Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Jun 7 2023

Buck flies' solo and questions gender affirming care. FL Rep. Anna Paulina Luna on the FBI whistleblower. The defenestration of Chris Licht at CNN. Smoke over NYC.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's Wednesday, everybody. Welcome to the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show. I'm back from Sunny Saint Louis. Great to
see a lot of you out there. Thank you for
coming out to the event last night. I'm in solo today,
play on a much deserved vacation with the missus. I
told them that Clay needs to experience his first professional

(00:27):
massage of his life, as he is going to a
place where there is a spa. We will see if
that happened. Play. The people have made their wishes known.
We have to see if you are, in fact a
massage guy, massage officionado. I will say I actually didn't
know that spa like going to the spa was named

(00:49):
for the city in Belgium, which is a place where
there are hot springs and people used to go to convalesce.
I didn't know that until I don't know, last year
or so. So It's crazy how we don't learn things.
But there's a lot to learn today from the news cycle.
First off, we have a We didn't get into this

(01:09):
earlier in the week, and I wanted to a federal
judge has had blocked the Florida law that ends child
sex transition, surgery and hormones. I want to discuss that
with you. In New York City still going with its
plan to house migrants from in private homes. According to

(01:33):
Eric Adams, but this is also interesting to me. New
York has joined a number of other cities that have
decided to sue the car makers Hyundai and Kia out
of South Korea because they've made cars too easy to steal.

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This is what the Democrat metropolisies have been relegated to.
Now they have to actually sue the car company. It's
too easy to steal your car. It's your fault. I
don't know. Maybe they should sue the companies back and
or sue the cities back and say how about you
enforce the law and there'll be fewer criminals running around
doing all of this. Speaking of criminals, also, the Lulu

(02:16):
Lemon CEO has doubled down on the firing of two
employees who tried to intervene during a mass shoplifting event.
This isn't someone with pulling one shirt off the rack
and trying to stuff it somewhere where no one will
see this is just walking into a store, filling bags

(02:36):
with expensive merchandise and walking out because nothing will happen.
And the CEO of this ath leisure company, Lulu Lemon,
has said, yeah, that's right, You're not not allowed to
do anything about it, which is now increasingly. This is
the demand the Democrats have of you. This is the
demand that they make. But we'll get into some of that. Also,

(02:58):
want to take a lot of your calls today eight
hundred to eight A two got some Chris Christy throwing
punches in the presidential race. You can hear what Chris
Christie says, decide for yourself whether you find any of
it worthwhile or not. We have reached out to I
have to assume there's a campaign. We've reached out to

(03:18):
his people. We're waiting to hear back. We've reached out
to Nicki Haley's people. I believe she will be joining
us at some point. We've had vivek on If there's
anyone that you think we need to have on, please
let us know from the presidential primary side of things,
because I think it's important for all of you to hear.
I had some people last night telling me in person
they want. They want us to have RFK Junior back

(03:42):
on for a more extensive Oh, Nicky is joining us
on Tuesday. That's great, we have RFK Junior join us.
I had an appointment, so Clay had to handle that
interview solo. But this time, I promise you, if we
have RK on RFK Junior on, I would be there
to ask because I have a lot of questions. People

(04:03):
keep asking me, what do you think, what do you
think about an RFK unity take it with Trump? Or
what do you think about a third way? Or is
he going to shake things up? And I say, all
I really know right now is he's right on COVID
issues pretty much top to bottom. And he's been more

(04:24):
honest and forthright and write longer on that than almost
anybody else in the political game I can think of.
I mean, there are a few others who are closed,
but he's been very good on that. Beyond that, I'd
have to look and see and ask. But see, that's
the great thing we can do that we all get
to learn here together. These people who want tremendous power,
who want to lead the country, or even just lead

(04:46):
the conversation in the country. This show gives them an
opportunity to tell all of you millions of American voters
what it is that they really stand for, and you
get to make your own decision as to whether or
not you think they're being honest with you or they
straight up will they get the job done? How are
they doing? Something Else's top of mind for me right now,

(05:08):
which this isn't something I thought I would come in
today talking about. But you may have seen Elliott Page.
Elliott Page is an actor who was an act is
an actress who now is a transgender male, a female

(05:30):
who has had top surgery cut her cut her hair
very short. You probably know her best from the movie Juno.
In fact, the only thing I've ever seen her in
was movie You Know, where she plays a pregnant woman.
And it's worth noting that she played a pregnant woman
who ended up having the baby, and that alone, because
there was some consternation in the film about whether she

(05:53):
should actually have the child. That alone got a lot
of criticism from the left. What do you mean she
had a baby that wasn't planned, so, you know, demonic
and monstrous, But that's a different conversation. She is out
there as the I think right now the most famous
Hollywood female to male transition individual, I think, the most

(06:16):
famous female to male trans Hollywood person. And she's given
this interview where she says that someone attacked her outside
a Los Angeles hotel. It was a while ago too,
this is not recent, and said I'm going to bleeping

(06:37):
gay bash you. That's the quote. Now, this is just
I think everyone realizes a step away in terms of
the plausibility when you hear this. Of the individuals who
we found out later were two aspiring Nigerian actors. But

(07:00):
Jesse Smolette told us that these two men in I
think they were specially wearing Maga hats at the time,
but they yelled this is Maga Country on the streets
of Chicago at two o'clock in the morning. Now, you
could argue that there are a lot of parts of
the country that maybe do feel quite maga, but I

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don't think that that's something that anybody would be shouting
on the streets of Chicago in particular. You know, I
don't think anyone's running around yelling in Brooklyn this is
Maga country. The whole thing. It was so absurd from
the start, which is why I even go back and
check this. When I was doing a radio six to
nine for Premier Networks, I had a podcast. I mean

(07:43):
the title of the show, which is the title of
the podcast, Jesse Smolette is lying to you. It was
like the first week that thing came out. But I
bring up the Elliott which we all know now is true.
It's true to the point of it's shocking that anybody
went along with it, But there were a lot of
people who did, including Kamala Harris. Remember that, Oh Jesse Smolette,

(08:06):
the greatest guy. Horrible, this thing happened to him, you know,
the attack on the street. Anyway, so Elliott Page says this,
No one brought it up at the time. But why
do I care enough to talk to you about this?
Why do I care enough to bring this up with you,
because usually celebrities saying things that are untrue or dumb,
or a combination of the two is not really news. Well,

(08:29):
because you'll notice there is a wave of hysteria now
because for the first time, the trans agenda of the
Democrat Party. I don't even think it should really just
be referred to as the agenda of the left, because
it's the Democrat Party. The trans agenda of the Democrat
Party has come up against legal resistance in some states.

(08:54):
It has come up against some states that have passed
law saying when it comes to children, we are not
going to allow under the guise of medicine. Where does
this medical procedure that they're doing on children? How many
years of study have they done, what are the long
term implications and what's really going on here? No, no, no,
Suddenly it is the standard of care for some young

(09:17):
person who is having a psychological and identity crisis, and
there's pushback. There's finally meaningful pushback, which is why you
now have the hysteria coming out. Now is a moment
I'm some of you are going to tell me. Also,
Ellen Page has a book that has just launched. What

(09:38):
a great way to get publicity. You claim that there
was a someone yelling, yelling hateful things at you, and
the Human Rights Campaign yesterday declared, for the first time
in its over forty years of operation, the Human Rights
Campaign has said that there is a state of a

(10:00):
urgency right now for LGBTQ plus Americans. It has issued
a guidebook alongside this warning because they want people to
be safe when traveling to places in the country that don't.
Florida is one of them. Let's just be that they've
attacked Florida. We've seen what was it, Senior, Remember the

(10:23):
NAACP attack Florida. Now the Human rights campaign saying for
LGBTQ plus people, there are places you can't go and
can't be safe. Notice the extent they're willing to go to.
The hysteria around stopping miners from making life altering body

(10:43):
mutilation surgery, and also the hormones. You know, the hormones
that people are taking. Can They'll say, oh, some of
it is reversible. They don't know really what it does
to someone over the long time, over the long term.
But because that is not just treated as though it

(11:03):
is the next great civil rights struggle of our era
by everybody in the country, because there are parents out
there in particular, say my thirteen year old is being
told to do this by school. Basically that's the most
commonplace that it happens. And I don't want the state
to weigh in and say that this is now gender

(11:24):
affirming care. I'd also have a question for all the
people who push this stuff. If it's gender affirming care
for the transition, what is it when there's the D transition.
Is that gender d affirming? How does that work gender negating?
Have they figured that one out? Anyone who says that's
not a problem or an issue doesn't know what they're

(11:46):
talking about or is lying to you. There's a Navy
seal Kristin Beck. Now Chris Beck was always Chris Back,
became Christen Beck. I believe now Chris Beck. I saw
him recently on a podcas detransition. This is the biggest
mistake of his life, his life. Yeah, how much you

(12:08):
heard about that in the mainstream media? And that was
an adult, that was an elite warrior, that was somebody
who was having a psychological crisis. Do you hear anything
about it if it's gender affirming? Care? I need some
of the talking heads who are so depraved and just
remorseless about this. I mean, think about some of the
people that are pushing this. Do any of you really

(12:29):
think that Joe Scarborough and Mika really believe that fourteen
year old should be trying to mess with their genders.
Nobody really thinks they believe that. But will they say
that on MSNBC because the latte drinking audience of libs
wants to hear it. Yes, does it matter that this
affects the perception nationally when CNN and The New York

(12:50):
Times and MS we'll talk more about CNN later, that
place is in total free fall. Yay? But does it
matter when all of this is going on to the No,
they don't care about the paycheck, just about the ratings.
Really more just about the paycheck because these are all
corporate media institutions that they can decide even if you
have bad ratings, if you're singing the right tune, they

(13:11):
can keep you around. But there's so much dishonesty. There's
so so much obvious propaganda around this issue, and I've
never heard anyone explain that. What do they say about
the A D transition? How can you be affirming a
gender that was yours since birth, you just didn't know

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it until you were a teenager or adulthood, and then
have the reality that a pretty good percentage actually realized
that was a mistake. So what was the affirmation If
the affirmation was wrong, why is this important? Well, when
you're fifteen and you don't know anything about anything, really,
you shouldn't be making decisions that you have to look

(13:52):
back on the rest of your life with tremendous regret
because medical professionals were too cowardly to do anything for you.
Your own parents either pushed it, which does happen sometimes.
It just saw she's an actress from Transformers as a
photo going around everywhere. She's got three young boys. I

(14:12):
guess their ages, I don't know. Look like they're eight,
ten and twelve. I'm not sure what there a drubs
something like that, all dress and present as girls. Megan Fox?
Is that Megan Fox? Megan Fox? Yeah, photos, three boys
all think they're girls. Does anyone think that that's because
maybe that particular parent is a lib who has adopted

(14:36):
this and pushed this on our own children as a lifestyle,
as a fashion that makes her feel good about herself. Okay, well,
if you don't believe that, what are the statistics, What
are the chances three for three all three boys? I
think it's pretty low. People say, well, but it happens
to parents that have that are that are conservative. Happens, yeah,
because then as the kids get older, they go to

(14:58):
these institutions, they go to grammar schools and high schools
and colleges and corporate America and the media. They're all
telling them all, your gender is this fluid thing and
it changes and you'll be celebrated for And a lot
of parents feel powerless about it. A lot of parents
feel like, well, what I was talking to some of
them last night. I was talking to a social worker
last night in Saint Louis about this. I told him

(15:19):
he should call in sometime. He was saying, what they're
doing to kids, What they're doing to children right now
these institutions is monstrous. But they're the ones telling you that,
oh my gosh, there's a threat now. The community is
under threat if you won't go along with gender transition
surgeries for fifteen year olds or twelve year olds. Monstrous,

(15:40):
that's what they want to tell you. We have to
hold the line for sanity somewhere. And I think that
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Speaker 1 (17:05):
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Speaker 2 (17:16):
We'll take it off the second hour of playing Buck
right now, and we're about to talk about the allegations
against Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, the Biden family, an FBI source,
an FBI whistleblower, and more. Representative Annapolina Luna of Florida
is with us. Congresswoman. Appreciate you being here and thanks

(17:37):
for making the time. Tell us we haven't talked about
this yet on the show, so I need you to
set this up for everybody a little bit. What is
going on with the House looking into bribery allegations, the
whistleblower and Biden.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Oh my gosh, it's I don't know if we have
enough time but to kind of chalk it up in
a nutshell long story show or the House Oversight Committee
has been working to collect evidence to prove that this administration,
this family, and Joe Biden specifically, has indeed been guilty
of public corruption. And we've found that we had recently,

(18:14):
just a couple of weeks ago, subpoenaed bank records from
four different banks of about twenty that we suspect, where
we found that the Biden family was receiving money from
foreign nationals basically using and selling the Biden name in
order to personally enrich themselves, and they moved these funds
between twenty companies. So that comes a couple of weeks ago,
and then this week, Representative Comber had requested a document

(18:38):
from the SBI that basically outlined and proved that Biden,
as Vice President in the Obama administration, had received a
five million dollar transfer from a foreign national and an
effort to sway American policy. And ultimately what ended up
happening is the SBI not only refused to hand over
this document it's not a classic document, but then they

(19:01):
also too said that their own source, who has been
a human source with the FBI for over ten years,
very credible. They've even paid this source over six figures
for the information that they have that they were and
they had credible fears that if this individual was unmasked
to Representative Comer and Oversight, that they had credible fears
that this person would be killed.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
So the allegation, I mean, do we know any of
the specifics, Congresswoman, about what was there, what the quid
pro quo was, I mean, we you know, what level
of detail have we been able to get about what
this FBI source was alleging.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
What we do know is that this individual has proof
that there's a five million dollar bank transaction that at
the time Vice President Biden received for his word to
influence American foreign policy. And what I can tell you
is that we've been trying very hard to get this
document and that the SBI has own wall dust. That's

(20:01):
actually part of the reason why we are now tomorrow
meeting to work on the markup for the bill to
actually hold the director of the FBI in content of Congress.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Now, holding the FBI director and contempt wouldn't result in
any actual legal action against him because the DOJ is Biden, right,
So that's not really going to change anything. Why isn't
the FBI sharing information with Congress on an overside committee.
I mean, I remember from back in the CIA days

(20:33):
what the overside committee wants the overside committee is supposed
to get.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
That's a question that we're all asking and in my opinion, Buck,
just based on what I've witnessed, what I've heard, and
what I've personally seen over the last couple of months
as being in office, the SBI has some serious issues.
I mean, they have a goal, right now that's currently
leaking information to Hunter Biden about his own case that
the FBI is investigating. So I think that we're at

(20:58):
the point now where, you know, the Republican Party, although
we don't control Senate or the White House, we do
control the House, and you know, there has to be
some peece behind a lot of what's happening, because exactly
like you had mentioned, you know, these three letter agencies
seem to think that they're not held accountable to anyone,
and really the last line of defense for the American
people is Congress, and so they need to be held accountable.

(21:20):
We need to be subpoenaing all this information, and so
Representative Comer has been doing a good job on with
the help of Representative Jim Jordan, who's head of House Judiciary.
But right now, I mean, the more information that we
put out buck even just on those bank transactions that
I had outlined earlier. I mean, MSNBC, CNN, and ABC

(21:40):
refused to even cover it. It was only Fox News
that was covering it. So they're really trying to suppress
this information. In my opinion, the corporate establishment media is
working with the DNC and some of these three letter
agencies to runcover for Biden.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Speaking to Congressoman Ana Paulina Luna of Florida and Congressoman
Hunter Biden, Clay and I talked about this a lot.
He still thinks that they may drop real charges, not
some deferred prosecution, pays a fine, make the whole thing
go away, but that there'll be a real charge against

(22:15):
Hunter Biden based on what you're seeing, the information that
you've seen already. Do you think that's possible? And also,
how could there not be unless the system is corrupt.
I think that's the question. A lot of people are
asking him. If you get paid millions of dollars you
don't declare you don't pay taxes on it. I thought
that was kind of a big problem.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
It is a big problem, and I don't think that
we will have any charges brought until, you know, we
have a new Republican president. And unfortunately, that's what it's
coming down to, because many of these people that are
appointed are indeed appointed because of their political leanings and
support of that administration. And right now, exactly like you
had stated, I mean, there's so much information on Hunter Biden,

(22:54):
and yet they're refusing to act, just like the SBI
had this information about Joe Biden, and they've had had
it since twenty sixteen previously, and they chose to sad
on that they had it in twenty twenty. They chose
to stad on it and they're not doing anything with it.
So they have the evidence, they have the testimony of
people that are bringing it forward of not just the

(23:15):
human source, but there's multiple whistleblowers that have come forward
about the Biden family and about Joe Biden specifically. And
it's really interesting because one of our best whistle blowers
that actually had proof that Joe Biden and his family
was receiving illegal basically pay for play schemes, the dj

(23:35):
is now trying to charge as an illegal arms trafficker,
even though he's never sold or tried to broker any
deals with any for organizations for arms. So they are,
in my opinion, using their position to not just intimidate,
but to prevent people from coming forward with the threat
of ruining their lives.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
How do we get any accountability in the FBI? If
people ask me this question, Congresswoman, and they'll ask, usually
in the context of the intel community CIA, and I say, look,
you'd have to have leadership that would understand the institution
well enough that they would know how to change the culture.
But you'd also have to get rid of a lot
of people, a lot of programs, and cut a lot

(24:15):
of funding. Do you think there's stomach for that in
the next in the next Republican administration? You think that
from what you're hearing from some of your fellow members
of Congress on the Republican side, at least there would
be a willingness to do something about that. I mean,
I remember when Eric Holder was held in contempt when
he was Attorney General, right, I mean, you know, we
do what we can, but that's not going to change
that much.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Christ I think that it really depends on who the
president is. You know, in my opinion, we need a
fire breathing dragon who is really aggressive on foreign policy
and wants to actually, you know, do the right thing
and help end some of this corruption. I exactly like
you'd stated, you know, I think people in general, I'm
I'm frustrated. I know people are as well, because it's like, well,
we know this is happening, but like what's going to change?

(24:58):
And it's kind of you know, it feels like sometimes
a defeated perspective because it's just agreed tous what they're doing.
But you know, I think it's gonna really depends on
what happens next administration. I'm sure you saw what happened
with the debt negotiations, and I think and I voted
no against raising the debt ceiling for trillion because again,

(25:18):
like you had stated, cutting funding is a huge deal,
and yet it didn't seem like there was as aggressive
action towards some of these three letter agencies that could
have been there. And so I think that it is
people one holding your representatives accountable because it does matter.
You do have a voice, and your representatives will respond,
especially if people are calling in, you know. But also too,
it does depend on leadership, and that's why I think

(25:40):
twenty twenty four is gonna be so important.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
What do you think is the most important issue or
two that the Republican Congress under Speaker McCarthy's leadership can
realistically achieve between now and election day.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Well, I thought the first one was everything with the
debt ceiling, and that's kind of gone to pass. But
I think it's really going to be using these hearings
to hold people accountable I would love to see an
impeachment of my orcists and some of these bureaucruts have
their positions completely defunded, which is something that we can
do under the Wolden Rule. So I think that that's

(26:16):
really going to be something that you know, we're a
very slim majority, and it's projected. I think just kind
of with everything happening with members stepping down and whatnot,
that we'll probably have like a three person majority by September.
And so every single Republican in this conference is really
going to have to work together and have their voices
be heard, otherwise we won't get anything done. But it

(26:38):
is going to be interesting to kind of see, you know,
we are. I've never been so happy to have the
founding fathers engineer our country the way that they did
with the checks and balances. But I am so happy
that we're at least in the majority right now because
we can stop a lot of the bad legislation that
this administration is trying to push through.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Florida Representative Anna Paulina Luda, Congresswoman, thanks for being with us. Appreciated.
I always want to call her Anna, but you know, Congresswoman,
thank you, thank you very much. So here here we go.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
We have more information about the Biden crime family, but
we keep running into this roadblock.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I feel the frustration that a lot of you have.
And as I said, when I was seeing some of
our listeners out in Saint Louis last night and they're
asking me questions on stage, and then, you know, after
after we did our our live event, and I look
at them and they ask these questions, and I say,
I I hope we can change it. I don't know,

(27:39):
because I'm not going to say, oh, yeah, everything's gonna
be fine. You know, the three letter agencies there, they've
learned their lesson. They haven't learned their lesson. They haven't changed.
All they thought they had to do was waited out
under Trump. It's one of the most true things that
I ever heard about the State Department specifically. It's a

(27:59):
it's a joke, but I think it's really more a
mission statement than a joke, which is that presidents come
and go, but the State Department is forever. It's what
the bureaucrats there say. I don't know. I don't know
what jokes they make about the CIA. They're probably very
funny too, But point here is nothing changed, Nothing changed
in those institutions, not really, not at all. And these

(28:23):
are areas of our civic life where there has to
be some degree of good faith in operation. This is
why prosecutors and the Soros backed prosecutors, and the concerted
effort by Democrats to undo the rule of law in
these cities is so destructive because there's not a lot

(28:45):
you can do. When a prosecutor decides that he's not
going to or she's not going to enforce the law,
you can vote them out. And this is really what
we're talking about here. Well, okay, you can achieve political
power to try some reforms, but in the case of
a three letter agency, it's more than one individual that's
the problem. It's not just one Sorow's prosecutor. It's an

(29:06):
army of them, so to speak, that are embedded in
these places, and not just not just the you know,
the famous or the most famous of these three letter agencies,
c I, A, FBI. You know, they're in the EPA,
They're in DHS, they're they're all over the place. They're
in a whole range of these institutions. And how do

(29:28):
we clean things up, how do we make things better
in them? And I get asked this question, I say,
you would have to have a Congress and an executive
that was willing to do things that would be unpopular
with some folks in the moment. Oh my gosh, look
what you're doing. There's a there's a old again, another

(29:49):
old joke, but the fireman first strategy. You might have
heard of this before. It's whether you're gonna cut municipal funding.
You see variations of this all over the country. The
second you say, hey, can we can we cut this
program of that program says, oh no, you're you're that's
gonna result. You're gonna you're cutting the fire department, You're
cutting the police department. Right, Oh no, you can't do that.

(30:11):
None of us are gonna be safe. You see this
with the budget negotiations too. Every dollar of additional spending
beyond the preset spending is sacred. That's the approach the
Democrats take. It's it's maniacal, but it's effective. So you
would have to come in and say we are going

(30:31):
to we're gonna cut FBI funding, cut IRS funding. Democrats,
as you've noticed, they want to massively increase IRS funding.
That is not an accident. That's not incidental because the
funding of the IRS to make it the tax stazi

(30:52):
serves multiple purposes for them. They use it as a
weapon against their enemies all of a sudden, you know,
people are gonna get audited. Who are I don't know,
talk radio hosts, stuff like that, and also pushing for
even more revenue for an overtax population, and pushing even
more revenue out of the fifty percent of the population
that pays all of the taxes. That's the plant. That's

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Speaker 3 (33:04):
The voices of sanity in an Insane world, LADYE Travis said,
Buck Sexton, all.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Right, welcome back. We're gonna talk about the continued collapse,
the ongoing freefall, because it's freefall. CNN having a rough time,
as it deserves to. It really disgraced itself during the
Trump administration. The egos over there, starting with Zucker the

(33:36):
ousted head of CNN, who was conducting a longtime affair
with his number two at CNN. Sure she got the job.
There was no favoritism there at all. But you'll recall
they never could get over being called fake news. They
never could get past the ego blow of Trump saying

(33:59):
what was just true. I always also like to remind
everybody that the usage of fake news as a term
by Trump was response a response to what the Democrats
were doing. Democrats were to undermine the MAGA voters of

(34:21):
twenty sixteen saying they believe fake news online, as in,
you know, stories about you know, Hillary is actually a
lizard person from outer space. Oh.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Also, do we want to talk UFOs today or later
this week? I'm just putting that out I'm sitting here
and I'm open to anything.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I'm open to anything that has evidence. And some people
I really like and trust and I think are very smart,
are big UFO believers, and I need someone. We need
to get somebody on here. Could just may be So
where are we with this exact the UFO thing? Anyway,
We'll talk more about that, but back to I'm just

(35:04):
putting that out there because I'm with you solo for
the next couple of days. Clay's on a couple's retreats
with the missus and some friends, and he's taken some
days off to rest recoup, and they'll be back in
action with us on Monday. So I'm gonna be with
you a few days. I think we should talk about
UFOs a little bit. It's getting all this attention. I
sit here as a Hey team, Was it Molder or

(35:28):
Scully who was the skeptic? I never watched enough of
the X Files. I should probably go back Scully. So
I'm is that the Is that the lady I'm apparently,
you know, breaking news? I'm the lady here. Yeah, I'm Scully.
I'm Scully in this one. I don't see the UFO thing.
I don't know. I will tell you this. I don't

(35:49):
know if my family's listening to this at all. My
family is split on this one. My immediate family were
split on this one. There are a couple of skeptics,
and there are some there are some molders, there are
some two believers about the UFO thing. And I sit
here and I go, what am I missing? You know,
if it make.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
The little flying saucer appear somewhere, and I don't even
care if little green men get out, or if it's
even just like Amiba's under a microscope, but just show
me the show me the UFO and I saw of
You are probably thinking I'm crazy because there's all the
dots on the screens and stuff and others.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
You think, yeah, of course, Buck. It's amazing, isn't it,
this debate that we're having over a UFOs. Because right
there's a guy who came forward, Oh yeah, producer Rally
telling me in New York City, the sky because of
the fires in forest fires in Canada, the air quality
in New York City is the worst in the whole country.
Right now. I'll tell you when I was in uh

(36:45):
China back in twenty nineteen, so right before the I
was in I was in China right before the pandemic,
and I was there for I don't know a week.
We can change and you'd see to the pollution. I
was in Shanghai, and the whole sky and everything from

(37:06):
just the pollution gathered. It was really dystopian, unsettling. And
I thought a lot about China was very dystopian. I'll
just add that I thought this is not gonna this
is not heading to a happy place everybody. But that's
not a surprise. But New York City's what's up?

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Oh Pence? So what I'm pretty sure Mike is saying,
all hell's breaking loose because Pence Pence has announced. So
now you know the skies. It is a little bit
like in Ghostbusters, right when the skies turned like what
was it purple or something? And because the key Master
and Gozer and all that. So Pence is Pence has announced.
We played some of that announcement for you. See it.

(37:49):
Oh we do. If you're a Pence. We have some
Pence people who have called in. Please stay with me.
I will get you. I just want to talk about
the CNN thing for a second. Because I know there
have to be some Pence people out there. I also
note that there are a fair amount of they are
a fair amount of people that seem really really anti Pence.

(38:13):
I would like to hear from them too. I'm Republicans,
so I know, I know there are people that think
Mike Pence is great and he's their candidate, and some
of them have already called in. So we've we've got
we've got proof of life on that one, right, we
know they exist, and I also I'm curious to hear
for anyone who feels very strongly against Mike Pence, because
I would guess that for a lot of the GOP

(38:37):
bass right now and for a lot of you, this
is my guest. I could I could be off Pence
is just not the guy for the moment, and so
him running, you know, you think it's gonna be a
little bit like Nikky Haley running or you know you're
not deeply anti and you're not pro you're just kinda

(38:58):
meh whatever about it. That's my guess. I could be wrong.
So that's why I put it out to you, and
I want to know. But back to ceing n of
the fake news controversy, from the very beginning. So they
were saying fake news. Trump turned it around on them,
and he really forced a journalistic self immolation over at CNN.
I mean, they just did they they lit their own

(39:20):
building on fire. They destroyed it as a as a temple,
as a monolith of supposed journalism. CNN was gone. It
turned into the weber Jim Acosta and although oh he wasn't.
He lost his White House hard pass. Oh, the First
Amendment is dead.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
Jim Acosta has to show an ID and check in
before he gets access to the West Wing, which a
lot of people don't have access to.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
But you know the whole thing, right, and you saw
all these different hosts who were supposedly giving you the news,
who were really just boring opinion hosts reading off a
prompter who don't have much to say other than Trump Hitler. Well,
that in the post Trump era predictably resulted in the

(40:08):
professional defenestration of a number of senior CNN figures. No,
most don't bleek Jeff Zucker and then Chris Cuomo. Bro
Cuomo was like, hey, like, what do you mean I
can't advise my brother, No, not when you're going to
be reporting on your brother and doing interviews with him
at night. That's and not telling the audience about it

(40:29):
that that could be kind of an issue. Thank you.
Defenestration want to go with that as word of the day,
crazy historical fact. Defenestration of Prague. You know, those guys lived.
I'm pretty sure it was because there was a manure
cart under the window something like that. Someone could fact
checking on that one. But the guys who were defenestrated,
which then led to massive warfare throughout Europe. But they

(40:52):
lived that even though they were thrown out the window.
So CNN had this whole problem, and it was because
Trump broke them. I mean, he just spiritually emotionally defeated
CNN as an entity that is I think beyond dispute
at this point, because to go against him, they decided
that there were no rules and they exposed to every

(41:14):
They exposed themselves for everyone to see as abject partisan hacks. Okay,
that is CNN destruction number one. CNN then tried to
limp along and do a redo with this guy, Chris
licked the big piece in the Atlantic, which, if you

(41:35):
want to know what b minus students from Northeastern lib
schools and coastal coastal universities. If you want to know
what they read or pretend to read, it's The Atlantic.
They read one article from it once a month, maybe
second and say, I read the Atlantic, But I did

(41:57):
read the Atlantic, So I'm admitting that to all of you.
So I could read this are And it was a
big profile with a lot of access to the head
of CNN. And what was interesting was that, first off,
it makes clear CNN destruction two point zero was you
guessed it, Trump's town hall, the Trump town hall. They

(42:19):
just lost their minds over there, all the different anchors,
they were all crying about it and how could we
have platformed him? And the fact that you had all
these pro Trump people in the audience and Caitlyn Collins
get steamrolled to the whole thing, and so much so
that he Chris licked this guy who came over from
He was at Morning Joe, and then he was at

(42:42):
the Cold No, not the Colbert what's the Late Show
with Colbert whatever? That is, right, Stephen Colbert Show. And
then he moved over to take over CNN. It didn't
last much more than a year. This is why he
didn't last though. This I don't know. I don't know
this guy never. I never talked to him. I talked
to Jeff Zucker a bunch of times when I was
over as a contributor at CNN, before I realized they

(43:04):
had all completely lost their minds and hated Republicans and
any Republican in the Trump era who still was going
on CNN. I was like, you're just getting You're just
getting punched in the face. There's no point. The audience
hates you, they're not listening, the anchors hate you, they
all despise you. So that's I turned down a job
at CNN without a job in TV because Trump had

(43:24):
just won the election. They wanted me to stay around,
and I said, no, I'd rather just do my own thing,
thank you, because I was pro Trump. I voted for him.
I was so psyched that he had won. And I
was like, I don't I don't want to go on
CNN so they can be.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
Like, so like explain to us, like why you think that,
like voting for Hitler is not voting for Hitler.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
You know, I just didn't really need that in my
day to day. But Chris Slick, this guy ended up
sounding not that crazy. Here's from the article. I think
he's a lib, but he's not totally insane, he said,
apparently to CNN staff, do not virtue SignAll, tell the truth,
ask questions, getting at the truth, not collecting facts for

(44:05):
one side or collecting facts for another side. Ask the
tough questions. It's an incredibly sensitive, divisive issue of when
there's a Venn diagram the country can agree on if
we get there with the facts. Yeah, this guy is
gone because he showed up at CNN and he was like,
everybody knows, did this place turn into a laughing stock

(44:27):
and a partisan, you know, clown show. Can we at
least get back to some basic reality? And CNN, with
its collective Biden voting, Hillary and Obama loving voice, shouted out, no,
we shall not return to the facts, sir, you shall
be fired. So that's what CNN did, and it's because

(44:48):
the Trump town hall. Two times, two times, CNN has
fallen victim to the Trumpster. So that is what happened.
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is Buck. I'm rocking at solo today and holy smokes,

(46:52):
I am getting inundated with photos from the Big Apple,
New York City in golf in a orange haze because
of these Canadian Thanks Canada, these Canadian wildfires and the
photos are really stark stuff. I mean it looks it

(47:17):
looks a little bit like what you would think the
atmosphere on Mars might be or something if you were
to be walking around. Kind of reminds me of the
Great smog of London of nineteen fifty two. I'm sure
if you're a watcher of the Crown and somebody who
watches that series, you would know about the great smog

(47:38):
of London in nineteen fifty two. But it's a bit
like that in terms of what it looks like outside
of New York City. So I hope it just passes quickly.
I'm friends and family are telling me they're kind of
avoiding going outside. One of our producers, Greg and New
York City says that it even makes your eyes water
a little bit when you're outside. It's not good. So

(48:03):
I hope that'll all get cleaned up. I can assure you.
The printing presses, so to speak, or getting fired up
with articles about how this is climate change, climate change,
So how is it client it's a fire with wind
that has blown the smoke from the fire south because

(48:24):
of a very big fire or series of fires. Well
they'll say that you know why the fire happened because
they're the grass or you know, the not fauna, the flora.
You know, the plants and things were dry because oh
everything's more dry because of climate change. Usually, the most

(48:45):
I think the most common cause of forest fires is human,
meaning people light the fire, either on purpose or by accident.
But they'll there'll be articles about the climate change situation
and how that ties into this. In fact, one of
my constant frustrations. I do like to watch the occasional
Nature program. You know, I've always since I was a

(49:07):
little kid. My mom could even attest to this. I
I think I wrote in the first grade that I
want to be an animal conservationist. When I grew up,
I don't even know how to spell conservationists, but I
had learned the term from watching so many National Geographic specials.
I had all of them on VHS. I had the
National Geographic on Jimpanzees, the National Geographic on Sharks, the

(49:29):
National Geographic some of you know what I'm talking about.
They actually had a pretty great series back in the day.
And this is before you could use drones and automatic
cameras for everything, so the photographers had to get up
close and it was you know, the footage was a
little bit more exciting because now, I mean, you know,
they they basically attach a GoPro to a great white
shark's head and you know, you see everything that's going on.

(49:49):
But back in the day, photographers had to do a
little more. Why am I telling you about animals? I
actually just ran myself so far off the tracks that
I could even remember animal conservationist. Oh that I can't win.
I did this to myself last night at Saint Louis too.
I went off a tangent of a tangent, and I
had to ask some of the front row what was

(50:10):
my main thesis here? And they reminded me and I
stayed on track. I was fine, But you can't watch
any any programming National Geographic Style, uh, you know, Earth
and these things on Netflix without getting a lecture on
climate change. At some point, the voice over will be like,
but what is really causing the destruction of the you know,

(50:33):
double quested cormorant? Climate change? He said there here, like
really really, Yeah, sure that's what's causing It's always it's
always climate change. Yeah, So they'll be writing about that,
I am sure, in the next twenty four hours. But
how there's some somehow tied to it. But yeah, it's
it's worse today than it is yesterday. Everyone's thawing me

(50:53):
New York cities and in rough shape Saint Louis. Speaking
of cities, I was there last night, and it was
great to go check it in and hang out with
our affiliate there in Saint Louis. Appreciate everybody listening, and
I did a live event and it was interesting to
me because it was my first time in city limits.

(51:14):
The only time I had been in the Saint Louis
area before was actually an interview Mike Pence as part
of the Hill TV project at the Hill dot com
that I launched a few years ago. I was a
host there, but I went to interview Mike Pence and
I went right from the airport to some venue outside
the city. So I never really experienced Saint Louis at all.

(51:37):
So it was my first time being in that city,
and as you know, I had the experience. I'm hitting
the Midwest tour a little bit more of these days,
I've realized as a New Yorker, I've spent obviously a
ton of time in the Northeast and in New York
and DC. Now I live in Florida, I've spent a
lot of time in the South for one family eye

(52:01):
family in the South in Virginia, but also some of
the government work that I did took me to Virginia
and other places, military facilities where I would spend weeks
on end, and then then the West Coast. I spent
a lot of time in California. I haven't spent as
much time in the Midwest as I would like to,
so I'm going to be spending a little more time.
And I went to Chicago last year for the first time,

(52:22):
and I had that experience where I turned to carry
at the Silver Bean in Millennium Park and I said,
is it really I wonder if the crime here is
really as bad as everyone says. And then in about
an hour and a half later, there was a fatal
shooting broad daylight right next to where we were. Right
there at the Bean. Sixteen year old shot and killed
another sixteen year old, and I said, okay, oh yeah, no,

(52:46):
the violence here is bad, really bad, not even limited
to certain areas of the city that need additional attention.
So I was at Saint Louis and I'm excited to
I see the arch and I'm excited to check out
the greatest barbecue and all the different things that Saint
Louis has to offer. And I get into the I'm

(53:06):
going to this station radio station. I get to the
Uber and I say to the gentleman who's driving me,
we're chatting up. I'm chatting hi up a little bit.
We're talking because I always like to get a little
bit of a sense of, you know, what's going on
in the city. So he said, oh, we've got great
baseball here and everything else. And I said, so, uh, well,
what should I know? Where should I go? And he says, well,
first of all, don't go out walking by yourself at

(53:28):
night downtown. I look at him, I'm like, wait a second,
we're in we're in downtown, but right now you're telling
me that you don't think it's your You're a lifetime
Saint Louis, and you're telling me you don't think it's
safe for me to walk around in the downtown of
the city at night. And he's like, I wouldn't do it.
I said, okay, that's not and then I went I

(53:49):
saw more. I saw a whole bunch of folks last night.
You know, hundreds of people came out and we we
got to chat, and they all told me one after
another when I shared this experience of them as they said, yeah, yeah,
that's Unfortunately the reality of that city now it has
become and it has been for years. It is very
dangerous now. They mostly, pretty much all of them, I

(54:11):
think I met in person, live in the suburbs, and
it's nice and it's quiet, it's pretty, and they have land,
and you know, they're they're so so for them. This
city isn't a day to day problem for them, but
they're very aware of the fact that Saint Louis has
a very high homicide rate. Depending on the year and
the numbers you use, it's usually in the top three

(54:32):
for shootings in the country. I think it might have
even been number one in the last couple of sometime
in the last couple of years, it's usually Saint Louis.
I think New Orleans is usually on that list as well.
Baltimore is always pretty high on that list. There are
a number of these cities, and I just remember thinking
to myself, here, I'm I'm a visitor to this place.

(54:53):
I'm all excited to be here. I'm excited to spend
some time with with Missourians and talk to them about
what they think is going on in the country and
just have that experience and to hear that the largest
city in the state has this problem. To me, it's

(55:14):
just a shouldn't this be an all hands on deck situation? Right,
shouldn't this be the primary focus of the city, you know,
city legislature, the mayor's office, that everybody. Because it's a
great city. It's right of the Mississippi River, it's got
great food, it's got great sports. I'm like the you

(55:35):
know you fix, They've got all these big employers. I
learned a lot. I always find it whenever I go somewhere.
The first time I approach it like a CIA officer,
you know, area familiarization, Right, I approach it, but I
just want to know as much as I can about
the place in a short time, so I have some
sense of what's going on. And there's so much cool
stuff happening there. And this is the same thing. When

(55:56):
I was in Chicago, I had the same Now, I've
spent time in other cities that have high levels of violence,
and you know that's unfortunately there's a lot of similarities
that you experienced here. But I'm in Chicago. I think
this is Chicago is beautiful. It is a beautiful city,
is a historic city, It has amazing food, it has

(56:17):
really cool culture. I'm like this place. I was also
there on a seventy five degree day, which everyone tells
me is you know, if you're going to see Chicago,
go in in seventy five degrees. But it was amazing.
But it has too high of a crime rate, and
it is the single biggest anxiety that I think the
residents their deal with day in and day out, and
certainly the same thing in Saint Louis. And I sit

(56:39):
here and I just say, what is it going to take?
What threshold has to be crossed? You know, they had
Kim Gardner was a Sorospack prosecutor. There she's out, they said.
The new prosecutor, I think is a little bit better,
the new sort of main city prosecutor. But what does
it take for some of these Democrat enclaves entirely controlled

(57:02):
by Democrats. You notice this is it's a recurring theme.
It's a recurring story. You have a major city, you
have a crime rate that is far too high, You
have far too many people, and disproportionately young black men
losing their lives to violence on the streets, and the
Democrat Party does what what is the answer to this?

(57:26):
They talk about racism in the police department and the
need for more community investment, This isn't fixing anything. Neither
of those things are fixing anything. And really, and the
first one about the racism in the police department is
just a distraction. It's meant to avoid dealing with the
real issue, which is how are laws being enforced? You know,

(57:48):
they told me that some of the residents again told
me that there are a lot of low level traffic
infractions that in downtown Saint Louis aren't observed at all,
meaning if someone just flies through a red light, they
won't pull them over. They don't care. Now, I don't
know if this is just their perception or if this

(58:10):
is almost administrative reality now with law enforcement there. I
do know that in Chicago you're not allowed to chase
somebody on foot really for a whole range of reasons.
So if a felon decides to run, the cops aren't
supposed to give chase. Well, that makes the in a
whole range of circumstances. It's not all circumstances, but that

(58:31):
makes it a lot easier to be a criminal, doesn't it.
Oh wait, there are the cops. Well, I'm going to
run and they're not going to be able to drive
after me, and they're probably not even going to be
able to chase after me on foot, because that's not
department policy. It sounds like that can't be true. But
these are the laws that have been and these are
the policies that have been implemented in these places. And

(58:52):
I just I put this out there because to me,
this should be one of the biggest issues, This should
be one of the biggest drivers or independent votes to
go to Republicans. The only answers Republicans who are going
to actually enforce the law. Everything else is noise. And
so I don't know what that means for Saint Louis

(59:12):
and for Baltimore, and for New Orleans and for these
these Democrat single party enclaves. But for the rest of
the country and in states where there's still some sanity
at the state legislative level, you have to just you
have to enforce the law, and that means all the
laws you have to I see this trend, this troubling

(59:34):
trend of people who when the police pull them over.
You've probably seen this on Instagram and it's on TikTok
all the time now, and they view it as a
game to just be as antagonistic to the police as
possible and refuse to obey any commands and dare them
to do something about it. This is a widespread attitude,
I'm telling you. You see, it's all over the internet. Now.

(59:56):
You know that the officer will say, you know, you
were speeding and your life you know, and your registration's expired,
and I need you to provide idea. They say, no,
I'm not going to do it. The officer says, come on,
you know, I'll pull you out of the car. No,
and maybe they start, you know, cursing at the officer
or whatever. That mentality, that stuff at the lower level

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is the foundation of the degradation of the rest of
the society around it through higher crime. The little stuff
turns into the big stuff when everyone thinks that they
can just well whenever thinks that the laws aren't going
to be enforced, the criminals take advantage of it. And
there's no answer from Democrats on this at all. Ending
mass incarceration was not an answer. It actually made things worse.

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Ending mass incarceration which didn't even really happen. But when
I when I go to these great American cities, whether
it's San Francisco or New York or Chicago, or Saint
Louis or wherever. And I see this playing out, it
is just so frustrating, and I almost wish that we

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could say, can we put aside all the rest of
politics for a second here, Libs, Democrats, can we sit
down and get serious. You have to enforce the law,
and you have to punish criminals who refuse to obey laws,
or else this never gets better, or else people are
going to be telling visitors to otherwise great cities. You

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can't walk around downtown at night by yourself. It's not safe.
That's just wrong. That's not where we should be in
twenty twenty three of the country, anywhere in this country.
And it really it is a question of political ideology,
and I'm just going to say it. It is the
fault of Democrats that this is where we are now.
Straight up, we all know it. So let's call it out.

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