November 11, 2025 • 56 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Toss Popcorn is a production of iHeartRadio. Ough. Hi. I'm
Leanna Holsten and I'm Sienna Jacole, and welcome hello to
Toss Popcorn, the podcast where two idiots watched every film
on the Are you eating? Oh no, it's on the A.
(00:22):
It's one hundred Greatest American Movies of all Time, the
very slightly less racist tenth anniversary edition, and are now
watching films directed by women. I was plugging my lamp in,
but it's funny to imagine that I was eating off screen.
You were having them a mouthful of cereal. This podcast
(00:43):
is a safe cafe for people who don't know anything
about movies. Today we're watching You've got Mail? What are
you doing? What is that? What are you doing? You're
taking all the caviar. That caviar is a garnish warning.
There will be spoilers about this nostalgic. Yeah, old film,
(01:08):
I mean nineties at least.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, Sienna, had you seen this before?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I had seen it? I think many times?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh wow, yeah, oh my god. Okay, can we start
with your prediction then?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
All right?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Any times? Yeah, oh all right, Oh I'm so interested. Okay, Hi, Leanna,
this is Sienna, I'm about to watch You've Got Mail.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Yeah, I guess I've seen this movie a number of times.
Classic rom com vibes. I predict that Tom Hanks is
putting what's your name's business out out of business. It's
gonna be bookstore vibes. Nineties and cozy. Seems like a
(01:54):
good autumn film.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah. Actually, I hope everything holds up real good and
that it ruppers and love and it's most healthy form.
I love you goodbye. Mm hmmm. Did you know in
saying that that it I didn't remember it, but I
absolutely guessed. I'm like, it's from the nineties. Also, it's
(02:19):
who is it who writes? Who writes these? Nora Fron? Yeah,
so it's Nora Efron. Which there's much lovable about those movies.
They're kind of like the classic rom com. Yeah. So
you can be like, oh, you know, I remember this classic,
but I almost every line that's like a classic line
turns out to be sort of not not a good
(02:39):
vibe now mm hmmmmmm. Anyway, yes, somehow the vibe is bad.
Have you seen this movie? Well, Sienna, let me play
you in my prediction. I would love to hear your prediction. Here.
It is Hi Sienna, it's Leanna. I'm about to watch
You've got mail. Yes, I predict this is a rom com.
(03:00):
I have no idea who's in it. I mean it's
gonna be white people. Yeah, And I predict it might
be about like emails, yes, y two k emails, emails.
Oh can you hear the Australian yelling no, he stopped?
And people falling in love perhaps like a cozy dish
(03:20):
will be shared. No, and the city as a character,
so it's probably said in New York or Chicago or Seattle, huh,
love you by? They really are. Every one of my
roommates who walked by was like, oh my god, I
love this movie Sleepless in Seattle. Well, we can't talk
(03:42):
about it yet.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Hey girl, No, hey girl, what's going on with you
this week? What's happening? Happy November?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Happy November. Let's see.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Okay, Well, I've been thinking of you because you've been
on your little Pilates moment.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Oh yes, Pilate's bitch and I get tattooed on my ass.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
I had a moment recently where I was like, I I'm.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Not I'm not. How do I put this in a
kind way, I'm not as in shape as I was
thinking I was. I just like, in my mind, I'm
exercising a lot more frequently, which would be really helpful
for my lifestyle. Yeah, but like because I've been having
to build a lot of things and move a lot
(04:28):
of things, and I'm like, I'm hurting myself. And then
I realized I'm actually not exercising that much or like
building muscle, you know what I mean. So that's that's
something I need to do. Now. I need to buy
things with protein and uh and uh, I need to
actually be using exercising my muscle. So now I'm kind
(04:50):
of working on that. Oh my god. So I got
sort of following and getting jack I'm following your jacked
kick and I'm starting a jack kick on my own.
We're getting a pump on this this winter. You need
to get a pump on. And then in addition to that, again,
remember I live in a household with for other people,
and so when one person gets sick, we just all
get sick. And no, no, So it's okay, I just
(05:15):
finished a couple of jobs and I got to be
in bed the last couple of days. But of being
in bed, but I don't know if it's gonna be.
If I get sicker, I don't know what I'll do.
Last night, I had to build a talking couch. I
had to build a talking couch for somebody's play, and
I couldn't get out of my car. I was so
(05:35):
like brain fog, like tired. Yeah yeah, but uh but
besides that, honestly, I'm doing good. Yeah. I love The Fall.
You know, say what you will about this movie, but
kind of the reason I think people stick with it
is because it makes you go, it is fall. It's
really fall.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's one thing about this movie is it'll make you
say it is fall, no matter the time of year. Lehanna,
hey girl, in this movie, it is fall. Hey girl.
I'm really confronting my joints these days.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Okay. Have I told you about my shoulder, my big,
my giant shoulder. Not? And I told you about my
big shoulder, my big, my huge shoulder. No, you have
told you about this? Oh my god. I have had
a knot in my shoulder that is so bad that
I can't sleep. Oh.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I had the shoulder pin like a month ago, and
I couldn't sleep on it. And then I finally went
to see a physiotherapist or physio as they called him here,
and he diagnosed that it's it's just a medically huge knot. No,
we did not, so I have to go get it
just like, yeah, this is big.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah. He was like, that's a.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Big knot you said not, I mean your sually it's
a giant and it's like it won't just go away
on its own, like I have to go get it
medically professionally, proud it poked. I have to get like
pressed into a table thirty minutes every once a week.
It's happened twice so far. I have little exercises to
do as well. But I can't sleep on my right side.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
That sucks. It's nuts.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Having a body is one of the stupidest things that
we as humans do. And I'm also I went to
a different physiotherapist, one that's covered by my insurance for
my hips, because you know, those are never where they're
supposed to be. My hips are liars. Actually, they're always lying.
And now what I'm coming up against is the real
(07:33):
question of did I do I actually want to get
better or did I want to just go complain to
a professional about being in pain? Because for both my
shoulder and for my hips. They've given me exercises to
do that will help me feel better.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, Am I doing them?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
No, maybe I'll But what I will say is, I
just got back from picking up some resistance bands love.
I made a purchase. I was very brave.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I made a purchase. I went and I got I
got them. There are these incredibly twee you really got
into loops. I got them.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And so now there's actually genuinely no excuse, and so
I'm gonna learn something about myself, is what I will say. Wow,
in the next week, because I have another appointment with
the physio, and a man at the Palate studio this
morning said he was a physiotherapist for a time and
they always know if you haven't done your exercise.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
He said that, uh huh, they will.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Because I was explaining this exact situation this morning, because
it's really the main thing going on in my life
right now is having joints.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, I'm so sorry, that's what That's what happens all
of a sudden, it's the main thing. Dumb.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It's just so dumb. And I've got a really poppy knee.
But that's been the case forever. But I'm like, Okay,
is this actually a problem and does somebody need to
am I gonna have to find a third physiotherapist for
my knee. Yeah, well, I'm just I'm spending most of
my week going to the physiotherapist.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Off off, Mike. I told you about my foot. My
foot is off, and I just went to acupuncture because
foot is off. The beneath you guys, Her foot's gone.
My foot is off. It's gone. Every now and then,
I really really tweak. Right underneath my right scapula is yours.
Underneath your scapula.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
It is just on the inside of it, between my
spine and my shoulder.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh, it's my rhomboid. I was told.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, I got a naughty rhomboid.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Naughty rhomboid. Naughty romboid, naughty romboid. I feel like that's
a good name for like a it's a good name generally,
like a a hip hop or not a rhomboid. Nice
to media or that guy, Yeah, whoever, that guy is
also interesting. My shoulder phisio is Irish and my hips
phisio is Australia. What does it mean and what does
(09:50):
it mean?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
My joints are being looked at from across around the globe.
Is that kind of like where they are multiple hemispheres.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Where they are on the map. Ah, if my body
was the globe, yeah yeah, my shoulders, my hips are
Australia because it's your left shoulder. Nope, my right shoulder. Okay, yes,
(10:18):
I was gonna say that the the world threw me
from the front. Yeah yeah, wow fast. Physios have the
whole world in their hands. The whole world, I mean
my shoulder and hips to the r Yeah. Well, Leonna,
speaking speaking of things, uh mm hmmm, yeah, speaking of
(10:41):
what problems? Yeah yeah, speaking of problems, whether you view
that it's problematic or just uh uh steaks steaks in
a movie problem. Let's move on to our to our,
to our segments.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah yeah, okay, Seanna, could you please give us a
synopsis of the film You've Got Mail?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yes, yes, you can hear the tiredness and my writing
of it. Oh beautiful, You've Got Mail. Meg Ryan and
Tom Hanks are pen pals via email. Woo actually aol
oh yeah, and business competitors, but they don't know that
(11:35):
both those things are true. Whoa Hank's is a big
superstore corporate guy and Ryan is little shop around the
corner homespun lady. So it's sort of like they're they're
they're doing their type in they're doing their thing. And
then they both go about their life and fall in
New York and they don't even know the other exists.
(11:56):
And then Ryan is saying, this big Barnes and Noble
type place is moving in in Fox Books and it's
gonna try to put us out of business, but gosh
darn it, it won't. And they she meets him Joe
Fox is a joke whenever Fox for Fox Books. She goes, Oh,
come on you, you really suck. You know what, You're
a terrible person. But then she goes to she texts.
(12:18):
She goes and types to the little the little pen
pal and says, but I think you're so sensitive little
Does she know you're the same guy? What does it mean? Anyway,
she fights hard so they won't put her out of business. Unfortunately,
they do put her out of business. The big superstore wins. Eventually,
(12:38):
Tom Hanks actually realizes that she is indeed his pen pal.
They go to meet. At one point she's already sitting there.
He goes up. He goes, oh, oh no, oh damn
it yay and uh. But then he has the information
for longer than she does, and he realizes, I have
been a dick. I need to make it, I need
to be I need to become her friend. Unfortunately, he
(13:00):
becomes her friend mainly by comforting her about the messages
which he is writing and we'll talk about that. But
eventually they fall in love because hey, they have been
like each other's main confidant since the beginning. Yeah, but
also he put her out of business. What the fuck, dude.
(13:21):
It's so so nineties, from the outfits, to the workplaces,
to the things they're talking about the world becoming which
it was absolutely right, the world did become that, oh yeah,
oh yeah, and to the warm lighting. It is a
very nineties film the end. Yeah. Can I be honest, Yes,
(13:47):
I did not like this movie, you know. Can I
be honest, Yes, My memory of this movie was very
eye roll, and watching it this time, I was like,
I actually get it. Whoaw. But I have to say
that's after watching it actually a lot of times. So
I think it just like broke me to the other
side where I've watched it through the eyes of like
(14:09):
this is stupid and problematic and this time around, I
was like, I love Fall Wow, And I actually noticed
a couple of ways it was more nuanced than I remember.
Isn't that weird? Isn't that weird to call anything about
this film nuanced? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, yeah it is, But I got I guess it.
To your defense, I guess what I should.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Also say is that, like everything I was gonna take
with a grain of salt, I already knew about, So
nothing surprised makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.
Oh okay, well, but yeah, I think that's a very
valid feeling about this movie completely. Is your borderline live
(14:50):
in partner really excited to get on the computer as
soon as you leave, you should probably fall in love
with somebody else. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Let's turn the page into our phone notes, where we
read the notes the other person took on their phone
while watching the film.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, oh my god, I have like sort of a
lot so just just just a lot too.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I guess I just had I kept having opinions.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Oh yes, a big question, Sianna, you asked, Leanna, did
you ever I am or send chain emails, et cetera. Absolutely,
Gmail took our elementary school.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
By still mail. Oh yeah, absolutely. My parents tried to
get me another email and I said, no, I want
a Gmail and they didn't understand why, and I explain,
it's because we were doing things where I am.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
At the email of the moment. Yeah, you could put
a status. And did you ever do that thing where
you got like a you downloaded icons and made those
your like status image?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
That was really big. I don't know if I, but
I used a lot of them, little car.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I was downloading, I was downloading things and I was iming.
I have I ever told you this story about I
guess we'll bleep his name.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I don't know, maybe you did. He was my big.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Crush in elementary school and we started a DM situation ship.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I had a situationship back then. I was in a
situationship via Gmail. That's honestly, we were. We were iming
all the time. What did they call it on Gmail? Gmail?
G chat? We were g chatting. Yeah, maybe that's it consistantly.
And he famously in elementary school had a huge crush
on my best friend, one of my best friends, and then,
(16:44):
oh god, over the course of our messaging, he would
he informed me at the end of one of our chats.
One day he said, btw, I like eighty percent and
you twenty percent? Now what the freak?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Okay, but that's okay, but he used to like her
one yeah, And the percentages slowly over time, and we
wonder why now I don't value myself?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
You know? That is the most middle school I think
the difference between the artists and the normal people are
if your middle school romance experiences affected you. And I
genuinely think that in a deep psychological way, because people
who are just super chill will be like, oh, yeah, like, yeah,
(17:29):
I had I had quote unquote boyfriends when I was like,
that doesn't count. And I'm like the fact that you
think that means a lot about your experience.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I'm like, I had somebody who liked me twenty percent, yeah,
and was happy to tell me that.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And I said, and I remember that, and I remember that.
Were you g chatting? I love to g chat? Yeah,
I loved g chat. I was mostly g chatting my
softball friends from other schools, which made me feel really
cool that I knew people from other schools because I wasn't.
That is very cool. That was what was like the
mark of a cool thing when you went to. I
don't know if it's at any school or particularly when
(18:06):
you went to like a private Catholic school. To know
people from the outside was like really cool. Yeah, I
think it's always cool to appear worldly. Yeah, someone from
another school. How do you feel about my Grian?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You know, happy for her that she had this amazing
career of rom coms.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't think I have
a strong opinion. I think she does a really good
job in them. I like my problem with the movies
is never with her. Yeah, yeah, how about you. I
think I feel similarly. I think she does a good job. Yeah,
she could. It could be the adorable thing can be
(18:52):
sort of like eye roll. But I think she doesn't
make me necessarily feel super iroll. But there are moments, yeah,
where I always feel it's more the writing than it
is her performance of it. Yeah, they're good when they're good.
Combo for these things. When he was like, what are
you doing in that photo and she goes twirling, you
know that really made me laugh too. Twirling I'm twirling, Okay, Well,
(19:17):
yeah that's what I Yeah, but I guess he ask
the keyst thing you could do? Okay, Leon I'm gonna read.
I'm gonna read some of your notes. You've said, wasp
ask wasp asked dog name, brinnan Lee Brinkley.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
This film was very wasp culture in many ways. Brinkley Brinkley,
I've never heard of that as a name for a dog.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
People be naming their dogs crazy things. What did you
think of the dog? Did you notice that there was
a dog? The dog seemed like a good dog, you know,
I noticed because they had some shots just on the
dog for about ten seconds at a time, and you
couldn't not see the dog that is a dog. Yeah, okay, wait, Leonna,
you've said I love these people who can't wait to
go have fun on the computer.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
At the beginning, I was kind of like, yes, they're
both kind of waiting for their roommate or like significant.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Other, just whoever's in their mat. They have their romantic
learner who they're kind of cheating on.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, yeah, they're just waiting for them to leave so
they can go have fun on the computer.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
And I was like, yeah, yeah, I get that. I
totally get that.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Like if I was going to be home alone or
something when I was growing up, and I knew I
was going to be able to just like veg in
front of the Disney Channel with my hint of lime chip.
This that my excitement level was as theirs was to
go have an emotional affair on the computer.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
And that's how I did used to feel about messaging. Yeah, Leanna,
you said she carried a pumpkin to work. I need
to get into a much more whimsical mindset.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Really, I was realizing over the course of the film,
I'm not in the space that I need to be
in to enjoy this right, and that was maybe carrying
a particularly clear when a woman showed up to work
with a pumpkin in hand, in.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Arm, Yeah, an armful of pump It brought just a
pumpkin to work. Maybe No, maybe for one of your jobs.
I haven't No, well, actually no, but I see what
you mean. That's completely possible. Actually, I'm not ruling. I
think one day you might. Leanna, we have to talk
(21:18):
about this. We have to talk about this. You've said
they had Starbucks in the nineties, girl, absolutely, Starbucks was
it was the night it came out in the nineties,
and that's when they started the whole like takeaway coffee
thing in like a big way. Completely changed coffee culture
it used to be. I was going to ask if
you remember it from when we were kids, because we
(21:38):
would go there.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
If don't you remember the nineties, I remember the early
two thousands. I remember Starbucks in the two thousands, right,
But I would say, no, it existed in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Late nineties, early two thousands. I would say, kind of culturally.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I would say, I probably don't have memories from before
two thousand and six.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
So I wouldn't know. Yeah, I see, but I had
no idea. It to me, just screams mid Mid aunts
the concept of a Starbucks. It felt kind of jarring.
I was. I had to look up what year this
was made because they were obsessed with it too. They
kept showing big shots of it. It was like, oh yeah,
huge advertisement for it. Ironic.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
They used to have good food promoting an independent bookstore,
but then absolutely sledting out a Starbucks.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
But then the Barnes and Noble kind of wins and
she ends up going to see the kids area, and
she's like, fine with it. This is good, which I
are doing good things. There's like the nuance to that
is that it's like the world goes on even as
things change and become worse, Like there's still kids enjoying themselves,
but it's there was a lot of this movie that
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was like superstores are going to take over and make
the world impersonal and like make business is worse. And
they're right, that did happen. That literally happened, and it
is way worse.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Oh, by the way, Also the New York of it all,
you're so right that the city is a character and
literally a few times so you're enjoying seeing autumn in
New York and then a few times they go like
don't you just love New York and autumn. We're like, okay,
we get it. And then later he also says to
her like I hope you get better soon because she's sick.
Later he's like, I hope you can get better soon.
You don't want to miss New York in the spring, Like, guys,
(23:19):
just get over yourselves. It's a great city. It feels
great to be there. Yeah, but you know you can't
have every month.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, I guess they don't. I guess New York in
the winter is like garbage and then really bad in
the summer. So I guess they're like when I was
in New York half the year. When I was in
New York, people.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Would be like, there's no summer like New York summer.
There is no summer like New York summer. So they're
obsessed with every season. Just don't They're right, but they're
they're using the wrong tone exactly. They need to be
saying it with fears. I don't like how you're saying
that the streets smell like garbage. It is very It's
like vapors, vapors everywhere, and you say the vapors, what
(23:59):
is this coming from something? I don't like that my
face is when it's not just humidity, it's coming from
the city. Right, that's not good, Leona, you said sorry,
she runs an independent children's bookstore and she lives in
that apartment.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Need to get into the whimsical mindset. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Every time I was like sorry, and the ibub I
was like no, no, no, remember whimsical mindset.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah. Stop. You can't question then because you have to
just be in a whimsical mindset. A children's bookstore in
New York City, I'm sorry, are you fucking Manhattan? Yeap
on the Upper West Side? That's not that wasn't making
are you? Are you? And she shops at z Bars? What? Yeah,
that makes no sense. Oh my god, that makes no sense.
I was I just I guess. I guess I'm really
(24:46):
not in the mood for love right now. And so
as a result because a male comedian hurt my feelings,
which is so degrading. But as a as a result,
anything to do with that, anything where it's like her
is so so quirky, her home is so beautiful, all
of it. I'm like, shut up, no, it's not. None
(25:06):
of this is real life is hell, that's not real.
It's it gets dark at four pm. Now, it is true.
It's terrible. I mean she is sort of like she
is sort of like in a dream state all the time.
And when she lost her work there, I was like, girl,
I love that you're gonna like go find yourself, but
do you have a degree? Like this is your mom's store.
(25:28):
What are you gonna do? All you did was twirl
and then run the store your mom started. Fortunately, in
this universe, you're famous because you have a children's bookstore.
Oh right, so everyone wants to give you a job. Now,
I don't know. Okay, love this, Leanna, you said, I
am aligned with all of Greg Kadeer's opinions. Man, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Know he's supposed to be the like annoying, I know,
the borderline conspiracy theorist guy.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
But he's just right everything. He's right. He actually is
a way more in this film are correct for today.
He is the only one who's really aligned with today,
except for the fact that he also is complicit in
there in your thirties nineties New York cheating of it all.
That's true. I don't know why those characters always are
(26:16):
just like I guess. I guess just being non monogamous
was the was the default. I don't know. I don't know.
They're like living with their partners, yeah, in full on,
but just having emotional affairs. Yeah yeah. And they were
just like afterwards when they break up and they've been
together for like at least a year, Yeah, they're like
(26:37):
basically living together. When they eventually break up, they're like,
so is there someone else?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Completely chill.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
But I loved him so much. He was insane. He
got really excited about a typewriter.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Girl. I looked at a typewriter that was on sale
on a used like furniture website this week, and I
considered it we should start doing our podcast on a typewriter. Honestly,
we're basically doing that name because we don't have a
video element. Yeah, and all her podcast doesn't exist. What
podcasts have become? I don't think what this is a
(27:12):
podcast legally speaking. Leoni you said, closing the computer is
so real? Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
When she's pen paling and then he says should we meet?
And she goes oh and shuts the computer and walks away,
that's so so real. Yeah, that's like any anytime somebody
likes me on hinge.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
H, I go oh, close the app, throw the phone,
so I left, I throw my phone in the sea.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, yeah, I really Yeah. I yearn for a lot
of elements of that era that I spent not that
many years existing during.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Right right, Well, I'll try.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
To undisclosed number of years because I'm not I'm not
telling you which part of that decade I showed up during.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, Leanna you said, how did her anger at him
manage to be misogynist? Yes? Is this when she's like,
it's like an entire generation of Coga waitresses. Oh these
stupid young bitches. Hell was that? Like? Okay, what the
hell I'm sorry angry at a man.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You're angry at a male CEO who lied to you,
and you're comparing him to young women.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I know.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
In this scathing way that was wild. What also, that
hadn't been like a feat of motif during the film. No,
was that just something that was going on in the nineties. Also,
those young women were like, my name is it's Sanet.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It's okay not to say your last name when you
introduce yourself to someone. I actually don't know what she's
talking about. I had no idea what she was talking.
I didn't say hello, my name is Siena J. Cole
to everybody I meet. That's weird. Was that something from
the past that people were doing so you could find
them in the phone book? And I feel like, I
hope most most people these days they under stand that
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when you're when you're when you're talking about another generation,
you're also talking about someone who's twenty two. Their brain
is different. Yeah, girl, you're smarter. Yeah, yeah, you're in
your late thirties. Let it go, let it go, brutal,
late thirties. She is, I looked it up. She's thirty
seven movie. Never mind, that's fine to say then Oh
(29:21):
my gosh, I love that you just met a new guy. Giry. Okay,
so does he lied to you recently? Oh? Oh he has? Okay?
Is he corporate swilled? Did he? Is he like a
sort of a billionaire vibe? Oh? He? Oh he is? Okay, Well,
surely he didn't put you out of business though, oh
he did. All right, I'm going to give you three
minutes to sort of rethink your your options here. We'll
(29:43):
be right back, okay, Leonnah, I'm gonna go through some
of your final notes. You've said. Okay, well you said
office move triggered.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, when she's in the empty store, I was like,
oh wait, Leani, you said why and how does she
have a piano?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I don't remember that. Was she moving a piano? No,
she just has a piano in her apartment. That is
so insane. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That's so nineties. That's so that is so when the
economy was in a different, maybe more achievable place, you
could just have a piano. Nobody just has a piano. No,
you have a keyboard. If you have to do music
for your profession.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
You have to be a piano planted if you have
a piano, because how are you gonna move a piano? Also,
never saw you play that? Used to like storage at
someone's house, at someone's house at Yeah, it was at
the rich one's house, Bertie Leon. Your final note is Okay,
I didn't like that. Sorry, Yeah, I get that. Sorry.
(30:54):
I like to Toral. I like to Tora, and I
love this man who I'm talking to online. Would he
breaks down the Godfather? Okay? I guess we should get
into badges and trages. Oh, I mean kill him with
a gun please. Yeah, the Godfather is everything. Let me
explain it to you, which I have to say, they
kind of do an accurate job of showing like what
(31:16):
messaging on like hinges like, because that is the kind
of thing it'll be.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Like.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Let me break down for you in a quirky way
why the Godfather is so good and you have to go, wow,
that's crazy. Are you watching the Godfather? I don't really
agree with that, but I guess we should go on
to be anyway because it is so slim pickens in
this town.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, definitely, this early version of what is with men?
And the Godfather walked so that Bobby could run, so
that what could have made me want to rewatch Barbie Harby.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well, Godfather, should we go on to
our badges and trages? Because I feel like we can
discuss further the tragic elements of this have.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Several I have several of both absolutely rally through it.
You are in my notes as anonymous Dumbo octopus. I
just finished reading a book about it, octopus which one
it's called remarkably bright creepy.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Sure are you freaking kidding me?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I was thinking that you would like it because it's
set in Washington, Yeah, and they have a view of
the Puget Sound.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I actually I liked it because it was about a
lonely woman. I actually listened to the audiobook, and I
bet that's fun. It is fun because the woman reading it,
she actually does a good job at changing the voices.
And every time she does what his name cam? She
goes like this, she looks like that.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Ye, that's him, that's absolutely him. Did she Marcellus the
Octopus with a British accent?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Oh? Actually he was because I was picturing it. He
was actually just read by a man at it and
that is the only one. And the Scottish guy she
would do a Scottish accent. Oh hell, and then I
think that the boss is supposed to be Jamaican and
she just skipped that.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Good So she did a good job. She's late, Okay,
made all the correct choices.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yep, that's right. Yep. Kind of too bad that they
didn't just get somebody in here. I know, if they
were gonna get an octopus, but they couldn't find a
Jamaican voice actor. But they're like, we're gonna work with
what we got and we're going as possible. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, oh my god, I literally finished it last night.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
That is so crazy cute. Oh my gosh. Okay, welcome
to badges and trages where we give badges for bookstores
that are independent and trages for tricking, tricking women, tricking women,
tricking women. And that's what you did. Oh, I have
(33:43):
a badge for a dog. Yeah, this was lucky you,
lucky you, lucky me. Badge for nineties Cafe Vibes ASMR
is what I wrote, because you know they have those
like YouTube things, like videos that are like yeah, lo
fi eleven hanging out in a coffee shop and it's
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the nineties and it's warm. That is what this movie is.
I think, like, this is if you're gonna if you
keep watching it. The reason is because you're like, oh,
I miss when when the lighting was warm and that
I could actually buy a delicious piscatti. That's one thing
that also you gotta love about New York. They have
real bakeries there. It's hard to find a good bakery
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in the United States of America. Yeah, I get that.
I get that.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
La was the corner from where we stayed in Brooklyn
that had the best cinnamon buns ever had.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
LA only has gentrified bakeries in my area, which is
a very gentrified area. Uh, it's like, it's like this,
but the cinnamon roll is shipped in and too sweet.
Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, where can I
find somewhere where it's bag fucking pastries getting shipped in.
It's really grim. It's really grim. I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
A badge for look at this dog. Okay, I don't
think that's gonna be the last one.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
This is funny because this shows our priorities, because my
next badge is tea party slash Scones. This is a dream.
You're noticing the dodge, I'm noticing the baked goods. Okay,
my next badges look at all these dogs. Yay, there
were so many dogs in the background of the movie.
I loved that. I have a badge for two Harry
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Nilsen songs because I really like Harry Nelson a lot. Okay,
I will he's the one who sing he he did
do the music for Midnight Cowboy, but don't think about that.
He also he's the one who sing the I Want
a Puppy, the song that for some reason, it's about
a puppy at the beginning, and then he sings in
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New York City. He has a beautiful voice. I love
when men have beautiful voices. Oh. I have a.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Badge for this iconic woman who's also in Miscongeniality shop
assistant I love and miss Congeniality, who says her perfect
date is April twenty fifth. Yeah, I love her.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I think she's great. I will also take this moment
to give a badge for the casting that it's the
cast is very funny. Oh. And that's another reason I
think that despite its problematic elements and stupidity, this movie,
like it is, there's many elements that are very good
and watchable because the cast is really good. It's really funny.
(36:30):
Parker posey, come on, Steve zan Steve Zann when the
whole bookstore comes in and they're like, hey, you stood
you up. Oh that was fun. It's fun. It's fun. Oh,
a badge for a map of Ireland on the wall
of the wasp party they go to where they where
she finds out he's actually Joe Fox Love love a map. Okay,
(36:53):
I will give a badge in all his deceit. In
the plan that he coordinated in which they would get
lunch and he would reveal his feelings and then she
would meet actual him at four pm. In this plan
that he created, at the very end, he accounted enough
time for her to change and process a little bit.
I give a badge for that because I was, like,
to be honest, if a man actually did this, and
(37:15):
I'm not trying to just be cruel a generalist, but
I do think this is true. If a man actually
planned this, he would have planned it for like lunch
at twelve and they meet at one, which would give
her no time to change and get cute for her
date and also not give her time to like think
about it a little bit and just like put it
behind her. Yeah, knew a lunch and then four pm,
(37:35):
perfect amount of time. So he was thoughtful in that way.
And that's how you can tell it was actually written
by a woman because she had to change, She had
a change to address, she had to get ready. Yep,
a badge for a picture of Puppy Brinkley on Tam
Hanks's bedside table. That was so cute. My final badge
because I guess I wrapped them up is I wrote
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this earlier on. But there's actually a more nuance in
this film than I remember. The reason I had not
good associations is because I thought of it as being very,
very dumb. But there were a few things and both
those include the fact that she sells the store, which
is incredibly tragic. I get why they did it this time,
(38:18):
where it's like she needs this has been her whole life.
She just did what her mom did basically, and like
she kind of needs to find herself. Okay, I guess
that's more interesting than it being Hallmark style, and she
just like gets the store at the end. And then
I did notice that he tried not to lie to her,
for at the beginning, he tries not to lie to
her because when he's texting, when he types or when
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he responds to why he was gone, he's like, I
actually can't tell you yet. And everything he says is true,
it is true. So I was like, oh, I didn't
realize that before. I guess he's not lying to her.
But then he forms a friendship. He forms a friendship
with her later that's completely one hundred percent founded on
her talking about her loved her lover lover, and that's
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him like planting new weird thing you hate. It was
where the seat came in in a big way. Yeah,
I was like, brother, why brother, you almost made it
to the home stretch. You almost made it to the
home stretch without home stretch, without being a dick. Hmm.
You almost respected her, but you didn't so close.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
My final badges are a badge for Steve Zann saying
the line, I gotta get some eucalyptus candles because it
makes my apartment smell mossy.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I love him. I love A badge for bad bars,
A badge for the stuffed animal babars that they had
behind the counter at the bookstore. Some of the books
they had in the background excellent because they were from
our childhood m and then a badge for doggies a
badge for a tiny dog, and my final badge is
Brinkley because he's very involved in the last scene. He
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is very involved. Trages, trages, a trage that this movie
was not streaming anywhere I had to pay. I was
very surprised at that as well. Come on, what is
the point having a billion streaming services? And Tom Hanks
should be stuff freely. There should be like a tam
Hanks streaming platform. Tom Hanks is like watch be like
(40:15):
HBO Max accessible to all everywhere. Tom Hanks is a
human right, a basic human right. Yeah. Trage for this
movie is afraid of a world that is indeed our
actual world. Now the bad corporate stuff did explicitly have
it happened. Uh, this guy Joe Fox was going to
become a billionaire and he would be part of the
(40:38):
class of the one percent that took us down. He
would absolutely have been funding Andrew Cuomo's campaign for mayor
Oh my god, Joe Fox for Cuomo. Trage for Boom
that is about Dave Chappelle. Ouse he became a transphobic asshole.
(40:59):
Yeah yep, And now every time he's in a film,
I have to boo whenever he speaks all of his Yeah,
all of his jokes are so mhmm the same. Uh
A trade for the line about an entire generation of
cocktail waitresses. Girl, just be you don't have to say that.
(41:20):
What are you talking about? I trade for twirling? I
was twirlingling? Sorry what we were twirling? Okay, right, she said,
as if she invented twirling. Girl, everybody's twirled. Have you
not heard of a dervish? I guess they're whirling? Whirling?
Is twirling enough? M hm h trad for the ententification
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of the world. It just makes me so sad that
Starbucks used to be a nice place to be. I
remember it growing up, going after church, sitting in the
comfy chairs and eating delicious pastries. And they don't have
that anymore. You can't get anything good to eat at Starbucks. Nothing.
He's comfy. They don't want you to be comfortable. No,
they want you to leave, and the food is And
it's really sad. But trage for that wasn't really charming
(42:08):
at all. The scene at Ze Bars, where the concept
of it is that tam Hawks charms the cashier into
allowing Magryan to pay with a credit card. He's not
really being he's kind of just being rude. I know,
I thought he was just gonna have cash be like,
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I'll pay for it, me too, But why didn't they
do that? He charms this woman who had a beautiful
smile by the way, kind of just like bullies. Yeah,
I didn't like it, and he used his like elite
rich boy status. I would not like that. I would
not like that alf I were her trag for she
had to be she had to be pretty. Did not
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like that. There's this little freak gube of like it
just disgusts It disgusts me. There was some one thing
deeply the thing that makes us scared about about how
heterosexual male culture works. This is like the kind of
stereotype around it that's playing into, which is that he's
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like because I liked her and she's nice to talk to,
I knew she had to be attractive in the way
that I value. I knew it. I knew it. If
she wasn't, that wouldn't make sense to me, because how
could I like a girl and think she's cool if
she's not incredibly hot in the way that I value.
That is what it was saying. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, that is what he was saying. Yeah, I
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didn't like it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
My next trage is for in that same scene Dave
Chappelle saying she could be a real dog twice.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah. Yeah. Trage for calling her a bitch, which he does,
or he says like, yeah, she could be a bitch.
Don't say that, Tom Hanks. I do not like to
hear you say that word. Do not say that word.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Trage for men are cowards. He won't even go up
to the restaurant without having his friend go first and
tell him if.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
She's hot or not. Yeah, because he's afraid, and then
he won't tell her the truth for the rest of
the film, and are such cower uh. Trage for talking
down to Huan on the phone when he's in the elevator.
He picks up the phone, He's like, hello, who is
this Huan? Okay, now call nine one one, yes, nine
one one yeaheah, that's the fire department. Okay, all right, right,
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it was loaded. Yeah. Trage for this movie was too long.
I paused it to go pee, and I was like,
it was twenty five minutes left. It's oh, it was long.
It is two full hours. It doesn't need that. No,
and my final trage is trage for their entire friendship
is founding founded upon lying. He tries to become her
friend to make sure that that he can be a
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good person before they before they actually date eventually, and
but that friendship is founded upon lies instead of just
being founded upon their their common interests. No good, No good.
My next tradge is a trage for dramatic irony. I
don't like dramatic irony. I don't like know any things
before characters know them. I find it very stressful. It's
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unsettling for you. I hate it. I hate it.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Trad for how does he know where she lives? He
shows up at her apartment with flowers? If the man
who put my business out of business showed up at
my home with flowers, I'd say, how did you get
this address?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
I'm calling? I don't know. I wouldn't call the police
because they would decide with him. But uh, I'd call someone.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Trad for why won't he tell her the truth? I
don't like this. A trage for fat phobia. When they're guessing,
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
God, all the reasons his handle might be the handle
that it is a trade for it was, and they're
eating octopus. Now that's because I just finished Remarkably Bright
Creature and I've decided, actually, yeah, we should not be.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Eating remarkably bright. Those animals are smart. They're smart. Well,
I think a lot of animals feel way, but there
is something about octopi that they like extremely feel it.
They are like, oh so many, oh god, oh god,
a trade for playing the song somewhere over the rainbow.
By this point in the movie, I was like, shut up.
And then my final tragedy is he's such a freak.
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This guy's a freak. He's a freak. It's freaky. He's
a rich he's a rich weirdo. He's probably been to
islands that you don't want to know about. Oh that's
all I'll say, Sorry, dark Leona. Let's move on to
our next segment, which is, of course, how to pretend
You've seen this? Or this is when you're just trying
(46:26):
to enjoy a nice walk through the park in autumn,
you're having a.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Nice Well, it's called how to pretend You've seen this film?
He said, how to pretend you've seen this? Or And
our next segment, should you watch this film?
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Help me, help help how to pretend you've seen this?
Or have you seen this? Or how to pretend you've
seen this film. You're walking through the park. It's autumn.
You're enjoying a nice, beautifully self performative afternoon, just walking
around looking, peeping the leaves, and Tam comes up to
(47:07):
you and uh, he goes, Oh, can't help noticing that
you like the leaves here, but you know where the
leaves are the best? New York. Oh, New York in
the fall. New York in the fall is so good,
So is so is spring? And summer you just can't
beat it. Winter's okay, But you got to be in
New York for all these or your life isn't isn't real?
(47:28):
Life isn't real. It's here. I'm gonna tell you all
about this movie that I just saw about this really
brave guy he he he manages to still to be
a really loving partner to this woman even though she
runs a really stupid bookstore, and he does everything he can.
I really feel like we should try to like understand
(47:49):
rich guys a little bit more. And I'm going to
tell you all about this movie. It's called it's called
You've Got Mail.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
And in order to log Tam off, we are going
to give you a few sentences as you can say,
to pretend you've seen the film You've Got Mail. Yes, Tam,
I've seen You've Got Mail. Goodbye. And then I put
in my headphones and I play the song Dreams by
the Cranberry's, which was in the movie.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Changing every day in every possible way. Yes, Tam, I
have seen the film You've Got Mail. I was wondering
about where it was shot because it was such a
cute little space, and it seems like it was actually
filmed in New York and or even the shop, and
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indeed the children's bookstore scenes were filmed at Maya Shaper's
Cheese and Antique shop at Little six West sixty ninth Street.
And then this trivia piece goes on to say like, oh, yeah,
they wanted the antique shop because it's quaint and homye,
but but how was it cheese and cheese? Please tell
me cheese and antiques? Interesting? I guess cheese is antique milk?
(49:11):
So true? Oh, Tam, of course I've seen You've Got Mail. Please.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
I wish we could suck. We could talk about something
relevant for today, like the luddite movement in nineteenth century England.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Okay, Greg Kinnear, sure, yes, I have seen the film. Yes, Tam,
I have seen the film You've Got Mail. I think
many of us know Tom Hanks collects typewriters. Little fun
fact about Tom Hanks. And also Meg Ryan got her
(49:47):
very first computer during this film. So okay, real period moment,
imagine that time, just truly. I can't imagine a time
where devices aren't everywhere. Actually, cannot imagine. I know.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Oh, Tam, of course, yes I've seen You've Got Mail.
I have to go now. I got to get some
eucalyptus candles because it makes my apartment smell mossy. That's
so fun that is Wasn't he the main character?
Speaker 1 (50:17):
I loved him. What's going on with him? I want
to see it into his life? Oh no, oh this
is oh god, it's just a funny, Hollywood like success
story of like, oh that's good that you maybe screwed
someone else over. Uh. Yes, Tam, I have seen the
(50:38):
film You've Got Mail. The movie was originally titled You
Have Mail, but it changed after Warner Bros. Consultant a
Warner Bros. Consultant found that AOL never trademarked it's famous
You've got male greeting because they were They were like, oh,
it's trademark. Probably then they found that it wasn't. They're like, hell, yeah,
we're gonna use You've Got Mail, first recorded by Elwood
Edwards in nineteen eighty nine. Edwards's agent, Unsuccessful, tried to
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get him a voice credit on the movie Why unsuccessful,
Just give the man a credit.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
That's like how our podcast was originally supposed to have
a better name. Yeah, and probably could have. We were
going to.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Say, yeah, what are they gonna do now, sue us.
We're talking into a typewriter right now, we are typewriting
a podcast. Oh can we move on now? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Okay, Sienna, let's do this one. Let's do Should you
watch this or which is where we tell you our audience,
if we think you should watch this movie or if
you should do something else with your time?
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Tam Tam Hanks. I'll go first. No, awesome, you don't
need to watch You've Got Mail. What you could do
instead is you could read the book Remarkably Bright Creatures
by Shelby Van Pelt. But really, what you must do
is hit up your local independent bookstore and buy something
(52:02):
from there, because God, the world is hell. Go support
the little guys. Yeah, okay, well I would say you could.
You could watch this movie. I do think it's it
does scratch an itch of if you're looking for the
like nostalgic nineties autumn and New York vibe, this does
(52:23):
scratch an itch and it's got its problems, But a
lot of other automan New York back in the day
was captured by like, for example, Woody Allen, and this
is better than that, So you know, it's like, it
is what it is. It's very it's very ram commy vibe,
and it makes you nostalgic for a time when maybe
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creative work was invested in a little bit more. And
movies from the nineties always make me nostalgic a because
I was a child then, right for some portion of it,
or early two thousands, but also because I think they
literally did just invest in the movie in warm movies
in a different way. And I've been enjoying some kind
of older content recently, especially animated stuff, because they used
(53:09):
to again pay artists even a little bit. Then we
always think they're not getting paid, and then people get
their cut paid cut even more and we're like, what,
I guess we were a little bit. But I just
recently watched James and the Giant Peach and I remember
that movie kind of freaking me out, but it was
actually really it's really Good's a good Halloween film. Yeah,
that's another spider. Yeah, she's absolutely serving, voiced by Susan Saran.
(53:34):
Then I did not know. Oh yeah, explain, so that's
another good one. Yeah, if you're looking to be nostalgic
for a different time when things were maybe a little
less shitty somehow, like like shitty, like shoddy, they were
a little ruler.
Speaker 5 (53:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
Yeah, anyway, Leanna, what would you rate this movie? I
will give you've got mail. There's stuff I liked about it.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Yeah, I'll give it two to work pumpkins out of five.
I did not like this man's behavior, and I'm not
in the mood to watch people be happily in love.
But I loved the dog and the other dogs. And
they did capture a a autumnal sense, right, that was nice.
(54:22):
And there were little moments that did make me giggle,
and I did I like a lot of the actors
who are in good cast. Yeah, Seanna, what would you
like Did you give it again two to work pumpkins
out of five.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
I'm gonna give this movie three point five biscotti out
of five. I liked it more than I thought I
was going to. Actually, I thought I was gonna be
more annoyed by stuff. But you know what, I had
a good dumb time. Yes, wow, as is your right.
I'm getting I'm getting to be a softie in my
old sore aching age. I've been referring to my body
(54:58):
as my old bones. Late. Our joints are not good
right now on this podcast bad joints. Well, we didn't.
Oh my god, that's it, even though all of my
technology was failing me this whole time, because it's desperately
trying to go back to a time where there was
no technology. It's yearning, it's pining. Well, thank you everybody
so much for listening. This has been our opinions about
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And that's it. Right, then join us next week when
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Speaker 5 (55:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Probably so timely. This is so timely. It is. Do
you know about this? Oh? I can't wait to talk
about this. Oh my god. Okay, all right, we'll talk
about it next week. Okay, okay, oh, thank you, We
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I was not in the mood. Did you just keep
going ugh? Yes,
Toss Popcorn is a production of iHeartRadio. Ough. Hi. I'm
Leanna Holsten and I'm Sienna Jacole, and welcome hello to
Toss Popcorn, the podcast where two idiots watched every film
on the Are you eating? Oh no, it's on the A.
(00:22):
It's one hundred Greatest American Movies of all Time, the
very slightly less racist tenth anniversary edition, and are now
watching films directed by women. I was plugging my lamp in,
but it's funny to imagine that I was eating off screen.
You were having them a mouthful of cereal. This podcast
(00:43):
is a safe cafe for people who don't know anything
about movies. Today we're watching You've got Mail? What are
you doing? What is that? What are you doing? You're
taking all the caviar. That caviar is a garnish warning.
There will be spoilers about this nostalgic. Yeah, old film,
(01:08):
I mean nineties at least.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, Sienna, had you seen this before?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I had seen it? I think many times?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh wow, yeah, oh my god. Okay, can we start
with your prediction then?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
All right?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Any times? Yeah, oh all right, Oh I'm so interested. Okay, Hi, Leanna,
this is Sienna, I'm about to watch You've Got Mail.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Yeah, I guess I've seen this movie a number of times.
Classic rom com vibes. I predict that Tom Hanks is
putting what's your name's business out out of business. It's
gonna be bookstore vibes. Nineties and cozy. Seems like a
(01:54):
good autumn film.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah. Actually, I hope everything holds up real good and
that it ruppers and love and it's most healthy form.
I love you goodbye. Mm hmmm. Did you know in
saying that that it I didn't remember it, but I
absolutely guessed. I'm like, it's from the nineties. Also, it's
(02:19):
who is it who writes? Who writes these? Nora Fron? Yeah,
so it's Nora Efron. Which there's much lovable about those movies.
They're kind of like the classic rom com. Yeah. So
you can be like, oh, you know, I remember this classic,
but I almost every line that's like a classic line
turns out to be sort of not not a good
(02:39):
vibe now mm hmmmmmm. Anyway, yes, somehow the vibe is bad.
Have you seen this movie? Well, Sienna, let me play
you in my prediction. I would love to hear your prediction. Here.
It is Hi Sienna, it's Leanna. I'm about to watch
You've got mail. Yes, I predict this is a rom com.
(03:00):
I have no idea who's in it. I mean it's
gonna be white people. Yeah, And I predict it might
be about like emails, yes, y two k emails, emails.
Oh can you hear the Australian yelling no, he stopped?
And people falling in love perhaps like a cozy dish
(03:20):
will be shared. No, and the city as a character,
so it's probably said in New York or Chicago or Seattle, huh,
love you by? They really are. Every one of my
roommates who walked by was like, oh my god, I
love this movie Sleepless in Seattle. Well, we can't talk
(03:42):
about it yet.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Hey girl, No, hey girl, what's going on with you
this week? What's happening? Happy November?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Happy November. Let's see.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Okay, Well, I've been thinking of you because you've been
on your little Pilates moment.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Oh yes, Pilate's bitch and I get tattooed on my ass.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
I had a moment recently where I was like, I I'm.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Not I'm not. How do I put this in a
kind way, I'm not as in shape as I was
thinking I was. I just like, in my mind, I'm
exercising a lot more frequently, which would be really helpful
for my lifestyle. Yeah, but like because I've been having
to build a lot of things and move a lot
(04:28):
of things, and I'm like, I'm hurting myself. And then
I realized I'm actually not exercising that much or like
building muscle, you know what I mean. So that's that's
something I need to do. Now. I need to buy
things with protein and uh and uh, I need to
actually be using exercising my muscle. So now I'm kind
(04:50):
of working on that. Oh my god. So I got
sort of following and getting jack I'm following your jacked
kick and I'm starting a jack kick on my own.
We're getting a pump on this this winter. You need
to get a pump on. And then in addition to that, again,
remember I live in a household with for other people,
and so when one person gets sick, we just all
get sick. And no, no, So it's okay, I just
(05:15):
finished a couple of jobs and I got to be
in bed the last couple of days. But of being
in bed, but I don't know if it's gonna be.
If I get sicker, I don't know what I'll do.
Last night, I had to build a talking couch. I
had to build a talking couch for somebody's play, and
I couldn't get out of my car. I was so
(05:35):
like brain fog, like tired. Yeah yeah, but uh but
besides that, honestly, I'm doing good. Yeah. I love The Fall.
You know, say what you will about this movie, but
kind of the reason I think people stick with it
is because it makes you go, it is fall. It's
really fall.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's one thing about this movie is it'll make you
say it is fall, no matter the time of year. Lehanna,
hey girl, in this movie, it is fall. Hey girl.
I'm really confronting my joints these days.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Okay. Have I told you about my shoulder, my big,
my giant shoulder. Not? And I told you about my
big shoulder, my big, my huge shoulder. No, you have
told you about this? Oh my god. I have had
a knot in my shoulder that is so bad that
I can't sleep. Oh.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I had the shoulder pin like a month ago, and
I couldn't sleep on it. And then I finally went
to see a physiotherapist or physio as they called him here,
and he diagnosed that it's it's just a medically huge knot. No,
we did not, so I have to go get it
just like, yeah, this is big.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah. He was like, that's a.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Big knot you said not, I mean your sually it's
a giant and it's like it won't just go away
on its own, like I have to go get it
medically professionally, proud it poked. I have to get like
pressed into a table thirty minutes every once a week.
It's happened twice so far. I have little exercises to
do as well. But I can't sleep on my right side.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
That sucks. It's nuts.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Having a body is one of the stupidest things that
we as humans do. And I'm also I went to
a different physiotherapist, one that's covered by my insurance for
my hips, because you know, those are never where they're
supposed to be. My hips are liars. Actually, they're always lying.
And now what I'm coming up against is the real
(07:33):
question of did I do I actually want to get
better or did I want to just go complain to
a professional about being in pain? Because for both my
shoulder and for my hips. They've given me exercises to
do that will help me feel better.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, Am I doing them?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
No, maybe I'll But what I will say is, I
just got back from picking up some resistance bands love.
I made a purchase. I was very brave.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I made a purchase. I went and I got I
got them. There are these incredibly twee you really got
into loops. I got them.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And so now there's actually genuinely no excuse, and so
I'm gonna learn something about myself, is what I will say. Wow,
in the next week, because I have another appointment with
the physio, and a man at the Palate studio this
morning said he was a physiotherapist for a time and
they always know if you haven't done your exercise.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
He said that, uh huh, they will.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Because I was explaining this exact situation this morning, because
it's really the main thing going on in my life
right now is having joints.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, I'm so sorry, that's what That's what happens all
of a sudden, it's the main thing. Dumb.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It's just so dumb. And I've got a really poppy knee.
But that's been the case forever. But I'm like, Okay,
is this actually a problem and does somebody need to
am I gonna have to find a third physiotherapist for
my knee. Yeah, well, I'm just I'm spending most of
my week going to the physiotherapist.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Off off, Mike. I told you about my foot. My
foot is off, and I just went to acupuncture because
foot is off. The beneath you guys, Her foot's gone.
My foot is off. It's gone. Every now and then,
I really really tweak. Right underneath my right scapula is yours.
Underneath your scapula.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
It is just on the inside of it, between my
spine and my shoulder.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh, it's my rhomboid. I was told.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, I got a naughty rhomboid.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Naughty rhomboid. Naughty romboid, naughty romboid. I feel like that's
a good name for like a it's a good name generally,
like a a hip hop or not a rhomboid. Nice
to media or that guy, Yeah, whoever, that guy is
also interesting. My shoulder phisio is Irish and my hips
phisio is Australia. What does it mean and what does
(09:50):
it mean?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
My joints are being looked at from across around the globe.
Is that kind of like where they are multiple hemispheres.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Where they are on the map. Ah, if my body
was the globe, yeah yeah, my shoulders, my hips are
Australia because it's your left shoulder. Nope, my right shoulder. Okay, yes,
(10:18):
I was gonna say that the the world threw me
from the front. Yeah yeah, wow fast. Physios have the
whole world in their hands. The whole world, I mean
my shoulder and hips to the r Yeah. Well, Leonna,
speaking speaking of things, uh mm hmmm, yeah, speaking of
(10:41):
what problems? Yeah yeah, speaking of problems, whether you view
that it's problematic or just uh uh steaks steaks in
a movie problem. Let's move on to our to our,
to our segments.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah yeah, okay, Seanna, could you please give us a
synopsis of the film You've Got Mail?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yes, yes, you can hear the tiredness and my writing
of it. Oh beautiful, You've Got Mail. Meg Ryan and
Tom Hanks are pen pals via email. Woo actually aol
oh yeah, and business competitors, but they don't know that
(11:35):
both those things are true. Whoa Hank's is a big
superstore corporate guy and Ryan is little shop around the
corner homespun lady. So it's sort of like they're they're
they're doing their type in they're doing their thing. And
then they both go about their life and fall in
New York and they don't even know the other exists.
(11:56):
And then Ryan is saying, this big Barnes and Noble
type place is moving in in Fox Books and it's
gonna try to put us out of business, but gosh
darn it, it won't. And they she meets him Joe
Fox is a joke whenever Fox for Fox Books. She goes, Oh,
come on you, you really suck. You know what, You're
a terrible person. But then she goes to she texts.
(12:18):
She goes and types to the little the little pen
pal and says, but I think you're so sensitive little
Does she know you're the same guy? What does it mean? Anyway,
she fights hard so they won't put her out of business. Unfortunately,
they do put her out of business. The big superstore wins. Eventually,
(12:38):
Tom Hanks actually realizes that she is indeed his pen pal.
They go to meet. At one point she's already sitting there.
He goes up. He goes, oh, oh no, oh damn
it yay and uh. But then he has the information
for longer than she does, and he realizes, I have
been a dick. I need to make it, I need
to be I need to become her friend. Unfortunately, he
(13:00):
becomes her friend mainly by comforting her about the messages
which he is writing and we'll talk about that. But
eventually they fall in love because hey, they have been
like each other's main confidant since the beginning. Yeah, but
also he put her out of business. What the fuck, dude.
(13:21):
It's so so nineties, from the outfits, to the workplaces,
to the things they're talking about the world becoming which
it was absolutely right, the world did become that, oh yeah,
oh yeah, and to the warm lighting. It is a
very nineties film the end. Yeah. Can I be honest, Yes,
(13:47):
I did not like this movie, you know. Can I
be honest, Yes, My memory of this movie was very
eye roll, and watching it this time, I was like,
I actually get it. Whoaw. But I have to say
that's after watching it actually a lot of times. So
I think it just like broke me to the other
side where I've watched it through the eyes of like
(14:09):
this is stupid and problematic and this time around, I
was like, I love Fall Wow, And I actually noticed
a couple of ways it was more nuanced than I remember.
Isn't that weird? Isn't that weird to call anything about
this film nuanced? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, yeah it is, But I got I guess it.
To your defense, I guess what I should.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Also say is that, like everything I was gonna take
with a grain of salt, I already knew about, So
nothing surprised makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.
Oh okay, well, but yeah, I think that's a very
valid feeling about this movie completely. Is your borderline live
(14:50):
in partner really excited to get on the computer as
soon as you leave, you should probably fall in love
with somebody else. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Let's turn the page into our phone notes, where we
read the notes the other person took on their phone
while watching the film.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, oh my god, I have like sort of a
lot so just just just a lot too.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I guess I just had I kept having opinions.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Oh yes, a big question, Sianna, you asked, Leanna, did
you ever I am or send chain emails, et cetera. Absolutely,
Gmail took our elementary school.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
By still mail. Oh yeah, absolutely. My parents tried to
get me another email and I said, no, I want
a Gmail and they didn't understand why, and I explain,
it's because we were doing things where I am.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
At the email of the moment. Yeah, you could put
a status. And did you ever do that thing where
you got like a you downloaded icons and made those
your like status image?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
That was really big. I don't know if I, but
I used a lot of them, little car.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I was downloading, I was downloading things and I was iming.
I have I ever told you this story about I
guess we'll bleep his name.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I don't know, maybe you did. He was my big.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Crush in elementary school and we started a DM situation ship.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I had a situationship back then. I was in a
situationship via Gmail. That's honestly, we were. We were iming
all the time. What did they call it on Gmail? Gmail?
G chat? We were g chatting. Yeah, maybe that's it consistantly.
And he famously in elementary school had a huge crush
on my best friend, one of my best friends, and then,
(16:44):
oh god, over the course of our messaging, he would
he informed me at the end of one of our chats.
One day he said, btw, I like eighty percent and
you twenty percent? Now what the freak?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Okay, but that's okay, but he used to like her
one yeah, And the percentages slowly over time, and we
wonder why now I don't value myself?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
You know? That is the most middle school I think
the difference between the artists and the normal people are
if your middle school romance experiences affected you. And I
genuinely think that in a deep psychological way, because people
who are just super chill will be like, oh, yeah, like, yeah,
(17:29):
I had I had quote unquote boyfriends when I was like,
that doesn't count. And I'm like the fact that you
think that means a lot about your experience.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I'm like, I had somebody who liked me twenty percent, yeah,
and was happy to tell me that.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And I said, and I remember that, and I remember that.
Were you g chatting? I love to g chat? Yeah,
I loved g chat. I was mostly g chatting my
softball friends from other schools, which made me feel really
cool that I knew people from other schools because I wasn't.
That is very cool. That was what was like the
mark of a cool thing when you went to. I
don't know if it's at any school or particularly when
(18:06):
you went to like a private Catholic school. To know
people from the outside was like really cool. Yeah, I
think it's always cool to appear worldly. Yeah, someone from
another school. How do you feel about my Grian?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You know, happy for her that she had this amazing
career of rom coms.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't think I have
a strong opinion. I think she does a really good
job in them. I like my problem with the movies
is never with her. Yeah, yeah, how about you. I
think I feel similarly. I think she does a good job. Yeah,
she could. It could be the adorable thing can be
(18:52):
sort of like eye roll. But I think she doesn't
make me necessarily feel super iroll. But there are moments, yeah,
where I always feel it's more the writing than it
is her performance of it. Yeah, they're good when they're good.
Combo for these things. When he was like, what are
you doing in that photo and she goes twirling, you
know that really made me laugh too. Twirling I'm twirling, Okay, Well,
(19:17):
yeah that's what I Yeah, but I guess he ask
the keyst thing you could do? Okay, Leon I'm gonna read.
I'm gonna read some of your notes. You've said, wasp
ask wasp asked dog name, brinnan Lee Brinkley.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
This film was very wasp culture in many ways. Brinkley Brinkley,
I've never heard of that as a name for a dog.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
People be naming their dogs crazy things. What did you
think of the dog? Did you notice that there was
a dog? The dog seemed like a good dog, you know,
I noticed because they had some shots just on the
dog for about ten seconds at a time, and you
couldn't not see the dog that is a dog. Yeah, okay, wait, Leonna,
you've said I love these people who can't wait to
go have fun on the computer.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
At the beginning, I was kind of like, yes, they're
both kind of waiting for their roommate or like significant.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Other, just whoever's in their mat. They have their romantic
learner who they're kind of cheating on.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, yeah, they're just waiting for them to leave so
they can go have fun on the computer.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
And I was like, yeah, yeah, I get that. I
totally get that.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Like if I was going to be home alone or
something when I was growing up, and I knew I
was going to be able to just like veg in
front of the Disney Channel with my hint of lime chip.
This that my excitement level was as theirs was to
go have an emotional affair on the computer.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
And that's how I did used to feel about messaging. Yeah, Leanna,
you said she carried a pumpkin to work. I need
to get into a much more whimsical mindset.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Really, I was realizing over the course of the film,
I'm not in the space that I need to be
in to enjoy this right, and that was maybe carrying
a particularly clear when a woman showed up to work
with a pumpkin in hand, in.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Arm, Yeah, an armful of pump It brought just a
pumpkin to work. Maybe No, maybe for one of your jobs.
I haven't No, well, actually no, but I see what
you mean. That's completely possible. Actually, I'm not ruling. I
think one day you might. Leanna, we have to talk
(21:18):
about this. We have to talk about this. You've said
they had Starbucks in the nineties, girl, absolutely, Starbucks was
it was the night it came out in the nineties,
and that's when they started the whole like takeaway coffee
thing in like a big way. Completely changed coffee culture
it used to be. I was going to ask if
you remember it from when we were kids, because we
(21:38):
would go there.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
If don't you remember the nineties, I remember the early
two thousands. I remember Starbucks in the two thousands, right,
But I would say, no, it existed in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Late nineties, early two thousands. I would say, kind of culturally.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I would say, I probably don't have memories from before
two thousand and six.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
So I wouldn't know. Yeah, I see, but I had
no idea. It to me, just screams mid Mid aunts
the concept of a Starbucks. It felt kind of jarring.
I was. I had to look up what year this
was made because they were obsessed with it too. They
kept showing big shots of it. It was like, oh yeah,
huge advertisement for it. Ironic.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
They used to have good food promoting an independent bookstore,
but then absolutely sledting out a Starbucks.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
But then the Barnes and Noble kind of wins and
she ends up going to see the kids area, and
she's like, fine with it. This is good, which I
are doing good things. There's like the nuance to that
is that it's like the world goes on even as
things change and become worse, Like there's still kids enjoying themselves,
but it's there was a lot of this movie that
(22:45):
was like superstores are going to take over and make
the world impersonal and like make business is worse. And
they're right, that did happen. That literally happened, and it
is way worse.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Oh, by the way, Also the New York of it all,
you're so right that the city is a character and
literally a few times so you're enjoying seeing autumn in
New York and then a few times they go like
don't you just love New York and autumn. We're like, okay,
we get it. And then later he also says to
her like I hope you get better soon because she's sick.
Later he's like, I hope you can get better soon.
You don't want to miss New York in the spring, Like, guys,
(23:19):
just get over yourselves. It's a great city. It feels
great to be there. Yeah, but you know you can't
have every month.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, I guess they don't. I guess New York in
the winter is like garbage and then really bad in
the summer. So I guess they're like when I was
in New York half the year. When I was in
New York, people.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Would be like, there's no summer like New York summer.
There is no summer like New York summer. So they're
obsessed with every season. Just don't They're right, but they're
they're using the wrong tone exactly. They need to be
saying it with fears. I don't like how you're saying
that the streets smell like garbage. It is very It's
like vapors, vapors everywhere, and you say the vapors, what
(23:59):
is this coming from something? I don't like that my
face is when it's not just humidity, it's coming from
the city. Right, that's not good, Leona, you said sorry,
she runs an independent children's bookstore and she lives in
that apartment.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Need to get into the whimsical mindset. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Every time I was like sorry, and the ibub I
was like no, no, no, remember whimsical mindset.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah. Stop. You can't question then because you have to
just be in a whimsical mindset. A children's bookstore in
New York City, I'm sorry, are you fucking Manhattan? Yeap
on the Upper West Side? That's not that wasn't making
are you? Are you? And she shops at z Bars? What? Yeah,
that makes no sense. Oh my god, that makes no sense.
I was I just I guess. I guess I'm really
(24:46):
not in the mood for love right now. And so
as a result because a male comedian hurt my feelings,
which is so degrading. But as a as a result,
anything to do with that, anything where it's like her
is so so quirky, her home is so beautiful, all
of it. I'm like, shut up, no, it's not. None
(25:06):
of this is real life is hell, that's not real.
It's it gets dark at four pm. Now, it is true.
It's terrible. I mean she is sort of like she
is sort of like in a dream state all the time.
And when she lost her work there, I was like, girl,
I love that you're gonna like go find yourself, but
do you have a degree? Like this is your mom's store.
(25:28):
What are you gonna do? All you did was twirl
and then run the store your mom started. Fortunately, in
this universe, you're famous because you have a children's bookstore.
Oh right, so everyone wants to give you a job. Now,
I don't know. Okay, love this, Leanna, you said, I
am aligned with all of Greg Kadeer's opinions. Man, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Know he's supposed to be the like annoying, I know,
the borderline conspiracy theorist guy.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
But he's just right everything. He's right. He actually is
a way more in this film are correct for today.
He is the only one who's really aligned with today,
except for the fact that he also is complicit in
there in your thirties nineties New York cheating of it all.
That's true. I don't know why those characters always are
(26:16):
just like I guess. I guess just being non monogamous
was the was the default. I don't know. I don't know.
They're like living with their partners, yeah, in full on,
but just having emotional affairs. Yeah yeah. And they were
just like afterwards when they break up and they've been
together for like at least a year, Yeah, they're like
(26:37):
basically living together. When they eventually break up, they're like,
so is there someone else?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Completely chill.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
But I loved him so much. He was insane. He
got really excited about a typewriter.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Girl. I looked at a typewriter that was on sale
on a used like furniture website this week, and I
considered it we should start doing our podcast on a typewriter. Honestly,
we're basically doing that name because we don't have a
video element. Yeah, and all her podcast doesn't exist. What
podcasts have become? I don't think what this is a
(27:12):
podcast legally speaking. Leoni you said, closing the computer is
so real? Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
When she's pen paling and then he says should we meet?
And she goes oh and shuts the computer and walks away,
that's so so real. Yeah, that's like any anytime somebody
likes me on hinge.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
H, I go oh, close the app, throw the phone,
so I left, I throw my phone in the sea.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, yeah, I really Yeah. I yearn for a lot
of elements of that era that I spent not that
many years existing during.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Right right, Well, I'll try.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
To undisclosed number of years because I'm not I'm not
telling you which part of that decade I showed up during.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, Leanna you said, how did her anger at him
manage to be misogynist? Yes? Is this when she's like,
it's like an entire generation of Coga waitresses. Oh these
stupid young bitches. Hell was that? Like? Okay, what the
hell I'm sorry angry at a man.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You're angry at a male CEO who lied to you,
and you're comparing him to young women.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I know.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
In this scathing way that was wild. What also, that
hadn't been like a feat of motif during the film. No,
was that just something that was going on in the nineties. Also,
those young women were like, my name is it's Sanet.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It's okay not to say your last name when you
introduce yourself to someone. I actually don't know what she's
talking about. I had no idea what she was talking.
I didn't say hello, my name is Siena J. Cole
to everybody I meet. That's weird. Was that something from
the past that people were doing so you could find
them in the phone book? And I feel like, I
hope most most people these days they under stand that
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when you're when you're when you're talking about another generation,
you're also talking about someone who's twenty two. Their brain
is different. Yeah, girl, you're smarter. Yeah, yeah, you're in
your late thirties. Let it go, let it go, brutal,
late thirties. She is, I looked it up. She's thirty
seven movie. Never mind, that's fine to say then Oh
(29:21):
my gosh, I love that you just met a new guy. Giry. Okay,
so does he lied to you recently? Oh? Oh he has? Okay?
Is he corporate swilled? Did he? Is he like a
sort of a billionaire vibe? Oh? He? Oh he is? Okay, Well,
surely he didn't put you out of business though, oh
he did. All right, I'm going to give you three
minutes to sort of rethink your your options here. We'll
(29:43):
be right back, okay, Leonnah, I'm gonna go through some
of your final notes. You've said. Okay, well you said
office move triggered.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, when she's in the empty store, I was like,
oh wait, Leani, you said why and how does she
have a piano?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I don't remember that. Was she moving a piano? No,
she just has a piano in her apartment. That is
so insane. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That's so nineties. That's so that is so when the
economy was in a different, maybe more achievable place, you
could just have a piano. Nobody just has a piano. No,
you have a keyboard. If you have to do music
for your profession.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
You have to be a piano planted if you have
a piano, because how are you gonna move a piano? Also,
never saw you play that? Used to like storage at
someone's house, at someone's house at Yeah, it was at
the rich one's house, Bertie Leon. Your final note is Okay,
I didn't like that. Sorry, Yeah, I get that. Sorry.
(30:54):
I like to Toral. I like to Tora, and I
love this man who I'm talking to online. Would he
breaks down the Godfather? Okay? I guess we should get
into badges and trages. Oh, I mean kill him with
a gun please. Yeah, the Godfather is everything. Let me
explain it to you, which I have to say, they
kind of do an accurate job of showing like what
(31:16):
messaging on like hinges like, because that is the kind
of thing it'll be.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Like.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Let me break down for you in a quirky way
why the Godfather is so good and you have to go, wow,
that's crazy. Are you watching the Godfather? I don't really
agree with that, but I guess we should go on
to be anyway because it is so slim pickens in
this town.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, definitely, this early version of what is with men?
And the Godfather walked so that Bobby could run, so
that what could have made me want to rewatch Barbie Harby.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well, Godfather, should we go on to
our badges and trages? Because I feel like we can
discuss further the tragic elements of this have.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Several I have several of both absolutely rally through it.
You are in my notes as anonymous Dumbo octopus. I
just finished reading a book about it, octopus which one
it's called remarkably bright creepy.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Sure are you freaking kidding me?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I was thinking that you would like it because it's
set in Washington, Yeah, and they have a view of
the Puget Sound.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I actually I liked it because it was about a
lonely woman. I actually listened to the audiobook, and I
bet that's fun. It is fun because the woman reading it,
she actually does a good job at changing the voices.
And every time she does what his name cam? She
goes like this, she looks like that.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Ye, that's him, that's absolutely him. Did she Marcellus the
Octopus with a British accent?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Oh? Actually he was because I was picturing it. He
was actually just read by a man at it and
that is the only one. And the Scottish guy she
would do a Scottish accent. Oh hell, and then I
think that the boss is supposed to be Jamaican and
she just skipped that.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Good So she did a good job. She's late, Okay,
made all the correct choices.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yep, that's right. Yep. Kind of too bad that they
didn't just get somebody in here. I know, if they
were gonna get an octopus, but they couldn't find a
Jamaican voice actor. But they're like, we're gonna work with
what we got and we're going as possible. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, oh my god, I literally finished it last night.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
That is so crazy cute. Oh my gosh. Okay, welcome
to badges and trages where we give badges for bookstores
that are independent and trages for tricking, tricking women, tricking women,
tricking women. And that's what you did. Oh, I have
(33:43):
a badge for a dog. Yeah, this was lucky you,
lucky you, lucky me. Badge for nineties Cafe Vibes ASMR
is what I wrote, because you know they have those
like YouTube things, like videos that are like yeah, lo
fi eleven hanging out in a coffee shop and it's
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the nineties and it's warm. That is what this movie is.
I think, like, this is if you're gonna if you
keep watching it. The reason is because you're like, oh,
I miss when when the lighting was warm and that
I could actually buy a delicious piscatti. That's one thing
that also you gotta love about New York. They have
real bakeries there. It's hard to find a good bakery
(34:27):
in the United States of America. Yeah, I get that.
I get that.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
La was the corner from where we stayed in Brooklyn
that had the best cinnamon buns ever had.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
LA only has gentrified bakeries in my area, which is
a very gentrified area. Uh, it's like, it's like this,
but the cinnamon roll is shipped in and too sweet.
Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, where can I
find somewhere where it's bag fucking pastries getting shipped in.
It's really grim. It's really grim. I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
A badge for look at this dog. Okay, I don't
think that's gonna be the last one.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
This is funny because this shows our priorities, because my
next badge is tea party slash Scones. This is a dream.
You're noticing the dodge, I'm noticing the baked goods. Okay,
my next badges look at all these dogs. Yay, there
were so many dogs in the background of the movie.
I loved that. I have a badge for two Harry
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Nilsen songs because I really like Harry Nelson a lot. Okay,
I will he's the one who sing he he did
do the music for Midnight Cowboy, but don't think about that.
He also he's the one who sing the I Want
a Puppy, the song that for some reason, it's about
a puppy at the beginning, and then he sings in
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New York City. He has a beautiful voice. I love
when men have beautiful voices. Oh. I have a.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Badge for this iconic woman who's also in Miscongeniality shop
assistant I love and miss Congeniality, who says her perfect
date is April twenty fifth. Yeah, I love her.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I think she's great. I will also take this moment
to give a badge for the casting that it's the
cast is very funny. Oh. And that's another reason I
think that despite its problematic elements and stupidity, this movie,
like it is, there's many elements that are very good
and watchable because the cast is really good. It's really funny.
(36:30):
Parker posey, come on, Steve zan Steve Zann when the
whole bookstore comes in and they're like, hey, you stood
you up. Oh that was fun. It's fun. It's fun. Oh,
a badge for a map of Ireland on the wall
of the wasp party they go to where they where
she finds out he's actually Joe Fox Love love a map. Okay,
(36:53):
I will give a badge in all his deceit. In
the plan that he coordinated in which they would get
lunch and he would reveal his feelings and then she
would meet actual him at four pm. In this plan
that he created, at the very end, he accounted enough
time for her to change and process a little bit.
I give a badge for that because I was, like,
to be honest, if a man actually did this, and
(37:15):
I'm not trying to just be cruel a generalist, but
I do think this is true. If a man actually
planned this, he would have planned it for like lunch
at twelve and they meet at one, which would give
her no time to change and get cute for her
date and also not give her time to like think
about it a little bit and just like put it
behind her. Yeah, knew a lunch and then four pm,
(37:35):
perfect amount of time. So he was thoughtful in that way.
And that's how you can tell it was actually written
by a woman because she had to change, She had
a change to address, she had to get ready. Yep,
a badge for a picture of Puppy Brinkley on Tam
Hanks's bedside table. That was so cute. My final badge
because I guess I wrapped them up is I wrote
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this earlier on. But there's actually a more nuance in
this film than I remember. The reason I had not
good associations is because I thought of it as being very,
very dumb. But there were a few things and both
those include the fact that she sells the store, which
is incredibly tragic. I get why they did it this time,
(38:18):
where it's like she needs this has been her whole life.
She just did what her mom did basically, and like
she kind of needs to find herself. Okay, I guess
that's more interesting than it being Hallmark style, and she
just like gets the store at the end. And then
I did notice that he tried not to lie to her,
for at the beginning, he tries not to lie to
her because when he's texting, when he types or when
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he responds to why he was gone, he's like, I
actually can't tell you yet. And everything he says is true,
it is true. So I was like, oh, I didn't
realize that before. I guess he's not lying to her.
But then he forms a friendship. He forms a friendship
with her later that's completely one hundred percent founded on
her talking about her loved her lover lover, and that's
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him like planting new weird thing you hate. It was
where the seat came in in a big way. Yeah,
I was like, brother, why brother, you almost made it
to the home stretch. You almost made it to the
home stretch without home stretch, without being a dick. Hmm.
You almost respected her, but you didn't so close.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
My final badges are a badge for Steve Zann saying
the line, I gotta get some eucalyptus candles because it
makes my apartment smell mossy.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I love him. I love A badge for bad bars,
A badge for the stuffed animal babars that they had
behind the counter at the bookstore. Some of the books
they had in the background excellent because they were from
our childhood m and then a badge for doggies a
badge for a tiny dog, and my final badge is
Brinkley because he's very involved in the last scene. He
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is very involved. Trages, trages, a trage that this movie
was not streaming anywhere I had to pay. I was
very surprised at that as well. Come on, what is
the point having a billion streaming services? And Tom Hanks
should be stuff freely. There should be like a tam
Hanks streaming platform. Tom Hanks is like watch be like
(40:15):
HBO Max accessible to all everywhere. Tom Hanks is a
human right, a basic human right. Yeah. Trage for this
movie is afraid of a world that is indeed our
actual world. Now the bad corporate stuff did explicitly have
it happened. Uh, this guy Joe Fox was going to
become a billionaire and he would be part of the
(40:38):
class of the one percent that took us down. He
would absolutely have been funding Andrew Cuomo's campaign for mayor
Oh my god, Joe Fox for Cuomo. Trage for Boom
that is about Dave Chappelle. Ouse he became a transphobic asshole.
(40:59):
Yeah yep, And now every time he's in a film,
I have to boo whenever he speaks all of his Yeah,
all of his jokes are so mhmm the same. Uh
A trade for the line about an entire generation of
cocktail waitresses. Girl, just be you don't have to say that.
(41:20):
What are you talking about? I trade for twirling? I
was twirlingling? Sorry what we were twirling? Okay, right, she said,
as if she invented twirling. Girl, everybody's twirled. Have you
not heard of a dervish? I guess they're whirling? Whirling?
Is twirling enough? M hm h trad for the ententification
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of the world. It just makes me so sad that
Starbucks used to be a nice place to be. I
remember it growing up, going after church, sitting in the
comfy chairs and eating delicious pastries. And they don't have
that anymore. You can't get anything good to eat at Starbucks. Nothing.
He's comfy. They don't want you to be comfortable. No,
they want you to leave, and the food is And
it's really sad. But trage for that wasn't really charming
(42:08):
at all. The scene at Ze Bars, where the concept
of it is that tam Hawks charms the cashier into
allowing Magryan to pay with a credit card. He's not
really being he's kind of just being rude. I know,
I thought he was just gonna have cash be like,
(42:28):
I'll pay for it, me too, But why didn't they
do that? He charms this woman who had a beautiful
smile by the way, kind of just like bullies. Yeah,
I didn't like it, and he used his like elite
rich boy status. I would not like that. I would
not like that alf I were her trag for she
had to be she had to be pretty. Did not
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like that. There's this little freak gube of like it
just disgusts It disgusts me. There was some one thing
deeply the thing that makes us scared about about how
heterosexual male culture works. This is like the kind of
stereotype around it that's playing into, which is that he's
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like because I liked her and she's nice to talk to,
I knew she had to be attractive in the way
that I value. I knew it. I knew it. If
she wasn't, that wouldn't make sense to me, because how
could I like a girl and think she's cool if
she's not incredibly hot in the way that I value.
That is what it was saying. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, that is what he was saying. Yeah, I
(43:34):
didn't like it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
My next trage is for in that same scene Dave
Chappelle saying she could be a real dog twice.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah. Yeah. Trage for calling her a bitch, which he does,
or he says like, yeah, she could be a bitch.
Don't say that, Tom Hanks. I do not like to
hear you say that word. Do not say that word.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Trage for men are cowards. He won't even go up
to the restaurant without having his friend go first and
tell him if.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
She's hot or not. Yeah, because he's afraid, and then
he won't tell her the truth for the rest of
the film, and are such cower uh. Trage for talking
down to Huan on the phone when he's in the elevator.
He picks up the phone, He's like, hello, who is
this Huan? Okay, now call nine one one, yes, nine
one one yeaheah, that's the fire department. Okay, all right, right,
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it was loaded. Yeah. Trage for this movie was too long.
I paused it to go pee, and I was like,
it was twenty five minutes left. It's oh, it was long.
It is two full hours. It doesn't need that. No,
and my final trage is trage for their entire friendship
is founding founded upon lying. He tries to become her
friend to make sure that that he can be a
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good person before they before they actually date eventually, and
but that friendship is founded upon lies instead of just
being founded upon their their common interests. No good, No good.
My next tradge is a trage for dramatic irony. I
don't like dramatic irony. I don't like know any things
before characters know them. I find it very stressful. It's
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unsettling for you. I hate it. I hate it.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Trad for how does he know where she lives? He
shows up at her apartment with flowers? If the man
who put my business out of business showed up at
my home with flowers, I'd say, how did you get
this address?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
I'm calling? I don't know. I wouldn't call the police
because they would decide with him. But uh, I'd call someone.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Trad for why won't he tell her the truth? I
don't like this. A trage for fat phobia. When they're guessing,
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
God, all the reasons his handle might be the handle
that it is a trade for it was, and they're
eating octopus. Now that's because I just finished Remarkably Bright
Creature and I've decided, actually, yeah, we should not be.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Eating remarkably bright. Those animals are smart. They're smart. Well,
I think a lot of animals feel way, but there
is something about octopi that they like extremely feel it.
They are like, oh so many, oh god, oh god,
a trade for playing the song somewhere over the rainbow.
By this point in the movie, I was like, shut up.
And then my final tragedy is he's such a freak.
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This guy's a freak. He's a freak. It's freaky. He's
a rich he's a rich weirdo. He's probably been to
islands that you don't want to know about. Oh that's
all I'll say, Sorry, dark Leona. Let's move on to
our next segment, which is, of course, how to pretend
You've seen this? Or this is when you're just trying
(46:26):
to enjoy a nice walk through the park in autumn,
you're having a.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Nice Well, it's called how to pretend You've seen this film?
He said, how to pretend you've seen this? Or And
our next segment, should you watch this film?
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Help me, help help how to pretend you've seen this?
Or have you seen this? Or how to pretend you've
seen this film. You're walking through the park. It's autumn.
You're enjoying a nice, beautifully self performative afternoon, just walking
around looking, peeping the leaves, and Tam comes up to
(47:07):
you and uh, he goes, Oh, can't help noticing that
you like the leaves here, but you know where the
leaves are the best? New York. Oh, New York in
the fall. New York in the fall is so good,
So is so is spring? And summer you just can't
beat it. Winter's okay, But you got to be in
New York for all these or your life isn't isn't real?
(47:28):
Life isn't real. It's here. I'm gonna tell you all
about this movie that I just saw about this really
brave guy he he he manages to still to be
a really loving partner to this woman even though she
runs a really stupid bookstore, and he does everything he can.
I really feel like we should try to like understand
(47:49):
rich guys a little bit more. And I'm going to
tell you all about this movie. It's called it's called
You've Got Mail.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
And in order to log Tam off, we are going
to give you a few sentences as you can say,
to pretend you've seen the film You've Got Mail. Yes, Tam,
I've seen You've Got Mail. Goodbye. And then I put
in my headphones and I play the song Dreams by
the Cranberry's, which was in the movie.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Changing every day in every possible way. Yes, Tam, I
have seen the film You've Got Mail. I was wondering
about where it was shot because it was such a
cute little space, and it seems like it was actually
filmed in New York and or even the shop, and
(48:41):
indeed the children's bookstore scenes were filmed at Maya Shaper's
Cheese and Antique shop at Little six West sixty ninth Street.
And then this trivia piece goes on to say like, oh, yeah,
they wanted the antique shop because it's quaint and homye,
but but how was it cheese and cheese? Please tell
me cheese and antiques? Interesting? I guess cheese is antique milk?
(49:11):
So true? Oh, Tam, of course I've seen You've Got Mail. Please.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
I wish we could suck. We could talk about something
relevant for today, like the luddite movement in nineteenth century England.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Okay, Greg Kinnear, sure, yes, I have seen the film. Yes, Tam,
I have seen the film You've Got Mail. I think
many of us know Tom Hanks collects typewriters. Little fun
fact about Tom Hanks. And also Meg Ryan got her
(49:47):
very first computer during this film. So okay, real period moment,
imagine that time, just truly. I can't imagine a time
where devices aren't everywhere. Actually, cannot imagine. I know.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Oh, Tam, of course, yes I've seen You've Got Mail.
I have to go now. I got to get some
eucalyptus candles because it makes my apartment smell mossy. That's
so fun that is Wasn't he the main character?
Speaker 1 (50:17):
I loved him. What's going on with him? I want
to see it into his life? Oh no, oh this
is oh god, it's just a funny, Hollywood like success
story of like, oh that's good that you maybe screwed
someone else over. Uh. Yes, Tam, I have seen the
(50:38):
film You've Got Mail. The movie was originally titled You
Have Mail, but it changed after Warner Bros. Consultant a
Warner Bros. Consultant found that AOL never trademarked it's famous
You've got male greeting because they were They were like, oh,
it's trademark. Probably then they found that it wasn't. They're like, hell, yeah,
we're gonna use You've Got Mail, first recorded by Elwood
Edwards in nineteen eighty nine. Edwards's agent, Unsuccessful, tried to
(51:00):
get him a voice credit on the movie Why unsuccessful,
Just give the man a credit.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
That's like how our podcast was originally supposed to have
a better name. Yeah, and probably could have. We were
going to.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Say, yeah, what are they gonna do now, sue us.
We're talking into a typewriter right now, we are typewriting
a podcast. Oh can we move on now? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Okay, Sienna, let's do this one. Let's do Should you
watch this or which is where we tell you our audience,
if we think you should watch this movie or if
you should do something else with your time?
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Tam Tam Hanks. I'll go first. No, awesome, you don't
need to watch You've Got Mail. What you could do
instead is you could read the book Remarkably Bright Creatures
by Shelby Van Pelt. But really, what you must do
is hit up your local independent bookstore and buy something
(52:02):
from there, because God, the world is hell. Go support
the little guys. Yeah, okay, well I would say you could.
You could watch this movie. I do think it's it
does scratch an itch of if you're looking for the
like nostalgic nineties autumn and New York vibe, this does
(52:23):
scratch an itch and it's got its problems, But a
lot of other automan New York back in the day
was captured by like, for example, Woody Allen, and this
is better than that, So you know, it's like, it
is what it is. It's very it's very ram commy vibe,
and it makes you nostalgic for a time when maybe
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creative work was invested in a little bit more. And
movies from the nineties always make me nostalgic a because
I was a child then, right for some portion of it,
or early two thousands, but also because I think they
literally did just invest in the movie in warm movies
in a different way. And I've been enjoying some kind
of older content recently, especially animated stuff, because they used
(53:09):
to again pay artists even a little bit. Then we
always think they're not getting paid, and then people get
their cut paid cut even more and we're like, what,
I guess we were a little bit. But I just
recently watched James and the Giant Peach and I remember
that movie kind of freaking me out, but it was
actually really it's really Good's a good Halloween film. Yeah,
that's another spider. Yeah, she's absolutely serving, voiced by Susan Saran.
(53:34):
Then I did not know. Oh yeah, explain, so that's
another good one. Yeah, if you're looking to be nostalgic
for a different time when things were maybe a little
less shitty somehow, like like shitty, like shoddy, they were
a little ruler.
Speaker 5 (53:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
Yeah, anyway, Leanna, what would you rate this movie? I
will give you've got mail. There's stuff I liked about it.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Yeah, I'll give it two to work pumpkins out of five.
I did not like this man's behavior, and I'm not
in the mood to watch people be happily in love.
But I loved the dog and the other dogs. And
they did capture a a autumnal sense, right, that was nice.
(54:22):
And there were little moments that did make me giggle,
and I did I like a lot of the actors
who are in good cast. Yeah, Seanna, what would you
like Did you give it again two to work pumpkins
out of five.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
I'm gonna give this movie three point five biscotti out
of five. I liked it more than I thought I
was going to. Actually, I thought I was gonna be
more annoyed by stuff. But you know what, I had
a good dumb time. Yes, wow, as is your right.
I'm getting I'm getting to be a softie in my
old sore aching age. I've been referring to my body
(54:58):
as my old bones. Late. Our joints are not good
right now on this podcast bad joints. Well, we didn't.
Oh my god, that's it, even though all of my
technology was failing me this whole time, because it's desperately
trying to go back to a time where there was
no technology. It's yearning, it's pining. Well, thank you everybody
so much for listening. This has been our opinions about
(55:21):
You've got mail on the podcast Toss Popcorn, the Vintage Podcast.
You can follow us on social media, not that it matters,
Oh my god. You can follow us on social media
at Toss Popcorn on Instagram, and we are on patreon
dot com slash toss Popcorn, where we post a bonus
monthly video episode reviewing a buzzy film of the moment.
(55:45):
And that's it. Right, then join us next week when
we will be watching I should have checked all these more.
Speaker 5 (55:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Probably so timely. This is so timely. It is. Do
you know about this? Oh? I can't wait to talk
about this. Oh my god. Okay, all right, we'll talk
about it next week. Okay, okay, oh, thank you, We
love you. Bye bye. You can find us on Instagram
(56:18):
as at Sienna Jaco and at Leanna Holsten. Please check
the description for the spelling of our dumb names. We
put out episodes every Tuesday, so make sure to subscribe
so that you don't miss an episode. See you next
week on Tossed Popcorn. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio,
check the iHeartRadio app. I really think I hated it.
(56:40):
I was not in the mood. Did you just keep
going ugh? Yes,
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