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March 26, 2024 32 mins

"It's similar to when you train a dog, to be honest, the way I train a man with the Circles of Hell technique."

 

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  • Produced by Tenderfoot TV in association with iHeart Podcasts
  • Host/Writer: Neil Strauss
  • Guest: Aliia Roza
  • Executive Producers: Neil Strauss, Donald Albright and Payne Lindsey
  • Lead Producer and Editor: Tristen Bankston
  • Additional Editing: Miles Clark and Christian Brown
  • Supervising Producer: Tracy Kaplan
  • Consultants: Nooshin Valizadeh, Chelsey Goodan and Jaime Albright 
  • Cover Art Design: Byron McCoy
  • Original Music: Makeup and Vanity Set, with additional music by Ben Fleisch
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  • Theme song: Killer Shangri-lah by Pshycotic Beats featuring Pati Amor
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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and sexual themes. Listener discretion is advised.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
There was a very big shooting competition in the military
academy with over a thousand participants. The cornell called me.
He said, listen, you're one of the best gun shooters.
I want you to participate in this competition. And it's
very important because first of all, it will give you
financial bonus and second you'll make a academy like to

(00:55):
be one of the best. So I want you to
participate in this competition. I said, yeah, of course I
would love that. He said, okay, you need to practice more,
so come to the shooting range every day after your lessons.
So I came to the shooting range and he gave

(01:18):
me pistol at Macaroff, the handgun Macaroff. Usually we are
in the shooting range with lots of people students, and
that moment it was only me and him, and I
heard some stories that sometimes very rarely did happen when

(01:39):
students kill another student by accident, and the student didn't
go to jail because it was accidents. So I took
this gun and it was heaving cold, and it was
so powerful because it's just a power to know that
you can you can kill someone with this gun. So

(02:04):
I was standing there and I was thinking, if I
showed him right now, can I prove that it was
an accident. Well, that moment, I just had anger and
I had that thought that if I will kill him

(02:24):
right now here, there's no witnesses, It's only me and him.
I was holding this gun and Cornell was behind me
telling me how I should stand and look at the target.
And I was so close to doing that, but I

(02:51):
didn't do it. I said myself, I should wait because patients,
it's another important skill. Agent has to be very very
patient because you never know. But life will always give
you chance to do the revenge. And it was given

(03:16):
to me later.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
To kill you. I'm really sorry that us like you toss.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Episode seven, Chapter fifteen, The Necklace.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
The major female teachers said to us, you know when
you will be ready, when you can seduce anyone with
your eyes, and.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
The students the major believed were finally ready. The time
had come for the ultimate application of this knowledge, a
real world demonstration. So the major took Aliyah and the
other students out of the academy and into town for
the first time.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
They went to the bar kind of like lounge bar,
and she said, okay, just like look what I'm doing,
and then you repeat the same.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
The major's goal was to demonstrate the most important technique
of sexpionage, to get the target to make the initial
approach to the agent and try to pick her up.
To think the seduction is their idea, not the agents.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
She said that my target would be that guy who
is sitting there surrounded by his crew. He's the main
guy there because everybody bring him drinks, So I need
to seduce him. How do I do it? Watch me
and now a major female teacher. She walked like a queen,

(05:40):
and every single guy who was sitting there they just
looked at her. She was just like walking, very relaxed,
pouring her high heels and pencil skirt short was a
little bit open so you can see her beautiful cleavage.
She walked inside and every scene giral cheer at the

(06:01):
bar boards busy. But when she woke. She stopped and
she looked to a man next to her, like who
was sitting at the bar chair, and he automatically just
s tent up and he offered her to sit there,
So she did it with only her eyes like, I
was really impressed. She opened her purse and she took

(06:24):
like a cigarette all the like men who was next
to her daylightening it up for her. She didn't even
say thank you.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Aliah watched with admiration as the Major worked the room,
getting free drinks from the men there and talking with
them just enough to capture the attention of her target.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Eventually he stood up and he came to her, offering
her drink. That's how she did it, She provoked him
by competition.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
By the end of the demonstration, the Major had the
target eating out of her hands. It was proved to
Aliah that these methodical technique worked quickly and powerfully in
real life. By now, Leah's world at the military Academy
had become focused on two people. First the major, who
she deeply admired as a teacher and as a woman,

(07:15):
and secondly, the colonel, who she deeply manipulated to think
she admired him as a teacher and as a man.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
So I was constantly asking him questions and constantly learning,
and of course as a teacher, first of all, he
loved that and litt old, stupid, silly, eighteen years old
student was listening to him with old respect, and he
shared a lot with me. So eventually she he shared

(07:45):
so many things about his childhood and his issues, and
his family and his wife and kids. So I knew
about him like everything, like my five fingers.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Eventually, those two worlds, these two teachers would come into
conflict because as a Lea's seduction of the colonel began
to transition from lust to mentorship to love, something unexpected happened.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
It wasn't just sex. Maybe like ninety percent of our
time we would.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Talk, and he evolved into our relationship because of these
conversations when I looked into his eyes with full of
love and admiration, and I would tell him, oh, my love,
you're so tired, you have so many things on your shoulders.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
I just want to help you. Just relax and close
your eyes and I'll be here for you. And he
became addicted to that.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Aliyah then combined this with an even more powerful technique,
one that really pushed the kernel over the edge into
infatuation with something she learned in her class with the
major called circles of hell.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Circles of Hell technique. It's similar when you train the
dog to be honest the way you train a man.
In the beginning with the coronel, I gave him everything,
but it wasn't really me. I was playing. If he
would do something good to me, I would give him

(09:42):
a massage, I would please him or like, do whatever
he wants. But if he wouldn't do what he usually does,
so for example, if he would say something like not nice,
I would just go quiet and ignore him, like a
bit where I just put a distance. So he feels like, oh,

(10:07):
something is wrong, but he doesn't know why. So it
kind of like hooks him and then he tries to
do more. He puts more efforts, he thinks about me,
so then he is obsessed. Then he does something good.
Then okay, I let him to come closer. The target

(10:27):
has always think that it's always a challenge, it's always
an effort. It's always like I do one step, I
get something. If I do something bad, I go to
step back. It's like levels of game. So this is
the circle of health technique, and it's perfect for any

(10:50):
relationship with any targets.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
This technique was extremely effective on the kernel, and soon
he was doing things for Elia that you never imagined
when she first blotted her revenge.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
She invited me to like spa resort hotel with the
lake and everything, and he was drinking and he was loud,
and he was funny, and he felt himself like twenty
years old boy, and we spoke a lot. I went

(11:30):
into the mood of being just a little girl. And eventually,
when he said this word, when I will die, I
know that you will come to my grief to speak
with me because you love me. I know you love me.
So that moment I understood that that's it. He's there.

(11:56):
He really trust me, and he felt in love of
total control the moment he abused me, the moment I
walked out from that office with tears in my eyes,

(12:17):
feeling absolutely like shit, feeling disgraceed. I think my father's
voice was inside of my head and it's always there
telling me you cannot give up.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
So what do I do?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
I decided to become the best student to learn every
single technique they said. The strongest power that woman has
is to make men fall in love, because once he's there,
then it's just the perfect power. You can do then
everything you want. So till the moment when he told

(12:59):
me these words, I felt like, yes, motherfucker, I did it.
Now I will show you. It was so hard and
it took me so long, but I fucking did it,
and you'll pay for it.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Eliah's plan had worked all too well. She was no
longer an object to be used, but a human being
he developed real feelings for.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
He really strongly believed that we may be together till
the rest of his life.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
So I just programmed his brain with this belief, which
basically just changed his whole mindset, and that's why he
started to invest into me and wanting to show everybody
this is my woman.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Shortly after this potification, the Colonel invited Leah to his office.
This would not be like the visits before. He had
something he wanted to give her.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
She said, well, I have something for you. He gave
me a box and I didn't know what is inside,
and I started to open it. It was a golden
necklace with some diamonds on it, and it was written

(14:32):
my name. I never had anything like that, and it
was expensive, so I was really surprised, and I had
these ice like, oh my god, wow, thank you so
much like the little girl when daddy buys her a
dolt be which she was dreamed of. When he saw

(14:57):
the eyes, he started to smile. I'm the man I
pleased her. And when he presented that necklace, it was
sort of his.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Love.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
I took it and I looked at it, and he said, worried,
don't wait, worried, and we're thinking, I cannot worry it.
It's too expensive. I mean, what I'm supposed to do
with this. I cannot show it to my parents. They
will ask me questions like where did you take it from?

(15:34):
And all my classmates will notice that. And I said,
oh my god, I'm afraid to lose it. It's so
beautiful and so expensive. And he said, don't worry, just
worr it. I want you to wear it every day.
So he helped me to put it on, and then
he started to fuck me from behind, and he said,

(15:58):
I want to fuck you and look at you wearing
this necklace all the time. Then of course he wanted
to show everybody that this is his female and that's
why he bought such an expensive necklace to show everyone
that's she is mine.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Leah's worries about what would happen if other's noticed the
necklace quickly came true when she wore the necklace to
her class with the major, who was also sleeping with
the colonel.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I noticed during the whole lesson she would look at
me with this weird look like she knows something I
didn't really understand what, like, maybe she's in a bad mood.
I don't know, because she was really nice to me
in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
During a break in the class, when most of the
other students were out of the room, the major approached Leah.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
She comes to me very close, and she rapes it
like she rips it off. That's how angry was her.
And I was standing there and I understood that that's
a problem. She didn't scream at me, but it was

(17:24):
obvious that she was piaced. So I had this question, like,
why would she react like that. It means that she
really cares about this coronel. So if I will go
and tell him about her, then it would be a
problem to me. So I decided not to tell him anything,
and I just collected all these pieces from the floor

(17:49):
of this necklace and I put it into my bag.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Fortunately, the kernel was away from the academy for the
next few days. Leah had a little time to figure
out what to do about the necklace. Meanwhile, in class,
the major acted as if nothing had happened. The students
were now learning the final lessons in this top secret
program fetishes threesomes and other ways too. As the major
put it, get a target stuck on the sex process

(18:18):
with the agent.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Our teacher, our major said that if you find your
target fetish or weaknesses and sex, you can dominate on that.
Using these knowledges, you can make him to tell you more,
to do for you more, or basically to be your

(18:42):
sex slave, or just is like another fetish tool. So
you can always manipulate with that. For example, if you
like there are two female agents and they do this,
it's easier to back up each other in order to
get information or terminate the target.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Leah noticed that after these lessons, the other students started
getting manipulated in the group sex situations the various commanding officers.
She felt safer being protected by the colonel, and so
one day her teacher, the major, approached her again.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
She called me and I came closer to her, and
she said, well, I have a special assignment for you,
but you cannot talk about this to anyone. If you
will do that, then I promise that you won't have
any problem with me. If you won't do that, I'll

(19:39):
call to your parents and I will tell to you
that that you you are a whore, and he will
take you from this academy with the biggest embarrassment you
can ever have, and I will tell everything about your
relationship with Colonel. It was such a black male. I

(20:00):
wanted to tell her. Look, it's not my fault. You
know him very well. You know what does he do
to other students. I'm not your enemy. I'm exactly in
the same shoes like you are. I don't want him,
I don't like him. But when I started to talk,
she said, like shut up, and I couldn't talk. She said,

(20:25):
we will go tonight at eight pm to the hotel.
She said, I have to wear something sexy and high shoes,
and she said, don't you dare forget how I taught
you how to walk and put the makeup. Tonight is

(20:46):
your first mission.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
The envelope.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
I got prepared, I put the makeup on, I put
high heels, I put like, you know, this short black
dress which I had. I took my bag and I
went downstairs and she was waiting in the car and

(21:31):
she gave me an envelope. She said, I have to
put this envelope into informers suitcase. She showed me his
black and white picture. He's married, his child just was born,
and she said that he had these accesses to kind

(21:54):
of like programs or something, so just give him the envelope,
but make it he would notice. We came to the hotel.
We walked into the lobby. I never been in such
a lavish, beautiful hotels, big lobbies and golden lamps, and

(22:16):
was like luxury. We walked into the bar and she
said just wait for him at the bar and the
tit and she just left. So I sat down, I

(22:37):
ordered a drink and I was waiting. I had the
envelope in my back. I was thinking, okay, so I
need to distract his attention so I could put this
envelope into his suitcase. So he walked in and he
walked in without suitcase, and I was like, fuck, like

(23:01):
what do I do? When he walked in, he saw
me and he sat nearby, and for me, it was
a disaster. First of all, I didn't even know how
to start a conversation. Thank god, he started to look
at me and he asked, are you here by yourself?

(23:23):
Like yeah, and he's like looking for new clients, and
I understood him and that I'm a prostitute. I was thinking, actually,
this is helped because look, if I can pretend that
I'm a prostitute, and if I can get closer to him,

(23:45):
I may be able to give him envelope right, and
I can always find the way how to get out.
So I said, yeah, you know, just that's it. And
he's like how much? And I'm like, fuck, I don't
know how much, Like I don't have any ideas about
like how much these girls like you know, take And

(24:06):
all I could say is said, well, we can negotiate.
He said okay. So he took my hand and he said, like,
follow me. I took my back and they walked together
to the elevator and then he stopped. He looked at

(24:28):
my body and he said, you have exactly the body
of my wife. But she just gave a burst recently,
so she have these like extra kilos and I really
miss her body. So we went to his room and
I didn't want to have sex with him, like no,

(24:49):
like definitely not. He put on the table some cash
for me, I guess, just to show me that money.
I hear and he's like, okay, so get undressed, and
I was like a little bit like starting kind of
like undressing myself. But I was like, oh, you mentioned

(25:11):
that you just had a baby, like, is it a boy? Girl?
So I tried to start in conversation on his family,
because I knew that time that to distract men from
sexual intentions, if you would speak about family and kids,
it's another topic which is not sexy at all. And

(25:36):
he said, yeah, I just had a baby girl and
she's adorable. And I'm like, oh my god, that's so nice.
Do you have her pictures? He's like, oh, yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
I do.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
And he opened his wallet. And when he was opening
his wallet, I saw that he was taking it from
his suitcase, which actually was on the table. So it's like, okay,
so I can put there the envelope.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Leah drew out the conversation, getting him to focus on
his wife and his feelings for her.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
So I was listening to him with eyes full of
admiration how I was taught, and all I was thinking
is just like I need to get out from here,
like he's up, like leaving the envelope in his suitcase
of he wouldn't understand that I gave it to him,

(26:28):
and I said, listen, you love her so much, but
do you often use services of prostitutes? And he said no,
I don't. I got so bored and I just wanted
to talk to someone and there was nobody apart from you,
and I was like, thank god, this is It's just

(26:51):
like much better for me. So he said, do you mind,
I feel just talk? Like is it okay for you
if you won't have sex. I'm like, yes, of course,
totally fine. Just let's talk. I love the conversation.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Aliyah and her target continued drinking and talking.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
About like forty to fifty minutes. He said, I'm going
to the toilet, and it was perfect because I could
put the envelope into his suitcase. So the minute he
closed the door, I quickly stand up and I took
the envelope. It was closed, so I never had a

(27:34):
chance to open it and see what's inside. But when
I opened his suitcase, I saw many many papers, and
I understood there was some important information. So I put
the envelope there and I closed the suitcase. And then

(28:00):
when he came back, I was sitting in the same position,
in the same place. He didn't notice anything. He was talking.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
And eventually her target said he had to sleep and
catch a flight in the morning.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
So he said, yeah, I feel tired, but yeah, thank
you so much for the conversation. Money there on the table,
So he took the money and put it into my
purse and I walked out from his room. So I thought, hmm,
I did it nicely. The job is done. Thank god.

(28:36):
I did need to sleep with him, It's perfect. I
was like, okay, so you know, in the morning, I'll
tell Mejor that I did my job successfully and I
was amazing and all this stuff. Next morning, the cornell
called for me. I thought, he just like wants to
see me, just for his routine. But it was quite early,

(29:03):
so I had to leave the lesson and go into
his office, and the moment I walked in, he started
to scream, like screaming, what the hell are you thinking?
Why would you do this? Why didn't you tell me
you like like you destroyed everything we did for the

(29:24):
last few months, and I couldn't understand what he was
talking about.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Apparently, whatever was in this envelope, or perhaps the way
it was delivered, spook the target and it somehow got
back to the colonel. However, the colonel seemed less upset
about the mission being possibly blown and about the fact
that Aliyah had been alone in a hotel room with
this man.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
The first thing he asked me, did you have sex
with him? I said no, and he said, don't lie
to me. I said no, I didn't, and he asked me, like,
how long were you there? Said like, well, about an hour,
and what were you doing for the whole hour? I said, like,
we just were talking about his family. And he said,
this is bullshit. Don't lie to me. What really happened?

(30:13):
And I said, like, nothing happened. We didn't even kiss,
we were just talking. He's a nice guy, but first
of all, the coronel was really jealous. Second, he was
a control freak and he didn't believe me. So yes,
it did compromise my relationship with him.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
After that day, Aliyah didn't see the major again. Her
teacher had either been retired or sent elsewhere. Rather than
celebrate this as a victory over her rival, Aliah saw
it as a grim warning of the fate that awaited
her in this corrupt system.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
I said myself, I don't want to end up like her,
living in that life, like in the cage, having no family,
no children, no real man who really loves you, who
really cares about you, where you just committed and devoted

(31:19):
to do what your country wants you to do, and
you just become older and in the end, when you've
become an old dog, they just threw you out of
the system, give you a small pension, and you dying alone.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Elia's story continues in episode eight, available now.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
We had a dinner. It looked normal in the beginning,
but it wasn't. It took me many years to understand
what really happened that night.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
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