“I’M A ZOOKEEPER”

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Hi, What is your name?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
My name is Shrimp.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Shrimp. What's up, Shrimp? How's life?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Life is good? I've been waiting to Collin for a while.
I'm pretty excited.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Fucking hell yeah, man, here we are. We are doing
the Gecko Show. This is gonna be a this is
this is gonna be a very low key Gecko show.
I don't know what the fuck I just said. I
don't know what that means, but I.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Think they're all pretty low key.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
You're right, That's why I that's I feel like they're
all pretty low key. So I don't know why I
specifically mentioned that this was going to be low key.
I think what I here's what? Okay? Actually, I'm shrimp.
I feel so hard I'm shrimp. I'm completely bullshitting you
right now. I know exactly why I said what I
just said, and I'm gonna explain to you why I
said what I just said. I I said that I'm

(00:56):
I'm I think I'm very sleepy right now, and so
I said to you, oh, this is going to be
a low key Gecko session, because I was trying to
absolve myself from responsibility in the event that my sleepiness
makes this a bad conversation, and so I was giving

(01:17):
myself an out so that if you know, for example,
I dozed off while we were talking or spaced out,
instead of being like, oh, he's kind of spacing out
on me while I'm talking to him, you'll just be like,
oh wait, I'm I'm expecting a chill Gecko session. Do
you understand the psychology of this?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
But it's totally fine and Lyle. You know, if you
want to tap out any point, this is your show
and you can do whatever you want, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
I appreciate you giving me permission to do that. I
genuinely might take up on that. But for now, what's up, shrimp?
What do you want to talk about today?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Not much?

Speaker 3 (01:58):
You know, I'm a post grad and you know, living
in this pretty much recession and just having a tough
time with money, and you know, I'm just struggling along
a little bit, but looking for some camaraderie. You know,
I feel like I'm a good company on this podcast,

(02:19):
so I'm just looking for maybe some advice. I hear
you talking about iris and I'm already involved in all that,
and I'm just like, what else can I do?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
You know? You want? You want advice. You want financial advice.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I don't want financial advice. I think I'm just kind
of like looking to moan a little bit about it's
tough out here for the postgrads, and I'm just saying,
y'all are alone.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
How I have I have talked about iras on here
a lot, haven't, I like a weird amount?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, yeah, And you you're pretty financially literate. It's actually
pretty inspiring to hear about. I do take a lot
of your advice.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
From when I listened to Man, I gotta get a
I gotta get in with Vanguard or something. Do you
know what a high yield savings account is? I was
talking to my friend the other day about about high
yield savings accounts.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I do, and I'm you know, I had to actually
pay a lot of taxes because I took money out
of an IRA and that I was completely oblivious to
the fact that you can't do that. And I was like, crap,
So no, not.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
IRN, not an IRA, A high yield savings account. God,
this is exciting banter.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
A high yield we can talk about something different.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, it's not yours, although that's not it's not your fault.
I'm just I'm just snarking it up.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Uh No, I don't have a high yield savings account.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Anyway, what did you graduate with?

Speaker 4 (03:54):
So?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I graduated with a degree in ecology and evolutionary biology.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
That sounds real. How come you can get a job
with that? You know what is annoying?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Job?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Okay, you have a job. You have a job. You
have a job. I was about to say, if you
you're a v you're a V tuber?

Speaker 2 (04:13):
No, no, no, I'm a zoo keeper.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Oh I thought you were a v tuber.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I was like, all right, no, that would be worse.
Oh god, I probably actually would make more money doing that, honestly.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
I here's the thing is, if you graduate with something real,
you deserve to make some amount of money. Like if
you went if you go to school for like English
or film or like theater arts. You know, it's if
you and you have no money that makes sense. But
if you if you went to it for like biology
or chemistry or something, they should give you some money.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, I mean the unfortunately thaying you know, I wanted
to be a zoo keeper, and I wanted to work
with idotic cannibals, and you know, I've done that, and
I love my job. And there's a passion tax. You know.
I've heard other people that called in before I talk
about this. But you know, you get the job you
love after college, and then you're kind of paying the
unfortunate I guess, yeah, passion tax, and that you're not making,

(05:14):
you know, necessarily the wage you should make, you know,
but the price you pay is that you go into
work every day enjoying what you do.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
You keep a zoo, I do I do.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
For the sake of anonymity. I won't say what zoo,
but it is an azy a zoo. And yeah, I
take care of rhinos and giraffes and africans of stock.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
What's an asy a zoo?

Speaker 5 (05:42):
So asy a.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
That's it's the Association of Using Aquariums. So that's like
the highest, uh kind of governing body of animals and captivities.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh so you work at like a major zoo.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah yeah, dude, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Do you like because zoos are interesting because they're like
half like entertainment tourist attraction and half educational center.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah yeah, And so I like initially wanted to get
into this for the sake of conservation, and you know,
saving species out in the wild. So a lot of
like what we do in captivity translates to what they're
doing for research and conservation stuff out in the wild.
So I feel good about that.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
But yeah, it's nice.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I also like getting to interact with the guests like
day to day and like educating people. That's a funny
part of my job.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Now, what's your favorite animal at the zoo?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I do love the rhinos. I can't lie. I'm a
rhino girl.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
What is it about the rhinos?

Speaker 2 (06:55):
They're kind of just like big horses. They're super for
like gentle, they love getting scripted, they train really well,
and the crash that we have are just a munch
of super sweet older folks and yeah, they're they're really

(07:16):
good kids. I love them a lot.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
M m.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
But now, okay, so if you're not making that much money, now,
is there like, uh, what's the career trajectory in zoom keeping?
Can you over the years? Is it like a long
term career field?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
That's just the thing. It's like a lot of the
people in my position have been in the field for
fifteen years or so, and it's like kind of they're
still kind of in the same position so unfortunate that
I'm a younger keeper that I've gotten the privilege to
kind of move pretty quickly ahead in their career as

(07:57):
opposed to some other people. But I think I'm as
of like seeing like, oh God, I don't know if
I can, you know, do this forever. As as happy
as I am, I don't think it's like viable, But
I think afterwards I probably want to do something with
like USCA or like US Fish and Wildlife. I think
that would be a probably a little bit more of
a solid long term career plan. But yeah, for now,

(08:20):
it's it's fun getting to interact with all these animals
every day and train them and you know, be part
of their lives.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
What's going on in uh US fish and Wildlife are they?
Is that? Like you're do you work for the governments?
Do you go fishing? What do you do?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, Honestly, I'm not like totally sure. I'm not totally
well versed in that career. I don't know many people,
if any, like that are part of it. But yeah,
it is part of the government. So those are the
people that kind of enforce like fishing allotments, stand force
like hunting laws and that kind of thing, which you know,

(09:04):
I didn't grow a cohunting or anything, but you know,
I think it's for the sake of conservation of like
you know, the United States sparks and wildlife, so you
know it's a good cause. But as of recently, you
know the recent trunk stuff. You know, a lot of
these governments have got those agencies, uh have just gotten

(09:28):
their budget slash. So you know, we'll see in a
few years you know, what the status of hiring for
those agencies looks like. But I would be interested in
working for those I think that's a good noble cause.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
What's an animal one world? What's an animal that most
people don't know about? Like everyone knows about monkeys and giraffes,
stuff like that. But what give us an animal where
it's like I didn't even know. I thought, I give
us an animal that'll make a think the animals.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's a super good question. Let me think. Okay, I'll
give you guys one animal that I'm about to get
on grounds at my VIOO. It's called a diker. It's
the d u I K E R. And there are antelope,
yeah dyker, so yellow backed diker is one of those animals.

(10:26):
They're really neat. They're kind of like little forest antelope
that are just kind of strange. I recommend looking it up.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
And now what do they eat?

Speaker 2 (10:43):
And so you all sorts of brows, which is like
trees and all these all sorts of vegs kind of
similar to like a what a goat would eat you know,
mm hm. But they're they're kind of neat.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Look do they get by? Do they get eaten by anything?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, so they can get eaten by like leopards. That's
probably the most common thing. Earlier today I was doing
exams on sable antelope. Those guys are pretty neat or
my favorite, like weird marsupial is a water apossum. I've

(11:29):
looked those up. They're pretty neat.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Would you rather have? All right, you can have a
million dollars, but all dikers have to die? What would
you have if you do? No?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I would not take my million dollars. The dikers can live.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
What what about like? Uh, what about like a species
of bug? Like something no one cares about? Like you like, like,
is there any species of bug that you would eradicate
from the world and you get a million dollars?

Speaker 2 (12:08):
It's just super like simple answer, But mosquitoes can go.
They don't serve any like ecological purpose. They're pretty they're
pretty crappy. Bug.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Now, I now I'm going to fight you on this.
What is what does it mean to serve an ecological purpose?
Because fucking doesn't doesn't simply existing cause an ecological purpose.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
That's a fair point. Yeah, I mean, I will say
ecological purpose in the form I guess in terms of insects.
That could be like digesting bacteria like the tritis, anything
like that. Insects are pretty important in our world. But
mosquitos genuinely don't serve any benefit. They don't enrich any

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of the the water supply. They aren't pollenizer pollinators, excuse me,
like as an insect, they aren't really helping plants or
animals in any way. They're just kind of vectors for disease.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
So you'd get rid of all of them for a
million dollars, I would.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
There are people trying to figure out how to do
that already. But yeah, I think they're it's kind of
a a easy answer.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
But yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't
judge on this show, but I think that's pretty fucked up.
What's your name again, Shrimp? Shrimp, Shrimp? Is there anything
else you want to say to the people of the
computer before we go?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
It costs your dollars to be kind? Just be nice
to people.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
What if somebody asks you for what? Hold on? Hold on?
Hold on? There have been many times where somebody asks
me for a dollar and it would be nicer to
give them the dollar, And sometimes I do. Sometimes I don't,
but sometimes I do. But that in that situation, it
doesn't cost zero dollars to be kind.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I guess that's fair.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Fine, So it costs, but there are I would rephrase
what you said. I would say it costs zero dollars
to be kind in certain situations, and in other situations
it will cost more money.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
That's a that's a fair point. I did get heckled
by a musician holding a bucket recently for a dollar,
and I digital kinds by giving him a dollar. And
I guess that wasn't free.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
So you're right, Thank you, shrimp.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
You're welcome, lyle, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I'm trying to think of more. Uh, what when else
does it cost of Christmas? If you've given people Christmas presents,
that's nice. That costs money. Yeah, there's no there's a
lot of ways we're being kind costs money. I'm trying
to go more. It's like most ways of being kind,
like the ways that if the ways of being kind

(15:13):
that don't cost money are kind of bullshit, Like holding
a door open for someone that doesn't cost any money,
but nobody's actually, nobody's life is genuinely positively impacted that
much by someone holding a door open for them. So
if you want to be really kind to somebody, give
them three thousand dollars, they will that will impact their

(15:36):
life and give them joy, but it won't be free
for you. Lyle, Hey, Hi, who are you? Who are you?

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Yeah? My name is Jay. How are you?

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Jay? How am I? I'm actually doing all right today.
I feel like actually I feel pretty stable. I feel
pretty normal. I feel safe. Do you feel safe?

Speaker 5 (16:09):
I do feel safe. I'm at home with my wife
and children, and yeah, I feel I feel pretty safe. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
How long have you had a wife and child?

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Well, I've been married for about five years and we
just had our third kid on the twelfth of last month.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Three children. Let me ask you some is there anything
like what how old were you when you how old
were you when you had your first kid.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
I was twenty four, about to turn twenty five.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Wow, okay, is your how significantly different is your life
before you had kids to after?

Speaker 5 (16:55):
Hmmm? I would I would say it's been a very
post positive change. Before I had kids, I was just
kind of running the mut and doing a bunch of
drugs and not really caring. And now that I have kids,
I'm stable and work a lot and have responsibility and

(17:20):
I take that very seriously. So yeah, I would say
it's pretty significant change.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
What kind of drugs were you doing?

Speaker 5 (17:28):
Oh man, a lot. I was drinking, smoking weed, snorting demali, cocaine, LSD, mushrooms. Yeah,
just parting it up, you know.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
And have you completely utterly ceased the drug use since
you had your first kid or have you found some time?

Speaker 5 (17:53):
You know?

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Look, you don't want to be a piece of shit
alcohol like that, but do you are you ever like, hey, honey,
can you watch the kids for a weekend so I
can do a bunch of drugs?

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Definitely not. You know I stopped smoking weed about a
year ago. Well, I can't say completely. I've smoked about
four times since last March, and I drink pretty regularly.
But nothing crazy. I'll drink you know, maybe four beers

(18:25):
four to six beers a couple of times a night,
I mean a couple of times weekly, so you know,
nothing significant. But I just want to say really quick,
holy shit, I am talking to lyle I. Bro. I
was just watching you on YouTube and talking to my

(18:45):
wife because I've been listening to you for like five years,
and then I saw that you were alive and I
called you, and Bro, I cannot believe I am actually
talking to you right now. I have called you probably
over five hundred times away of the years.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Wow, this is just awesome, dude. Thanks man.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yeah, Bro, I enjoy your content. I love watching your
YouTube videos. I listened to you at work all the time.
I listened to your podcast daily. I just want to
say that I just like, Bro, this is awesome. Like
I can't believe I got connected to you.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Thank you. That makes me. That makes me feel really nice.
I always, yeah, I get in my head all the
time about like, oh, I don't know if people still
listen to this show. I've been thinking about that, uh
the entire time I've been doing it, even like I've
six months in. I was like, I don't know how

(19:43):
long this journey is gonna last. So to have someone
listening for five years is very very nice. I appreciate that.
What did you say your name is? Did I get
your name?

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Yeah, let's just say my name is Jay Jay?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
All right? Well interesting, Okay, So I have a lot
of things about your life that I'm generally curious about.
But if you've listened to the show for so long,
I have to ask, is there anything that you always,
as you've listened, thought that you might want to talk
about when you got the chance to talk.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, definitely. And I think talking about my
life now was a good preface to what I would
want to discuss if you would like to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, hit me.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
All right? Well, man, when I was fifteen, you know,
I grew up in a pretty abusive household, both with
my stepdad. My mom she wasn't too bad, but my
stepdad was pretty bad and my dad was pretty bad.
And I ran away from my mom's house and I
was on the run for man, I don't know, like

(20:58):
three months. I stopped going to school and when when
they found me, they put me into like this. Uh man,
I'm not sure what to call it. I would say
it was like kind of a holding stage where I
was there with a bunch of other kids, and man,

(21:19):
it was kind of like a like a juvenile pod, right,
but it wasn't like jail, like they couldn't touch you.
You could leave. So I ended up doing that. So
I'm in Utah and at that point I ended up
in Salt Lake with this kid I had met at
that at that center, and uh, we ran away. It

(21:44):
was like man nine or ten at night, and we
hopped on the tracks which connects like the the Wahsatch Front,
which is just the mountain range. So we hopped on
the tracks and we rode out to Salt Lake, hoping
that no one would try to check our tickets, and
no one did. And then we got off in Salt Lake

(22:07):
in the Rose Park area and we just kind of
walked around and we were just like, man, we should
get some weed. Like, let's try to find some weed.
So we ended up at the seven to eleven. We
met this homeless guy and he was like, yeah, come
back and we could smoke weeds. So he had like

(22:27):
this little stack sort of set up behind like this
car wash, So we smoked some weed with him. We
spent the night and he was like, yeah, you can
come back if you don't have a place to stay,
you know. And he wasn't like weird or anything like.
He was just you know, helping us out really and
they we were like okay. So the next day we

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came back towards the end of the night and he
ended up getting like some meth. So I'm fifteen away
from this place, I'm on the run again, and we
smoked math all night and so like, man, I remember

(23:14):
I had checked the time and I was like, what
time is it and it was like, you know, nine
am or something, and I was like, holy crap, Like
we were up all night, bro, And I was just wandering,
like I don't I think it was like West Valley
at that point. I don't even know where I was.
A cop ended up picking me up. I turned sixteen
in juvenile detention and spent a year in a boys

(23:37):
home and yeah, bro, just an absolutely insane time.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
And how what that was? That was over the course
of three months.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
Well not the whole thing. So, like I said, I
ran away when I was fifteen, and like, I was
on the run for three months then they found me.
I was in that place for like a week or
two before me and this kid decided to run away,
and I would say I was on the run at
that point for another I don't know, a couple of weeks,
maybe a month, and then, like I said, I got

(24:19):
picked up by a cop. He realized who I was.
He put me in this like like this kid's home
again when they were gonna transport me up back. So
I spent a couple I think it was like a
month in Juvie, like I said, I spent I turned
sixteen in Juvie. And then they were trying to find

(24:43):
like a rehab center for me, and so I spent
a year in that boy's home in like the middle
of Utah because I was considered a flight risk, so
it was in the middle of nowhere, so there was
nowhere to go. And yeah, then I completed that successfully

(25:05):
and my life just continued to move forward.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
M M.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
And did you end up going to college after this
or did you? Did you graduate high school?

Speaker 5 (25:17):
So I didn't graduate per se because no one would
let me in. I ended up getting my ged and
right now I am trying to complete my bachelor's What
do you do for what I've been going So I
worked for a landscaping company, so I do like a
multitude of things there. I do like the fertilizing part

(25:41):
of it. And then also over the winter when it's
less busy, I'm pretty tech savvy. I built them a website,
and like I said, I'm going to college and I'm
trying to pursue pursue a marketing degree. So right now
I'm helping them with marketing, and over the winter, I

(26:03):
help them with marketing. I do like social media posts
and Google ads and yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
So, and what's the story of how you Is it
your your wife right now? Is this the mother of
all three of your kids?

Speaker 5 (26:22):
Yep, yep, you married for five years.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
What's the story of how you met her?

Speaker 5 (26:29):
So we met on Facebook dating out of all of
the things, and so she was about an hour away,
and I went up and we kind of hit it off,
and then we kept talking. And yeah, that's been the
story ever since. We met the summer of twenty twenty

(26:55):
and we had our first go ahead, go ahead, sorry,
oh yeah, I was just gonna say we met the
summer of twenty twenty, and we had our daughter the
summer of twenty.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
One, and no drugs you said, we're totally done with
drugs now.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, like I said, since last March, I
quote unquote, I guess have quit weed, but I've smoked
four times in the past year. But like I said,
I drink beer. But yeah, I don't do anything anymore.
I take the responsibility of being a dad very seriously,

(27:41):
and I bust my ass at work and try to
get over time. And yeah, no drugs, man, no drugs.
I take the responsibility of providing for my children very seriously.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
How is how is that responsibility going for you?

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Are you enjoying it? Are you feeling fulfilled and happy
and safe and all those good things?

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Man? I mean, don't get me wrong, I am fulfilled.
It's just a lot, especially you know, I have a
four four year old, a two year old and a
one month old, and it's it's like a circus. I

(28:32):
love them a lot. It's just sometimes it's very stressful
and and I don't I don't, I don't know how
to express those feelings. It's like I am, I'm definitely fulfilled.
I love them a lot. Sometimes though I wish we

(28:52):
would have waited until we were a little more stable.
And it's not like we're not stable. You know, my
wife and I we both work and we have a
decent sized apartment, and but it's definitely a lot. You know,
I'm gonna turn twenty nine in a couple of months,

(29:15):
and it's definitely a lot right now. You know, like
people at work they're eight six years older and they
don't have three kids, And I don't know. Sometimes I'm
just like, man, what would it be like if we
weren't so financially stressed, you know what I mean. So,

(29:38):
but I definitely enjoy being a parent. Bro. I love
them so much and they make me so happy, and
but it's definitely very stressful to try to make everything work,
you know, rent and food and diapers and wipes and

(29:58):
you know, blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
So but I bet it makes you. My understanding of
it is that it puts you very much like in life.
You know, there's not a lot of time to you know,
fritter away thinking about bullshit when you have, you know,
all that responsibility.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
Yeah, definitely, Like I said, I work full time, and
you know, I come home and my wife works nice
because child cares insanely expensive, and so I come home
and she leaves and I take care of them, and
when I put them to bed, I do school. I'm
in school full time. It's all online. Yeah, there's not

(30:41):
a lot of time to to worry about bullshit. I
guess you just got to do it. And I know
at a certain point in my life financial stress will
go away. My wife. My wife wants to do school
and I'm currently doing my school, and you know, hopefully
it will all pay off in a couple of years,

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will be finding like financially stable for once in our life,
and everything will just kind of be smooth sailing. That's
the hope and the dream of of course.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
What is your name again? I know you've made one
up for me.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
Oh it's Jay. Jay.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Well, thanks for sharing your life story. Jay is interesting. Yeah,
I've been thinking a lot about like, uh, like kids
and what life with kids would would look like. So
it's definitely a subject that I'm quite fascinated in. But
it seems across the board the people that I've talked
to about it feel as though the responsibility that it

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gives them is like a good thing, uh and makes them,
you know, feel fulfilled and nice. So I appreciate you
giving giving us your perspective on on how it's a
role in your life.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
Man, can I can I ask you a question?

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Lyle?

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, go ahead and hit me.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
Like I said, I've listened to you forever, and I
listened to like I listened to your podcast today and
just like five minutes ago, I was watching you on YouTube.
Do you have someone special in your life? Like, I
don't hear anyone really asking about you.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
People ask about me. People do ask about me.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Not very often though.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
You look just at the beginning, Look at the beginning
of this call, you asked me how I was doing.
That Was that was asking about me?

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Right? I? Yeah, I guess that was.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Asking about me. I feel like I volunteer a decent
amount of maybe of I guess I volunteer a decent
amount of I guess emotional information, uh like, less logistical information.
But I'm not married. If that's what you're asking.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
No, that's not I would. Do you have anyone special
in your life?

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Do I have anything that maybe that maybe.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
You feel like, yeah, I could have kids, Yeah, I
could spend forever with this person person.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
No, I don't have anyone in my life that I'm
at this moment, like ready to spend forever with.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
Right, right.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
That being being I think being married and having children
would be nice, but I also feel it's something I
would definitely like to do in my lifetime.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
But I could see you being a great parent, just
like like I don't know, like just listening to you
and watching you all these years, like I feel like
I know you in a sense even though we've never met, right,
And I feel like you would be a very good parent,

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Like you're just like calm, collective, and I don't know,
some of the insights you have have really helped you
know in my life and them, I feel like you'd
be a good parent, Lyle, I feel like you'd be
a big ass dad.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
You want to fucking be my son, I'll adopt you.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Hell yeah, even though I'm older than you.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Hell yeah, I'll be your son. I'll be your I'll
be your son. You can be my son, and I'll
be I'll be your father, and h your children. Your
children could be my grandchildren and and that way, and
then you can see. Then you can see for yourself
whether or not I would be a good father. You
can see for yourself. I'll feed you, I'll uh what

(34:47):
I'll change your diaper. I'll do it all. You'll be like, dude,
I'll be literally you'll be spade out on a table
and you can take a ship in your underwear and
I'll change them and you could be like I was right, dude,
Liles of gre are you fucking dead?

Speaker 5 (35:03):
I don't think you want to see that, but hey,
if you want to go that route, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Bro, what's your day? Is there anything else you want
to say to thee I'm sorry I forgot the fake
name that you gave me again, but I'm bad with it.
Is there anything else you want to say to the
people of the computer Before we go?

Speaker 5 (35:18):
I just want to say, like, this is awesome. I
didn't expect to get through. I really enjoyed talking to you,
and I hope you keep doing this podcast. I know
you have you know your own doubts as a human,
but Bro, just keep pushing forward. And like I I

(35:39):
every every day when I get to work, I look
on Spotify and see if a new podcast came out,
and if it does, You're the first thing I listened
to in the morning. So just just keep pushing. Bro.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Hey, thanks for having me in your ears. Man, I
really appreciate it. I'll I'll keep seeing you around the
universe of the computer, my friends. And congratulations on your
beautiful life.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
You know what. Congratulations on your beautiful life as well. Le.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Thank you, buddy. Hey, take care man, you too. That
was a sweet guy. That was a nice guy. That's
gonna be my son one day. I respect, respect having
the responsibility to have kids. Do I have somebody special
in my life?

Speaker 4 (36:27):
You know?

Speaker 1 (36:28):
I am? You know? Nah, you know whatever. All right,
let's keep going. Hi.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
What's your name, Darren?

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Darren? What's up? Darren?

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Isn't that much bro, It's a cloudy day. Decided to
call you, and I'm surprised I got through.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Here we are, Darren. Here we are, Darren. Here we are.
We're talking on a podcast cast listened to by at
least one hundred people, which is pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
We're chatting, we're chatting. We're alive. What's up?

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, how's it going? Man, Let's talk.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
It's going like I will say, life is going all right.
But you know, I'm living life, you know, trying to
have a good time. You know, we're here in the earth. Yeah,
I mean, I decided to call you, and I'm the
surprise that I got through. That's amazing. It's it's it's
freaking amazing.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Did you have anything you want to talk about today, Darren?
It's fine if not, we can just palor around.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Well, I guess I'll say light you. You know, well,
what will you thinking about? What is life like? What?
What's the point of living?

Speaker 1 (37:50):
What is life? And what's the point of living? Those
are great questions. I've been wrestling with a lot of
those questions, and you know, Darren, I have realized something.
I've realized something, Darren. Do you know what I've realized.
I've realized that the questions, what's the point of living?
What is life? You know? What happens after we die?

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What is consciousness? Why am I?

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Me?

Speaker 1 (38:13):
And other people are other people? I've been really I've
just deeply been wrestling with a lot of these questions
in kind of a scary existential way for about two months.
It's been really scary and weird, and I felt like
I've been in a Bizarrokohan Brothers movie or something, just

(38:36):
by the nature of my own consciousness being a bit
of a torment for it, and not because I'm dark
and cool, but just because it's bizarre. It's a weird
thing to be alive. And I've been thinking about the
answers to these questions and then I realized, wait a minute,
I'm actually not dark and cool at all, because people
have been trying to answer these questions since the fucking

(39:01):
dawn of man. I mean, philosophers and whatever, science, fucking
people and religion people, everyone's been trying to answer these questions.
It's people way smarter than me. I mean, I've dedicated
two months of going on Reddit and talking to chat
GPT other people. They dedicate their whole lives. They read books,

(39:22):
they write books, They try to find the answers to
the universe. They take science, they do the theory of
the unit, whatever the fuck that is by that fucking
the guy in the wheelchair, you know, Okay, And you
know what's the craziest part about all these people throughout
the history of consciousness looking for the answers to all
these questions, Darren, do you want to know the craziest thing.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
What's the craziest thing.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
They don't have an answer, Darren. They don't have an
objective answer to any of these questions. So my dumb
ass is not gonna get high and figure it out
right now and probably not ever in my lifetime, and
possibly not ever for the entirety that any life is

(40:07):
ever any all things. And so you know what I'm
gonna do in the face of that information, Darren. Yes,
I'm gonna go on walks. I'm gonna hang out with
my friends. I'm gonna make cool interesting things. I'm gonna
eat a chicken parmesan sandwich. I'm gonna watch a YouTube
video that goes through the history of weird pop tart flavors.

(40:31):
And then I'm gonna die, And you know what, it's
gonna be as nice as it can be. That's what
I'm gonna do.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
I could agree with that right now. I'm just you know,
living life and putting putting my dog. You know it's
a good thing. Life is, you know, having a good time.
Life is living with your pets, Life is living good
with your friends, and life is you know what, did
whatever you want have a good time. You're hearing this
thing called earth, and you know what make the best

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out of it?

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Do you think the you know it's is when people
would say before I went crazy, I people would say, oh,
are we like the idea that we're living in a
simulation that never made sense, That never made sense to me.
And then lately the idea I've come around to it

(41:24):
that we might be living in a simulation.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
You might never know. We could have taken the rip
red pill, blue pill sometime in our life, and you know,
either we're living here in this life or we're living
here in this simulation, but who knows. Man, it's it's
it's like we're living in GTA. You know, life is
fucking wild and things could happen left to right.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
You ever seen The Truman Show?

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Yes, I have, it's a good movie.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, I think about that ship not that like life's
the TV show. But it's a very narcissistic thing to think.
But there also is like weird, like your consciousness is
the only consciousness that's verifiable. There's a word for this.
I think I talked about this in the end of
recent podcasts. And so you could argue that because you're

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the only conscious being that you can like truly verify
their consciousness, that you actually are at the center of
the universe and you are the only living thing and
your personal life is a simulation and you live in
the Truman Show.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
It's like saying, like there's infinite stars. You know, each
star has its own life, and we could be one
of those stars in this infinite universe. You know, I'm
a sucker for galaxies and space and stars like that.
But you know I always look up into the sky.
I'm like, you know what that's in the whole? Another
planet when I'm thingling like that, and you know it

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could be different.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
What planet do you want to visit the most?

Speaker 4 (42:57):
To be honest, I do not know. But if is
out there and the stars, sky space stuff like that,
I would like to visit a planet where it's like,
you know what, life is good. Life is better than
what I'm living at.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Would you ever go to the Moon?

Speaker 4 (43:15):
I would love to.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
What would you want to do there?

Speaker 5 (43:20):
Space walker?

Speaker 4 (43:21):
You know, space jump and you know, just throw myself
out there, levitate, you know, and just discover moon people
out there. If it's possible.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Bro, if you were on the Moon, you would be
the moon person.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Yeah, it's true. I'll be the only moon person on
the Moon. On the Moon.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Who are you? Darren? Who are you? What is your
life like?

Speaker 4 (43:46):
My life is I'm a guy who likes going to shows.
That's to work day job from seven to three. And
you know, enjoys a beer here and there. Why not
enjoys a beer in there, but enjoys the beer every day.
And just like pittying my dogs. You know, I'm a
dog person. But it's just life. How life is treating

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me right now. I'm trying to make the best out
of it.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Let me think, here, uh, what what is your day job?

Speaker 4 (44:21):
I do landscaping?

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Landscaping? Well, who is that in the background?

Speaker 4 (44:27):
That was my best friend? Works with me too.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
I like how you were about to say friend and
you're like, no, no, no, I must clarify that this
is my best friend.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Yeah, I have a lot. I have a lot of
best friends from since school and they've been we've been
you know, friends ever since then. I considered that I
consider them as family best friends all that.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Do you do? You rank your friends in your head?
Very often? Like oh, this is like, have do you
ever could you tell me you're thanking of all your friends?

Speaker 4 (45:02):
I used to back in my space days, you know,
you could choose your top six, But nowadays it's just like,
you know, they've been there for since I was since
I was introduced to them, and you know they're all
number one.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
To be honest, that's really nice. There's none that you like.
Are you friends with anyone that you're just kind of
friends with because they've been around and you secretly hate them.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Yeah, there was one friend. I'm not sure if I
could say is I'm not sure if I could.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Say his name, but I mean you've you physically can, but.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Idea, we we used to call him Chewbacca, but well
not not Chewboka, but like more like Youbaca in the way.
It was just a joke, a gag. I guess you
could say he was he was a I guess say
he was a good friend. It just you know, he
he I guess he could He tried too much to

(45:57):
be with us. And we can understand, like you try
to hang out with us a lot, but we were
just we weren't just feeling it with him. I mean,
I mean, we we kept him around here and there,
but he was a bit too much sometimes. And yeah,
I guess he was one of those friends here. You know,
he's okay in a way, but you know he was

(46:20):
all right.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
What was it about him that that you felt mm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
He tried to kick it with us almost every day,
but he always buys He always buy his pizza almost
every day.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
So wait is why? Why is is? Do you do
you not want to hang out with your friends every day?

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Well?

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Yeah, I would, but sometimes there's days where he's like,
you know, you try, you try to doing your own thing,
and it's like, you know, you just want you just
want to do your own thing, and you know, every
other day hang out with your friends, but no, this guy,
this guy used to fucking want to hang out every
day of the week, every day of the month, like

(47:05):
be there constantly. I'm like, Okay, I understand you want
to be there, but like, come on, like at least
let me chill for a day or so, like, you know,
like you're cool enough, but it's just it just kind
of gets annoying here and there. You know, I'm not
talking bad about it. He was cool enough, but after
a while, it's it's just it's just like you know what,

(47:26):
I'm like, come on, like, I'm pretty sure you got
other people to hang out with here and there, but
to hang out with me twenty four seven, It's it's
all right, I guess do.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
You think do you think you're fun to hang out
with twenty four to seven.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't say I'm not that fun from
my perspective. I don't know how other how other people
think about me, but I like to have a fun time,
you know, I like to have a good time with people.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
What do you what do you usually do when you're
having a fun time?

Speaker 4 (48:01):
You know, I try to drink with them, you have
a good time, make jokes and and you know it's
just well, I guess whatever, whatever every other people try
to do, you know, just make it, make make make
the whatever time is happening around you, guys the best time.

(48:22):
You know, you can never know when when when it
could be the last day you can hang out with them.
And to me, it's always like yeah, like I'm happy
to see you, but you know, just make the best
out of it.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
What's your name, Darren?

Speaker 5 (48:37):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Did you make a nice guy? Darren?

Speaker 4 (48:43):
I don't see it. I feel like I don't feel
like I'm the best guy. I just try to make
the best of the best of everything.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Why do you what? What made you say that just
now that you don't feel like you're the best guy?

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Because I see other people that make the best of
things with everyone else. And I feel like I'm used
like a regular guy in this earst and I follow
like to me, like like an example, Ozzy Osbourne, that guy,
I wish I could have a life like him. You know,
that guy's a fucking that guy. To me, he's a
fucking legend, and I wish I could have a life

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like him. But not like a drug addict. But I
used to have a life like him. But to me,
I try to I try to live a life like
a rock star. I try to make the best out
of it. I'm sure I've gotten in trouble here and there,
but you know what, I'm just happy to be here,
happy to have their friends, the best friends I have
to be honest, they're brothers to me. Like everyone around

(49:42):
me is like brother to me, and it's his brother sister.
But you know what, it's just life is life?

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Why do you want to live like Ozzy Osbourne?

Speaker 4 (49:57):
I look up I will say, I will look up
to him. He's he's he's a god to me in
a way, but not the not the drug addict part.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Okay, well then tell me, tell me what what parts
do you do you desire for your life that you
scraped from.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Like going going going shows and play in front of
a lot of people. Because I'm I'm a musician myself.
I play drums, and you know, I wish to be
achieve that goal like all he had, I mean, he
still has it. He's old, he's playing in his last
show and fucking Birmingham, which I would wish to go.
But yeah, it's not gonna. That's not gonna.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Birmingham, Alabama.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
U k u k oh?

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:47):
You ever been to the UK?

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Uh? No? But I was planning to go to Dublin
maybe later this year and like in just lie August,
but I don't think that's gonna happen anymore. But maybe,
I mean next year I'll plan to go to Europe
because right now I'm just visiting Japan. That's you know,
that's a fucking amazing spot to visit.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
But you're in Japan right now?

Speaker 4 (51:09):
No, no, no, I wish it was. But I've been
there twice already.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Oh when are you going to Japan?

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Hopefully in Halloween? Oh hopefully?

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Why did you? Why did your Dublin trip get canceled?

Speaker 4 (51:24):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Why did your Dublin trip get canceled?

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Well? Because the thing is is I'm in a financial spot.
It's kind of crappy right now for me. But it just, uh,
it just I'm not sure if I'm gonna have enough
months to go out there, like do that your trip,
then go and do that Japan trip. So I'm kind
of in the pickle if debating and going in Europe

(51:49):
or Japan. But for me, it's just I want to
go to Japan more.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Yeah, I also want to get Japan more. Man, Japan rocks.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
It's amazing. It's crazy because the first time I went,
I like, when I went, I told myself, I'm here
in Japan, a new country, like foreign to me. The
first time I do is try to try a fucking
Japanese resident out there. You know, I'm not gonna try
any American restaurants that are out there. I'll try a
Japanese restaurant out there. I went there fucking amazing, Like

(52:19):
the guy gave me a bors steak, like a bor steak,
never had that before. And I visited that spot. I
visited a guy like two three times when I was there,
and so I'm hey, next time next time I come here,
I'm a fucking visit your restaurant, I said, first thing
I'm gonna do. So I went there again that same
year later later and I walked in and I'm like hey,

(52:42):
and he's like, oh, my best friend. I was like what.
I was like, holy shit, that's that's that's fucking amazing, dude.
Like being recognized, like being remember being remembered by someone
out there, like you've only met once and he remembers
you a couple of months later, and I'm like, dude,
that's fucking amazing.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Mm hmm, that's really nice. You have friends in Tokyo.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
Yeah, you can say friends in Tokyo. It's it's it's cool.
It's it's fucking cool.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Darren. Is there anything else you want to say to
the people of the computer before we go, I.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
Will say, you know, Taro and listening, you know, I listen.
I listen to you on on Spotify cool and on
YouTube this and that. You know. I just you know,
it's it's crazy to be on live right now. I
never thought this is what happens my first time calling,
and it's crazy. Also, I want to say to all

(53:36):
the people that work in landscaping, like me, fucking victims
up because it's a hard work out there. But yeah,
I'm happy to be on therapy. Get go, I'm happy.
You know, it's fucking amazing.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Thank you very much, Darren, have a good rest of
the night.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
I'll show you. Hold up, how are you doing? How
are you?

Speaker 1 (53:54):
How am I doing? How am I doing? Yeah? You
want to know how I'm doing, Darren?

Speaker 4 (53:59):
Yes, tell me, tell me how are you doing?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
You want to know how I'm doing? You motherfucker. You
want to know how I'm doing?

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Yes? Yes?

Speaker 1 (54:08):
All I want to do is eat Right now, I'm
just like, all I want to do? Are you? I
don't know where my ambition went. I mean, it's still here.
I'm very ambitious mentally, but physically I'm just oh my god,
all I want to do is like, fuck dude, right now,
my like, if I could do any you know, you

(54:29):
know the question if you can wave a magic wand
and me doing anything with your life? Yeah, I've been thinking,
and you know a lot of throughout my life, A
lot of the answers to that question. If usually involved
like you know, I don't know, being on a like
like some kind of something something creative, or you know,

(54:54):
being in an orgy or something like that. But right now.
If you I really mean this, If I could be
doing anything with my life in this very moment, right now,
I would be eating. I would eat two pints of
Ben and Jerry's peanut butter s'mores ice cream. No, I
would get one pint of Ben and Jerry Peanut butter

(55:16):
smores ice cream and then another pint of Ben and
Jerry Peanut butter half baked, and I would just do that.
I don't know why. I don't know I and I
that's all I want to do with my life right now.
That's like my career goal right now is to eat
that fucking ice cream. I don't know why. And I
don't even feel guilty, man, It's just that's just how
I feel. I don't think I'm gonna do it. I don't,

(55:39):
but that just feels like like in the narrative of
my life, it feels like that's the next chapter, is
to eat two pints of Ben and Jerry's ice cream.
That's how I feel right now.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
You know what, goot go, I con vision that. I
hope you do that, you know, live your best life,
and you know I'll help you eat those two points
of ice and you better fucking enjoy man, like enjoy it.
Fucking enjoy it like enjoy man, You're gonna love it.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
So you're a great guy, Darren, You're great. I'm sorry
I forgot your name, but and I don't even You're
just right now. You're a chill, fucking guy, Darren.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
Hey, So hope hopefully I can call you again. You know,
I hope to talk to you again. And you know
I love listening to your podcast. I listened to I
listened to you in Spotify YouTube, like I said, and
you know, hopefully, hopefully in the future again another call
with you, and you know I'll be fantastic talking to you.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Again, Darren, Keep living your best life. Man, all right,
You're you're something special.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
YouTube therapy, get go.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
I love you, man, love it too, Darren. Bye bye.
But Darren's a bad influence. He's a He's a super
cool guy. Though he's a bad influence. There's no way
I should eat two fucking pints of Ben and Jerry's
ice cream. But he's a good guy. I really did

(57:06):
feel that way talking to him. He really seemed like
it just a fucking Sometimes you just meet a person
or you chat with them and they're and You're just like,
what a fucking real ass motherfucker. He just felt that way.
He just felt like a no bullshit, no fake shit guy.
His hero is Ozzy Osbourne. Doesn't make any sense. I've

(57:31):
never heard a person say anything close to that, and
it just that just makes me like him more. Shout
out to Darren. Oh my god, Hi, Hi, what's your name?

Speaker 7 (57:43):
Andrea?

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Andrea? What's up Andrea? How is life going?

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (57:48):
It's going good. Yeah. I just came back from a
target with my mom.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Okay, how old are you? Andrea four? How was going
to target with your mom?

Speaker 7 (58:06):
It was good. Yeah, I'm big into Quarterzip, so I
got a new Quarterzip. I was like, nothing to say
because I didn't expect that you can get on.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Going to target with your mom is a psychedelic experience.
A lot of the things that when I was a
kid bored me. I've come to realize are very very
psychedelic experiences, like sitting at the sitting at the dinner
table with your mom. It's psychedelic. You're on a planet.

(58:41):
You're in the illusion of whatever I'm having. You know,
you're you can have a sober psychedelic experience being a
target with your mom. You can look around and go,
what the fuck is all this? What am I? What
is this camera that's always on in my head? That's
you know, And your mom's looking at you and she's saying,

(59:05):
though this might be cheaper than this thing, and you're
you just have no idea, You're like, who even are you?
Have you ever wondered like, is my mom real?

Speaker 5 (59:16):
No?

Speaker 7 (59:17):
I mean I was. She was. We were at five
guys before I came home, and she was just talking
to me and I just like was listening, and I
just like was looking in her eyes, and I was like, wow,
Like she's a lot older than she was when I
was like twelve, and she like physically looks like older,

(59:42):
not bad, but like she just obviously looks older than
from when I was younger like that, and that kind
of like hit.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
But yeah, yeah, I've had that moment too, because I've
had that moment too, because I've you know, I don't
live in the same city as my parents, but I
living near them, but every time I go back to
see them, they look older. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:00:10):
Yeah, yeah. Not to change the subject, but when you
were doing the when you were doing the get mail thing,
which is like my my favorite thing. I sent you
an email back in like January. But aside from like
everything in the body of it, my my ps was,

(01:00:31):
what is your favorite Celsius flavor?

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Oh? Did I answer?

Speaker 7 (01:00:39):
No, you didn't. It was very heartbreaking.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Listen, what is my favorite Celsius flavor depends on what
kind of mood I'm in. Let me tell you a
brief Let me tell you a brief story. It's it's
such a brief story. It's like a one sentence story.
It's not even a story. I was. I was got.
I was like really depressed for like a few days

(01:01:06):
in a row, and I just couldn't I couldn't be here.
I couldn't like be present in the universe. I was
too locked into my brain and thoughts in a bad way.
And I went to the grocery store. And I went
to the grocery store. I go to has a Celsius fridge.

(01:01:28):
It's a its own fridge dedicated to Celsius. And I
opened it and I saw that they had a Penia
colt It's called pli a vibe. It's a it's a
Penia Colada flavor. And I looked at it and I went, ooh,
Plia vibe. I said that out loud, and that was

(01:01:51):
that was the first time I felt connected to reality.
And I think three days is just was like, was
like just the the excitement of a Pina Colada, Celsius.
And then after that, I was like, oh, okay, all right,
that was good. That was a great moment for me

(01:02:12):
because I was like, all right, I can still maintain
interface with the universe. And I did get it. I
did drink it. Yeah, that ship. That shit cures depression.
By the way, Celsius, I don't know what it does
in the long term to your actual health, but it'll
make you feel like God if you drink a couple
of them.

Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
I I always have a fridge stock to Celsius. That
is that I'm I almost tell like every flavor of it.
So that's why I felt qualified enough to ask the questions.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
I just felt in that moment. I was like, ooh,
play a vibe and I was like, oh, there, I am,
I'm back here.

Speaker 7 (01:02:48):
I'm no, I'm not a big fan of Pina Colada,
so I can't I can't really vibe with you there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Ah, yeah, motherfucker, Okay, what's yours?

Speaker 7 (01:02:59):
Well, the one nutrition store near me has all the
Celsius flavors there, and they have like a cherry coke flavor,
and I feel like a lot of places can't mess
up coke flavor. That one's pretty good. Other than that,
other than that, they haven't the Arctic vibe. Pretty basic flavor,

(01:03:19):
but it's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
I like the Arctic Vibe. I like that. By the way,
this is not a sponsored Celsius thing. I just I
genuinely love Celsi. I was looking at yeah. By the way,
I also I love the cherry coke one, the coke one.
If I'm in like a no nonsense, no bullshit, I
am here to get some shit done mode. I just
get orange, no vibe, no prickly cactus, Sherbert Cola, whatever,

(01:03:45):
bullshit orange, you know, regular orange. I had a grape
one the other day. It sent me crazy. I drank
a Grape Celsius the other night. No, was it, dude,
Maybe this was yesterday? I think, yeah, yesterday, I drank
a Greape Celsius. And then I started I was taking

(01:04:07):
a shit, and I started singing on the toilet, and
I was sending videos of myself on the toilet singing
to my my group chat of friends and I must
have sent like six videos of me just on the
toilet being like I love making diarrhea with my ass

(01:04:29):
and I want to make a movie about diarrhea from
my ass, jud Appa, how will produce my diarrhea movie?
And I'm and I'm just singing and I'm I'm taking
a shit. I made like six of those videos. It
was an awesome day.

Speaker 7 (01:04:49):
Well yeah, what an absolute honor to receive a video
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Yeah, so now it just makes you feel like like
like God, you know, you can do anything absolutely, Yeah,
go ahead and go ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:05:05):
I was just gonna say, just another thing I mentioned
in the email was my my boyfriend actually told me
about your podcast, uh last year, and I've just been
listening to it like almost every day.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Oh, yas man.

Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's good, good one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
A lot of people have told me that they fall
asleep to the podcast.

Speaker 7 (01:05:32):
Oh no, no, I'm active.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
I am very.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Active and cool, cool, cool. I've become I've recently become
a fall asleep to the TV guy. That's what's going
on in my life. It's actually a great development.

Speaker 5 (01:05:47):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
I look forward every night. I put on four hours
of Game Boy Advance Game Trivia and fucking knocks me
right out.

Speaker 7 (01:05:57):
It's the best we've been doing in pop culture. Jeopardy
with Colin Jost.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Oh that's nice.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
I don't know that guy, but he's probably what do
you think he's like in real life?

Speaker 7 (01:06:13):
Probably sits on the toilet after a great Celsius just
sings song.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
I don't know. He seems like a he seems like
a he seems like a pretty together guy. He seems
like like you go to his house and he has
like a bowl of fruit on a on a desk,
and like he goes, he goes, oh, that's a great idea,
and then he like does it?

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
And then he's like he just seems like a normal guy.
I don't know. I don't know him, but he seems
like he has like knives in his house and he
uses him to cut like lettuce.

Speaker 7 (01:06:49):
Are you just going based off of just his name?
Like you don't know who this guy is at all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
I know who Colin just is.

Speaker 7 (01:06:55):
Oh, oh yeah, he's like on I just know him
on there, but I know he's like snl or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Yeah, where do we Where do you think we go
when we die?

Speaker 7 (01:07:12):
Where do we go when we die? I'm not like
super religious or anything. I think that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
We go to.

Speaker 7 (01:07:28):
The sky and we just are in another universe and
we just move can eat whatever and do whatever. You
were just talking to the one guy before, and you,
like you said something about like what's one thing that
you wish you could be doing or whatever right now?

(01:07:50):
And you said about eating the ice cream. But then
I was thinking sometimes the same lines as that, almost
but like being able to eat but there's like no
calories involved.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Yeah, that could be awesome. Oh my god, yeah, there's
no calie. It just makes it as if I mean,
I mean, you can do that. It's called binging and purging,
but it's not recommended.

Speaker 7 (01:08:13):
Yeah, yeah, no, you're pro will not be happy afterwards.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Yeah, doctors do not recommend, but I mean it is
physically possible.

Speaker 7 (01:08:21):
What's your name again, Andrea?

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Andrea, Andrew. We've been talking for about eleven minutes right now,
and I was about to end our conversation, but I
just want to check in with you. Do you feel
like you got everything that you desired from this conversation
and is there anything I can do to make this
conversation a better experience for you before we do leave?

Speaker 7 (01:08:44):
What was I going to talk to you a little
bit more. But you know, I'm just happy that I
was able to get on in the first place.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
We can talk, is there what do you want to
talk about?

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:08:52):
No, like just just shooting the ship. It was just
cool that they about to even talk to you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Let me think, let me think of one more thing
we can talk about before we go.

Speaker 7 (01:09:01):
Oh, well, I guess if you I guess if you
like read my email. Then in the next in the
next gek mail.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Oh did you send another email?

Speaker 7 (01:09:11):
No, I didn't send another one. It's just back in January.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Oh wait, did I ever read your email?

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:09:18):
You never did.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Oh what was in the email?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (01:09:24):
I talked about like my school? No, no, so long ago. Yeah,
I talked about school. But uh, if you want to go,
I don't. I don't want to keep you on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
You can talk about school. We got we're chilling.

Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
Sure, Yeah, okay, I mean yeah, I mean I just
ended my semester.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:09:51):
Basically the whole thing was that like I was just
like I got accepted into like this national uh this
National Society for Radiology, And I just said in the
email that I don't know, I just didn't feel like
I was the right person for the pick.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
M hm, why not?

Speaker 7 (01:10:19):
I don't know, because, uh, there's a lot of people
in my program. Well, my program's like very strict, so
like they only pick twenty people out of like hundreds
of applicants, and I was one of the people to
get picked for that, and like that's cool at all.
It's like based off of like your grades and like

(01:10:40):
how you interview with like all the teachers and stuff,
and there's like six teachers that you interview with, and
you had to do like this professional points thing at
the end of the schooling. It's like another class and
it's like a grade. Then, so like one hundred points
equals one hundred percent for the assignment. Fifty of the

(01:11:06):
points comes from applying to this national society, and then
if you get accepted, that's another fifty points, so then
you get a hundred right there. And I kind of
like applied to it the day before it was due
and you had to like meet a work count for
the essay, and I got below the work count. But

(01:11:28):
then again, there's like you know a bunch of people
who apply for this stuff, but like I only applied
just because of the points I wasn't like expecting to
get accepted. So I'm thinking, like, there's probably other people
out there that probably would have actually cared, I guess
in lack of better terms.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
So that's okay that you got a thing they don't
care that much about.

Speaker 7 (01:11:56):
Yeah, I guess. I guess it was just like a
mental thing, like I don't know, like, yeah, I get
it that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Listen listen, listen, listen. It's all it's all rigged. It's
all rigged. You know, you know it's all rigged. It's
all rigged. Sometimes it's rigged in your favor. Sometimes it's
rigged against your favor, but it is all rigged. And uh,
if it's rigged in your favor, you know, it's not

(01:12:27):
like you took away something from someone else.

Speaker 7 (01:12:33):
Maybe yeah, yeah, I feel it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
So you wrote all that, and then what is your
favorite Selseia's flavor?

Speaker 7 (01:12:42):
Essentially? Yeah, something like that, And then I that I
just like, uh, met you for my boyfriend. Uh, he
used to listen to you a lot, I guess when
he was working at a foundry.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
What's he doing now, who's he listened to?

Speaker 7 (01:13:00):
Who's he listened to?

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (01:13:02):
No one really? I mean he's watching your stream as
you're talking to me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Okay, he's not like, uh, he's not like listening to
the Bad Friends podcast or something.

Speaker 7 (01:13:16):
No, I don't know if you listen to anybody else. No,
he doesn't get to listen to anybody at his new
job like he did in the old one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Oh man, can you tell me?

Speaker 7 (01:13:27):
I said, Hi, he's so highs So what's while?

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
I like this guy?

Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
I like this guy. This guy's a cool guy. I'm
glad that you guys are dating.

Speaker 7 (01:13:38):
Yeah, he's a cool guys.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Chi guy.

Speaker 7 (01:13:43):
What's your name again, Andrea?

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Andrea? Yeah, Andrea? Is there anything else you want to
say to the people of the computer before we go?

Speaker 7 (01:13:55):
Yeah, if you are trying to get into the stream, uh,
call all at minimum?

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
You want.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Good luck on all of your life endeavors.

Speaker 7 (01:14:08):
Andrea, You two wiles like you're talking.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
But what is your name? Cowboy?

Speaker 8 (01:14:21):
My name is Lilith.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Lilith, Yes, Lilith. Where are you calling from? Lilith?

Speaker 8 (01:14:30):
And I'm calling from Germany?

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Ah, yes, Germany. What part did you wear in Germany?

Speaker 8 (01:14:38):
I'm pretty much in the middle, like near Frankfurt. You
might have heard of it. It's like the Silicon Valley
of Germany.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Frankfurt is the Silicon Valley of Germany.

Speaker 8 (01:14:52):
Maybe I don't really know what the Silicon Valley.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
Is, so.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
I respect that. I also use U metaphors and things
that I don't know what the hell they mean, and
I've gotten I've gotten a lot of mileage off of
people not prodding me further on what I mean when
I say certain things because I would not be able
to answer them at all.

Speaker 8 (01:15:18):
It works a lot like when you're talking to someone
who maybe doesn't really question what you're saying, and it works,
But when someone called me out can be really embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Aren't those the best kinds of people?

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
I fucking hate when you start like talking to somebody
and you're saying things and they ask you to elaborate
on them. I hate talking to those ye people. I
want somebody who just will let me say a bunch
of nonsense to them that may or may not make
sense and just goes yeah, totally, absolutely. You know, those
are the best kinds of people. It's people who they

(01:15:54):
don't They don't go what do you mean by Rhode Island?
Is the is the Luxembourg of America? You know? I
guess they're both small. But that's I don't have the
I don't have. I'm yeah, fuck those people. I'm gonna
put it right. I'm gonna put this right here on

(01:16:15):
the Therapy Eco podcast. If you're if you're ever asked,
you know, with your friend and they say something and
you're like, what do you mean by that? You're a
fucking asshole. Never ever ask your friends what they mean
when they say things. Just just say you just say,
that's a great point. You're awesome. Uh, you're the great, amazing.

(01:16:38):
That's I never thought of it that way. What's your
name again? Lilith? Lilith living in Frankfurt, Germany, the Silicon
Valley of Germany. What's up? How's life would you want
to talk about today?

Speaker 8 (01:16:54):
Life is pretty good right now actually, but something really
crazy happened to me recently. Name so, I have I
have one ex boyfriend and right now I actually live
with my second every boyfriend in an apartment. But I
have one ex boyfriend and I this crazy story happened recently,

(01:17:20):
and I'm trying to think of a fake name for
my ex boyfriend, Danny. Okay, all right, So we were
all invited to a mutual friend's birthday party, because I
come from a small town and everybody kind of know

(01:17:41):
each other, or it's not even a small town, but
there's this gigantic friend group of people who are similar,
and so everybody's friends with everything, but everybody also gossips
about each other and kind of secretly hate each other.

(01:18:01):
And we were invited to this birthday party at a
it's like a pub, but it's really cool, and actually
one of our friend's mothers owns the pub, so that's
kind of one of the places where shit goes down.

Speaker 6 (01:18:19):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:18:21):
We were at this birthday party and then my ex
boyfriend also showed up and he kind of invited himself,
so he was also there. And then I had like
like eight beers, and I don't know, I was having fun.
And at some point everybody went outside to smoke cigarettes

(01:18:45):
and I was sitting inside rolling a cigarette actually at
the table, and then he was sitting there and he
was wearing a T shirt with a with a with
like the one of the main characters from my favorite
anime on it and my favorite anime is me on Genesis,
Evan Gallion, Evan Jelian. I don't know how you pronounced it.

(01:19:08):
Do you know it?

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
I'm familiar with it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:12):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 8 (01:19:13):
So he had he had ray on his T shirt
like the blue haired girl who's who's not really real,
and then like a like a funny I don't know,
like a funny phrase on the T shirt as well,
and I was it was really awkward because it was
just the two of us, and I was like, oh,

(01:19:35):
nice shirt, and he was he was being stupid and
I don't know, talking talking to me, but I didn't
really understand. And then he kept saying, oh, you know,
I got a tattoo of the anime ha ha, And
I thought that he was making a joke because I

(01:19:55):
actually do have a tattoo of the face of one
of the characters whose name is Lilith, and so is
my name, Like that's my name, so naturally I got
her face tattooed on my right arm, on my right
under arm. And then I went outside to smoke a cigarette,

(01:20:17):
and then it said, oh, Danny wanted to show me
a tattoo, and then someone else said, oh my god, Lilith,
Danny got the exact same tattoo as you. And then
I was like, okay, hold my cigarette and I went
inside and then I was like, Danny, show me your

(01:20:38):
fucking tattoo. And then he showed me his right under
arm and he has the same tattoo, the exact same
tattoo as me, which also means my name on his arm.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Well, did you guys just get the same tattoo kind
of coincidentally?

Speaker 8 (01:20:56):
No, I've had this tattoo for many, many years, and
he knew I had it for years. It was my
second tattoo, I think, And yeah, I think. I Also
I made him watch the anime because I was always

(01:21:17):
talking about it and he didn't really know it before.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Yeah, did did he like when? When when he showed
it to did he say that he got it because
of you?

Speaker 4 (01:21:31):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:21:33):
Actually he said that he was gonna get some other
stuff tattooed on his right under arm. And I talked
to some of his friends about it, and I even
texted his mom because I was really creeped out, and
I mean, I don't want this guy to crash out.

(01:21:55):
I want him to be well. And so this did
seem like what a well person would do to me,
and so and so I texted his mom and he
and now she texted me back and said and he

(01:22:16):
didn't do it too to piss me off, and that
he's been wanting that tattoo for a long time and
stuff like that. And I don't know what I expected,
because she's nicest person in the whole world, and she
could never I don't know, have a I don't know,

(01:22:41):
I don't know it was. It was not what I expected,
but I don't know what I expected at the same time.
But yeah, but everybody finds it really weird. I've talked
to a lot of people about this, and they all
signed it really disturbing. But for some reason, no one

(01:23:06):
said anything about it to him because he also told
everybody that he was going to get that tattoo. But
it is well known around my town that that is
my tattoo, because I can't shut up about the tattoos
I have, like when I become an animal, when I'm

(01:23:28):
a little drunk, and so everybody knows that that is
the tattoo that I also have.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
When you become an animal, yeah, not like you like.

Speaker 8 (01:23:43):
In the head, you know, how how.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Have you become? What happens to you when you become
an animal?

Speaker 8 (01:23:53):
When I have when I when I drink wine, Yeah,
when when I drink wine, I go a little crazy,
you know.

Speaker 6 (01:24:05):
Interesting, and then I then I start Then I start
going up to guys with guitars and tell them to
play a song.

Speaker 8 (01:24:15):
And then I sing, but I can't really sing, or
I start crying and sit somewhere, and or start showing
people my tattoos and explaining the whole story of the tattoo.

(01:24:35):
I guess that's not that crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
But who are you, Lilis? What's what are you doing
in the middle of Germany?

Speaker 8 (01:24:47):
I just live here. I just live normal life like
everybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Do you What do you dream of.

Speaker 8 (01:25:02):
I dream of I dream of a quiet world where
I don't know where everybody is just not afraid to
be himself. That's so boring, that's so who doesn't dream
of that?

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
But there's a lot of people who don't dream of that.
Hitler didn't dream of Uh yeah, I don't think. I
don't think that the president of McDonald's dreams of that.

(01:25:43):
I don't think Michael Jordan dreams of that. I think
he's busy doing like brand deals and running companies and
stuffy whoever who's in charge of Apple Computers. That guy,
he doesn't dream of that. Yeah, yeah, there's plenty of

(01:26:04):
people who don't dream of that. They're thinking about other stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:26:08):
Dream of wild horses.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Yes, have you seen a lot of wild horses lately?

Speaker 8 (01:26:18):
M if I dream? No, I've never seen a wild horse,
but I would like to very much.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Do they have those in They have horses in Germany.

Speaker 8 (01:26:31):
Right, not wild horses. They have lots of horses on
like enclosures, but not wild horses.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Sadly, it's a whole ass country. They don't have any
horses like wild horses. It's not like one.

Speaker 8 (01:26:47):
No, we don't even have natural lawns. I don't even
know the English word force, like.

Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
Just wild grass waste force.

Speaker 8 (01:27:01):
No, we have forests. We have lots of forests. Most
of them are artificial though. Visa is the German word
for just like wild grown lawn, grasp with flowers and FeAs.
We barely have that. We only have like fields.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
It's really sad, lilis, Yes, where do we go when
we die?

Speaker 8 (01:27:36):
Where do we go when we die? Fuck around and
find out? I don't know what kind of question is that?

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
What kind of question is it?

Speaker 5 (01:27:53):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
You know, I thought we established at the beginning of
this conversation that it's not good to ask people what
they mean by things.

Speaker 8 (01:28:04):
Oh my god, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
You're right, I forget, I apologize, don't worry about it, loves.

Speaker 8 (01:28:15):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
Is there anything else you want to say to the
people as the computer before we go?

Speaker 8 (01:28:21):
M instead of instead of getting getting something tattooed to
creep or to piss someone off, you should do something else,

(01:28:43):
like throw eggs at their house or something like that.
So don't do that. And then secondly, mhm, lift free
lifts so freely that you're existence is an act of
rebellion or whatever. That one guy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
Said, thank you for calling Lilith, thank you for answering.
I don't watch anime. That's all nerd shit. No, I've
did I watch an anime recently? What did I watch recently?
I watched Sokka Moto Days. I liked that one. I'm

(01:29:27):
gonna watch I'm gonna start watching Scavenger Rain. I don't
know if that counts as anime though I like animation. No,
I don't know. This is anime I watched when I
was in middle school. It was called Sergeant Frog. The
main character. If you look this up, it's called Sergeant
Frog the main character. Actually looks like me. I haven't

(01:29:51):
watched that in a while, but I like it a lot,
so I might go back and watch it. That was
the Therapy Gecko podcast. I'm Lyle and this This is
the outro to the Therapy Gecko podcast. That was nice.
That was a very chit chatty podcast. I guess all
of them are chit chats.

Speaker 5 (01:30:11):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
I guess all podcasts are kind of chit chats, except
except like the Batman ones, where they like do like
a dramatization of Batman. Those aren't chit chats. Those are like,
tell a story about Batman. Do I have anything else
to say? I feel like I do. Thanks for listening.

(01:30:37):
I say that every time, though, What more do I
have to say? The more I think, the more I
the older I get and the more I experience and
the more I learn, the more I I actually I think.
The older I get, the more futile it feels to

(01:30:59):
feel like I know any thing. But that's actually nice,
I think, and knowing everything is bad. Knowing everything is bad,
and not knowing things is okay. It's good. It's actively
beneficial to life to not know things. So if your

(01:31:24):
mom is still around, go look at her. If you
have anyone else in your house right now, go look
at them. If you're alone, look in a mirror and go, wow,
look at that. This is insane psychedelic. All right, thank

(01:31:45):
you all. I'll be back soon. Go do something else
with your life. Go walk around. Maybe you're walking around
while you're listening to this already. I'm very sleepy. I'm
gonna go, h am, I gonna go eat the pints
of ice cream. I really want to fuck. I really

(01:32:05):
want to I don't want to do anything besides do that.
I might. I'll let you know if I end up
doing it, or actually I probably won't. All right, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:32:19):
Ka.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
It goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night.
The beacon goes to his hide. You're just teaching you
a loud your line.

Speaker 6 (01:32:27):
Money's not really an expert.

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