fine. Like, look, you already

(01:02:49):
have a well you already have a website. What the
fuck you have like a you're already doing Yeah, you're
already doing all this ship. You have a fucking website.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
You know, you may think that I'm already doing there.
It just feels it feels like I'm getting told otherwise.
But you know that's the I think that's part of
the battle of it is. I think people just aren't
going to agree with it in the first place. Like
it's just bro, look.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
You wait, hold on, who are who are Alex and Danny.
You have like homies that you're doing this with. Wow,
my this is sick. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
So I have a girl, I have a I got
a buddy who grows through. He is like a student
right now at a local college. He does biochemistry, so
he does like the extract part. And then I have
a family member who grows within, uh like within just
for fun, and he's grown for like fifty sixty years,
so he's like quite a older guy. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
You guys like she Honestly, I'm just looking at your
website right now, and I'm like, oh, okay, you're not.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
Like and then yeah, this is we're not quite done yet.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
No no, no, no, no, no, hold on, I'm look at
your website right now. I'm like, okay, you this is
something that you actually like care about and uh want
to do you know what I mean? It would be
it would bum me. I think you should do this.
This is really cool.

Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
I think I'm excited. I really want to get it going.
It's I mean it's a big battle of like getting it,
like you know, up off the ground, getting it in
large scale, but like it's it's a scary thing too.
I mean I feel like I'm kind of putting my
career in a way because like there's this another company
in our local area stort of doing like CBD Extracts,
like five six years ago, and they essentially went out

(01:04:18):
of business because they just weren't able to like really
get a customer pull because our area isn't as you know,
open and accepting of you know, cannabis byproducts. So it's
interesting to see how it works. Thank you, Lyle. I
fucking love you, man. That's great that I hope you
know that's gonna make my That makes my day, man,
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Do you like to say?

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Everyone?

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Yeah? With the with the I was this Victorian guy, dude.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
So that's in the Smithsonian. It's like this guy who
draws like pieces of time and that's what people call him.
And like this guy is like the whole thing is
he's smoking with his buddy, like and there's a priest
there and someone snuck in tobacco into his bowl and
he's like spitting it out. I thought that was funny.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
That's all all right, I'm gonna all right, I officially,
I official, I blindly officially endorse I blindly based off
of my good faith that you were telling me the
truth that all of this is completely legal. I blindly endorse,
I blindly endorse bakes Cultivation. Go follow them, Okay, right

(01:05:25):
now now there's good yeah, all right, now you gotta
do it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
Putting that I'm clipping that, I'm putting that out of proportion.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
I'm go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
Oh really wow, beautiful?

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
All right? Man?

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Well well, well, well listen, is any is the anything
else you want to say the people of the computer
before we go.

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
I would love to say that, you know, everyone has
their own struggles. Everyone has like you know, everyone makes
their fuck ups. But the thing is is like it's
all about what you want to do tomorrow. I I
had my fair share of fuck ups.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
I can make my own things happen. But you know,
don't let your dad tell you what to do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Sick beautiful, Love you all right, man, Love you all right?
Love you hey, hey, hey, love me too, man, Love
you too. I don't usually I don't usually say I
don't usually say I love you to people call in
because it makes me feel a little weird. But I
I think I love you a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:06:14):
Thank you man. If you're ever in Minnesota. By the way,
I went to your show that was in Minneapolis. It's
pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Oh kick ass? All right, all right, next time I'm there,
I'm gonna I'm gonna, yeah, no, next time, next time
I'm there, I'll d M you and I'm gonna try
to smoke some of your weeds.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
Absolutely, man, I'll make the lyle pack.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
I got you sick, sick, all right, take care of
good luck, bye bye good Yeah. I like that guy.
That guy was cool.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
I don't know. I'm just looking at this what I like.
I love, I really do, I love. I love. I
love a cool small business. You know what I mean.
I love a cool small business. And I don't know,
I really ah, God, just looking at this guy's website
and just the fact that he has one, you know
what I mean, because people called into the show, and

(01:07:03):
you hear people talk all the time about like, oh
I kind of might want to do this thing and
blah blah blah and whatever, and you know this guy's
he's just already doing it. Like the fact that he
even has all this shit out there, you know. So
I hope he goes for it. Yeah, go follow Bake's cultivation. God,
I hope this is I hope. I'm not getting this

(01:07:24):
guy like fucking raided by the police or whatever. I
don't know. Oh crap, Now I have to go back
to Minnesota to smoke this guy's weed. I don't know why.
I know, hold on, Actually, I don't know why. I
just dissed Minnesota. Now I have no reason to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
I like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
I like Minnesota. Minnesota's cool. Oh look, his instagram already
has a few more followers. That's nice. Yeah, shout out
to Minnesota. If you're in Minnesota, by buy weed from
this guy, or I mean, don't yet, wait until he
has these can legally sell it. Okay, sick? All right?

Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
Hello, Yo, how's it going.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
It's going all right? How you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Not too bad?

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
How's uh, how's the whole get got thing going?

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
How's the whole gecko thing going today? It's going pretty good. Today,
it's going pretty good. We're having some nice conversations with
some people. It's pretty pretty chill. Uh. What's up with you, buddy?

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Not too much?

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
Yeah, I just uh, I haven't doing it in your
stream for a long time, so I just want to. Yeah,
I just thought, see what's going on? You don't have
like the green screen back background anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
I noticed that I have it sometimes. Wait, can you
do me a favorite? Can you take me off a speakerphone?

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
Yeah, I'm sorry. All right, how's that?

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I have it sometimes? But uh yeah, like I'm trying,
I'm in I'm in Japan right now, and uh I
brought well, I brought all my crap with me. I
brought all my crap with me and now and I
just never felt like setting it up. And I'm like,
wait a minute, I can achieve the same results with

(01:09:17):
just my microphone. Uh, which is which you know, some
could call it lazy. I call it efficient.

Speaker 5 (01:09:29):
I can see that. That's that's that's fair. I mean,
I mean if you don't really need you know, the
green screen and the you know whatever effects. Yeah, I mean,
I mean you're good. I mean, if you're in Japan,
that's I mean, that makes it work. There are you
doing any content in Japan? Are getting like interview people
in Tokyo?

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Yeah, I'm interviewing you right now.

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
Well I'm not in Tokyo, but this this is.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
My this is my Japan content is talking to people
on the phone while I'm in a hotel room in Japan.

Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
Okay, I got you? Yeah, that's that's I guess you're
the one in Japan. So that that that qualified well.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
So I I mean, I I came here two years
ago and that was when I kind of did my
whole like that that the trip I took two years
ago is more focused on, like I'm this trip, I'm
just kind of chilling here. But last two years ago
I did I did like a more Japan focused content.

(01:10:36):
But today this time, well, I mean, I'm going on
a walk. I'm I am in uh, let's see, sometime
next week or actually, I don't know when this episode
is going to air, so this might be this week,
I don't I don't know exactly, but sometime between starting
on what February six seventeen, starting on February seventeenth or sixteenth,

(01:11:04):
depending on the time zone or whatever, sometime the week
of February sixteenth, I'm gonna go on a walk across
through the Nacascendo Trail, like fifty miles and I'm gonna
live I'm gonna live stream it on Twitch, dot tv
slash Lisle forever, so that counts. I'm gonna do it,

(01:11:26):
and I'm not gonna do it in my costume though,
because I don't. I don't really feel like it. Initially
I was I wasn't even gonna stream it. Initially, I
was just gonna do it for fun. And then well
I'm still doing it for fun, but I am streaming it.
I am doing it and streaming it for fun. Yeah,

(01:11:48):
I used to back in like twenty twenty one. Okay,
you know, uh yeah, maybe less people might watch, but
I don't I think, I mean, it'll be fun. I
wasn't even streaming it. Is kind of like I mainly
just wanted to do it, so streaming it is more

(01:12:08):
of like a why not. Well, I'm doing it with
a friend, and my friend streams, uh and so he
already has all the equipment and stuff, so I'm like,
all right, let's just do it to my channel too.

Speaker 5 (01:12:22):
That's pretty cool. Yeah. I don't know if I'd ever
want to go to Japan, like anytime soon. The only
thing I hear about it that might be cool is
like gwenno akihabra or something, or like all the weave
shit is because that I like anime or whatever. But
besides that, it's like, I mean, it'll be great to
go like anywhere in Japan. I mean Japan's great food

(01:12:45):
and stuff too, but it's just like I don't know
if i'd ever want like live there or like go there,
like you know, it's like a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
It's cool. Where do you Where do you live now? Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
Yeah, I live in the States. I live in like
the Midwest.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
That's cool. Yeah, I mean no, Japan. Japan is cool.
It's stuff. It's has a lot of UH. It's a
very different place than like New York City. Everyone here
is UH is like about the rules.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Everyone here is like like there's a weird it's super yeah,
super clean, super efficient, no one. I was on the
subway in Japan and like it's funny in the New
York City subway people UH will like come on like
every single day you you go to the subway and

(01:13:43):
somebody comes on and they're like, hey, everybody, it's time
to start the show. And they take a boom box
and they play start playing music and like dancing and
like collecting tips and it's like this is completely normal.
And then on the Japan and then I was on
the subway in uh Tokyo and it was so I

(01:14:04):
had a paper cup and it was so quiet that
I took my thumb and I rubbed the paper cup
and I could hear the sound of my thumb rubbing
on the paper cup. It was so quiet on the train.
I was sitting now being here, I'm like, I can't
imagine what it must what it would be like to

(01:14:27):
like grow up in Japan and like, you know, live
here for all of your life and then go to
New York City and go to the subway, like it
would be It's just such a crazy culture shock. I
really don't wonder. Really it would fuck you up. It
would be like that's insane, insane culture shock. Yeah. Like
another thing is like on the escalators here, like like

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if you're like you will see a big escalator, every
single person is standing to the left side of the
escalator without fail, every single time. I'm not a single
person is not standing on the left.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
Like I've never thought about that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
It's it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
And I like always walk on escalators. And it's like
and now, and you're just saying that now, and I'm like, wait,
am I not supposed to like walk on? I mean
you're not supposed to, but like I'm never no one's
ever like said like, hey, don't walk on escalator, don't
like or don't move an escalator, but like and I'm
stop considering that's like kind of that's like some people
like consider that like indecent or something to like walk

(01:15:28):
like up or like like like up an escalator, like
down escalator because it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
But even like or like in the States, like if
you go to a mall or a subway or something like,
people are like hanging out on the like people like
have their arms lazed bouts on the on the escalator.
People are sleeping on the escalator. People are like there
is no like I must stand on the left. People
are standing on the left side, they're standing on the
right side. They're having a whole escalator party. People like line.

(01:15:57):
People like form lines to get on the subway cars.
Like nobody in New York does that. It's it's it's weird.
It's interesting. Yeah they did. They have a lot of
little like stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:11):
Yeah, that's I mean, it sounds nice. I heard the
yen is down too, which is I mean, that's good
for you. I want to guess. Yeah, maybe if the
if USD is more powerful there, because yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
We'll see. I don't know. I'm curious we'll see. I
feel like the US this is this is a hilarious
thing to talk about on the Therapy Gecko podcast. But
I think the US. I don't know how. I don't
know how much longer the US dollar has anymore either,
So we'll see we might be joining the end in
the near future. Who knows.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
Oh no, I mean that's not I mean, I guess
that doesn't make it worse to go to Japan than
that's I mean, that's on the bright side.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
I don't know. I don't know. I just let's see
how much longer do I have left to live. I'm
twenty seven. If I'm lucky, I got fifty three more years,
you know, I'll be okay.

Speaker 5 (01:17:03):
Do you think that? Do you think you're like, do
you ever wonder if it's possible that you might not die?
Like if you ever like, Look, do you know Brian
Johnson is, like you know his whole stick?

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Yes, I know who Brian Johnson is. And I think
I think it's a fool's Errand really, yeah, I hard disagree.

Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
With you on that point.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Why why why do you hard disagree with me on that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
It's a fool's Errand in the short term, just because
of science. I don't. I mean, I'm not, I'm not
professional or anything, but like, I mean, I think anyone
can tell that it's we're nowhere near to like, you know,
solving death or something. But I think that everyone, just
like in the world culturally has like grown to accept

(01:17:55):
like death as being normal because like, why wouldn't they.
But but this point, with the way that our science is,
no one has like it seems like no one besizing
on people like Brian Johnson has seriously considered the possibility
that death is just like an illness that we can
cure eventually, and so people are not you know, actually

(01:18:19):
told me about that as a serious possibility to.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Do what what do you know? What do yeah to do? What?
What do you have? What do you not have enough
time to do?

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
I don't know, go to go to Jupiter or something?

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Who knows? Who knows what?

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Why do you need? Why do you need to go
to But also I I have a different I I'm lazy.
That's why I'm not a good person to have this
argument with why do you want to go to Jupiter?
It's good, it's good to want to go to Jupiter.
I genuinely believe that, but why do you want to
go I.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Mean you would I mean he would be lame to
go to I mean Jupiter is.

Speaker 5 (01:18:56):
A bad example because you would just go through You
just go through like a like a like a lot
of it, and then you would get to the to
the like to the core.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
By the way, hold on, hold on, brother, you don't
even want to go to Japan. You want to go
to Jupiter.

Speaker 5 (01:19:14):
I just said I wouldn't want to live in Japan.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
I think it would be cool to go.

Speaker 5 (01:19:17):
To Japan, but like living in Japan is like I mean,
I just I mean, I just like that's just like,
you know, up in the air for me, because Japan
is like I don't know if I can handle living
in Japan, just because it seems like it would be
hard to to get a job in Japan sustainably because
I'm trying to be I'm trying to work in like

(01:19:39):
the video game industry. I feel like in Japan that
would be awesome, but I would just not be able
to compete with Japanese game devs compared to him.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
I feel like, you know, here's the thing is we
need to like this is I guess shouldn't society be
sustainable first, and then we can make it forever. Shouldn't
we make it? Shouldn't we make it like sustainable and
utopian and then we can make it forever. Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:20:14):
I mean in terms of like I guess it depends
on what you're what you're comparing, like, because I mean,
if if you're talking about, like, oh, we should we
should colonize Mars because Earth is gonna you know, Earth
is doing we need to go to a different like like, yeah,
obviously it's stupid because we should just take care of
the planet we have now. But in terms of living forever,

(01:20:34):
like I mean, you can you got you can probably
do both. I mean I think there's a lot, like
a lot of science can be you know, invested in
that like thing, and then we can figure that out
at the same time. Like it's not like because like
if whether or not we doll death, that's not going
to prevent like it's that that's not gonna matter in

(01:20:55):
terms of like wars happening, you know what I mean,
Like like that that's no, those things aren't like really
connected that much. Like we solve that tomorrow and there's
still going to be so much war and so much
you know. So there's like so many problems, like it's
not you know what I mean, Like they're not Let
me tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Let me just tell you one thing. Let me just
tell you one thing. Seven eleven. Food here is a
lot better than it is in America. For that reason,
you might want to recard that, you might want to reconsider.
And and because I'm eating it, I'm probably gonna die sooner.
But uh, that's just what happens to me. What's your

(01:21:34):
name again?

Speaker 5 (01:21:34):
If you were eating it in America, then you would
die even sooner.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
Oh my god, I would die. I'd probably die on
the spot.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:21:44):
Wait, what was your question?

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
What's your name again?

Speaker 5 (01:21:48):
My name is Al?

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Is there anything else you want to say to the
people of the computer before or like, if you had it,
do you have any other final thoughts on humanity or
any or anything there?

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
You go?

Speaker 5 (01:22:03):
Uh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
I mean they say.

Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
That there's two things that you can avoid, which are
death and taxes. But you can avoid taxes now and
maybe in one hundred years you can avoid death too,
So guys will limit everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
I like that? All right, man, I'll you know what, Yeah,
maybe we'll maybe we can hang out on Jupiter one day.
That could be cool.

Speaker 5 (01:22:31):
I'll see you there, brother, I'll see you there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
I'll see you on the gas I God bless you, sir.

Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
You two wle talk to you later later.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
That was Al. That was al Uh. And Al wants
to live forever on Jupiter, and I hope he does
that one day. I hope we can all live forever
on Jupiter. And if we can't do that, I hope
we can all live on Earth for at least seventy years.

(01:23:05):
I used to say at least eighty, but I think
seventy is probably more realistic. All right, thank you, Hello folks,
it's Lyle here. That's the end of this episode. But
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(01:23:26):
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Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
Essentially, this like creature came out of it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
I would describe as like almost a comedicly classical representation
of the devil, but not in like the haha funny sense,
in like the it was like a three and a
half foot tall, shriveled up husk in that moment, whatever
that thing was, if it had told me to do anything,

(01:24:19):
I would have just done it, you know, Brian?

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
And yeah, Bran, how how are you doing right now?
You still have this stuff going on. If you want
to hear this full conversation, you can sign up to
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(01:24:42):
com or find the link in the episode description that's
Therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com. All right, I have
nothing else to say. Goes on the line, taking your
every nine. Goes to teaching us how to have your life.
But he's not really an expert.

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