June 25, 2024 • 56 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Toss Popcorn is a production of iHeartRadio. Hi. I'm Sienna
Jacob and I'm Leanna Holston and welcome to Tossed Popcorn,
the podcast where two idiots watched every film on the
AFI's one hundred Greatest American Movies of All Time, the
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Very slightly Less Racist tenth Anniversary Edition, and are now
watching films of our own and listeners choosing this podcast
is a safe star for people who don't know anything
about movies. Today we're watching star Dust. Oh I really
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am fine, honey.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You're wearing a.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Bathroom a mutually added film. Absolutely not. I'd never heard
of this film? What this was all you? Baby? Oh? No,
oh my god. I was coming into this with comfort
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and assurance that you also feel exactly how I do. Remember.
I remember you talking to it. Might have been our
executive producer back in the day. You talked to somebody
about it, or on one of our minipops you talked
about it, and I was like, what are you talking about?
And you were explaining parts of it, and I was like,
I have no idea what this is. What you guys
are saying? It was indeed a mini pop because I
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mentioned that in my prediction of this movie. So shall
we just jump into that.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, oh my god, fuck, I'm just flabber guest.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, also being like one thousand percent sure that you
also were like hell yeah, no, no, I've never even
heard of this. All of it was a surprise to me.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Okay, I made to watch this. Okay, here's my prediction.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Hi, Sienna, it's I'm about to watch Stardus. I know
I saw this, I think in theaters when it came out.
I remember next to nothing, but I think an old
old man dies laughing in formed he does by Zach
Reno that Robert de Niro plays a gay space pipe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think I'm gonna have a wonderful because I love you.
You guys explained this back in the day, and I
remember just being like, uh, how is that all going
to fit together? That sounds like it would create a
complicated film. Leanna, let's listen to my prediction. Yep, Hi, Leanna,
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this is Sienna. I'm about to watch Star Dust. I
just looked at the trailer even briefly, and it is
a star studded cast. It seems like it's gonna be
pretty fantasy. I have literally no idea. What's gonna happen
in this There are so many, so many actors. I
just don't know which characters are going to be the
main ones. So I hope. I hope people ride horses
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and someone gets a spell cast on them. Yeo, this
seems wild, all right? I love you goodbye. I can't
believe this. Well, this movie was such a banger.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I am so excited to talk about it. I've been
like giddy, like I went to bed like oh giggling
and kicking our feet. I can't believe I've never even
heard of start Us. Oh my god, I like skipped
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home from work yesterday till plas play on this film.
It's insane and and and you know what, it just works.
I'm so glad, you know. I was really worried because
well A, I thought you'd seen it before, but B
when I realized you hadn't, which was of course just
one minute ago, I experienced a real turmoil of emotion
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because it's fantasy and a romance. And I was like, also, really,
for Sienna, the most confusing plot potentially, it's crazy potentially,
but you didn't have it built into your child brain.
It's just can't make sense. I gotta tell you. Yeah.
I started watching it. All my roommates gathered around the TV.
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We were all like, wow, yeah, well Leonna before we
get into dream true mm hmmm. Uh hey girl, hey girl,
how's it going this week? What's uck you? It's pretty good.
I gotta go to America next week for my freaking
cousin's wedding. Oh yeah, and which cousin is? This is
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the one who does her sister? Huh? This actually is
not a cousin legally speaking. But it's somebody my generation
who I grew up with, who basically is my cousin.
You know, you know that Chustjenlly members aren't technically your
family members. But you're like, nah, you're basically what else
are you gonna call them? Yeah? Yeah, what am I
gonna call you? Your name? No, you're my cousin. So I'm
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going to his wedding. Where's the wedding? My Uh, it's
in Philadelphia and it's meant to be wait for it,
ninety three degrees outside, Molly. Also, you really couldn't go
to a more American city than that. It's like the
original American city, the first city that's probably not true,
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it's the most American. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna do
the National Treasure Runs, run around the town with a
tube Nicholas Cage. No, I'm gonna stay indoors if it's
that temperature. My god, hey girl, hey girl. Main update
for Sienna. I've been reading what I what I haven't
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read in a very long time. All right, what we're reading,
what's what's what's should we do? Here's what it started with.
I love that as an idea. It would never work.
We already do that with I. Uh it started because
I finally I cleaned my room. I had a day
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where I was like, I need to get things together
a little bit, because, as we've heard in the last
few episodes, I have been taking a lot of l's
listening back to the edits. I'm like, oh my god,
odd I am in Oh I think a low point,
but I've been working on it. And uh so I
cleaned my room the other day and I found the
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book that I had been reading when I moved, but
I lost it during the move, which was that's funny
to you. I thought that was a normal thing to say.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
And just so.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It's the brand remains strong. I really thought, my department
is working. I really thought when I said that you
were gonna be a completely relatable experience. Girl. I made
a spreadsheet of all my books when I moved the brand,
and I'd lost faith in the mail remains strong. The
state of the brands is strong. So the first one
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was sure, I'll join your cult. Maria Bamford's book. Yeah,
And I finally finished it, uh, and it was great.
And then I started reading a Picture of Dorian Gray
because it was recommended on Libby for Pride Month. Is
it Oscar Wilde? Did he write that? Okay? Yeah, but
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I'm enjoying it. And let me tell you something. When
you're reading, you aren't thinking about that many other things.
And it is amazing. Oh my gosh, this is an
incredible segue if you're if you're ready to segue, I
am ready to segue because do you know who was
in a film adaptation of the Portrait of Dorian Gray? Who?
Ben Barnes. Do you know who was in the film
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star Dust for approximately seven minutes? No, Ben bah Who
is that? He played Prince Caspian in the Chronicles of
Narnio Caspian And then that guy who is he? In
This and Bone, he is the slut. At the beginning,
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I young father looking at him, I was like, this
man is way too hot to be here for just
a second and not matter. But it was early in
his career. But I guess he was meant to be.
He was meant to be like a prince Caspian of sorts.
He looked very princely. Oh yeah, oh yeah, Oh my gosh.
I'm so excited to talk about this film. I love
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this movie. I might buy it on I too, was
to have it at any time, so fierce I wrote
the shortest, longest summary I could. You know, I do
remember opening I mean, speaking of reading, I read a
novel when I opened your notes. I'm excited a short story,
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a short story, because I think this is the relevant information.
Without me telling you what actually really happens that much
in the film, I'm gonna give you all the relevant
information and it may just take six paragraphs. Okay, okay.
Here's a synopsis of the film Stardust two thousand and seven. Now,
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Tristan's dad lost the wall to the magical side of
town back in the day, where he banged a random
imprisoned princess from the street yep. Nine months later, he
received a child who he then raised. This child, Tristan
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desires the hand of Sienna Miller. They see a shooting
star and he tells Sienna Miller he will bring that
star to her in time for her birthday in one week.
She says, Okay, I'll marry you at that point, even
though you're not as high class as me and I'm
pretty rude to you. And also I will marry this
other guy if you don't bring it back to me
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in time, which again is one week. At the same
time as this, we see that the shooting Star is
actually a woman who looks a lot like Clear Danes,
who is now baffled in the middle of the crater
she has created. Remember she is literally a star as
well as anatomically female. Okay, this will be relevant later.
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At the same time, seven brothers are fighting over the
throne to take from Pietro Tool, the current Pietro Tool
and a special amulet will prove that they are meant
to be king. Believe it or not. As luck would
have it, that special amulet smashed into the shooting Star
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when she crashed landed, so the amulet that the kings
want the amulet that these boys who want to be
king want is attached to this star that others are following,
which brings me to that. At the same time, a
witch also sees this shooting star across the sky, which
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thrills her because if she cuts out the heart of
the star, but who again is a woman, and eats it,
she will have eternal youth. Yay, Tristan and Yvonne, who
namnoidea the star Vain think it was vain. Tristan and Yvaine,
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who is the star by the way, start to walk
back towards Wall, which is the name of the human
side of town, but they keep getting attacked by the
witch in various ways. So many things happen, I really
don't know if I could recount them all. For example,
Robert de Niro enters as a sky pirate who loves
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to wear gorgeous dresses. These strong characters that I mentioned
before all have their own goals and end up meeting
for one epic battle in the Witch's mansion, And in
the end, Tristan doesn't want Cianna Miller to be his wife.
He actually falls in love with this star, and nobody
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eats her heart and yay.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Also, he becomes king because he was actually the son
of the long lost daughter who was from the royal family. Yeah,
simple plotline, easy elevator pitch, go wick have simple. I
do have no idea how they would have pitched this.
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What would your elevator pitch of this film be the
best movie? We're thinking about making a very good movie,
the perfect what I mean, a dream come true of
a fantasy film. Sorry, everyone, if you'll excuse me, I
really want to be king and I have about well
four more brothers to kill. We'll be right back. Well, Leona,
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shall we get into our phone notes? Yeah, this is
the segment of the podcast where we read the notes
that the other person took on their phone while watching
or rewatching the film. Leanna, your first note is Abraham Lincoln.
Now again, all I recalled of this movie was the
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World's Oldest Man laughing himself to death? Is this the
Wall Tower? The wall is Peter O'Toole oh in his
bed he dies laughing. And for some reason, that's the
only imagery and audio that I had in my brain
from this. Wow. Fascinating. And then other than that, vibes
like I remember the vibes were excellent. And so when
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it started and it was the mid nineteenth century and
an Abraham Lincoln type guy was doing science, I was like, now, yeah,
now what is this? Yeah, the science it does start
with scientists that we will never see again. They do
not come back, and they really invested in that whole
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telescope set. My goodness, they are slaying in this, these boys,
in these fantastical spaces they have. You know, there's cell
phone face which Ben Affleck has, and then there's like
puffy shirt body and mind with Yeah, these guys were
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all rocking totally. What did you think of the lead guy,
the lead guid. I thought it was so funny that
his name was Tristan and what was his dad's name? Again,
like dustin their name. Their names felt like like surfer
names or something, which just felt sort of out of
place in this. But it's just a strange association now.
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But he was delightful. I uh, I didn't at first.
I was like, oh, this is the main guy. I
don't know why, but I didn't. I didn't exe. And
then also that long hair was working for him. Girl.
I loved that glow up girl. I loved that for him.
I Okay, so now, how did you feel about the
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main guy. I have not the words to describe the
experience of seeing that young gentleman with a shoulder length blowout.
We almost never get to have boy makeovers. Yes, I
loved that, Like he looked like just he was just
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like a cutie boy vibe before. But then they were like, Okay,
it's time to actually glow you up for the rest
of the movie. We're gonna make you a dream boat.
Oh my god, that is so important. Dreamboat, that is
so important. Oh I loved him, Sienna, you've written I
guess this is how she has to pick up dudes
because she can't move from her cart. Wow. They straight
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up banged raw within moments of meeting each other. That
was crazy. The movie starts and there's this woman who's like,
she walks up to Prince Caspian, the father who's briefly
on when we see the little uh hm, prelog. What's
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the original one? The prologue is the prologue, the early one. Wow, prologue. Yeah,
you haven't read in a while. I was about to
say prologue, but I was like, that's can't Somehow I
thought I was wrong, which is really humiliating. Yes. In
the prologue of sorts, uh, the father who is only
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this young father, not yet a father. He is walking
through the magical side of town. Mm hmm. It's a
market with many vendors and there's this one woman at
this place where they have little flowers, which ends up
being important. But she gives him this flower and she's
like she she makes out with him, and then the
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price of this flower is one kiss, and I was like, yes, queen,
get it. She comes on to him so hard she
goes to kiss her, kiss her on the cheek. She
swoops yeah, makes out with him in the middle of
the street publicly, and he's like all right, uh huh,
all right. And then she's like, please reread me, and
he's like I'll try. And then she's like, just kidding,
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you can't. A witch cursed me. I'm a princess and
I've been cursed by witch. And then she walks into
her little cart and she's like, come with me, eh,
and then they presumably belie bang. Oh. They sucking fuck
all night long. They didn't even really connect. They didn't
have like a connection moment as much as they were
just like I think you're hot, let's do this. This
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movie was down for one night stands. But she is
a yeah culture they it really is, and she is.
She's attached to her cart. So for that reason, I
guess that she has to make her moves quick quick.
Oh yeah. They literally can't get further away otherwise she'll
never see them again. These people are boning. That is
what they do. Like there's no no two ways about it.
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They go into that cart and then they have a chiambiguous. Yeah, Leanna,
you have said theda tinsel, and you said I kind
of want Michelle Pfeiffer to win TVH. Michelle Pfifer plays
the old old witch, an old bitch, three old bitches
in this film, and when she transforms into the young
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version of herself, her hair has shiny little bits in it.
She's so young and gorgeous, which is literally what the
members of the sorority Kappa Alpha Theta put in their
hair during rush in the springtime on campus at Stanford
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University to show their youth and that they are not
an old witch. They none of them are old witches. No, no,
having they're very young. Having tinsel in your hair says,
I am not an old, crotchety witch. I am a young,
youthful woman. I'm a young hot lady. You want to
eat you want to eat a star and be like me? Yeah?
I tinsel all the way. Loved this witch. Yeah, that's
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so interesting. I loved her. I wanted her to win.
I And when when did you know that you loved her?
What was it that sealed the deal? Just immediately her vibes? Oh?
I think it was because we met her just truly,
just psychologically. We met her more like we met her
before we really met the star. And so I was like, well,
it is her right and unfortunately I hate to do this,
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this is horrible, But she was simply so hot that
I'm like, she deserves to be this hot as long
as she wants. I would be so mad if I
could be this hot and also do magic and the
two couldn't go together. Yeah, I'd probably want to eat
some hearts. Leanna, you've said falls to earth better put
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on this necklace?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
That was crazy. Why did she know to do that?
The introduction of the star, I would say, is something
they could have worked on. They did not explain the
mechanics of her like, what was it like to experience
this for the first time because I knew I was like,
oh yeah, Clared Danes the direction. I could not figure
out for a while that she was straight up a
star because I was like, what are you talking about?
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Oh my god, you're just like Tristan. Yeah, it didn't
make any sense. But I also didn't know that was
kind of a surprise thing about the mechanics of this film.
I knew it was all magic, right, but they're like, surprise. Yeah,
a star is a person. Okay, stars a person. Yeah,
and stars are people too. Stars are people. It's maybe
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just like a culture. Huh. She lives in a specific
place that they can all go. It's not like that supernatural. She's,
if anything, just culturally a star. Well, they do say
that if she crossed into the human world, oh right,
you right, turn into a rock, So I us in
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that realm stars have like form in a row horn. Yeah, Leanna,
you said, do we think horses are like so tired
of being dressed up as unicorns? That is such a
good question, thank you, because is this the ideal that
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we want from horses? It's it's it's mean of us.
We can't accept them as they are. It is mean
like always? Do you think every horse is like, I'm
sorry I can't be her.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yes, I'm sorry, I can't have a horn on my
head be all white and be mystical and be magical
and protective and be able to save you from any
sort of witch?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
What is it that the horn does? Why are we
all so horny for the horn? Why are we just
so preoccupied with this unicorn's horn? And it just be
like a really adept horse. Why should we settle for
a horse who's really honed their craft, a horse that's
really fast and can carry more worse stuff. Yeah, I
guess it is protective. I guess unicorns are sort of protective.
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I didn't really think about that about them, but you're right,
that is I guess. Yeah, the unicorn was sent to
like help her, but did lead her directly to the witch,
which was hard top. Yeah. Yeah, you think that maybe
she would have a sixth sense of some sort for danger.
But I guess you know, we're all out here just
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trying to do our jobs. Sometimes it doesn't happen very well. Yeah.
I mean, if I were a horse, I'd be so
pissed if a unicorn got chosen over me to go
protect the star and then did a bad job. You
could have just like taken her to where she needed
to go, And the horses in this were doing a
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great job. Later, when Tristan is running so fast to
get her to stop her from crossing the wall, he
was running so fast. He was running so fast. I
was watching that horse. I was like, I see you.
I do yeah, I do see you. Leanna you've said
ha ha, hello sailor Ah. Robert de Niro is the
case as the gig Pirate. One thing that's been really
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interesting by doing this podcast is I've learned what a
good actor Robert de Niro is. I didn't know that
before because I only saw him in things like this
where he's playing like a fun, random role because he's
doing something different, probably for his grandkids eventually, yeah, or
his like expensive divorce or whatever it is, yeah, in
his life and he but he he really brings his
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all to every character. And honestly, as far as I mean,
I don't know, maybe I wasn't tuned into some of
the like more disrespectful parts, but I thought that this
was kind of like he was just sort of he
was a captain who was cool and liked to also
do wardrobe. Oh my god, it it was he yes,
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he was. It was just a wonderfully camp god. Yeah.
I loved him so much. And then eventually his his
uh when his crew comes in to have to stop
this guy while he was wearing a bodice of sorts.
Now listen, he was wearing a body. His crew comes
in and he's like, god, my reputation is ruined, and
they're like, no, it's totally cool. Yeah. It could have
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been so so much worse, yeah, than it was. It
was a little bit cute for two thousand and seven. Yeah,
it was sweet. It was. It was pretty neutral, to
be honest. Leanna, you said de Niro immediately doing a
de Niro impression. Yeah, in and he does that face.
I convinced myself at first that he was doing a
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Scottish accent. I was like, there's something, uh, there's something
you know, ye yeah yeah. But then he wasn't. Nope,
he was Robert de Niro. He was like, yeah, I'm
not doing that. I wonder if you changed his metocolic
how how I talk? Lehanna, you said I would trust
Robert de Niro with my life. Unfortunately I did not
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know that me neither. I think I learned it through
this film. He is very well. He's like the one
trustworthy person they meet on this film. He's literally like,
here's what you guys should do. He gives them some
advice as like a dad figure, and then he gives
the makeovers and they look amazing. They slay so hard.
And also in the other movies we've seen de Niro in,
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if you're on his good side, his bush side, as
I would call it, he will protect you, he'll look
after you side bush. Listening to our Dear Hunter episode,
you must be aware Robert de Niro has a perfect bush,
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which we learned in the viewing of that film. I
can't believe we're allowed to do all this. Leanna, You've said,
he's so hot with this hair. It does change this
boy's vibe. God, I really have it bro thinking about it. Leanna,
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you said this is so cute. I hope my next
breath is. My last was that when they were dancing
on the It was throughout the film, I think dancing
and then literally any moment they shared after. I was
very much that TikTok comment so cute. I hope my
next breath is my laugh. Their chemistry was cute in this.
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This was really I was yeh. I was happy for
younger audiences as well, because this is a perfect romance
to be obsessed with in middle or high school, middle
school especially because they just like each other and were
so romantic. It was really cute. And then they boned. Yeah,
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they do bone. They are not brave enough to do
that in a many romances b children's movies. Yeah, normalize
people boning. People who wanting to bone boning before they're married,
before they've you know, get it over with. They have
other stuff that they that are that will be intimate
for them later, like just let him do it, spending
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eighty years together. Yes, I've puzzled you. Oh okay, I
know when you mean. You've said Mark Strong somehow even
hotter in water. And at first it was like, you
mean when he's getting air drowned or later, But no,
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you mean that was a cool shot. Do you have pictures? Yeah?
That was that was cool when he jumps in the
press by the effects in this film, it was creative, yeah,
and practical. This is one of those films where they're
like that is very two thousand and seven, and that
They're like, we have cgi, We're going to use it
to do some cool stuff. Like we we aren't above
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using it. However, there was there was passion in it somehow,
you know, like they were doing they they wanted to
make things big, things grand and they did achieve that.
And that could have been done gratuitously mm hmm, but
it was not. Did you just confess your feelings to
a mouse? Careful? They might have understood more than you thought.
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Take a few minutes to recover. We'll be right back,
he said. Hot of him to be on fire when
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in this epic battle at the Witch's home, you mean
Mark Strong is on fire, a little on fire, like
he stands up and his long coat parts of it
are a little bit ablaze. I was like, this is
very hot, hot of him. That was crazy. When she
gets the little clay done out of him and breaks
his so she uses this little clay dummy to be
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a voodoo doll of sorts where she uh she she
breaks his limbs and then throws it in the water
and he raises up into the air and drowns on land.
It air drons was crazy. It was very epic. Yeah,
it was very brutal. It was gross. The air drowning
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I loved. I thought, oh, what a creative that was
very cool and creative. Yeah, anytime a limb breaks, I
will throw up and and it really they really went
for it. That was too much. It was a lot.
It was terrifying. It was really terrifying. Also, I'm like,
how much magic does it make take for you to
do that? Because you could, really, you could do anything.
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Why wouldn't you just pop his head off? And then
later when she's fighting, she's fighting Tristan and she fishes
the clay out of the water and uses his corpse
to sword fight. Okay, I loved that. That was cool
as hell. That was so fun. What a fun sword
fight choreography used in this film. It is very imaginative.
I really enjoyed that. I thought that was There were
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a number of times where I went, wow, that is cool. Yes,
you did right for being so complicated, this movie works,
thank you, it does. I don't know how they did it.
I really don't know how they did it. And Leonna,
I'm going to read your last four notes just altogether
because they seem to go together. You said yes gay,
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Robert Gay, Henry, Yes, that haircut on a handsome man
just does it for me. Well, Robert de Niro is
a gay pirate and Henry cavill as a gay rich
guy wink at each other at the coronation, and then
Tristan and his hair on his handsome face looks so good.
(31:55):
What a perfect ending. Yeah, that was hilarious. I love it.
I love a movie it ends with a coronation. See enough, Yes,
move along into our segment Badges and trages. Let's do
this is where we award the film badges for Babylon candles, oh,
and tradges for tearing out the innards of a ferret. Perfect.
(32:23):
I loved the Babylon candle thing. I thought that was
so fun. That was interesting to me. It felt environmentally inefficient,
like one journey burns through half a candle. That's crazy.
That was disappointing. Yeah, it's too bad. That was That
was a shame. That was a shame. But I did
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like how they had special little objects that they were like,
this is going to be a special little object, and
then they'd bring them back sometimes in satisfying ways, and
you went, how many do you okay? For Ben Barnes
immediately being a slut. Okay, Yes, this man mediusual tension
with anything at all, and it is good when a
(33:09):
film or series recognizes that. Yeah, yeah, badge for the narration.
This immediately starts with some hard core narration from do
you know Who's the narrator? I looked it up well.
I thought, I was like, this sounds sort of like Jumbledore. Ope, no, oh,
Then I'm thinking it sounds like what's his name? Uh?
(33:30):
From Lord of the Ringdale gandal a common mix up, frequent,
very understandable, Old White Wizard, long White.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, it sounded like a familiar and it was Ian McKellen.
M This movie had everyone badge for the costumes. I
thought they were so creative and fun. They were so
good at being like, yeah, period era fantasy piece, but
also having their own little quirks. You're so right. The
wardrobe was great, was great. When she was even her
(34:02):
little star outfit, I was like, yeah, she's a star,
She's a star. They made it. They made it durable
and simple enough that she could wear it for the
whole thing for most of the time. But you know,
she didn't look like everybody else. She looked like she
came from the sky. Okay. Badge for living with your
parent I love when they do that, when grown people
(34:24):
live with their parents in because it just makes so
much sense financially. A badge for costume detail. The brothers
costumes all have their numerals on them, like Septimus's buttons
all had the seven on them. H and there were
often like Roman numerals woven. Yeah, through love it. Badge
(34:45):
for the way he flies in when he uses the
Babylon candle. That made me laugh out loud. That was
so funny. He's absolutely still flying at the speed of light.
You only see it for a second, and then he
smashes into a beautiful star. Yeah. Badge for the scenery. Oh,
it was so beautiful and it was so varied. Yeah,
(35:09):
the scenery was do you know where they shot it? Outside?
Badge for a fierce witch. I love that vibe. She
was in it so much. She was just Michelle Pfeiffer
brought something special to this role. I loved her. Mmm.
Badge for I like it when a horse wears a
(35:29):
little feather on its head. Four horses pulling a carriage
all had big plumes on their heads, and I love that.
I really love that. Again, the one. I think that
was them trying to be unicorns. Maybe that's so sad.
You're perfect the way you are. Badge for Ricky Gervais
(35:54):
in this hat. Not for Ricky Gervais. Okay, he's a
bummer and just his vibe I don't enjoy, but ugly
seeing him in this hat, I was like, this is
the very funniest version of you. I don't get why
you're not doing this all the time. No, he's too
busy being transphobic, isn't he He is a horrible person.
But that hat was so large. That is the funniest hat.
(36:19):
I've never seen him look like that in any way,
shape or form. Eh Oh. A badge for the world
building obviously fantasy realm, very fun, very very much, a
lot to play with. But also they remind you that
you're in the nineteenth century, not just like Middle Ages fantasy,
because when the space when the sky pirates come in
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their ship is partly made out of wood, but it's
also partly made out of iron, to show you that
that's the year you're in that era industrial. Even though
this was magical, they did place us in time, like
when they mentioned the gold Rush. A badge for places.
I'll go to the gold Rush and fetch you gold
(37:03):
San Francisco. I'll go to the gold rush where this
is currently that is currently occurring right now that well,
bet you gold now mm hmm there be gold in them. Yeah,
and then he became sort of prospector Core. It's really weird.
I have a badge for a bath with a headrest. Later,
she's taking a bath and it looks so comfortable. She
(37:24):
has a head mirror head lean. Why aren't they all
like that? I miss those giant baths that were big
bronze turens. Yeah. Badge for killing Ricky Gervaise. That deserves
that was meant to happen. Nice, get him out of here.
Badge for I put a badge for these women flirting
(37:46):
even though the witch was trying to kill her. There
was a sense of my roommates and I watching it
thought it was very funny that Claire Danes when she
enters this in and this woman is like, come on,
I'm gonna give you a sage and all she's just
being so nice to her. She's so hot and being
so nice, and Claire is like, okay, that sounds great. Yeah,
Like the only way that she could logically be okay
(38:09):
with all the stuff happening. Is she if she is
if she is like openly having a flirtation with Michelle Pfeiffer,
which like, yeah, if that makes sense, you should do
that in a tavern. Absolutely everyone looks good in that lighting.
I got I wrote, long coat, flowy hair, very badge, Yeah,
(38:31):
Tristan's makeover, really good stuff, some really good stuff in there.
Badge for this is a little two thousand and seven.
But also it just it was cute when the crew
was like, you'll always be a captain captain yeah, because
they accept him for who he is and what he
likes to do in his free time, and they accept
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him for all of his wonderfulness. It was really cute.
I think that scene walked so the gay Pirate Show
could run, you know, totally totally. Someone went, I want
to see more of that? Where if that please? Badge
for it. When Tristan is a mouse and Claire Danes
is like, can you carry give me a sign and
(39:14):
the mouse just looks at the cheese over her shoulder,
I loved that. I loved that so much. I also
laughed so much when she said I think I love
you and then it cut to a mouse, a mouse
with nothing going on in its brain. That is so funny.
Oh yeah, my final badge is for this fight scene,
(39:37):
believe it or not, this whole big epic fight scene.
This movie really succeeded in doing epic things. Yes, the
the air drowning, though disturbing, was really cool. The later
using a corpse to fight him was very cool. All
of the chandelier stuff was just like they just kept
(39:57):
building very well. They were building. Yes, then she's like,
I'm it's over. I'm not actually gonna kill you, just kidding.
Of course I'm gonna kill you. That was cool, good
little bit. It was really well done. Yes, a badge
for Oh my gosh, Charlie Cox is a very fast runner.
That man was sparrinted. I was impressed. There was some
(40:20):
physical prowess on display there that was notable. And my
final badge is a badge for some really good physical
work here, which is of course, during the corpse sword fight.
Whoever that actor was doing that corpse sword fighting was
so good. I know, I thought that was very very fun. Mmm.
(40:45):
Tragis trags oh, a trage for problematic unethical sourcing of diamonds. Yeah.
Well when he's like, go to Africa and get you
in time, and I was like, okay, first of all,
we're in Africa. He also was like, no, you will not.
(41:05):
It was very nineteenth century. It was colonial. Yeah, problematic.
I have a trage for he calls her a stupid
cow when they go like that was so out of
left field. He's traveling with this mystical star stating insult. Yeah,
(41:26):
he's fat, He's going around with his mystical star. And
then they use the Babylon candle to go home, but
they both imagine their own home and so they end
up in the sky. Yeah, and he calls her a
stupid cow, which I'm like, there was something kind of
genuinely tragic about that, where it's like, first of all,
she is a star, and but you have been She's
(41:46):
a human woman to you, and the way you treat
human women is by using this insult that is like
so weirdly used against women, which is calling them a
cow and not just a cow, a stupid cow, not
just any cow. Oh, a trage for Americans doing British accents.
They did their best, but who were the main ones?
(42:09):
Michelle Pfeiffer and Claire Danes. Yeah, yeah, I was like,
all right, I mean, you look wonderful, and for the
most part it's okay. But trage for I think this
is another trage where he just suddenly is very disrespectful
and I'm like, sorry, what he looks When she's taking
(42:30):
a bath, he opens those I'm not actually looking. I'm
not looking. She's like, I'm completely naked, Please don't be
present in my bathroom. Yeah. I guess they get away
with it because minutes later they're boning. But absolutely, it
was just it was suddenly disrespectful and I couldn't. I
(42:50):
was surprised at his behavior. It's not good when a
man is suddenly disrespectful. A trage for the mother has
not aged. They Recaph's an old British man and they
kept the same actress from when they were eighteen and
just put a little streak of gray. She had like
three gray strands. It was crazy. They didn't what the
(43:12):
fuck This movie used so many prosthetics. Also, they had
the technology. We know that. Yeah, that was annoying. My
final tragedy is for how rude he was to Sienna Miller.
It had been an entire it had been like two
hours since we last saw her, So whatever rudeness that
(43:35):
she gave before, like I had forgotten about it, So
all of a sudden, all we're really feeling at this
point is that he randomly he leaves Claire Danes. He
leaves Clare Danes, Yeah, goes to see Sienna Miller, and
he like pretends to be into her for a second,
just so he can drop her on the ground. And
you're like, I actually don't remember her that well, so
it seems like you're just being really rude to a
(43:56):
woman for some reason. Yeah, but I think she was
kind of an an a hole. For sure, she was,
but also they didn't make her such an a hole
that I felt really strong negative feelings to her. So
it just felt like it was just a little bit
too rude, like, especially for his character being very the
idea is that he's very kind of sensible and sweet
and gallant. Yes, so you'd think perhaps he would be like,
(44:20):
you know, I found someone else, I hope the best
for you, But instead he dropped a woman on the ground.
I don't know. Yeah, oh my god. When Henry Cavill
rounds the corner and tries to swort fight him, and
then Tristan pulls out his sword in a very hot way,
and Henry Cavill just goes, ah, that's so funny. That
was really funny. Henry Cavill was hilarious in this movie.
(44:43):
What was he? I know? He was really funny? Is
he up to? It was really goofy ooh. A trage
for the inferences that the pirate the Sky Pirates make
are really fucked up. There were so many allusions to
assaulting a woman throughout Clare Danes's time on that pirate ship.
(45:08):
Hmmm it made me very sad. Yeah, yeah, that was
like whoa, yeah, WHOA. A trage for Ricky Gervais. And
my final trage is it's a trage for it is
fucked up that his mom doesn't get to be the ruler.
She's the long lost princess, but it has to go
(45:30):
to the firstborn or the next born male heir. Yeah,
they don't say anything about that. Again, this is very
two thousand and seven in that, Like, I feel like
two years later they would have at least made a comment. Yeah,
once Obama had been inaugurated, a comment would have been made.
It just feels like they we were itching to hear
a comment on it, but they did it. Yeah, and
it was very so if this was based off a book,
(45:53):
it felt very book Yeah for literature, Yeah, it wasn't.
It just it just seems like retail because it was
kind of because it did stuff like being like we
still love you, captain, you know. Yeah, it seems like
they would have something that would be like, yes, queen,
in the next life you'll have it'll be your kingdom girl. Yeah. Yeah,
But they didn't even have the decency to pretend like
(46:15):
women had, that there was any sort of respect for
the the ladies in this Yeah. Hmm, shall we Leanna Noe?
Oh my god, you did that before? I know. Why
does it keep happening? Also, you're in my Google docs
(46:38):
as an anonymous blobfish. That's very that's very rude. Not as
rude as stupid cow Sienna. We simply must let's Babbylon
candle ourselves into our next segment. How to pretend you've
seen this film? This is for hmm, you are at
(47:01):
a tavern. You're at a pub. Oh yeah, you are
in a tavern. It is pouring rain outside. Mm hmmm,
you're in a warm, old tavern. I don't know. Septimus. Septimus,
Septimus flies into you of thin air. Barrel's right into you.
(47:22):
He goes Wow, says being in a warm tavern when
it's raining outside resid of this movie that I saw
a long time ago. My girlfriend dragged me to it,
stupid cow and and from the back of the tavern
you hear. Hey. There were a few things about this
movie though, that were actually pretty cool, Like this guy's
(47:44):
legs break and stuff, and like he says some cool
badass things to girls, and like walks in on her
in the bathroom and kills things. And uh, but I'm
gonna tell you about so many there's like so many
cool facts about this movie. And I can't wait to
tell you. I don't want to hear a thing about
if you have any associations with it. I'm just gonna
tell you about it right now. And in order to
air drown out the sound of Septimus, we're gonna give
(48:05):
you a few sentences you can say to pretend you've
seen the film Stardust. Oh my god, yes, Septimus, I've
seen Stardust. I don't need to be told about it
by some magical flying moron. Wow. Oh, this is kind
of cute. Actually, wow, this was this is this piece
(48:27):
of trivia is like a reason why this movie I
think was very effective. Yes, Septimus, I've seen star Dust.
So as we were talking about Ben Barnes, who plays
the dad, he was the preferred choice for Tristan for
(48:50):
a lot of people. When when I first saw him,
I was like, why isn't he the star? Mm? He
looks like a star. And the director intentionally chose Cox, who, yes,
was then unknown as we felt like he doesn't seem
known because he wanted to choose an actor who could
play a dork, who could easily transition into a suave
(49:12):
and handsome gentleman, and that is exactly what he did.
Oh my gosh. If he started out too hot and hunky,
then the transition would be nothing. But he was able
to play both. I can't see Ben Barnes as a dork,
not once, not for even a second. Anyway, That's cute,
that's very being not believing Carry Grant could portray a
yeah whatever sexless nerves. Yeah. Oh my god, Septimus, I've
(49:36):
seen Stardust and no, I don't think we're having a moment.
Oh yeah, because nothing says romance like the gift of
a kidnapped injured woman, and you've kidnapped me into the
conversation after injuring me by flying into me out of
the sky. I brought you this injured woman. Will you
marry me?
Speaker 2 (49:57):
What?
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Yeah? He's like, huh yeah, yes, Septimus, I've seen Stardust.
This is also about Charlie Cox. Nobody wanted him to
play Tristan because they're like, you should make it like
Orlando Bloom or somebody that people already know and love.
And Matthew Vaughn, the director, was like, no, I'm not
doing that. But what he did to make it up
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to Paramount Pictures is he cast Robert de Niro, Michelle
Pfeiffer and Claire Danes. Wow or like as soon as
they cast them, they were like, all right, fine, you
can do this, fine, Rando, But this is just funny
to me generally, because they're like, when he pitched the
movie to executives at Paramount Picture, but again, what could
he have possibly pitched. I'm sure they heard the whole
(50:42):
thing and they're like, can you at least put Orlando
Bloom in it? Yeah? That was a good sort of
band aid to a film back in again. Put Orlando
Bloom in it. See if that? If that helps, Oh, Septimus,
stop and get out of the tub. It's my turn
to use it. And then Septimus is like, what, why
don't you want to talk more about movies? And I
(51:04):
look him dead in the eye and I say, honey,
you're wearing a bathrobe. What, yes, Septimus, I've seen Stardust.
Fun fact, Charlie Cox suffered a minor injury while filming
the climactic battle sequence against the Witches when a huge,
(51:25):
solidified vase knocked him unconscious. I remember that. What I
remember that huge vase? Yeah? So are they saying that
knocked him unconscious in the movie, right, or are they
saying that he actually got knocked unconscious? Wait read the
fact again. Was he knocked unconscious ever in the movie? No,
(51:49):
he kind of just gets back up after the vase.
So I think he genuinely was knocked unconscious during the
filming and they listed it as a minor injury, which
is crazy. To get knocked unconscious is insane. Oh my gosh,
that you have to get knocked so hard to get
knocked unconscious. Boy, a light as a feather love him,
(52:12):
and now that you have dethroned Septimus out of your life,
we can cross the wall into our next segment, should
you watch this or where we tell you if we
think you should watch this movie or if you should
do something else with your twinkle time twinkle time. Leanna,
(52:35):
what do you think? Oh? Yeah, oh yeah, you can
watch Stardust. It's it's a hoot. It's so fun. It's
almost everything that I want in a fantasy film. Wow,
uh huh, totally. How about you, Siena? I will say
you could watch Stardust. It is a banger, and it
has some sort of two thousand and seven charm that
(52:57):
maybe I have nostalgia for. But something about the filming
was very comforting, and there were some really epic and
very creative and imaginative moments. Yes, I would say, I
would say, why not if you have two hours and
seven minutes and you want to hang around with your
(53:17):
friends and watch a Bonker's film. It's it's quite delightful,
so fun. Pay troll tool, patro tool. I'm patro tool. Well, Leanna,
what would you rate the film? M Stardust? I would
give Stardust four point five bin bonds out of five
Ben Bonds of course the nickname that New Zealanders have
(53:39):
for Ben Barns because when they say his name in
their accent, it sounds like bin Bonds, Bomban Bonds. I
a nearly perfect film, but it does lose that that
bit for all of the really uncomfy like insinuations of
(53:59):
violence to violence against women. Yeah, on that pirate ship
that was really really unsettling. Yeah, but the rest of it. Wow, See,
I know what would you rate the film? Start us?
I will give it four point two little elephants at
the beginning those did not come back. That was possibly
(54:22):
the most whimsical thing in the film, Two tiny little
elephants in a cage, Yeah, out of five. Similarly, there
are some moments where its two thousand and sevens, particularly
in like it's not that big of a thing itself,
but it speaks to a quiet acceptance of being really
disrespectful two women. Yeah, uh, just as like a as
(54:49):
kind of just a as just sort of a trope
and that's kind of it's unsettling on a level about
where a culture was at. But truly, also, did we
see a single person? I was also gonna say, and
like it's two thousand and seven and some big choice
so four point two because it's doing and mainly what
(55:10):
it gets points for is it's doing what it's doing
really well. I'm impressed. Yes, yep, so that has been
starred us. Thank you so much Leanna for bringing start us.
You're freaking welcome my life. I'd never heard of that before.
Speaker 4 (55:27):
Yay.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
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Very slightly Less Racist tenth Anniversary Edition, and are now
watching films of our own and listeners choosing this podcast
is a safe star for people who don't know anything
about movies. Today we're watching star Dust. Oh I really
(00:43):
am fine, honey.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You're wearing a.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Bathroom a mutually added film. Absolutely not. I'd never heard
of this film? What this was all you? Baby? Oh? No,
oh my god. I was coming into this with comfort
(01:05):
and assurance that you also feel exactly how I do. Remember.
I remember you talking to it. Might have been our
executive producer back in the day. You talked to somebody
about it, or on one of our minipops you talked
about it, and I was like, what are you talking about?
And you were explaining parts of it, and I was like,
I have no idea what this is. What you guys
are saying? It was indeed a mini pop because I
(01:27):
mentioned that in my prediction of this movie. So shall
we just jump into that.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, oh my god, fuck, I'm just flabber guest.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, also being like one thousand percent sure that you
also were like hell yeah, no, no, I've never even
heard of this. All of it was a surprise to me.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Okay, I made to watch this. Okay, here's my prediction.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Hi, Sienna, it's I'm about to watch Stardus. I know
I saw this, I think in theaters when it came out.
I remember next to nothing, but I think an old
old man dies laughing in formed he does by Zach
Reno that Robert de Niro plays a gay space pipe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
(02:38):
I think I'm gonna have a wonderful because I love you.
You guys explained this back in the day, and I
remember just being like, uh, how is that all going
to fit together? That sounds like it would create a
complicated film. Leanna, let's listen to my prediction. Yep, Hi, Leanna,
(03:03):
this is Sienna. I'm about to watch Star Dust. I
just looked at the trailer even briefly, and it is
a star studded cast. It seems like it's gonna be
pretty fantasy. I have literally no idea. What's gonna happen
in this There are so many, so many actors. I
just don't know which characters are going to be the
main ones. So I hope. I hope people ride horses
(03:29):
and someone gets a spell cast on them. Yeo, this
seems wild, all right? I love you goodbye. I can't
believe this. Well, this movie was such a banger.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I am so excited to talk about it. I've been
like giddy, like I went to bed like oh giggling
and kicking our feet. I can't believe I've never even
heard of start Us. Oh my god, I like skipped
(04:14):
home from work yesterday till plas play on this film.
It's insane and and and you know what, it just works.
I'm so glad, you know. I was really worried because
well A, I thought you'd seen it before, but B
when I realized you hadn't, which was of course just
one minute ago, I experienced a real turmoil of emotion
(04:35):
because it's fantasy and a romance. And I was like, also, really,
for Sienna, the most confusing plot potentially, it's crazy potentially,
but you didn't have it built into your child brain.
It's just can't make sense. I gotta tell you. Yeah.
I started watching it. All my roommates gathered around the TV.
(04:57):
We were all like, wow, yeah, well Leonna before we
get into dream true mm hmmm. Uh hey girl, hey girl,
how's it going this week? What's uck you? It's pretty good.
I gotta go to America next week for my freaking
cousin's wedding. Oh yeah, and which cousin is? This is
(05:19):
the one who does her sister? Huh? This actually is
not a cousin legally speaking. But it's somebody my generation
who I grew up with, who basically is my cousin.
You know, you know that Chustjenlly members aren't technically your
family members. But you're like, nah, you're basically what else
are you gonna call them? Yeah? Yeah, what am I
gonna call you? Your name? No, you're my cousin. So I'm
(05:43):
going to his wedding. Where's the wedding? My Uh, it's
in Philadelphia and it's meant to be wait for it,
ninety three degrees outside, Molly. Also, you really couldn't go
to a more American city than that. It's like the
original American city, the first city that's probably not true,
(06:03):
it's the most American. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna do
the National Treasure Runs, run around the town with a
tube Nicholas Cage. No, I'm gonna stay indoors if it's
that temperature. My god, hey girl, hey girl. Main update
for Sienna. I've been reading what I what I haven't
(06:28):
read in a very long time. All right, what we're reading,
what's what's what's should we do? Here's what it started with.
I love that as an idea. It would never work.
We already do that with I. Uh it started because
I finally I cleaned my room. I had a day
(06:49):
where I was like, I need to get things together
a little bit, because, as we've heard in the last
few episodes, I have been taking a lot of l's
listening back to the edits. I'm like, oh my god,
odd I am in Oh I think a low point,
but I've been working on it. And uh so I
cleaned my room the other day and I found the
(07:10):
book that I had been reading when I moved, but
I lost it during the move, which was that's funny
to you. I thought that was a normal thing to say.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
And just so.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It's the brand remains strong. I really thought, my department
is working. I really thought when I said that you
were gonna be a completely relatable experience. Girl. I made
a spreadsheet of all my books when I moved the brand,
and I'd lost faith in the mail remains strong. The
state of the brands is strong. So the first one
(07:44):
was sure, I'll join your cult. Maria Bamford's book. Yeah,
And I finally finished it, uh, and it was great.
And then I started reading a Picture of Dorian Gray
because it was recommended on Libby for Pride Month. Is
it Oscar Wilde? Did he write that? Okay? Yeah, but
(08:06):
I'm enjoying it. And let me tell you something. When
you're reading, you aren't thinking about that many other things.
And it is amazing. Oh my gosh, this is an
incredible segue if you're if you're ready to segue, I
am ready to segue because do you know who was
in a film adaptation of the Portrait of Dorian Gray? Who?
Ben Barnes. Do you know who was in the film
(08:28):
star Dust for approximately seven minutes? No, Ben bah Who
is that? He played Prince Caspian in the Chronicles of
Narnio Caspian And then that guy who is he? In
This and Bone, he is the slut. At the beginning,
(08:49):
I young father looking at him, I was like, this
man is way too hot to be here for just
a second and not matter. But it was early in
his career. But I guess he was meant to be.
He was meant to be like a prince Caspian of sorts.
He looked very princely. Oh yeah, oh yeah, Oh my gosh.
I'm so excited to talk about this film. I love
(09:09):
this movie. I might buy it on I too, was
to have it at any time, so fierce I wrote
the shortest, longest summary I could. You know, I do
remember opening I mean, speaking of reading, I read a
novel when I opened your notes. I'm excited a short story,
(09:31):
a short story, because I think this is the relevant information.
Without me telling you what actually really happens that much
in the film, I'm gonna give you all the relevant
information and it may just take six paragraphs. Okay, okay.
Here's a synopsis of the film Stardust two thousand and seven. Now,
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Tristan's dad lost the wall to the magical side of
town back in the day, where he banged a random
imprisoned princess from the street yep. Nine months later, he
received a child who he then raised. This child, Tristan
(10:18):
desires the hand of Sienna Miller. They see a shooting
star and he tells Sienna Miller he will bring that
star to her in time for her birthday in one week.
She says, Okay, I'll marry you at that point, even
though you're not as high class as me and I'm
pretty rude to you. And also I will marry this
other guy if you don't bring it back to me
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in time, which again is one week. At the same
time as this, we see that the shooting Star is
actually a woman who looks a lot like Clear Danes,
who is now baffled in the middle of the crater
she has created. Remember she is literally a star as
well as anatomically female. Okay, this will be relevant later.
(11:11):
At the same time, seven brothers are fighting over the
throne to take from Pietro Tool, the current Pietro Tool
and a special amulet will prove that they are meant
to be king. Believe it or not. As luck would
have it, that special amulet smashed into the shooting Star
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when she crashed landed, so the amulet that the kings
want the amulet that these boys who want to be
king want is attached to this star that others are following,
which brings me to that. At the same time, a
witch also sees this shooting star across the sky, which
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thrills her because if she cuts out the heart of
the star, but who again is a woman, and eats it,
she will have eternal youth. Yay, Tristan and Yvonne, who
namnoidea the star Vain think it was vain. Tristan and Yvaine,
(12:17):
who is the star by the way, start to walk
back towards Wall, which is the name of the human
side of town, but they keep getting attacked by the
witch in various ways. So many things happen, I really
don't know if I could recount them all. For example,
Robert de Niro enters as a sky pirate who loves
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to wear gorgeous dresses. These strong characters that I mentioned
before all have their own goals and end up meeting
for one epic battle in the Witch's mansion, And in
the end, Tristan doesn't want Cianna Miller to be his wife.
He actually falls in love with this star, and nobody
(12:58):
eats her heart and yay.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Also, he becomes king because he was actually the son
of the long lost daughter who was from the royal family. Yeah,
simple plotline, easy elevator pitch, go wick have simple. I
do have no idea how they would have pitched this.
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What would your elevator pitch of this film be the
best movie? We're thinking about making a very good movie,
the perfect what I mean, a dream come true of
a fantasy film. Sorry, everyone, if you'll excuse me, I
really want to be king and I have about well
four more brothers to kill. We'll be right back. Well, Leona,
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shall we get into our phone notes? Yeah, this is
the segment of the podcast where we read the notes
that the other person took on their phone while watching
or rewatching the film. Leanna, your first note is Abraham Lincoln.
Now again, all I recalled of this movie was the
(14:15):
World's Oldest Man laughing himself to death? Is this the
Wall Tower? The wall is Peter O'Toole oh in his
bed he dies laughing. And for some reason, that's the
only imagery and audio that I had in my brain
from this. Wow. Fascinating. And then other than that, vibes
like I remember the vibes were excellent. And so when
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it started and it was the mid nineteenth century and
an Abraham Lincoln type guy was doing science, I was like, now, yeah,
now what is this? Yeah, the science it does start
with scientists that we will never see again. They do
not come back, and they really invested in that whole
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telescope set. My goodness, they are slaying in this, these boys,
in these fantastical spaces they have. You know, there's cell
phone face which Ben Affleck has, and then there's like
puffy shirt body and mind with Yeah, these guys were
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all rocking totally. What did you think of the lead guy,
the lead guid. I thought it was so funny that
his name was Tristan and what was his dad's name? Again,
like dustin their name. Their names felt like like surfer
names or something, which just felt sort of out of
place in this. But it's just a strange association now.
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But he was delightful. I uh, I didn't at first.
I was like, oh, this is the main guy. I
don't know why, but I didn't. I didn't exe. And
then also that long hair was working for him. Girl.
I loved that glow up girl. I loved that for him.
I Okay, so now, how did you feel about the
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main guy. I have not the words to describe the
experience of seeing that young gentleman with a shoulder length blowout.
We almost never get to have boy makeovers. Yes, I
loved that, Like he looked like just he was just
(16:23):
like a cutie boy vibe before. But then they were like, Okay,
it's time to actually glow you up for the rest
of the movie. We're gonna make you a dream boat.
Oh my god, that is so important. Dreamboat, that is
so important. Oh I loved him, Sienna, you've written I
guess this is how she has to pick up dudes
because she can't move from her cart. Wow. They straight
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up banged raw within moments of meeting each other. That
was crazy. The movie starts and there's this woman who's like,
she walks up to Prince Caspian, the father who's briefly
on when we see the little uh hm, prelog. What's
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the original one? The prologue is the prologue, the early one. Wow, prologue. Yeah,
you haven't read in a while. I was about to
say prologue, but I was like, that's can't Somehow I
thought I was wrong, which is really humiliating. Yes. In
the prologue of sorts, uh, the father who is only
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this young father, not yet a father. He is walking
through the magical side of town. Mm hmm. It's a
market with many vendors and there's this one woman at
this place where they have little flowers, which ends up
being important. But she gives him this flower and she's
like she she makes out with him, and then the
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price of this flower is one kiss, and I was like, yes, queen,
get it. She comes on to him so hard she
goes to kiss her, kiss her on the cheek. She
swoops yeah, makes out with him in the middle of
the street publicly, and he's like all right, uh huh,
all right. And then she's like, please reread me, and
he's like I'll try. And then she's like, just kidding,
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you can't. A witch cursed me. I'm a princess and
I've been cursed by witch. And then she walks into
her little cart and she's like, come with me, eh,
and then they presumably belie bang. Oh. They sucking fuck
all night long. They didn't even really connect. They didn't
have like a connection moment as much as they were
just like I think you're hot, let's do this. This
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movie was down for one night stands. But she is
a yeah culture they it really is, and she is.
She's attached to her cart. So for that reason, I
guess that she has to make her moves quick quick.
Oh yeah. They literally can't get further away otherwise she'll
never see them again. These people are boning. That is
what they do. Like there's no no two ways about it.
(19:00):
They go into that cart and then they have a chiambiguous. Yeah, Leanna,
you have said theda tinsel, and you said I kind
of want Michelle Pfeiffer to win TVH. Michelle Pfifer plays
the old old witch, an old bitch, three old bitches
in this film, and when she transforms into the young
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version of herself, her hair has shiny little bits in it.
She's so young and gorgeous, which is literally what the
members of the sorority Kappa Alpha Theta put in their
hair during rush in the springtime on campus at Stanford
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University to show their youth and that they are not
an old witch. They none of them are old witches. No, no,
having they're very young. Having tinsel in your hair says,
I am not an old, crotchety witch. I am a young,
youthful woman. I'm a young hot lady. You want to
eat you want to eat a star and be like me? Yeah?
I tinsel all the way. Loved this witch. Yeah, that's
(20:09):
so interesting. I loved her. I wanted her to win.
I And when when did you know that you loved her?
What was it that sealed the deal? Just immediately her vibes? Oh?
I think it was because we met her just truly,
just psychologically. We met her more like we met her
before we really met the star. And so I was like, well,
it is her right and unfortunately I hate to do this,
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this is horrible, But she was simply so hot that
I'm like, she deserves to be this hot as long
as she wants. I would be so mad if I
could be this hot and also do magic and the
two couldn't go together. Yeah, I'd probably want to eat
some hearts. Leanna, you've said falls to earth better put
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on this necklace?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
That was crazy. Why did she know to do that?
The introduction of the star, I would say, is something
they could have worked on. They did not explain the
mechanics of her like, what was it like to experience
this for the first time because I knew I was like,
oh yeah, Clared Danes the direction. I could not figure
out for a while that she was straight up a
star because I was like, what are you talking about?
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Oh my god, you're just like Tristan. Yeah, it didn't
make any sense. But I also didn't know that was
kind of a surprise thing about the mechanics of this film.
I knew it was all magic, right, but they're like, surprise. Yeah,
a star is a person. Okay, stars a person. Yeah,
and stars are people too. Stars are people. It's maybe
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just like a culture. Huh. She lives in a specific
place that they can all go. It's not like that supernatural. She's,
if anything, just culturally a star. Well, they do say
that if she crossed into the human world, oh right,
you right, turn into a rock, So I us in
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that realm stars have like form in a row horn. Yeah, Leanna,
you said, do we think horses are like so tired
of being dressed up as unicorns? That is such a
good question, thank you, because is this the ideal that
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we want from horses? It's it's it's mean of us.
We can't accept them as they are. It is mean
like always? Do you think every horse is like, I'm
sorry I can't be her.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yes, I'm sorry, I can't have a horn on my
head be all white and be mystical and be magical
and protective and be able to save you from any
sort of witch?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
What is it that the horn does? Why are we
all so horny for the horn? Why are we just
so preoccupied with this unicorn's horn? And it just be
like a really adept horse. Why should we settle for
a horse who's really honed their craft, a horse that's
really fast and can carry more worse stuff. Yeah, I
guess it is protective. I guess unicorns are sort of protective.
(23:06):
I didn't really think about that about them, but you're right,
that is I guess. Yeah, the unicorn was sent to
like help her, but did lead her directly to the witch,
which was hard top. Yeah. Yeah, you think that maybe
she would have a sixth sense of some sort for danger.
But I guess you know, we're all out here just
(23:27):
trying to do our jobs. Sometimes it doesn't happen very well. Yeah.
I mean, if I were a horse, I'd be so
pissed if a unicorn got chosen over me to go
protect the star and then did a bad job. You
could have just like taken her to where she needed
to go, And the horses in this were doing a
(23:48):
great job. Later, when Tristan is running so fast to
get her to stop her from crossing the wall, he
was running so fast. He was running so fast. I
was watching that horse. I was like, I see you.
I do yeah, I do see you. Leanna you've said
ha ha, hello sailor Ah. Robert de Niro is the
case as the gig Pirate. One thing that's been really
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interesting by doing this podcast is I've learned what a
good actor Robert de Niro is. I didn't know that
before because I only saw him in things like this
where he's playing like a fun, random role because he's
doing something different, probably for his grandkids eventually, yeah, or
his like expensive divorce or whatever it is, yeah, in
his life and he but he he really brings his
(24:31):
all to every character. And honestly, as far as I mean,
I don't know, maybe I wasn't tuned into some of
the like more disrespectful parts, but I thought that this
was kind of like he was just sort of he
was a captain who was cool and liked to also
do wardrobe. Oh my god, it it was he yes,
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he was. It was just a wonderfully camp god. Yeah.
I loved him so much. And then eventually his his
uh when his crew comes in to have to stop
this guy while he was wearing a bodice of sorts.
Now listen, he was wearing a body. His crew comes
in and he's like, god, my reputation is ruined, and
they're like, no, it's totally cool. Yeah. It could have
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been so so much worse, yeah, than it was. It
was a little bit cute for two thousand and seven. Yeah,
it was sweet. It was. It was pretty neutral, to
be honest. Leanna, you said de Niro immediately doing a
de Niro impression. Yeah, in and he does that face.
I convinced myself at first that he was doing a
(25:35):
Scottish accent. I was like, there's something, uh, there's something
you know, ye yeah yeah. But then he wasn't. Nope,
he was Robert de Niro. He was like, yeah, I'm
not doing that. I wonder if you changed his metocolic
how how I talk? Lehanna, you said I would trust
Robert de Niro with my life. Unfortunately I did not
(25:56):
know that me neither. I think I learned it through
this film. He is very well. He's like the one
trustworthy person they meet on this film. He's literally like,
here's what you guys should do. He gives them some
advice as like a dad figure, and then he gives
the makeovers and they look amazing. They slay so hard.
And also in the other movies we've seen de Niro in,
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if you're on his good side, his bush side, as
I would call it, he will protect you, he'll look
after you side bush. Listening to our Dear Hunter episode,
you must be aware Robert de Niro has a perfect bush,
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which we learned in the viewing of that film. I
can't believe we're allowed to do all this. Leanna, You've said,
he's so hot with this hair. It does change this
boy's vibe. God, I really have it bro thinking about it. Leanna,
(27:02):
you said this is so cute. I hope my next
breath is. My last was that when they were dancing
on the It was throughout the film, I think dancing
and then literally any moment they shared after. I was
very much that TikTok comment so cute. I hope my
next breath is my laugh. Their chemistry was cute in this.
(27:22):
This was really I was yeh. I was happy for
younger audiences as well, because this is a perfect romance
to be obsessed with in middle or high school, middle
school especially because they just like each other and were
so romantic. It was really cute. And then they boned. Yeah,
(27:45):
they do bone. They are not brave enough to do
that in a many romances b children's movies. Yeah, normalize
people boning. People who wanting to bone boning before they're married,
before they've you know, get it over with. They have
other stuff that they that are that will be intimate
for them later, like just let him do it, spending
(28:08):
eighty years together. Yes, I've puzzled you. Oh okay, I
know when you mean. You've said Mark Strong somehow even
hotter in water. And at first it was like, you
mean when he's getting air drowned or later, But no,
(28:29):
you mean that was a cool shot. Do you have pictures? Yeah?
That was that was cool when he jumps in the
press by the effects in this film, it was creative, yeah,
and practical. This is one of those films where they're
like that is very two thousand and seven, and that
They're like, we have cgi, We're going to use it
to do some cool stuff. Like we we aren't above
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using it. However, there was there was passion in it somehow,
you know, like they were doing they they wanted to
make things big, things grand and they did achieve that.
And that could have been done gratuitously mm hmm, but
it was not. Did you just confess your feelings to
a mouse? Careful? They might have understood more than you thought.
(29:17):
Take a few minutes to recover. We'll be right back,
he said. Hot of him to be on fire when
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in this epic battle at the Witch's home, you mean
Mark Strong is on fire, a little on fire, like
he stands up and his long coat parts of it
are a little bit ablaze. I was like, this is
very hot, hot of him. That was crazy. When she
gets the little clay done out of him and breaks
his so she uses this little clay dummy to be
(30:04):
a voodoo doll of sorts where she uh she she
breaks his limbs and then throws it in the water
and he raises up into the air and drowns on land.
It air drons was crazy. It was very epic. Yeah,
it was very brutal. It was gross. The air drowning
(30:26):
I loved. I thought, oh, what a creative that was
very cool and creative. Yeah, anytime a limb breaks, I
will throw up and and it really they really went
for it. That was too much. It was a lot.
It was terrifying. It was really terrifying. Also, I'm like,
how much magic does it make take for you to
do that? Because you could, really, you could do anything.
(30:47):
Why wouldn't you just pop his head off? And then
later when she's fighting, she's fighting Tristan and she fishes
the clay out of the water and uses his corpse
to sword fight. Okay, I loved that. That was cool
as hell. That was so fun. What a fun sword
fight choreography used in this film. It is very imaginative.
I really enjoyed that. I thought that was There were
(31:08):
a number of times where I went, wow, that is cool. Yes,
you did right for being so complicated, this movie works,
thank you, it does. I don't know how they did it.
I really don't know how they did it. And Leonna,
I'm going to read your last four notes just altogether
because they seem to go together. You said yes gay,
(31:30):
Robert Gay, Henry, Yes, that haircut on a handsome man
just does it for me. Well, Robert de Niro is
a gay pirate and Henry cavill as a gay rich
guy wink at each other at the coronation, and then
Tristan and his hair on his handsome face looks so good.
(31:55):
What a perfect ending. Yeah, that was hilarious. I love it.
I love a movie it ends with a coronation. See enough, Yes,
move along into our segment Badges and trages. Let's do
this is where we award the film badges for Babylon candles, oh,
and tradges for tearing out the innards of a ferret. Perfect.
(32:23):
I loved the Babylon candle thing. I thought that was
so fun. That was interesting to me. It felt environmentally inefficient,
like one journey burns through half a candle. That's crazy.
That was disappointing. Yeah, it's too bad. That was That
was a shame. That was a shame. But I did
(32:47):
like how they had special little objects that they were like,
this is going to be a special little object, and
then they'd bring them back sometimes in satisfying ways, and
you went, how many do you okay? For Ben Barnes
immediately being a slut. Okay, Yes, this man mediusual tension
with anything at all, and it is good when a
(33:09):
film or series recognizes that. Yeah, yeah, badge for the narration.
This immediately starts with some hard core narration from do
you know Who's the narrator? I looked it up well.
I thought, I was like, this sounds sort of like Jumbledore. Ope, no, oh,
Then I'm thinking it sounds like what's his name? Uh?
(33:30):
From Lord of the Ringdale gandal a common mix up, frequent,
very understandable, Old White Wizard, long White.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, it sounded like a familiar and it was Ian McKellen.
M This movie had everyone badge for the costumes. I
thought they were so creative and fun. They were so
good at being like, yeah, period era fantasy piece, but
also having their own little quirks. You're so right. The
wardrobe was great, was great. When she was even her
(34:02):
little star outfit, I was like, yeah, she's a star,
She's a star. They made it. They made it durable
and simple enough that she could wear it for the
whole thing for most of the time. But you know,
she didn't look like everybody else. She looked like she
came from the sky. Okay. Badge for living with your
parent I love when they do that, when grown people
(34:24):
live with their parents in because it just makes so
much sense financially. A badge for costume detail. The brothers
costumes all have their numerals on them, like Septimus's buttons
all had the seven on them. H and there were
often like Roman numerals woven. Yeah, through love it. Badge
(34:45):
for the way he flies in when he uses the
Babylon candle. That made me laugh out loud. That was
so funny. He's absolutely still flying at the speed of light.
You only see it for a second, and then he
smashes into a beautiful star. Yeah. Badge for the scenery. Oh,
it was so beautiful and it was so varied. Yeah,
(35:09):
the scenery was do you know where they shot it? Outside?
Badge for a fierce witch. I love that vibe. She
was in it so much. She was just Michelle Pfeiffer
brought something special to this role. I loved her. Mmm.
Badge for I like it when a horse wears a
(35:29):
little feather on its head. Four horses pulling a carriage
all had big plumes on their heads, and I love that.
I really love that. Again, the one. I think that
was them trying to be unicorns. Maybe that's so sad.
You're perfect the way you are. Badge for Ricky Gervais
(35:54):
in this hat. Not for Ricky Gervais. Okay, he's a
bummer and just his vibe I don't enjoy, but ugly
seeing him in this hat, I was like, this is
the very funniest version of you. I don't get why
you're not doing this all the time. No, he's too
busy being transphobic, isn't he He is a horrible person.
But that hat was so large. That is the funniest hat.
(36:19):
I've never seen him look like that in any way,
shape or form. Eh Oh. A badge for the world
building obviously fantasy realm, very fun, very very much, a
lot to play with. But also they remind you that
you're in the nineteenth century, not just like Middle Ages fantasy,
because when the space when the sky pirates come in
(36:42):
their ship is partly made out of wood, but it's
also partly made out of iron, to show you that
that's the year you're in that era industrial. Even though
this was magical, they did place us in time, like
when they mentioned the gold Rush. A badge for places.
I'll go to the gold Rush and fetch you gold
(37:03):
San Francisco. I'll go to the gold rush where this
is currently that is currently occurring right now that well,
bet you gold now mm hmm there be gold in them. Yeah,
and then he became sort of prospector Core. It's really weird.
I have a badge for a bath with a headrest. Later,
she's taking a bath and it looks so comfortable. She
(37:24):
has a head mirror head lean. Why aren't they all
like that? I miss those giant baths that were big
bronze turens. Yeah. Badge for killing Ricky Gervaise. That deserves
that was meant to happen. Nice, get him out of here.
Badge for I put a badge for these women flirting
(37:46):
even though the witch was trying to kill her. There
was a sense of my roommates and I watching it
thought it was very funny that Claire Danes when she
enters this in and this woman is like, come on,
I'm gonna give you a sage and all she's just
being so nice to her. She's so hot and being
so nice, and Claire is like, okay, that sounds great. Yeah,
Like the only way that she could logically be okay
(38:09):
with all the stuff happening. Is she if she is
if she is like openly having a flirtation with Michelle Pfeiffer,
which like, yeah, if that makes sense, you should do
that in a tavern. Absolutely everyone looks good in that lighting.
I got I wrote, long coat, flowy hair, very badge, Yeah,
(38:31):
Tristan's makeover, really good stuff, some really good stuff in there.
Badge for this is a little two thousand and seven.
But also it just it was cute when the crew
was like, you'll always be a captain captain yeah, because
they accept him for who he is and what he
likes to do in his free time, and they accept
(38:53):
him for all of his wonderfulness. It was really cute.
I think that scene walked so the gay Pirate Show
could run, you know, totally totally. Someone went, I want
to see more of that? Where if that please? Badge
for it. When Tristan is a mouse and Claire Danes
is like, can you carry give me a sign and
(39:14):
the mouse just looks at the cheese over her shoulder,
I loved that. I loved that so much. I also
laughed so much when she said I think I love
you and then it cut to a mouse, a mouse
with nothing going on in its brain. That is so funny.
Oh yeah, my final badge is for this fight scene,
(39:37):
believe it or not, this whole big epic fight scene.
This movie really succeeded in doing epic things. Yes, the
the air drowning, though disturbing, was really cool. The later
using a corpse to fight him was very cool. All
of the chandelier stuff was just like they just kept
(39:57):
building very well. They were building. Yes, then she's like,
I'm it's over. I'm not actually gonna kill you, just kidding.
Of course I'm gonna kill you. That was cool, good
little bit. It was really well done. Yes, a badge
for Oh my gosh, Charlie Cox is a very fast runner.
That man was sparrinted. I was impressed. There was some
(40:20):
physical prowess on display there that was notable. And my
final badge is a badge for some really good physical
work here, which is of course, during the corpse sword fight.
Whoever that actor was doing that corpse sword fighting was
so good. I know, I thought that was very very fun. Mmm.
(40:45):
Tragis trags oh, a trage for problematic unethical sourcing of diamonds. Yeah.
Well when he's like, go to Africa and get you
in time, and I was like, okay, first of all,
we're in Africa. He also was like, no, you will not.
(41:05):
It was very nineteenth century. It was colonial. Yeah, problematic.
I have a trage for he calls her a stupid
cow when they go like that was so out of
left field. He's traveling with this mystical star stating insult. Yeah,
(41:26):
he's fat, He's going around with his mystical star. And
then they use the Babylon candle to go home, but
they both imagine their own home and so they end
up in the sky. Yeah, and he calls her a
stupid cow, which I'm like, there was something kind of
genuinely tragic about that, where it's like, first of all,
she is a star, and but you have been She's
(41:46):
a human woman to you, and the way you treat
human women is by using this insult that is like
so weirdly used against women, which is calling them a
cow and not just a cow, a stupid cow, not
just any cow. Oh, a trage for Americans doing British accents.
They did their best, but who were the main ones?
(42:09):
Michelle Pfeiffer and Claire Danes. Yeah, yeah, I was like,
all right, I mean, you look wonderful, and for the
most part it's okay. But trage for I think this
is another trage where he just suddenly is very disrespectful
and I'm like, sorry, what he looks When she's taking
(42:30):
a bath, he opens those I'm not actually looking. I'm
not looking. She's like, I'm completely naked, Please don't be
present in my bathroom. Yeah. I guess they get away
with it because minutes later they're boning. But absolutely, it
was just it was suddenly disrespectful and I couldn't. I
(42:50):
was surprised at his behavior. It's not good when a
man is suddenly disrespectful. A trage for the mother has
not aged. They Recaph's an old British man and they
kept the same actress from when they were eighteen and
just put a little streak of gray. She had like
three gray strands. It was crazy. They didn't what the
(43:12):
fuck This movie used so many prosthetics. Also, they had
the technology. We know that. Yeah, that was annoying. My
final tragedy is for how rude he was to Sienna Miller.
It had been an entire it had been like two
hours since we last saw her, So whatever rudeness that
(43:35):
she gave before, like I had forgotten about it, So
all of a sudden, all we're really feeling at this
point is that he randomly he leaves Claire Danes. He
leaves Clare Danes, Yeah, goes to see Sienna Miller, and
he like pretends to be into her for a second,
just so he can drop her on the ground. And
you're like, I actually don't remember her that well, so
it seems like you're just being really rude to a
(43:56):
woman for some reason. Yeah, but I think she was
kind of an an a hole. For sure, she was,
but also they didn't make her such an a hole
that I felt really strong negative feelings to her. So
it just felt like it was just a little bit
too rude, like, especially for his character being very the
idea is that he's very kind of sensible and sweet
and gallant. Yes, so you'd think perhaps he would be like,
(44:20):
you know, I found someone else, I hope the best
for you, But instead he dropped a woman on the ground.
I don't know. Yeah, oh my god. When Henry Cavill
rounds the corner and tries to swort fight him, and
then Tristan pulls out his sword in a very hot way,
and Henry Cavill just goes, ah, that's so funny. That
was really funny. Henry Cavill was hilarious in this movie.
(44:43):
What was he? I know? He was really funny? Is
he up to? It was really goofy ooh. A trage
for the inferences that the pirate the Sky Pirates make
are really fucked up. There were so many allusions to
assaulting a woman throughout Clare Danes's time on that pirate ship.
(45:08):
Hmmm it made me very sad. Yeah, yeah, that was
like whoa, yeah, WHOA. A trage for Ricky Gervais. And
my final trage is it's a trage for it is
fucked up that his mom doesn't get to be the ruler.
She's the long lost princess, but it has to go
(45:30):
to the firstborn or the next born male heir. Yeah,
they don't say anything about that. Again, this is very
two thousand and seven in that, Like, I feel like
two years later they would have at least made a comment. Yeah,
once Obama had been inaugurated, a comment would have been made.
It just feels like they we were itching to hear
a comment on it, but they did it. Yeah, and
it was very so if this was based off a book,
(45:53):
it felt very book Yeah for literature, Yeah, it wasn't.
It just it just seems like retail because it was
kind of because it did stuff like being like we
still love you, captain, you know. Yeah, it seems like
they would have something that would be like, yes, queen,
in the next life you'll have it'll be your kingdom girl. Yeah. Yeah,
But they didn't even have the decency to pretend like
(46:15):
women had, that there was any sort of respect for
the the ladies in this Yeah. Hmm, shall we Leanna Noe?
Oh my god, you did that before? I know. Why
does it keep happening? Also, you're in my Google docs
(46:38):
as an anonymous blobfish. That's very that's very rude. Not as
rude as stupid cow Sienna. We simply must let's Babbylon
candle ourselves into our next segment. How to pretend you've
seen this film? This is for hmm, you are at
(47:01):
a tavern. You're at a pub. Oh yeah, you are
in a tavern. It is pouring rain outside. Mm hmmm,
you're in a warm, old tavern. I don't know. Septimus. Septimus,
Septimus flies into you of thin air. Barrel's right into you.
(47:22):
He goes Wow, says being in a warm tavern when
it's raining outside resid of this movie that I saw
a long time ago. My girlfriend dragged me to it,
stupid cow and and from the back of the tavern
you hear. Hey. There were a few things about this
movie though, that were actually pretty cool, Like this guy's
(47:44):
legs break and stuff, and like he says some cool
badass things to girls, and like walks in on her
in the bathroom and kills things. And uh, but I'm
gonna tell you about so many there's like so many
cool facts about this movie. And I can't wait to
tell you. I don't want to hear a thing about
if you have any associations with it. I'm just gonna
tell you about it right now. And in order to
air drown out the sound of Septimus, we're gonna give
(48:05):
you a few sentences you can say to pretend you've
seen the film Stardust. Oh my god, yes, Septimus, I've
seen Stardust. I don't need to be told about it
by some magical flying moron. Wow. Oh, this is kind
of cute. Actually, wow, this was this is this piece
(48:27):
of trivia is like a reason why this movie I
think was very effective. Yes, Septimus, I've seen star Dust.
So as we were talking about Ben Barnes, who plays
the dad, he was the preferred choice for Tristan for
(48:50):
a lot of people. When when I first saw him,
I was like, why isn't he the star? Mm? He
looks like a star. And the director intentionally chose Cox, who, yes,
was then unknown as we felt like he doesn't seem
known because he wanted to choose an actor who could
play a dork, who could easily transition into a suave
(49:12):
and handsome gentleman, and that is exactly what he did.
Oh my gosh. If he started out too hot and hunky,
then the transition would be nothing. But he was able
to play both. I can't see Ben Barnes as a dork,
not once, not for even a second. Anyway, That's cute,
that's very being not believing Carry Grant could portray a
yeah whatever sexless nerves. Yeah. Oh my god, Septimus, I've
(49:36):
seen Stardust and no, I don't think we're having a moment.
Oh yeah, because nothing says romance like the gift of
a kidnapped injured woman, and you've kidnapped me into the
conversation after injuring me by flying into me out of
the sky. I brought you this injured woman. Will you
marry me?
Speaker 2 (49:57):
What?
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Yeah? He's like, huh yeah, yes, Septimus, I've seen Stardust.
This is also about Charlie Cox. Nobody wanted him to
play Tristan because they're like, you should make it like
Orlando Bloom or somebody that people already know and love.
And Matthew Vaughn, the director, was like, no, I'm not
doing that. But what he did to make it up
(50:18):
to Paramount Pictures is he cast Robert de Niro, Michelle
Pfeiffer and Claire Danes. Wow or like as soon as
they cast them, they were like, all right, fine, you
can do this, fine, Rando, But this is just funny
to me generally, because they're like, when he pitched the
movie to executives at Paramount Picture, but again, what could
he have possibly pitched. I'm sure they heard the whole
(50:42):
thing and they're like, can you at least put Orlando
Bloom in it? Yeah? That was a good sort of
band aid to a film back in again. Put Orlando
Bloom in it. See if that? If that helps, Oh, Septimus,
stop and get out of the tub. It's my turn
to use it. And then Septimus is like, what, why
don't you want to talk more about movies? And I
(51:04):
look him dead in the eye and I say, honey,
you're wearing a bathrobe. What, yes, Septimus, I've seen Stardust.
Fun fact, Charlie Cox suffered a minor injury while filming
the climactic battle sequence against the Witches when a huge,
(51:25):
solidified vase knocked him unconscious. I remember that. What I
remember that huge vase? Yeah? So are they saying that
knocked him unconscious in the movie, right, or are they
saying that he actually got knocked unconscious? Wait read the
fact again. Was he knocked unconscious ever in the movie? No,
(51:49):
he kind of just gets back up after the vase.
So I think he genuinely was knocked unconscious during the
filming and they listed it as a minor injury, which
is crazy. To get knocked unconscious is insane. Oh my gosh,
that you have to get knocked so hard to get
knocked unconscious. Boy, a light as a feather love him,
(52:12):
and now that you have dethroned Septimus out of your life,
we can cross the wall into our next segment, should
you watch this or where we tell you if we
think you should watch this movie or if you should
do something else with your twinkle time twinkle time. Leanna,
(52:35):
what do you think? Oh? Yeah, oh yeah, you can
watch Stardust. It's it's a hoot. It's so fun. It's
almost everything that I want in a fantasy film. Wow,
uh huh, totally. How about you, Siena? I will say
you could watch Stardust. It is a banger, and it
has some sort of two thousand and seven charm that
(52:57):
maybe I have nostalgia for. But something about the filming
was very comforting, and there were some really epic and
very creative and imaginative moments. Yes, I would say, I
would say, why not if you have two hours and
seven minutes and you want to hang around with your
(53:17):
friends and watch a Bonker's film. It's it's quite delightful,
so fun. Pay troll tool, patro tool. I'm patro tool. Well, Leanna,
what would you rate the film? M Stardust? I would
give Stardust four point five bin bonds out of five
Ben Bonds of course the nickname that New Zealanders have
(53:39):
for Ben Barns because when they say his name in
their accent, it sounds like bin Bonds, Bomban Bonds. I
a nearly perfect film, but it does lose that that
bit for all of the really uncomfy like insinuations of
(53:59):
violence to violence against women. Yeah, on that pirate ship
that was really really unsettling. Yeah, but the rest of it. Wow, See,
I know what would you rate the film? Start us?
I will give it four point two little elephants at
the beginning those did not come back. That was possibly
(54:22):
the most whimsical thing in the film, Two tiny little
elephants in a cage, Yeah, out of five. Similarly, there
are some moments where its two thousand and sevens, particularly
in like it's not that big of a thing itself,
but it speaks to a quiet acceptance of being really
disrespectful two women. Yeah, uh, just as like a as
(54:49):
kind of just a as just sort of a trope
and that's kind of it's unsettling on a level about
where a culture was at. But truly, also, did we
see a single person? I was also gonna say, and
like it's two thousand and seven and some big choice
so four point two because it's doing and mainly what
(55:10):
it gets points for is it's doing what it's doing
really well. I'm impressed. Yes, yep, so that has been
starred us. Thank you so much Leanna for bringing start us.
You're freaking welcome my life. I'd never heard of that before.
Speaker 4 (55:27):
Yay.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
Well, thank you everyone so much for tuning in. We've
been Tossed Popcorn. We're off the next couple weeks, taking
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We'll get knocked out of the sky by a necklace
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