March 21, 2023 • 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, guys. It's Rebecca and Caroline and we are here
because we've got some really exciting things for you today.
But before that, we want to let you know that
there is a season two on the way, and we're
not going to tell you exactly when it'll be here,
so just stay tuned watch this channel. We promise you
it's soon. But before that comes out, we just wanted
to hop on because something really exciting has just happened.
(00:27):
Paris Hilton, who's the executive producer of Trapped in Treatment,
has just debuted her memoir, Paris the Memoir, and it
has been such a joy reading through this book. It's
deeply revealing, and it really is Paris reclaiming her voice
and sharing with the world all of who she is
and celebrating that. And she not only talks about her
(00:49):
life and her growing up years and like all the
things that you want to know about that happened behind
the scenes of like what is it like to be Paris,
but she also talks a lot about the trouble team
industry in parts of her story that we have never
heard before. So, Rebecca, you were actually there as she
was developing this book, So I mean, what was that
(01:09):
like I was, and it's been such an honor. And
we talked about in season one, you know, how we
got our start, and it really was from This Is Paris,
the documentary that she came out with back in twenty twenty,
and I have been a part of her advocacy journey
over the last two years, and just seeing her come
into her voice and own her survivorship and be comfortable
connecting with and talking about the troubled teen industry, I
(01:33):
think has also led her to feel comfortable sharing all
the other aspects of herself and lived experience that she's
never shared before, like sexual abuse and her experience with ADHD,
which is one piece of this memoir that is so
deeply inspiring and will connect with the absolute masses. She
views ADHD as her superpower, which is just such an
(01:53):
incredible way to reframe that diagnosis and really look at
it as a positive. And Caroline, I know, I know
you really connected with that as well. Yeah, as someone
with ADHD, and I think, as most people do who
are neurodivergent, we like try to fit into the neurotypical
(02:14):
box and so hearing it reframed in this other way
was so encouraging, and it made me feel it made
me feel good. It made me feel super super good.
So we did get to talk to Paris a couple
of weeks ago before the launch of the book, and
we wanted to share that with you. Super exciting because
(02:35):
we're only a few weeks out from you releasing your memoir. Paris, Yes,
and so I'm curious just how you're feeling about sharing
it with the world. I have lots of emotions. I've
been in this recording studio all week actually the past
(02:55):
like six days straight doing the audiobook version of it,
So just having to read it all out loud was
super emotional and super difficult, especially you know, being in
the room. So the director and the engineer and one
of the other recording assistants, so I was like three
(03:16):
guys in the room I've never met before. I'm saying
my story. They all are like, well, and then we
would have a break and they would be like, yeah,
when we were recording this, Harris Hilton, you know book,
this was not what we were expecting. They're like, wow,
like you have really been through it, Like you are
(03:39):
such a badass, and like I'm so just blown away
by just your story and this is like this sounds
like some like crazy movie, Like I can't believe that
this is happening in these places. So the book just
it really has it all. I I've you know, revealed
(04:02):
things that I've never told anyone in my entire life,
like my sister or my mom, my closest friends. I
really just put it all out there, and especially everything
that happened to me at Provocanian School and c DO
and Ascent and Cascade because I in my documentary I
(04:26):
wasn't really even ready to tell my story then, so
a lot of the story is not in the film
because I didn't know it was going to be such
a big part of the documentary until the director was like,
we need this is like so important for the story
to come out and people need to know what's happening.
So at that point, I wasn't even ready to fully
(04:46):
speak about it. But in this book, I go into
full detail of every single thing. So that yeah, I'm
I'm very I don't know. I'm I'm excited because I
know it's an important story to tell, but I'm also
just scared because it's just so many things and I
(05:09):
just know how the world is and you know, there's
the judgmental people who are not going to actually read
the whole book. They'll just only read certain excerpts. So
I just get I don't know, there's a lot of
emotions in me, but I also know that people need
to know just how horrible these places are. And I
(05:29):
talk about other things in the book too, there's happy
times as well, Like I've obviously lived a very full
and exciting life, but you know before behind all the
glitter and all of that, there's um a lot of
pain and a lot of trauma and yeah, just a
(05:50):
lot of things that again all stem back to Provo
Canyan School and these facilities they really have. It may
not seem like get on the outside, but it's really
damaged me on the inside in so many ways. And
with my family, you know, it's just been rebuilding those
relationships because in those places, you just learn to not
(06:12):
trust anyone and to not depend on anyone, and they
pit you against everyone, and they make you think that
your family hates you and they don't want you in
all this It's just it's a lot. But I'm so
proud of this book, and I've already even seeing the
book reviews coming in and I'm just blown away just
by the words of these really amazing reviewers, who you know,
(06:38):
are very tough critics, and they all are just blown
away by the book and just saying how incredible it is,
and that's I don't know, there's a lot in there,
so be prepared, be prepared to be very surprised, very
very very surprised. Well, I had the honor of reading
(06:59):
it already, and there was so much in there, not
as a survivor of the troubled team industry, but just
a woman living through, you know, this crazy world that
I related to, and you do such a good job
telling a full story, and I think when survivors read it,
they are going to be so impacted by the experience thereafter, because,
(07:21):
like you just said, in This is Paris, you really
only talked about the experience, and of course you talked
about the nightmares and why you were coming forward with it,
but it was just it was so incredible to read.
So I'm so glad that you are publishing this. And
I'm just curious why you feel now is the moment,
you know, why do you feel ready to release the
(07:42):
full story. I just feel that I have been through
so much in life, and I feel that it's empowering
to be vulnerable and be real. And it's just I
know that there's so many things in there, the other
(08:03):
girls of experience that maybe they have not wanted to
wanted to share and have held in. And you know,
it's not just only about the trouble teen industry. There's
a lot about that, but just other things that have
happened in my life and experiences where when you're a
young girl, I think that you put a lot of
(08:24):
blame on yourself for horrible things that people do to you.
And I just wanted anyone out there to know they're
not alone and I don't. It's hard to describe because
this book just has every like as you know you
read it, it's has just everything and it's just a
(08:46):
it's a wild, wild, crazy story, like my life is
just it's crazy and good ways and bad ways. Um.
I think it's also how how you wrote it, like
the tone of the book, which I think is going
to surprise a lot of people, Like it's it's a
roller coaster ap it is, but it's so empowering, Like
(09:08):
you go from crying to laughing so wanting to go
charge up there to the capital and fight for whatever
it is you've experienced and whatever your lived experiences. But
it's beautiful and there's hope despite you know, all the
tough times, and so yeah, I think we'll work hard
(09:30):
to make sure that everybody feels seen and heard, no
matter what their experience is. Yes, Caroline hasn't read it yet,
but she's excited. I'm anxious to read it. I'm waiting
for it to come out and I will get the
very first copy. Loves it. I'm so glad we got
(09:56):
that moment with Paris before she went on her worldwide
book tour and shared this whole thing with the world.
That was really special and amazing. And Caroline, I know
at that time you hadn't read the book yet, but
as you've gotten the chance to read it over this
last week, I'm just so curious. Without giving too many spoilers,
because obviously we very much recommend that everybody go by
the book and read all about her experience. But Caroline,
(10:18):
what really impacted you? First off, I have not been
able to put the book down. And I'm not just
saying that as a plug, like I truly mean it.
Reading the pages of her memoir. Not only do I
feel like I'm listening to a best friend's story, but
it has completely taken me back to my adolescence and
(10:41):
just the journey of like figuring out who you are
and all of the messiness that comes with that. And
then on top of that, the parts that she discusses
about being in the troubled teen industry programs that she
went to. Wow, I mean, I just so vividly reminded
(11:03):
me of that desperation that you feel as a kid
in the program in that moment. And I really have
to applaud her. Again not giving too much away here,
but I really have to applaud her for all of
her efforts and getting out of the program and all
of her runaway attempts. So the book goes into a
lot of detail about that, and like the whole time,
(11:26):
I'm just like rooting for Paris, like go, go, run, run,
get out of there. And yeah, it is just it's
really a captivating memoir. It's amazing to hear how you
related to the story, and we know so many people
are going to relate to all of those different aspects,
(11:46):
and certainly over the last two years, I mean, the
whole purpose of trapped in treatment is really to storytell
and to raise awareness and give voice to survivors. And
this is really just that next iteration for Paris to
get her story out there universally relate to others and
make sure that they feel seen and to make sure
that they feel heard. And so the one thing that
I do really want to share is that Paris has
(12:08):
started a campaign called I Am and we are encouraging
and inviting others to really tell the world hashtag this
is who I am and celebrate all of the multitudes
that make everybody unique and truly them. And so one
of the opportunities that we have going on right now,
and actually this is happening tomorrow, so make sure that
(12:31):
you get your phones out there and are ready to
type this in. But Paris used one of the largest,
most dynamic billboards in Times Square to tell her story
on the day of her book launch. And because so
many people are relating to her particular lived experience, we
want to give them voice. We want to give them
the opportunity to share their story on one of the
(12:52):
largest platforms in the world, which is this billboard. And
so you can go to TSX dot Live and you
can fload your fifteen second video. Please use the caption
I am x y Z however you relate to an
I am statement. And let's celebrate everybody for who they are.
So go to TSX dot live and upload your content
(13:14):
and you will be on the billboard tomorrow. And I'm
just so beyond excited to see a community of diverse
voices and representation all celebrating each other. I think it's
going to be a really cool moment. That is so cool, Rebecca,
I can't wait to see everyone up on that ginormous
billboard hashtag this is who I am. Thank you so
(13:37):
much for joining us today. Stay tuned to this channel.
As we mentioned, season two of Trapped in Treatment is
on the way and we cannot wait to share what
we have in store for you. See you then,
Hi, guys. It's Rebecca and Caroline and we are here
because we've got some really exciting things for you today.
But before that, we want to let you know that
there is a season two on the way, and we're
not going to tell you exactly when it'll be here,
so just stay tuned watch this channel. We promise you
it's soon. But before that comes out, we just wanted
to hop on because something really exciting has just happened.
(00:27):
Paris Hilton, who's the executive producer of Trapped in Treatment,
has just debuted her memoir, Paris the Memoir, and it
has been such a joy reading through this book. It's
deeply revealing, and it really is Paris reclaiming her voice
and sharing with the world all of who she is
and celebrating that. And she not only talks about her
(00:49):
life and her growing up years and like all the
things that you want to know about that happened behind
the scenes of like what is it like to be Paris,
but she also talks a lot about the trouble team
industry in parts of her story that we have never
heard before. So, Rebecca, you were actually there as she
was developing this book, So I mean, what was that
(01:09):
like I was, and it's been such an honor. And
we talked about in season one, you know, how we
got our start, and it really was from This Is Paris,
the documentary that she came out with back in twenty twenty,
and I have been a part of her advocacy journey
over the last two years, and just seeing her come
into her voice and own her survivorship and be comfortable
connecting with and talking about the troubled teen industry, I
(01:33):
think has also led her to feel comfortable sharing all
the other aspects of herself and lived experience that she's
never shared before, like sexual abuse and her experience with ADHD,
which is one piece of this memoir that is so
deeply inspiring and will connect with the absolute masses. She
views ADHD as her superpower, which is just such an
(01:53):
incredible way to reframe that diagnosis and really look at
it as a positive. And Caroline, I know, I know
you really connected with that as well. Yeah, as someone
with ADHD, and I think, as most people do who
are neurodivergent, we like try to fit into the neurotypical
(02:14):
box and so hearing it reframed in this other way
was so encouraging, and it made me feel it made
me feel good. It made me feel super super good.
So we did get to talk to Paris a couple
of weeks ago before the launch of the book, and
we wanted to share that with you. Super exciting because
(02:35):
we're only a few weeks out from you releasing your memoir. Paris, Yes,
and so I'm curious just how you're feeling about sharing
it with the world. I have lots of emotions. I've
been in this recording studio all week actually the past
(02:55):
like six days straight doing the audiobook version of it,
So just having to read it all out loud was
super emotional and super difficult, especially you know, being in
the room. So the director and the engineer and one
of the other recording assistants, so I was like three
(03:16):
guys in the room I've never met before. I'm saying
my story. They all are like, well, and then we
would have a break and they would be like, yeah,
when we were recording this, Harris Hilton, you know book,
this was not what we were expecting. They're like, wow,
like you have really been through it, Like you are
(03:39):
such a badass, and like I'm so just blown away
by just your story and this is like this sounds
like some like crazy movie, Like I can't believe that
this is happening in these places. So the book just
it really has it all. I I've you know, revealed
(04:02):
things that I've never told anyone in my entire life,
like my sister or my mom, my closest friends. I
really just put it all out there, and especially everything
that happened to me at Provocanian School and c DO
and Ascent and Cascade because I in my documentary I
(04:26):
wasn't really even ready to tell my story then, so
a lot of the story is not in the film
because I didn't know it was going to be such
a big part of the documentary until the director was like,
we need this is like so important for the story
to come out and people need to know what's happening.
So at that point, I wasn't even ready to fully
(04:46):
speak about it. But in this book, I go into
full detail of every single thing. So that yeah, I'm
I'm very I don't know. I'm I'm excited because I
know it's an important story to tell, but I'm also
just scared because it's just so many things and I
(05:09):
just know how the world is and you know, there's
the judgmental people who are not going to actually read
the whole book. They'll just only read certain excerpts. So
I just get I don't know, there's a lot of
emotions in me, but I also know that people need
to know just how horrible these places are. And I
(05:29):
talk about other things in the book too, there's happy
times as well, Like I've obviously lived a very full
and exciting life, but you know before behind all the
glitter and all of that, there's um a lot of
pain and a lot of trauma and yeah, just a
(05:50):
lot of things that again all stem back to Provo
Canyan School and these facilities they really have. It may
not seem like get on the outside, but it's really
damaged me on the inside in so many ways. And
with my family, you know, it's just been rebuilding those
relationships because in those places, you just learn to not
(06:12):
trust anyone and to not depend on anyone, and they
pit you against everyone, and they make you think that
your family hates you and they don't want you in
all this It's just it's a lot. But I'm so
proud of this book, and I've already even seeing the
book reviews coming in and I'm just blown away just
by the words of these really amazing reviewers, who you know,
(06:38):
are very tough critics, and they all are just blown
away by the book and just saying how incredible it is,
and that's I don't know, there's a lot in there,
so be prepared, be prepared to be very surprised, very
very very surprised. Well, I had the honor of reading
(06:59):
it already, and there was so much in there, not
as a survivor of the troubled team industry, but just
a woman living through, you know, this crazy world that
I related to, and you do such a good job
telling a full story, and I think when survivors read it,
they are going to be so impacted by the experience thereafter, because,
(07:21):
like you just said, in This is Paris, you really
only talked about the experience, and of course you talked
about the nightmares and why you were coming forward with it,
but it was just it was so incredible to read.
So I'm so glad that you are publishing this. And
I'm just curious why you feel now is the moment,
you know, why do you feel ready to release the
(07:42):
full story. I just feel that I have been through
so much in life, and I feel that it's empowering
to be vulnerable and be real. And it's just I
know that there's so many things in there, the other
(08:03):
girls of experience that maybe they have not wanted to
wanted to share and have held in. And you know,
it's not just only about the trouble teen industry. There's
a lot about that, but just other things that have
happened in my life and experiences where when you're a
young girl, I think that you put a lot of
(08:24):
blame on yourself for horrible things that people do to you.
And I just wanted anyone out there to know they're
not alone and I don't. It's hard to describe because
this book just has every like as you know you
read it, it's has just everything and it's just a
(08:46):
it's a wild, wild, crazy story, like my life is
just it's crazy and good ways and bad ways. Um.
I think it's also how how you wrote it, like
the tone of the book, which I think is going
to surprise a lot of people, Like it's it's a
roller coaster ap it is, but it's so empowering, Like
(09:08):
you go from crying to laughing so wanting to go
charge up there to the capital and fight for whatever
it is you've experienced and whatever your lived experiences. But
it's beautiful and there's hope despite you know, all the
tough times, and so yeah, I think we'll work hard
(09:30):
to make sure that everybody feels seen and heard, no
matter what their experience is. Yes, Caroline hasn't read it yet,
but she's excited. I'm anxious to read it. I'm waiting
for it to come out and I will get the
very first copy. Loves it. I'm so glad we got
(09:56):
that moment with Paris before she went on her worldwide
book tour and shared this whole thing with the world.
That was really special and amazing. And Caroline, I know
at that time you hadn't read the book yet, but
as you've gotten the chance to read it over this
last week, I'm just so curious. Without giving too many spoilers,
because obviously we very much recommend that everybody go by
the book and read all about her experience. But Caroline,
(10:18):
what really impacted you? First off, I have not been
able to put the book down. And I'm not just
saying that as a plug, like I truly mean it.
Reading the pages of her memoir. Not only do I
feel like I'm listening to a best friend's story, but
it has completely taken me back to my adolescence and
(10:41):
just the journey of like figuring out who you are
and all of the messiness that comes with that. And
then on top of that, the parts that she discusses
about being in the troubled teen industry programs that she
went to. Wow, I mean, I just so vividly reminded
(11:03):
me of that desperation that you feel as a kid
in the program in that moment. And I really have
to applaud her. Again not giving too much away here,
but I really have to applaud her for all of
her efforts and getting out of the program and all
of her runaway attempts. So the book goes into a
lot of detail about that, and like the whole time,
(11:26):
I'm just like rooting for Paris, like go, go, run, run,
get out of there. And yeah, it is just it's
really a captivating memoir. It's amazing to hear how you
related to the story, and we know so many people
are going to relate to all of those different aspects,
(11:46):
and certainly over the last two years, I mean, the
whole purpose of trapped in treatment is really to storytell
and to raise awareness and give voice to survivors. And
this is really just that next iteration for Paris to
get her story out there universally relate to others and
make sure that they feel seen and to make sure
that they feel heard. And so the one thing that
I do really want to share is that Paris has
(12:08):
started a campaign called I Am and we are encouraging
and inviting others to really tell the world hashtag this
is who I am and celebrate all of the multitudes
that make everybody unique and truly them. And so one
of the opportunities that we have going on right now,
and actually this is happening tomorrow, so make sure that
(12:31):
you get your phones out there and are ready to
type this in. But Paris used one of the largest,
most dynamic billboards in Times Square to tell her story
on the day of her book launch. And because so
many people are relating to her particular lived experience, we
want to give them voice. We want to give them
the opportunity to share their story on one of the
(12:52):
largest platforms in the world, which is this billboard. And
so you can go to TSX dot Live and you
can fload your fifteen second video. Please use the caption
I am x y Z however you relate to an
I am statement. And let's celebrate everybody for who they are.
So go to TSX dot live and upload your content
(13:14):
and you will be on the billboard tomorrow. And I'm
just so beyond excited to see a community of diverse
voices and representation all celebrating each other. I think it's
going to be a really cool moment. That is so cool, Rebecca,
I can't wait to see everyone up on that ginormous
billboard hashtag this is who I am. Thank you so
(13:37):
much for joining us today. Stay tuned to this channel.
As we mentioned, season two of Trapped in Treatment is
on the way and we cannot wait to share what
we have in store for you. See you then,
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