September 7, 2021 • 37 mins
It's worse than a year ago: This Labor Day weekend, we have twice as many people hospitalized from covid compared to 2020. How is that possible with a vaccine? Fauci funded the creation of covid and then lied about it under oath. Rolling Stone runs fake ivermectin story, Twitter does nothing. Liberal media knows it's a lie and still runs the story, because they know they can get away with it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in. I am Clay Travis,
he is Buck Sexton. This is the Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show and we have got a lot of
different stories to get into. We hope you had a
fantastic Labor Day weekend. Encourage you to go download podcast.
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You can search out my name. Show is so popular.
Now Buck, you type end Clay a type end Buck
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Buck has a show, We have surpassed them at the
minimum in terms of search requirements. But in all seriousness,
we appreciate all of you out there, all fifty States,
all of our affiliate stations as well. And I want
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to get into this rolling Stone ivermectin one hundred percent
why and how it exposes the hypocrisy of big tech.
But I want to hit you with a data point
that I think is significant that is not being discussed anywhere.
Joe By ran his entire campaign on the idea that
he was going to fix COVID. He hid in the basement,
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he wore the oversized mask. He used it as a
cudgel to attack Donald Trump all the time, The idea
that Trump was not taking COVID seriously enough, the idea
that Trump had mismanaged COVID. All of that was the
underlying theme and justification alongside of normalcy that Joe Biden
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based his entire presidential campaign upon. We are now coming
up on the fall now that we have passed the
Labor Day, and you can look at the data from
last fall a year ago, when Joe Biden was making
this argument all through Labor Day in September. Did you know,
Buck Sexton, that right now today as we speak, there
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are twice as many people hospitalized with COVID as on
Labor Day last year, when Joe Biden was saying that
President Trump was doing an awful job of handling COVID.
He owns COVID now and this failure, which would, honestly,
if Trump were still in office, that hospitalization data would
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be being used as continued failure of the Trump administration. Yet,
I bet a huge percentage of our audience right now
that's listening to us has no idea that compared to
last Labor Day, we have twice as many people hospitalized
right now with COVID as we did last year, And
how could that be? As we know the dominant lib
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journal media narrative is day in and day out, how
could the current surge not just in cases, but hospitalizations
be the fault the fault of the unvaccinated and it
exceeds where we were a year ago, remember right when
everyone was unvaccinated. When everybody was unvaccinated a year ago,
it's a great story. So how is it possible to
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blame those who have not been vaccinated when it's worse
some now with litizations than it was a year ago
when it was not possible to even be vaccinated. There
is obviously something else going on here, Clay, which is
why the questions about how does this end, what does
that look like, what do we have to do? How
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long do these vaccines really last? How well do they
really work? That's if we had an honest, not just journalistic,
but scientific community in this country. People are still so terrified.
We both know personally doctors who think that what's going
on with faucisum is madness, but they don't want to
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abandon all their patients and their career by being booted
out of their hospital and having their license suspended for
questioning Fauci. I mean this is this is like the
the flat eartherism of our current moment. Actually, it's not
people that are skeptical of vaccines, it's people who won't
allow there to be questions about vaccines. And what I
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would say too, Buck, I think you hit on it
well with the flat earth is M. We've talked about
the heliocentric vers versus geocentric theories to take people all
the way back to like sixth grade science. But the
essence of this and why it should be so offensive
to everyone out there, regardless of your political beliefs, is
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science is about rigorously questioning conventional wisdom. That's how we
get to legitimate ideas and new hypotheses and theories which
govern our existence. And yet, if you point out, wait
a minute, Israel right now is starting to discuss a
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fourth different COVID shot. They have already given everybody a
third COVID vaccine, they are now talking about a fourth.
Israeli data reflects that the number of people who are
testing positive for COVID continues to skyrocket in that country.
And if you ask, wait a minute. Is this really
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a vaccine? Is it a therapeutic? How is it that
we with all seventy five percent book of people eighteen
and up in this country have received at least one
COVID vaccine shot. How is it that we have twice
as many people hospitalized for COVID this year as we
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did at the exact same time last year, when no
one had the opportunity to be vaccinated. Yet, how is
it the Biden administration gets away day in and day
out with not addressing this in any way other than
just to say we need everyone to get vaccinated. Well,
clearly that does not end this thing. That's because you
have a lot of people who are vaccinated who are
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still getting COVID and I know that they say, oh,
it protects from severe disease. Okay, how long does it
if the vaccine wanes in effectiveness? Right? The assumption here
could be all right, maybe you have you have enough
antibodies that you're more likely than not going to survive.
But does that also remember originally it was you won't
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get you're basically not going to get COVID. Rochelle will
Lenski of the CDC, the director said, you don't get it,
you don't spread it. Get the vaccine. That was the pitch.
Now you definitely yet can get it, right, I mean,
maybe it's a little less like hospitalized with it. I
mean there's still I mean, look, I mean it's not
as if your chances of ever dying of COVID go
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away when you get this vaccine. You can still die
of COVID. And we're looking now at a situation where
I think Clay, they don't want to do the real analysis.
They don't want to actually look at natural immunity because
we could be heading toward a point where it's just
everyone's basically gonna get COVID. And the way that this
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actually not goes away entirely but gets under control is
when enough people have natural immunity, more so even than vaccinity.
Me didn't. No, I'm not saying we're there yet, but
that's clearly in the background here. And when you're talking
about getting a third, fourth shot. Now, all the questions
about all right, well, what are the side effects and
what percentage of people have them and how much is
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too much and what does it do? I mean, as
a simple function of math, if one in one hundred
thousand people have a really bad reaction to a shot
if everyone has to get it every year, that you know,
the math starts to add up very quickly to what's
really the benefit of this, especially if it starts to
the protection of it goes away very quickly. But then
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there's also speaking of the science, Clay, I know we've
talked to this little beforehand. The piece in the intercept,
new details emerge about coronavirus research at a Chinese lab.
This was in the intercept where the nine hundred pages
of material related to US funded coronavirus research in China
released following a foil lawsuit. Clay Fouci lied they did
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fund and knew they were funding gain a function the
wool Hunt institude of virology. We're in a position where
the people who have been in charge of our response
and wrong the whole time when it comes to COVID
also funded the creation of COVID's at about it. Yeah,
we are in a spot right now, Buck, where our
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American tax dollars paid for gain of function research which
helped to allow the creation of this virus. I mean again,
I think you and I both Buck, based on the evidence,
would say the most likely outcome from Our opinion is
that this thing leaked out of a lab right that
it didn't like it spread zenotically through through one animal
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getting it, giving it to a human, through the wet market,
or anything else. Based on the Chinese response, based on
all the evidence, it seems highly probable to me don't
know one hundred percent, because we don't have that smoking gun.
I don't think we ever will. Seems highly probable that
this came out of a lab, and it came out
of a lab that was partially funded to be doing
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the research, that it was into coronaviruses based on American
tax dollars, and that the people who have led our
response inside of the government were directly involved in helping
to ensure that this virus ever existed, helped to cover
up the fact that they were involved, criticized anyone who
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suggested they could be involved, and have consistently lied to
the American public ever since this discussion began, including under
oath to Congress. One of the grants from this intercept
pieces is a quote titled Understanding the Risk of Bat
coronavirus Emergence outlines an ambitious effort led by Eco Health
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Alliance president Peter Dajak to screen thousands of bat samples
for novel coronaviruses. The research also involves screening people who
work with live animals. The documents can say contain several
critical details about the research in Wuhan, including the fact
that the key experimental work with humanized mice was conducted
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at a Biosay fifty Level three lab at the Wuhan
University Center for Animal experiment not the Wuhan Instuite of
Virology was was assumed. The documents raise additional questions about
all this, including clay how concerned they were about the
possibility of the bats biting or otherwise spreading the virus
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that they were injecting them with and playing with into
a human because then you'd have a super coronavirus in
a human being. I mean, think about all the things
that happen to not be true in order for this
to be a coincidence. Let's presume that it arose organically
and naturally. You're telling me that it happened in all
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the world where this could have occurred right next to
the Wuhan Virology lab and right next to this other
lab where they're doing gain a function research on these bats,
it happened organically. Of everywhere, it could happen in China,
by the way, I remember, the bats that they were
testing are not endemic. In other words, they're not located
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in Wuhan. Naturally, they brought all these bats in. And
you're telling me that it just coincidentally, of anywhere in
the world that this virus could have emerged, they're doing
high level gain of function research on bats, and they're
doing high level virology gain of function research two different
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laboratories which are basically located right by the food mart.
And you're telling me that of all the places in
the world where COVID could have originated, it just happened
to originate right beside those two laboratories. And it's not connected. Well,
this has been the theory for a year. And if
you said this a year ago, or when we were
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saying this over a year ago, now really going on
more like almost what eighteen months, you were a conspiracy
theorist that against a science and unwilling to deal in fact,
and Facebook would shut you down and Twitter would ban
you and all the rest of it. And there's no humility,
no sense of overreach. Maybe we should scale it back
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from the same people that insisted that this was a
crazy conspiracy theory. Then somehow they're the people that are
now telling you get that third get that fourth shot.
Shut up, peasant, don't ask any questions. The way I
think about it, Buck, is if we were standing in
front of a jury and they were just twelve reasonably
intelligent American jurors, and one group had to argue, hey,
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you know what, it just naturally evolved from an animal
and somewhere at the food market one person got it
and it's spread there. And the other person said, hey,
they were conducting gain a function, high level research in
this laboratory right by the food market, on viruses and
on the bat where we know the COVID virus came from.
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But yes, there's going to be a vaccinated economy and
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Kind of funky. It's a tough one to do. This
is what they're doing there, folks. I just think you
should know that whereas a lot of us have been
for a while here pointing to Australia is saying, look
at how crazy they are. I think that the CDC
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that's possible here too, we could do some of that stuff.
I mean, Clay, just to give everyone a sense, new
cases in Australia right now, they have these severe restriction
Remember it's an island, much lower population density. A lot
going in its favor for COVID in the first place,
new cases one thousand, five hundred and forty five as
of today. The previous peak was in August of twenty
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of vaccination and extreme lockdown on Australia, they're having their
worst COVID surge ever. M interesting. And also you're not
allowed to hardly even talk about this either. Although Australia,
despite what the left wing lunatics in our country are saying,
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said COVID zero isn't a real opportunity anymore. Like the
idea of COVID zero made sense in a small way
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can restrict travel into and outto of those countries, but
only if you had a vaccine that was so effective
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the fight here is it's over freedom versus authoritarianism. It's
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to stop being unreasonable and think that anything, no matter
how minute, or how intrusive, or how absurd, is worth
doing against COVID, because anything that mitigates COVID in any
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through the Tuesday edition of the program, and Buck, I
talked about this a little bit yesterday, but I got
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to get your reaction to this story as well. So
Rolling Stone published a story that ivermectin was causing the
use of ivermectin was causing an Oklahoma hospital to have
to refuse surface to people who were gunshot victims, that
there were massive lines in the nursing home, in the
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emergency room, and that as a result of ivermectin, this
hospital was basically having to shut down its emergency room
because they were overflowed with ivermectin patients. Everyone jumps on
board this report. It is ricocheting throughout Twitter, the Rachel
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Maddow's of the world, literally, Rachel Maddow herself share this story.
The usual suspects all shared it's based on one doctor. Finally,
somebody reaches out to the hospital itself. It turns out
the doctor hadn't been at the hospital in a couple
of months and they had had no issues whatsoever with
ivermectin of any degree. That means the story, the Rolling
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Stone story Buck was one hundred percent fake news to
use a Trump phrase, and was not in any way
based in factual legitimacy. It was not true. I does
Twitter do anything with it? Does anybody like require did
any of these tweets receive any kind of statement? As
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you're in mind, tweets often do. Anytime we say hey,
you know, like here's the latest data, it says click
here for COVID, you know, vaccination information. Alex Berenson loses
his ability to post on Twitter. Yet this story trends
everywhere and there are no consequences for the people who
spread one fake news. Two observations about this class saw
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this story over the weekend and as I was taking
some vacation, thank you for being at the helm yesterday
so I could actually get a day off. One of
them is that the people who run with this stuff
don't care when it's fake, meaning that this is just
like Russia collusion. This is the media environment we're in now.
You show your side how much you hate the other side,
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and you take a cheap shot at them, and you
are rewarded with more viewers, more money, more following. That's
how left wing corporate media works today. That's the situation.
Look at Rachel Maddow thirty million dollars, She's gonna get
paid into a new contract to not even left her
to not even really work. And after just lying about
Russia collusion for four years to her audience, it didn't matter.
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The point was she was feeding. She was feeding the
loony left what they wanted, and they loved her for it.
And it's the same thing with this rolling stone. They
have no credibility to protect a rolling stone. These journalistic
enterprises aren't serious in being unbiased and about the facts.
But there's another part of this that I found really bothersome.
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And you're seeing this all over the place now too. Yeah,
sure they want to they want to do this. They'll
lie about it. They'll feel good lying about it. But oh,
look at these rubs. Look at these fools who probably
voted for Trump, who are taking ivermectin and all this
stuff that's not even enough for them. They'll lie about it,
and then they'll pile on top of that. They're a
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danger to you crazy libs sitting at home with your
three masks on while you're taking a shower, to you
people sitting in you know, Santa Monica or in Brooklyn
who watch MSNBC. They're taking up all the hospital beds
for the gunshot victims and the car accident victims. So
it's not even enough to lie about them being dumb
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by saying there's all these overdoses happening. They lie about
them being an actual menace to public safety, Clay, because
that's really what the left wing audience wants to hear. Now,
it's not even all these people who won't do what
Fauci says are endangering themselves. No, it has to be
they're endangering everybody. And the lie to make people think that,
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And it is just wild to me. And I would
think Alex Barnson said, you know, he's figuring out his
legal responses here, but to me, and again this is
me thinking about it from a legal perspective. If Twitter
is going to argue that they are trying to apply
editorial fact checking functions to their service, this is a
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wildly arbitrary and capricious policy that you can point to
this story because remember there's a big difference. Like you
and I every single day share a variety of opinions.
It's oftentimes very hard to prove that an opinion is
wrong because it's just that it's an opinion as opposed
to a fact, which you can prove whether or not
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a fact is wrong or right. This story that Rolling
Stone and published, the facts are lies. It is one
hundred percent not real. It's fake news, to use the
Trump term. And yet there's no requirement that Rachel Maddow
take it down. There's no requirement that all these MSNBC
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employees buck who otherwise are able to share stories, you know,
for you and me and Alex Barrens and anybody who
shares facts like data out of Israel or data about
the vaccine that makes people uncomfortable, we're not allowed to
do that. But they're allowed to share a story that
is one percent false. You remember when people were supposed
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to be all freaked out. It's it's almost like Clay,
there are propaganda loops that we're all in here because
as I'm seeing this, and to your point about how
this is fake news, it's not only fake, it's obviously fake,
demonstrably and provably false. But but even beyond that, though
when someone hears this, it doesn't ring true to one
reasonable person. Really, the hospitals or people are are that
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are that dumb that there are thousands of them who
are dying from over not even remember they're not taking
ivermectin and getting sick. They're overdosing on like you know,
it's one thing if you want to try a drug
that's you know, off label, but as FDA cleared or something, right.
I mean, this would be like saying, oh, I think
that Thailand all would be helpful for people that have
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a Like I had a lot of back pain from
COVID for whatever reason. Okay, if I down the whole
bottle of Thailand all, that's on me. That's not on
you know, Bear or whoever, the manufacturers of tire. All right.
So also it doesn't have there ever been any hospital
that isn't able to treat gunshot victims. Have you ever
heard somebody like showing up at a hospital with a
gunshot wound. They're like, hey, we can't get to you
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right now. But it doesn't even sound plausible, and they
ran with it. It's more, it's not even just cherry
picking facts or not looking at data. It's an obvious lie,
but it was a delicious lie for the left, so
they ran with it. It just reminds me of this
back in the day, when we had people talking about
the member this the the potential benefits of hydroxy chloroqu
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or right, yeah, And and then there was a a
version of it was it was not hydroxy chlorical or something.
It was like a different kind of chloroquin that is
used to clean fish tanks. And there was this whole
thing about someone took, uh, someone took fish tank cleaner,
and this was supposed to be blamed on trips like
if if you can't tell the difference between hydroxy chloroquin
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and what's used to clean a fish tank, like, that's
on you. But that also was a stupid line that
wasn't a thing that was really happening. People weren't overdosing on,
you know, on chloroquine fish tank cleaner all over the country.
But they keep doing this because it's essential to them.
Clay to believe the people who disagree with them are
so dumb that they don't even have to be listened
to or thought about. I think that's exactly right. And
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also all it's like mad libs version of a story.
If a story perfectly fits your version of the world,
it's it's kind of like the Jesse Smallett case buck
where it's like that was so perfect if it actually happened.
It's like a fevered dream of a left winger. Right,
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somebody in a maga hat chase down a gay black
man with a noose in Chicago and said, hey, we're
doing this to you because we're big Trump supporters. It's like, hey,
wait a minute, Oklahoma, red state ivermectin, dumb red state
people can't even treat gunshot victims like when you see
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all the fact patterns lining up, and it would be
like the fevered dream of a political party to have
it occur. Your initial response, if you have a functional brain,
should be skepticism, Right, That's just what it naturally should be,
especially on the Internet, where you have to question whether
anything is true or false. Right. I also think so
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much falsehood out there. I think at some level to
people like Rachel Madaw, not only is it professionally beneficial
to her, I mean, I like she really needs the
money anymore. But you know people, even rich people like money.
Sometimes they're like it a whole lot more than they should,
but it benefits her professionally. But Clay also, I think
there's some joy that the liberal elites get over promoting
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stories like this that are such a thumb in the
eye to regular folks who don't buy into all the
fauci stuff. It's kind of like saying, yeah, this is
what we think of you, that we'll even we'll run
with a story that's so patently false, so obviously untrue,
so vicious about how we think you're not smart. Right,
That's what they're really pushing. And I think they get
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a kind of sick joy out of it, honestly, because
there's no way, there's no way that Rachel Mattou didn't
have a moment, And I'm just she's not the only one,
but she's the most prominent one. Where it's like, are
people really dying in large numbers from oding over ivermectin?
Are they just refusing to treat gunshot victims because of it?
I mean, just even take away the ivermected and just
be like, wait a minute, are there really people showing
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up at at at at emergency rooms and bleeding out
because they can't get the doctors to them. And we're
not we're not hearing from the families, we're not hearing
from the police about there, We're not hearing anything from
anybody involved except one random doctors never thought anyway. The
dumber and more vicious the lie, the more. A lot
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of Democrats take to it right away. We'll come back
into this. Also got Afghanistan. Biden's State Department wants to
take credit that is not due and also wants to
get in the way of things. Not a surpriser. We'll
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him before. Just a really interesting thinker. He's from the UK.
He's a rapper and a podcaster, very pro freedom, very
(31:59):
anti fauciism. We want to talk to him both about
what he's seen in the UK and also what he's
in terms of COVID stuff and what he's seeing in
this country. And Clay and I are just excited to
talk to him. He's really building a conservative audience in
America very very quickly, so I want to introduce him
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just walked into studio. He's here right now, so that's exciting.
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We'll get him on in a second. We also want
to take some calls we have not forgotten. Of course,
I have many, many lines, many lines lit up eight
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let's get to Laurie in Colorado. Laurie on the Clay,
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Good afternoon, Thank you, thank you.
What's up? Hey? I wanted to mention to you a
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kind of an unusual situation I had as a COVID survivor.
I had a sinus infection about a month ago. I'm
a flight of tenant. Sinus infections are very painful. And
I went to an urgent care near my home. Went in.
Of course, they do the COVID test. Of course it's negative.
And the PA proceeds to lecture me on getting the vaccine.
(33:07):
And I said, well, you know what, as soon as
it's fully validated, confirmed to whatever, I'll consider it. But
let's talk about my sinus infection. She at the end
of the conversation, she refused to give me a dose
of amoxusillon. And I'm sitting here, going, I can't believe
this is happening. I mean, in my fifties, I'm healthy.
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I'm only here because the pain is really bad now
because we wear marks all the time on the airplane.
And I just looked at her and I said, you know,
I'm a fight, isn't it right? I just need amoxysillon. Again,
lecture you need a vaccine. I said, this has nothing
to do with my sinus infection. I just need a moxysillin.
It's been a proof for decades. Let's move on right.
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So so she wouldn't give you the care that you
needed and wanted unless you got the vaccine. It was
like a quid pro quo. Exactly great happened? What was
the end result? It was a pointless argument. I even
talked about annibodies. It was pointless cited research. Anyway, I
went home furious. I called tell a doctor, my insurance carrier,
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and thankfully that wonderful doctor Matt on the other hand,
I told him what happened, and he could not believe it.
He said, which pharmacy. He immediately sent a prescription for me.
He said, I have never heard of anybody doing that.
I said, trust me, I have the name of the
medical director. I'm writing a letter to them. Thank you
for calling in. This is this is the point we
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were making earlier, Buck about the idea that we are
going to tell doctors that they are such moral authorities
that they decide who and what they're going to treat
people who are ill is based on the morality of
their illness. First of all, you can be a good
person or a bad person. And get COVID right, Like
the virus isn't discriminating based on the overall health status
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necessarily or morality of anyone out there. You might just
get exposed, right. And this idea that doctors should be
making choices about who they treat, it's it's pure madness
the medical profession in this situation, the medical profession has
sort of gone the way of dare I say, intelligence
analysis after you know a rock WMD and now the Afghanistan,
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the Afghanistan withdrawal, the bacle, where people realize it's very politicized.
These are not gods. They make a lot of mistakes,
and it's unfortunate because the one person I think, maybe
you know, you could argue, okay, maybe a prosecutor. You
know there are some roles and the some roles in
day to day life. Hopefully you never have to deal
with a prosecutor where you really don't want there to
be politicization. But I know that ever wants to walk
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into doctor's office and have it just be. This is
a highly trained professional who's going to help you be
as well and healthy and safe as possible, not going
to give you a lecture about Trump or either Mechtin
or whatever. I think everybody with a functional brain agrees
with that. And again I would just say, replace COVID
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with HIV. If people were refusing treatment because of lifestyle choices,
Oh you didn't use a condom while you were having sex.
Oh you've ended up acquiring a virus that is based
in some way on a decision that you made in
your life. People would lose their minds. Yet you insert
COVID as the choice, and people are applauding doctors like
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this who are effectively becoming social justice warrior advocates instead
of just trying to treat everybody fairly. Clay and I
are going to bring up to speed on the latest
in Afghanistan, the ongoing efforts to get everybody out who
is left behind by the Biden administration. The next hour.
First up in a couple of minutes, our friend Zoobie
Rapper podcaster, interesting guy who'll be with us? You're listening
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Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in. I am Clay Travis,
he is Buck Sexton. This is the Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show and we have got a lot of
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You can search out my name. Show is so popular.
Now Buck, you type end Clay a type end Buck
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Buck has a show, We have surpassed them at the
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we appreciate all of you out there, all fifty States,
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to get into this rolling Stone ivermectin one hundred percent
why and how it exposes the hypocrisy of big tech.
But I want to hit you with a data point
that I think is significant that is not being discussed anywhere.
Joe By ran his entire campaign on the idea that
he was going to fix COVID. He hid in the basement,
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he wore the oversized mask. He used it as a
cudgel to attack Donald Trump all the time, The idea
that Trump was not taking COVID seriously enough, the idea
that Trump had mismanaged COVID. All of that was the
underlying theme and justification alongside of normalcy that Joe Biden
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based his entire presidential campaign upon. We are now coming
up on the fall now that we have passed the
Labor Day, and you can look at the data from
last fall a year ago, when Joe Biden was making
this argument all through Labor Day in September. Did you know,
Buck Sexton, that right now today as we speak, there
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are twice as many people hospitalized with COVID as on
Labor Day last year, when Joe Biden was saying that
President Trump was doing an awful job of handling COVID.
He owns COVID now and this failure, which would, honestly,
if Trump were still in office, that hospitalization data would
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be being used as continued failure of the Trump administration. Yet,
I bet a huge percentage of our audience right now
that's listening to us has no idea that compared to
last Labor Day, we have twice as many people hospitalized
right now with COVID as we did last year, And
how could that be? As we know the dominant lib
(02:34):
journal media narrative is day in and day out, how
could the current surge not just in cases, but hospitalizations
be the fault the fault of the unvaccinated and it
exceeds where we were a year ago, remember right when
everyone was unvaccinated. When everybody was unvaccinated a year ago,
it's a great story. So how is it possible to
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blame those who have not been vaccinated when it's worse
some now with litizations than it was a year ago
when it was not possible to even be vaccinated. There
is obviously something else going on here, Clay, which is
why the questions about how does this end, what does
that look like, what do we have to do? How
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long do these vaccines really last? How well do they
really work? That's if we had an honest, not just journalistic,
but scientific community in this country. People are still so terrified.
We both know personally doctors who think that what's going
on with faucisum is madness, but they don't want to
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abandon all their patients and their career by being booted
out of their hospital and having their license suspended for
questioning Fauci. I mean this is this is like the
the flat eartherism of our current moment. Actually, it's not
people that are skeptical of vaccines, it's people who won't
allow there to be questions about vaccines. And what I
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would say too, Buck, I think you hit on it
well with the flat earth is M. We've talked about
the heliocentric vers versus geocentric theories to take people all
the way back to like sixth grade science. But the
essence of this and why it should be so offensive
to everyone out there, regardless of your political beliefs, is
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science is about rigorously questioning conventional wisdom. That's how we
get to legitimate ideas and new hypotheses and theories which
govern our existence. And yet, if you point out, wait
a minute, Israel right now is starting to discuss a
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fourth different COVID shot. They have already given everybody a
third COVID vaccine, they are now talking about a fourth.
Israeli data reflects that the number of people who are
testing positive for COVID continues to skyrocket in that country.
And if you ask, wait a minute. Is this really
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a vaccine? Is it a therapeutic? How is it that
we with all seventy five percent book of people eighteen
and up in this country have received at least one
COVID vaccine shot. How is it that we have twice
as many people hospitalized for COVID this year as we
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did at the exact same time last year, when no
one had the opportunity to be vaccinated. Yet, how is
it the Biden administration gets away day in and day
out with not addressing this in any way other than
just to say we need everyone to get vaccinated. Well,
clearly that does not end this thing. That's because you
have a lot of people who are vaccinated who are
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still getting COVID and I know that they say, oh,
it protects from severe disease. Okay, how long does it
if the vaccine wanes in effectiveness? Right? The assumption here
could be all right, maybe you have you have enough
antibodies that you're more likely than not going to survive.
But does that also remember originally it was you won't
(06:03):
get you're basically not going to get COVID. Rochelle will
Lenski of the CDC, the director said, you don't get it,
you don't spread it. Get the vaccine. That was the pitch.
Now you definitely yet can get it, right, I mean,
maybe it's a little less like hospitalized with it. I
mean there's still I mean, look, I mean it's not
as if your chances of ever dying of COVID go
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away when you get this vaccine. You can still die
of COVID. And we're looking now at a situation where
I think Clay, they don't want to do the real analysis.
They don't want to actually look at natural immunity because
we could be heading toward a point where it's just
everyone's basically gonna get COVID. And the way that this
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actually not goes away entirely but gets under control is
when enough people have natural immunity, more so even than vaccinity.
Me didn't. No, I'm not saying we're there yet, but
that's clearly in the background here. And when you're talking
about getting a third, fourth shot. Now, all the questions
about all right, well, what are the side effects and
what percentage of people have them and how much is
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too much and what does it do? I mean, as
a simple function of math, if one in one hundred
thousand people have a really bad reaction to a shot
if everyone has to get it every year, that you know,
the math starts to add up very quickly to what's
really the benefit of this, especially if it starts to
the protection of it goes away very quickly. But then
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there's also speaking of the science, Clay, I know we've
talked to this little beforehand. The piece in the intercept,
new details emerge about coronavirus research at a Chinese lab.
This was in the intercept where the nine hundred pages
of material related to US funded coronavirus research in China
released following a foil lawsuit. Clay Fouci lied they did
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fund and knew they were funding gain a function the
wool Hunt institude of virology. We're in a position where
the people who have been in charge of our response
and wrong the whole time when it comes to COVID
also funded the creation of COVID's at about it. Yeah,
we are in a spot right now, Buck, where our
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American tax dollars paid for gain of function research which
helped to allow the creation of this virus. I mean again,
I think you and I both Buck, based on the evidence,
would say the most likely outcome from Our opinion is
that this thing leaked out of a lab right that
it didn't like it spread zenotically through through one animal
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getting it, giving it to a human, through the wet market,
or anything else. Based on the Chinese response, based on
all the evidence, it seems highly probable to me don't
know one hundred percent, because we don't have that smoking gun.
I don't think we ever will. Seems highly probable that
this came out of a lab, and it came out
of a lab that was partially funded to be doing
(08:55):
the research, that it was into coronaviruses based on American
tax dollars, and that the people who have led our
response inside of the government were directly involved in helping
to ensure that this virus ever existed, helped to cover
up the fact that they were involved, criticized anyone who
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suggested they could be involved, and have consistently lied to
the American public ever since this discussion began, including under
oath to Congress. One of the grants from this intercept
pieces is a quote titled Understanding the Risk of Bat
coronavirus Emergence outlines an ambitious effort led by Eco Health
(09:37):
Alliance president Peter Dajak to screen thousands of bat samples
for novel coronaviruses. The research also involves screening people who
work with live animals. The documents can say contain several
critical details about the research in Wuhan, including the fact
that the key experimental work with humanized mice was conducted
(09:59):
at a Biosay fifty Level three lab at the Wuhan
University Center for Animal experiment not the Wuhan Instuite of
Virology was was assumed. The documents raise additional questions about
all this, including clay how concerned they were about the
possibility of the bats biting or otherwise spreading the virus
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that they were injecting them with and playing with into
a human because then you'd have a super coronavirus in
a human being. I mean, think about all the things
that happen to not be true in order for this
to be a coincidence. Let's presume that it arose organically
and naturally. You're telling me that it happened in all
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the world where this could have occurred right next to
the Wuhan Virology lab and right next to this other
lab where they're doing gain a function research on these bats,
it happened organically. Of everywhere, it could happen in China,
by the way, I remember, the bats that they were
testing are not endemic. In other words, they're not located
(11:06):
in Wuhan. Naturally, they brought all these bats in. And
you're telling me that it just coincidentally, of anywhere in
the world that this virus could have emerged, they're doing
high level gain of function research on bats, and they're
doing high level virology gain of function research two different
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laboratories which are basically located right by the food mart.
And you're telling me that of all the places in
the world where COVID could have originated, it just happened
to originate right beside those two laboratories. And it's not connected. Well,
this has been the theory for a year. And if
you said this a year ago, or when we were
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saying this over a year ago, now really going on
more like almost what eighteen months, you were a conspiracy
theorist that against a science and unwilling to deal in fact,
and Facebook would shut you down and Twitter would ban
you and all the rest of it. And there's no humility,
no sense of overreach. Maybe we should scale it back
(12:13):
from the same people that insisted that this was a
crazy conspiracy theory. Then somehow they're the people that are
now telling you get that third get that fourth shot.
Shut up, peasant, don't ask any questions. The way I
think about it, Buck, is if we were standing in
front of a jury and they were just twelve reasonably
intelligent American jurors, and one group had to argue, hey,
(12:34):
you know what, it just naturally evolved from an animal
and somewhere at the food market one person got it
and it's spread there. And the other person said, hey,
they were conducting gain a function, high level research in
this laboratory right by the food market, on viruses and
on the bat where we know the COVID virus came from.
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Kind of funky. It's a tough one to do. This
is what they're doing there, folks. I just think you
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at how crazy they are. I think that the CDC
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I mean, Clay, just to give everyone a sense, new
cases in Australia right now, they have these severe restriction
Remember it's an island, much lower population density. A lot
going in its favor for COVID in the first place,
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of today. The previous peak was in August of twenty
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allowed to hardly even talk about this either. Although Australia,
despite what the left wing lunatics in our country are saying,
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said COVID zero isn't a real opportunity anymore. Like the
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can restrict travel into and outto of those countries, but
only if you had a vaccine that was so effective
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they're at least looking at the data and saying we're
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the fight here is it's over freedom versus authoritarianism. It's
(16:58):
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to stop being unreasonable and think that anything, no matter
how minute, or how intrusive, or how absurd, is worth
doing against COVID, because anything that mitigates COVID in any
way is inherently justified. Clay, It's just an unreasonable perspective,
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through the Tuesday edition of the program, and Buck, I
talked about this a little bit yesterday, but I got
(19:06):
to get your reaction to this story as well. So
Rolling Stone published a story that ivermectin was causing the
use of ivermectin was causing an Oklahoma hospital to have
to refuse surface to people who were gunshot victims, that
there were massive lines in the nursing home, in the
(19:29):
emergency room, and that as a result of ivermectin, this
hospital was basically having to shut down its emergency room
because they were overflowed with ivermectin patients. Everyone jumps on
board this report. It is ricocheting throughout Twitter, the Rachel
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Maddow's of the world, literally, Rachel Maddow herself share this story.
The usual suspects all shared it's based on one doctor. Finally,
somebody reaches out to the hospital itself. It turns out
the doctor hadn't been at the hospital in a couple
of months and they had had no issues whatsoever with
ivermectin of any degree. That means the story, the Rolling
(20:13):
Stone story Buck was one hundred percent fake news to
use a Trump phrase, and was not in any way
based in factual legitimacy. It was not true. I does
Twitter do anything with it? Does anybody like require did
any of these tweets receive any kind of statement? As
(20:37):
you're in mind, tweets often do. Anytime we say hey,
you know, like here's the latest data, it says click
here for COVID, you know, vaccination information. Alex Berenson loses
his ability to post on Twitter. Yet this story trends
everywhere and there are no consequences for the people who
spread one fake news. Two observations about this class saw
(20:58):
this story over the weekend and as I was taking
some vacation, thank you for being at the helm yesterday
so I could actually get a day off. One of
them is that the people who run with this stuff
don't care when it's fake, meaning that this is just
like Russia collusion. This is the media environment we're in now.
You show your side how much you hate the other side,
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and you take a cheap shot at them, and you
are rewarded with more viewers, more money, more following. That's
how left wing corporate media works today. That's the situation.
Look at Rachel Maddow thirty million dollars, She's gonna get
paid into a new contract to not even left her
to not even really work. And after just lying about
Russia collusion for four years to her audience, it didn't matter.
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The point was she was feeding. She was feeding the
loony left what they wanted, and they loved her for it.
And it's the same thing with this rolling stone. They
have no credibility to protect a rolling stone. These journalistic
enterprises aren't serious in being unbiased and about the facts.
But there's another part of this that I found really bothersome.
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And you're seeing this all over the place now too. Yeah,
sure they want to they want to do this. They'll
lie about it. They'll feel good lying about it. But oh,
look at these rubs. Look at these fools who probably
voted for Trump, who are taking ivermectin and all this
stuff that's not even enough for them. They'll lie about it,
and then they'll pile on top of that. They're a
(22:25):
danger to you crazy libs sitting at home with your
three masks on while you're taking a shower, to you
people sitting in you know, Santa Monica or in Brooklyn
who watch MSNBC. They're taking up all the hospital beds
for the gunshot victims and the car accident victims. So
it's not even enough to lie about them being dumb
(22:47):
by saying there's all these overdoses happening. They lie about
them being an actual menace to public safety, Clay, because
that's really what the left wing audience wants to hear. Now,
it's not even all these people who won't do what
Fauci says are endangering themselves. No, it has to be
they're endangering everybody. And the lie to make people think that,
(23:09):
And it is just wild to me. And I would
think Alex Barnson said, you know, he's figuring out his
legal responses here, but to me, and again this is
me thinking about it from a legal perspective. If Twitter
is going to argue that they are trying to apply
editorial fact checking functions to their service, this is a
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wildly arbitrary and capricious policy that you can point to
this story because remember there's a big difference. Like you
and I every single day share a variety of opinions.
It's oftentimes very hard to prove that an opinion is
wrong because it's just that it's an opinion as opposed
to a fact, which you can prove whether or not
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a fact is wrong or right. This story that Rolling
Stone and published, the facts are lies. It is one
hundred percent not real. It's fake news, to use the
Trump term. And yet there's no requirement that Rachel Maddow
take it down. There's no requirement that all these MSNBC
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employees buck who otherwise are able to share stories, you know,
for you and me and Alex Barrens and anybody who
shares facts like data out of Israel or data about
the vaccine that makes people uncomfortable, we're not allowed to
do that. But they're allowed to share a story that
is one percent false. You remember when people were supposed
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to be all freaked out. It's it's almost like Clay,
there are propaganda loops that we're all in here because
as I'm seeing this, and to your point about how
this is fake news, it's not only fake, it's obviously fake,
demonstrably and provably false. But but even beyond that, though
when someone hears this, it doesn't ring true to one
reasonable person. Really, the hospitals or people are are that
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are that dumb that there are thousands of them who
are dying from over not even remember they're not taking
ivermectin and getting sick. They're overdosing on like you know,
it's one thing if you want to try a drug
that's you know, off label, but as FDA cleared or something, right.
I mean, this would be like saying, oh, I think
that Thailand all would be helpful for people that have
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a Like I had a lot of back pain from
COVID for whatever reason. Okay, if I down the whole
bottle of Thailand all, that's on me. That's not on
you know, Bear or whoever, the manufacturers of tire. All right.
So also it doesn't have there ever been any hospital
that isn't able to treat gunshot victims. Have you ever
heard somebody like showing up at a hospital with a
gunshot wound. They're like, hey, we can't get to you
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right now. But it doesn't even sound plausible, and they
ran with it. It's more, it's not even just cherry
picking facts or not looking at data. It's an obvious lie,
but it was a delicious lie for the left, so
they ran with it. It just reminds me of this
back in the day, when we had people talking about
the member this the the potential benefits of hydroxy chloroqu
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or right, yeah, And and then there was a a
version of it was it was not hydroxy chlorical or something.
It was like a different kind of chloroquin that is
used to clean fish tanks. And there was this whole
thing about someone took, uh, someone took fish tank cleaner,
and this was supposed to be blamed on trips like
if if you can't tell the difference between hydroxy chloroquin
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and what's used to clean a fish tank, like, that's
on you. But that also was a stupid line that
wasn't a thing that was really happening. People weren't overdosing on,
you know, on chloroquine fish tank cleaner all over the country.
But they keep doing this because it's essential to them.
Clay to believe the people who disagree with them are
so dumb that they don't even have to be listened
to or thought about. I think that's exactly right. And
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also all it's like mad libs version of a story.
If a story perfectly fits your version of the world,
it's it's kind of like the Jesse Smallett case buck
where it's like that was so perfect if it actually happened.
It's like a fevered dream of a left winger. Right,
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somebody in a maga hat chase down a gay black
man with a noose in Chicago and said, hey, we're
doing this to you because we're big Trump supporters. It's like, hey,
wait a minute, Oklahoma, red state ivermectin, dumb red state
people can't even treat gunshot victims like when you see
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all the fact patterns lining up, and it would be
like the fevered dream of a political party to have
it occur. Your initial response, if you have a functional brain,
should be skepticism, Right, That's just what it naturally should be,
especially on the Internet, where you have to question whether
anything is true or false. Right. I also think so
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much falsehood out there. I think at some level to
people like Rachel Madaw, not only is it professionally beneficial
to her, I mean, I like she really needs the
money anymore. But you know people, even rich people like money.
Sometimes they're like it a whole lot more than they should,
but it benefits her professionally. But Clay also, I think
there's some joy that the liberal elites get over promoting
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stories like this that are such a thumb in the
eye to regular folks who don't buy into all the
fauci stuff. It's kind of like saying, yeah, this is
what we think of you, that we'll even we'll run
with a story that's so patently false, so obviously untrue,
so vicious about how we think you're not smart. Right,
That's what they're really pushing. And I think they get
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a kind of sick joy out of it, honestly, because
there's no way, there's no way that Rachel Mattou didn't
have a moment, And I'm just she's not the only one,
but she's the most prominent one. Where it's like, are
people really dying in large numbers from oding over ivermectin?
Are they just refusing to treat gunshot victims because of it?
I mean, just even take away the ivermected and just
be like, wait a minute, are there really people showing
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up at at at at emergency rooms and bleeding out
because they can't get the doctors to them. And we're
not we're not hearing from the families, we're not hearing
from the police about there, We're not hearing anything from
anybody involved except one random doctors never thought anyway. The
dumber and more vicious the lie, the more. A lot
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into this. Also got Afghanistan. Biden's State Department wants to
take credit that is not due and also wants to
get in the way of things. Not a surpriser. We'll
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We've got Zubie joining us in a few minutes. A
lot of you probably have not yet heard of Zubie,
although he was on the Rogan Podcast recently. I've interviewed
him before. Just a really interesting thinker. He's from the UK.
He's a rapper and a podcaster, very pro freedom, very
(31:59):
anti fauciism. We want to talk to him both about
what he's seen in the UK and also what he's
in terms of COVID stuff and what he's seeing in
this country. And Clay and I are just excited to
talk to him. He's really building a conservative audience in
America very very quickly, so I want to introduce him
to all of you. Give him. He actually, Clay, he
just walked into studio. He's here right now, so that's exciting.
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We'll get him on in a second. We also want
to take some calls we have not forgotten. Of course,
I have many, many lines, many lines lit up eight
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let's get to Laurie in Colorado. Laurie on the Clay,
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Good afternoon, Thank you, thank you.
What's up? Hey? I wanted to mention to you a
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kind of an unusual situation I had as a COVID survivor.
I had a sinus infection about a month ago. I'm
a flight of tenant. Sinus infections are very painful. And
I went to an urgent care near my home. Went in.
Of course, they do the COVID test. Of course it's negative.
And the PA proceeds to lecture me on getting the vaccine.
(33:07):
And I said, well, you know what, as soon as
it's fully validated, confirmed to whatever, I'll consider it. But
let's talk about my sinus infection. She at the end
of the conversation, she refused to give me a dose
of amoxusillon. And I'm sitting here, going, I can't believe
this is happening. I mean, in my fifties, I'm healthy.
(33:28):
I'm only here because the pain is really bad now
because we wear marks all the time on the airplane.
And I just looked at her and I said, you know,
I'm a fight, isn't it right? I just need amoxysillon. Again,
lecture you need a vaccine. I said, this has nothing
to do with my sinus infection. I just need a moxysillin.
It's been a proof for decades. Let's move on right.
(33:49):
So so she wouldn't give you the care that you
needed and wanted unless you got the vaccine. It was
like a quid pro quo. Exactly great happened? What was
the end result? It was a pointless argument. I even
talked about annibodies. It was pointless cited research. Anyway, I
went home furious. I called tell a doctor, my insurance carrier,
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and thankfully that wonderful doctor Matt on the other hand,
I told him what happened, and he could not believe it.
He said, which pharmacy. He immediately sent a prescription for me.
He said, I have never heard of anybody doing that.
I said, trust me, I have the name of the
medical director. I'm writing a letter to them. Thank you
for calling in. This is this is the point we
(34:32):
were making earlier, Buck about the idea that we are
going to tell doctors that they are such moral authorities
that they decide who and what they're going to treat
people who are ill is based on the morality of
their illness. First of all, you can be a good
person or a bad person. And get COVID right, Like
the virus isn't discriminating based on the overall health status
(34:56):
necessarily or morality of anyone out there. You might just
get exposed, right. And this idea that doctors should be
making choices about who they treat, it's it's pure madness
the medical profession in this situation, the medical profession has
sort of gone the way of dare I say, intelligence
analysis after you know a rock WMD and now the Afghanistan,
(35:19):
the Afghanistan withdrawal, the bacle, where people realize it's very politicized.
These are not gods. They make a lot of mistakes,
and it's unfortunate because the one person I think, maybe
you know, you could argue, okay, maybe a prosecutor. You
know there are some roles and the some roles in
day to day life. Hopefully you never have to deal
with a prosecutor where you really don't want there to
be politicization. But I know that ever wants to walk
(35:40):
into doctor's office and have it just be. This is
a highly trained professional who's going to help you be
as well and healthy and safe as possible, not going
to give you a lecture about Trump or either Mechtin
or whatever. I think everybody with a functional brain agrees
with that. And again I would just say, replace COVID
(36:02):
with HIV. If people were refusing treatment because of lifestyle choices,
Oh you didn't use a condom while you were having sex.
Oh you've ended up acquiring a virus that is based
in some way on a decision that you made in
your life. People would lose their minds. Yet you insert
COVID as the choice, and people are applauding doctors like
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this who are effectively becoming social justice warrior advocates instead
of just trying to treat everybody fairly. Clay and I
are going to bring up to speed on the latest
in Afghanistan, the ongoing efforts to get everybody out who
is left behind by the Biden administration. The next hour.
First up in a couple of minutes, our friend Zoobie
Rapper podcaster, interesting guy who'll be with us? You're listening
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