April 9, 2024 • 48 mins
Daniel chats with retired golfing phenom Michelle Wie about 3 irons and golf carts, the lack of broadcast coverage in professional female sports, and also the importance of prenups.
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
I would hate, like what I would hit a shot
in Korea for some reason, like they go and like
you would hear that? And I was like, oh, that
would just get under my skin so much.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Did people ever just yell wee oh that would have
been fun?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh yeah, Tashha.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
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then on the way home, there's a mud slide on
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I get a call from John here, the producer. I
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that we did earlier in the day, he's like, is
for not.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
You know, doing a podcast is so fun because you
have such a small group of people. Normally, like if
I'm on a television show and someone fucks up, it's
like who did it? And like fifteen people say it
was twenty other people. You know, you never get satisfaction.
But on a podcast, it's like, I'm like, who fucked up?
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It's Dylan. So then they're like, well, let's we're gonna
have to rerecord I'm like, God, I'm coming back right now.
Put my kids down to bed, just get in my car.
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Don't have enough electricity to get here, that's okay. Put
an eco mode not as fun, and here we are.
So now I'm rerecording and that's why I'm fuming. And
you say, well, well, get over it. You know that's
a tiny thing in the scheme of things. Oh really,
you don't think this could Butterfly effect into my kid
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not getting into college or worse, dying and me missing
it Like it could have been there. I could have
heard his last words, Way to go, Dylan, Way to go, Dylan,
you killed my son. I don't even like to joke
about that. Now you're saying, well, it could Butterfly effect
the other direction, and he could become one of the
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greatest inventors of our generation because of this one huge
fuck up. Let's get going. Hey, let's do this segment
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gotta be like anytime you're in like Kansas or Kentucky,
there's always like a dumb Oh we got a London
Kentucky m h. Anyway, he's from Toronto. He used to
watch Tosh point zero with his dad. His dad isn't
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around anymore, but Tyler likes to think he would enjoy
the podcast too. Well. I got news for you, Tyler.
There's a good chance he wouldn't like it, because what
I've found is this show is very hit and miss.
Some weeks a lot of people like it, and then
other weeks people are real home a fe oh eddie. Yes,
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you haven't even asked why I'm dressed like an idiot.
I mean, is it trying day already? I didn't want
to get into him. If you're in the middle of
some kind of a project, you thought I was. You
thought I was playing poker with the boys back of
the house. No, no, no, this is not my poker outfit.
Masters O the Master's Golf. This is my golf attire.
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Oh the Masters? Can we still call it the Masters?
It's it seems outdated. I think we should go with
uh the uh Primaries. I hear you got a video
for me oh I got a video golf video? Yep, Hey,
why don't you tee it up?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
All right?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Hey, all right, I've been in the biz. Crikey. Those
blokes down under sure do know how to have a
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write good time with their mates after a few grogs.
I don't even know if this video is Australian, could
be New Zealand. Oh man, New Zealand. They always get
the short end of the shaft. Did you notice that video?
Not a single black person or a woman in that
clubhouse either. Things just don't change. Do you like golf?
Do you watch it? Eddie happy Gilmore, Happy Gilmore? Yeah,
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I'm not gonna turn it if it's on. I grew
up on a public golf course. I lived on a
par five anyway. One day I took my dad's drive
route and I Happy Gilmour did like, took a running
start and swung and the head sailed off of it.
I just snapped. The head probably went sixty yards. And
I lied to my father. I told him I don't know,
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I just hit it weird and it snapped like. I
couldn't tell them that I was clowning around on the
golf course, because that's that's something you don't do. You
don't clown around on the golf course. But Adam Sander,
Adam Sandler, he had, he had infiltrated me. Did you
ever fess up to it? No? This was it, This
was a fessa. This is great. I was pretty proud
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of myself. Solid contact anyway, So you don't watch up.
I love golf, I don't actually love it. I find
it a bit time consuming and takes itself way too seriously.
And don't even get me started on how sexist the
sport is. But that's why I wanted to sit down
and interview my favorite former pro golfer, Enjoy four Pasha,
(07:43):
my guest today is a literal child prodigy. She's like
Mozart if Mozart was an Asian female who played golf
instead of piano, violin, horn, flute, harp, obo. Please welcome
Michelle Wee. That was in it. I did that now
the golf whisper voice. Oh got it?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
And do you play any instruments? Piano? Sucked at it? Okay,
you sucked, that's good. Yeah. You grew up in Hawaii
a wahuu. I did the worst of the islands. Agreed.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
No, absolutely not you serious, that's offensive?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
No are you?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Okay? Wait wait, I need to know, though, where did
you stay when you were in o Wahu?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well, I I dated a girl from for a long time,
so like, so I would always spend time there.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Okay, And I'm souch part of the island.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Though, I mean I had spent tons of time in
the north Shore stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Okay, yeah, I was scared you're gonna say you stayed
in Waikiki.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
No, no, no, I mean I get Honolulu fine, but
in general, the whole island.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It's great because you get the option to go out
get great food, great shopping, but you also can so
to the waterfalls and surfing and all that other stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Do you speak pigeon, Yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It comes out when I'm home. Like when I first
came to the mainland, people were like, what is she say?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Just talking story? Oh? Or are the stereotypes true about
how much pressure immigrant parents put on American kids to succeed?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
You know, I don't think it's the parents that put
the pressure. I think it's like the child puts the
pressure on themselves. Like I don't know for me, Like I'm.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Only talking for you. Yeah, yeah, there wasn't tons of
pressure on you?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
No, I mean I think they just wanted me to
experience a lot of things. They like literally put me
in everything right, like you know, put me in soccer, baseball, gymnastics, swimming,
ballet like you know, I was in everything. But that's
pressure too, I guess, yes, and no, I didn't feel
it that way. I wanted to be great like ever
since I was little, Like I put a lot of
pressure on myself, like I wanted to be a professional
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athlete since I could ever remember, Well.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I did too, But I didn't want to put the
work in.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And I am that my parents helped me to put
the work in. But I think you know I made
you No, I mean there are times yes made me
that made me go to Korean school. I didn't want
to go to Korea in school on Saturday?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
What's Korean school?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Like?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It's awful, It's really boring. You get to school on
like nine am on Saturday and you're there all day.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Your family's originally from South Korea. What made them decide
to move to America?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
My dad wanted to be a professor, so he came
got his PhD at U Penn and then got a
teaching job at Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Your mother golfed, your father didn't. Yeah, my mom taught.
My dad does he play now?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Not anymore. I think they're trying to get back into it.
I just got them into pickleball. I love pickleb I
know same. My mom's good. She's pretty ruthless. She slams everything.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Not gonna middle to slam. And if I'm just constantly dincing,
you just.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Wanted to say the word did get uh huh?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
It's so stupid. The terms are so stupid.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I know how tall your parents My dad six to two,
my mom's five seven, very tall.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
For for what for Koreans? Why did you go to
college anyway?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
After I really wanted to go to college. And plus,
like when I turned pro when I was sixteen, my
parents were like, you have to.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Go to college. So see that that might be the
requisite immigrant parent pressure that I was talking about.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, but it's also I think the reason why they
did it was for that to me to have a
normal life.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I mean, I was your normal life going great action,
that is the normal about your life.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
There were so many things that are normal in my life.
I mean I I mean I my parents had an
opportunity to take me to IMG Academy you know about
it in Florida. I mean they were like, oh, you're
not going to have a normal life there, and they
kept me. In my high school, I had normal friends.
For the most part.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I was pretty normal and then went to college.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
What was your backup school when you applied to Stanford?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
You c l a USC and I didn't even open
the envelope.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You serious?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Stanford was my dream.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
My dad didn't get in Stanford, so I wanted to
prove to him that I was smarter than.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Oh okay, I thought you were like going to rub
it in Stanford's face, like you you messed up with
my friend.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Oh no, no, I'm rubbing it in I still do
to this day.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
By the way, everyone talks about like you're the youngest,
you know whatever, youngest to qualify youngest with all that stuff.
You know, it would be great though, now because are
you do you say you're retired or no? Yeah? Oh yeah.
I have a problem with that too. Here's why I
have a problem with it, because like, just okay, just
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stop playing.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You don't have to say you're retired. What if there
was just like one tournament a year that you love
to play, and like, I'm sure you could qualify for
it if you wanted to, or at least try or
get an exemption whatever. Why not just be like, yeah,
and I don't feel like doing it this year, so
I'm not going to do it this year. Why does
it have to be a formal announcement of retirement in
any profession?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So for me, it's because everyone just kept asking me
when you're coming back, when you're coming back, when you're
coming back, and I just like I'm done, okay, and
they're like, oh but no really, So like I felt
like announcing it. People now believe me kind of like
leave me alone, don't ask me if I want to play.
But now they're asking me if I want to play
in a senior's tour, which is rude because I'm thirty.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Four years old. That's very rude.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Like, Okay, now I was the youngest to do all
this stuff. Now that are you playing at the seniors tour?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Well?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
No, so here's what you could be the youngest to
play the seniors.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
You're the youngest, all these titles for the youngest or whatever.
I think that would be amazing. Though, if you said
stayed retired for whatever, however long you went, and then
wait till you're like eighty five ninety and then try
to be the oldest so you can have both titles.
That would be amazing. My body would break in half. No,
you're fine. Medicine is going to be amazing. You know,
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you're probably healthy. I think there's no issue here.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Okay, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I never understand, like, like golf is a good when
tennis is the same word. It's like you're ranked third
in the world or you're you know, one hundred and fiftieth.
I think all of that stuff is like I would
just keep going forever. If I was like one hundred
and fiftieth in the world, but I used to be third,
I'd be like, yeah, but that's still amazing. I'm one
hundred and fiftieth out of something that millions of people do.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I don't know, when you play, you don't think of
it that way. When you're one hundred and fiftieth, it sucks.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Okay, that's insanity that there's only one hundred and forty
eight people better than you at something. Golf is so
pure in your leaderboard, just being who made the most money. Yeah,
I wish all sports were like that.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
But like, it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I mean, it's fun because it all comes down to
you and it's just a matter of how you play.
It's stressful, though, I mean because if you don't make
it past Friday, you make zero dollars and you're in
the negative.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You made you say you make zero dollars. But you know,
something tells me the Swoosh check doesn't care if you
made it past Friday. I think they care. Well, Ma,
they care, of course, but you don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I mean, I had it lucky, but yeah, it is stressful.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well sure, I know, Okay, fine, you're lucky, but you
earned it and you were sellable and it was it
was fun. There's a reason that Nike pays you. You want
to know why, because it works.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, people care more about what Kim Kardashian has to
say than our president.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Nobody cares what Kim has to say. We just want
to look at her butt. I do find her show fascinating.
It used to bother me when people would say about
Kim Kardashian or the Kardashian like, what do they do?
They don't do anything. It's like they film a show.
There's cameras in their face all day long, Like that'sh hard.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah yeah, I mean they are their machines.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
The makeup and the hair alone, Like sitting there, somebody
touches my face that long. Oh no, I don't. I
don't like it either. Would you do a reality show?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
No, I can't do cameras in my face.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
What if they're just like hidden throughout your house, that'd
be terrifying. Webcams remember back in the dial up day?
Did you ever log into one of those houses?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
What was that weird internet website where you can go
on and like you can see random people?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Is something Rolette?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Chat relate?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
That was just just chances to see penises. It's like
every every eighth person was a penis. Let's I forgot
about that. I was like, all right, put it anyway,
just click off as fast as you can. The guys
just sitting there danging it by the camera. That was
no good. Do you actually like golf?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I do? Like today? Yeah? Is it easier at thirteen
to block out the noise or thirty thirteen?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
And we had no Twitter, Instagram, Facebook? So when I
play and when I played in PJ Tour events, I
didn't have to post about it on social media, and like,
you know, see all that. You know, if you didn't
have the AOL dial up in Google, I mean, I
don't think Google is.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Even around love when you were Yeah, Google, you're still young.
I had dial up barely for a week.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Oh my god, I had to I had the floppy
disk wire thirty four.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, all right, do.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You know when Google started?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Do I know? How?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Do you know what the first year Google was born? No,
two thousand and two.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So yeah, here's my stance on golf. I've been around
the game my entire life. We've always had a home
on a golf course in Florida, and it was shoved
on me and I despised it. We're in Florida, Central Titusville,
near Kennedy Space Center.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
So do you see like the you see things go
off at Kennedy Space Center, Like that'd be cool.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah. I wasn't there for the Challenger, if that's your
next question.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
No, I'd be like, I don't know if there was
like test runs.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Or they launched lots of rockets and stuff like that.
He used to go out out for them every time
to watch them from school. They would let you outside,
but then after the one bad one, they were like,
maybe let's not have this conversation with kids. My dad
did the worst job of how to get a kid
into golf. He only let me have two clubs, a
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three iron and a putter right right, like a maniac,
like a child abuser.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
A three ron.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
He's like, He's like, if you can hit a three iron,
you can hit any club. This is this is what
this idiot did. Second thing he did, that's insane. You
never get a golf cart. What because you need to
think about your next shot as you're walking up to it.
That's not true. This is none of it. This is
what my dad did to me. And I'm like, guess what, Dad,
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I hate this game. I'm never going to play it.
Boom dead to me. You want to know what I
did on golf courses my whole life. Two things. One,
when it rained heavily, I would skimboard on the pedals
and get chased by the rangers. And then the second
thing I did was we would just hunt golf balls
and then sell them in our backyard instead of a
lemonade stand. Yeah, that makes sense. Those those are my
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only but anyway, so that golf has been around my life.
My family all plays. Everybody plays. I I don't our
kid is really necessary.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I think it brings in sort of like a team
element to it. I mean, I can't imagine carrying my
bag for four days.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
It seems. That's what I take from it. It was
like it's kind of laziness. It just yes.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I mean I would totally dig a golf card go
out by myself. But I think it.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I think it helped pace of play. It just makes
it go faster. I think it brings in a cool
element to the game.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Did you ever have a female caddy? Yeah? Always? I
don't know, no, I did.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I had some, I had two or three.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Did they complain a lot, like why don't you carry
it for a few holes? Yeah? Do any guys have
female caddies? Yeah they do. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
There was a very famous female caddy, Fanny Caddy for
Nick Faldo. He was number one in the world for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
She's a legend. Golf is widely regarded as sometimes sexist, racist, elitist,
all the ists. I agree. How much of that did
you experience?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
You know, Funny grew up in Hawaii. Like the racist part,
I didn't you know experience it at all because it's
mostly Asians in Hawaii. It was a culture shock when
I came to my first event. It was in North Carolina,
went to Florida, lived in Florida for a bit and
definitely experienced it there. But yeah, I mean, golf is
definitely perceived to be elitist. It definitely has that element
to it. But I think there's like a new wave
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of golf coming in that is really breaking all the stereotypes.
You know, I just joined the ownership team for Los
Angeles Golf Club. It's part of the new TGL League,
which is like a new simulator technology driven golf league.
You know, just not be part of a country club.
I mean, I grew up on Ammunia public golf course, Like,
I'm all about that. But yeah, there's it's definitely elitist.
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It's definitely can be all thes but I think golf
is trying to break away from it.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh the traveling, did you fly private? No? I play?
I play female sports. I know. But you're worth a
ton according to a celebrity networth. Is it over or
under your actual worth? I don't even know what they said.
I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what they said
without anybody knowing. Now, is it way over?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
It's pretty pretty good.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Interesting, interesting, don't look at my paper. You know. Let's
talk about equal pay. I was watching the US Open
and they were just bragging and bragging about how the
women's had the same prize money as the men for
fifty years. They were celebrating. But there was a few
people that's like, yes, but there was sponsorships that kind
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of made up the difference. So it wasn't like they
weren't interesting. They weren't truly like that cutting edge. Now
here's my thing with with who should get paid more?
And then you tell me why I'm wrong. I always
feel like, well, it's it's just based off of how
much you draw. Is that wrong? It's true?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I mean yeah, I mean I think with equal pay,
I think it comes down to how much women's games
are being broadcasted. People have to have the opportunity to
be able to watch women's sports. I mean, look at
that volleyball game where like ninety thousand people showed up
for a women's volleyball game. They like sold out entire
football stadium, you know, for golf, like let's say for
a PGA Torven they get like over one hundred cameras there,
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you know, following every group. They have shot link. They
can go to an app and see every single player
on our tour, Like we have ten cameras maybe for
the broadcast, right, you know, like the rounds seem longer,
players seems slower. You're not cutting the people, obviously, Like
when you watch the Difference, you're going to watch the
men over the women a lot of times because of
how it's made, the production value, it's so different. So
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then people are like, well, people don't watch women's sports,
so you guys don't get paid as much. Was like, well,
it's not given the same opportunity, Like you're not having
jim nantz call women's golf.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
People will watch jim Nance. I mean he's great, but
still I've heard the stories.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
If if he commentates on women's golf, people would watch.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
That's fair, you know, and like what you're what you're
saying is you just need men to talk about women
and then ratings and money will go up. I'm teasing.
Obviously they're you're such a great point because I actually
watch all the majors because of how visually beautiful it is.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Exactly like we don't get any of that, Like our
announcers aren't able to talk about any stats that we
have because we don't have statistics. We just got strokes gained,
which you'll have no idea what that is, and I
don't have enough time to explain it because.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I barely know what it is.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
But you we write the caddies write it down physically
on a paper and then hand that in. Whereas you know,
on the men they have shot link, they have every
single information stats and that goes hand in hand with
sports bettings. That's a law of the draw nowadays, you
know we don't have that capability yet.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Would you want to be like a commentator or are
you I should I shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
No. I tried it, but you have to travel way
too much and I'm just not over traveling.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yes, that's my thing too. I would love to help
the surfing you know, professional surfing circer and be like
a commentator on there, but I like, I'm not going
to these locations you commentate for golf. I don't want
to do that either. Golf takes himself way too seriously
and golf doesn't need my help, like that's their problem.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
No, I think we need we need comedians.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I've been like, remember that time a Kevin hart and
Snoop Dogg commentator for the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I think we knew that for golf. Well, I agree.
I think if you have Kevin Harten's Noop Dogged Daniel Tosh,
I mean, they would really be nervous because I would
immediately like, you know, on Sunday at a big moment,
is now a good time for us to talk about
abortion and how important it is for women to have
the right to choose? Can you imagine? No? I can't,
(24:21):
but I would. I would think that would be fun.
Do I want to jump into my live questions or no? Sure,
I don't even know if I don't know what live
is not really, but here here's how. Here's how I
know enough when you had to pick a team or
picks me to root for Tiger Woods or Phil Mickelson
(24:41):
just as a casual fan of just hated Phil Mickelson.
So that's how I start how easy it is for
me to pick aside. Then this is how much I
need to know about Live. Oh Saudi Arabia. Oh they've
got a bad tracker with gay people. I'm out. If
all I need is one person to tell me into
Saudi Arabia is really good to gay people. Then I
(25:04):
would be like, oh, okay, there's an argument I need
to learn more, but I don't need to learn more.
I'm like, ah, it's not for me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I mean I think, you know, guys are getting paid
so much, so I understand, you know their mindset.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I mean they were getting generational wealth or did Phil
Mickelson need generational wealth?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I mean, I just well, for New Bras, I know,
all right, but I mean my personal take, I mean
I would never but I can sympathize and understand like
my colleague's decisions. But I think the thing in general is,
you know, I think, especially when it comes to women,
it complicates things a whole lot more.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Oh yeah, here's like, this isn't even an issue. I
know where I would stand on this. When I was
a young stand up comedian and I was struggling, and
I didn't really struggle, let's be clear, but I wasn't.
I could pay my rent here in La in my
studio apartment. Life was good. I was a comedian. I
didn't have to work a real job. I would have
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friends like you got to go to Australia. We're making
a killing down there, and I was like, I don't
fucking want to fly all the way to Australia to
make more money. I go, I'd rather I'd rather be
less popular here, like you got guys, and I remember
there's a crew comics. I know whatever Jim Gaffick. Do
(26:22):
you know what Jim gaffickin is? He's a funny comedian.
He doesn't. He once told me we were on the
phone and he's like, he's like, why do I want
to go overseas and do my jokes in front of
people that don't laugh as hard? And I was like, Oh,
that's really funny. It's just so simple. What's the most
annoying thing someone has yelled after you? At tea? Off?
H Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
There was a lot I would hate, like when I
would hit a shot in Korea for some reason, like
they go and like you would hear that, and I
was like, Oh, that would just get under my skin
so much, and you know, you hear people be like
oh I could have done a better than that.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Oh no, I just thought. I that I understand, But like,
what about just the dumb people that always have to
yell some line from a movie or something like that,
like mash potato.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
There's mashed potatoes.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Did people ever just yell we oh? That would have
been fun? Yeah, oh yeah all the time. That's what
I like.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And it just breaks me back.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
To you didn't like that? No, I meant for hitting
a shot though with the ball flight. Yeah, but then
like good, yeah, what they do an elementary We's.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
A really hard last name to grow up with.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Oh, just saying Tosh, it's pretty awesome if you're Jamaican.
I don't know if you know Peter Tosh. He was
in Bob Marley's band. Okay, anyway, he was killed.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Tosh is easier than we.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I got. Everything was related, and then I got gay
innumendos because I was I wasn't as tough as some
of the other kids, so I it was more mainly
in Florida too. It's just funny that you said that's
when you're yeah, hatred of people started. He didn't say that.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I implied it, yeah, but I got we we all
the iterations of Wes.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
What's your home track? These days? Is that funny? Funny?
It is obvious when somebody doesn't know what they're saying.
Tries to talk golf Plingo. You were so confident with it.
I tried to, but then you laughed, and then I
was like, I better not say it.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I flied ol Cab, which even if I say this,
you're gonna be like, you're gonna act like you're like, yeah,
we're el Cab Tarzan good.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah. Well, I don't know anything about it. What's a
cost to play golf? What's what's a what's around of golf? Play?
Can you can't private course? What's a called a membership?
There for a year cost? I have no idea. That's
what I like to hear. Steph Curry showed nice shot
where it was you guys recreate iconic golf shots? Which
(28:54):
one did you do? We did all them? Oh? Are
you on every episode of it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
We filmed it all in one day.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I want to be on that show. It's I have
three I want to do. No, No, I got a
different famous golf shot. Which one? I want to do
Elands through the I want to do Elands through the
driver's side window. Did anyone do that shot yet? That's yours?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
That'd be your episode.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Oh yeah, that's yours. That's what I want. So if
you can talk to anybody over there, let them know
that I'm interested. I always give everybody that comes on
the show a gift. I don't buy them something. I
just take something from my house and give it to
them because I don't want stuff in my house. Are
you hard to shop for?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I'm not a great gift giver.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
You're not a great gift giver. But what a gift receiver?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I don't I'm not a gift to me. That's not
the way I show love. I guess, so like I'm
not like if someone doesn't give me a gift, I
don't love you no, but like you know, like I
just like when someone gives me, I'm like, oh, thank you,
but like it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Like uh huh. So my manager, I only have had
women run my career, my entire career, my manager, my agent.
They know I like sweets.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Oh I love sweets?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Well, right, so they give me candy. Am I gonna
give you a candy? Don't guess the gift and you
ruin it? Something like that. So they got me a
membership to like a Cookie of a month club. But
my wife is just furious. She's like, you manager, you
an agent. All they do is they buy you junk
food and they're gonna kill you. So this morning when
it came, she goes, my wife, just this is what
(30:32):
my wife's screw. Give it to Michelle Wie. That's what
that's what I heard this morning. Get that, Get that
fucking box out of here, Give it to Michelle Wie.
And I'm like, this is and I just love it.
I was like, this is the world I live in.
Oh yes, look it even comes in a cute bag
every month.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
That's cute.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So be kind spread joy. Oh and so yeah, anyway,
if you regifted, that's fine, but there's just a box
of cookies for you.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Really haven't opened it at all.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
No, no, don't even do it. Keep it rap nice
the case you want to regift it, I'm going to
eat it. You're not going to eat all of those
You'll die.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Like how many are there in here?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I don't know, Probably it doesn't but they're so big
and sick. I don't care. What are you hear butchering?
Oh thanks, I'm not not gonna take it. And you
know who's gonna be furious when she watches this is
my wife. She'll be like, are you out of your mind?
(31:28):
I told you not to eat anymore.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
That's a lot of cookies.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
First question, I ask all my guests, do you believe
in ghosts? Yes?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Okay, yeah? Do you know I believe in Yeah? Why
not because I.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Know why you believe in ghosts because you live in
Hawaii where all of you guys are batshit crazy. Do
you consider Hawaiians Asian? No? Pacific islander, Pacific islander, but
you don't consider Pacific islanders Asian?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
No, I think it's no things. I mean Asian is
the content.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I know, but there's some of those. Now I wasn't sure,
I'll be honest. Is that obvious? Was that an obvious question?
I should have donely?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Is obvious because they do group them together during like
API month.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
When an athlete's performed a lot of times they'll say, uh,
their country, Like they'll say America or do they say Usa?
Probably say USA, But if they're from Hawaii, they'll give
Hawaii separate. Really, I know they do it in surfing there,
I say Hawaiian versus like USA if you're from California. Interesting,
I'm always like, huh huh do you surf? No?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I watched Blue Crush as a kid, and I was terrified.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Oh yeah, well that movie's kind of that's a great
meal bee though.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It's not easy to learn how to surf in Hawaii,
Like you know, there's a lot of reef.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I know, but then there's waikiki if you want.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
To I know, but then I've My friend got hit
in the face by a board.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
People get hit with golf balls all the time.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Have you ever gotten a stinger? Yeah? Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I was literally standing in front of a person and
he shanked it so hard it went perpendicular and hit
me in the sham.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Was that a professional?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
No, it was like a pro.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
And we do these things every week where we play
with four amateurs and they're usually pretty bad.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
You know, my nephew, Mickey de Morett, he qualified in
the US Open a coup four years ago. That's amazing.
Yeah yeah, and his dad was the caddy, my brother
in law, and his dad pointed at a ball. I
told him that was his ball, and it wasn't. His
ball cost him three strokes and a few positions on
the leader board.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Oh no, that's not good.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I know. We don't let him live it down. So
he hasn't really, he hasn't found his groovy has all
those Monday qualifiers.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Okay, I blame It's a tough life.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
It's a tough life. I told him. It's not a
tough life. It's a very tough life. I tell him.
I'm like, just you won. I just it's kind of
back to my one hundred and fiftieth of the one,
like you won. You're not. You graduate from college, you
travel around the country in Canada, and you do these
Monday qualifiers and it's like you're twenty I don't know,
holot he's twenty five years old or something. Who cares?
(33:55):
You're not married, You have no bills.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Time to do it.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So much better and working.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
It's also true, but it's a grind.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I mean, it's the right grind. I'm wiener cousins with
a few pro golfers. Really, is that what it's called
wiener cousins when you when you've dated somebody that now
dates a golfer.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Is that called brothers?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
No, first, so we don't use that term anymore. I
don't think. We don't say eskimo anymore. No, I mean,
unless we're right, we say inuits.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
But in brothers. Sorry, no, it doesn't actually cancel myself
on No.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You can't get canceled on this show, but I mean
you could. You're thinking of something completely different.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Well, she's right, Yeah, I'm completely right. There's two terms
like cousins wiener. Cousins is way better, way better. To
be honest with you, I got embarrassed just in a
split second. I thought I had confused docking, which.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Is not No dockings different dockings different. Now I don't
even want to get into it. Unless you want me
to explain it to you, then I will. But I
don't want to. Thank you. Fine, I'll tell it to you.
It's foreskin. I never mind.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I don't want to have you ever thought about how
your show would be perceived if you did it?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Now, I think it'd be I'd be a huge hit.
What are you implying?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I was like, thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I was like, you know, you watch Chapelle your show,
and it's like, can you imagine?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I don't. I don't think. I always feel like, even
if you hold it up to a microscope, I side
on the right side of most issues. Even if it's like, oh,
that's really tone in lines. At least that's about I
try to justify it in my head. All right, I'm
gonna get back to you. Do you get drug tested?
I have it all the time.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Well not anymore for what everything. They're all banned literally everything,
Like you take the wrong cough medicine and.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
You're screwed, so you can't like hang out with rappers
and no, the Purple Ray, that's that's horrible. Did you
ever fail a drug test in your life?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
No, I would like dream about failing that.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Like, you know, there's a lot of times like you
take stuff for a cold or whatnot, like people, you know,
doctors prescribe you antibiotic like you don't like of.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Course, no one looks yeah, and then it's happened.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
It's happened recently where a guy took an over the
counter a cough medicine in like an Asian country and muse,
you know, like you go over and you get sick,
they give you something. The doctors you know, you don't
speak their language, and then all of a sudden, it's just.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Like that's why you take Korean on Saturdays exact, so
you don't get popped. I know, I never understand the
drug testings. I just ugh. I used to always say
I had a joke that you say, I want the
greatest athletes that science can create. Let's dope them all.
So create that league. Yes, thank you. That fuck live
(36:49):
in their dirty money. I want a league of just steroids.
I don't whatever. Well, we'll have some doctors that oversee
to make sure we're doing it in a healthy manner.
But let's go ahead. This is juice. See what happens.
Could you play around a golf of somebody's screaming in
your backstroke? Sure you could. Yeah, that's I'm gonna do
(37:10):
that my league. Two things, you can scream in people's
backstroke if it's funny, and if they're doped up, and
you're allowed to do steroids, and and if you're to
get in, you have to you have to be pro
choice to watch the event.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
What does that get crypt in with big doped in?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
No, no, no dope is the athletes. The I'm saying
that the patrons. The patrons have to be pro choice.
This is a very this is a small league. It's
a very niche. It's very niche. You're married to Johnny West,
Jerry West's son. Now. Jerry West recently was real up
(37:50):
in arms about how he was portrayed on the show
and guess what this is who I am? And I
don't even know the name of the show, Playing Time,
Winning Time, Winning Winning Time, Sorry, playing Time. That would
be my version where I just wanted to get in
the game. Coach. He got upset. He got upset by
how he was portrayed.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Y'all were upset.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I mean it wasn't even we all mean a family. Yeah,
the family was upset.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
So you guys hate watched it or something. I mean.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Some members of the family did, just to keep track
the lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Going, you know, oh okay, and it was that serious geez.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I mean, yeah, I was portrayed as a drunk, portrayed
as a rage aholic.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Was it for comedic effect? I think it was for
dramatic effect?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
But you know, it's just if you're going to do that,
just use another name, like, you know, because people are
watching that actually believing that's who you are. You know,
and it's not fair well.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I mean, in fairness, I know very much who he
is and this didn't even pop on my radar. Do
you call Jerry West dad?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
No, you know, dad?
Speaker 1 (38:51):
You call your in law's mom and dad. I do
because I think it's funny and also because my wife's
a lot younger than me, and they're not that much
older than me, So I think it's funny to call
him daddy and mommy.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
The whole thanks I would love to go to Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
You're married to somebody very famous in sports, you know,
the sports family, basketball family, and your six feet tall?
Is your daughter already? What percentile in her height is
she ninety fifth? Is she? Yeah? Are you going to
pressure your kid to play golf or rebuild the Lakers dynasty? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
You know, it's funny, Like I always like think, now,
like what's the right amount of push do you want
to motivate them to like have a dream and whatnot?
And I think my my my strategy right now is
just to have her try everything and see what she likes.
And it's funny because you know, obviously I played and
then brought it on tour, but when she was a
baby baby, but then I hosted an LPJ tournament. Now
(39:50):
she came for the whole week, She saw me play
at pebble from my last tournament and then now she
like is obsessed with golf. So it's funny, it's funny
how that works. She loves she was really into So
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
How much screen time do you let her have every day?
Not a lot.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
But also I'm not like super strict with it.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Okay, I'm just saying golf is so fucking long.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, I think twelve holes is the right amount of golf.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
That's that's my issue with golf too. If I wanted
to get into it. Who's got four and a half hours?
Speaker 3 (40:18):
No one, And that's just rude to your partner who's
launching is.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Is your husband wealthy too? You the breadwinner? Do you
got you? You don't have a scoreboard up in the
house leader board? Yes, the weekly all weekly? Oh man,
I really put the pressure on you. You guys got a prenup?
We actually do.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, but it was just basically saying that everything's gonna
be split in house.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I don't know why we put Oh no, wait now,
our prenup is rock solid. I wanted to my wife's
vetoed this. I wanted to get it leather bound and
put as a coffee table book. Oh, just because I
thought when guests come over to like, if they saw it,
they be are you guys insane? Is that really? I'm like, yeah, yea,
it's our preop, go ahead, page through it. How long
(41:03):
was your pren hunt? It's long, her lawyer told her,
I have to let you know I cannot, in good
faith recommend that you sign this.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, well, how close to the wedding did you sign it?
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I mean twenty four hours, no, thirty minutes before. I think,
I think, well, well before, but now we're almost past
the point where it matters in California. We've been together
too long. I know they're going to get They're going.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
To get me, they're going to get you. They would
get everyone.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
But hopefully she gets Like now she's kind of starting to,
you know, get motivated. Motivated. It wasn't the right way.
She works hard, just just don't get paid as well,
and that's got to change. You keep your finances separate
from your husband. No, we do it together. I don't
(41:54):
like that at all. Starting I'm starting to worry about things.
I'm going to page through that prenup years fifty to fifty,
I don't know. Michelle, thank you very much for taking
time out to come listen to my nonsense. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
There were some interesting segues in there, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
I'm not very good at this. Pasha well, Carl, that
does it. I want to thank Michelle Wee for being
on the show. She's a incredible athlete, great mom, and
a fun guest. And I also like that she explained
(42:30):
something to me about why watching female golf wasn't as entertaining,
and it just made sense, Like the whole thing. It
just clicked in my head. I'm like, that's I never
looked at it from that perspective, having all the better cameras,
all that stuff. It adds up. That's why I view
female tennis the same as male tennis, because they're they're
(42:52):
getting the same treatment getting You're getting the same product
when you watch it on television, and it's not fair.
And in the other sports, ah, it makes sense. You
put your head down. It's a late night. Some plugs. Oh,
you know who wanted me to plug? They're not going
to spend any money. But Todd Glass he had a
(43:15):
new project that he's doing. He wanted to plug it,
and I said, I don't have no interest, but I'll
let him. I'll call him and if he answers, he
can plug it himself. This will be the shortest conversation
that I've ever had with Todd Hey Todd. Yeah, it's
comedian Daniel Tosh. Yeah. Hey, I hear you have a
(43:36):
new project in New York City, and I wanted to
give you thirty seconds of free airtime to plug whatever
you need. I've been doing this.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Show for a long time, in touring with it, and
now i'd like to do New York run. It's not
only a stand up show, but it's you know, it's
what happens in the street before the door's open. There's
someone playing outside. After the show, there's an ice cream truck.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
It's a real experience and you need money? Yes, how much?
How much? Can I just write one check for the
whole thing? What do I need to cut?
Speaker 4 (44:08):
I'm always embarrassed to tell you because we're looking for
about one fifteen.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I'll give you one hundred and fifty dollars Todd. Yeah, no,
Old Daniels sleep, Thank you, goodbye, Todd. I love you.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
You're not playing this though, are you?
Speaker 1 (44:28):
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for toddlers. The Goat premieres May ninth on Prime Video.
I got new tour dates. Fresno selling like hotcakes if
you had hotcakes the day before and You're like, Eh,
(44:51):
I don't know if I can do any more hotcakes.
Let's go Fresno, buy more tickets. Uh whatever, come see me,
you stand up. I'm so much better live than I
am in this form anything else. Oh, my son his
bedtime stories that were recorded when he was three years old,
(45:12):
got a new one. See you next week.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
Once a pine a pine. There was a poky pine,
but they were not just any kind of poky pine.
This was a mean poky pine. But all the pine
wanted to do. They were so mean because they did
(45:35):
all they got was hit. They did, didn't needn't did
to do anything every time they got lapped, and all
were to post in that hot bye. They wasn't just
any kind of poky pine. They were a big big
sack suzz sauce pokey pokey pie.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Byek.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
Then somebody said, hey, back there and me, and that's
why that's what he was. He wasn't a poky pine.
He was here muscl He wasn't a poky pine one
of those other ones that are similar with the poky pie.
(46:21):
Buddy a hedgehog, and there was a head trag. Then
the headshot called chat, hey, are you a poky pine,
and and the poky line said, yes, I'm a pooky
pine and what is your name? And then and the
poky's pine said, my name is pook behind name and
(46:49):
I'm named by Henry and and and Henry said.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
To the put to the.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
What had Troy, what's your name? And he said he
was his name was so way that I don't remember.
And then he said my name is Seattle and see
and the poe and the pokey side said what and
(47:24):
he the pogese mine said that about the name. Okay,
my name is pine and and he totally make up
any names. But then something happened Wayne and poll we
the old man is so ween, that's who came.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
What came.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
Entruments and they were saying it's way and the poony
o man, he's on he in the bell. He bumped
his head and twidding it up in the moning that
what they were singing. And one person said, come to
the doctor. And that's what they told on when they
(48:10):
when they got into the doctor. I'll tell you what
they told on when they got into the doctor. I'll
tell you doctor the doctor did me the news had
a bad case and loving you. They that's what they
told on.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Is that it.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
Nope, this is a very lunch soul. This is a
soyer thoughts all the way until it the moning they
was telling the so it is then a bed in here.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Okay, finish it up the end
Hey guys, just a quick reminder to please rate this show.
It's the least you can do for all the hard
work that I do. You just have to rate the show.
I don't even know who you are. Thank you. What's
the most annoying thing someone has yelled after you? At
tea off?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I would hate, like what I would hit a shot
in Korea for some reason, like they go and like
you would hear that? And I was like, oh, that
would just get under my skin so much.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Did people ever just yell wee oh that would have
been fun?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh yeah, Tashha.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Tosh show. Good evening everyone. I'm your host, Daniel Tosh. Eddie, Daniel,
guess what kind of mood I'm in? Good mood for
you make a real guess, Eddie, bad mood? Fuming? Fuming?
(01:00):
Do you mean? Why am I fuming? I'll tell you why, Eddie,
because I'm not supposed to be here and I know
people love to hear sexy rich men complain. So here
goes Okay, I shoot this in the afternoon. Okay, and
(01:22):
then on the way home, there's a mud slide on
the PCH Highway, traffic down to one lane, both directions
gridlocked for miles. I got to get home. I need
to see my family, just sitting there falling asleep at
the wheel, not trusting the self driving mechanism. Hey, I
(01:46):
get a few minutes in here and there, I get home.
I get a call from John here, the producer. I
don't answer. That's forty five minutes. I'll never fucking get
back if I answer. I let that go to voicebow.
Then an immediate text, Hey, I just want to go
over some audio issues. Oh fuck, here we go. Time
(02:10):
to call him back. Sure as shit. All the work
that we did earlier in the day, he's like, is
for not.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
You know, doing a podcast is so fun because you
have such a small group of people. Normally, like if
I'm on a television show and someone fucks up, it's
like who did it? And like fifteen people say it
was twenty other people. You know, you never get satisfaction.
But on a podcast, it's like, I'm like, who fucked up?
(02:47):
And he's like, Dylan, It's just we just we just
know right away it's fucking Dylan's fault. It's clear Dylan.
It's Dylan. So then they're like, well, let's we're gonna
have to rerecord I'm like, God, I'm coming back right now.
Put my kids down to bed, just get in my car.
(03:10):
Don't have enough electricity to get here, that's okay. Put
an eco mode not as fun, and here we are.
So now I'm rerecording and that's why I'm fuming. And
you say, well, well, get over it. You know that's
a tiny thing in the scheme of things. Oh really,
you don't think this could Butterfly effect into my kid
(03:32):
not getting into college or worse, dying and me missing
it Like it could have been there. I could have
heard his last words, Way to go, Dylan, Way to go, Dylan,
you killed my son. I don't even like to joke
about that. Now you're saying, well, it could Butterfly effect
the other direction, and he could become one of the
(03:53):
greatest inventors of our generation because of this one huge
fuck up. Let's get going. Hey, let's do this segment
Hello from Tosh Show. That's where I single out a
subscriber and give him a personal Hello. This one is
(04:16):
from Tyler. He's listening in Toronto. It doesn't say Toronto, Canada.
I don't know other other Toronto's. There's gotta be there's
gotta be like anytime you're in like Kansas or Kentucky,
there's always like a dumb Oh we got a London
Kentucky m h. Anyway, he's from Toronto. He used to
watch Tosh point zero with his dad. His dad isn't
(04:38):
around anymore, but Tyler likes to think he would enjoy
the podcast too. Well. I got news for you, Tyler.
There's a good chance he wouldn't like it, because what
I've found is this show is very hit and miss.
Some weeks a lot of people like it, and then
other weeks people are real home a fe oh eddie. Yes,
(05:05):
you haven't even asked why I'm dressed like an idiot.
I mean, is it trying day already? I didn't want
to get into him. If you're in the middle of
some kind of a project, you thought I was. You
thought I was playing poker with the boys back of
the house. No, no, no, this is not my poker outfit.
Masters O the Master's Golf. This is my golf attire.
(05:26):
Oh the Masters? Can we still call it the Masters?
It's it seems outdated. I think we should go with
uh the uh Primaries. I hear you got a video
for me oh I got a video golf video? Yep, Hey,
why don't you tee it up?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
All right?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Hey, all right, I've been in the biz. Crikey. Those
blokes down under sure do know how to have a
(06:06):
write good time with their mates after a few grogs.
I don't even know if this video is Australian, could
be New Zealand. Oh man, New Zealand. They always get
the short end of the shaft. Did you notice that video?
Not a single black person or a woman in that
clubhouse either. Things just don't change. Do you like golf?
Do you watch it? Eddie happy Gilmore, Happy Gilmore? Yeah,
(06:30):
I'm not gonna turn it if it's on. I grew
up on a public golf course. I lived on a
par five anyway. One day I took my dad's drive
route and I Happy Gilmour did like, took a running
start and swung and the head sailed off of it.
I just snapped. The head probably went sixty yards. And
I lied to my father. I told him I don't know,
(06:52):
I just hit it weird and it snapped like. I
couldn't tell them that I was clowning around on the
golf course, because that's that's something you don't do. You
don't clown around on the golf course. But Adam Sander,
Adam Sandler, he had, he had infiltrated me. Did you
ever fess up to it? No? This was it, This
was a fessa. This is great. I was pretty proud
(07:15):
of myself. Solid contact anyway, So you don't watch up.
I love golf, I don't actually love it. I find
it a bit time consuming and takes itself way too seriously.
And don't even get me started on how sexist the
sport is. But that's why I wanted to sit down
and interview my favorite former pro golfer, Enjoy four Pasha,
(07:43):
my guest today is a literal child prodigy. She's like
Mozart if Mozart was an Asian female who played golf
instead of piano, violin, horn, flute, harp, obo. Please welcome
Michelle Wee. That was in it. I did that now
the golf whisper voice. Oh got it?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
And do you play any instruments? Piano? Sucked at it? Okay,
you sucked, that's good. Yeah. You grew up in Hawaii
a wahuu. I did the worst of the islands. Agreed.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
No, absolutely not you serious, that's offensive?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
No are you?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Okay? Wait wait, I need to know, though, where did
you stay when you were in o Wahu?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well, I I dated a girl from for a long time,
so like, so I would always spend time there.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Okay, And I'm souch part of the island.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Though, I mean I had spent tons of time in
the north Shore stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Okay, yeah, I was scared you're gonna say you stayed
in Waikiki.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
No, no, no, I mean I get Honolulu fine, but
in general, the whole island.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It's great because you get the option to go out
get great food, great shopping, but you also can so
to the waterfalls and surfing and all that other stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Do you speak pigeon, Yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It comes out when I'm home. Like when I first
came to the mainland, people were like, what is she say?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Just talking story? Oh? Or are the stereotypes true about
how much pressure immigrant parents put on American kids to succeed?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
You know, I don't think it's the parents that put
the pressure. I think it's like the child puts the
pressure on themselves. Like I don't know for me, Like I'm.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Only talking for you. Yeah, yeah, there wasn't tons of
pressure on you?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
No, I mean I think they just wanted me to
experience a lot of things. They like literally put me
in everything right, like you know, put me in soccer, baseball, gymnastics, swimming,
ballet like you know, I was in everything. But that's
pressure too, I guess, yes, and no, I didn't feel
it that way. I wanted to be great like ever
since I was little, Like I put a lot of
pressure on myself, like I wanted to be a professional
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athlete since I could ever remember, Well.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I did too, But I didn't want to put the
work in.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And I am that my parents helped me to put
the work in. But I think you know I made
you No, I mean there are times yes made me
that made me go to Korean school. I didn't want
to go to Korea in school on Saturday?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
What's Korean school?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Like?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It's awful, It's really boring. You get to school on
like nine am on Saturday and you're there all day.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Your family's originally from South Korea. What made them decide
to move to America?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
My dad wanted to be a professor, so he came
got his PhD at U Penn and then got a
teaching job at Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Your mother golfed, your father didn't. Yeah, my mom taught.
My dad does he play now?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Not anymore. I think they're trying to get back into it.
I just got them into pickleball. I love pickleb I
know same. My mom's good. She's pretty ruthless. She slams everything.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Not gonna middle to slam. And if I'm just constantly dincing,
you just.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Wanted to say the word did get uh huh?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
It's so stupid. The terms are so stupid.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I know how tall your parents My dad six to two,
my mom's five seven, very tall.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
For for what for Koreans? Why did you go to
college anyway?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
After I really wanted to go to college. And plus,
like when I turned pro when I was sixteen, my
parents were like, you have to.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Go to college. So see that that might be the
requisite immigrant parent pressure that I was talking about.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, but it's also I think the reason why they
did it was for that to me to have a
normal life.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I mean, I was your normal life going great action,
that is the normal about your life.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
There were so many things that are normal in my life.
I mean I I mean I my parents had an
opportunity to take me to IMG Academy you know about
it in Florida. I mean they were like, oh, you're
not going to have a normal life there, and they
kept me. In my high school, I had normal friends.
For the most part.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I was pretty normal and then went to college.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
What was your backup school when you applied to Stanford?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
You c l a USC and I didn't even open
the envelope.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You serious?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Stanford was my dream.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
My dad didn't get in Stanford, so I wanted to
prove to him that I was smarter than.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Oh okay, I thought you were like going to rub
it in Stanford's face, like you you messed up with
my friend.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Oh no, no, I'm rubbing it in I still do
to this day.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
By the way, everyone talks about like you're the youngest,
you know whatever, youngest to qualify youngest with all that stuff.
You know, it would be great though, now because are
you do you say you're retired or no? Yeah? Oh yeah.
I have a problem with that too. Here's why I
have a problem with it, because like, just okay, just
(12:20):
stop playing.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You don't have to say you're retired. What if there
was just like one tournament a year that you love
to play, and like, I'm sure you could qualify for
it if you wanted to, or at least try or
get an exemption whatever. Why not just be like, yeah,
and I don't feel like doing it this year, so
I'm not going to do it this year. Why does
it have to be a formal announcement of retirement in
any profession?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So for me, it's because everyone just kept asking me
when you're coming back, when you're coming back, when you're
coming back, and I just like I'm done, okay, and
they're like, oh but no really, So like I felt
like announcing it. People now believe me kind of like
leave me alone, don't ask me if I want to play.
But now they're asking me if I want to play
in a senior's tour, which is rude because I'm thirty.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Four years old. That's very rude.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Like, Okay, now I was the youngest to do all
this stuff. Now that are you playing at the seniors tour?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Well?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
No, so here's what you could be the youngest to
play the seniors.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
You're the youngest, all these titles for the youngest or whatever.
I think that would be amazing. Though, if you said
stayed retired for whatever, however long you went, and then
wait till you're like eighty five ninety and then try
to be the oldest so you can have both titles.
That would be amazing. My body would break in half. No,
you're fine. Medicine is going to be amazing. You know,
(13:30):
you're probably healthy. I think there's no issue here.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Okay, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I never understand, like, like golf is a good when
tennis is the same word. It's like you're ranked third
in the world or you're you know, one hundred and fiftieth.
I think all of that stuff is like I would
just keep going forever. If I was like one hundred
and fiftieth in the world, but I used to be third,
I'd be like, yeah, but that's still amazing. I'm one
hundred and fiftieth out of something that millions of people do.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I don't know, when you play, you don't think of
it that way. When you're one hundred and fiftieth, it sucks.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Okay, that's insanity that there's only one hundred and forty
eight people better than you at something. Golf is so
pure in your leaderboard, just being who made the most money. Yeah,
I wish all sports were like that.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
But like, it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I mean, it's fun because it all comes down to
you and it's just a matter of how you play.
It's stressful, though, I mean because if you don't make
it past Friday, you make zero dollars and you're in
the negative.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You made you say you make zero dollars. But you know,
something tells me the Swoosh check doesn't care if you
made it past Friday. I think they care. Well, Ma,
they care, of course, but you don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I mean, I had it lucky, but yeah, it is stressful.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well sure, I know, Okay, fine, you're lucky, but you
earned it and you were sellable and it was it
was fun. There's a reason that Nike pays you. You want
to know why, because it works.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, people care more about what Kim Kardashian has to
say than our president.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Nobody cares what Kim has to say. We just want
to look at her butt. I do find her show fascinating.
It used to bother me when people would say about
Kim Kardashian or the Kardashian like, what do they do?
They don't do anything. It's like they film a show.
There's cameras in their face all day long, Like that'sh hard.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah yeah, I mean they are their machines.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
The makeup and the hair alone, Like sitting there, somebody
touches my face that long. Oh no, I don't. I
don't like it either. Would you do a reality show?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
No, I can't do cameras in my face.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
What if they're just like hidden throughout your house, that'd
be terrifying. Webcams remember back in the dial up day?
Did you ever log into one of those houses?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
What was that weird internet website where you can go
on and like you can see random people?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Is something Rolette?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Chat relate?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
That was just just chances to see penises. It's like
every every eighth person was a penis. Let's I forgot
about that. I was like, all right, put it anyway,
just click off as fast as you can. The guys
just sitting there danging it by the camera. That was
no good. Do you actually like golf?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I do? Like today? Yeah? Is it easier at thirteen
to block out the noise or thirty thirteen?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
And we had no Twitter, Instagram, Facebook? So when I
play and when I played in PJ Tour events, I
didn't have to post about it on social media, and like,
you know, see all that. You know, if you didn't
have the AOL dial up in Google, I mean, I
don't think Google is.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Even around love when you were Yeah, Google, you're still young.
I had dial up barely for a week.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Oh my god, I had to I had the floppy
disk wire thirty four.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, all right, do.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You know when Google started?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Do I know? How?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Do you know what the first year Google was born? No,
two thousand and two.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So yeah, here's my stance on golf. I've been around
the game my entire life. We've always had a home
on a golf course in Florida, and it was shoved
on me and I despised it. We're in Florida, Central Titusville,
near Kennedy Space Center.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
So do you see like the you see things go
off at Kennedy Space Center, Like that'd be cool.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah. I wasn't there for the Challenger, if that's your
next question.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
No, I'd be like, I don't know if there was
like test runs.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Or they launched lots of rockets and stuff like that.
He used to go out out for them every time
to watch them from school. They would let you outside,
but then after the one bad one, they were like,
maybe let's not have this conversation with kids. My dad
did the worst job of how to get a kid
into golf. He only let me have two clubs, a
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three iron and a putter right right, like a maniac,
like a child abuser.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
A three ron.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
He's like, He's like, if you can hit a three iron,
you can hit any club. This is this is what
this idiot did. Second thing he did, that's insane. You
never get a golf cart. What because you need to
think about your next shot as you're walking up to it.
That's not true. This is none of it. This is
what my dad did to me. And I'm like, guess what, Dad,
(18:10):
I hate this game. I'm never going to play it.
Boom dead to me. You want to know what I
did on golf courses my whole life. Two things. One,
when it rained heavily, I would skimboard on the pedals
and get chased by the rangers. And then the second
thing I did was we would just hunt golf balls
and then sell them in our backyard instead of a
lemonade stand. Yeah, that makes sense. Those those are my
(18:31):
only but anyway, so that golf has been around my life.
My family all plays. Everybody plays. I I don't our
kid is really necessary.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I think it brings in sort of like a team
element to it. I mean, I can't imagine carrying my
bag for four days.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
It seems. That's what I take from it. It was
like it's kind of laziness. It just yes.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I mean I would totally dig a golf card go
out by myself. But I think it.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I think it helped pace of play. It just makes
it go faster. I think it brings in a cool
element to the game.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Did you ever have a female caddy? Yeah? Always? I
don't know, no, I did.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I had some, I had two or three.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Did they complain a lot, like why don't you carry
it for a few holes? Yeah? Do any guys have
female caddies? Yeah they do. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
There was a very famous female caddy, Fanny Caddy for
Nick Faldo. He was number one in the world for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
She's a legend. Golf is widely regarded as sometimes sexist, racist, elitist,
all the ists. I agree. How much of that did
you experience?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
You know, Funny grew up in Hawaii. Like the racist part,
I didn't you know experience it at all because it's
mostly Asians in Hawaii. It was a culture shock when
I came to my first event. It was in North Carolina,
went to Florida, lived in Florida for a bit and
definitely experienced it there. But yeah, I mean, golf is
definitely perceived to be elitist. It definitely has that element
to it. But I think there's like a new wave
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of golf coming in that is really breaking all the stereotypes.
You know, I just joined the ownership team for Los
Angeles Golf Club. It's part of the new TGL League,
which is like a new simulator technology driven golf league.
You know, just not be part of a country club.
I mean, I grew up on Ammunia public golf course, Like,
I'm all about that. But yeah, there's it's definitely elitist.
(20:17):
It's definitely can be all thes but I think golf
is trying to break away from it.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh the traveling, did you fly private? No? I play?
I play female sports. I know. But you're worth a
ton according to a celebrity networth. Is it over or
under your actual worth? I don't even know what they said.
I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what they said
without anybody knowing. Now, is it way over?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
It's pretty pretty good.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Interesting, interesting, don't look at my paper. You know. Let's
talk about equal pay. I was watching the US Open
and they were just bragging and bragging about how the
women's had the same prize money as the men for
fifty years. They were celebrating. But there was a few
people that's like, yes, but there was sponsorships that kind
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of made up the difference. So it wasn't like they
weren't interesting. They weren't truly like that cutting edge. Now
here's my thing with with who should get paid more?
And then you tell me why I'm wrong. I always
feel like, well, it's it's just based off of how
much you draw. Is that wrong? It's true?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I mean yeah, I mean I think with equal pay,
I think it comes down to how much women's games
are being broadcasted. People have to have the opportunity to
be able to watch women's sports. I mean, look at
that volleyball game where like ninety thousand people showed up
for a women's volleyball game. They like sold out entire
football stadium, you know, for golf, like let's say for
a PGA Torven they get like over one hundred cameras there,
(21:47):
you know, following every group. They have shot link. They
can go to an app and see every single player
on our tour, Like we have ten cameras maybe for
the broadcast, right, you know, like the rounds seem longer,
players seems slower. You're not cutting the people, obviously, Like
when you watch the Difference, you're going to watch the
men over the women a lot of times because of
how it's made, the production value, it's so different. So
(22:09):
then people are like, well, people don't watch women's sports,
so you guys don't get paid as much. Was like, well,
it's not given the same opportunity, Like you're not having
jim nantz call women's golf.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
People will watch jim Nance. I mean he's great, but
still I've heard the stories.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
If if he commentates on women's golf, people would watch.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
That's fair, you know, and like what you're what you're
saying is you just need men to talk about women
and then ratings and money will go up. I'm teasing.
Obviously they're you're such a great point because I actually
watch all the majors because of how visually beautiful it is.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Exactly like we don't get any of that, Like our
announcers aren't able to talk about any stats that we
have because we don't have statistics. We just got strokes gained,
which you'll have no idea what that is, and I
don't have enough time to explain it because.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I barely know what it is.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
But you we write the caddies write it down physically
on a paper and then hand that in. Whereas you know,
on the men they have shot link, they have every
single information stats and that goes hand in hand with
sports bettings. That's a law of the draw nowadays, you
know we don't have that capability yet.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Would you want to be like a commentator or are
you I should I shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
No. I tried it, but you have to travel way
too much and I'm just not over traveling.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yes, that's my thing too. I would love to help
the surfing you know, professional surfing circer and be like
a commentator on there, but I like, I'm not going
to these locations you commentate for golf. I don't want
to do that either. Golf takes himself way too seriously
and golf doesn't need my help, like that's their problem.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
No, I think we need we need comedians.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I've been like, remember that time a Kevin hart and
Snoop Dogg commentator for the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I think we knew that for golf. Well, I agree.
I think if you have Kevin Harten's Noop Dogged Daniel Tosh,
I mean, they would really be nervous because I would
immediately like, you know, on Sunday at a big moment,
is now a good time for us to talk about
abortion and how important it is for women to have
the right to choose? Can you imagine? No? I can't,
(24:21):
but I would. I would think that would be fun.
Do I want to jump into my live questions or no? Sure,
I don't even know if I don't know what live
is not really, but here here's how. Here's how I
know enough when you had to pick a team or
picks me to root for Tiger Woods or Phil Mickelson
(24:41):
just as a casual fan of just hated Phil Mickelson.
So that's how I start how easy it is for
me to pick aside. Then this is how much I
need to know about Live. Oh Saudi Arabia. Oh they've
got a bad tracker with gay people. I'm out. If
all I need is one person to tell me into
Saudi Arabia is really good to gay people. Then I
(25:04):
would be like, oh, okay, there's an argument I need
to learn more, but I don't need to learn more.
I'm like, ah, it's not for me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I mean I think, you know, guys are getting paid
so much, so I understand, you know their mindset.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I mean they were getting generational wealth or did Phil
Mickelson need generational wealth?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I mean, I just well, for New Bras, I know,
all right, but I mean my personal take, I mean
I would never but I can sympathize and understand like
my colleague's decisions. But I think the thing in general is,
you know, I think, especially when it comes to women,
it complicates things a whole lot more.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Oh yeah, here's like, this isn't even an issue. I
know where I would stand on this. When I was
a young stand up comedian and I was struggling, and
I didn't really struggle, let's be clear, but I wasn't.
I could pay my rent here in La in my
studio apartment. Life was good. I was a comedian. I
didn't have to work a real job. I would have
(26:01):
friends like you got to go to Australia. We're making
a killing down there, and I was like, I don't
fucking want to fly all the way to Australia to
make more money. I go, I'd rather I'd rather be
less popular here, like you got guys, and I remember
there's a crew comics. I know whatever Jim Gaffick. Do
(26:22):
you know what Jim gaffickin is? He's a funny comedian.
He doesn't. He once told me we were on the
phone and he's like, he's like, why do I want
to go overseas and do my jokes in front of
people that don't laugh as hard? And I was like, Oh,
that's really funny. It's just so simple. What's the most
annoying thing someone has yelled after you? At tea? Off?
H Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
There was a lot I would hate, like when I
would hit a shot in Korea for some reason, like
they go and like you would hear that, and I
was like, Oh, that would just get under my skin
so much, and you know, you hear people be like
oh I could have done a better than that.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Oh no, I just thought. I that I understand, But like,
what about just the dumb people that always have to
yell some line from a movie or something like that,
like mash potato.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
There's mashed potatoes.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Did people ever just yell we oh? That would have
been fun? Yeah, oh yeah all the time. That's what
I like.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And it just breaks me back.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
To you didn't like that? No, I meant for hitting
a shot though with the ball flight. Yeah, but then
like good, yeah, what they do an elementary We's.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
A really hard last name to grow up with.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Oh, just saying Tosh, it's pretty awesome if you're Jamaican.
I don't know if you know Peter Tosh. He was
in Bob Marley's band. Okay, anyway, he was killed.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Tosh is easier than we.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I got. Everything was related, and then I got gay
innumendos because I was I wasn't as tough as some
of the other kids, so I it was more mainly
in Florida too. It's just funny that you said that's
when you're yeah, hatred of people started. He didn't say that.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I implied it, yeah, but I got we we all
the iterations of Wes.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
What's your home track? These days? Is that funny? Funny?
It is obvious when somebody doesn't know what they're saying.
Tries to talk golf Plingo. You were so confident with it.
I tried to, but then you laughed, and then I
was like, I better not say it.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I flied ol Cab, which even if I say this,
you're gonna be like, you're gonna act like you're like, yeah,
we're el Cab Tarzan good.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah. Well, I don't know anything about it. What's a
cost to play golf? What's what's a what's around of golf? Play?
Can you can't private course? What's a called a membership?
There for a year cost? I have no idea. That's
what I like to hear. Steph Curry showed nice shot
where it was you guys recreate iconic golf shots? Which
(28:54):
one did you do? We did all them? Oh? Are
you on every episode of it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
We filmed it all in one day.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I want to be on that show. It's I have
three I want to do. No, No, I got a
different famous golf shot. Which one? I want to do
Elands through the I want to do Elands through the
driver's side window. Did anyone do that shot yet? That's yours?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
That'd be your episode.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Oh yeah, that's yours. That's what I want. So if
you can talk to anybody over there, let them know
that I'm interested. I always give everybody that comes on
the show a gift. I don't buy them something. I
just take something from my house and give it to
them because I don't want stuff in my house. Are
you hard to shop for?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I'm not a great gift giver.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
You're not a great gift giver. But what a gift receiver?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I don't I'm not a gift to me. That's not
the way I show love. I guess, so like I'm
not like if someone doesn't give me a gift, I
don't love you no, but like you know, like I
just like when someone gives me, I'm like, oh, thank you,
but like it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Like uh huh. So my manager, I only have had
women run my career, my entire career, my manager, my agent.
They know I like sweets.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Oh I love sweets?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Well, right, so they give me candy. Am I gonna
give you a candy? Don't guess the gift and you
ruin it? Something like that. So they got me a
membership to like a Cookie of a month club. But
my wife is just furious. She's like, you manager, you
an agent. All they do is they buy you junk
food and they're gonna kill you. So this morning when
it came, she goes, my wife, just this is what
(30:32):
my wife's screw. Give it to Michelle Wie. That's what
that's what I heard this morning. Get that, Get that
fucking box out of here, Give it to Michelle Wie.
And I'm like, this is and I just love it.
I was like, this is the world I live in.
Oh yes, look it even comes in a cute bag
every month.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
That's cute.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So be kind spread joy. Oh and so yeah, anyway,
if you regifted, that's fine, but there's just a box
of cookies for you.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Really haven't opened it at all.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
No, no, don't even do it. Keep it rap nice
the case you want to regift it, I'm going to
eat it. You're not going to eat all of those
You'll die.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Like how many are there in here?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I don't know, Probably it doesn't but they're so big
and sick. I don't care. What are you hear butchering?
Oh thanks, I'm not not gonna take it. And you
know who's gonna be furious when she watches this is
my wife. She'll be like, are you out of your mind?
(31:28):
I told you not to eat anymore.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
That's a lot of cookies.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
First question, I ask all my guests, do you believe
in ghosts? Yes?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Okay, yeah? Do you know I believe in Yeah? Why
not because I.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Know why you believe in ghosts because you live in
Hawaii where all of you guys are batshit crazy. Do
you consider Hawaiians Asian? No? Pacific islander, Pacific islander, but
you don't consider Pacific islanders Asian?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
No, I think it's no things. I mean Asian is
the content.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I know, but there's some of those. Now I wasn't sure,
I'll be honest. Is that obvious? Was that an obvious question?
I should have donely?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Is obvious because they do group them together during like
API month.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
When an athlete's performed a lot of times they'll say, uh,
their country, Like they'll say America or do they say Usa?
Probably say USA, But if they're from Hawaii, they'll give
Hawaii separate. Really, I know they do it in surfing there,
I say Hawaiian versus like USA if you're from California. Interesting,
I'm always like, huh huh do you surf? No?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I watched Blue Crush as a kid, and I was terrified.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Oh yeah, well that movie's kind of that's a great
meal bee though.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It's not easy to learn how to surf in Hawaii,
Like you know, there's a lot of reef.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I know, but then there's waikiki if you want.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
To I know, but then I've My friend got hit
in the face by a board.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
People get hit with golf balls all the time.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Have you ever gotten a stinger? Yeah? Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I was literally standing in front of a person and
he shanked it so hard it went perpendicular and hit
me in the sham.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Was that a professional?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
No, it was like a pro.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
And we do these things every week where we play
with four amateurs and they're usually pretty bad.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
You know, my nephew, Mickey de Morett, he qualified in
the US Open a coup four years ago. That's amazing.
Yeah yeah, and his dad was the caddy, my brother
in law, and his dad pointed at a ball. I
told him that was his ball, and it wasn't. His
ball cost him three strokes and a few positions on
the leader board.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Oh no, that's not good.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I know. We don't let him live it down. So
he hasn't really, he hasn't found his groovy has all
those Monday qualifiers.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Okay, I blame It's a tough life.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
It's a tough life. I told him. It's not a
tough life. It's a very tough life. I tell him.
I'm like, just you won. I just it's kind of
back to my one hundred and fiftieth of the one,
like you won. You're not. You graduate from college, you
travel around the country in Canada, and you do these
Monday qualifiers and it's like you're twenty I don't know,
holot he's twenty five years old or something. Who cares?
(33:55):
You're not married, You have no bills.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Time to do it.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So much better and working.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
It's also true, but it's a grind.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I mean, it's the right grind. I'm wiener cousins with
a few pro golfers. Really, is that what it's called
wiener cousins when you when you've dated somebody that now
dates a golfer.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Is that called brothers?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
No, first, so we don't use that term anymore. I
don't think. We don't say eskimo anymore. No, I mean,
unless we're right, we say inuits.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
But in brothers. Sorry, no, it doesn't actually cancel myself
on No.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You can't get canceled on this show, but I mean
you could. You're thinking of something completely different.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Well, she's right, Yeah, I'm completely right. There's two terms
like cousins wiener. Cousins is way better, way better. To
be honest with you, I got embarrassed just in a
split second. I thought I had confused docking, which.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Is not No dockings different dockings different. Now I don't
even want to get into it. Unless you want me
to explain it to you, then I will. But I
don't want to. Thank you. Fine, I'll tell it to you.
It's foreskin. I never mind.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I don't want to have you ever thought about how
your show would be perceived if you did it?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Now, I think it'd be I'd be a huge hit.
What are you implying?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I was like, thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I was like, you know, you watch Chapelle your show,
and it's like, can you imagine?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I don't. I don't think. I always feel like, even
if you hold it up to a microscope, I side
on the right side of most issues. Even if it's like, oh,
that's really tone in lines. At least that's about I
try to justify it in my head. All right, I'm
gonna get back to you. Do you get drug tested?
I have it all the time.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Well not anymore for what everything. They're all banned literally everything,
Like you take the wrong cough medicine and.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
You're screwed, so you can't like hang out with rappers
and no, the Purple Ray, that's that's horrible. Did you
ever fail a drug test in your life?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
No, I would like dream about failing that.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Like, you know, there's a lot of times like you
take stuff for a cold or whatnot, like people, you know,
doctors prescribe you antibiotic like you don't like of.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Course, no one looks yeah, and then it's happened.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
It's happened recently where a guy took an over the
counter a cough medicine in like an Asian country and muse,
you know, like you go over and you get sick,
they give you something. The doctors you know, you don't
speak their language, and then all of a sudden, it's just.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Like that's why you take Korean on Saturdays exact, so
you don't get popped. I know, I never understand the
drug testings. I just ugh. I used to always say
I had a joke that you say, I want the
greatest athletes that science can create. Let's dope them all.
So create that league. Yes, thank you. That fuck live
(36:49):
in their dirty money. I want a league of just steroids.
I don't whatever. Well, we'll have some doctors that oversee
to make sure we're doing it in a healthy manner.
But let's go ahead. This is juice. See what happens.
Could you play around a golf of somebody's screaming in
your backstroke? Sure you could. Yeah, that's I'm gonna do
(37:10):
that my league. Two things, you can scream in people's
backstroke if it's funny, and if they're doped up, and
you're allowed to do steroids, and and if you're to
get in, you have to you have to be pro
choice to watch the event.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
What does that get crypt in with big doped in?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
No, no, no dope is the athletes. The I'm saying
that the patrons. The patrons have to be pro choice.
This is a very this is a small league. It's
a very niche. It's very niche. You're married to Johnny West,
Jerry West's son. Now. Jerry West recently was real up
(37:50):
in arms about how he was portrayed on the show
and guess what this is who I am? And I
don't even know the name of the show, Playing Time,
Winning Time, Winning Winning Time, Sorry, playing Time. That would
be my version where I just wanted to get in
the game. Coach. He got upset. He got upset by
how he was portrayed.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Y'all were upset.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I mean it wasn't even we all mean a family. Yeah,
the family was upset.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
So you guys hate watched it or something. I mean.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Some members of the family did, just to keep track
the lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Going, you know, oh okay, and it was that serious geez.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I mean, yeah, I was portrayed as a drunk, portrayed
as a rage aholic.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Was it for comedic effect? I think it was for
dramatic effect?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
But you know, it's just if you're going to do that,
just use another name, like, you know, because people are
watching that actually believing that's who you are. You know,
and it's not fair well.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I mean, in fairness, I know very much who he
is and this didn't even pop on my radar. Do
you call Jerry West dad?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
No, you know, dad?
Speaker 1 (38:51):
You call your in law's mom and dad. I do
because I think it's funny and also because my wife's
a lot younger than me, and they're not that much
older than me, So I think it's funny to call
him daddy and mommy.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
The whole thanks I would love to go to Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
You're married to somebody very famous in sports, you know,
the sports family, basketball family, and your six feet tall?
Is your daughter already? What percentile in her height is
she ninety fifth? Is she? Yeah? Are you going to
pressure your kid to play golf or rebuild the Lakers dynasty? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
You know, it's funny, Like I always like think, now,
like what's the right amount of push do you want
to motivate them to like have a dream and whatnot?
And I think my my my strategy right now is
just to have her try everything and see what she likes.
And it's funny because you know, obviously I played and
then brought it on tour, but when she was a
baby baby, but then I hosted an LPJ tournament. Now
(39:50):
she came for the whole week, She saw me play
at pebble from my last tournament and then now she
like is obsessed with golf. So it's funny, it's funny
how that works. She loves she was really into So
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
How much screen time do you let her have every day?
Not a lot.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
But also I'm not like super strict with it.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Okay, I'm just saying golf is so fucking long.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, I think twelve holes is the right amount of golf.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
That's that's my issue with golf too. If I wanted
to get into it. Who's got four and a half hours?
Speaker 3 (40:18):
No one, And that's just rude to your partner who's
launching is.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Is your husband wealthy too? You the breadwinner? Do you
got you? You don't have a scoreboard up in the
house leader board? Yes, the weekly all weekly? Oh man,
I really put the pressure on you. You guys got a prenup?
We actually do.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, but it was just basically saying that everything's gonna
be split in house.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I don't know why we put Oh no, wait now,
our prenup is rock solid. I wanted to my wife's
vetoed this. I wanted to get it leather bound and
put as a coffee table book. Oh, just because I
thought when guests come over to like, if they saw it,
they be are you guys insane? Is that really? I'm like, yeah, yea,
it's our preop, go ahead, page through it. How long
(41:03):
was your pren hunt? It's long, her lawyer told her,
I have to let you know I cannot, in good
faith recommend that you sign this.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, well, how close to the wedding did you sign it?
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I mean twenty four hours, no, thirty minutes before. I think,
I think, well, well before, but now we're almost past
the point where it matters in California. We've been together
too long. I know they're going to get They're going.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
To get me, they're going to get you. They would
get everyone.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
But hopefully she gets Like now she's kind of starting to,
you know, get motivated. Motivated. It wasn't the right way.
She works hard, just just don't get paid as well,
and that's got to change. You keep your finances separate
from your husband. No, we do it together. I don't
(41:54):
like that at all. Starting I'm starting to worry about things.
I'm going to page through that prenup years fifty to fifty,
I don't know. Michelle, thank you very much for taking
time out to come listen to my nonsense. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
There were some interesting segues in there, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
I'm not very good at this. Pasha well, Carl, that
does it. I want to thank Michelle Wee for being
on the show. She's a incredible athlete, great mom, and
a fun guest. And I also like that she explained
(42:30):
something to me about why watching female golf wasn't as entertaining,
and it just made sense, Like the whole thing. It
just clicked in my head. I'm like, that's I never
looked at it from that perspective, having all the better cameras,
all that stuff. It adds up. That's why I view
female tennis the same as male tennis, because they're they're
(42:52):
getting the same treatment getting You're getting the same product
when you watch it on television, and it's not fair.
And in the other sports, ah, it makes sense. You
put your head down. It's a late night. Some plugs. Oh,
you know who wanted me to plug? They're not going
to spend any money. But Todd Glass he had a
(43:15):
new project that he's doing. He wanted to plug it,
and I said, I don't have no interest, but I'll
let him. I'll call him and if he answers, he
can plug it himself. This will be the shortest conversation
that I've ever had with Todd Hey Todd. Yeah, it's
comedian Daniel Tosh. Yeah. Hey, I hear you have a
(43:36):
new project in New York City, and I wanted to
give you thirty seconds of free airtime to plug whatever
you need. I've been doing this.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Show for a long time, in touring with it, and
now i'd like to do New York run. It's not
only a stand up show, but it's you know, it's
what happens in the street before the door's open. There's
someone playing outside. After the show, there's an ice cream truck.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
It's a real experience and you need money? Yes, how much?
How much? Can I just write one check for the
whole thing? What do I need to cut?
Speaker 4 (44:08):
I'm always embarrassed to tell you because we're looking for
about one fifteen.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I'll give you one hundred and fifty dollars Todd. Yeah, no,
Old Daniels sleep, Thank you, goodbye, Todd. I love you.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
You're not playing this though, are you?
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Boys? Wear pink dot com check out my clothing line
for toddlers. The Goat premieres May ninth on Prime Video.
I got new tour dates. Fresno selling like hotcakes if
you had hotcakes the day before and You're like, Eh,
(44:51):
I don't know if I can do any more hotcakes.
Let's go Fresno, buy more tickets. Uh whatever, come see me,
you stand up. I'm so much better live than I
am in this form anything else. Oh, my son his
bedtime stories that were recorded when he was three years old,
(45:12):
got a new one. See you next week.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
Once a pine a pine. There was a poky pine,
but they were not just any kind of poky pine.
This was a mean poky pine. But all the pine
wanted to do. They were so mean because they did
(45:35):
all they got was hit. They did, didn't needn't did
to do anything every time they got lapped, and all
were to post in that hot bye. They wasn't just
any kind of poky pine. They were a big big
sack suzz sauce pokey pokey pie.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Byek.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
Then somebody said, hey, back there and me, and that's
why that's what he was. He wasn't a poky pine.
He was here muscl He wasn't a poky pine one
of those other ones that are similar with the poky pie.
(46:21):
Buddy a hedgehog, and there was a head trag. Then
the headshot called chat, hey, are you a poky pine,
and and the poky line said, yes, I'm a pooky
pine and what is your name? And then and the
poky's pine said, my name is pook behind name and
(46:49):
I'm named by Henry and and and Henry said.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
To the put to the.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
What had Troy, what's your name? And he said he
was his name was so way that I don't remember.
And then he said my name is Seattle and see
and the poe and the pokey side said what and
(47:24):
he the pogese mine said that about the name. Okay,
my name is pine and and he totally make up
any names. But then something happened Wayne and poll we
the old man is so ween, that's who came.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
What came.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
Entruments and they were saying it's way and the poony
o man, he's on he in the bell. He bumped
his head and twidding it up in the moning that
what they were singing. And one person said, come to
the doctor. And that's what they told on when they
(48:10):
when they got into the doctor. I'll tell you what
they told on when they got into the doctor. I'll
tell you doctor the doctor did me the news had
a bad case and loving you. They that's what they
told on.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Is that it.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
Nope, this is a very lunch soul. This is a
soyer thoughts all the way until it the moning they
was telling the so it is then a bed in here.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Okay, finish it up the end
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