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August 30, 2023 80 mins

This week Tamika and Mysonne first speak on the recent mass shooting at a Dollar General that happened in Jacksonville, which they also learned that same shooter was trying to shoot up an HBCU that day. Next, they went on to discuss Trump's mugshot and if its still a possibility for him to win an election. 

They also were joined by rapper and friend to the room Vado, who spoke on how he got into the industry, his experience working with some of hip hops biggest names and more. 

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
That's what's up.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Family.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
It's your girl Sami ka Z Mallory, and.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
It's your boy, my son, and we are your.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Host of street politicians, the place where the streets and
politics me. What's my son, Lennon?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I'm very tired today because I'm on vacation again and
it's the month of August. It's supposed to be my
rejuvenation month to get ready for people coming back in
the fall. And I've worked almost I will not say
every because that would be exaggeration, but I might as

(00:41):
well have been working every day and some days really
hard during my vacation, and I'm actually resenting it because
it's over.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I mean, what is really hard? You know? What does
that actually mean?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
It means things like I don't want to be doing anything,
and then I have to travel somewhere and I got
to talk. I don't want to get my makeup done,
but I have to so I can travel to the
place to do the thing. Then when I get back
from the place, I have to do tape a show,
do two interviews. Right then. It means Linda calls me

(01:24):
and she has no boundary about a vacation, although she
tries she really does. But she calls me and says, Okay,
we'll talk about it later, but I just want to
tell you these sixteen thousand things. It looks like Janice,
I'm supposed to be on vacation and she's sitting here
trying to say it's a new season and we need
to do this, and need to organize this, and this,

(01:45):
that and the third. It looks like responding to emails.
It's too much like there's no curious vacation.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Okay, it seems like you had a vacation. But cool.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Okay, but did you see me work during the time
when I was on vacation.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
There was there were there were periodic works. You're hearing it,
but we cool.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I know, I get it.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
You don't even know what a vacation is, so therefore
it's you don't you you don't even understand. Then you
don't even you really don't know. It's sad for you.
Vacation is supposed to mean that for an x amount
of days, you just turn off everything and just focus
on self care. I've not had that. I've had two

(02:33):
days here and in the day he is supposed to
be a month. I was supposed to come back in
September like.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Who okay, right, yeah, I don't even know the concept
through that. Now.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
The sad part is you don't even really care. See
that's that's that's worse than not.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
My life is not set up like that.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
If I, if I, if I have like vacation for
a month, everything around me with crumbled.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
It would literally just for I'm just being honest.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
But no, no, it's designed to make you feel that way,
and it's actually not true. No no, no, no, no, no, no, yes, yes, yes, yes, okay, yeah,
I'm telling you. I'm telling you you that is not true.
You believe that because it's got anyway, Let's go on

(03:23):
to the topics because that's not true. But that's what
that the rat race is designed to make you feel
that as soon as you step away, even for thirty days,
that ever, when you come back, it's going to be
like like a disaster. It's not true because there are
systems in place, at least at until freedom, where things

(03:44):
are still rolling regardless of whether we show up or not.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
That's not But that's why Linda calls you in this
in the mode because it ain't rolling, right, shit, don't
be rolling like it just be like and sometimes you
need a little the role. So if we literally took
thirty days off from like the work that we do
is not like, it's not it's not of vacation. It's

(04:12):
just not it's not realistic.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
We want you to know this as we move on
to our topics of the day, that you also will
come to me like a back in hell or out
of hell, saying we have to I need you to
focus on such statistic. But I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Because sensitive ship that you don't know. It's not like
you forgot that.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
It's not because we have an event that we've been
trying to plan and now we got to push you
back to another month. It was supposed to be in August,
now we push you to September. Now we're saying it's
gonna be October.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I don't think it should happen into November. So I'm
in I'm definitely not the person you want to talk
to November.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
I just saying to you that for the next two months,
you basically are going to be physically living in Kentucky,
dealing with Daniel Cameron, and you talking about doing something
major in New York City.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Let's move on this one day. We could go back
one day and do it.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Not about the going back, it's about this is why
I keep having the same art. And I realized that
men especially don't always understand this, especially when you work
with women who deal with day to day details. Okay,
not all men, some men. The details of getting to

(05:38):
the day that you're talking about requires the phone to
Now we're talking about planning four things at once, which
means the phone is ringing now twenty four hours a
day because the people for your event want to start
calling at ten o'clock at night. The other people it's
too much things, It's too much thing. Y'all people are workaholics.

(06:02):
Y'all need help. Y'all need to go to a program.
And it's a lot of people out here who are
listening to this who need to go to a program
for work a non I mean work of hot halics.
There needs to be therapy specifically designed for movement people,
people who are leaders and activists, to learn how to
sit down. That's all I have to say. So it's

(06:25):
the sixtieth anniversary of the March on Washington, which was
another time when people were working themselves to death. But
the March happened sixty years ago where doctor King made
an incredible, impactful, memorable, forever ever ever speech that people
will just never will never forget it. You know, it's

(06:47):
always going to be etched in our minds that day
when he spoke, in two hundred and fifty thousand people
were on the mall in Washington, DC under the tagline
of jobs and freedom. They were fighting for jobs and freedom.
Sixty years ago, we're still fighting the same fight. They

(07:07):
claimed the Biden administration that there's more jobs in the
economy than ever before and that this president is going
to go down in history for bringing back jobs. I'm
not going to say there are no jobs, because if
you want a job, there are certain there's jobs. I'm
not saying there's not, but the types of jobs that
people need to live successfully and to feel free, financially free.

(07:33):
I know a lot of people who are looking for
those jobs and they are not finding Okay, so you
know that there needs to be some conversation about that. However,
I will say that you know there's.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Build because at the end of the day, right like
a company can only hire with a certain amount of people, right, Like,
what do you do to create jobs.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
That are not there.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, technology is taking away a lot of jobs. So
that's what I'm saying that. But that's my point that
I'm making that you could go get a job to
flip a burger, which is fine. You can get a
sanitation job probably right. You could get jobs that It's
very rare that they can take make technology take over
the entire thing. I mean, they do have some in

(08:18):
other countries McDonald's and others that are surviving literally without
having maybe one employee to open up. But everything else
is technology. But that still a lot of places are
still gonna want humans to oversee the.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Projects because once some because I'm thinking, like what it
would be a disaster if you got a completely you know.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Store ran by computers.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
And today that is, if there isn't one.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Right like somebody you make it my food and you
put the wrong ship and everything to start glitching like that.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Shit could be a disaster and it could completely.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
I don't think so it probably can. They probably men
from wherever they're sitting, they can shut it.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Down, I hope.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
So you see what I'm saying, because the system. The
one thing about technology is that if you tell it cheeseburger,
Swiss cheese, tomatoes, mustard. It's going to do exactly that.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Until until it messes up. Then until it does it.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Like you think about we computers, like because we we
we we intake it in.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
The computer was made by you.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
So the fact that you can go crazy with the computer,
the computer can go crazy too.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Man.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
You know many times computers that fucked up the glitch
in all type of ship.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, you put too much faith for that computer you want.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
No, Oh, it's not because it's going to be less
likely to feel Let's just put it that way. But
the point is to get back to the original thing
that we were discussing, is that the March in nineteen
sixty three where doctor King delivered that I Have a
Dream speech, the famous I Have a Dream speech was

(10:13):
about jobs and freedom, and freedom means so many different things.
So obviously during that time they were in the midst
of a civil rights battle. They were in the midst
of so many different battles, still dealing with or at
that time, dealing with police accountability or police brutality, dealing
with racism, dealing with white supremacy, all of that. So
jobs in freedom, it was like the economic peace, and

(10:36):
then all the social justice causes all sort of like
mixed up together. And so still today it's a continuation.
It's not the end of or even a new beginning,
because there is not, there's never been a completion of
the things that they were fighting for that they went
to the mall by those large numbers four in sixty

(10:59):
in sixty, and so here we are commemorating a powerful occasion.
And the reason why, one of the reasons why I
would say it was extremely powerful is because the diversity
of individuals involved in that march too, you know, all
those that came together because they were in a real struggle.
And through that movement there were winds. You know, there

(11:22):
were winds, there were strides made, and so you know,
it was a powerful occasion. And here we are again
commemorating it. And but one thing I will say that
most people don't talk about is that women were not
allowed to speak. I believe Mahelia Jackson was the only
person on the program, only woman on the program, and

(11:42):
she was there as not an entertainer, even though yes
she was it was for song, but still she was
so much more to the movement. I mean, she was
doctor King's friend, you know, she was there, you know,
rooting him on from the sideline. So she was the
only woman that was on the program. No other woman
was allowed to speak. And so you know, I want

(12:04):
to give a shout out to Reverend William Barber, who
actually is a part of the sixtieth anniversary. He had
a program whereas all women speaking, all women you know
who are delivering a sort of keynote addresses or put
a part of a program just to make sure that

(12:24):
women are celebrated. And we really show the progression even
with that of how women are in very important leadership
roles within a movement. So that's the deal on the
sixtieth anniversary. More work to be done, but we must
always remember.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Always remember man, shout out to doctor King. He's one
of my you know, he's one of my icons that
I have on my wall I look at daily, you know,
if you don't know, I have pictures on my walls of.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Civil rights leaders, activists.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Who in their mug shots, you know, and and for me,
it just shows a lot of our civil rights leaders
were criminalized and for nothing act you know, and some
of them actually I got I got Malcolm Little's picture
here for when he was actually you know, outside, so
it's different, you know, variations and you know of different leaders.

(13:21):
But just shout out to the march on Washington. You know,
it's set up precedence. You know, it inspired a lot
of us. You know the speech that doctor King made
that day, you know, historical, legendary, and it gave us
a lot to look forward to.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
It gave us a lot to aspire to. So I
just want to show what a serious cause, serious cause, man,
jobs and freedom.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
We still need jobs and freedom. But at the end
of the day, we still marching for the same shit. Man,
We're still fighting for the same ship. And it's like,
I don't know sometimes I don't.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Know the battle though. The battle is long. The battle
for freedom is long. It's not a short And they
and and and it took us So what do they say?
It took us so many? Uh what it's a it's
a certain kind of statement. But the point is that

(14:24):
we it took a long time to get to where
we are. There's no way that it will be unraveled overnight.
Is it a shame? Certainly? Both should we also understand
that the system is designed to keep us fighting, and
we have to. You can't drop the ball. While there
are other people who are trying to carve new paths

(14:45):
and new lanes, some people have to be there. It's
like it's like if there's a fire in the house,
you know, there's a group that comes in just to
stop the fire, just to stop the fire. Then they're
new clean up people, and then they're folks who think
about what do you do in terms of building a
new house, tearing it down, rebuilding, remodeling, reshaping. There's also

(15:07):
a group of people that come in and try to
find housing and care for the people who are displaced
because of the fire. So it's so many elements and
movements are just the same. And speaking of fires, no
pun intended. But the shooting situation, the mass shooting thing,
it is on the rise. Again, not to say that

(15:28):
it really stopped, because a lot of times we don't
hear about mass shootings, especially if one or two people
would shot. And of course in our communities every day
there are mass shootings where people black folks, brown folks,
people who look like us are being shot and or
shooting people, and that we classify that in the mass
shooting department. However, when we talk about colleges and now

(15:52):
the Dollar General, you know, stores, grocery stores, that it is,
it is. It is hard wrenching, right, God bless all
domestic is domestic terrorism. It's heart wrenching to know that
people sending their kids to school are struggling scared because

(16:13):
even in the last few hours, we learned that there
was an active shooting happening at the University of North
Carolina Chapel Hill where one person was shot and it
still was active, having checked it to see if more
people were shot. And that's just days after the Dollar
General shooting, where that shooter, a man with swartzika's on

(16:35):
his rifle, went to a college. First, he tried to
get on the HBCU campus and when he couldn't get
on the campus and he was sent away by a
security guard, he continued on to the Dollar General because
in his mind that day he was going to kill
some blacks, some niggers. As I'm sure they said.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, they said that he hates he hates black people, right,
and it's.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Very danger and it's very it's sad, but there are
so many people who will argue that racism is not
in America. They're literally black people there's literally black people
that when you try to tell them and they say, oh,
you're race baiting. You know, you're just trying to create something.
It's not really that big little problem. There's no racism here,

(17:21):
you know, and all this shit, and it's just.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Like where do y'all be at? Like for real? Like
what planet are you from?

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Like I want to go there because I dare shouldn't
want to be You think I want to talk about race?
You think I want to be around people that hate
me and want to kill me. And I got to
understand of doing things intentionally to try to, you know,
make sure that my life is harder and try to
stop me from progressing and stopping my family. And you
think I want to be around that shit, Like for
what how does it benefit? I don't want to do that.

(17:53):
I want to be able to say, Yo, shit is happening. Man,
shout out to my guy Jalen Brown. Man, Jaylen Brown.
You know he just played in the Big Three. James
Brown is the highest paid NBA player right now, like
being at the contract and he went paid in qes
thing for free. You know what, that's the ship we

(18:14):
gotta do. Like I want to see ice cube bro.
I call him cute. But at the end of the day,
that's what I like.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
People don't know who you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Oh yeah, Ice ice Cube. You know the Big Three,
the Ice qbe has the Big Three. And you know,
he's been doing a lot of interviews lately talking about
how certain entities are trying to block him from from
getting money. And you know they've actually been back during
him doing a lot of shit, you know, So that
this was big to see James Brown step up and

(18:44):
support his brother, you know, and and it's just you know, but.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Keep that energy across the board. That's what we want
to see. That's what we want to see. That's what
we like to see.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Jalen Brown, did he give the hbc US this week?

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Didn't give the hus If people people are doing things.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
It's not like it.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
And I don't like that. We wanted to the negative
like that. I don't like it like we want to.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
We want to say, if Dinny and Young Miami go
out and they you know, look funny in the face,
well no, I'm talking about no, because let me tell
you something that's not even good enough. Okay, what you
just said is there? That's their fun that's their that's

(19:36):
the good ship. Right. They go out and they act bad,
the haters they'll either ignore and or slander that. What
they love is if they go out somewhere and it
looks like she got an attitude, they all over that.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
St st said, man, find you something to do, he said.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
He is. But let me just tell you this, my son.
Even if they're not fine, it's.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Not your badness about that. It's not.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Impacting your life.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
And it's not like they come and to talk to
you about it and they coming forward. They want to
give you information about their personal life and you taking it. Now,
that's something that if you if you if you make
your life public and you come to me about your
personal public life and you tell me and I listen,
and then I have, you know, my critiques or I
have my my judgment of it, then that's something that
you're giving me. But y'all judging people life or gossip,

(20:36):
and y'all want to be a people life so bad
that y'all gossip. It's just stupid man, gossip about the
positive niggas is out there showing a million dollar check. Look,
I'm giving you gossip about that. That's some shit. That
we could gossip about.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
I want to hear that. I want to walk around and.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
Be like, Yo, did you hear some such did this
to help this person? You hear they gave money to
do this. You hear they opened this like make that
the gossip.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
It's just it's it's really unfortunate. Uh, really unfortunate, Like
I can't even tell.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
And another shout out to Cam and Mace. Man, they
just got I heard they got a twenty million dollar
deal for their new podcast. Yes it is what it is.
See and these is my brothers, like seeing growing you
know in that era, Mace being my close friend can
be a friend of mine, and knowing what they went
through to see them get back to this level and

(21:30):
they was once best friends, and to just see how
they reconciled that and they went and got the bag.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
I love it, man, I love it, man.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
That's what I don't that much. That's that's what they said.
Twenty minute and they just I heard they Antonio Brown.
They signed Antonio Brown.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
But it's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Entertaining, you know, a b gonna go in there and
talk crazy, So that's gonna be entertainment. So shout out
to them, man, I'm gonna promote positivity.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
People just doing the right thing. I love it. Keep going.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, well promotion. That brings me to my thought of
the day. You know, Trump raised seven point one million
dollars after that mugshot photo went viral. He did seven
point one million dollars, and it almost makes me feel

(22:24):
like unpopular opinion. Just leave him alone, Like, if you
can't put him in jail, for sure, please leave him alone.
And even if you put him in jail, I'm not
sure like that might turn into a thing. It's just
basically it's given. Leave Trump alone. Stop talking to him,

(22:45):
just leave him alone, just stop.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Just leave him because I hear you, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
It means that they're not gonna do nothing most time.
Is he going to jail? Because if not, and all
of this is just.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Because people charge now, so.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Well, okay, well listen, I'm with the people that have
said and I get the difference. I understand that when
you are accused of murder, you're accused of of of
of calling shots I guess on people and getting them killed,

(23:23):
which we don't know that any of that is true.
But these are the allegations that they have against young thugs.
So I get that. It is very different from saying
that he made a phone call, because it's because because
I know some people will say, oh, no, Trump is
killing people too, because what about January sixth, But that's
not the Georgia situation. In Georgia, he is accused of

(23:48):
election interference by getting on the phone and calling this
guy the other attorney general or not even a state's
attorney or state's department, whatever the position is, and trying
to get that man to mess up the numbers in
his favor right, And then other people got involved. There

(24:11):
was intimidation of a woman where some guy would try
to go to her house or whatever to try to
intimidate her to say that she, you know, that she
had committed some type of election fraud. I mean, people
went through shit like that. The hearing that Congress did
where they allowed the election workers who were harassed by
Trump's fans and people fanatics, those people really really seriously

(24:39):
went through hell, like their lives were changed forever. They
don't want to live at home, They felt nervous. So
all of that was terrible. It's terrible. He should be
in jail for it, All of them should be in
jail for it. However, I can understand what they will say. Well,
in this other situation, young thug is accused of all

(25:00):
these different things. But yeah, he is just an accused.
And how come Trump could get a twenty thousand dollars
bail and young thug can't and leave the jail within
probably less than an hour.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Well maybe it's the same reason that the black man
that's part of the Rico case can't get a bail.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
But it's like, when you say that, is that real?
Like is that real? This is why people think we
just be talking racist.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
No, they said it, it's on it's sting. They said
the man was denied bail. The black man been accused
has been denied bail.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
No, I know that, But y'all trying to say it's
because he's black.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
I mean, look, he just happened to be black, and
he just happened to begin deny bail when everybody else
got a bail. So explain to me, make it make
sense to me. I want to know what the difference is.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
You know, I mean, this is why people don't take
y'all seriously. Why what do they say is the reason
why he can't get the bill he did.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
I don't know what the reason is.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Okay, So if you're telling me the top person at
the top, your the person who literally was trying to the.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
One who orchestrated the whole ship. Yeah, but what did
they sending a black man to do?

Speaker 3 (26:26):
What?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
You know?

Speaker 4 (26:29):
I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
We should look it up. We should look it up
because maybe because I'm I, some of this stuff got
to make sense, because if what you're saying, it is
just like I haven't paid attention. I see you at
testing posting and talking about it, but I haven't paid attention,
so I don't know the details. I just saw a
post on both of y'all pages, and what I'm saying

(26:54):
is that I'm laughing but it's not funny. But what
I'm saying is that I need that not to be
the reason. I need not to be that it's because
he's black, y'ad is some stuff gotta make better sense
to me. I'm just not going with y'all. I can't.

(27:15):
I just can't.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Are you looking it.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Up to see what's charged? Because it's just gotta be.
It can't be that just because the man is black.
It's gotta be I need something more, because that's not
y'all is that's not I'm just telling you listen.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
I wait.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
But but to my point, my thought of the day is,
perhaps if you're not gonna he really ain't going to jail,
please leave Trump alone because it is getting it's getting
bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. He's raising more
money than racist are coming out of everywhere. You got
black people that's losing their mind too, starting to be
tricked into thinking that maybe maybe, oh, it's a conspiracy

(27:58):
against Trump. Trump is the conspiracy. He himself is a
walking conspirator. I don't even know if that's a word,
but he is. The actual conspiracy is him.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Bruh.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
I'll tell you the truth. We'll find it and maybe
after our guest comes on we could talk about it again,
because I'm just trying to understand.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Harrison Floyd Black voices for Trump terrible.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Okay, when we.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
On September sixth, he can't he said he can't afford anything.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Oh he ain't got now seen that that's because he's black.
Because they raised money for Giuliani the other day. They
had a fundraiser for Giuliani to get his money together
so he could go fight his legal battles.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, he can fight with Trump.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
But some white women said that they that she I
think she's she's even indicted or is a part of
the case somehow, And they said that, oh, Trump know that.
Trump them said they ain't given her nothing. Well, you
know they don't fuck with black women.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah, she's gonna roll like a women. Man.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
You know those people are not going to do shit.
The black woman too. She they going down with this
man to the end because you know what they're banking
on that they won't go to jail. And if they
don't go to jail and they come out on the
other side of this unscathed, y'all. Y'all don't even know

(29:41):
what's about to happen. You don't know the level of corruption.
It's already fucked up and it's already corrupt. But when
they get away with this, if god hopefully not, but
if they did, when they come back, they're gonna be unhare.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
I mean, I don't think Fanny is that dumb to
foul discharge knowing she ain't got no evidence to do.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Fanny, don't prosecute police officers the way that she should.
So I don't know how intelligent in whatever she is,
but they are police officers in Georgia in her jurisdiction
that need to be tried for egregious behavior against people
citizens that have not been tried. And so you know,

(30:31):
I'm not I ain't too sold on Fanny. I do think, yes,
we need to ensure that Trump's ass and his cronies
experience the lashing of the system that they have participated in,
and you know, and the and the I just use

(30:53):
the word corruption. I mean, they are just they are criminals.
They're evil criminals, and they should have absolutely face the music.
But I'm just saying, Fanny, it's so many contradictions to
everything that it's like hard to even have a conversation
these days. I find myself getting ready to start talking

(31:14):
and I just be like, you get it, because then
you gotta because then people come back to you and
ask for the young thug question and you like don't
have an answer for that. You left the like you've
left the podcast because.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah, I'm done, because I can't. I can't.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
I can't even entertain the fact your Trump is an
anomalated me. I like listening to people in the hood
talk about Trump. But I get what it is. I
get what they identify, right, We THEYD identify with the underdog,
and they identify what you know, people.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Think he's the underdog.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
He's not in mind. He's he's in his mind. He's
fighting a system, right, because they say he's not a politician.
So this is what they say. They said, Trump is
not a politician. He don't do politics.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
So he's he's unveiling, you know, the dirty tricks of politics,
and he's saying it to us. You know, in layman's terms,
he's one of us, and he just got into politics
and he don't really give a fuck about politics, right,
And I agree with that. But he's a criminal, right,
So what happens is he's not an underdog, right, He's

(32:31):
a criminal that figured out I can get into the system, right,
and I can maneuver and manipulate and make money off
the system to figure out how I can benefit. I
could control these people's minds. I know how to act
on TV. I know how to make money. I know
all of this shit.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
He was on TV.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I mean I showed that, but that was like a game.
So he's not an actor, No.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
But he was on You're Fired. He was on the ship,
so he was on TV.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
He was a TV personality, so people know him from
he's entertaining. He knows how to do all that shit.
He just took the same strategy to the White House, right,
So what happens is he knows that the average person
do hip hop and all of the shit, people will
attracted to Trump because he had money, right period, do

(33:21):
a hip hop song, you like, y'all want money like Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
So he knew he had that. So he knows that, oh,
most of the people just attracted to money. So what
he does is very just like what the PPP people say,
Oh he gave people PPP.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah, I'm gonna give y'all how much money you need.
I'm gonna throw it to you. I know you.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
I know you're gonna spend it, and I also know
that you're gonna do a legal shit to get it right.
So you're gonna throw the money away and you're gonna
go to jail.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
So I got a strategy illegal stuff, Like what are
you talking about?

Speaker 4 (33:56):
I'm explaining to you is them niggas. You know what
I mean, niggas going to jail? For PPP because they
they filed them paperwork and the ship was wrong and
they stole. You know what I mean, Black niggas is
fucked up. You know how much many niggas got you
know how many you know how many black people got
them PvP loans, got a couple of fifty sixty thousand

(34:17):
and never had five dollars. And now they've turned to
a life of crime because they can't get that life back.
So ultimately he destroyed the mind in the community and said,
oh and this is strategy, like give him that. They
gonna go back to jail. We're gonna we're gonna put
these Supreme Court justice in order. Crime is gonna uptick.

(34:38):
We're gonna lock everybody back up again, and we're gonna
keep going. We're not gonna give them positions. We're not
gonna give him no power. We're not hiring no black
people to be able to change no laws. We're not
putting them in no cabinet, We're not putting no black
personal Hell.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, yeah, you want us to partner Lil Wayne, You
want us to park it up? Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
The hip hop community gonna say, we fuck with Trump,
We fuck with Trump. Is is shit that don't matter
to him. He like that ship that you argue about,
don't matter give them that. You just don't give them power.
As long as you don't give them power and position,
give them a couple of dollars, that's all they gonna
cheer for you every time that shit runs out that

(35:17):
little bit of money. They can't create generational well because
we ain't give him nothing to create generational wealth. Were
not putting nobody black in no position and do nothing.
Of course, give him a couple of dollars. You know,
they call us liquid money anyway. They know the money
in our community ain't gonna go through our community with
so many times, So why give a nigga money with
no plane, no strategy or anything. He's gonna spend the

(35:39):
money on sneakers, is going back into the economy. Then
he gonna start committing crimes because they need to keep
up with their lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
And a majority of black people mice on. What you
mean it's not the guest is on, so we should.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
You mean it's not the majority the hood.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
This is why crime is at a PPP. Commit turned
up the crime rate in our communities one hundred percent, right,
They gave niggas in these communities.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
That never happened niggas well, this is what we call
each other. They they gave.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
They gave people in the community money that never had
it dime before. They spent fifty and sixty thousand dollars
on chains and sneakers.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Okay, our guest is on, So we're gonna circle back
to this conversation because I hear you, but I just
think you need to we need to revisit.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I'm outside, so I'm just telling you, really, I.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Know, but that's not the majority of black people that
got PPP loans in the hood.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I'm not talking about the majority of black people. I
can't speak.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
All right, Let's let's get to our guest who was
joining us today.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
That's well, as we always do. We got one of
our friends on here. It's like my little brother man.
You know, artists that I've watched since he was a
teenager man with a big mam mark that was bigger
than him.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
You know what I'm saying, rapping outside.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
I used to call home when I was locked up,
and he used to wrap on the phone for me
for like thirty forty minutes, and at that point.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
I knew he was just one.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Of those those artists that was really talented and had
the ears and the hearts of the street and understood
the culture and understood exactly how to explain life. There's
not too many lyricists that I respect, man, but Bado
has always been one of those. Man. So we're gonna
bring to the stage my brother, my little brother. The
man was sub king, what up?

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Huh? I ain't nothing, man, you know, I.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
See you out here, working man.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of you know, a lot
of shit.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
You know, we can curse, right, curse man, you can
curse his Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of shit going on, you know
what I'm saying. A lot of a lot of things
about the drop soon, you know. So just focused, that's all.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
So yeah, you know, tell tell him where you're from, Harlem,
tell him how you started.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
Yeah, you know, up there from uptown Linux save Crime
Square for y'all that don't know.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
On forty second between Linox and Seventh Man.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
You know, I grew up just watching, you know, I
was fortunate enough to live in the area of of stars, man,
like you know, from Camron and Mace, the Big l you.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Know, resc of Keeves, hud six, MaTx B, you know,
J Mills.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
Head even to the Battle Stars, some loaded lucks head Ice,
you know, Forty cow Man, Charlie Clips, you know, the
list goes on, man, and I know I'm missing people. Man,
I hate this part, you know, Loan, Like you know,
I was just fortunate to grow up watching them, watching

(38:50):
every you know, watching all them slims and just you know,
try to follow the steps.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
How did you get like, so we're because I know
you have a very strong relationship with Cameron, but how
did you sort of get in the mix? What was
your process to getting into artist stream?

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Well?

Speaker 5 (39:08):
J Mills is my best friend, so I kind of
like rolled with him, you know what I'm saying, And
he was signed to Want to Blow, which they started
getting Lady Deals and I was just you.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Know, just running with him and and then just.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
From from there on it just when I got to
meet you know, Caled mice Maids, you know, I got
to be a you know, other stars that was that
was also you know, a roller coaster. So when things
was like getting quiet fast for me, just so happened
Cam had stepped back on the scene.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
So when Cam stepped back on the scene.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
I had reached out to some people close to him,
gave him my demo.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
You know, he fucked with it.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
He grabbed me up like the next like in the
next two days, and I never left.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
It's just what stories we don't really we don't always hear,
or maybe we don't appreciate the amount of support because
the way in which the world tries to portray just
black folks in general and or and especially in entertainment,
it's like nobody helps one another. But that's like really

(40:23):
not true. I've heard so many positive stories from artists,
from my son from now here on one from you
about Cameron, where people actually did lend the help in
hand and try to bring another person up in the industry.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
I mean, because you know, I leave my ego at
the door.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
That's for you know, very humble, you know how uh
you know, I come in, I come in and learn,
I observe, you know, I don't really I don't talk
over no one. I listen, you know, And with Cam
I'm you know, I'm lifting it because he did.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
It, you know what I'm saying. So it's no it's
no reason for me to like to speak over with
him from just learning.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
So but that's why that's how I am with most
artists that done did it, you know, and I try
to scow the ones is coming up under me same way.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
That's one thing I will say.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Manvada has always been like a student of the game,
very you know, and always paid attention. Whenever I talked
I would home, he'd be on the phone, he'd be
asking questions. He was always attentive. And then when I
came home, he still had that energy, you know. So
why should you know, take off and come out with
them big singles and them big hits. I wasn't surprised,

(41:34):
you know what I'm saying, because the talent was there
any and he paid attention, you know. So talk about
talk about that, talk about talk about like the seriousness
is because being in the industry, you know how it
is to be hot and then kind of just phizzle
and then you gotta find your way.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Back, you know, and just now, what what what is
that process?

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Being like at the top and you the hottest nigga
and then it's just like, oh shit, I gotta find
my way back because you know, challenged it, but you
just gotta find your way back. To talk about that
process from now, how does the mentality that.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
Takes man Listen, you gotta have a strong one, that's
for one, you know, because you know when I first
when I got with Cam and we started coming out.
You know, but at first when I got with Cam,
it wasn't really trying to like lititize shit like that,
you know what I'm saying. Like, we had to like work,

(42:27):
you know, it didn't come easy work, So we had
to go to the streets. So we started putting out
a trilogy of mix of mixtapes, you know what I'm saying,
boss and ball bosses.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
So that's what kind of grab.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
Once the streets started talking, then the radio, then the
DJs w and the radio started wanting the tracks.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
You know.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
That's when Flex started asking them for the tracks, so
we give them the Flex And then that's when he
started making movies. So you know, everything is good. When
you up, you know, everybody want to fuck with you.
You know, I found myself hanging around other celebs, you know,
on a daily basis, is anything cool? You know, didn't

(43:05):
want things. You know, once that road coast to go down,
it's like, you know, people disappear, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
But you know, you just stay focused.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
But you know, the main thing is stick to your
script and I and I didn't do that, you know.
I started trying to follow what was going on. You
know how people what was what was now?

Speaker 3 (43:24):
So this was now.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
But that's just because I'm a student of the game.
I still love the game. So it's like playing ball.
You see new moves, you want to start doing new moves.
You know, I love a gang, so I'm trying to
I'm fucking with all types of flows, you know. But
it wasn't hitting. It wasn't hitting, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
So so you went to your original.

Speaker 5 (43:48):
Yeah, I went back to my original. That's when the
Hated came out. I did with eaves, you know, and
that's that's that's me, you know. So it was just
a free style, you know. Next thing, you know, Daint
got thirty million views, you know what I'm saying. So
it was like, you know, I performed that when I
when I when people bring me out or I go
on stage now you know, and they know work for world.

(44:09):
So that just shows you that the real always gonna win,
even like for example, the flex you know flex freestyles.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
A lot of everybody freestyle is nice.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
But when Mike went up there and spit that real
that shit got what I mean views like, that's one
of the number one you feel me. So that just
shows you that niggas always respect the real you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
So I just went back, you know, I just stuck
to the script.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
So, so what you what are you working on now?
I heard a couple of things, but I want you
to like, what are you working on now?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Ship?

Speaker 5 (44:46):
I'm working on Actually, I'm working on my tape with
thirty eight Specs producing it.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
You know, I love it.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
That's crazy hear that? Oh man, that's crazy. I'm not
gonna lie. This might be one of my best albums man,
for real, because the concepts is very you know what
I'm saying. I'm talking about a lot of shit. You
know what I'm saying. I'm not just rapping like i'll
normally do about the streets. Of course, the street's gonna
be in it, but you know, it's a lot of
like you know, the niggas meant to health, you know

(45:14):
what I'm saying, a lot of mental health issues out here, man.
You know, I think everybody every man done went through that.
You know, I surely went through it. You know because
being in this game, you know what I'm saying, being
in this game and just the thing we call life,
every man go through it.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
So you know, it's it's just real a lot of storytelling.
And you know. Then I got a an.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
Album with East that I'm working on as well, the
album with Banks. You know, we we we had knocked
out a few joints, but we're gonna get back to
it to you know, wrap that up. And then I'm
also on what the Mary J Block singles M Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Uh that has not been released.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
Nah, only Flex got it, so you know you're here
flex play it. But that's you know, you do only want.
It's called Believe in Love, So it's dope. We shot
the video on Capri, so wonderful.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
So I had so many questions came to mind. One
thing when you talked about the authenticity, you know, because
oftentimes we have an audience of people who are listening
and they're trying to figure it out, right, that's everywhere
we all have these people, you know that listen to us.
They're trying to figure out what to do to get

(46:33):
their music career, and I think that all things are
sort of us. It's pretty much. It all crosses over,
like just because you're talking about music, but there might
be somebody that's working on you know, development of business
and authenticity is so important. You start off with a
good product, then you change the product because you want

(46:55):
to fit whatever the new culture is. Then it goes
flat because people like that old hair gel the one
you're created. But evolution is important. You can't stagnant. So
how do you fare in that conversation of like, yes,
evolved without losing yourself in the process.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
Your surroundings. You know, sometimes you gotta changed surround us,
you know. So I had to evolve from my day one.
Is not all my day one, but something that was
I'm not gonna say was stuff, but just wasn't believing
the vision like I was, you know, and you know,
shout out to my you know, my brother Jed, you know,

(47:36):
he believed it day one. So when things so when
things got stagnant, he was dead to you know, to
help me pick it up. Like, nah, we're gonna keep
going even you know, we're gonna keep going, We're gonna
keep pushing. So we just kept pushing the long run,
and you know, things start happening. So you know, I

(47:57):
just tell people like, don't follow leave. You know what
I'm saying, Believe in your dream. If you got a vision,
you know, and you gotta go for your vision, man,
you know, because you know, you know one of your
friends to easy tell you, man, fuck that ship, and
you're gonna say fuck that ship.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
Most most niggas, most niggas from the streets or it
takes one of their niggas.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
To not be on it and then they lacking it.

Speaker 5 (48:20):
You know, Like for once I seen I seen a
post for one of my guys from the hood that
felt like committed suicide man because he's like, yo, nobody
support his dreams. Like you know he's not all that lyrically,
but still that's your dream. Go with your dream, you
know what I'm saying. But you know how guys in
the hood is and he ain't nice.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Niggas is like.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
It's just not supporting it. But you don't have to
be nice to make it clear.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Day always talent, don't work hard, don't work hard shit
most definitely, most definitely, you know, so.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
I really want to tell him like, nah, man, fuck
niggas man. Just keep going, keep going. Trust me from regards,
see you working, keeping rewarding.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Before you ask your question, I just want to get
my second question out. You talked about mental health. I
was gonna ask you, like, what are some of the
social issues happening in our society, especially looking in New
York City, you know, and just in the areas that
you travel to that really concern you. Like that's really
coming through in your music. I know you said mental health,

(49:29):
but are there other issues that you would say you're addressing.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
I mean, I'm gonna start addressing politics. Move you know,
that's a new thing for me, you know, shout out
to jay Z. I'll listen to uh Tom have me
listening to some some j albums for four four and
I see how he'd be really, you know, he's really
pressed on the politics if you understand what he's talking about.
You know sometimes but that's that was always hold. But

(49:55):
talk about things people don't know of. You got to
do your research, bo though. You know, that's my goal
to start really talking about what's going on in the world,
you know, start current events, you know, you know.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
You know it's I love the evolution, and that's what
it is for me. It's evolutionist. It's still like like
she said, it's being you, but just evolving like still
I'm still me, and it still has the street you
know energy because that's where we come from and we
come from. So but we gotta be able to if we,
if we when you get older, you gotta start teaching

(50:35):
a little bit, right, you gotta. If a nigga talking
to you, if you're O g supposed to og and
a young nigga talking to you and he can't get
no jewels from you, the how benefit you can't You're
not you're not supposed to fit in with the young,
supposed to stand out they see. So your music has
to evolve. It gotta still be current and it gotta

(50:55):
still be relevant.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
But it got evolved to where it shows growth, you know,
growing as a man.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
So I think that's that's what that's the next stage
for you, man, and I love it.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
You know, just you know, explain it to them and
uh in that's all they really just need to explain
that they you know, they all.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
We know exactly, you know how to talk to ship,
they talk exactly. And that brings down to it. You
know what I'm saying tell all the time is like
when I do the fact that I do civil rights work, right,
I come to the hood and tell niggo, this is
what we need to be doing in the hood. And
that's why it makes it relevantcause niggas, Oh, Mike's doing this.
So when I have a conversation with him, it's different

(51:37):
than somebody else, you know, coming from just coming from
college and all that with his suit, telling them why
we need to be in politics and why we need
to fight for blacks and all that, because they can
relate to me because they know I'm comfort where they
come from. So that's why that's why we're the most
credible messages we got.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Man. You know what I'm saying, I'm.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
Gonna keep your honey. I watch your page all the
time to stay to stay up to date. You know
what's going on, You're focus, You're hocus. I watch you'll
plays all the time. Keep up the date, man, for real.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
That's what it is, man, It's about the work is
paying it forward.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Man.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
So what else you got going on? I know I
heard about Blong Run. That's that's the new label. That's
the new that's the label that's my ship.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Yeah, definitely, definitely, you know, you know, you know, I
definitely you know, one of my goals getting into that acting,
you know, seriously, you know, So that's definitely in the
mix too as well.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
You know.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
Just man, let's try staying out the way until I'm
in the way, man, you know, because.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
You gotta stay sucker free out here.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
Man, you know that, you know that. But just stay working, man,
staying positive. Believe in my feel like a.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Reseurg is coming for you. You know how anybody get
their second win. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
I feel like you you're on the verge. You got
the energy right now, and see it in your face.
You's come in the projects. I'm listening, just understanding. I
know how special is man. I got me ands supposed
to be working on something too, he is.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
I'm gonna need matter of fact, I'm gonna need you
on this. We need you on this.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
You know, we all do.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
I'm back outside. Man.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
My thoughts that he wasn't feeling inspired lately, But it looks.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
I went to when I went to the was you
at Yankee Stadium?

Speaker 5 (53:24):
No it wasn't. I was in Caprie. I know it
was fun. I seen I watched it on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
That energy is like, okay, now I'm rapping again. I
want to rap again.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
I felt that energy when you're surrounded by that type
of you know, that energy and seeing those type of
artists and seeing everybody and just looking out their mind.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Now now I feel like I got some.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Real hip hop, real hip hop. You know that.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
That That's that's what keeps me going because you know,
we we real hip hop has man so you know,
all that other ship is cool too. Don't get twisted,
but you know, we actually we think before we write.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
You know what I'm saying. We actually we keep rapping.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
The fiftieth anniversary, that was gonna be my question that
might already kind of messed it up. But with the
fiftieth anniversary of hip hop gone, you know, it has
passed fifty years. Now we're working on the next fifty years.
Where do you want to see the industry go? You know,
what do you want to see happen? You talked about

(54:24):
more connection between the issues, the politics, and the people
because it's some problems out here. Like I try to
listen to the music, things is kind of wayward. The
women are very, very very what y'all say they are.

(54:44):
It's a term you use and over sexualize the young
guys between the drugs and the pills and the this
and the that, and not saying that it's not. Some
of it is good music. We like it, we bump
to it. But we are in a space where I
feel like we're losing the messaging that used to be there.

Speaker 5 (55:02):
I mean, I think that we're gonna have to shut
down Instagram. Well, you know, because it's like everybody's just
following what's going on in Instagram and they found the ignorance,
you know, the all they see is the jury, the cause,
the money, the lifestyle. So so now when you get

(55:25):
when you get with a with a with a woman
with a female, that's all she wants, you know. She
just want to sit in the seat with the double
law and the head rest, you know what I'm saying.
So she could be like this will take the picture,
you know what I'm saying, Like, that's what's going on now.
It's not real though, it's not real. None of it
is real. I mean, of course it's Celes whatever, but

(55:46):
half of that's not real. It's just what looks good
for Instagram. So we need to take a break from
Instagram and get back to reality, you know. And that's
that's that's the that's the first thing. That's the first thing.
And because like I said, you know, like I watched
mice paid on a politics you know what I'm saying,
a lot of people do, but not everybody, meaning the youth.

(56:09):
The youth is not watching that at all. You know
what I'm saying. The youp is watching drills. They're going
on YouTube and you hear these stories of you know,
like killing killing someone is a trend.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
You kill someone, you rap about it, you sell records
because it's only because it's real. You know what I'm saying,
it's real. Person, go on YouTube and watch your whole story.
I'm gonna be honest. I didn't know a lot about
the Chicago Drills team. I went on YouTube, I watched it,
and I was I was like, damn, they really out

(56:43):
there playing tag with bullets with real bullets.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
So it made it made me listen to the State
music more.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
But at the end of the day, like now everybody's
doing from Philly to New York, it's that the trend
is becoming larger than life.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
And you know, dying. That's the problem. Our communities are
are are suffering greatly because there is incentive, as my
son says all the time, to push violence and drugs,
like the drugs that these kids are using. I know,
we always use drugs like people use drugs, but they

(57:19):
are under the heavy influence. Like the way they smoke.
We I don't know what kind of weed they smoke
because when we was young, two or three poles and
and we had you tripping, you was like good for
the rest of the day. They smoking all day long.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Yeah, I don't understand. That's why I quit.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
I haven't smoked, Like I might smoke a little in
the studio, but outside in the world, I don't smoke
because I get tired.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
I'm bugging out.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
Yeah, Like I'm bugging out because it's so strong now, so.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Off the rip, like you know what I'm saying. Like
you hear that. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
So you know, I fell back from it. But it's
legal now, so it's no telling.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Man.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Then they might have fentanol in it. I saw I'm
telling my song earlier today that I saw a post
from Stefante Clark, which is the brother of a young
man by the name of Stefan Clark who was killed
by police in the backyard of his grandparents' house in California.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
They heard that, and.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Yeah, and he's doing some his brother's young brother's doing
some great work. And he had a post up today
that said that ninety seven percent of the drugs on
the street are fake they have fentanyl in it, ninety
seven percent. Now, I don't know where he got that from,
but it sounds about right because the way in which

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like the addiction to whatever they're using is completely different
today than it was in the past.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
You know what said, it's exposing I loved ones, you know,
like who may have a cousin or a close friend.
Even though that was even shooting, you know that, you
know they died. Were like, damn, what happened? Come to
find out form fedos, like, oh man.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
He was shooting? How we we?

Speaker 5 (59:09):
I ain't know that, you know, like I ain't know
uh Omar Fluire was shooting.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
You know what I'm saying, I didn't know.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
My friend, you know from from from my hud was
shooting like a lot, my fird. You know, it's a
lot of people that was being exposed, you know, and
that wasn't I just asked.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
You, what's the sister's name? I just told you about
the artist that wasn't mentioned during the sixtieth anniversary. She
was in the Fujis or not the Foojies.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Tho oh she ad three six mathfield.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Yeah, that's exactly damn.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
And and and.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
That all leads to us saying, like, damn, we don't
know what they was going through. Mental issues, you know
what I'm saying, a.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
Lot of these a lot of people is over Medican
because they deal on mental health and they don't want
to do reality.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Man.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
These these young kids, you know, are dealing with levels
of trauma and bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
When you watch that Internet all day and you just.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Intake violence and negativity all day all day, that shit,
that shit clicks into your mind. We didn't have that
ship every day all day. We just seen negativity and violence.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
All all day, day, all day and ain't telling on themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
Like man, yo, I never had a beef at twelve
and thirteen where I was talking about much kill a
niggas at twelve. These niggas got beef to where they
they can't go outside it and they gonna kill each other.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
A trull.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
We was gonna fist fight. He went to park after school.
We was in the school yard. We might have fought,
but these niggas got guns and they killing each other
at twelve and thirteen.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
Man, yeah, real, it's damn. I'm being the house man.
I'll be honest you man. I stay in the house.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Man. That's the same place to be. Man. If I
ain't got nothing to do, I'll be in the house. Real.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Man, make some music man, that's it. Man, I can't
wait to hear this music. We gotta get in the studio, man, real, Nah, definitely.
You know we're gonna set it up. So we being
here together, we're gonna set it up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
I love you, man. Keep doing what you're doing, my brother.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Vio violence and drugs only.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Yeah, we.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Gotta get to see. This is the evolution that was
the young bottle.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
You know, we're gonna take the violence.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
Violence is something violence or something you know that's and.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
To me, a rebranding of yourself. As you come forward
with all of this new content and you're on the
next wave. That's a good thing to do. That that
was then that will actually garner you some attention, but
you already are getting attention, and you know you're out here.
But to show these young people that we used to

(01:01:55):
be this and now we're not that anymore. You know,
we're growing to different. So we My son is the
name genius. This is what does.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Yeah, you got you got you got you got you
gotta fix.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
I got you, I got you, got your attribute your
She's gonna be dope. Give me about the day, all right, go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Appreciate you so much for joining us. It was a
great convo and we're just you don't be prouder. We
just said we started our show today saying we rooting
for everybody black, number one and number two positivity, Like
that's what we want to be all about. This is
gonna be the time of just positive energy all day,

(01:02:37):
every day, because if we don't spread it for us,
who's gonna do it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
No one?

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Right, Love y'all, love, all right, dope.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Interview with my brother man. I told you like I
seen Vito grow up. He was a little teenager. J
Mills came under me. They were signed to Winn to Blow,
which was Ton's label who I was signed to, and
I was the first artist. And remember Jay Mills coming
to the studio as a teenager and when I got
locked up, Mills just stop growing up. He was with

(01:03:16):
young Money, and then Vado was his best friend. So
every time I would call home to speak to them,
he'd be like yo. I remember the first say you're yo,
this is my ma and Vado and Vido got.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
On the phone.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
He's like, yo, big hoomie. I love and respect everything.
And he was a humble dude. And I was like,
let me hear you rap.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
He was spitting. I was like, yo, he nice.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, man, I'm trying
to get on. I'm just learning from you know, Mills,
My man, I'm just learning.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
I love everything you do. I can't wait you come home.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
So watching him grow man from Against with Cam then
he was signed to cal It and just watching him
grow and.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Just sometimes you gotta take a little break and go
through whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
But I think he's gonna have a good researcher because
he's actually a dope artist.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
He's lirically phenomenal. And I'm listening to the collaborations him
and Lloyd Banks should be phenomenal because they punch lines
and they got that same New York that dope New
York delivery. And thirty eight specially is one of my
new up and coming dudes that I love, and he's
his production is crazy indeed, Davis, you know, that's the
Harlem thing that they got going on, so it should

(01:04:22):
be dope.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Man. I want to hear this song. I think I
heard the song with him and Mary J. Blige. It's
kind of fire.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
I heard funk Flex playing, so I want to see
the video though, But that's gonna be a good luck man.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
With the Queen, Lloyd Banks was like my biggest crush ever.
Like when he first came out, Oh my god, I
haven't seen I don't even know what he looks like today.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
He looks.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Still slimming, like like, you know, nice looking.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
I don't know about all that you got. He got
a he got an Instagram page. You can find him
up there. Lloyd's my guy too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Through all of that, however, he was like that was
a big deal. Back in the days, the girls was
all over. Lloyd Banks bench was one of them. We
got a nice sound in his voice, and you know
the whole thing. You know what the people said, We
liked him, so anyway, good to see. I want people
to come. We are we should be inspired to bring

(01:05:17):
back the good sounds and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Good music nurs.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
I want to hear rap because I love rappers like
I don't traff is cool, you know, drill whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
I want to hear rap.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
I want to hear dudes that can put words together,
melodies together, that make complete songs, that have a structure,
an idea, a thought process that make you think.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
And be like, damn, how did he say that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
I don't want you to be able to I don't
want to be able to think of the ship that
you say without thinking, right, that's what music is turned into.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
I'm gonna get me a cup of something to drink.
I'll shoot you. Could you you think my pussy is pink?

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
I got a chain with a link like that's that's
all they say in that And I don't I don't
you know. I'm not hating on no young, none of
that ship. I just want good music, man, I want
I want to hear rap. I wanted people to rap again, man,
So shout out to Bato, you know, and what what
that kind of brings me to my thought of the day,

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my thought of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
You they need to be not trying instead of here
say that the people took the p P loans and
went and bought sneakers, and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
You want to you want to bring that back because I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Telling you that that's a small fraction.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
I believe and I do.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
That's not true.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
What I'm trying to tell you is this there I'm
talking about in our communities, in the inner city communities
and the projects, in the poor communities, they are not
I can't think of one or two people that took
the p p P loans right that didn't have nothing,
that was doing illegally getting PPP loans, because ninety percent

(01:07:04):
of them this was illegally getting PPP loans that went
open the business.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
There's no new businesses inside the hood. The niggas that
was driving around and rented cars, they got.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Out in the hood. They in their house, they got
T shirt businesses, they have, they have bit glossed, they
have they have online.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Listen, we're having this conversation every day in the hood.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
The dudes who was outside with thirty thousand dollars chains,
they had new sniggers on every day they went and
brought cars. The cars done got repulled, the cars is gone.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
They don't got nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
So what happened is in order to try to keep
up with that lifestyle, they invested in crime. They trying
to rob niggas, They trying to stick you up. This
is a fact.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
This ain't some shit. I'm telling you that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
I think I'm telling you that the come ups wasn't
they wasn't me. If you give me one hundred and
two hundred thousand dollars, I'm sitting here, I'm putting down
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
How is this you gonna turn it to a million?

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
I'm not spending it on nothing right, And this is
what I was trying to explain to you Trump. And
in the comp they understand that they call black people
liquid money. They our money.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Does not circulate in our community.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
This is a fact. These are facts. So if I'm
a politician, I mean, we are doing better. You know,
we're learning, we're growing, you know a little bit at
a time. But I'm talking about when you give money
to people who just like if you look at most
of the the athletes, most of these athletes be rich,

(01:08:39):
they get their million, couple of million dollars, they be
poor within three or four years of leaving the league.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
They gotta get regular job. They have not invested the
money and they know that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
So if you give and these people got financial advisors,
they got all this shit. So if you give Jojo
fifty thousand dollars in the hood and he going to
spend it, it's gone. And once he done got a
lifestyle that he's trying to live up to. Only thing
he got after that is crime. He ain't going back
to fifteen hours an hour.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
You know what I mean. Time to have conversations with
these kids, and.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
You tell them to get a job, They're like, yo,
ain't working for fifteen dollars an hour, man twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
You crazy?

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
Because they touched some of that PPP money. You know this,
these kids, that's what That's what fucked them up. So
what I'm trying to say is trumping them understood that
he understood you could give them the money. They gonna
spinishit back. It's gonna flourish the economy. Some of them
gonna do some illegal shit. Some of them ain't supposed
to get it. We can lock them up. We got
throwing these judges in. We're gonna make stricter the laws.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
He told them. That's why he told me.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
They talked about they want to fucking kill drug dealers.
They want to fucking them, give them the death penalty right.
They want to do all because they understand. We understand
we put you in a position to where you're gonna
try your hand in drugs. You're gonna try your hand
in crime. You're gonna have these guns, You're gonna do
all this shit. We know that, So we set up
the mechanism to lock your as up after we gave

(01:10:01):
you these PPP lows and know that you ain't gonna
have no way to get no money again.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
You're gonna go to crime. We're gonna lock you up.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
And then what I was trying to explain, So I said,
nick y'all, y'all want to celebrate that, but the reality
is he understands that as long as I don't put.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Black people in power.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
I said, how many black people did Trump put in
power in his four years that he gave power to
to be able to change laws, to be able to
change structure, to get resources. Where's the black people that
he put in And I'm not a Joe bidenfair, I
don't give a fuck about none of these present.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Actually they're gonna say, they're gonna say, well, what did
well see, I'm not gonna let people do that because
they because.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
I know, I know, we literally know black people that
by didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
They did nothing but that. But but but these courts
across the nation where they had to have to put
maybe and there's been a lot of black women, but
let's not even talk about black women. Just trying not
to allow the conservatives to take over the courts all
across the board. Oh I bet you, I bet you.
If you look at that record, you will see the

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difference in the conservative judges versus more liberal judges, if
you will, Like people is talking a bunch of bullshit,
and it's so sad. It's just like, well, whatever that
was yesterday or whatever day telling us about the cotton
picking for three hundred dollars, that Joe Biden has jobs

(01:11:27):
now where only black people can pick cotton something dumb like, no,
it's not true, it's not I said.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
I said, they said three hundred dollars an hour. I said,
where is the job? I will pick cotton for three
hundred dollars. Where's it at I'm gonna give me a job.
I'm shigning up three hundred dollars an hour. Shit, I'm
be on it for good three months, every day, seven
days a week.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
I have to this show.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
Was a day, three hundred dollars an hour for three
months straight.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
I'm putting that that's a nice little nest egg. That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
You don't know when to stop working anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
All that because we need to get money. But I
don't get it. Is this.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
It's people so much right when I showed Diddy giving
a million dollars to the HBCUs and there were so
many people that, oh, that ain't ships a.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Tax right off, but it's one million more than they had.
What I'm saying this at the HBCU that don't get
no resources.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Listen, you know what.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
I don't get is why everybody's gonna just write the
tax off right because it's one million dollars, it's nothing,
that's a tax right off. Why don't you go give
your fifty dollars is a tax right off? Why don't
the nigga that got two hundred million go give his
his million that? Why why don't we all just get
the tax right off? Because we need to be supporting
each other. So why if you could say, allin not

(01:13:01):
it is a tax writ or won't you do that
and get the tax right off? Why everybody don't just
get the tax right off? Because everybody don't give a fuck.
That's what I wanted to understand, And I don't understand
why people don't get that if I care enough to
invest my money in something that I can get a
tax right off to too, I actually can't.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
And I'm gonna get a tax right off. Why do
I do it? Why do y'all want to criticize?

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
Why do y'all want to criticize somebody's doing something when
you're doing nothing? Oh, get you the tax right off?
I want everybody to get the tax right off to
the HBC.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
True, that's true. Okay, that is true. Shout out to
my girl, Mimi, Mimi Kay. This is her lip gloss
that I wear and it's clear, but because of my
pink other stuff and made it look a little pink.
But it's actually a clear lip boss that's really good.
And it doesn't have the white line all the time,
so you know that's it's super cool. Anyway, here's the thing, right,

(01:14:00):
here's a bunch of places that he could get the
tax right off to. He could give it to the
Boys and Girls Club, he could give it to all
types of stuff. But he's choosing to get his tax
right off, which, like you said, is a mutual benefit
to an HBCU where black students don't have resources. So
at the end of the day, and by and by

(01:14:21):
the way, by the way, by the way, these people
went to HBCU, some of them, that's probably saying, why
it's just a tax right off and they don't give
their contributions to keep their schools going. So people are
just full of shit. That's what it's called.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
That's what That's what the bottom line is. Everybody has
excuse for somebody else's good deed, right. Oh the only
do you know what the dude said to me, I said,
I was talking mo.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
I said, Yo, I don't really care about Biden or Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
I don't do a fuck about that, but I know
that pretty much Biden has one of the has hired
probably the most black people in administration that I've seen. Now,
maybe there's been one that has done more, but I
have never seen more black people in no administration ever
in the history of the presidency. I've never seen it.

(01:15:18):
And then you know what the dude said. He said,
he's just doing that because he wants us to get
on his side.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Mm hmm, that's what you suppose. You always say your
thing every election where they say they panda and you
say panda to me, that's like, that's like, that's like
a friend of mine seeing a guy taking me out,
buying me things, doing nice things. Manage. Oh, he's just
trying to get some coats. Yeah, that's how you did it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
That's what you're supposed to do. It's the whole job
to court me. You're supposed to court me and do
the things I want done that you want done.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
And the problem is will you maintain it?

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
But which is not even that?

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
The thing is this, once I've once I've decided that
you've earned my vote, that means you already done enough
for me to take the step. So the minute that
you stop maintaining that, I don't give you no more
of whatever it is that you want for me. You
understand I'm saying. So, of course, your job is to
do the ship that I need you to do. Like right,
if you're working for me and you do it, okay, boy,

(01:16:30):
I'm gonna pay you the minute you stop doing the
ship that I want done? Did I find you like
that's part of it, that's part of the process. You're
supposed to pay it. You're suppanta do all the ship
that I want you to do so that I get
on your side. That shit blew my mind. I'm like, so,
what is he supposed to do? Not do the ship
that I want and still expect me to be on

(01:16:52):
this side? Like I want to understand what are y'all
going for? Y'all love y'all don't want to vote for
the people or put people in office that do the
ship that you want them to do so that they
can get you on they side. I'm funk saying. I'm
not talking about don't just say what I want you
to say. I'm talking about do what I want you
to do, do the ship that I want you to do.

(01:17:13):
That's how you get somebody's vote. But I digress, man.
You know people, it's people, crazy people. It's crazy people,
and that they're gonna be what they be, man, And
you be on.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
There talking to folks that I wouldn't give them, and
you be talking to people to harry and tell them
and with a shot souse.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
Sometimes it's just I really just be wanting to understand
what they be saying, because it be.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Like, no, you don't you understand. That's not what it is.
It's not that you want to understand what they be saying.
You be wanting them to understand what you're what you're saying.
That's what makes you insane to convince someone who is
paid or and or a volunteer to assist them that

(01:18:00):
never ever wants to hear your truth or understand anything
you say.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
What I want to do is get somebody who is
saying something to actually hear what they're saying, right, because
when they say shit that don't make sense, I often
repeat it and say, so is this what you're saying
so they can listen and be like and their offen.
So no, that's not what I'm saying' saying No, that's
exactly what you're saying. Well, I didn't then say what

(01:18:26):
you say some shit that makes sense? Stop saying shit
that makes absolutely zero sense. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Good night and good night and go in.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Peace, Go in peace. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
Once again, it's another end of another Dope episode. Shout
out to my brother Vidal Man go out. Listen to
that new single with him and Mary J. Blige. I
heard it on Flex. You only can hear it on Flex.
You know the singles dropping soon projects. I'm looking forward.
We're gonna get in the studio. I'm back outside and
I'm back. I'm ready to rap because none of your

(01:18:59):
niggas can't outrap. Y'all know that, So we that's just nothing.
I'm just now I'm reinvigorating my energy to just get
out there and destroy y'all, you know, because I think
it's coming back to wrap.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
You know, they want to hear let everybody where I
go Mice, I want to hear project. I want to project.
We need some new music.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
So and my brother Bronx Logo is telling me I
need to get back at the studio because I'm the
hip hop savior.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
So shout out to Logo yo, and.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
We outside every all of our fans, thank you for
supporting Street Politicians.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
We love y'all. Keep on supporting us.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
Let us know what you like, but you don't because
we number one podcast in the world, and it's only
because of y'all, only because y'all stick with us through
dick and thin, and we appreciate y'all. Man hit us
up on Street Politicians product and let us know what
you want. I'm not gonna always be right to make
a d Mallory is not gonna always be wrong. We
will both always and I mean always, be authentic.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
Pace out, Listen to Street Politicians on the Black Effect
Network on iheartrate.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
And catch us every single Wednesday for the video version
of Street Politicians on eyewomen dot TV.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
That's how
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