August 18, 2021 • 16 mins
Police finds the DC-6 already without the merchandise. Transportista and his associates are caught and captured. The police tortures them until a phone call and a clarification seem to be the key for them to avoid prison.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We've spent two days and night trying to locate the plane.
We hoped to find. Unfortunately, the bodies and what was
left on the garago, we couldn't find him. Fernando Blancos
Ascenda spent months coordinating a major cooka in sight from
(00:24):
Columbia Tobacco, California. It arranged for clandestine runways to be
built in the desert, and then it rained. The pilots
couldn't find the washed out runway. They lost communication with
blank Hill and were forced to crash the end of
the dunes. But for two days of looking for the
crash site, some fishermen arrived at the gas station in
(00:44):
the area asking for blank Hill's cousin. They knew where
the plane was. They quickly mobilized to find the plane.
The goods were practically intact, maybe a few package torn.
There were six people on board, two of them in
one piece. Blink said about getting the wounded to the
hospital and the coke to expire and nest of bias Mota.
(01:07):
They sent for them and were stabilized. They injured, They
were very hurt. I had my plane register as an
air ambulance, so I flew them toward Senda. He wanted
to fly the wounded to Cardillo's secret clinic in New
Mexico City, but Bias Mota insisted they treat them locally well.
Mota was overseeing the shipment of the cocaine across the border.
(01:30):
Linkhio says that he hired some people to take dynamite
out to the crash site and blew up the plane.
Then he got word from Mota. It was said, the
last kid has crossed the border, meaning the last killo
had that right to the state heire. Blankhio says that
they all celebrated by partying for two days. He refers
(01:50):
to what would be international sex trafficking in the following terms.
We went on a bush, she wrote, as the girls
from Vega and the room, but began today's sparking non
stop if you can't imagine those sputies. As I noted earlier,
the use of such violent sexist language is common in
(02:12):
blank Hill's tales and throughout what often gets called the
Narco cultura. Blank Your continues, we were staying at the
Holiday Inn, and we moved with the girls to the
Colonial hotel, precisely to avoid attracting unnecessary attention At the
Holiday Inn. The next day, we decided not to sleep
(02:33):
at the Holiday Inn because we felt like we were
being followed. Having just recovered five tons of cocaine from
a plane that has flown from Colombia and crashed in
the desert, beaking four people critically wounded in a local hospital,
and then moving that coke across the border into the
United States, it makes sense that Blankio and his cohort
would feel a bit apprehensive, feel, for example, as if
(02:56):
they were being followed. You walk around your tail and
so some strange stuff. I had even seen some flu
when I left, and indeed there was something they didn't know.
Yet those guys didn't blow up the plane. Someone found
the plane and tipped off the authorities. Federal police have
been tracking blank you on his team for days. So,
(03:19):
to paraphrase Kurt Cobain, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean
the Feds aren't following you. On edge Link. You and
buy as more as half brother decided to pick up
their things from the holiday and leave town. The cops
are waiting for them. Heard as ambushed us. There are
your kill. They took us to the back. They lock
(03:41):
us up in our rooms. They knew who we were.
They knew practically everything. Then the Calindada began, and his
interviews with TV Thank You exhibits an unusual relationship to
acts of violence, often orients his life story around violence.
(04:02):
He suffered multiple kidnappings and torture sessions, but he does
not describe those events in detail. He also shies away
from discussing other acts of violence, whether obscure or famous,
that are related to his story. Only at one point
in his interviews that he seemed to hint that he
had to commit an extreme act of violence to defend himself.
(04:25):
He often describes very close friendships with people like Maloka
Fuentti and who were involved in countless kidnappings and murders.
He talks about flying their families, but does not mention
anything about the violence they carried out, but that Aleva
himself was killed by Mexican marines in two thousand nine,
(04:45):
commandos repelled from helicopters to storm Leva's luxury apartment in Cordovaca.
Those same commandos also placed bloody baso and dollar bills
on his lifeless torso and led the press photographers through
the apartment to take the pa sure this for me
was a key moment in the so called drug war,
the state openly speaking the language of narco terrorism. Some
(05:10):
say that Elapauzman ordered the Marines to produce that image,
which would only add one more turn of the screw.
Throughout his story, Blinkio will often say the name of
a good friend and colleague, someone like Miguel Basan or
Juan al Gomez, and then quickly say they killed him,
without ever saying who they were, what happened, or why.
(05:33):
Violent seems to always hover on the edge of his story,
having just passed through or lingering just out of you.
Reading Blinkfield's transcripts, I was struck by the casual way
he had mentioned that so many of his friends had
been murdered. Was he so inured to the violence of
his trade? Was he avoiding details so as not to
draw attention to himself and have to face questions about
(05:54):
his involvement in such acts of violence? Is it possible
to imagine that a man and old for nearly thirty
years in international drug trafficking would not have participated in kidnappings, torture,
and murder. In January two one colleagues that reached out
(06:18):
to me about a curious individual they've been interviewing using
a clandestine cell phone from inside of prison in North Carolina.
The man claimed to have worked as a pilot, entrepreneur
and air logistics coordinator in the international drug trade for
some thirty years. My friends at the Dictive produced a
podcast in Spanish and wanted to know if I'd be
(06:38):
interested in working on a sister podcast in English looking
into this man and his story. Sure, I said, but
I need to do my own investigations see what I
can find. Thetieve invited the legendary Mexican actor Joaquin Coco
to read the English translations of Transportista's quoted interviews with
Manue Latius. My name, I guess is John Gibbler, and this,
(07:01):
in a sense is Transportista episode six. Las Callin tell
us the police rushed to blink you in his colleague
as they approached the holiday in. They took them into
(07:24):
a back entrance and up the blink Hill's room, where
they began to torture them. They put us both in
there in my room, and that's when it all went down.
We could listen to the complete ciasco through the radios.
There we are getting the beating of our lives. Blink
Hill says that he and his colleague tried to deny
(07:44):
who they were and what they had done, but it
was obvious that the police knew everything. They took them
both to a federal police station and continued to beat them.
After a while, it became clear that the two million
dollars Blinkyo's employer had paid to the police have been
stolen by a subordinate. The truth came out the commandante
(08:06):
had stolen the bribe money. The police commander thus realized
that the people he had been torturing were not responsible
for the mishap, and offered to write their supposed confessions
in such a way that a judge would be forced
to throw them out. Thank you. To thank the man
who had tortured him, offered to give him a collector's
watch man. They say, thank you very much. Commandante over there,
(08:31):
I had a goal GMT Master too. I'm going to
give it to you. No, no, no, no, he said,
I don't need anything. I have plenty of watches. Keep
your stuff, you're gonna need it, he said. Thank your
story here, assuming it's true, illustrates a common feature of
the drug war. The federal police don't arrest drug traffickers
(08:52):
when they traffic drugs, but rather they kidnap and torture
drug traffickers who haven't paid them. Once the police found
out who owned the cocaine shipment and that they had
made the proper payment, they lost all interest in blank
you on his colleague. One can only imagine, however, what
happened to the subcommandante. So blink You in jail then
(09:14):
faced an unusual problem. From the beginning. They said it
was a total nobody, but it was in the room
place of the room time, which obviously wasn't the case.
He said he was a nobody and his confession was admissible.
It seemed he'd be released quickly, But then his various
employers got worried and they all sent their best lawyers
(09:35):
to help him out. But with all those lawyers, they're waiting,
speaking with the prosecutor, speaking with the judge. The judge said, no, no, no,
I'm not letting you go at the preliminary huting man.
I'll pass and leave the problem into a district judge
(09:56):
or some other judge who gets your case. Blink You
goes into detail, naming the famous Narco lawyers who went
to defend him, but in the end he would be
in prison for eighteen months and then released. And his interviews,
he recalls those eighteen months in jail and the rather
offensive terms we already heard an episode four. The way
Blankiell talks about women was the first thing that struck
(10:18):
me when I listened to a story, but we won't
repeat that here. Once out of jail, blank he says
that he moved around quite a bit. My first traveled
to Tijuana, Mexicali to get myself together, so to say.
I divided my time between Mexico City and SENAA Mexicali,
Tijuana and got to work. I did a few jobs.
(10:42):
It was coordinating with some Colombian friends, and got back
to work. And we keep going doing pretty well, driving
with some lucky strikes, magnificent negotiations. Everything was moved sailing.
During this time, blank as that he was kidnapped and
forced to fly for the nephew of a well known trafficker.
(11:04):
After his plane broke down on one of those flights,
he fled to Los Angeles. There he worked for a
time selling planes to drug traffickers. Then Amalo Carrillo once
again sought him out, and asked for a favor. He
wanted to know if Linkio could fly a lear Jet
thirty five for a friend. Blenko went to Chihuahua to
(11:25):
meet this friend, and there he also met a man.
He asked that the divette not to name. I'll call
him Steve. Steve is in prison for many years. He
was released some ten years ago in a technicality, with
the Mexican Federal Attorney General immediately appealed. He is known
to be given to extreme acts of violence, and he
is currently at large. Back in the mid nineties, Blinkio
(11:50):
decided to work with both Amalo Carrio's friend and with Steve.
He went to Vanna's, California to take some lear Jet
flight courses while he was off studying. However, and my
look Ario's friend was murdered, so it would just be
blank Hill and Steve. In the beginning, my business was
using my planes in exchange for a percentage for the transportation.
(12:13):
That's how it began. I did a couple of world
It is around this time that Blinkio says he became
close friends with Artur and started working with him as well.
Blankio charged Steve around two hundred thousand dollars per flight.
Steve decided this was too expensive. Instead of taking his
business elsewhere, however, he decided to buy blank Hill's business
(12:35):
from him and then hire him as a pilot. Wait,
when I buy the planes and helps you on a
pay your role. It wasn't a suggestion, but rather an order.
So he bowed the planes. Steve started plankling. He was
sixty five thousand dollars of light. Blank Hill says he
quickly became tired of this arrangement. He started flying more
(12:57):
with Artur beltran Leva, who he says, for a time
would only fly on turboprop planes with blank He as
a pilot. In this context, Blanko tells a long and
convoluted tale of multiple airplane acquisitions and sales gone wrong
that led Steve to accuse Blankio trying to rip him off. So,
even though I hadn't done anything, they called me to
(13:20):
Toluca there in Alamalatia restaurant. We had a couple of
rings and some delicious stakes, and we left for Mexico
City to an apartment that belonged to police commandant. I
wasn't guilty of anything, like I said, thank you, insists
(13:42):
that he did not try to rip Steve off, but
that he was the victim of other people's ill will
and nefarious dealings. He also makes it clear that he
did not like his arrangement with Steve. I was looking
for a way out still while he was chewing on
his fine stick, he didn't foresee what lay ahead without
expecting it. Of course, Fiesta here does not refer to
(14:05):
the kind of party he probably wished for. She started
complaining and abusing me in a way I don't even
want to describe, man and that kind of things. They
time me up literally means the heating up, but a
more sober terms, it means torture. Coincidentally, perhaps after having
(14:29):
been tortured by a federal police commander in his own
hotel room, here it was Blankio's business partner torturing him
in a federal police commander's luxury apartment. And once again
we see that violence is not exercised in the battle
between the infringement and the enforcement of the rule of law,
but rather as the preferred manner of conflict resolution in
(14:51):
an industry that depends on official invisibility. Having been captured
and tortured by Steve, the possibility of jail was the
least of Blankio's worries next Time. Transportista is a detective
(15:12):
a production with Exile Content Studio in partnership with iHeart
Radios Michael Dura podcast Network. Directed and narrated by John Gibbler,
Transportista's voice by jrquin Cosio, Editing and sound design by
Ferrando de la Rossa and Pedro Garcia. Reporting by John
Gibbler Emanuelarios produced by Juli Gonzales. Voice recording by Ugo
(15:36):
Merino and Rene Garcia. Transportisas interviews translated by Carlo Rice Arguis.
Production supervision by Nando Vila and Alberto Cespedes. Associate producers
Alonzo Hilar and Alejandro Duran Diego and Riquez rro Is
the creator and executive producer, along with Daniel Eilenberg and Eakle.
(15:57):
Executive producers for I Heart Media are Comma Burn and
just Sell Bunches. For more podcasts from my Heart, visit
the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you
listen to your favorite shows. H
We've spent two days and night trying to locate the plane.
We hoped to find. Unfortunately, the bodies and what was
left on the garago, we couldn't find him. Fernando Blancos
Ascenda spent months coordinating a major cooka in sight from
(00:24):
Columbia Tobacco, California. It arranged for clandestine runways to be
built in the desert, and then it rained. The pilots
couldn't find the washed out runway. They lost communication with
blank Hill and were forced to crash the end of
the dunes. But for two days of looking for the
crash site, some fishermen arrived at the gas station in
(00:44):
the area asking for blank Hill's cousin. They knew where
the plane was. They quickly mobilized to find the plane.
The goods were practically intact, maybe a few package torn.
There were six people on board, two of them in
one piece. Blink said about getting the wounded to the
hospital and the coke to expire and nest of bias Mota.
(01:07):
They sent for them and were stabilized. They injured, They
were very hurt. I had my plane register as an
air ambulance, so I flew them toward Senda. He wanted
to fly the wounded to Cardillo's secret clinic in New
Mexico City, but Bias Mota insisted they treat them locally well.
Mota was overseeing the shipment of the cocaine across the border.
(01:30):
Linkhio says that he hired some people to take dynamite
out to the crash site and blew up the plane.
Then he got word from Mota. It was said, the
last kid has crossed the border, meaning the last killo
had that right to the state heire. Blankhio says that
they all celebrated by partying for two days. He refers
(01:50):
to what would be international sex trafficking in the following terms.
We went on a bush, she wrote, as the girls
from Vega and the room, but began today's sparking non
stop if you can't imagine those sputies. As I noted earlier,
the use of such violent sexist language is common in
(02:12):
blank Hill's tales and throughout what often gets called the
Narco cultura. Blank Your continues, we were staying at the
Holiday Inn, and we moved with the girls to the
Colonial hotel, precisely to avoid attracting unnecessary attention At the
Holiday Inn. The next day, we decided not to sleep
(02:33):
at the Holiday Inn because we felt like we were
being followed. Having just recovered five tons of cocaine from
a plane that has flown from Colombia and crashed in
the desert, beaking four people critically wounded in a local hospital,
and then moving that coke across the border into the
United States, it makes sense that Blankio and his cohort
would feel a bit apprehensive, feel, for example, as if
(02:56):
they were being followed. You walk around your tail and
so some strange stuff. I had even seen some flu
when I left, and indeed there was something they didn't know.
Yet those guys didn't blow up the plane. Someone found
the plane and tipped off the authorities. Federal police have
been tracking blank you on his team for days. So,
(03:19):
to paraphrase Kurt Cobain, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean
the Feds aren't following you. On edge Link. You and
buy as more as half brother decided to pick up
their things from the holiday and leave town. The cops
are waiting for them. Heard as ambushed us. There are
your kill. They took us to the back. They lock
(03:41):
us up in our rooms. They knew who we were.
They knew practically everything. Then the Calindada began, and his
interviews with TV Thank You exhibits an unusual relationship to
acts of violence, often orients his life story around violence.
(04:02):
He suffered multiple kidnappings and torture sessions, but he does
not describe those events in detail. He also shies away
from discussing other acts of violence, whether obscure or famous,
that are related to his story. Only at one point
in his interviews that he seemed to hint that he
had to commit an extreme act of violence to defend himself.
(04:25):
He often describes very close friendships with people like Maloka
Fuentti and who were involved in countless kidnappings and murders.
He talks about flying their families, but does not mention
anything about the violence they carried out, but that Aleva
himself was killed by Mexican marines in two thousand nine,
(04:45):
commandos repelled from helicopters to storm Leva's luxury apartment in Cordovaca.
Those same commandos also placed bloody baso and dollar bills
on his lifeless torso and led the press photographers through
the apartment to take the pa sure this for me
was a key moment in the so called drug war,
the state openly speaking the language of narco terrorism. Some
(05:10):
say that Elapauzman ordered the Marines to produce that image,
which would only add one more turn of the screw.
Throughout his story, Blinkio will often say the name of
a good friend and colleague, someone like Miguel Basan or
Juan al Gomez, and then quickly say they killed him,
without ever saying who they were, what happened, or why.
(05:33):
Violent seems to always hover on the edge of his story,
having just passed through or lingering just out of you.
Reading Blinkfield's transcripts, I was struck by the casual way
he had mentioned that so many of his friends had
been murdered. Was he so inured to the violence of
his trade? Was he avoiding details so as not to
draw attention to himself and have to face questions about
(05:54):
his involvement in such acts of violence? Is it possible
to imagine that a man and old for nearly thirty
years in international drug trafficking would not have participated in kidnappings, torture,
and murder. In January two one colleagues that reached out
(06:18):
to me about a curious individual they've been interviewing using
a clandestine cell phone from inside of prison in North Carolina.
The man claimed to have worked as a pilot, entrepreneur
and air logistics coordinator in the international drug trade for
some thirty years. My friends at the Dictive produced a
podcast in Spanish and wanted to know if I'd be
(06:38):
interested in working on a sister podcast in English looking
into this man and his story. Sure, I said, but
I need to do my own investigations see what I
can find. Thetieve invited the legendary Mexican actor Joaquin Coco
to read the English translations of Transportista's quoted interviews with
Manue Latius. My name, I guess is John Gibbler, and this,
(07:01):
in a sense is Transportista episode six. Las Callin tell
us the police rushed to blink you in his colleague
as they approached the holiday in. They took them into
(07:24):
a back entrance and up the blink Hill's room, where
they began to torture them. They put us both in
there in my room, and that's when it all went down.
We could listen to the complete ciasco through the radios.
There we are getting the beating of our lives. Blink
Hill says that he and his colleague tried to deny
(07:44):
who they were and what they had done, but it
was obvious that the police knew everything. They took them
both to a federal police station and continued to beat them.
After a while, it became clear that the two million
dollars Blinkyo's employer had paid to the police have been
stolen by a subordinate. The truth came out the commandante
(08:06):
had stolen the bribe money. The police commander thus realized
that the people he had been torturing were not responsible
for the mishap, and offered to write their supposed confessions
in such a way that a judge would be forced
to throw them out. Thank you. To thank the man
who had tortured him, offered to give him a collector's
watch man. They say, thank you very much. Commandante over there,
(08:31):
I had a goal GMT Master too. I'm going to
give it to you. No, no, no, no, he said,
I don't need anything. I have plenty of watches. Keep
your stuff, you're gonna need it, he said. Thank your
story here, assuming it's true, illustrates a common feature of
the drug war. The federal police don't arrest drug traffickers
(08:52):
when they traffic drugs, but rather they kidnap and torture
drug traffickers who haven't paid them. Once the police found
out who owned the cocaine shipment and that they had
made the proper payment, they lost all interest in blank
you on his colleague. One can only imagine, however, what
happened to the subcommandante. So blink You in jail then
(09:14):
faced an unusual problem. From the beginning. They said it
was a total nobody, but it was in the room
place of the room time, which obviously wasn't the case.
He said he was a nobody and his confession was admissible.
It seemed he'd be released quickly, But then his various
employers got worried and they all sent their best lawyers
(09:35):
to help him out. But with all those lawyers, they're waiting,
speaking with the prosecutor, speaking with the judge. The judge said, no, no, no,
I'm not letting you go at the preliminary huting man.
I'll pass and leave the problem into a district judge
(09:56):
or some other judge who gets your case. Blink You
goes into detail, naming the famous Narco lawyers who went
to defend him, but in the end he would be
in prison for eighteen months and then released. And his interviews,
he recalls those eighteen months in jail and the rather
offensive terms we already heard an episode four. The way
Blankiell talks about women was the first thing that struck
(10:18):
me when I listened to a story, but we won't
repeat that here. Once out of jail, blank he says
that he moved around quite a bit. My first traveled
to Tijuana, Mexicali to get myself together, so to say.
I divided my time between Mexico City and SENAA Mexicali,
Tijuana and got to work. I did a few jobs.
(10:42):
It was coordinating with some Colombian friends, and got back
to work. And we keep going doing pretty well, driving
with some lucky strikes, magnificent negotiations. Everything was moved sailing.
During this time, blank as that he was kidnapped and
forced to fly for the nephew of a well known trafficker.
(11:04):
After his plane broke down on one of those flights,
he fled to Los Angeles. There he worked for a
time selling planes to drug traffickers. Then Amalo Carrillo once
again sought him out, and asked for a favor. He
wanted to know if Linkio could fly a lear Jet
thirty five for a friend. Blenko went to Chihuahua to
(11:25):
meet this friend, and there he also met a man.
He asked that the divette not to name. I'll call
him Steve. Steve is in prison for many years. He
was released some ten years ago in a technicality, with
the Mexican Federal Attorney General immediately appealed. He is known
to be given to extreme acts of violence, and he
is currently at large. Back in the mid nineties, Blinkio
(11:50):
decided to work with both Amalo Carrio's friend and with Steve.
He went to Vanna's, California to take some lear Jet
flight courses while he was off studying. However, and my
look Ario's friend was murdered, so it would just be
blank Hill and Steve. In the beginning, my business was
using my planes in exchange for a percentage for the transportation.
(12:13):
That's how it began. I did a couple of world
It is around this time that Blinkio says he became
close friends with Artur and started working with him as well.
Blankio charged Steve around two hundred thousand dollars per flight.
Steve decided this was too expensive. Instead of taking his
business elsewhere, however, he decided to buy blank Hill's business
(12:35):
from him and then hire him as a pilot. Wait,
when I buy the planes and helps you on a
pay your role. It wasn't a suggestion, but rather an order.
So he bowed the planes. Steve started plankling. He was
sixty five thousand dollars of light. Blank Hill says he
quickly became tired of this arrangement. He started flying more
(12:57):
with Artur beltran Leva, who he says, for a time
would only fly on turboprop planes with blank He as
a pilot. In this context, Blanko tells a long and
convoluted tale of multiple airplane acquisitions and sales gone wrong
that led Steve to accuse Blankio trying to rip him off. So,
even though I hadn't done anything, they called me to
(13:20):
Toluca there in Alamalatia restaurant. We had a couple of
rings and some delicious stakes, and we left for Mexico
City to an apartment that belonged to police commandant. I
wasn't guilty of anything, like I said, thank you, insists
(13:42):
that he did not try to rip Steve off, but
that he was the victim of other people's ill will
and nefarious dealings. He also makes it clear that he
did not like his arrangement with Steve. I was looking
for a way out still while he was chewing on
his fine stick, he didn't foresee what lay ahead without
expecting it. Of course, Fiesta here does not refer to
(14:05):
the kind of party he probably wished for. She started
complaining and abusing me in a way I don't even
want to describe, man and that kind of things. They
time me up literally means the heating up, but a
more sober terms, it means torture. Coincidentally, perhaps after having
(14:29):
been tortured by a federal police commander in his own
hotel room, here it was Blankio's business partner torturing him
in a federal police commander's luxury apartment. And once again
we see that violence is not exercised in the battle
between the infringement and the enforcement of the rule of law,
but rather as the preferred manner of conflict resolution in
(14:51):
an industry that depends on official invisibility. Having been captured
and tortured by Steve, the possibility of jail was the
least of Blankio's worries next Time. Transportista is a detective
(15:12):
a production with Exile Content Studio in partnership with iHeart
Radios Michael Dura podcast Network. Directed and narrated by John Gibbler,
Transportista's voice by jrquin Cosio, Editing and sound design by
Ferrando de la Rossa and Pedro Garcia. Reporting by John
Gibbler Emanuelarios produced by Juli Gonzales. Voice recording by Ugo
(15:36):
Merino and Rene Garcia. Transportisas interviews translated by Carlo Rice Arguis.
Production supervision by Nando Vila and Alberto Cespedes. Associate producers
Alonzo Hilar and Alejandro Duran Diego and Riquez rro Is
the creator and executive producer, along with Daniel Eilenberg and Eakle.
(15:57):
Executive producers for I Heart Media are Comma Burn and
just Sell Bunches. For more podcasts from my Heart, visit
the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you
listen to your favorite shows. H
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