February 18, 2025 • 57 mins
Ba BA ba DOOK! DOOK! DOOK! Pop up for menacing mums, clamorous kids, and a queer icon. The person most confused by the film this week was: the kindly neighbour hearing all those sounds.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Toss Popcorn is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yes uh Hi, I'm Sienna Jacob and I'm Leanna Holsten,
and welcome to Toss Popcorn, the podcast where two idiots
watched every film on the AFI's one hundred Greatest American
Movies of All Time, the very slightly less racist tenth
(00:30):
Anniversary edition. That's what we were doing for quite some time,
and now that we're finished with that, we are watching
movies directed by women.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
This podcast is a safe Baba Duck for people who
don't know anything about movies.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Rape point. Today we're watching The Babba Duck.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Doctor warning there will be spoilers about this Baba duck
old film and great point.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Again, it's now a proper noun, an adjective. Herb She's everything.
She is kidding.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
The Baba Duck is obviously non binary. They are everything.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh. I can't wait to talk to you about this movie.
I have to talk. We must talk.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
But before that, Sianna, could I please hear your projection?
Let's let's do it bad.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
My fucking music app. It is so the Babba Duck
to come up on my music app instead of Hi, Leanna,
this is cia. I'm about to watch laundry to watch
the Baba Duke.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I have seen this movie before, but it's been a
long time. I predict that our protagonist lady gets scared
by a top hatted.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Monster on the ceiling. Yeah, I love you, goodbye. It
was all coming back to me and I was like,
I think that's right. Yeah, I think that's correct. Though
there was so much I did not recall about this movie,
Like I thought it was gonna be like this little
like top hatted ghoul chasing her around the house like
(02:37):
the whole time, and that's really not what it is.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
No, honestly, I wish that would have been.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
The sequel.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well, Sienna, here is my prediction for the Babba Duke.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I would love to hear it.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Hi, Sienna, it's Yanna. I'm about to watch the Baba Duck.
I don't know anything about this except the Baba Duck
is a queer icon. I predict I might, I might
be very scared. And there's a child.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Yeah, I forgot about that. It's about I literally forgot
there was a kid there. Maybe they like got a friend,
or they have to banish it, or maybe the Baba
Duck is like.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
The kid's dad.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I don't know. I love you by so you've never
seen it? No, why did the queer community latch onto this?
Uh this? Hmmm? You know, I think it was just
so much less.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I think it was less.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Why and more why not? Yeah, totally totally, you know,
And even upon saying that out loud, like I know why,
I feel like, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Know, let's let's call a spade a spade and content
warning for the C word here. The Baba Duck serves
cons it's true.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
What's to be true? Beyond they're wearing a top hat.
They are jazz, the hand saying they are old, they
are made, They are a cunty leathery icon. They don't
do too much like they have some respect for themselves
in terms of presentation, you know, like they aren't doing
anything too like they're kind.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Of just like, Yeah, the Baba Duck is jazz.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
The Baba is jazz. The Bobadock is actually quite a
lot like Liza Minellie. If you step back, there's a
lot they have in common. And there are people out
there who knew that right away. Maybe there's time. Okay,
(04:48):
though I had seen it, there was so much, like
I said, I didn't remember the child and as soon
as the child should have like, oh yeah, of course obviously.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
So every film in order to be spooky must have
a child.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
We will discuss it, but after we say, after we talk,
Hey girl, hey girl, you told me the first Oh
I'm doing you first. Unfortunately, find is sorry, this is
the first meal you've made for yourself in a week.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Oh and we're outing that. Okay, just just air me
on the pods worries. We actually will get to that
on on my phone notes as well. Yes, I finally
cooked the ingredients that I bought. It's so hard to
cook the ingredients that you bought. It is because you
buy them and then you are hungry immediately every day
(05:43):
for something that doesn't require preparing ingredients.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Totally.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
So finally today I cooked the ingredients that I bought.
I want to say Monday totally. Well, to speaks to
Saturday right now, it speaks to you. Oh thank you.
We'll say that. Not a mental health thing at all.
Well it doesn't know, but yes, I finally prepared a meal.
(06:10):
I have energy. I'm sure you could hear in my
voice in the prediction section that was pre shorking a meal.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, oh my god. Girl, it's the day.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Sorry to date this episode, but it is currently the
day after Valentine's Day, and my big plan was to
hit the stores for the sales of the Sweet Genius
of the Little Treats the morning after TM and I
went straight to m and S, which is like the
fancy grocery store, to buy their stupid Valentine themed chocolates
(06:42):
and there was nothing.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
They threw them in the garbage.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I don't know. I don't know where the hell they
put that. So because according to m Ands, it is
the night before Easter right now, and a little bit
of pancake mixed in, which is like a weird day
in March where they have that they considered to be
pancakes and they're not pancakes.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That's so weird.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It was so cursed. So I did that, and then
I went to Waitrose, an also fancy store, to get
their Valentine leftovers.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
So when I went to Sainsbury's, the people's store, also nothing.
And I texted my flatmate and I was like, the
L the levels of L that I just took cannot
be defined.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That is crazy. That is crazy. It's like, oh, alone
on Valentine.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Whatever you know what's another What's what's the twenty eighth
Valentines of doing that? We're that's old hat, we're used to.
That's fine, we know how to do it. The the famously,
the perk of being single on Valentine's Day is the
day after you get to go buy all the candy
for cheap.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
What That may be the only thing I've ever heard
of America doing better? Uh huh, because they're there's always garbage.
I yearned.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Oh my god, I was craving a CVS. Wow, I
felt so at sea. That is so crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
It was.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
It was a moment where I was like, Wow, I
really am in a foreign country. I'm in a foreign
land because this what's happening is fucked.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
What's the point but the point of that? Did you
go and look into their garbage cans their dumpsters? No?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I think that would have been a step down too far.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
My head is in Bob a Duck world. Also, I
just watched Hereditary on my birthday.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
For some reason, Wow, I was thinking about that movie
while watching this movie.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Have you ever seen that movie? No? But I've read
the Wikipedia talks so much about how scary it is.
I thought it was more just like a good movie.
I don't know, I get confused about what's scary. Oh
my god, I'm so excited to talk about this film
with you. Anyway, Hey girl, Hey girl. It was just
my birthday, belated birthday. I was so sick. I was
(09:00):
very sick. I was in denial until yesterday was the
first day. I was like, I need to just be
in bed all day. I just have to. I've been
sick for a very long time. But my birthday party
was the night before my birthday. By the time it
hit about ten pm, I was like, oh, I'm not
just tired. Something is happening and I need to be
in bed as soon as possible. And something has changed.
(09:22):
Oh my god, I don't think I told you this.
I had to actually ask them to leave.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, that happened to me and my flat might Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I put my pajamas on it two in the morning,
I changed out of my party dress. I put my
pajama a still I could.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I could tell we were heading towards two in the
morning territory because like, around eleven PM, someone went to
get rolling papers for weed and I was like, I'm
really happy. You feel safe for my home and another day.
I would like love this to be like an up
all night chatting thing, but I can tell I am
dying and I need this to be done. So at
a certain point I went, hey, guys, I'm going to
(09:58):
bed in fifteen minutes, just so you know. You can
do what you want. Yeah, but I'll be asleep in there.
But what I didn't tell them was that I was
dying because I think I was getting sick. And then
on my birthday, Kelsey and I went to get pastries,
which is great, but I was sitting in line for
(10:19):
pastries and I was like, oh, oh, I can't be out,
I can't be standing up. Oh, I can't be standing
any more. And then I ate an egg burrito, but
turns out I had a lot of ham in it,
and something about the idea of ham really turned my
stomach and I had to stop eating everything, and then
I went to sleep.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Oh but welcome to twenty eight. To mama, yeah, every
day is exactly like that.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I'm kidding. You were just ill. I was very ill,
but I'm still not. I'm getting over it now, but
you can tell I have sick voys.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
But you know, oh, Sienna, Papa, could you please ba
ba ba ba bad bade. Could you please give us
a synopsis of the Babadke?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yes, this is pretty literal, and I apologize Baba Duke.
The Baba Duke, Amelia struggles to manage the loss of
her late husband, who died the day her son, Samuel
was born, about seven years ago. It starts to affect
the family by this point, and Samuel is being a
really weird kid who is obsessed with monsters and weapons.
(11:29):
The two of them find a picture book about a
scary top hatted monster called the Baba Duke. It takes
over their home and then Amelia when she lets him
in one day, sorry, when she lets them in one day,
the Baba Duke really makes everything horrible and Amelia becomes
so scary. In the end, they learn to manage the
(11:53):
Baba Duke just as one manages grief, and she and
her son finally become close and at peace. The end. Yeah,
that ending was so girl coded and I loved it.
I was like, I won't made this. I would have
made this absolute donk.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
A woman wrote and directed this, and can I tell
you it was so good? Yeah, Okay, I couldn't tell
what that was gonna be it's really we have to
just eat ourselves right into phone notes. Hello, everyone, welcome
to phone no Where. It's really not far off from
our et impression no Bug Dunk Dunk.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Where we talked about the notes we took on our
phone while watching the film. Leona can't wait to hear
what you thought about this, so glad it sounds like
you're into it. Your first note, unfortunately, is off. I
go to does thedog die dot com. They did it.
They did it. They snapped that dog's neck, and I
didn't kill the dog. I guess I remember nothing except
(12:59):
for must I must.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I'm eternally grateful for the website does thedog die dot
com because as soon as there is a dog or
any sort of beloved creature on screen, I go straight there.
I say, excuse me, hello, and the website says, yes, Mama,
you're gonna want to close your eyes from minute one
to nine to one. From our one to nine to
one eleven of the film, can I say and thank you,
(13:22):
thank you for letting me know.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
So.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Unfortunately for me, the movie was canceled right from the beginning.
I watched it, but I was like, well, you killed
the dog, so I don't know what to tell you,
but I gotta say it won me back.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Really yeah, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
The ending, The ending got me back. And you see,
I know your first note and thank you for your consideration.
You wrote you simply must hate this child.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
It's really about a kid being a little freak. Yeah,
did you hate him? Yeah? Or medium?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I saying I hated that child feels like hate speech. Oh,
because that child is so clearly on the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh, I wouldn't see it that way.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Oh yeah, that child is saying everything that comes to
his mind. He is interpreting things very literally. Sure, he's
not responding.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
To social cues.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
That kid has a splash of the tism and that's fine.
On top of that, that kid is annoying as well.
But the other kid sucks. I hated that kid. That
kid was shouting constantly and making your life. Had a
terrible haircut, and may I say was ugly? The kid
(14:42):
was ugly. I don't know what to tell you. What
are you about to say?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I didn't There were moments where I thought that this
kid was I guess, very cute. He pulled my heart
strings a number of times, like when he's like.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Okay, mommy, I was just really hungry. God, I was like,
shut up, let her take a nap.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
If it's in a word or if it's in a podcast,
you can't get rid of the baba Dad break, We'll
be right back. Are there so many memes? Are there
so many memes from this movie because it's so iconic.
Some of the lines idea, yeah, yeah, I didn't realize
(15:26):
that either. One of the lines when when he's like, Mommy,
I'm hungry after she turns all monstrous because the Baba
duck has taken over her and she goes hungry, Why
don't you just ate shit? That's a meme? No, it
just seemed memable. I don't know. Oh, I don't know.
I don't know that many memes.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
That classic meme of a mother yelling at her son
to eat shit?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Maybe so much? Eight ship. Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Can I say something that's a little bit anti Australian.
It was hard to take this movie seriously because it
had Australians.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Go and watch A day A day. Mommy, I said,
go and watch a day they day And I'm sorry,
darn't don't let it in, don't lead it in, don't
let it in so Okay, all scary movies had that
(16:27):
edge because for our ears, it's a little bit like
of like a fun it's like a game of understanding
what's happening. Or also sometimes it does sound very funny,
and sometimes it doesn't, but sometimes it does, and that
makes it a little bit more of a comforting experience
to watch, I think, than just disgusting American accents. That's true.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I'm glad it wasn't Americans.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
You've said, in a surprise to no one, I have
muted the film.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Well does the Dog Die? Came in clutch by forewarning
me of the other sort of moments of horror slash
gore ish that would be in the film, But unfortunately
that meant that I was expecting them to happen at
any time. Yeah, because the website and spoiler alert everybody,
the things of sort of body horror that happen are
(17:14):
she pulls out her tooth and a guy's head gets
sliced in half, is how it was worded on the website,
and then she gets stabbed, And so for every minute
of the one hour thirty I was like, somebody might
be about to pull out a tooth, so let me
just preemptively mute the film. I'd say, all that happened
in the final eight minutes of the film, I know,
and I wish does the dog die head? Let me
(17:36):
know that, because I didn't need to be muting a
minute eighteen really not like a gratuitous movie all throughout
at all. In fact, I wonder if it was low budget,
because they don't. It's all a lot of like ideas
or her life is just like getting freakier. And for
a while I realized, you don't even know what the
(17:56):
monster is yet You're like, is the kid a monster?
He's so freaky, and then she starts acting weird and
then you only see the Baba Duke a couple of times.
That it's always like in shadow, it's not like lots
of disgusting things happening.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I mean there are bugs at some point. Yeah, besides that,
it's mostly them just being weirdos spooky spooky. Yes, you
said it's so funny that the Babaduke. This is so true, Leona.
You said, it's so funny that the Baba Duke wrote
a cunty pop up book about themselves. I love this.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
So for anybody who's not seen the film, the way
that Babaduk is introduced is this random children's book shows
up on the weird freak child's bookshelf and the child's like,
I want to I don't read this one for bed.
And it's a pop an illustrated pop up book, hand
lettered that tells the story, the backstory of the Babaduk
(18:51):
and introduces them as a concept. And I love that
this demon is out there like cutting out a paper
outline of themself, illustrating a self portrait, making them into
a pop up format where you can pull a tab
and the hand way. I'm obsessed with that. I wish
every movie villain, especially like horror film Monster, had to
(19:16):
introduce themselves in a creative craft when it.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Takes some art direction, Oh, it takes it makes it
is it like introduces yourself.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
It comes to Freddy Krueger shows up as like a collage.
It's kind of like Jason that like sword Guy shows
up as like a sticker journal. He sticker journals himself
into somebody's nightmares.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
You know, yeah, totally totally love that. It takes a
little bit of work. It's like when uh, you know,
at the beginning of of RuPaul's Supermodel where he like
tells a little story about like himself, like yeah, you
know in the Brewster Projects or whatever. It's like that.
It's like, let me introduce myself a little bit before
(19:58):
I enter your space. Get a little introduction like, hey,
I'm the Baba, a bit about me. You let me
in once, I'm gonna go duke, and then you're gonna
let me in. And that's exactly what's gonna happen. Yeah.
The only thing that would be better if they had
a little theme song.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Oh that was what this was missing. They needed a
like what they do on drag Race exactly like but
for the Baba Duck. I'm sure people that just calls me.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Why can't you just be normal? A classic meme?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Sienna, you noted OMG the art department that made that
book watching it get destroyed and I so you had
that While that was happening, I was like, yes, Mama.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
BBQ the bb Duck. That's good, thank you BBQ the
Baby Dook.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I also couldn't believe they didn't say anything about like
the Babba Book. Yeah, this introduces themselves via the Baba Book.
I could have been having some fun. They needed to
have a little laugh a little giggle.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
The Bible dock a baby key, the Bobba Book.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And let me say apologies to Australia for this episode.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I was gonna say, we're being insane, and I answer
being insane huge.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
But because I live with the Babba Duck.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And Leona does live with the Baba Duke by.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
The way, yeah, it's not my fault. The Babaduk lives
in my laundry basket.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Oh, Leon, a great point. You said we need a
stethoscope that detects demons. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Every horror film with a spooky child that they take
to the doctor, the doctor's like, well, all the tests
came back normal. And I was like, well, why didn't
you test for demons?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
If the parent could be like, could you actually use
the demon scope? And they do go, oh yep, they're
demons in here.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
They need like a cat scan.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
But for demons.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
There's a demon in here an MRI. But the M
stands for my God. That's the demon. You know, Yeah, totally, Leoni.
You've also said rar x D the Baba Duke. Oh
that's so the babaduks vibe that ran.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, the Babaduk is just like they see them for
the first time. They're like crawling around the ceiling and
then they just come down, kind of come down like, yeah,
they're like a ring leader at a circus. Yeah, yeah,
they are, is what they.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Really reminder that that's the career they were meant to have.
Totally that poor Baba Duck is in the wrong line
of work. They don't need to be haunting. They need
to be going and hosting Cirq de sole.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
One thing I don't think I even wrote down is
the imagine I'm sorry, imagine the Baba Duke m seeing
Cirque de Solay. Oh my gosh. They'd be perfect. That
is what they're made for.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Absolutelyact they wouldn't even.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Stand out there. We'd all be like, no, you you belong, Like.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Oh yes, it's served disles Kuza. You don't hosted the
embodiment of grief at all. You're simply just somebody fit
for your job who's embodying Liza Manelli in a speak
in a spookier you.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Know, sort of drag circus. Yea, yes, exactly. You know.
What I didn't even write down, but I was thinking
all throughout is that the television programs will kind of
lit in this like this Australian public television. Every channel
she changes too is something like interesting and insane. It's
like either alle classic old television, like it's either the
(23:43):
Phantom of the Opera yeah, or like Circus.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
TV yeah, because it was all programmed by the Babba Duck.
I love by the way of the concerting themselves in
media throughout history. It's like, and here was my cameo
in Trip to the Moon, the first ever film. Here,
of course, I can be spotted in the Wizard of Oz. Yeah,
(24:08):
Oh my god. The Baba Duck is a producer. The
Babba Duk should have gotten an EP credit on this
film for sure. Yeah, produced by the Babba Duck.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
The Bamba Duke. Kiss Kiss.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Oh my gosh, Siena, Oh, how spooky for you. You wrote
her jaw hurts and she's sleepy and time moves wrong.
She literally is me. I found her so relatable at
certain points also.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Did the jaw hurts? Oh, and then she'll like kind
of like be sitting there and then she looks up
and it's been nine hours. That's how I feel all
the time. Oh my god, that's what it's like to
be me. I'm sitting there. My jaw hurts, and I
look over in three hours of past and I'm like,
what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Hell?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I feel very related to her in that the way
that she's coming apart at the seems is how I
feel waiting for my visa application decision.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
She's just like, please let me nap. I'm so tired.
I just need to nap for five years. And then
she has ice cream for dinner and I was like, hello,
same walls.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, Leana, you've said all cops are bobadoks.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
She goes to the station to report that she's being stopped,
and behind the police officer, the Boba Duke outfit is
hung up on the wall. I said, A cab, a cab.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
We know your secret, we know your secret. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
It reminded me of did you ever have that book?
That book about that woman who's a teacher and she
hates her students because they're all so poorly behaved. So
she leaves and she dresses up as a witch whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, that is she comes back as the bad That
is what she does. Yeah, but her outfit is very
Baba duck coded. That's true. It is m hmm, it
really really is.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
The Baba Duck really is all around. I love the
Baba duck. I love the idea it's from love. Actually
love actually is all around. The actually is all around.
I think if you go to heath Throw Terminal five,
you'll find the Boba duck actually is.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I love the baba duck. Duck is also just oh
my god, dreaming that the boy Sana you wrote he's
home aloning the baba duck like genuinely, yeah, well like
little Jerry rigged things. He's like, I will say, one
(26:56):
thing I did love about this kid is that this
kid like does understand monsters on another level. This kid
is like, by the way, Mom, the Baba do is
inside of you. And she's like, no, it's not. And
he's like, no, it is. And I know you're not
my mom, You're the bobba duck right now. Yeah, just
really sweet. Actually, he's like, there's something mom, there's something
else going. This isn't you. I can tell this isn't you.
And he helps her by setting up a series of
(27:17):
traps in the basement.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yes, slapping her in the legs, legs and tying her
up and it's really scary.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And then at a certain point of throw up. She's
sort of like getting bonked and tripping, spinning and swirling
and like trips her, he bonks her. It is very
home alone. You're right, it's really funny.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Actually, Oh my god, imagine home alone six the Baba
duck ill versus the Baba duck.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
You've said yes, Mama, and then you've said okay, Mama
too much.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
At first when she was like, leave me alone, I
want to nap, Please let me alone. Yeah, because this
kid has not shut up for one hour. But then
she yelled at the child and was.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Like, you should eat shit. And I was like, well, no,
that is too far. What's wrong with me? That that
you should eat shit? Made me laugh out loud? Oh god,
it made me laugh. I really don't like the concept
of eating shit. It just her like it's so visceral. Wow,
I guess that doesn't that doesn't it doesn't apply to
me as some an actual image. It's just like such
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a mean thing to say to your cage your kids,
like I'm hungry, And she's like, while, whana you just
ate shit? That's so mean. It very yeah, it's so funny.
That's like the worst response ever. He's like, no, I
was just hoping for a meal. I'm a child. I
literally can't feed myself. She goes, why are you always
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talk talk talking, And I was like, the Bobbadook, the Bobbadook,
using the Bobbadocks, this is a parallel, parallel structure. Oh yes,
talk talk talking whatever.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I am bic pentameter. But for the Baba Duke, I
am book, I am book, I am dook, I am book,
I am book, I am babomed.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yep, she was using I am dook babomed, which is
written which I am. Yeah, Leanna, you said two freaks
jump scaring each other, and you've said Mama's bad day.
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Alternate title for the film Mama's Bound. Mama goes Baba
today Mama Duke.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Uh yeah, these two freaks when she's sneaking around the
house looking for her son because she's gone demon mode
and her son is hiding. But they're both such freaks
that it's unclear which of them is supposed to be
the jump scar. Yeah, And I was like, this house
is hell. Imagine you are a freak who lives with
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another freak, so every time you see each other, you're both.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Going oh yeah, by the way, exhausting The first half
of this movie is just the kid being weird and
people being like, your kid's a freak. I can't, I can't.
I can't stand being around your kid.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
He's such a funke a height being around him, I
don't want to and then want to be around your son.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
He's okay, okay, he's okay, it's okay, and then out
of a out of a treehouse and she's like, yeah,
breaks her face. He's not okay. It's like, sorry, mama's
bad day, colon, Mama's mad. Duke. You've said cat cow,
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she does cat cow? Yeah, yeah, that's really funny. That
cat cow, I bet, can be found in almost any
horror film. He knows Faratu we saw it in the Babad.
There's no way to expel anything from your body or
uh and what's the oppisode expell inhale inhale it into
your body except for cat cow in the scary movie. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I the next time I do cat cow, I'm gonna
be thinking about that. Leon those demons out pleaas Leoni.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
You've said the Babaduk is CPT.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I guess, well, well, I realized when it becomes clear
that it's about grief. It's like, oh, the Babaduk just
wants you to process your trauma. The Baba Duck is
literally cognitive processing therapy because I've done CPT and it's
like homework assignments each week that you like fill out,
and that's basically the Baba Duck is having you do
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a very intense homework assignment to process your grief by
event first of all bye bye, by sucking it in
and then terrorizing your child and then barfing it out.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah. I mean it's an extreme until he's your home
and then for the rest of your life, feeding at worms,
feed it worms, just as your homework.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I loved that scene you wrote. This is so obviously
made by women.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Lol.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
That scene at the very end when it like approaches
her and she gasps and then comes back and it's okay,
I got I have goosebumps just talking about.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
It right now. I cry.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
That really is what won me back In the end.
I was like, yeah, okay, all right, you got me.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So many scary movies are supposed to be like an
embodiment of some fear we have, and so like the
thing about the fears we have in real life is
that you kind of have to have some peace with them.
And grief is such a powerful one to I feel
like sometimes the Babaduck has talked about like, oh, yeah,
it's about grief, and so we already like we I
don't know, I had no idea. I knew it was
about a queer icon. I didn't know it was also
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I knew that about it. But it's almost kind of
like that's its gimmick sometimes is what like the way
that I've heard it And I don't know if that's true.
I don't have I don't know, but like I, I
think it's so powerful even if you know that it's
about that, because grief is such a scary thing that
we just have to experience in our life. It's just
like and such a different I love.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
The the message of like grief stays with you. Yeah,
you have to keep living with you. You can't get
rid of the baba duc, but you can find a
way to keep to keep going.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
To manage it, to put it somewhere. It's it's it's
And then when the.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Kids, like toll I ever meet them and she was
like when you're older, and I was like, oh my god,
that's also true, Like you will it comes for us
all like we do all go through that and experience that,
and again it doesn't go away. It stays with you forever.
But I love that, like illustration of grief, how it's
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like a big circle in your life and then it
stays that same size, but then your life right expands
around it. Right, your life becomes full with other things
as well. And that's also very the Baba Duck. Yeah,
we always are with the Baba Dook, but now she's
also got.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
In peace with it. It's not like the main thing
in her life. Like I also thought it was so
beautiful the ending where she's finally able to just stay
out loud, like, well, the reason for this is because
it's like, oh, well, you never celebrated your son's birthday before.
She's like, well, her, my son's father died that day,
so this is the first time we're doing it, or
your son.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
We must say, my son's incredibly hot, father, I know,
what the hell, let's discuss that. That has to be discussed.
I also wonder she was in mourning. Yeah, she lost dad.
Ass is your son being a little freak? Take a
few minutes off, because otherwise you're gonna start having mama's
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bad day, We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I thought it was so so sweet though, when she goes, oh,
I love when women make things when when they're like, oh, yeah, well,
three weeks is a long time to be out for kids,
because a lot of this movie also is her as
a single mom really struggling and everybody judging her, and
she's just like really having a hard time, and people
are getting tired of her shit and her like her
sadness and her disorganization, and they're like, oh, well, he's
(35:30):
been out of school for three weeks now, it's like
a long time. And she goes, we needed some time.
We needed some time because they needed some time, because
you just need some time to sort things out, to
deal with it because grief is a really hard thing.
Was so sweet. Yeah, she got some confidence around that,
like you said, like her life is growing around it.
But yeah, I just it. Really these are the kind
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of things where I'm like, oh, I get why you'd
make a horror movie out of this, because that is
just a dark part of life and it's like a struggle,
it's a battle. Hmmm. I love when women make things. Yes,
a scary movie that ends with her going sh the monster.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Work.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Oh my gosh, Lena, your final note is honestly work. Yeah, really, yes, yes,
Leona trages. Yes, where we give badges for Boba douk, Yeah,
of course, and trages for the traumas that are holding
us back in.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Process and process. Yes, Oh, I have a badge for
this is where the why can't you just be normal?
Meme comes from where she's yelling at her son in
the back seat and she goes, why can't you just
be normal? And it cuts to the sun and the
caption is just screaming.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I love that meme. Badge for oh, ending with compassion.
I love the ending so much as we just discussed
badge for oh.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
I guess this is kind of a badge for myself
because I was proud of this, this syntax of yes girl,
BBQ the bb dou Yeah, I love that badges were
It's so funny to put it on the barbecue on
the back. Yeah it is again, Sorry to Australia. Badge
for no gratuitous scares or they all come excuse me,
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they all come in like the last eight ish minutes again,
Like it's not just like a super disgusting movie, it's
all it's it's mostly psychological horror.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
A badge for the switch of perspective because for the
first half hour, Yeah, you're thinking that the sun is
the scary, crazy one and you're seeing it from the
mom's point of view, and then it switches and suddenly
you're kind of you're rooting for the sun, yeah, to
prevail against the demon possessed.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
That is such a good point. And then the last
it's subtle, but then it's sleigh. The very last second
switches to bobaduk Pov when they run down the stade. Yes,
I loved that as well.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
And I love the way that they don't show the
monster when it like comes yeah upon her in the basement.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
That was awesome.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Backs off her that also was really cool. Women Women badge.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
For Okay, I kind of loved her hair throughout this movie.
I don't know what it was doing it did it
look so good? I don't know. It was such a
fun shape. Also, it was like it was great big
on top and yeah she was she was slaying. I
don't know. It was so good.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
It was borderline of trage for me because I was like,
this is a woman at her wits end. How is
her hair constantly a blowout was like a cooler way
though it was not a color hip or a shape I.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Would Yeah, it was hip that I would have expected.
It wasn't just like beach waves. It was cool. No,
she's cool, very cool. Yeah, she's cool.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Man.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
My final badge is a badge for a powerful metaphor
for grief.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah, it's really effective. It was so beautiful. Loved that depiction.
So beautiful badge for I your mother.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I'm not, Oh, you know what I have to do?
An additional badge from that where the illustrations of the
Baba Duk with its teeth, it's got a very specific
facial expression, and she mimics that in her acting during
that scene where she's like yelling and possessed, she was excellent.
There could have been another version of this where there's
like a woman who's just struggling and screaming and sad.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
That would have felt bad, It would have felt more.
I don't know. We've seen so many movies, and maybe
it's because we know she's gonna overcome because this is
made by women and they're not just gonna like have
her like at the end be like, well, this is
what it means to be a girl and I'm just
gonna die tragically. You're like, oh, look I have a baby.
Rosemar's baby style very nose Fara too. Yeah, it is
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like yeah, it's tragic, tragic, tragic, and then at the
end she dies and it's just like, yeah, it just
feels like using the women's fear for no reason. I
don't like it's you know, it's not going towards it.
But for some reason in this one, like it just
I was just really was feeling for her and it
felt very in fact, yeah, it felt very like she
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felt very relatably out of it and the way she
was like avoiding. I also appreciate that they made this grief.
She's been like holding onto it for seven years. It
wasn't like just like one year of you know, it's
like the depth of it, you know, instead of it
being like, I don't know. I feel like a lot
of times in movies, people haven't been they haven't been
(40:31):
gone for long enough. Did you want her? Mom died
like a year ago? In Wolf? Oh a month ago
or something.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
There was a movie was it Scream That was like,
but that was last year. I can't believe you're not
oly it now, your mom was horribly last year.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
One year ago? What the hell? Yeah? Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:51):
And also was it Twitches? It was Twitches where her
mom died like two months ago or something.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I guess all the movies that we're talking about are
not a notably good movie. But but this is one
of the reasons why it's you know, it's like a
very deep thing she's holding on too, and she's pushing
it away because not those things are really hard to
deal with in life. By the way, it's not like
there's a rule book that everybody just follows. Yeah. Yeah.
My final badge is just I think it was just good.
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Part way through the movie. I was just like, this
is really good.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Baba Duke more like Baba good good, Mama good.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
A trag is trages. I only have one, so you.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Go, okay, Well a trage for the film canceled itself
by killing the dog right for sure.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Unfortune. Sorry my only one badge in this movie, and
I don't know, maybe sorry my only my only trage
that I wrote down at least was life Unraveling was
super stressful while I was sick on Nike will oh god. Yeah,
the way it was unraveling I was like, is this
your life? Is being out of it watching a movie
(42:04):
where they're out of it? Weird?
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah, yeah, that would be freaky. I was freaking out
like that, uh trage for has this child considered ever
doing something that's not shouting? Not even really the actor
just that kid needed to shut.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Up that kid. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
You don't have to be shouting all the time. I
don't know how people put up with children. I don't
know how you do it.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Dart litter me, dart lighted in, dart lighted in.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Dor't let it in, just like when it was on,
when it was on the playground, being like mom it, mama, sorry,
just annoying. Children are so annoying. Maybe I'm the Baba duck.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Oh, that's so funny. We all have a moment in life.
Have you ever been just experience. You know, you're you're
in a fight with a friend, or you know you're
you're having trouble at work. You feel like the world's
had to get you, and then you have a moment
where you go, am I the baba duck?
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Oh my god, honestly, girl, I hit the CEO of
our company with a golf ball the other day, I
was like, am I the Baba duke?
Speaker 2 (43:23):
What was the context? Please? Oh, please tell me the context? Please?
Speaker 3 (43:27):
The context was regrettably explainable. It was that we were
doing mini golf for our Valentine's social and on the
final hole you had to hit it really hard because
it had to go like vertically up a ramp. And
I hit it so hard that it went out, bounced
off the end of the hole, came back, bounced off
a wall, and then hit the CEO on the shoulder,
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and then every the whole company backed away slowly.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
And I left.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
My second to last trage is ew why is why
are they leathery? Because the baba duck I love the
illustrated version of them. But then I r L. I
agree there was some leather going on that I was
not ready.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
For the ceiling on the ceiling, what is this texture?
Not what I expected?
Speaker 3 (44:09):
No, because there wasn't any any hint of a sine
in the illustrations that the Baba in their pope like
sheen like in their Baba book. Yeah, and my final
trage is a trage for the horror genre is so unrespected,
I know in awards ceremonies and I know, award ceremonies
are like whatever, but there are some some real achievements
(44:31):
are happening in this category, like the acting Sie Davis,
the lead actor in this movie.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
She was so good. These are one of the only
films also where they can really be explicitly art films
in a way that reads like I, I, as a viewer,
get something out of watching an artistic horror film. You know,
like that has because like they were really creative in
(44:58):
this one. There was a lot of artfulness to angles
and shadow and things like that, Like I find myself
looking for like symbols and things like that, like which
I'm much more engaged in, like the movie experience than
I am watching all the other stuff totally. So it's
strange that we it's just a weird thing to be
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so disrespectful of. I get some of the like the
slasher things seeming cheap, but a lot of horror movies
are not like that.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
And let's say a lot of mainstream movies are made
by men, yeah, and are terrible.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Terrible, are terrible.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
We need to recalibrate as a society. Well, Sienna, let's
pop up into our next segment, how to pretend you've
seen this film.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
This is for.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
You.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Are at the library looking for a book and you
open one up and it pops up, and.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Samuel pops out of it and says, hill aar, hell,
are are reminds me? I love pop up books will
always remind me of a film.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Why are you hiding in this book?
Speaker 3 (46:11):
A film that I love that's a bit a boy
and a dad and it's really powerful. I'm so sorry
to Australia. It's called The Babba Duke. And I'm gonna
talk to you all about it. And in order tell
you the whole thing, in.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Order to shun to push, in order to push Samuel
down to the basement and feed him worms, We're gonna
give you a few things you can say to pretend
you've seen the film The Barba Duke.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Mmm, yes, Samuel, I've seen The Baba Duke. I can't
talk about this right now because I have to go
see a man about a thing. And Samuel goes, are, well,
where where's the man? And I go He's in the cemetery.
Wonder when Tamil was like, my dad's in the cemetery.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Oh okay, oh my god, Oh this is interesting. Yes,
Samuel I've seen the film The Baba Duke. Fun fact
in Hebrew, bab bab duke means he is coming for sure,
for sure, he is coming for sure. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
That is the thing that steps this up from No Speratu,
because no Sparatu they're always like he is coming. But
the Baba Duke, they're like, they are coming for sure.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
They're coming for sure, for sure, which is said that
is true about grief? It is true, for sure, for sure.
There's something like, there's something so deep about grief as
a human. It's like death comes for us all, but
specifically as a human, the fact that grief comes for
us all since being social and the people around us
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are so important. Ah, Baba duke, Babba duke.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yeah, yes, Samuel, I've seen the Baba Duck. This film
has a rare example of a man who seems alright
actually in the form of Amelia's co worker who shows
up with flowers and a puzzle. If a man came
to my if a kind man came to my door
with flowers and a puzzle, I would say, well, perhaps
(48:31):
today I am not.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
The Baba Duck. Do come in? That is sweet? Come in, yes, Samuel,
I have seen the film The Baba Duke. Despite the
fact that the film was the first to be selected
for Sundance Festival that year, director Jennifer Kent feared that
American audiences would dislike it, would dislike its unconventionality. She
(48:54):
was relieved when the film was very well received in
the USA and got excellent reviews. Yeah, I feel like
we love that movie here. I don't know Film Rose
and the Queer Icon of the Icons alike. I didn't
know that the film was beloved. I knew the Baba
Dooke themselves, but I love that. I think the reason
(49:15):
I saw it in college was because of Film Bros.
Mm you, I know you. I first, I hadn't remember it,
and now I saw it again and I'm like, oh,
my god, work, work, I go.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
I begin to reply to Samuel, but then my perfect
angel of the dog, Bugsy, starts barking at him, and
I realize, oh, I'm sorry, I can't continue this conversation
because I believe you are currently possessed by the Baba Dooke, Samuel,
so I will be taking my business and my dog elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yes. Sorry, I just saw some really really funny trivia
pieces which explain a lot. Yes, yes, Samuel, I have
seen the Bobba Dook. Here are the two best pieces
of trivia about this movie. Baba duck is an anagram
of a bad book. Well, and yep, this answers a
(50:09):
lot of our questions. Uh, yes, Samuel, I've seen this film.
And Leanna, the film became a meme and symbol for
the LGBTQ community after Netflix accidentally placed it under lgbt Movies. Yes,
oh that's how it started. I forgot about that.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
That's so yes, and then all of the drawings of
the Babba duck with the rainbow behind them were like, oh.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
What do you know that we don't? Yeah, but it
all makes sense, they are. It all makes love that.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
The Babba duck is so queer.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Yes, that's so bab I love when accidents, like when
there's a moment in capitalism. Yeah, it makes us all
bind together where we're all like yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah,
that is so funny. What's the Baba duck doing on here?
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Oh my gosh, I didn't know the Baba duck came out.
They came out of They literally come out of the
closet in the film.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
That's so true. Well, Leanna, shall we move on to
our next segment, which, of course, should you watch this
or where we tell you if you watch this film
or if you should do anything else with your precious time. Leanna,
what say you?
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Oh gosh, I would say, yeah, you can watch the
Baba Duck. You do need to be aware that the
dog does die, So skip one hour nine minutes to
one hour eleven and a half minutes if you don't
want to see that. If you're not in the mood
for watching the movie, you could do some work on
processing your grief. Uh huh, because it is so it
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is so important to do that, otherwise you will throw
up a demon in your basement after getting stabbed in
the leg by your young freak son.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
So true, seat, what would you say, just take some time.
When you did some time, I would say this movie
is great. I would actually quite recommend it. It's also
a cool hour and thirty minutes, by the way, because
guess what, it was made by a damn woman. She's
not gonna waste your damn time. And they tell you
a story in that time, and it's fantastic. It's just
(52:25):
too like a really good movie. It's enjoyable and it's like,
this is the kind of movie that makes me want
to make props for movies really badly. Yeah, what I
would say you could do instead if you wanted a
similar vibe, which is Australian content that has become queer
canon for Americans.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
Is it Kath and Kim.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
I was gonna say, you could watch Kath and Kim. Yeah,
or even more specifically, you could watch Tricksy and Katia
watch Kata and Kim yes, which is for some reason
one of the most I watch it when I'm feeling
really bad because it's so fun to watch them love
something so much, watching them in real time experience. How
(53:06):
funny katherin Kim is and them just be like Trixy
and Kati have to watch all these movies for Netflix.
Oh it's also a Netflix, uh Netflix thing. And they're
like us watching movies and kind of just like talking
about it and kind of enjoying some of them. But
the one thing that they actually genuinely enjoy and they're like, wait,
we actually got to watch something I loved is when
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they watch Kath and Kim. So thank you Australia for
your wonderful art and your sense of humor. But that's
another thing you could watch.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Also Australia Coded Australia moment. Trixy and Katia watch that
show Sex slash Life, huh and they laugh so hard
at a line delivered by an Australian actor and then
keep repeating it, which is I came to you six
months Agar with a ring and the promise of a life.
And you said, Naar, my flatmate, and I quote Tricky
(53:59):
and Katya to each other all that I came to
you six months Agar with a ring and a.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
Promise of a law. So funny you said, nar. Also
Katherin Kim made by women, Australian women.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
Sleigh sore sly rate the film The Baba Duke.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
I would rate the film The Baba Duke five your
mothers out of five. Leanna, what about yourself?
Speaker 3 (54:29):
I would give the film The Baba Duke four bugsies
out of five. Really enjoyed it very much. But they
killed the dog and I'm really sorry. You're not getting
a full You're not getting full marks from me if
you do that. And that is the Leanna promise, mm hmm,
the promise of a law platform, my platform.
Speaker 5 (54:49):
Oh Baba, thank you so much for listening.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
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Speaker 1 (55:58):
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Speaker 2 (56:27):
I was watching Severance recently. You ever watched the parts?
I don't know. I hear a lot about it. Though
Adam Scott's mouth it is like smaller than his eye.
It is remarkably small, and it's one of the reasons
he looks cartoonish. And I think that he's like somebody
you like to watch. But like I was thinking, I
think Tony Collette has sort of like a huge mouth.
That's what she's sort of known for and things.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
She a wonderful performance.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
Okay, no, but a lot of my spooky performances because
she could be like, ah yeah, true, true. And there
was certainly now that Adam Scott asking him to scream
versus her to scream, the outcomes.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
Are gonna be extremely Yeah, there's a reason Adam Scott
was not in Hereditary.
Speaker 2 (57:08):
He couldn't be casting it because when he tries to
screams like a
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yes uh Hi, I'm Sienna Jacob and I'm Leanna Holsten,
and welcome to Toss Popcorn, the podcast where two idiots
watched every film on the AFI's one hundred Greatest American
Movies of All Time, the very slightly less racist tenth
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Anniversary edition. That's what we were doing for quite some time,
and now that we're finished with that, we are watching
movies directed by women.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
This podcast is a safe Baba Duck for people who
don't know anything about movies.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Rape point. Today we're watching The Babba Duck.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Doctor warning there will be spoilers about this Baba duck
old film and great point.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Again, it's now a proper noun, an adjective. Herb She's everything.
She is kidding.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
The Baba Duck is obviously non binary. They are everything.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh. I can't wait to talk to you about this movie.
I have to talk. We must talk.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
But before that, Sianna, could I please hear your projection?
Let's let's do it bad.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
My fucking music app. It is so the Babba Duck
to come up on my music app instead of Hi, Leanna,
this is cia. I'm about to watch laundry to watch
the Baba Duke.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I have seen this movie before, but it's been a
long time. I predict that our protagonist lady gets scared
by a top hatted.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Monster on the ceiling. Yeah, I love you, goodbye. It
was all coming back to me and I was like,
I think that's right. Yeah, I think that's correct. Though
there was so much I did not recall about this movie,
Like I thought it was gonna be like this little
like top hatted ghoul chasing her around the house like
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the whole time, and that's really not what it is.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
No, honestly, I wish that would have been.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
The sequel.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well, Sienna, here is my prediction for the Babba Duke.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I would love to hear it.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Hi, Sienna, it's Yanna. I'm about to watch the Baba Duck.
I don't know anything about this except the Baba Duck
is a queer icon. I predict I might, I might
be very scared. And there's a child.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Yeah, I forgot about that. It's about I literally forgot
there was a kid there. Maybe they like got a friend,
or they have to banish it, or maybe the Baba
Duck is like.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
The kid's dad.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I don't know. I love you by so you've never
seen it? No, why did the queer community latch onto this?
Uh this? Hmmm? You know, I think it was just
so much less.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I think it was less.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Why and more why not? Yeah, totally totally, you know,
And even upon saying that out loud, like I know why,
I feel like, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Know, let's let's call a spade a spade and content
warning for the C word here. The Baba Duck serves
cons it's true.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
What's to be true? Beyond they're wearing a top hat.
They are jazz, the hand saying they are old, they
are made, They are a cunty leathery icon. They don't
do too much like they have some respect for themselves
in terms of presentation, you know, like they aren't doing
anything too like they're kind.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Of just like, Yeah, the Baba Duck is jazz.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
The Baba is jazz. The Bobadock is actually quite a
lot like Liza Minellie. If you step back, there's a
lot they have in common. And there are people out
there who knew that right away. Maybe there's time. Okay,
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though I had seen it, there was so much, like
I said, I didn't remember the child and as soon
as the child should have like, oh yeah, of course obviously.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
So every film in order to be spooky must have
a child.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
We will discuss it, but after we say, after we talk,
Hey girl, hey girl, you told me the first Oh
I'm doing you first. Unfortunately, find is sorry, this is
the first meal you've made for yourself in a week.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Oh and we're outing that. Okay, just just air me
on the pods worries. We actually will get to that
on on my phone notes as well. Yes, I finally
cooked the ingredients that I bought. It's so hard to
cook the ingredients that you bought. It is because you
buy them and then you are hungry immediately every day
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for something that doesn't require preparing ingredients.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Totally.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
So finally today I cooked the ingredients that I bought.
I want to say Monday totally. Well, to speaks to
Saturday right now, it speaks to you. Oh thank you.
We'll say that. Not a mental health thing at all.
Well it doesn't know, but yes, I finally prepared a meal.
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I have energy. I'm sure you could hear in my
voice in the prediction section that was pre shorking a meal.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, oh my god. Girl, it's the day.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Sorry to date this episode, but it is currently the
day after Valentine's Day, and my big plan was to
hit the stores for the sales of the Sweet Genius
of the Little Treats the morning after TM and I
went straight to m and S, which is like the
fancy grocery store, to buy their stupid Valentine themed chocolates
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and there was nothing.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
They threw them in the garbage.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I don't know. I don't know where the hell they
put that. So because according to m Ands, it is
the night before Easter right now, and a little bit
of pancake mixed in, which is like a weird day
in March where they have that they considered to be
pancakes and they're not pancakes.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That's so weird.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It was so cursed. So I did that, and then
I went to Waitrose, an also fancy store, to get
their Valentine leftovers.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
So when I went to Sainsbury's, the people's store, also nothing.
And I texted my flatmate and I was like, the
L the levels of L that I just took cannot
be defined.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That is crazy. That is crazy. It's like, oh, alone
on Valentine.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Whatever you know what's another What's what's the twenty eighth
Valentines of doing that? We're that's old hat, we're used to.
That's fine, we know how to do it. The the famously,
the perk of being single on Valentine's Day is the
day after you get to go buy all the candy
for cheap.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
What That may be the only thing I've ever heard
of America doing better? Uh huh, because they're there's always garbage.
I yearned.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Oh my god, I was craving a CVS. Wow, I
felt so at sea. That is so crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
It was.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
It was a moment where I was like, Wow, I
really am in a foreign country. I'm in a foreign
land because this what's happening is fucked.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
What's the point but the point of that? Did you
go and look into their garbage cans their dumpsters? No?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I think that would have been a step down too far.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
My head is in Bob a Duck world. Also, I
just watched Hereditary on my birthday.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
For some reason, Wow, I was thinking about that movie
while watching this movie.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Have you ever seen that movie? No? But I've read
the Wikipedia talks so much about how scary it is.
I thought it was more just like a good movie.
I don't know, I get confused about what's scary. Oh
my god, I'm so excited to talk about this film
with you. Anyway, Hey girl, Hey girl. It was just
my birthday, belated birthday. I was so sick. I was
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very sick. I was in denial until yesterday was the
first day. I was like, I need to just be
in bed all day. I just have to. I've been
sick for a very long time. But my birthday party
was the night before my birthday. By the time it
hit about ten pm, I was like, oh, I'm not
just tired. Something is happening and I need to be
in bed as soon as possible. And something has changed.
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Oh my god, I don't think I told you this.
I had to actually ask them to leave.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, that happened to me and my flat might Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I put my pajamas on it two in the morning,
I changed out of my party dress. I put my
pajama a still I could.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I could tell we were heading towards two in the
morning territory because like, around eleven PM, someone went to
get rolling papers for weed and I was like, I'm
really happy. You feel safe for my home and another day.
I would like love this to be like an up
all night chatting thing, but I can tell I am
dying and I need this to be done. So at
a certain point I went, hey, guys, I'm going to
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bed in fifteen minutes, just so you know. You can
do what you want. Yeah, but I'll be asleep in there.
But what I didn't tell them was that I was
dying because I think I was getting sick. And then
on my birthday, Kelsey and I went to get pastries,
which is great, but I was sitting in line for
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pastries and I was like, oh, oh, I can't be out,
I can't be standing up. Oh, I can't be standing
any more. And then I ate an egg burrito, but
turns out I had a lot of ham in it,
and something about the idea of ham really turned my
stomach and I had to stop eating everything, and then
I went to sleep.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Oh but welcome to twenty eight. To mama, yeah, every
day is exactly like that.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I'm kidding. You were just ill. I was very ill,
but I'm still not. I'm getting over it now, but
you can tell I have sick voys.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
But you know, oh, Sienna, Papa, could you please ba
ba ba ba bad bade. Could you please give us
a synopsis of the Babadke?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yes, this is pretty literal, and I apologize Baba Duke.
The Baba Duke, Amelia struggles to manage the loss of
her late husband, who died the day her son, Samuel
was born, about seven years ago. It starts to affect
the family by this point, and Samuel is being a
really weird kid who is obsessed with monsters and weapons.
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The two of them find a picture book about a
scary top hatted monster called the Baba Duke. It takes
over their home and then Amelia when she lets him
in one day, sorry, when she lets them in one day,
the Baba Duke really makes everything horrible and Amelia becomes
so scary. In the end, they learn to manage the
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Baba Duke just as one manages grief, and she and
her son finally become close and at peace. The end. Yeah,
that ending was so girl coded and I loved it.
I was like, I won't made this. I would have
made this absolute donk.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
A woman wrote and directed this, and can I tell
you it was so good? Yeah, Okay, I couldn't tell
what that was gonna be it's really we have to
just eat ourselves right into phone notes. Hello, everyone, welcome
to phone no Where. It's really not far off from
our et impression no Bug Dunk Dunk.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Where we talked about the notes we took on our
phone while watching the film. Leona can't wait to hear
what you thought about this, so glad it sounds like
you're into it. Your first note, unfortunately, is off. I
go to does thedog die dot com. They did it.
They did it. They snapped that dog's neck, and I
didn't kill the dog. I guess I remember nothing except
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for must I must.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I'm eternally grateful for the website does thedog die dot
com because as soon as there is a dog or
any sort of beloved creature on screen, I go straight there.
I say, excuse me, hello, and the website says, yes, Mama,
you're gonna want to close your eyes from minute one
to nine to one. From our one to nine to
one eleven of the film, can I say and thank you,
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thank you for letting me know.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
So.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Unfortunately for me, the movie was canceled right from the beginning.
I watched it, but I was like, well, you killed
the dog, so I don't know what to tell you,
but I gotta say it won me back.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Really yeah, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
The ending, The ending got me back. And you see,
I know your first note and thank you for your consideration.
You wrote you simply must hate this child.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
It's really about a kid being a little freak. Yeah,
did you hate him? Yeah? Or medium?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I saying I hated that child feels like hate speech. Oh,
because that child is so clearly on the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh, I wouldn't see it that way.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Oh yeah, that child is saying everything that comes to
his mind. He is interpreting things very literally. Sure, he's
not responding.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
To social cues.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
That kid has a splash of the tism and that's fine.
On top of that, that kid is annoying as well.
But the other kid sucks. I hated that kid. That
kid was shouting constantly and making your life. Had a
terrible haircut, and may I say was ugly? The kid
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was ugly. I don't know what to tell you. What
are you about to say?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I didn't There were moments where I thought that this
kid was I guess, very cute. He pulled my heart
strings a number of times, like when he's like.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Okay, mommy, I was just really hungry. God, I was like,
shut up, let her take a nap.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
If it's in a word or if it's in a podcast,
you can't get rid of the baba Dad break, We'll
be right back. Are there so many memes? Are there
so many memes from this movie because it's so iconic.
Some of the lines idea, yeah, yeah, I didn't realize
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that either. One of the lines when when he's like, Mommy,
I'm hungry after she turns all monstrous because the Baba
duck has taken over her and she goes hungry, Why
don't you just ate shit? That's a meme? No, it
just seemed memable. I don't know. Oh, I don't know.
I don't know that many memes.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
That classic meme of a mother yelling at her son
to eat shit?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Maybe so much? Eight ship. Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Can I say something that's a little bit anti Australian.
It was hard to take this movie seriously because it
had Australians.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Go and watch A day A day. Mommy, I said,
go and watch a day they day And I'm sorry,
darn't don't let it in, don't lead it in, don't
let it in so Okay, all scary movies had that
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edge because for our ears, it's a little bit like
of like a fun it's like a game of understanding
what's happening. Or also sometimes it does sound very funny,
and sometimes it doesn't, but sometimes it does, and that
makes it a little bit more of a comforting experience
to watch, I think, than just disgusting American accents. That's true.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I'm glad it wasn't Americans.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
You've said, in a surprise to no one, I have
muted the film.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Well does the Dog Die? Came in clutch by forewarning
me of the other sort of moments of horror slash
gore ish that would be in the film, But unfortunately
that meant that I was expecting them to happen at
any time. Yeah, because the website and spoiler alert everybody,
the things of sort of body horror that happen are
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she pulls out her tooth and a guy's head gets
sliced in half, is how it was worded on the website,
and then she gets stabbed, And so for every minute
of the one hour thirty I was like, somebody might
be about to pull out a tooth, so let me
just preemptively mute the film. I'd say, all that happened
in the final eight minutes of the film, I know,
and I wish does the dog die head? Let me
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know that, because I didn't need to be muting a
minute eighteen really not like a gratuitous movie all throughout
at all. In fact, I wonder if it was low budget,
because they don't. It's all a lot of like ideas
or her life is just like getting freakier. And for
a while I realized, you don't even know what the
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monster is yet You're like, is the kid a monster?
He's so freaky, and then she starts acting weird and
then you only see the Baba Duke a couple of times.
That it's always like in shadow, it's not like lots
of disgusting things happening.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I mean there are bugs at some point. Yeah, besides that,
it's mostly them just being weirdos spooky spooky. Yes, you
said it's so funny that the Babaduke. This is so true, Leona.
You said, it's so funny that the Baba Duke wrote
a cunty pop up book about themselves. I love this.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
So for anybody who's not seen the film, the way
that Babaduk is introduced is this random children's book shows
up on the weird freak child's bookshelf and the child's like,
I want to I don't read this one for bed.
And it's a pop an illustrated pop up book, hand
lettered that tells the story, the backstory of the Babaduk
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and introduces them as a concept. And I love that
this demon is out there like cutting out a paper
outline of themself, illustrating a self portrait, making them into
a pop up format where you can pull a tab
and the hand way. I'm obsessed with that. I wish
every movie villain, especially like horror film Monster, had to
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introduce themselves in a creative craft when it.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Takes some art direction, Oh, it takes it makes it
is it like introduces yourself.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
It comes to Freddy Krueger shows up as like a collage.
It's kind of like Jason that like sword Guy shows
up as like a sticker journal. He sticker journals himself
into somebody's nightmares.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
You know, yeah, totally totally love that. It takes a
little bit of work. It's like when uh, you know,
at the beginning of of RuPaul's Supermodel where he like
tells a little story about like himself, like yeah, you
know in the Brewster Projects or whatever. It's like that.
It's like, let me introduce myself a little bit before
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I enter your space. Get a little introduction like, hey,
I'm the Baba, a bit about me. You let me
in once, I'm gonna go duke, and then you're gonna
let me in. And that's exactly what's gonna happen. Yeah.
The only thing that would be better if they had
a little theme song.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Oh that was what this was missing. They needed a
like what they do on drag Race exactly like but
for the Baba Duck. I'm sure people that just calls me.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Why can't you just be normal? A classic meme?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Sienna, you noted OMG the art department that made that
book watching it get destroyed and I so you had
that While that was happening, I was like, yes, Mama.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
BBQ the bb Duck. That's good, thank you BBQ the
Baby Dook.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I also couldn't believe they didn't say anything about like
the Babba Book. Yeah, this introduces themselves via the Baba Book.
I could have been having some fun. They needed to
have a little laugh a little giggle.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
The Bible dock a baby key, the Bobba Book.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And let me say apologies to Australia for this episode.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I was gonna say, we're being insane, and I answer
being insane huge.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
But because I live with the Babba Duck.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And Leona does live with the Baba Duke by.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
The way, yeah, it's not my fault. The Babaduk lives
in my laundry basket.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Oh, Leon, a great point. You said we need a
stethoscope that detects demons. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Every horror film with a spooky child that they take
to the doctor, the doctor's like, well, all the tests
came back normal. And I was like, well, why didn't
you test for demons?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
If the parent could be like, could you actually use
the demon scope? And they do go, oh yep, they're
demons in here.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
They need like a cat scan.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
But for demons.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
There's a demon in here an MRI. But the M
stands for my God. That's the demon. You know, Yeah, totally, Leoni.
You've also said rar x D the Baba Duke. Oh
that's so the babaduks vibe that ran.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, the Babaduk is just like they see them for
the first time. They're like crawling around the ceiling and
then they just come down, kind of come down like, yeah,
they're like a ring leader at a circus. Yeah, yeah,
they are, is what they.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Really reminder that that's the career they were meant to have.
Totally that poor Baba Duck is in the wrong line
of work. They don't need to be haunting. They need
to be going and hosting Cirq de sole.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
One thing I don't think I even wrote down is
the imagine I'm sorry, imagine the Baba Duke m seeing
Cirque de Solay. Oh my gosh. They'd be perfect. That
is what they're made for.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Absolutelyact they wouldn't even.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Stand out there. We'd all be like, no, you you belong, Like.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Oh yes, it's served disles Kuza. You don't hosted the
embodiment of grief at all. You're simply just somebody fit
for your job who's embodying Liza Manelli in a speak
in a spookier you.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Know, sort of drag circus. Yea, yes, exactly. You know.
What I didn't even write down, but I was thinking
all throughout is that the television programs will kind of
lit in this like this Australian public television. Every channel
she changes too is something like interesting and insane. It's
like either alle classic old television, like it's either the
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Phantom of the Opera yeah, or like Circus.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
TV yeah, because it was all programmed by the Babba Duck.
I love by the way of the concerting themselves in
media throughout history. It's like, and here was my cameo
in Trip to the Moon, the first ever film. Here,
of course, I can be spotted in the Wizard of Oz. Yeah,
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Oh my god. The Baba Duck is a producer. The
Babba Duk should have gotten an EP credit on this
film for sure. Yeah, produced by the Babba Duck.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
The Bamba Duke. Kiss Kiss.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Oh my gosh, Siena, Oh, how spooky for you. You wrote
her jaw hurts and she's sleepy and time moves wrong.
She literally is me. I found her so relatable at
certain points also.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Did the jaw hurts? Oh, and then she'll like kind
of like be sitting there and then she looks up
and it's been nine hours. That's how I feel all
the time. Oh my god, that's what it's like to
be me. I'm sitting there. My jaw hurts, and I
look over in three hours of past and I'm like,
what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Hell?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I feel very related to her in that the way
that she's coming apart at the seems is how I
feel waiting for my visa application decision.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
She's just like, please let me nap. I'm so tired.
I just need to nap for five years. And then
she has ice cream for dinner and I was like, hello,
same walls.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, Leana, you've said all cops are bobadoks.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
She goes to the station to report that she's being stopped,
and behind the police officer, the Boba Duke outfit is
hung up on the wall. I said, A cab, a cab.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
We know your secret, we know your secret. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
It reminded me of did you ever have that book?
That book about that woman who's a teacher and she
hates her students because they're all so poorly behaved. So
she leaves and she dresses up as a witch whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, that is she comes back as the bad That
is what she does. Yeah, but her outfit is very
Baba duck coded. That's true. It is m hmm, it
really really is.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
The Baba Duck really is all around. I love the
Baba duck. I love the idea it's from love. Actually
love actually is all around. The actually is all around.
I think if you go to heath Throw Terminal five,
you'll find the Boba duck actually is.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I love the baba duck. Duck is also just oh
my god, dreaming that the boy Sana you wrote he's
home aloning the baba duck like genuinely, yeah, well like
little Jerry rigged things. He's like, I will say, one
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thing I did love about this kid is that this
kid like does understand monsters on another level. This kid
is like, by the way, Mom, the Baba do is
inside of you. And she's like, no, it's not. And
he's like, no, it is. And I know you're not
my mom, You're the bobba duck right now. Yeah, just
really sweet. Actually, he's like, there's something mom, there's something
else going. This isn't you. I can tell this isn't you.
And he helps her by setting up a series of
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traps in the basement.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yes, slapping her in the legs, legs and tying her
up and it's really scary.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And then at a certain point of throw up. She's
sort of like getting bonked and tripping, spinning and swirling
and like trips her, he bonks her. It is very
home alone. You're right, it's really funny.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Actually, Oh my god, imagine home alone six the Baba
duck ill versus the Baba duck.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
You've said yes, Mama, and then you've said okay, Mama
too much.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
At first when she was like, leave me alone, I
want to nap, Please let me alone. Yeah, because this
kid has not shut up for one hour. But then
she yelled at the child and was.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Like, you should eat shit. And I was like, well, no,
that is too far. What's wrong with me? That that
you should eat shit? Made me laugh out loud? Oh god,
it made me laugh. I really don't like the concept
of eating shit. It just her like it's so visceral. Wow,
I guess that doesn't that doesn't it doesn't apply to
me as some an actual image. It's just like such
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a mean thing to say to your cage your kids,
like I'm hungry, And she's like, while, whana you just
ate shit? That's so mean. It very yeah, it's so funny.
That's like the worst response ever. He's like, no, I
was just hoping for a meal. I'm a child. I
literally can't feed myself. She goes, why are you always
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talk talk talking, And I was like, the Bobbadook, the Bobbadook,
using the Bobbadocks, this is a parallel, parallel structure. Oh yes,
talk talk talking whatever.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I am bic pentameter. But for the Baba Duke, I
am book, I am book, I am dook, I am book,
I am book, I am babomed.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yep, she was using I am dook babomed, which is
written which I am. Yeah, Leanna, you said two freaks
jump scaring each other, and you've said Mama's bad day.
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Alternate title for the film Mama's Bound. Mama goes Baba
today Mama Duke.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Uh yeah, these two freaks when she's sneaking around the
house looking for her son because she's gone demon mode
and her son is hiding. But they're both such freaks
that it's unclear which of them is supposed to be
the jump scar. Yeah, And I was like, this house
is hell. Imagine you are a freak who lives with
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another freak, so every time you see each other, you're both.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Going oh yeah, by the way, exhausting The first half
of this movie is just the kid being weird and
people being like, your kid's a freak. I can't, I can't.
I can't stand being around your kid.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
He's such a funke a height being around him, I
don't want to and then want to be around your son.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
He's okay, okay, he's okay, it's okay, and then out
of a out of a treehouse and she's like, yeah,
breaks her face. He's not okay. It's like, sorry, mama's
bad day, colon, Mama's mad. Duke. You've said cat cow,
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she does cat cow? Yeah, yeah, that's really funny. That
cat cow, I bet, can be found in almost any
horror film. He knows Faratu we saw it in the Babad.
There's no way to expel anything from your body or
uh and what's the oppisode expell inhale inhale it into
your body except for cat cow in the scary movie. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I the next time I do cat cow, I'm gonna
be thinking about that. Leon those demons out pleaas Leoni.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
You've said the Babaduk is CPT.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I guess, well, well, I realized when it becomes clear
that it's about grief. It's like, oh, the Babaduk just
wants you to process your trauma. The Baba Duck is
literally cognitive processing therapy because I've done CPT and it's
like homework assignments each week that you like fill out,
and that's basically the Baba Duck is having you do
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a very intense homework assignment to process your grief by
event first of all bye bye, by sucking it in
and then terrorizing your child and then barfing it out.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah. I mean it's an extreme until he's your home
and then for the rest of your life, feeding at worms,
feed it worms, just as your homework.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I loved that scene you wrote. This is so obviously
made by women.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Lol.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
That scene at the very end when it like approaches
her and she gasps and then comes back and it's okay,
I got I have goosebumps just talking about.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
It right now. I cry.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
That really is what won me back In the end.
I was like, yeah, okay, all right, you got me.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So many scary movies are supposed to be like an
embodiment of some fear we have, and so like the
thing about the fears we have in real life is
that you kind of have to have some peace with them.
And grief is such a powerful one to I feel
like sometimes the Babaduck has talked about like, oh, yeah,
it's about grief, and so we already like we I
don't know, I had no idea. I knew it was
about a queer icon. I didn't know it was also
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I knew that about it. But it's almost kind of
like that's its gimmick sometimes is what like the way
that I've heard it And I don't know if that's true.
I don't have I don't know, but like I, I
think it's so powerful even if you know that it's
about that, because grief is such a scary thing that
we just have to experience in our life. It's just
like and such a different I love.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
The the message of like grief stays with you. Yeah,
you have to keep living with you. You can't get
rid of the baba duc, but you can find a
way to keep to keep going.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
To manage it, to put it somewhere. It's it's it's
And then when the.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Kids, like toll I ever meet them and she was
like when you're older, and I was like, oh my god,
that's also true, Like you will it comes for us
all like we do all go through that and experience that,
and again it doesn't go away. It stays with you forever.
But I love that, like illustration of grief, how it's
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like a big circle in your life and then it
stays that same size, but then your life right expands
around it. Right, your life becomes full with other things
as well. And that's also very the Baba Duck. Yeah,
we always are with the Baba Dook, but now she's
also got.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
In peace with it. It's not like the main thing
in her life. Like I also thought it was so
beautiful the ending where she's finally able to just stay
out loud, like, well, the reason for this is because
it's like, oh, well, you never celebrated your son's birthday before.
She's like, well, her, my son's father died that day,
so this is the first time we're doing it, or
your son.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
We must say, my son's incredibly hot, father, I know,
what the hell, let's discuss that. That has to be discussed.
I also wonder she was in mourning. Yeah, she lost dad.
Ass is your son being a little freak? Take a
few minutes off, because otherwise you're gonna start having mama's
(34:56):
bad day, We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I thought it was so so sweet though, when she goes, oh,
I love when women make things when when they're like, oh, yeah, well,
three weeks is a long time to be out for kids,
because a lot of this movie also is her as
a single mom really struggling and everybody judging her, and
she's just like really having a hard time, and people
are getting tired of her shit and her like her
sadness and her disorganization, and they're like, oh, well, he's
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been out of school for three weeks now, it's like
a long time. And she goes, we needed some time.
We needed some time because they needed some time, because
you just need some time to sort things out, to
deal with it because grief is a really hard thing.
Was so sweet. Yeah, she got some confidence around that,
like you said, like her life is growing around it.
But yeah, I just it. Really these are the kind
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of things where I'm like, oh, I get why you'd
make a horror movie out of this, because that is
just a dark part of life and it's like a struggle,
it's a battle. Hmmm. I love when women make things. Yes,
a scary movie that ends with her going sh the monster.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Work.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Oh my gosh, Lena, your final note is honestly work. Yeah, really, yes, yes,
Leona trages. Yes, where we give badges for Boba douk, Yeah,
of course, and trages for the traumas that are holding
us back in.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Process and process. Yes, Oh, I have a badge for
this is where the why can't you just be normal?
Meme comes from where she's yelling at her son in
the back seat and she goes, why can't you just
be normal? And it cuts to the sun and the
caption is just screaming.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I love that meme. Badge for oh, ending with compassion.
I love the ending so much as we just discussed
badge for oh.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
I guess this is kind of a badge for myself
because I was proud of this, this syntax of yes girl,
BBQ the bb dou Yeah, I love that badges were
It's so funny to put it on the barbecue on
the back. Yeah it is again, Sorry to Australia. Badge
for no gratuitous scares or they all come excuse me,
(37:23):
they all come in like the last eight ish minutes again,
Like it's not just like a super disgusting movie, it's
all it's it's mostly psychological horror.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
A badge for the switch of perspective because for the
first half hour, Yeah, you're thinking that the sun is
the scary, crazy one and you're seeing it from the
mom's point of view, and then it switches and suddenly
you're kind of you're rooting for the sun, yeah, to
prevail against the demon possessed.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
That is such a good point. And then the last
it's subtle, but then it's sleigh. The very last second
switches to bobaduk Pov when they run down the stade. Yes,
I loved that as well.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
And I love the way that they don't show the
monster when it like comes yeah upon her in the basement.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
That was awesome.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Backs off her that also was really cool. Women Women badge.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
For Okay, I kind of loved her hair throughout this movie.
I don't know what it was doing it did it
look so good? I don't know. It was such a
fun shape. Also, it was like it was great big
on top and yeah she was she was slaying. I
don't know. It was so good.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
It was borderline of trage for me because I was like,
this is a woman at her wits end. How is
her hair constantly a blowout was like a cooler way
though it was not a color hip or a shape I.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Would Yeah, it was hip that I would have expected.
It wasn't just like beach waves. It was cool. No,
she's cool, very cool. Yeah, she's cool.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Man.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
My final badge is a badge for a powerful metaphor
for grief.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah, it's really effective. It was so beautiful. Loved that depiction.
So beautiful badge for I your mother.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I'm not, Oh, you know what I have to do?
An additional badge from that where the illustrations of the
Baba Duk with its teeth, it's got a very specific
facial expression, and she mimics that in her acting during
that scene where she's like yelling and possessed, she was excellent.
There could have been another version of this where there's
like a woman who's just struggling and screaming and sad.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
That would have felt bad, It would have felt more.
I don't know. We've seen so many movies, and maybe
it's because we know she's gonna overcome because this is
made by women and they're not just gonna like have
her like at the end be like, well, this is
what it means to be a girl and I'm just
gonna die tragically. You're like, oh, look I have a baby.
Rosemar's baby style very nose Fara too. Yeah, it is
(39:49):
like yeah, it's tragic, tragic, tragic, and then at the
end she dies and it's just like, yeah, it just
feels like using the women's fear for no reason. I
don't like it's you know, it's not going towards it.
But for some reason in this one, like it just
I was just really was feeling for her and it
felt very in fact, yeah, it felt very like she
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felt very relatably out of it and the way she
was like avoiding. I also appreciate that they made this grief.
She's been like holding onto it for seven years. It
wasn't like just like one year of you know, it's
like the depth of it, you know, instead of it
being like, I don't know. I feel like a lot
of times in movies, people haven't been they haven't been
(40:31):
gone for long enough. Did you want her? Mom died
like a year ago? In Wolf? Oh a month ago
or something.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
There was a movie was it Scream That was like,
but that was last year. I can't believe you're not
oly it now, your mom was horribly last year.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
One year ago? What the hell? Yeah? Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:51):
And also was it Twitches? It was Twitches where her
mom died like two months ago or something.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I guess all the movies that we're talking about are
not a notably good movie. But but this is one
of the reasons why it's you know, it's like a
very deep thing she's holding on too, and she's pushing
it away because not those things are really hard to
deal with in life. By the way, it's not like
there's a rule book that everybody just follows. Yeah. Yeah.
My final badge is just I think it was just good.
(41:17):
Part way through the movie. I was just like, this
is really good.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Baba Duke more like Baba good good, Mama good.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
A trag is trages. I only have one, so you.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Go, okay, Well a trage for the film canceled itself
by killing the dog right for sure.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Unfortune. Sorry my only one badge in this movie, and
I don't know, maybe sorry my only my only trage
that I wrote down at least was life Unraveling was
super stressful while I was sick on Nike will oh god. Yeah,
the way it was unraveling I was like, is this
your life? Is being out of it watching a movie
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where they're out of it? Weird?
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah, yeah, that would be freaky. I was freaking out
like that, uh trage for has this child considered ever
doing something that's not shouting? Not even really the actor
just that kid needed to shut.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Up that kid. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
You don't have to be shouting all the time. I
don't know how people put up with children. I don't
know how you do it.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Dart litter me, dart lighted in, dart lighted in.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Dor't let it in, just like when it was on,
when it was on the playground, being like mom it, mama, sorry,
just annoying. Children are so annoying. Maybe I'm the Baba duck.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Oh, that's so funny. We all have a moment in life.
Have you ever been just experience. You know, you're you're
in a fight with a friend, or you know you're
you're having trouble at work. You feel like the world's
had to get you, and then you have a moment
where you go, am I the baba duck?
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Oh my god, honestly, girl, I hit the CEO of
our company with a golf ball the other day, I
was like, am I the Baba duke?
Speaker 2 (43:23):
What was the context? Please? Oh, please tell me the context? Please?
Speaker 3 (43:27):
The context was regrettably explainable. It was that we were
doing mini golf for our Valentine's social and on the
final hole you had to hit it really hard because
it had to go like vertically up a ramp. And
I hit it so hard that it went out, bounced
off the end of the hole, came back, bounced off
a wall, and then hit the CEO on the shoulder,
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and then every the whole company backed away slowly.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
And I left.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
My second to last trage is ew why is why
are they leathery? Because the baba duck I love the
illustrated version of them. But then I r L. I
agree there was some leather going on that I was
not ready.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
For the ceiling on the ceiling, what is this texture?
Not what I expected?
Speaker 3 (44:09):
No, because there wasn't any any hint of a sine
in the illustrations that the Baba in their pope like
sheen like in their Baba book. Yeah, and my final
trage is a trage for the horror genre is so unrespected,
I know in awards ceremonies and I know, award ceremonies
are like whatever, but there are some some real achievements
(44:31):
are happening in this category, like the acting Sie Davis,
the lead actor in this movie.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
She was so good. These are one of the only
films also where they can really be explicitly art films
in a way that reads like I, I, as a viewer,
get something out of watching an artistic horror film. You know,
like that has because like they were really creative in
(44:58):
this one. There was a lot of artfulness to angles
and shadow and things like that, Like I find myself
looking for like symbols and things like that, like which
I'm much more engaged in, like the movie experience than
I am watching all the other stuff totally. So it's
strange that we it's just a weird thing to be
(45:18):
so disrespectful of. I get some of the like the
slasher things seeming cheap, but a lot of horror movies
are not like that.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
And let's say a lot of mainstream movies are made
by men, yeah, and are terrible.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Terrible, are terrible.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
We need to recalibrate as a society. Well, Sienna, let's
pop up into our next segment, how to pretend you've
seen this film.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
This is for.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
You.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Are at the library looking for a book and you
open one up and it pops up, and.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Samuel pops out of it and says, hill aar, hell,
are are reminds me? I love pop up books will
always remind me of a film.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Why are you hiding in this book?
Speaker 3 (46:11):
A film that I love that's a bit a boy
and a dad and it's really powerful. I'm so sorry
to Australia. It's called The Babba Duke. And I'm gonna
talk to you all about it. And in order tell
you the whole thing, in.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Order to shun to push, in order to push Samuel
down to the basement and feed him worms, We're gonna
give you a few things you can say to pretend
you've seen the film The Barba Duke.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Mmm, yes, Samuel, I've seen The Baba Duke. I can't
talk about this right now because I have to go
see a man about a thing. And Samuel goes, are, well,
where where's the man? And I go He's in the cemetery.
Wonder when Tamil was like, my dad's in the cemetery.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Oh okay, oh my god, Oh this is interesting. Yes,
Samuel I've seen the film The Baba Duke. Fun fact
in Hebrew, bab bab duke means he is coming for sure,
for sure, he is coming for sure. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
That is the thing that steps this up from No Speratu,
because no Sparatu they're always like he is coming. But
the Baba Duke, they're like, they are coming for sure.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
They're coming for sure, for sure, which is said that
is true about grief? It is true, for sure, for sure.
There's something like, there's something so deep about grief as
a human. It's like death comes for us all, but
specifically as a human, the fact that grief comes for
us all since being social and the people around us
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are so important. Ah, Baba duke, Babba duke.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yeah, yes, Samuel, I've seen the Baba Duck. This film
has a rare example of a man who seems alright
actually in the form of Amelia's co worker who shows
up with flowers and a puzzle. If a man came
to my if a kind man came to my door
with flowers and a puzzle, I would say, well, perhaps
(48:31):
today I am not.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
The Baba Duck. Do come in? That is sweet? Come in, yes, Samuel,
I have seen the film The Baba Duke. Despite the
fact that the film was the first to be selected
for Sundance Festival that year, director Jennifer Kent feared that
American audiences would dislike it, would dislike its unconventionality. She
(48:54):
was relieved when the film was very well received in
the USA and got excellent reviews. Yeah, I feel like
we love that movie here. I don't know Film Rose
and the Queer Icon of the Icons alike. I didn't
know that the film was beloved. I knew the Baba
Dooke themselves, but I love that. I think the reason
(49:15):
I saw it in college was because of Film Bros.
Mm you, I know you. I first, I hadn't remember it,
and now I saw it again and I'm like, oh,
my god, work, work, I go.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
I begin to reply to Samuel, but then my perfect
angel of the dog, Bugsy, starts barking at him, and
I realize, oh, I'm sorry, I can't continue this conversation
because I believe you are currently possessed by the Baba Dooke, Samuel,
so I will be taking my business and my dog elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yes. Sorry, I just saw some really really funny trivia
pieces which explain a lot. Yes, yes, Samuel, I have
seen the Bobba Dook. Here are the two best pieces
of trivia about this movie. Baba duck is an anagram
of a bad book. Well, and yep, this answers a
(50:09):
lot of our questions. Uh, yes, Samuel, I've seen this film.
And Leanna, the film became a meme and symbol for
the LGBTQ community after Netflix accidentally placed it under lgbt Movies. Yes,
oh that's how it started. I forgot about that.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
That's so yes, and then all of the drawings of
the Babba duck with the rainbow behind them were like, oh.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
What do you know that we don't? Yeah, but it
all makes sense, they are. It all makes love that.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
The Babba duck is so queer.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Yes, that's so bab I love when accidents, like when
there's a moment in capitalism. Yeah, it makes us all
bind together where we're all like yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah,
that is so funny. What's the Baba duck doing on here?
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Oh my gosh, I didn't know the Baba duck came out.
They came out of They literally come out of the
closet in the film.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
That's so true. Well, Leanna, shall we move on to
our next segment, which, of course, should you watch this
or where we tell you if you watch this film
or if you should do anything else with your precious time. Leanna,
what say you?
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Oh gosh, I would say, yeah, you can watch the
Baba Duck. You do need to be aware that the
dog does die, So skip one hour nine minutes to
one hour eleven and a half minutes if you don't
want to see that. If you're not in the mood
for watching the movie, you could do some work on
processing your grief. Uh huh, because it is so it
(51:54):
is so important to do that, otherwise you will throw
up a demon in your basement after getting stabbed in
the leg by your young freak son.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
So true, seat, what would you say, just take some time.
When you did some time, I would say this movie
is great. I would actually quite recommend it. It's also
a cool hour and thirty minutes, by the way, because
guess what, it was made by a damn woman. She's
not gonna waste your damn time. And they tell you
a story in that time, and it's fantastic. It's just
(52:25):
too like a really good movie. It's enjoyable and it's like,
this is the kind of movie that makes me want
to make props for movies really badly. Yeah, what I
would say you could do instead if you wanted a
similar vibe, which is Australian content that has become queer
canon for Americans.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
Is it Kath and Kim.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
I was gonna say, you could watch Kath and Kim. Yeah,
or even more specifically, you could watch Tricksy and Katia
watch Kata and Kim yes, which is for some reason
one of the most I watch it when I'm feeling
really bad because it's so fun to watch them love
something so much, watching them in real time experience. How
(53:06):
funny katherin Kim is and them just be like Trixy
and Kati have to watch all these movies for Netflix.
Oh it's also a Netflix, uh Netflix thing. And they're
like us watching movies and kind of just like talking
about it and kind of enjoying some of them. But
the one thing that they actually genuinely enjoy and they're like, wait,
we actually got to watch something I loved is when
(53:27):
they watch Kath and Kim. So thank you Australia for
your wonderful art and your sense of humor. But that's
another thing you could watch.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Also Australia Coded Australia moment. Trixy and Katia watch that
show Sex slash Life, huh and they laugh so hard
at a line delivered by an Australian actor and then
keep repeating it, which is I came to you six
months Agar with a ring and the promise of a life.
And you said, Naar, my flatmate, and I quote Tricky
(53:59):
and Katya to each other all that I came to
you six months Agar with a ring and a.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
Promise of a law. So funny you said, nar. Also
Katherin Kim made by women, Australian women.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
Sleigh sore sly rate the film The Baba Duke.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
I would rate the film The Baba Duke five your
mothers out of five. Leanna, what about yourself?
Speaker 3 (54:29):
I would give the film The Baba Duke four bugsies
out of five. Really enjoyed it very much. But they
killed the dog and I'm really sorry. You're not getting
a full You're not getting full marks from me if
you do that. And that is the Leanna promise, mm hmm,
the promise of a law platform, my platform.
Speaker 5 (54:49):
Oh Baba, thank you so much for listening.
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This has been our episode on the bab Women He
Women Uh. You can find us at toss Popcorn on Instagram,
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Speaker 2 (56:27):
I was watching Severance recently. You ever watched the parts?
I don't know. I hear a lot about it. Though
Adam Scott's mouth it is like smaller than his eye.
It is remarkably small, and it's one of the reasons
he looks cartoonish. And I think that he's like somebody
you like to watch. But like I was thinking, I
think Tony Collette has sort of like a huge mouth.
That's what she's sort of known for and things.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
She a wonderful performance.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
Okay, no, but a lot of my spooky performances because
she could be like, ah yeah, true, true. And there
was certainly now that Adam Scott asking him to scream
versus her to scream, the outcomes.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
Are gonna be extremely Yeah, there's a reason Adam Scott
was not in Hereditary.
Speaker 2 (57:08):
He couldn't be casting it because when he tries to
screams like a
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