March 29, 2023 • 35 mins
Anna Paulina Luna is a Congresswoman representing Florida's 13th district.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Buck Sexton Show. On this episode,
Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, which is so fun to say
because I knew her when she was just Anna Paulina,
a friend of mine for years, and now she is
a member of United States Congress. She's also a veteran
and somebody who's got a whole range of things to
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talk to us about today, Anna Paulina, Great to have
you on the program, Very exciting, very happy to be back. Buck.
So I don't want to start with this. There's a
lot of big issues. We got to save America. It's
keeping me busy, keeping you busy different ways, but we're
rowing the boat in the same directions. How's being in Congress?
You know, this is funny because really you're like a
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peer of mine that I knew outside. And there were
a whole bunch of friends of mine who ran in
this last cycle. By the way, you were one. I
think I had about six or seven friends running for Congress.
You're the only one who won. So thank you, well done.
And what's it like? It's been a pretty crazy learning experience.
What I keep what really blows my mind is how
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time works in Washington. So I've only been in for
a little over two months now, maybe going on three months,
But the craziest thing is that I feel like I've
already been there for like ten years. And then when
I go up to Washington, you know, you live your
life in fifteen minute increments, whether it's meetings, whether it's
running in between committees, hearings, testifying, all of that, and
so it's a huge learning curve. But really everything that
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I thought going into this, you know, one of my
biggest goals for why I wanted to run is I
really wanted to help change the national discussion on issues
and how to fix these problems. And as a member
of Congress, you know, my hunch was correct. Now when
I send out press releases, when I'm debating on the
House floor, when I'm talking in committee, the press picks
up on that, and it really does contribute to not
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only educating the American people, but also to solving some
of these problems. So it's been a really rewarding experience.
It's a ton of work. I definitely am not going
to be doing it forever, but I don't ever anticipate
or take it for granted that I'm just going to
get reelected. So I'm making account while I'm there, and
I'm very honored to represent Florida's thirteenth congressional district. So,
know what do people who who were paying very close
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attention to the rebels. I don't know if you guys
ever had an official an official name, but the rebels
pretty good, right, you know, insurgence makes people think of
something else, So I think rebels is probably pretty pretty good.
But you guys didn't just go along with the McCarthy speakership.
You there was wrangling for a few days. I remember saying.
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I was like, Yeah, isn't this what is supposed to
happen in Congress? What do people need to know about?
What really came out of that? What happened? So there
was the speakers fight, McCarthy became the speaker, but some stuff,
some concessions were made. What do people need to know? Well, also,
some of the biggest concessions were actually already seeing it
play out. And really this was when I tell people,
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it's like if you have an argument with your brother
or sister, right like, sometimes it's really good to just
clear the air. You guys come to an agreement, and
then you move forward and as a result of that,
I mean, not only did other members in our Republican
delegation actually see what we were negotiating, and actually during
that entire time, through all fifteen rounds, we're pulling us
aside and saying like, look, we really appreciate what you're doing,
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we support it. We don't really want to say anything
because we don't want to get in trouble necessarily, But ultimately,
as a result of that, the entire conference feels a
lot more united. But one of the biggest things that
we did was we set the bar and negotiating platform
for whether or not we were going to be raising
the debt ceiling. We set the terms and conditions for
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ultimately getting rid of the consolidation of power that existed
in the House. So under Nancy Pelosi, she got rid
of an accountability mechanism called the motion to vacate the chair,
which means that if you have a Speaker of the
House and they go back on their promise to the
delegation and to the American people on what their goals
and objectives are for the country, you can actually do
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something called vacating the chair. And it was actually put
in place by Thomas Jefferson, which stood for over two
hundred years, and of course Pelosi got the gabble and
she basically ran it like she was basically the Supreme Chancellor.
I mean, there was no voices for the representatives. We
couldn't bring amendments to the floor. You had the Rules
Committee that a lot of people might not realize, but
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it's a small group of elected representatives. A lot of
them were moderates. And so when people want to know,
you know, why was it in twenty sixteen when President
Trump had the White House, the Congress, and Senate, why
couldn't he pass certain legislation, Well, it's because the Rules
Committee killed that legislation. And so we actually fought to
get conservatives people that actually have, in my opinion, being
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a conservative, better approaches not just to fiscal responsibility, but
also to to backing the constitution. Get these conservatives in
positions where they can have a voice, whether it is
on appropriation with the budget plan, whether it is on
the rules Committee, so that we can bring rules to
the floor. And then obviously one of my favorite is
I ran on term limits and we actually have an
agreement to bring a bill to the floor to vote
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on whether or not. We were going to pass term
limits in the House, and so you will be able
to see exactly what members of Congress are for and
against term limits, which is something we really need in
this country. The dead ceiling fight that looms, is it
going to be a real fight? And do you think
we could actually get something out of it? Yeah, we
will be getting something out of it. And I say
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that I was actually just at an event with Representative
Jim Jordan and Chairman Scott Perry of the Freedom Caucus
and we actually, as a Freedom Caucus adopted an official
position and put it out for everyone to see. So
if you really want to look into that, you can
head over to the Freedom Caucus website and check it out.
And not even two hours after we did that press conference,
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you had the Biden White House saying that MAGA extremists
were basically trying to shut down the country, which is
not true. All we're simply saying is we're not going
to continue down this path of reckless spending. We know
the Biden budget, which he's not going to get, by
the way, wanted to increase by trillions of dollars, and
we're saying, hey, COVID is no more. Why are we
still operating in pandemic level spendings when it's been declared
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not even a national emergency anymore. So we're going to
go back to or attempt to go back to twenty
nineteen fiscal spending, and then we are going to do
something called recisions, which is a mechanism that Congress has
to actually claw back some of the money that was
already allocated to be spent for a lot of these
woke programs, and we're actually going to bring that back. So, like,
even if we don't raise the debt ceiling and just
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operate as is, what ends up happening is that's gonna
be the first time and I'd say over a decade
that we haven't raised the debt ceiling, and in my opinion,
we shouldn't be raising it. You know, at some point
someone's going to have to pay for this. And I
hate to bring up what happened with SVB Bank, but
that's a bailout. You know, a lot of people don't
want to call it that, but it is, and we're
going to be the ones paying for it. So conservatives
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are being branded as you know, kind of the leper,
the lepers in Washington because we don't want to, you know,
just cave roll over and state we'll deal with it later.
We're going to handle it now. And I think that
we'll actually get something done this cycle. So remember we
have those twenty names, and those twenty names aren't playing,
you know, you Chip Roy Massey. I mean, some of
the names that have been involved so far, it makes
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me think these are people who are going to see
this through. Yes, and yeah, I think I think that's
one lesson that people should take from all this. But
what does victory in a debt ceiling fight look given
the realities of where we are, you know, politically, what
does victory in the debt ceiling fight this year look like?
Meaning best possible? I'm not saying what will happen? What
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is best possible scenario? From a conservative perspective, I'd say
best possible is, if possible, not raising the debt ceiling,
going back to pre pandemic level spending, and then recisions.
Recisions are important because when you have the administration and
really what they did with the Omnibus, which let's be
clear that was completely wrong. They should have not done that,
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and really we were stabbed in literally not even the back,
but in the front by you know, Mitch McConnell in
regards to that. But with a lot of what we're
seeing happening is, you know, we need to be able
to take that back and a lot of these programs,
you have pots of money that are basically sitting in
different programs, different places around the country that are untouched.
And yet you have different entities of the federal government
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that are saying that they can't operate if we don't
continue to raise it, when again, we're out of a pandemic.
So we need to seriously look at this. I frankly
don't care if people don't like me for saying this,
but like you would never operate your own bank account
the way that some of these representatives operate the federal
government's budget, And so I think that that's important to
note that you have people up there that are basically
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spending I don't know if they don't realize that if
you spend recklessly, it leads to inflation and it's going
to tank our country. But every single you know, major
empire has failed because of what we're seeing happening now,
and so it would be stupid to continue down the
same path. Of doing the same thing over and over again.
I want to ask me come back in a second.
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could do, like the kind of things that they should
be saying they will do if all goes according to
plan for twenty twenty four, what are they give me?
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One or two? Number one that's very realistic that we're
already starting to see movement on is decoupling from China.
So I'll give you an example. We basically one of
the committees that I'm on, I'm on Oversight, which conducts
the investigations, and then Natural Resources, which handles a lot
of our American energy independence and the natural resources here
in this country. But you know, we passed an amendment
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to really prevent any company that is engaged in illegal
mining operations or human rights abuses and other parts of
the world to actually be able to mine here in
the United States. So China has a lot of these
companies and then they work with American based companies and yet,
for example, their cobalt mines in the Congo. You actually
have young people that sometimes youngest two years old up
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to seventeen, that they're drugging, starving, and basically operating slave minds,
and then we buy it here and consume that here
in the United States. So I think from a humanitarian
perspective and American abundance for energy, really allowing that that
angle to operate here at home is the best right.
Even if you look at it from a climate change perspective,
China is destroying the environment, and so I've actually gotten
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to a few of these debates on natural resources. Even
if you're talking from that perspective. Let's say you believe
in climate change, Well, China's destroy the environment, so why
wouldn't we do it here at home? And so I
think that d couple, whether it's from a production perspective
or from just a human rights perspective, I think that
that's going to start to happen. And then my number
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one thing that I've been talking about for years and
I still think is probably single handedly the most important
thing that we can do as a country is really
to break up big tech. And so, as I'm sure
you saw with that oversight hearing where I had Yo
Roth from Twitter in there and we were questioning them
about Kia and how they were illegally coordinating with the
Department of Homeland Security and these outside organizations to censor
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the American people. You know that should never happen. But
realize that these companies, being as powerful as they are,
they are still actively engaged in suppression and they are
really tilting the balance in regards to some of these elections,
even with information just for presidential cycles. And so we
have to break that up. That's kind of our new fight.
That's going to be our generation's version of the Alama.
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And so I'm peer for it. I'm leading it. I
think right you're yelling, yelling for the rampart, You're you're
throwing down over this. You're not You're not just You're
not just president. You are you are storming the barricades.
Um Actually want to ask you also about because you mentioned,
you know, China and foreign influence and all the rest
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of it, does anything actually happen to any of the
Biden family members with all the CCP money that's come in,
all the COMI cash from Beijing that's been floated into
the coffers of the Biden family, do you think anything
really happens You're on House oversight. So we just last week,
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we just received information in regards to this is from
the Treasury, So it's not just from a random sources
from the actual Treasury that showed that the Biden and
the Biden family was receiving wire transfers from the CCP
into the millions of dollars within months of him leaving
office as Vice president. And then from the administration's perspective,
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we see this massive soft on China approach where they
are literally coddling the CCP. So you cannot tell me
that this administration, that this president is not compromised, but
in my opinion, the Justice Department is compromised. And so
what ends up happening is where they would typically bring
investigations forward, where you would typically have that accountability accountability mechanism.
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Right now, I don't think that that really exists. Like
if that was like that was me, for example, and
my husband was receiving wire transfers from the CCP, like
I'd probably be in jail, I wouldn't be able to
hold office. And so the fact is is that it's wrong.
What's happening. We have something that we also negotiated in
the Speakers debate known as the hallam And rule, and
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that can defund any federal position and basically remove the job.
We actually put it in place because of what happened
with doctor Fauci and the fact that he was obviously
not working in the best interests of the American people
during Code Response. But I believe that we can use
that position as well for you know, the DJ if
they're not going to do their jobs, and these people
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that are corrupt, why should we be paying them. That's
kind of that accountability mechanism that Congress has. We have
the purse strings, right, and so that's what we're going
to try to use. But it's really upsetting sometimes, especially
as a member of Congress, because you realize that as
a Republican, as a conservative, even when we take back
the White House and the Senate, that the corruption and
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bureaucracy in Washington, DC it's there. And that's why I
encourage people if you are looking to get involved in politics,
if you're really just tired of seeing what's happening, get
go to DC, like be the new blood that we
need there because people get entrenched and really a member,
you know, whether you're in Senate, whether you're in Congress.
Even a president, it's still a term. You have to
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get reelected. But these bureaucrats stay there for decades and
so they're the ones that have the consolidation of power
that I think are responsible for. This is the swamp drainable.
It is, but it's going to take more people getting involved.
You know, a lot of people say, well, I'm going
to do it by running for Congress. I'm going to
do it by running for exenate. That is only one part.
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We actually have to have good people up there that
are pushing in new blood, whether it's you know, and
this is the one thing I will say, whoever the
next president is, which I've already publicly pledge my support
for President Trump, but either which way, we need people
from outside Washington to be appointed to some of the
positions because it has become so bad up there right
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now that what ends up happening is we might have ideas,
right like, let's say I go up there and I
have this great idea for you know, a car that
doesn't emit any pollution. This is just an example. Well,
if you have someone up there that doesn't like your idea,
even if it's at a lower level, They're going to
kill that before it even has a chance to survive.
And that's ultimately what we're seeing happening, not just from
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a policy perspective, but from a justice perspective. And I
believe that this country is worth saving and we cannot
continue down this path. But what I have seen from
an insider perspective now, just in the last couple of
months has really opened eyes and shown me that we
need a lot more people, a lot more good people involved,
because right now we're really fighting with one hand behind
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our back. An you brought it up that would you
would vote for Trump in this primary? So I want
to come back to I want to ask you why.
I'm very curious one of your I think everybody else
that curious too. So we'll come and I just just
put that out there. I want to know what you
what you're reasoning is. We'll come back to that in
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your husband's Special Forces veteran, and you yourself or an
Air Force veteran. So does it, ever, does it feel
like we've moved on a little bit too quickly here
past what a lot of our men and women in
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uniform had to do to serve our country overseas. It
feels like we don't hear as much about it these days. Now.
In fact, this is again some i'd blowing stuff I've
actually witnessed as an insider now, is that if you
are a conservative and a Republican that that doesn't matter.
There is no respect level for serving your country. And
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in fact, I'm actually conducting an investigation right now with
House Oversight looking into how it was that the Air
Force managed to release the private documents health information, social
security numbers, and entire unredacted service records of sitting members
of Congress as well as candidates that were running for
office in the twenty twenty two election cycle. And so
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I figured that the Air Force would probably not playball,
especially being that we have Lloyd Austin right now that's
in charge of everything. And so two days after I
sent my request to the Air Force, I actually also
decided to work with Judicial Watch Tafoya Information, And of
course last week we got a response from the Air
Force basically telling us to go pounce in and that
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they would cooperate with our inquiry. And so it doesn't matter,
We're going to get the information anyways, But there is
a lack of respect for service in Washington, and unless
you're really a warhawk, I think that they try to
suppress your voice. And it's interesting because most people that
see war and long term inputs of that, I don't
think that they would advocate for the way that some
of these people do in Washington, DC. And so I
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actually recently got on board with Representative Gates and a
few others, and surprisingly a quarter of Congress actually voted
to actually withdraw from Syria. And so you're starting to
see I think that be more of a popular perspective
and that we don't want endless wars, especially in this
generation and this Congress. But it's still going to take
a lot more pole that I think have the ability
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to have a voice and aren't afraid of the military
industrial complex. Somebody who's definitely not afraid of the military
industrial complex is former President Donald Trump. And you have
already said, you've said it here on the podcast, that
he is your guy. You'll support another Republican if the
Republican is up against a Democrat, but he is your
guy for this twenty twenty four election from the GOP side.
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Why you know, what I've learned as a candidate running
for office and now as a member is that when
people are worried about being elected again, sometimes it ultimately
prevents them from being as effective as they could be
if they weren't concerned about that. And I feel like
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right now, from a international perspective, the United States is
not respected. We have a lot of stuff happening, not
just with our oil and gas industry, but from a
perspective of Russia is aligning with China, who's aligned with Iran,
and they don't respect us, and they don't respect us
because of our leadership. And I want someone that from
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an economic and policy perspective, can run this country how
it should be run and get us back to not
only being a world superpower, but a world superpower that's
respected and that doesn't necessarily have World War three knocking
at our front door as it is right now. And
So when I look at the field of candidates and
I look at who can actually make those decisions, who's
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unconcerned about seeking a second term in presidency, I think
that that's President Trump. Penny he's elected, he will be
probably one of the most effective presidents because of the
fact that he's not worried about that second term in office,
and I think that that's what we need right now.
And also too, I mean, I think it's a pretty good,
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pretty good thing to say that when you have the
entire Washington establishment against you and you're fighting for the
American people, that's who I want representing me. I don't
want someone that's going to be basically bought and paid
for by special interest. And now something else. I wanted
to switch gears a little bit. I know you have
an interest you mentioned reigning in big tech, which is
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which is essential. I keep telling people if big tech
is able to collude with the federal government, with the
with the Democrat apparatus within the federal government and the
cabal at place like DJ you can talk about you know,
mail in ballots and a lot of other things, but
we might lose anyway because the power that they have
to move the narrative and to create perception. There has
never been in the history of the planet a more
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powerful propaganda machine than big tech. I think that's very clear.
But as artificial intelligence may take this to another level.
And I wanted you to speak about what you see
on the horizon because I know you're looking at this
as a former member of the Air Force and as
the United States congressman right now? Congresswoman by the way,
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just quick question, QUI quick question? Or is that a
thing like are we supposed to say congressman congresswoman? Or
do people just say, I know, you can just be
a member of Congress, but are we supposed to gender
or is it like, you know, actor Now, I know
it sounds crazy, but you're not supposed to say actress.
Everyone's just an actor. They just use the term actor.
They don't want that chriss. So do we still we
still go with congressman congresswoman? Right? Who usually do? I
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usually actually prefer representative just because I feel like it's
more approachable, like repolunas like usually what I respond to.
But you know, I'm really used to I think this
is probably an air force in me. When I was
in the Air Force, I just went by airmen, you
know whatever. And so when people call me congressman, I
don't get offended or you know, member of Congress. You know,
I just I respond to as is. But it is
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really interesting that a lot of the people that use
pronouns in Washington and their you know, email bios still
go by Congresswoman. So yes, it is interesting. Indeed, all right,
so back to back to this, so big tech is
the most effective propaganda machine ever built. We agree on
that AI may do something even beyond what we've seen.
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What could that be? AI is scary, you know. I've
had this debate because we actually just had a hearing
with actually the founder and engineer in Google came in
and testified to one of the subcommittees. An oversight that
I'm on and what scares me about AI is that
it really has the ability to make us obsolete. And
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what stops a machine something that can't learn empathy, that
doesn't really have the human perspective, doesn't have a spirit,
and cannot really truly understand the spiritual aspect of like
what is right and what is wrong? From thinking that
humans are basically a parasite to Earth and destroying us all.
And that's really what I'm concerned about. You have countries
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like Iran, China, Russia that could weaponize this or terrorists,
let's say, there's crazy people out there, and so I
think it can be both good and bad, but it's
definitely something that I didn't want to have to deal
with in my generation, but I think that we're going
to and so I think that we have to be
very careful with it. There's an aspect of national security
that goes along with it and an aspect of human
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survival that I think a lot of people aren't mentioning,
and so it's going to be interesting to see how
it plays out. But AI will have the opera. It's
really going to make I think many jobs that we
have that humans participate, whether you're a doctor, whether you
are a mathematician, whether you're engineer, architect, it's it's going
to make those jobs obsolete. And so it'll be interesting
to see how society changes as a whole as we
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move forward with this evolution of AI and how it's
going to really, I think impact US long term as
a culture, not just from the United States perspective, but
I think from around the world. I should have asked
us when we're talking about the big tech side of it,
But just a circle back to that before maybe ask
another AI question, TikTok should it be banned by the
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federal government? And then Comma, where am I going to
find out the best way to see a wag? You
steake and meltwall grow on top of it at the
same time. So I did. I did co sponsor a
bill to actually band TikTok, and I did that because
TikTok is probably the biggest intelligence gathering operation for the CCP,
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not just that, I mean it's literally brainwashing our kids.
When you look at actually what China's showing their youth
on their version of TikTok versus what they show our
youth here, I mean you have literally women twerking and
you know, not all of its steaks. But when you
ask young people what the number one job is they
want to have when they grow up, they say influencer.
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In China, it's astronaut. And that's because of what they
actually show their people. Now, I'm not advocating for China
censorship because that's what it is. But they have specifically
engineered TikTok to target young people with an effort to brainwash.
And then they also found that on TikTok they actually
will artificially inflate the algorithms of certain inciniary content to
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make political parties fight. So you know, you have this
app that's gone viral that's intentionally being use against the
American people using our own First Amendment against us. And
back to what you said about reigning in big tech
and really being a massive propaganda machine. I mean, you're
absolutely right. When they looked at you know a lot
of people were saying, oh, the mid terms weren't as successful,
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why was it in there? You know, sideline quarterbacking. Everything
that happened one you had the maps aspects, so certain
states got obliterated by the activists attorneys that were set
up by some of these left leaning nonprofits to fight
on the constitutional redistricting. But then you had literally young
people gen z showed out and drugs outpaced baby boomers
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and actually voted for these left wing politicians and Biden.
A lot of the reason was because it was what
they saw on their phones, and so what they saw
in these apps, whether it was Facebook, TikTok, Twitter, That targeting,
which can be done literally down to a science, is
what they're doing to young people. And so that's why
I tell people all the time. You know, especially some
of the older representatives. I'm saying you don't understand, but
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you know your kids, your grandkids are on this, and
this is basically how we're getting all of our information.
We don't read the newspaper, we don't watch television, we
don't read the radio, or we don't listen to the radio.
This is one hundred percent of digital age. And so
getting them to understand that has been something that everyone's
starting to come on board with now and realize how
much of a threat it is. So what's top of
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the agenda for you from now until the end of
the year. What are you focused in on? By the way,
just give you something easy to close us up here?
Do you just tell us you know what or to
close us out rather tell us you know what? Are
you trying to get done personally, professionally, anything, you just
you take it. Yeah. Number one is the debt ceiling,
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So we're working on that now. Number two would be
I actually just sponsored or I just wrote a bipartisan
bill that we got a few Democrats to co sponsor,
working with Republicans to actually prevent sexual assault in the military.
And so we think that that's actually going to pass
and it would do something this is so much common sense,
but it would actually require service member to do one
day out of the month during the time that they
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would do pet combatives training for self defense and so
you'll be surprised to learn that not all branches do that.
You might if you're in the Marine Corps, but I
definitely did see in the Air Force and other branches
as well don't necessarily have that combatives training. So it's
it's multifaceted. It helps a service member both men and women,
but then it also too prepares permission readiness. And then
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number three would be I'm trying to find a chocolate
Miran chicken because I obviously, as you might have seen
all my social media have chickens and they lay eggs,
and these chocolate Mirans have their chocolate covered eggs, and
they're hard to find, their considered designer chickens, and so
I'm looking for one. Oh who WHOA. You can't just
you can't just like sprinkle this in at the end
and think that I'm just gonna let you. I know
you're busy, Rep. Luna, But first of all, you have chickens.
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I did not know this. Second of all, your chickens
lay chocolate eggs. You gotta tell everyone, so every type.
So I have three chickens, but the different breeds of
chickens will lay different colored eggs. So right now, with
the chickens that I have. I have two Easter eggers,
one of which lays a bluish colored egg, and then
I have a black Rock, which lays a brown egg.
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And then they have these breed of chickens called Chocolate
Moranes that lay a very dark like Hershey chocolate colored egg.
And so when you actually go and collect your eggs
in the morning, which we do every morning, we have
this great array, an assortment of eggs. It literally looks
like Easter eggs, Okay, like they're all different colors. And
so I've been looking for one of these chickens for
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like six months, but they're so hard to find because
they're like a designer chicken now in the egg community,
and so I'm trying to find one. So if you know,
but let me know, by the way, this is probably
a great side hustle because if you were to just
like have Eddy your husband go out and sell eggs,
are like they're like one hundred dollars eats. They're like
Faberge eggs. Now they've gotten really expensive Arganic. Yeah, I'm
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sure they're free range, are the See I've actually thought
about this now I'm still in apartment, but the wife
wants me to get a house, and we're talking. I've said, fine, honey,
because happy wife, happy life turns out very true. I
have found out by the keep her happy all the time.
So we're gonna get a house at some point, and
I would love, you know, with a yard and grass
and so then chickens would be a thing that we
could do. How much work are they? And then also
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do you feel like the chickens? So I had a
pet bird for a little while growing up, and I
always tell people listen, it's like birds are weirdly smart
and when you spend time around them, they absolutely recognize
different people. They have people, they like, people they don't like,
they show affection whatever. But that was like a little
parrot based it was actually a cocateal. Do you like
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do the birds? Do the chickens are? They're like, oh
what's up? Rep? Luna? Like good to see? Or does
it not matter? Do you know what I mean? No,
they have personalities for sure. They are actually surprisingly easy.
So I have a gravity feeder, which means I fell
at my feeder about once every three weeks, and then
they like literally will go down and so they're self sufficient.
I have an outdoor coop. I have a door on
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the coop that opens when the sun right and closes
when the sun sets, and they literally debug my garden.
I mean like they are the easiest things. And they
just rum around our front yard and our backyard because
we cut a little hole in the fence. So it's
funny because I'll see like my post office guy or
the Amazon delivery people, and they're used to the chickens now,
but they can leave the gate open. They stay in
the front yard. They're literally the easiest thing. And then
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we have a water feeder that basically feeds them themselves,
so they are the easiest things on earth. That's why
I tell people buy chickens, so much more easier to
get your eggs their organic, free range. And then also too,
I get a weird sense of pride when I go
to the grocery store and I see eggs are like
ten bucks and you can just go home and get
them from my chickens. I know what your answer is
going to be, but I just have to get you
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on the record for this. If I gave you one
of your you know, blindfolded obviously right blindfold to tape,
if I gave you one of your chocolate blue or
whatever fancy eggs. And I just gave you, like an
egg that you'd get from one of those kind of
depressing styrofoam containers at a gas station somewhere. Could you
tell the difference? Yes? And this happened to me in Washington.
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I was downstairs in the chow that's not a chowld,
the cafeteria of the Capital, and I went and gotten
about four hard boiled eggs, and I went up to
my office to taste them, and they taste like absolute garbage.
Like I can tell the difference. The yolks are actually
a lot darker and the shells are actually a lot harder.
So whenever I go out now, I can actually tell them.
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Like I don't even eat eggs when i'm out. I
just wait till i'm home. Wait, do you is dark
yolk better quality egg or lesser better quality? No, it's
better quality. Yeah, you'll actually see two. Like you can
tell what the chickens diet was. If they're free range
and they're eating literally as scavengers, which is what they're
supposed to do anyways, and they're not eating feed, they're
yolks will actually be darker our chickens literally ate everything though.
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The lizards, they bugs. I feed them scraps from I
mean like they love cheese. I feed them scraps from
my salads. I mean they are just they're very well filled.
The chicken. They love watermelon. It's great. You do not
have a rooster, so you do not have the cockadoo
loo in the morning, right, that doesn't happen to correct,
But they are the one thing. No, yeah, I have
no roosters. They're fairly quiet. The one issue I am
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having those they keep trying to eat my dog's dog food.
So they'll sneak in the back and then try to
get into some. I'm like, what do you guys do
they love his dog? They like they like his dog food.
Fair enough. Interesting, I gotta tell the wife brothers, we
gotta get some chickens. Representative Luna Anna paulina Um always
great to have you. Thanks for hanging out with us,
and well we got to check back in on how
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this is all going, you know, save the country from
the debt bomb that it is inflicting on itself. So
come back and talk to us for it, all right,
that's thanks. Fun
Welcome everybody to the Buck Sexton Show. On this episode,
Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, which is so fun to say
because I knew her when she was just Anna Paulina,
a friend of mine for years, and now she is
a member of United States Congress. She's also a veteran
and somebody who's got a whole range of things to
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talk to us about today, Anna Paulina, Great to have
you on the program, Very exciting, very happy to be back. Buck.
So I don't want to start with this. There's a
lot of big issues. We got to save America. It's
keeping me busy, keeping you busy different ways, but we're
rowing the boat in the same directions. How's being in Congress?
You know, this is funny because really you're like a
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peer of mine that I knew outside. And there were
a whole bunch of friends of mine who ran in
this last cycle. By the way, you were one. I
think I had about six or seven friends running for Congress.
You're the only one who won. So thank you, well done.
And what's it like? It's been a pretty crazy learning experience.
What I keep what really blows my mind is how
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time works in Washington. So I've only been in for
a little over two months now, maybe going on three months,
But the craziest thing is that I feel like I've
already been there for like ten years. And then when
I go up to Washington, you know, you live your
life in fifteen minute increments, whether it's meetings, whether it's
running in between committees, hearings, testifying, all of that, and
so it's a huge learning curve. But really everything that
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I thought going into this, you know, one of my
biggest goals for why I wanted to run is I
really wanted to help change the national discussion on issues
and how to fix these problems. And as a member
of Congress, you know, my hunch was correct. Now when
I send out press releases, when I'm debating on the
House floor, when I'm talking in committee, the press picks
up on that, and it really does contribute to not
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only educating the American people, but also to solving some
of these problems. So it's been a really rewarding experience.
It's a ton of work. I definitely am not going
to be doing it forever, but I don't ever anticipate
or take it for granted that I'm just going to
get reelected. So I'm making account while I'm there, and
I'm very honored to represent Florida's thirteenth congressional district. So,
know what do people who who were paying very close
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attention to the rebels. I don't know if you guys
ever had an official an official name, but the rebels
pretty good, right, you know, insurgence makes people think of
something else, So I think rebels is probably pretty pretty good.
But you guys didn't just go along with the McCarthy speakership.
You there was wrangling for a few days. I remember saying.
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I was like, Yeah, isn't this what is supposed to
happen in Congress? What do people need to know about?
What really came out of that? What happened? So there
was the speakers fight, McCarthy became the speaker, but some stuff,
some concessions were made. What do people need to know? Well, also,
some of the biggest concessions were actually already seeing it
play out. And really this was when I tell people,
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it's like if you have an argument with your brother
or sister, right like, sometimes it's really good to just
clear the air. You guys come to an agreement, and
then you move forward and as a result of that,
I mean, not only did other members in our Republican
delegation actually see what we were negotiating, and actually during
that entire time, through all fifteen rounds, we're pulling us
aside and saying like, look, we really appreciate what you're doing,
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we support it. We don't really want to say anything
because we don't want to get in trouble necessarily, But ultimately,
as a result of that, the entire conference feels a
lot more united. But one of the biggest things that
we did was we set the bar and negotiating platform
for whether or not we were going to be raising
the debt ceiling. We set the terms and conditions for
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ultimately getting rid of the consolidation of power that existed
in the House. So under Nancy Pelosi, she got rid
of an accountability mechanism called the motion to vacate the chair,
which means that if you have a Speaker of the
House and they go back on their promise to the
delegation and to the American people on what their goals
and objectives are for the country, you can actually do
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something called vacating the chair. And it was actually put
in place by Thomas Jefferson, which stood for over two
hundred years, and of course Pelosi got the gabble and
she basically ran it like she was basically the Supreme Chancellor.
I mean, there was no voices for the representatives. We
couldn't bring amendments to the floor. You had the Rules
Committee that a lot of people might not realize, but
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it's a small group of elected representatives. A lot of
them were moderates. And so when people want to know,
you know, why was it in twenty sixteen when President
Trump had the White House, the Congress, and Senate, why
couldn't he pass certain legislation, Well, it's because the Rules
Committee killed that legislation. And so we actually fought to
get conservatives people that actually have, in my opinion, being
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a conservative, better approaches not just to fiscal responsibility, but
also to to backing the constitution. Get these conservatives in
positions where they can have a voice, whether it is
on appropriation with the budget plan, whether it is on
the rules Committee, so that we can bring rules to
the floor. And then obviously one of my favorite is
I ran on term limits and we actually have an
agreement to bring a bill to the floor to vote
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on whether or not. We were going to pass term
limits in the House, and so you will be able
to see exactly what members of Congress are for and
against term limits, which is something we really need in
this country. The dead ceiling fight that looms, is it
going to be a real fight? And do you think
we could actually get something out of it? Yeah, we
will be getting something out of it. And I say
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that I was actually just at an event with Representative
Jim Jordan and Chairman Scott Perry of the Freedom Caucus
and we actually, as a Freedom Caucus adopted an official
position and put it out for everyone to see. So
if you really want to look into that, you can
head over to the Freedom Caucus website and check it out.
And not even two hours after we did that press conference,
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you had the Biden White House saying that MAGA extremists
were basically trying to shut down the country, which is
not true. All we're simply saying is we're not going
to continue down this path of reckless spending. We know
the Biden budget, which he's not going to get, by
the way, wanted to increase by trillions of dollars, and
we're saying, hey, COVID is no more. Why are we
still operating in pandemic level spendings when it's been declared
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not even a national emergency anymore. So we're going to
go back to or attempt to go back to twenty
nineteen fiscal spending, and then we are going to do
something called recisions, which is a mechanism that Congress has
to actually claw back some of the money that was
already allocated to be spent for a lot of these
woke programs, and we're actually going to bring that back. So, like,
even if we don't raise the debt ceiling and just
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operate as is, what ends up happening is that's gonna
be the first time and I'd say over a decade
that we haven't raised the debt ceiling, and in my opinion,
we shouldn't be raising it. You know, at some point
someone's going to have to pay for this. And I
hate to bring up what happened with SVB Bank, but
that's a bailout. You know, a lot of people don't
want to call it that, but it is, and we're
going to be the ones paying for it. So conservatives
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are being branded as you know, kind of the leper,
the lepers in Washington because we don't want to, you know,
just cave roll over and state we'll deal with it later.
We're going to handle it now. And I think that
we'll actually get something done this cycle. So remember we
have those twenty names, and those twenty names aren't playing,
you know, you Chip Roy Massey. I mean, some of
the names that have been involved so far, it makes
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me think these are people who are going to see
this through. Yes, and yeah, I think I think that's
one lesson that people should take from all this. But
what does victory in a debt ceiling fight look given
the realities of where we are, you know, politically, what
does victory in the debt ceiling fight this year look like?
Meaning best possible? I'm not saying what will happen? What
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is best possible scenario? From a conservative perspective, I'd say
best possible is, if possible, not raising the debt ceiling,
going back to pre pandemic level spending, and then recisions.
Recisions are important because when you have the administration and
really what they did with the Omnibus, which let's be
clear that was completely wrong. They should have not done that,
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and really we were stabbed in literally not even the back,
but in the front by you know, Mitch McConnell in
regards to that. But with a lot of what we're
seeing happening is, you know, we need to be able
to take that back and a lot of these programs,
you have pots of money that are basically sitting in
different programs, different places around the country that are untouched.
And yet you have different entities of the federal government
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that are saying that they can't operate if we don't
continue to raise it, when again, we're out of a pandemic.
So we need to seriously look at this. I frankly
don't care if people don't like me for saying this,
but like you would never operate your own bank account
the way that some of these representatives operate the federal
government's budget, And so I think that that's important to
note that you have people up there that are basically
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spending I don't know if they don't realize that if
you spend recklessly, it leads to inflation and it's going
to tank our country. But every single you know, major
empire has failed because of what we're seeing happening now,
and so it would be stupid to continue down the
same path. Of doing the same thing over and over again.
I want to ask me come back in a second.
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could do, like the kind of things that they should
be saying they will do if all goes according to
plan for twenty twenty four, what are they give me?
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One or two? Number one that's very realistic that we're
already starting to see movement on is decoupling from China.
So I'll give you an example. We basically one of
the committees that I'm on, I'm on Oversight, which conducts
the investigations, and then Natural Resources, which handles a lot
of our American energy independence and the natural resources here
in this country. But you know, we passed an amendment
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to really prevent any company that is engaged in illegal
mining operations or human rights abuses and other parts of
the world to actually be able to mine here in
the United States. So China has a lot of these
companies and then they work with American based companies and yet,
for example, their cobalt mines in the Congo. You actually
have young people that sometimes youngest two years old up
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to seventeen, that they're drugging, starving, and basically operating slave minds,
and then we buy it here and consume that here
in the United States. So I think from a humanitarian
perspective and American abundance for energy, really allowing that that
angle to operate here at home is the best right.
Even if you look at it from a climate change perspective,
China is destroying the environment, and so I've actually gotten
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to a few of these debates on natural resources. Even
if you're talking from that perspective. Let's say you believe
in climate change, Well, China's destroy the environment, so why
wouldn't we do it here at home? And so I
think that d couple, whether it's from a production perspective
or from just a human rights perspective, I think that
that's going to start to happen. And then my number
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one thing that I've been talking about for years and
I still think is probably single handedly the most important
thing that we can do as a country is really
to break up big tech. And so, as I'm sure
you saw with that oversight hearing where I had Yo
Roth from Twitter in there and we were questioning them
about Kia and how they were illegally coordinating with the
Department of Homeland Security and these outside organizations to censor
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the American people. You know that should never happen. But
realize that these companies, being as powerful as they are,
they are still actively engaged in suppression and they are
really tilting the balance in regards to some of these elections,
even with information just for presidential cycles. And so we
have to break that up. That's kind of our new fight.
That's going to be our generation's version of the Alama.
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And so I'm peer for it. I'm leading it. I
think right you're yelling, yelling for the rampart, You're you're
throwing down over this. You're not You're not just You're
not just president. You are you are storming the barricades.
Um Actually want to ask you also about because you mentioned,
you know, China and foreign influence and all the rest
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of it, does anything actually happen to any of the
Biden family members with all the CCP money that's come in,
all the COMI cash from Beijing that's been floated into
the coffers of the Biden family, do you think anything
really happens You're on House oversight. So we just last week,
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we just received information in regards to this is from
the Treasury, So it's not just from a random sources
from the actual Treasury that showed that the Biden and
the Biden family was receiving wire transfers from the CCP
into the millions of dollars within months of him leaving
office as Vice president. And then from the administration's perspective,
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we see this massive soft on China approach where they
are literally coddling the CCP. So you cannot tell me
that this administration, that this president is not compromised, but
in my opinion, the Justice Department is compromised. And so
what ends up happening is where they would typically bring
investigations forward, where you would typically have that accountability accountability mechanism.
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Right now, I don't think that that really exists. Like
if that was like that was me, for example, and
my husband was receiving wire transfers from the CCP, like
I'd probably be in jail, I wouldn't be able to
hold office. And so the fact is is that it's wrong.
What's happening. We have something that we also negotiated in
the Speakers debate known as the hallam And rule, and
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that can defund any federal position and basically remove the job.
We actually put it in place because of what happened
with doctor Fauci and the fact that he was obviously
not working in the best interests of the American people
during Code Response. But I believe that we can use
that position as well for you know, the DJ if
they're not going to do their jobs, and these people
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that are corrupt, why should we be paying them. That's
kind of that accountability mechanism that Congress has. We have
the purse strings, right, and so that's what we're going
to try to use. But it's really upsetting sometimes, especially
as a member of Congress, because you realize that as
a Republican, as a conservative, even when we take back
the White House and the Senate, that the corruption and
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bureaucracy in Washington, DC it's there. And that's why I
encourage people if you are looking to get involved in politics,
if you're really just tired of seeing what's happening, get
go to DC, like be the new blood that we
need there because people get entrenched and really a member,
you know, whether you're in Senate, whether you're in Congress.
Even a president, it's still a term. You have to
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get reelected. But these bureaucrats stay there for decades and
so they're the ones that have the consolidation of power
that I think are responsible for. This is the swamp drainable.
It is, but it's going to take more people getting involved.
You know, a lot of people say, well, I'm going
to do it by running for Congress. I'm going to
do it by running for exenate. That is only one part.
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We actually have to have good people up there that
are pushing in new blood, whether it's you know, and
this is the one thing I will say, whoever the
next president is, which I've already publicly pledge my support
for President Trump, but either which way, we need people
from outside Washington to be appointed to some of the
positions because it has become so bad up there right
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now that what ends up happening is we might have ideas,
right like, let's say I go up there and I
have this great idea for you know, a car that
doesn't emit any pollution. This is just an example. Well,
if you have someone up there that doesn't like your idea,
even if it's at a lower level, They're going to
kill that before it even has a chance to survive.
And that's ultimately what we're seeing happening, not just from
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a policy perspective, but from a justice perspective. And I
believe that this country is worth saving and we cannot
continue down this path. But what I have seen from
an insider perspective now, just in the last couple of
months has really opened eyes and shown me that we
need a lot more people, a lot more good people involved,
because right now we're really fighting with one hand behind
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our back. An you brought it up that would you
would vote for Trump in this primary? So I want
to come back to I want to ask you why.
I'm very curious one of your I think everybody else
that curious too. So we'll come and I just just
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your husband's Special Forces veteran, and you yourself or an
Air Force veteran. So does it, ever, does it feel
like we've moved on a little bit too quickly here
past what a lot of our men and women in
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uniform had to do to serve our country overseas. It
feels like we don't hear as much about it these days. Now.
In fact, this is again some i'd blowing stuff I've
actually witnessed as an insider now, is that if you
are a conservative and a Republican that that doesn't matter.
There is no respect level for serving your country. And
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in fact, I'm actually conducting an investigation right now with
House Oversight looking into how it was that the Air
Force managed to release the private documents health information, social
security numbers, and entire unredacted service records of sitting members
of Congress as well as candidates that were running for
office in the twenty twenty two election cycle. And so
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I figured that the Air Force would probably not playball,
especially being that we have Lloyd Austin right now that's
in charge of everything. And so two days after I
sent my request to the Air Force, I actually also
decided to work with Judicial Watch Tafoya Information, And of
course last week we got a response from the Air
Force basically telling us to go pounce in and that
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they would cooperate with our inquiry. And so it doesn't matter,
We're going to get the information anyways, But there is
a lack of respect for service in Washington, and unless
you're really a warhawk, I think that they try to
suppress your voice. And it's interesting because most people that
see war and long term inputs of that, I don't
think that they would advocate for the way that some
of these people do in Washington, DC. And so I
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actually recently got on board with Representative Gates and a
few others, and surprisingly a quarter of Congress actually voted
to actually withdraw from Syria. And so you're starting to
see I think that be more of a popular perspective
and that we don't want endless wars, especially in this
generation and this Congress. But it's still going to take
a lot more pole that I think have the ability
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to have a voice and aren't afraid of the military
industrial complex. Somebody who's definitely not afraid of the military
industrial complex is former President Donald Trump. And you have
already said, you've said it here on the podcast, that
he is your guy. You'll support another Republican if the
Republican is up against a Democrat, but he is your
guy for this twenty twenty four election from the GOP side.
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Why you know, what I've learned as a candidate running
for office and now as a member is that when
people are worried about being elected again, sometimes it ultimately
prevents them from being as effective as they could be
if they weren't concerned about that. And I feel like
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right now, from a international perspective, the United States is
not respected. We have a lot of stuff happening, not
just with our oil and gas industry, but from a
perspective of Russia is aligning with China, who's aligned with Iran,
and they don't respect us, and they don't respect us
because of our leadership. And I want someone that from
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an economic and policy perspective, can run this country how
it should be run and get us back to not
only being a world superpower, but a world superpower that's
respected and that doesn't necessarily have World War three knocking
at our front door as it is right now. And
So when I look at the field of candidates and
I look at who can actually make those decisions, who's
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unconcerned about seeking a second term in presidency, I think
that that's President Trump. Penny he's elected, he will be
probably one of the most effective presidents because of the
fact that he's not worried about that second term in office,
and I think that that's what we need right now.
And also too, I mean, I think it's a pretty good,
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pretty good thing to say that when you have the
entire Washington establishment against you and you're fighting for the
American people, that's who I want representing me. I don't
want someone that's going to be basically bought and paid
for by special interest. And now something else. I wanted
to switch gears a little bit. I know you have
an interest you mentioned reigning in big tech, which is
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which is essential. I keep telling people if big tech
is able to collude with the federal government, with the
with the Democrat apparatus within the federal government and the
cabal at place like DJ you can talk about you know,
mail in ballots and a lot of other things, but
we might lose anyway because the power that they have
to move the narrative and to create perception. There has
never been in the history of the planet a more
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powerful propaganda machine than big tech. I think that's very clear.
But as artificial intelligence may take this to another level.
And I wanted you to speak about what you see
on the horizon because I know you're looking at this
as a former member of the Air Force and as
the United States congressman right now? Congresswoman by the way,
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just quick question, QUI quick question? Or is that a
thing like are we supposed to say congressman congresswoman? Or
do people just say, I know, you can just be
a member of Congress, but are we supposed to gender
or is it like, you know, actor Now, I know
it sounds crazy, but you're not supposed to say actress.
Everyone's just an actor. They just use the term actor.
They don't want that chriss. So do we still we
still go with congressman congresswoman? Right? Who usually do? I
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usually actually prefer representative just because I feel like it's
more approachable, like repolunas like usually what I respond to.
But you know, I'm really used to I think this
is probably an air force in me. When I was
in the Air Force, I just went by airmen, you
know whatever. And so when people call me congressman, I
don't get offended or you know, member of Congress. You know,
I just I respond to as is. But it is
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really interesting that a lot of the people that use
pronouns in Washington and their you know, email bios still
go by Congresswoman. So yes, it is interesting. Indeed, all right,
so back to back to this, so big tech is
the most effective propaganda machine ever built. We agree on
that AI may do something even beyond what we've seen.
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What could that be? AI is scary, you know. I've
had this debate because we actually just had a hearing
with actually the founder and engineer in Google came in
and testified to one of the subcommittees. An oversight that
I'm on and what scares me about AI is that
it really has the ability to make us obsolete. And
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what stops a machine something that can't learn empathy, that
doesn't really have the human perspective, doesn't have a spirit,
and cannot really truly understand the spiritual aspect of like
what is right and what is wrong? From thinking that
humans are basically a parasite to Earth and destroying us all.
And that's really what I'm concerned about. You have countries
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like Iran, China, Russia that could weaponize this or terrorists,
let's say, there's crazy people out there, and so I
think it can be both good and bad, but it's
definitely something that I didn't want to have to deal
with in my generation, but I think that we're going
to and so I think that we have to be
very careful with it. There's an aspect of national security
that goes along with it and an aspect of human
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survival that I think a lot of people aren't mentioning,
and so it's going to be interesting to see how
it plays out. But AI will have the opera. It's
really going to make I think many jobs that we
have that humans participate, whether you're a doctor, whether you
are a mathematician, whether you're engineer, architect, it's it's going
to make those jobs obsolete. And so it'll be interesting
to see how society changes as a whole as we
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move forward with this evolution of AI and how it's
going to really, I think impact US long term as
a culture, not just from the United States perspective, but
I think from around the world. I should have asked
us when we're talking about the big tech side of it,
But just a circle back to that before maybe ask
another AI question, TikTok should it be banned by the
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federal government? And then Comma, where am I going to
find out the best way to see a wag? You
steake and meltwall grow on top of it at the
same time. So I did. I did co sponsor a
bill to actually band TikTok, and I did that because
TikTok is probably the biggest intelligence gathering operation for the CCP,
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not just that, I mean it's literally brainwashing our kids.
When you look at actually what China's showing their youth
on their version of TikTok versus what they show our
youth here, I mean you have literally women twerking and
you know, not all of its steaks. But when you
ask young people what the number one job is they
want to have when they grow up, they say influencer.
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In China, it's astronaut. And that's because of what they
actually show their people. Now, I'm not advocating for China
censorship because that's what it is. But they have specifically
engineered TikTok to target young people with an effort to brainwash.
And then they also found that on TikTok they actually
will artificially inflate the algorithms of certain inciniary content to
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make political parties fight. So you know, you have this
app that's gone viral that's intentionally being use against the
American people using our own First Amendment against us. And
back to what you said about reigning in big tech
and really being a massive propaganda machine. I mean, you're
absolutely right. When they looked at you know a lot
of people were saying, oh, the mid terms weren't as successful,
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why was it in there? You know, sideline quarterbacking. Everything
that happened one you had the maps aspects, so certain
states got obliterated by the activists attorneys that were set
up by some of these left leaning nonprofits to fight
on the constitutional redistricting. But then you had literally young
people gen z showed out and drugs outpaced baby boomers
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and actually voted for these left wing politicians and Biden.
A lot of the reason was because it was what
they saw on their phones, and so what they saw
in these apps, whether it was Facebook, TikTok, Twitter, That targeting,
which can be done literally down to a science, is
what they're doing to young people. And so that's why
I tell people all the time. You know, especially some
of the older representatives. I'm saying you don't understand, but
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you know your kids, your grandkids are on this, and
this is basically how we're getting all of our information.
We don't read the newspaper, we don't watch television, we
don't read the radio, or we don't listen to the radio.
This is one hundred percent of digital age. And so
getting them to understand that has been something that everyone's
starting to come on board with now and realize how
much of a threat it is. So what's top of
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the agenda for you from now until the end of
the year. What are you focused in on? By the way,
just give you something easy to close us up here?
Do you just tell us you know what or to
close us out rather tell us you know what? Are
you trying to get done personally, professionally, anything, you just
you take it. Yeah. Number one is the debt ceiling,
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So we're working on that now. Number two would be
I actually just sponsored or I just wrote a bipartisan
bill that we got a few Democrats to co sponsor,
working with Republicans to actually prevent sexual assault in the military.
And so we think that that's actually going to pass
and it would do something this is so much common sense,
but it would actually require service member to do one
day out of the month during the time that they
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would do pet combatives training for self defense and so
you'll be surprised to learn that not all branches do that.
You might if you're in the Marine Corps, but I
definitely did see in the Air Force and other branches
as well don't necessarily have that combatives training. So it's
it's multifaceted. It helps a service member both men and women,
but then it also too prepares permission readiness. And then
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number three would be I'm trying to find a chocolate
Miran chicken because I obviously, as you might have seen
all my social media have chickens and they lay eggs,
and these chocolate Mirans have their chocolate covered eggs, and
they're hard to find, their considered designer chickens, and so
I'm looking for one. Oh who WHOA. You can't just
you can't just like sprinkle this in at the end
and think that I'm just gonna let you. I know
you're busy, Rep. Luna, But first of all, you have chickens.
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I did not know this. Second of all, your chickens
lay chocolate eggs. You gotta tell everyone, so every type.
So I have three chickens, but the different breeds of
chickens will lay different colored eggs. So right now, with
the chickens that I have. I have two Easter eggers,
one of which lays a bluish colored egg, and then
I have a black Rock, which lays a brown egg.
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And then they have these breed of chickens called Chocolate
Moranes that lay a very dark like Hershey chocolate colored egg.
And so when you actually go and collect your eggs
in the morning, which we do every morning, we have
this great array, an assortment of eggs. It literally looks
like Easter eggs, Okay, like they're all different colors. And
so I've been looking for one of these chickens for
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like six months, but they're so hard to find because
they're like a designer chicken now in the egg community,
and so I'm trying to find one. So if you know,
but let me know, by the way, this is probably
a great side hustle because if you were to just
like have Eddy your husband go out and sell eggs,
are like they're like one hundred dollars eats. They're like
Faberge eggs. Now they've gotten really expensive Arganic. Yeah, I'm
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sure they're free range, are the See I've actually thought
about this now I'm still in apartment, but the wife
wants me to get a house, and we're talking. I've said, fine, honey,
because happy wife, happy life turns out very true. I
have found out by the keep her happy all the time.
So we're gonna get a house at some point, and
I would love, you know, with a yard and grass
and so then chickens would be a thing that we
could do. How much work are they? And then also
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do you feel like the chickens? So I had a
pet bird for a little while growing up, and I
always tell people listen, it's like birds are weirdly smart
and when you spend time around them, they absolutely recognize
different people. They have people, they like, people they don't like,
they show affection whatever. But that was like a little
parrot based it was actually a cocateal. Do you like
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do the birds? Do the chickens are? They're like, oh
what's up? Rep? Luna? Like good to see? Or does
it not matter? Do you know what I mean? No,
they have personalities for sure. They are actually surprisingly easy.
So I have a gravity feeder, which means I fell
at my feeder about once every three weeks, and then
they like literally will go down and so they're self sufficient.
I have an outdoor coop. I have a door on
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the coop that opens when the sun right and closes
when the sun sets, and they literally debug my garden.
I mean like they are the easiest things. And they
just rum around our front yard and our backyard because
we cut a little hole in the fence. So it's
funny because I'll see like my post office guy or
the Amazon delivery people, and they're used to the chickens now,
but they can leave the gate open. They stay in
the front yard. They're literally the easiest thing. And then
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we have a water feeder that basically feeds them themselves,
so they are the easiest things on earth. That's why
I tell people buy chickens, so much more easier to
get your eggs their organic, free range. And then also too,
I get a weird sense of pride when I go
to the grocery store and I see eggs are like
ten bucks and you can just go home and get
them from my chickens. I know what your answer is
going to be, but I just have to get you
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on the record for this. If I gave you one
of your you know, blindfolded obviously right blindfold to tape,
if I gave you one of your chocolate blue or
whatever fancy eggs. And I just gave you, like an
egg that you'd get from one of those kind of
depressing styrofoam containers at a gas station somewhere. Could you
tell the difference? Yes? And this happened to me in Washington.
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I was downstairs in the chow that's not a chowld,
the cafeteria of the Capital, and I went and gotten
about four hard boiled eggs, and I went up to
my office to taste them, and they taste like absolute garbage.
Like I can tell the difference. The yolks are actually
a lot darker and the shells are actually a lot harder.
So whenever I go out now, I can actually tell them.
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Like I don't even eat eggs when i'm out. I
just wait till i'm home. Wait, do you is dark
yolk better quality egg or lesser better quality? No, it's
better quality. Yeah, you'll actually see two. Like you can
tell what the chickens diet was. If they're free range
and they're eating literally as scavengers, which is what they're
supposed to do anyways, and they're not eating feed, they're
yolks will actually be darker our chickens literally ate everything though.
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The lizards, they bugs. I feed them scraps from I
mean like they love cheese. I feed them scraps from
my salads. I mean they are just they're very well filled.
The chicken. They love watermelon. It's great. You do not
have a rooster, so you do not have the cockadoo
loo in the morning, right, that doesn't happen to correct,
But they are the one thing. No, yeah, I have
no roosters. They're fairly quiet. The one issue I am
(35:08):
having those they keep trying to eat my dog's dog food.
So they'll sneak in the back and then try to
get into some. I'm like, what do you guys do
they love his dog? They like they like his dog food.
Fair enough. Interesting, I gotta tell the wife brothers, we
gotta get some chickens. Representative Luna Anna paulina Um always
great to have you. Thanks for hanging out with us,
and well we got to check back in on how
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this is all going, you know, save the country from
the debt bomb that it is inflicting on itself. So
come back and talk to us for it, all right,
that's thanks. Fun
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