February 16, 2021 • 29 mins
After months of infiltrating Nextcorp, Jack works tirelessly to gain Max’s trust while secretly investigating his brother’s death. But as Jack gets ever closer to Max, and to uncovering the truth, tragic secrets from the past surface and a dark side of Max is revealed.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tomorrow's Monsters as a production of My Heart Radio. Flynn
Picture Company, Psycopia Pictures and Upper Room Productions. Welcome to
Fast Troup, America's as fastest reach charge station. You have
made right, right choice with Fast Troup. January seven, Keystone, Nebraska,
(00:22):
almost midnight. I had to stop and recharge the car,
and I think I was gonna make it. I've been
on the road for over twenty four hours now, about
thirty hours still to go before I reached Arlington unless
they catch me first. The night after my first day
and next Corpus Max Fullest personal assistant, I tracked down
(00:42):
David Truesdale, one of the participants of the first phase
of human Trials, and didn't go well. Have you had
any more contact with the next quarter You've spoken to
Max Fuller since? Yeah? Just Benjamin's Benjamin, Mr Truch. Looking back,
(01:15):
that's when all the trouble started. I didn't know who
was on to me at the time when I started digging,
so he didn't go unnoticed. Dr Abby Reynolds had tipped
me off to Truesdale's whereabouts. She was next Corps physician.
Her job was to monitor and track the test subjects
during the shot I research similar behaviors, pacing, digging at
(01:37):
the bottoms of their cages, and attacking each other. I
am terminating this roundup test. The fact that she oversaw
faced one of the human trials despite something going horribly
wrong with the previous animal tests, and she must have
been instrumental in covering up. The only thing I knew
for sure is that she would crack. She wasn't a
(01:57):
crypto hold onto a sea Christ much longer. Her moral
compass wouldn't allow it. She was too good. I could
said a lot about person that way, and if anyone
could break her, it was me. I just needed to
find her. Let me gome a fast track already. Never today, okay, okay,
(02:19):
just hurry up. M oh damn, please let your charge? Christ?
What is this kind of one? She's gonna stand there?
Stay on board? Can I help here? May decided for
(02:44):
electric You know the gas pumps are on the other side.
Recharge complete, Jack, Let's go on, let's considering your side.
Let's let's go. Let's go resuming, Chris. Who was that
(03:21):
stark out here? I can see the dull glow of
some metropolis off in the distance. Highways are for getting
from A to B and back rows of what happens
in between. My father told me that once it was bullshit.
Of course, my father was capable of a massive amount
(03:42):
of bullshit. The truth is he was avoiding major highways
because he was on the run and there are less
facial recognition cameras on the back roads. My father, when
he passed away, he had nothing, no heirlooms, no family possessions.
He came from nothing and to nothing he returned. He
(04:05):
died alone with twenty five K in a sock drawer
my inheritance. That and the pile of video tapes filled
with footage of me as a boy. You think that's
what because I know that you thought I was going
to give your other hand. I switched it because he
(04:27):
thought I was going to do that trick every time.
Always watched the hun on. Man. If there's only one
thing you learned from your papa, it's how to read
people and to always watch the hunt abby, always watch
the hands of None of these have ever been digitized
(04:48):
by his old penis on the camera still worked. My
father didn't believe in digital No social media profiles, no
online accounts, no digital footprint at all, which seems impossible
these days. Ship it's almost magic. Him being or nobody
to him meant that he could be anybody, anyone he
needed to be, depending on the circumstances. That's what it
(05:08):
takes to be a professional. Comment. When I was ten,
he decided that it was time for me to learn
the family business, how to support a sucker and how
to pocket their money. Whether they're noble laureates or low
life hustlers or fathers cast long shadows. When you were born,
each of you, there was a scene in you, deep down,
(05:33):
and this was potential. This could grow into a billion
different things. This is doctor Walter Fuller, Max's father, from
a commencement speech at Stanford University. More sure when he's exactly,
but the doctor seems to be in the fourties dust
(05:53):
of silver. These temples, a man in his prime. Family
gave you alluring and powerful you needed to get here.
You have found and trained a passion long enough for
it to get you through one of the most challenging
periods in your life. And what you need to do
now is to forget it all. Forget all of it,
(06:16):
everything that led you to this moment. Let it go
because it isn't real anymore. It isn't real because it
no longer exists. It's in the past. The only thing
that does exist right now is right now, this present moment,
and this this, this is where the future begins. In
(06:37):
this moment, you are in the prime of your life
and on the edge of a new era of human history.
From this moment, anything is possible. You are the authors
of what happens next. You can predict the future by
inventing it. Mh predict the future by inventing him when
(07:03):
he did. Walter Fuller's contribution to the world of medicine
is immeasurable. The millions saved each year as a result
of that contribution, the noble prize he won as a
consequence Walter fullest work has been widely praised and documented
in history books. But Walter fullest personal life was jealously guarded.
(07:25):
You know, it's astonishing that a public figure like Walter
Fuller was able to keep details of his private life
secret in this day and age. I guess that's one
thing he had in common with my father. Even though
my father had no public identity at all. Like me,
Max's father was mostly absent from his life it's one
thing we have in common. Yet you know, they told
(07:48):
us to see the world very differently. My father taught
me to track patterns and be an observer, Trust no one,
and never take your eyes off the hands, because everything
in if it's a con and everyone is always on
the take. Max's father taught him to repress the past,
live only for the future, and that nothing else matters.
(08:12):
So we came from very different backgrounds. Max and I
we had did nothing common for me to be able
to earn his trust. He took a shine to me
because I made myself the protegee that he wanted, brilliant
and wounded someone like himself. I keep thinking about the
first time I saw it the other side of Max Fuller.
(08:36):
It was almost midnight on December, the night he disappeared.
The entire team was working over time preparing for TES,
the International Consumer Electronic Show. This was to be the
proving ground for Next Corps New Mind apps. When I
leaned into Max's office, I heard him talking to someone.
(08:58):
It was he, but when I opened the door, I
would not just stand me. There was no one else
in the room. Jack, No, No, it's fine. I was
actually just having a drink just Max, Would you like one?
(09:19):
I think so. I want to let you know that
across the table. But to see yes, innovation awards off
the yaquina. Oh that's excellent. Is there anything else for tonight?
I have a seen Jack? Please, I insist? Okay, sure,
how's your mother? Jack? I'm sorry forgiving me. You don't
(09:45):
have to answer that. I know it's personal. It's just
that I was thinking about her, About my mother. Yeah, yes,
it's not lost to me what you must be going through.
She isn't verbal anymore. It's really hard when they get
(10:06):
to that point. There you go. Thanks. You know I
still call her, you know, doctors save my voice calmed her?
Which is you know? You know that that that makes sense.
Your mother is one of the last humans on earth
of the primal brain. You and I we grew up
(10:26):
with smartphones. Because of that, our brains are wired completely differently.
The massive amount of screen time is forced completely different
neural connections. For us. Our ability to recognize faces and
voices is nowhere near to that of our parents. You know,
my biggest regret not spending more time with her, If
(10:49):
that's sure? I mean, do any of us ever really
have enough? Time with the people we love. But no,
she always had the best advice. Yeah, any girl outdated.
My mother always knew exactly how long it would last.
When I listened to my mother, my life was better.
(11:12):
She was wise. Now all that wisdom has gone. It's
just con Are you the only one taking care of her? Yeah?
Just me now, all alone with her here now. Yeah.
(11:36):
I had had a brother, but he's gone. Huh. I
thought you said you didn't have any siblings. He was
a he was a soldier, a soldier. Huh. I'm sorry.
(11:58):
I didn't know we had so much in common. M
my apologies. I really don't mean to be invasive. I've
been told I lack a certain social etiquette. It's difficult
for me to decipher what's appropriate when it comes to
personal matters. So you're so, what about your brother? What
(12:20):
about him? You still miss him? Ah Um, I'm sorry, maxxive,
Now I'm being too forward. No, no, no, no, you're not.
It's okay, okay. And that's when it happened. My father
used to call it the shift. The moment of sucker
(12:41):
makes the choice to trust you. For most people, to
shift happens right away. Well, that's if the coin is good.
I'm gonna be honest. Max Filler what no Stocker. I've
been working on shifting him for months. They just kept
studying me like a fucking spider. I never broke them.
And then it happened, right then Max's gaze transformed. He
(13:03):
went from observing me too m to trust in me. No,
I don't miss him. It's not like that. What should like.
It's been over thirty years now, and there's still an
ache sometimes a little tightening in the chest, you know,
(13:24):
But like anything, it's just sort of fulled up into
the rest of your life eventually. I guess you, of
all people would know that, all right, Jack, Oh, they
live on inside us, in our thoughts and our dreams.
What do you mean? What I mean is our thoughts
are shaped differently for having known them, and these thoughts
take form in our actions, and our actions eventually become
(13:46):
cemented into habits. So we look at ourselves in the mirror.
You can see our brothers just reflected back. That was cheesy. Sorry,
it's poetic, actually, no, or maybe you know, maybe it's
more like what am I trying to say? We're haunted
(14:11):
by them. Trauma is the Achilles heel. It can be
our saving grace, but it can also be our downfall.
It's a design flaw design for him. He was my
father's favorite, you know, my brother Benjamin, his favorite son.
(14:32):
That my father would have never said that. I'm sure
that wasn't the case. I think he loved Ben's brashness.
I mean, kid was the first out of the womb.
He's the first to walk. Like I said, he was
a lot more like my mom. And when he died,
it was as if he took the last of her
with him. And so Dad threw himself into work full force.
He took all of the energy he would have taken
(14:54):
into raising us and plowed into the future without me.
What do you do? What did I do? I went
to boarding schools. What I did when when I came
home from school. I didn't notice a change in him
because he was always sort of distant with me. He
didn't notice a change in himself because he was too
(15:15):
focused on the work and too vain to admit to
himself that he was slipping. It was his assistant, Marie
who finally came to me. They could have stopped it,
but he was already so diminished. It was too late
for any of his drugs to really save him, and
they hadn't figured out yet how to reverse it. Marie
(15:36):
had been too afraid to say anything. God, what I'm
getting at is there's a danger in surrounding yourself with
people who regard you too highly. Jack Hm, that's why
you were here. That wasn't why I was Damn. That
was three months into my time at Next Corporate, and
I'd spent most of that time when I was in
(15:57):
photo of Max around as a perfect persige, digging into
his company's secrets, trying to take him down. And I
hadn't made much progress to that end until that night.
Something happened that changed everything. I needed to find Next
Corps Achilles Hill. I need to find Abbie Reynolds. And
now it was the night I finally cool a break.
(16:29):
I needed to find Abbie Reynolds. And that was the
night I finally cool a break. I have this video
of my father of his final hours. Sometimes I watch
it to remind myself. It was the only time my
father told me that he was proud of me. It
was like a fleeting moment of clarity. Any time, I'll
(16:53):
be right back. He was going for a few minutes,
Can I hurt it? Another voice? Just like before, But
there was someone else in the barthroom with Max. So
I stood up and slowly approached the barroom door so
they could cast some v in my hidden mic. What
(17:17):
the hell? Who is that? No? H? I slipped back
into my seat. And when he came out, and it's
gonna be hard to explain. When he came back from
(17:37):
the bar froom, something was different. He stood there studying me, smiling.
Now he had shifted to something new, something dark, His
eyes intense. He seemed almost wild. He had on the
(18:00):
gone to some kind of transformation. Is everything okay with you?
I want you to see it? Wa just wait, wait
and watch hey that Yeah, it's me Dad. I need
(18:30):
my glasses. I can't. I can't find it. Where am I?
Goddamn class? Here? The right here? That I got? Oh? Okay?
Then turned my hand, I got got hand. Okay, it's you. Yeah,
it's it's me. Okay, Ketto, Where are your baby? Ketto?
(18:55):
Where have you been? Dinner was two hours ago? It
was two hours ago? Okay, okay, okay, no wait wait
wait that's not right. That's not right. God, damn it,
that's not right. I'm I'm sorry. I am not really
myself these days, these things get a little. It's okay,
(19:17):
I get fuzzy. No, I know, bodies get old. You know,
it's it's criminal. Oh how are your studies? Have you?
Have you done your readings? Have you completed that? Sir? Yes, sir?
You have speak up son? Have you? Yes? Sir, yes, sir,
(19:38):
I have good that's good. Good. No, that's yeah, that's
good for you, good for you. Have you taken your medicine? Dad?
Fran Scene said you're being difficult. What what did you say?
She said that? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
(19:59):
excuse me. I'm not being difficult. I'm not. That bitch
keeps coming into my goddamn house, into my room. She
comes out, and she tells me what I can do.
It's my goddamn she know, she just cannot tell me
what to do with my goddamn dad. Calm down, don't
she's not even here right now, your hands, Dad, I'm
trying to help you. Right off me. Get the funk
(20:21):
off me. Dad. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No,
it's no, don't apologize. I'm I'm sorry to It's okay.
Just h I I've been I've been a little modeled lately.
(20:52):
It's I think it's the work. It's just been too much.
I get it. It's it's look at you. Look at you.
You are a good boy. You have always been special,
and I am so sorry that I have never really
said it. But it's true. I have always known that
(21:14):
you would do great things. As much as much as
I have hopefully accomplished, as hard as I've worked, and
as as far as I may have raised the bar,
I have got nothing on you, son. I've got nothing
on you. You are going to change the world in
ways I can't even imagine. Do you hear me? Yeah,
(21:39):
it's true. Thank you so much, Dad, thank you, thank you.
It's true. Benjamin, what did you call me? Jesus? It's recent, Benny?
Would you turn up the thermostat said? Then he too
(22:00):
is where I like it. I don't know why she
likes it so God damn Colt. He was so far
gone that he didn't know who's talking to The one
time he expressed pride in his son, Max, and I
thought it was a lucid moment. I believe, deep down,
(22:27):
despite the years of guilt I felt from my part
of my brother's death and my fear that my father
despised me for killing his favorite son, that maybe he
was actually accepting of me, proud of me. He thought
I was Benjamin still alive, because because that was my
(22:53):
father's fantasy after all, his secret wish that my brother
ben had lived and that I had been the one
who died that day in the ice. It was never
me he would be proud of. Do you know why
(23:13):
it is that we do what we do so that
people do not to suffer? No, this video goes on.
I won't trouble you further with it, but in ten
minutes he ships himself in fift as I'm trying to
(23:36):
clean the ship off the legs and ass of a
nobel laureate, the single strongest man I've ever known, whose
work changed the entire course of modern medicine as we
know it. Do you know what he does? He starts
to pray our father, who weren't in heaven out of nowhere.
This lifelong committed atheist who felt nothing but sustained towards religion,
(24:01):
who called it a weakness, railed against the political system
that prompted up this fucking titan who beat it into
my damn skull that we don't beg for help from
the great, almighty, invisible thing called God. Have the goal.
While I was wiping his frankles to he was sick.
(24:21):
He was sick, and he was confused. And that, my
little friend, is why we do what we do to help. Yeah, sure, sure,
we want to help to help. That sounds noble, Yeah good,
We are very noble people. But there is nothing, nothing
more disgusting in this world, more hateful and insidious than frailty.
(24:48):
And I can smell it. I can smell it, just
like I can smell it on my father, on my
pathetic muling, praying father. And Jack, you want to know
what it smell? It is like, it smells like shit.
We don't do what we do simply because we love humanity.
(25:11):
It's because we detest the weakness in them. I can
trust you, right, Jack, That's why you're here to earn
my trust, of course. Yeah. And he's delivered this for me.
(25:32):
Why'd you He gave me an umvelove addressed to Abby Reynolds.
That was the last night any of us alms for
a while. The next morning he would disappear. M the
(26:00):
boy hears his father's voice. It's echoing from across the
snow covered hill buff lake, carried by the wind. Who
knows how long it had taken his father to register
his children's absence. When did it occur to the father
(26:24):
that he had not encountered his children since early that morning?
And the father's voice draws nearer, It's winded and filled
with terror, It calls out. The boy strains to turn
(26:51):
his head, and he could see his father stumbling towards
him in the snow. He'd been discovered at last, and
soon he surely would be rescued. Soon he would be
safe and warm in his father's strong arms, and his
(27:12):
father would hold him tighter than he had since he'd
been born, And the boy would look into his father's
weeping eyes, and he would see his father remembering, remembering
how precious the boy was to him, how deeply he
loved the boy. And that is the last thought the
(27:36):
boy has before before the ice break, before he slips
beneath the surface of the frozen leg and comes face
to face with the mirror image of himself, his dead brother.
(27:56):
Benjamin Tomorrow's Monsters starring John Boyega as Jack Locke, Darren
(28:27):
Chris as Max Fuller, Marley Shelton as Cass Berkeley, Clark
Gregg as Walter Fuller, saw and Guja as David Truesdale,
Nicholas Takoski as Finn Connolly, Claire Bronson as dr Abbie Reynolds,
David Chen as Michael Corbin, Suhila Eltar as Jenna, Victor
Rivera as Eddie Binder, Robert Pralgo as Agent Batty, Steve
(28:52):
Coulter as Senator Berkeley, wrote A Griffiths as Rainy Webb,
with additional performances by Helen Abel, Jason Williams, my Chel Anthony,
Robin Bloodworth, and Teresa Davis. Our first assistant director is
Michael Monty. Our second assistant director is Sarah Klein. Sound
and music by Ben Lovett. Additional sound design and editing
(29:13):
by Benjamin Belcolm, Justin Riboski and Mike Reagan. Casting by
Jessica Fox Thick Pen. Our executive producers are Scott Shelton,
Shelby Thomas, Alexander Williams, and Matthew Frederick. Written by Dan
Bush and Nicholas Takoski. Created by Dan Bush and Conald Byrne.
Directed by Dan Bush, Produced by both Flint dan Bush
(29:37):
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Tomorrow's Monsters as a production of My Heart Radio. Flynn
Picture Company, Psycopia Pictures and Upper Room Productions. Welcome to
Fast Troup, America's as fastest reach charge station. You have
made right, right choice with Fast Troup. January seven, Keystone, Nebraska,
(00:22):
almost midnight. I had to stop and recharge the car,
and I think I was gonna make it. I've been
on the road for over twenty four hours now, about
thirty hours still to go before I reached Arlington unless
they catch me first. The night after my first day
and next Corpus Max Fullest personal assistant, I tracked down
(00:42):
David Truesdale, one of the participants of the first phase
of human Trials, and didn't go well. Have you had
any more contact with the next quarter You've spoken to
Max Fuller since? Yeah? Just Benjamin's Benjamin, Mr Truch. Looking back,
(01:15):
that's when all the trouble started. I didn't know who
was on to me at the time when I started digging,
so he didn't go unnoticed. Dr Abby Reynolds had tipped
me off to Truesdale's whereabouts. She was next Corps physician.
Her job was to monitor and track the test subjects
during the shot I research similar behaviors, pacing, digging at
(01:37):
the bottoms of their cages, and attacking each other. I
am terminating this roundup test. The fact that she oversaw
faced one of the human trials despite something going horribly
wrong with the previous animal tests, and she must have
been instrumental in covering up. The only thing I knew
for sure is that she would crack. She wasn't a
(01:57):
crypto hold onto a sea Christ much longer. Her moral
compass wouldn't allow it. She was too good. I could
said a lot about person that way, and if anyone
could break her, it was me. I just needed to
find her. Let me gome a fast track already. Never today, okay, okay,
(02:19):
just hurry up. M oh damn, please let your charge? Christ?
What is this kind of one? She's gonna stand there?
Stay on board? Can I help here? May decided for
(02:44):
electric You know the gas pumps are on the other side.
Recharge complete, Jack, Let's go on, let's considering your side.
Let's let's go. Let's go resuming, Chris. Who was that
(03:21):
stark out here? I can see the dull glow of
some metropolis off in the distance. Highways are for getting
from A to B and back rows of what happens
in between. My father told me that once it was bullshit.
Of course, my father was capable of a massive amount
(03:42):
of bullshit. The truth is he was avoiding major highways
because he was on the run and there are less
facial recognition cameras on the back roads. My father, when
he passed away, he had nothing, no heirlooms, no family possessions.
He came from nothing and to nothing he returned. He
(04:05):
died alone with twenty five K in a sock drawer
my inheritance. That and the pile of video tapes filled
with footage of me as a boy. You think that's
what because I know that you thought I was going
to give your other hand. I switched it because he
(04:27):
thought I was going to do that trick every time.
Always watched the hun on. Man. If there's only one
thing you learned from your papa, it's how to read
people and to always watch the hunt abby, always watch
the hands of None of these have ever been digitized
(04:48):
by his old penis on the camera still worked. My
father didn't believe in digital No social media profiles, no
online accounts, no digital footprint at all, which seems impossible
these days. Ship it's almost magic. Him being or nobody
to him meant that he could be anybody, anyone he
needed to be, depending on the circumstances. That's what it
(05:08):
takes to be a professional. Comment. When I was ten,
he decided that it was time for me to learn
the family business, how to support a sucker and how
to pocket their money. Whether they're noble laureates or low
life hustlers or fathers cast long shadows. When you were born,
each of you, there was a scene in you, deep down,
(05:33):
and this was potential. This could grow into a billion
different things. This is doctor Walter Fuller, Max's father, from
a commencement speech at Stanford University. More sure when he's exactly,
but the doctor seems to be in the fourties dust
(05:53):
of silver. These temples, a man in his prime. Family
gave you alluring and powerful you needed to get here.
You have found and trained a passion long enough for
it to get you through one of the most challenging
periods in your life. And what you need to do
now is to forget it all. Forget all of it,
(06:16):
everything that led you to this moment. Let it go
because it isn't real anymore. It isn't real because it
no longer exists. It's in the past. The only thing
that does exist right now is right now, this present moment,
and this this, this is where the future begins. In
(06:37):
this moment, you are in the prime of your life
and on the edge of a new era of human history.
From this moment, anything is possible. You are the authors
of what happens next. You can predict the future by
inventing it. Mh predict the future by inventing him when
(07:03):
he did. Walter Fuller's contribution to the world of medicine
is immeasurable. The millions saved each year as a result
of that contribution, the noble prize he won as a
consequence Walter fullest work has been widely praised and documented
in history books. But Walter fullest personal life was jealously guarded.
(07:25):
You know, it's astonishing that a public figure like Walter
Fuller was able to keep details of his private life
secret in this day and age. I guess that's one
thing he had in common with my father. Even though
my father had no public identity at all. Like me,
Max's father was mostly absent from his life it's one
thing we have in common. Yet you know, they told
(07:48):
us to see the world very differently. My father taught
me to track patterns and be an observer, Trust no one,
and never take your eyes off the hands, because everything
in if it's a con and everyone is always on
the take. Max's father taught him to repress the past,
live only for the future, and that nothing else matters.
(08:12):
So we came from very different backgrounds. Max and I
we had did nothing common for me to be able
to earn his trust. He took a shine to me
because I made myself the protegee that he wanted, brilliant
and wounded someone like himself. I keep thinking about the
first time I saw it the other side of Max Fuller.
(08:36):
It was almost midnight on December, the night he disappeared.
The entire team was working over time preparing for TES,
the International Consumer Electronic Show. This was to be the
proving ground for Next Corps New Mind apps. When I
leaned into Max's office, I heard him talking to someone.
(08:58):
It was he, but when I opened the door, I
would not just stand me. There was no one else
in the room. Jack, No, No, it's fine. I was
actually just having a drink just Max, Would you like one?
(09:19):
I think so. I want to let you know that
across the table. But to see yes, innovation awards off
the yaquina. Oh that's excellent. Is there anything else for tonight?
I have a seen Jack? Please, I insist? Okay, sure,
how's your mother? Jack? I'm sorry forgiving me. You don't
(09:45):
have to answer that. I know it's personal. It's just
that I was thinking about her, About my mother. Yeah, yes,
it's not lost to me what you must be going through.
She isn't verbal anymore. It's really hard when they get
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to that point. There you go. Thanks. You know I
still call her, you know, doctors save my voice calmed her?
Which is you know? You know that that that makes sense.
Your mother is one of the last humans on earth
of the primal brain. You and I we grew up
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with smartphones. Because of that, our brains are wired completely differently.
The massive amount of screen time is forced completely different
neural connections. For us. Our ability to recognize faces and
voices is nowhere near to that of our parents. You know,
my biggest regret not spending more time with her, If
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that's sure? I mean, do any of us ever really
have enough? Time with the people we love. But no,
she always had the best advice. Yeah, any girl outdated.
My mother always knew exactly how long it would last.
When I listened to my mother, my life was better.
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She was wise. Now all that wisdom has gone. It's
just con Are you the only one taking care of her? Yeah?
Just me now, all alone with her here now. Yeah.
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I had had a brother, but he's gone. Huh. I
thought you said you didn't have any siblings. He was
a he was a soldier, a soldier. Huh. I'm sorry.
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I didn't know we had so much in common. M
my apologies. I really don't mean to be invasive. I've
been told I lack a certain social etiquette. It's difficult
for me to decipher what's appropriate when it comes to
personal matters. So you're so, what about your brother? What
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about him? You still miss him? Ah Um, I'm sorry, maxxive,
Now I'm being too forward. No, no, no, no, you're not.
It's okay, okay. And that's when it happened. My father
used to call it the shift. The moment of sucker
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makes the choice to trust you. For most people, to
shift happens right away. Well, that's if the coin is good.
I'm gonna be honest. Max Filler what no Stocker. I've
been working on shifting him for months. They just kept
studying me like a fucking spider. I never broke them.
And then it happened, right then Max's gaze transformed. He
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went from observing me too m to trust in me. No,
I don't miss him. It's not like that. What should like.
It's been over thirty years now, and there's still an
ache sometimes a little tightening in the chest, you know,
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But like anything, it's just sort of fulled up into
the rest of your life eventually. I guess you, of
all people would know that, all right, Jack, Oh, they
live on inside us, in our thoughts and our dreams.
What do you mean? What I mean is our thoughts
are shaped differently for having known them, and these thoughts
take form in our actions, and our actions eventually become
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cemented into habits. So we look at ourselves in the mirror.
You can see our brothers just reflected back. That was cheesy. Sorry,
it's poetic, actually, no, or maybe you know, maybe it's
more like what am I trying to say? We're haunted
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by them. Trauma is the Achilles heel. It can be
our saving grace, but it can also be our downfall.
It's a design flaw design for him. He was my
father's favorite, you know, my brother Benjamin, his favorite son.
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That my father would have never said that. I'm sure
that wasn't the case. I think he loved Ben's brashness.
I mean, kid was the first out of the womb.
He's the first to walk. Like I said, he was
a lot more like my mom. And when he died,
it was as if he took the last of her
with him. And so Dad threw himself into work full force.
He took all of the energy he would have taken
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into raising us and plowed into the future without me.
What do you do? What did I do? I went
to boarding schools. What I did when when I came
home from school. I didn't notice a change in him
because he was always sort of distant with me. He
didn't notice a change in himself because he was too
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focused on the work and too vain to admit to
himself that he was slipping. It was his assistant, Marie
who finally came to me. They could have stopped it,
but he was already so diminished. It was too late
for any of his drugs to really save him, and
they hadn't figured out yet how to reverse it. Marie
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had been too afraid to say anything. God, what I'm
getting at is there's a danger in surrounding yourself with
people who regard you too highly. Jack Hm, that's why
you were here. That wasn't why I was Damn. That
was three months into my time at Next Corporate, and
I'd spent most of that time when I was in
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photo of Max around as a perfect persige, digging into
his company's secrets, trying to take him down. And I
hadn't made much progress to that end until that night.
Something happened that changed everything. I needed to find Next
Corps Achilles Hill. I need to find Abbie Reynolds. And
now it was the night I finally cool a break.
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I needed to find Abbie Reynolds. And that was the
night I finally cool a break. I have this video
of my father of his final hours. Sometimes I watch
it to remind myself. It was the only time my
father told me that he was proud of me. It
was like a fleeting moment of clarity. Any time, I'll
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be right back. He was going for a few minutes,
Can I hurt it? Another voice? Just like before, But
there was someone else in the barthroom with Max. So
I stood up and slowly approached the barroom door so
they could cast some v in my hidden mic. What
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the hell? Who is that? No? H? I slipped back
into my seat. And when he came out, and it's
gonna be hard to explain. When he came back from
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the bar froom, something was different. He stood there studying me, smiling.
Now he had shifted to something new, something dark, His
eyes intense. He seemed almost wild. He had on the
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gone to some kind of transformation. Is everything okay with you?
I want you to see it? Wa just wait, wait
and watch hey that Yeah, it's me Dad. I need
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my glasses. I can't. I can't find it. Where am I?
Goddamn class? Here? The right here? That I got? Oh? Okay?
Then turned my hand, I got got hand. Okay, it's you. Yeah,
it's it's me. Okay, Ketto, Where are your baby? Ketto?
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Where have you been? Dinner was two hours ago? It
was two hours ago? Okay, okay, okay, no wait wait
wait that's not right. That's not right. God, damn it,
that's not right. I'm I'm sorry. I am not really
myself these days, these things get a little. It's okay,
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I get fuzzy. No, I know, bodies get old. You know,
it's it's criminal. Oh how are your studies? Have you?
Have you done your readings? Have you completed that? Sir? Yes, sir?
You have speak up son? Have you? Yes? Sir, yes, sir,
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I have good that's good. Good. No, that's yeah, that's
good for you, good for you. Have you taken your medicine? Dad?
Fran Scene said you're being difficult. What what did you say?
She said that? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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excuse me. I'm not being difficult. I'm not. That bitch
keeps coming into my goddamn house, into my room. She
comes out, and she tells me what I can do.
It's my goddamn she know, she just cannot tell me
what to do with my goddamn dad. Calm down, don't
she's not even here right now, your hands, Dad, I'm
trying to help you. Right off me. Get the funk
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off me. Dad. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No,
it's no, don't apologize. I'm I'm sorry to It's okay.
Just h I I've been I've been a little modeled lately.
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It's I think it's the work. It's just been too much.
I get it. It's it's look at you. Look at you.
You are a good boy. You have always been special,
and I am so sorry that I have never really
said it. But it's true. I have always known that
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you would do great things. As much as much as
I have hopefully accomplished, as hard as I've worked, and
as as far as I may have raised the bar,
I have got nothing on you, son. I've got nothing
on you. You are going to change the world in
ways I can't even imagine. Do you hear me? Yeah,
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it's true. Thank you so much, Dad, thank you, thank you.
It's true. Benjamin, what did you call me? Jesus? It's recent, Benny?
Would you turn up the thermostat said? Then he too
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is where I like it. I don't know why she
likes it so God damn Colt. He was so far
gone that he didn't know who's talking to The one
time he expressed pride in his son, Max, and I
thought it was a lucid moment. I believe, deep down,
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despite the years of guilt I felt from my part
of my brother's death and my fear that my father
despised me for killing his favorite son, that maybe he
was actually accepting of me, proud of me. He thought
I was Benjamin still alive, because because that was my
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father's fantasy after all, his secret wish that my brother
ben had lived and that I had been the one
who died that day in the ice. It was never
me he would be proud of. Do you know why
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it is that we do what we do so that
people do not to suffer? No, this video goes on.
I won't trouble you further with it, but in ten
minutes he ships himself in fift as I'm trying to
(23:36):
clean the ship off the legs and ass of a
nobel laureate, the single strongest man I've ever known, whose
work changed the entire course of modern medicine as we
know it. Do you know what he does? He starts
to pray our father, who weren't in heaven out of nowhere.
This lifelong committed atheist who felt nothing but sustained towards religion,
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who called it a weakness, railed against the political system
that prompted up this fucking titan who beat it into
my damn skull that we don't beg for help from
the great, almighty, invisible thing called God. Have the goal.
While I was wiping his frankles to he was sick.
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He was sick, and he was confused. And that, my
little friend, is why we do what we do to help. Yeah, sure, sure,
we want to help to help. That sounds noble, Yeah good,
We are very noble people. But there is nothing, nothing
more disgusting in this world, more hateful and insidious than frailty.
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And I can smell it. I can smell it, just
like I can smell it on my father, on my
pathetic muling, praying father. And Jack, you want to know
what it smell? It is like, it smells like shit.
We don't do what we do simply because we love humanity.
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It's because we detest the weakness in them. I can
trust you, right, Jack, That's why you're here to earn
my trust, of course. Yeah. And he's delivered this for me.
(25:32):
Why'd you He gave me an umvelove addressed to Abby Reynolds.
That was the last night any of us alms for
a while. The next morning he would disappear. M the
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boy hears his father's voice. It's echoing from across the
snow covered hill buff lake, carried by the wind. Who
knows how long it had taken his father to register
his children's absence. When did it occur to the father
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that he had not encountered his children since early that morning?
And the father's voice draws nearer, It's winded and filled
with terror, It calls out. The boy strains to turn
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his head, and he could see his father stumbling towards
him in the snow. He'd been discovered at last, and
soon he surely would be rescued. Soon he would be
safe and warm in his father's strong arms, and his
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father would hold him tighter than he had since he'd
been born, And the boy would look into his father's
weeping eyes, and he would see his father remembering, remembering
how precious the boy was to him, how deeply he
loved the boy. And that is the last thought the
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boy has before before the ice break, before he slips
beneath the surface of the frozen leg and comes face
to face with the mirror image of himself, his dead brother.
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David Chen as Michael Corbin, Suhila Eltar as Jenna, Victor
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