December 1, 2023 • 44 mins
DeSantis-Newsom showdown. Should Santos have his day in court? Kirk Cameron on saving our kids. Brian Stelter cracks us up.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome everybody. Friday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show kicks off right now. I cannot believe it
is December, but here we are some big things to
talk to you about today. The Red state Blue state
throwdown last night, Ron DeSantis versus Gavin Newsom. Big props,
(00:26):
high five, and kudos to Sean Hannity for pulling it
all together there on Fox and getting these two guys together.
I watched the whole hour and a half of it.
I thought it was generally interesting. Clay and I are
going to break down both the substance of that exchange
and then some of the policy fights and disagreements that
came from it over the course of this hour with
(00:50):
all of you. Just also some news. Justice Santa Day
O'Connor passed away ninety three years old, passed away today,
So there's that first woman on the Supreme Court. And
we also have George Santos is now a former Republican
member of Congress, and I have some slightly uh well,
(01:13):
we'll see different sense of this, different analysis on this
than some people I think might have based on the
realities of what this means politically and the precedent that
it sets. But Clay, let's start if we can. If
we can, let's begin here with the biggest takeaways from
(01:36):
last night's debate, which are for me, Ronda Santis. I'll
start with this one. I thought Ronda Santis overperformed relative
to expectations based on what I've seen from him and
other debates. I think Gavin Newsome underperformed because he didn't
even manage to be fun evil Keanu. He kind of
(01:59):
turned into a slimy, disingenuous and kind of nasty lib politician.
So I mean, for me, it was a big win
for DeSantis just in terms of what it was. Will
it move the needle for eye or anything. I think
probably not. But what we saw was Ron de Santis,
(02:23):
I believe, more comfortable really going after a Democrat than
he is even his fellow Republicans on a debate stage,
and Gavin Newsom really with a very weak defense of
what he has done in his state.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I thought that Ron DeSantis slaughtered Gavin Newsom, and earlier
this week full disclosure, I thought I was wrong. I
thought Gavin Newsom would be very likable. I thought he
would come across as intelligent. I thought he would filibuster
the attacks. Remember, the facts are all on Ron DeSantis's side.
(02:59):
He has done a better job as governor of Florida
than Gavin Newsom has of California. And I thought from
the opening moment, DeSantis just massacred him. And I don't
know if you've seen this, Buck And by the way,
I'm curious to hear from our listeners out there eight
hundred and two eight two two eight eight two UH,
(03:19):
if they want to call in and be able to
react to what they saw.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
But I thought.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
DeSantis came out and immediately put Gavin Newsom on his
back foot with UH, with this line, if we play
cut six. This happened in like the first five minutes
of the debate. UH, and DeSantis went right after the
fact that Gavin Newsom's own father in law had left
California for Florida. Listen to cut six. And I thought
(03:49):
this basically epitomized the entirety of what the debate went
went and sounded like for both men.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So I was talking to a fella who had made
the move from California to Florida, and he was telling
me that Florida is much better govern safer, better budget,
lower taxes, all this stuff, and he's really happy with
the quality of life. And then he paused and he said, oh,
by the way, I'm Gavin Newsom's father in law. So
we do count Gavin's in laws as some of the
(04:16):
people that have fled California and come to the state
of Florida.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And so from that moment, Buck, I just I.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Didn't really think that there was any kind of reaction
at all from Gavin Newsom. He tried to throw punches back.
I thought that Sean Hannity did a really good job
of integrating all the different all the different facts, and
the Gavin Newsom wasn't able to filibuster and respond very well.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Well, you know, Gavin Newsom, when he was presented with
things like CDC data, just came up with different data
that he thought he could sign an every single hold
on a second, are you saying that the CDC data
on this issue is false? Because if you're just going
to pull statistics that no one has vetted or checked
or has access to, and I think fake or you know,
(05:04):
I think he was being dishonest in the way that
he did it intentionally. So that creates a problem for
the debate. I mean, for me, Gavin Newsom is addicted
to misdirection and lies and being disingenuous and being dishonest.
That's really his skill set, and he I think he
(05:27):
started to become a little bit surly pretty early on
in the debate because you know, what he tries to
do is and this we called an advance. I said
this was going to happen. This absolutely did happen. He goes, well,
California has the fifth largest economy in the world in
California has all this great stuff. Yeah, no one's saying
that California isn't an amazing state, you know, in terms
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of the geography and the history and the wealth creation
over time. The debate is what is the Democrat government
of that state doing and what are the effects and
doing in recent years? Or are the effects and what
has Florida's government been doing and what are those effects? Right? So,
because as I said, yes, it takes a long time
(06:08):
for the iceberg, so to speak, to melt ruining California
is a multi year process. You know what we saw
this claim in New York City. When de Blasio took over,
he was handed a very safe, booming New York. It
was doing phenomenally well. And for the first few years
it was New York's doing so great and never kept saying, well,
(06:29):
the trend is in the wrong direction. To Blasio, the
trends and by the time he finished being mayor, guess
what the city had gone through a big increase in crime,
a lot of people leaving, et cetera. Same thing's true
with California. You know, you can't tell me what you inherit.
You know, don't tell me that what you inherited was great. Yeah,
we know that what has he done to it? And
(06:49):
I think that was where he really started to fall apart.
I mean, on the issue of crime, for example, he
just ignored some of the He just ignored the data
which shows that violent assault per cap is much higher
than it is compared to Florida. And you know, I
think that this was good for people to see, but
it's also a little bit disheartening because the fact that
(07:10):
anyone could live in California as a Democrat and think
that Gavin Newsom isn't doing a terrible job is shocking
to me. No, I agree.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Look three other things that particularly I thought stood out.
One the poop map, the graphic that DeSantis pulled out
of San Francisco and basically said, the only time you
will even clean up San Francisco is when you actually
when you actually have the Chinese premiere coming.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I thought that was great.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I thought the graphic language in books, where DeSantis pulled
out examples of things that are in elementary schools that
they're trying to take out, I thought that was particularly compelling.
And the other thing I would say was for those
of you who didn't watch it, at the end, both
men said, oh, let's continue. Ron DeSantis said he would
(08:04):
keep going. Gavin Newsom said he would keep going. Politico
is now reporting that during that commercial break, because I
was like, oh, I guess this thing's going to continue.
During that commercial break, Gavin Newsom's wife came out and said, no,
this is over. And if your wife throws in the
white towel on you, I would just say that's a
(08:26):
sign that objectively watching this thing, she is not liking
how it is going.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I thought Gavin Newsom seemed unprepared. I thought from a
debate perspective, he seemed unchallenged, and I think this is where,
being in a one party state, he's not used to
actually being confronted with facts showing that he did a
bad job. Because so many in the media exists to
propagandize for the Democrat Party in the state of California.
(08:55):
I thought as a result, he was not prepared to
actually have to deal with facts that were uncomfortable and
did not support the narrative that he wanted to sell.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I want to get back into this. We'll talk about
a lot of the specifics here, including on crime, immigration,
the economy. The abortion question got some attention last night.
We'll dive into all that this hour. We want to
hear from you. Eight hundred two two two eight eight two.
I also do want to share my sense to the
Santos thing. But Clay, you know you're up in New
York City right now, still my home, it'll always be
(09:25):
my hometown, and you're doing something really cool. I wanted
you to tell everybody about it. Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
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gala event. They are going to be nine hundred people
in New York City tonight helping to raise money for
the widows of first responders, fallen police officers are our
military that have lost their lives to help them be
able to deal with the loss of their loved ones.
(09:51):
This is one of the biggest fundraising events they do
all year, and I'm going to be up on the
stage helping to MC along with Pete Hegseth, along with
Lawrence Jones from Fox News. They brought Cole Hauser, who
plays Rip from Yellowstone. He is donating Yellowstone I think
maybe one of the best characters on TV period. He
and Beth Dutton one of the most popular couple costumes
(10:15):
for the last several years for Halloween. I've never met
him before, but Cole Hauser is donating his time Drew
Brees because they all recognize how important it is. And
you know, thirty eight thousand veterans are experiencing homelessness right
now across our nation as winter is here. That's simply unacceptable,
and Tunnel the Towers is committed to not only helping
(10:37):
the widows but also all of these homeless veterans. What
Frank Siller is doing is flat out incredible. And I
know everybody's busy during the holiday season. I wanted to
come up here and donate my time to help them
raise more money, but I also want to keep asking
you guys to give and help us continue to do
incredible work for this foundation.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So look, here's what I'd like for you to do.
If you are so.
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Join us by the way, We'll take your calls and
we come back. Reacting to this Ron DeSantis going up
(11:58):
against Gavin Newsom the debate, was it as much of
a massacre as both Buck and myself thought?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Buck, I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I thought Gavin Newsom would come off and be incredibly
to use your word, ole, agonus and oily and unctuous,
but also kind of a guy that you might want
to have a line with, maybe at the French Laundry. Instead,
I thought he got his ass kicked. We'll take some
of your calls. We'll react to that. Santos out. We've
also got Jeremy Boring and Ben Shapiro from The Daily Wire.
(12:28):
They've got a new movie out that I've got a
small cameo in. And I believe and I correct, Kirk
Cameron is going to be in studio. I'm not gonna lie, Buck.
I'm super excited to get to meet Kirk Cameron in person,
given the fact that I grew up loving the television
show Growing Pains, Mike sever one of the stars of
my childhood, and Kirk Cameron will be here. Loaded show
(12:49):
for you Friday edition as we roll you into the weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Here on Clay and Buck. Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton
voices of Sanity an Insane World.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
OO. Welcome back again out number two Clay Travis buck
Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
We are rolling through the Friday edition of the program,
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start off the first hour speaking a great deal about
the Ron de Santis Verroun, the larger context there, and
the battle that has ensued as a result of everything
that happened there. I don't think necessarily anything is going
(14:07):
to change in the immediate term in terms of what's
going to happen in the Republican primary. But I do
think that to the extent people had been waiting for
Ron DeSantis to really show himself as a bonafide debate assassin.
I thought this was the first time that we saw
him really take somebody apart, and I think Gavin Newsom
(14:28):
emerged from that battle definitely the worse for wear Okay, buck,
we said we were going to talk about this. Santos,
George Santos from a New York toss up congressional district
outside the city a little bit, has officially been voted
out of Congress. This is the what'd you say, the
sixth person, or is it the seventh whatever, So it's
(14:50):
the sixth member of the House of Representatives, the twenty
first overall from the entirety of both Houses of Congress
to be expelled. But seventeen of the twenty one in
total were expelled for being in the Confederacy. So the
Civil War. This is not a very common thing that's happening.
(15:11):
The last one was James Traffican, if I remember correctly,
to be expelled from the House, and that happened I
don't know, twenty some odd years ago. And this is
a toss up district.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Only two House members have been expelled since the Civil War.
Michael Myers, not the assassin, although you have a decision
that killing many people on behalf of a if you
went around terrorizing people with a kitchen knife, you probably
should be expelled from Congress because but no different. Michael
Myers removed in nineteen eighty after being convicted of bribery
(15:44):
in the abscam scandal. And then, as you mentioned, Clay
James trafficant of Ohio in two thousand and two convicted
of bribery, racketeering, tax evasion, other felonies. But can I
jump into this like what Yeah, right, there's two sides
of this. There's the ethical legal component and then there's
the political. I think we start with the ethical legal here.
(16:05):
So now we have you'll notice with all these other
people there was no question about guilt, and so now
we have punishment before a guilty verdict. Yeah, you know,
sentence first sentence, first verdict later or whatever. It's not
what she says. The Queen in uh, you know, Alice
in Wonderland.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
This is this is yes, and this is also just
a function of what social media does. I think right
we no longer can wait for court decisions in order
to make results on them. So yes, the precedent now
is what you're saying. This is what troubles me because
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
But I did actually a little a little deep dive
podcast on Santos with our friend Ryan gerd Dusky. So
if you subscribe to Claim Book podcast feed, we get
into it because he knows him, he knows Ryan, and
Ryan knows him, and and yes, Ryan says that he
is a compulsive liar, that that Santos is a compulsive liar.
All that is true, But why why not wait until
(17:01):
he is you know, if he's convicted of federal crimes,
are going to prison? Yeah, you remove him from Congress,
But shouldn't he have his day in court? I know
people are saying, oh, but he's so clearly guilty. Well
hold on a second, everybody, what does this leave open?
What is the precedent this sets going forward? And you know,
we all saw what they did to Kavanaugh. You know,
(17:22):
the the evidence free allegations to stop a Supreme Court justice.
You don't think they'll come up with something you don't
think they'll be able to concoct what seems like, oh
my gosh, overwhelming, you know, either through testimony or whatever,
to take down a Republican at some point in the future.
The whole, the whole system we have is premised on
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you should have your day in court, and you should
be able to make a defense of yourself, no matter
how absurd it may be, Right, Clay, you're the lawyer. Yeah, No,
I think that's right. This undermines that. So I think
there is a principle here that's being and we haven't
gotten in the politics out of this, which I want
to when Senator Menendez and why is and he being expelled?
But I mean, don't don't you see this same way?
This sets a I don't care what you think about Santos,
(18:03):
this sets a troubling precedent.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Well, and you just hit on something that I think
points that the precedent is not being evenly applied, which
is Democrat New Jersey Senator Robert Menendez, who is accused
by the federal government a far more serious I would say,
charges than anything Santos did. Santos, to me, Buck was
kind of just an incompetent liar who exaggerated like almost
(18:32):
fabulous tales and oftentimes to no particular benefit, right, like
lying about being a member of a for instance, volleyball
team in a men's volleyball team in New York.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I don't even remember college at city University. I know,
I've spent some time at the various city universities for
different reasons. In New York. At some of the Qunity locations,
volleyball is not one of the primary sports. Like you're
usually not on the on the QUNY croquet team either.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, and either way, nobody voted for him because of
that lie. Right, he is a like almost irredeemable in
the sense like fabuloust and liar, but a lot of
his lies didn't actually benefit him or detract from his
ability to be a congressman in the same way that
the Alley Gain looked.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
They said that Robert.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Menendez sold his influence to a foreign country in order
to personally benefit.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Clay He's already Menendez went to federal federal trial once
before criminal trial on on you know, basically you know,
bribery charges. The Melgan I believe was the guy he
was tied to the eye surgeon. I think Trump commuted
or pardoned him. Am I right about this? Might have
pardoned him, but there was some someone checked that one
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for me. But he faced trial before and it was
a hung jury, I believe, right. I think it wasted
not to try him again. I think, or well, hungary
and then mistrial is that how it goes, right, and
so they like to not to try him again. Now
they're trying him again on selling, as you said, giving
secrets basically or you know, a sensitive information a foreign
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country if we can. This is the politics side of it. Everyone.
If Republicans say we have to kick out Santos because
he's so guilty, Menandos look pretty guilty to me and
I guar there's not even a conversation among Democrats that
they're going to kick out. Even though they got Democrat
governor New Jersey, they're not going to lose one of
their senators until they absolutely have to. Not only do
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they have a Democrat senator, his wife is running to
replace Menndez, which has not gotten a lot of attention
so far. There are many different I think three or
four different people running, and it's likely that Menindez is
going to get replaced. And that's why I think you're
right here.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I also don't think Menindez should have to step down
based on allegations.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Again, these are allegations.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Voters next year, in eleven months, we're going to make
a decision on Santos. So now my understanding is Buck,
you're going to end up with an election in February
or March, and then you're going to follow it up
again with another election in November and the primary season,
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Santos wasn't going to even be the representative for Republicans
going forward.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Can I blow your mind right now? Clay? You're ready
for this. I don't know if you've even seen this.
You see what Fetterman said about this issue on the view.
You already had to give Fetterman and I did too,
a high five on saying things on Israel that made
perfect sense to us. Yes, you know, Israel's right to
defend it self, amasa's terrorist entity, full stop. Fetterman's been
good on Israel. I'm not going to trash Fetterman, you
know what he says on things, just because I think
(21:38):
on other things he's, you know, way off base here
he is on the Santos and Menendez issue. Listen to
twenty five.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
I'm not surprised. But to me, I think the more
important picture is that we have a colleague and in
the Senate that actually does much more sinister and serious
kinds of things. Senator Menendez.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
He needs to go.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
And if you are going to expel Santos, how can
you allow to somebody like Menendez to remain in the Senate.
And you know, Santos's kind of lies, we're almost you know,
funny and like you know, he you know, landed on
the moon and it got kind of stuff. Whereas whereas
you know, you know, I think, you know, Menendez, I
think is really a senator for Egypt, you know, not
(22:20):
in New Jersey. So I really think he needs to.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Go play everything he says there? Do you disagree with
a single word?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
He sounds like me, he almost, I'd like, Look, I
disagree with the precedent that he wants to follow, and
that in that I don't think we should get rid
of Santos, and I don't think we should get rid
of Menindez.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I think we should wait, let voters do it. But
the men stuff is more serious, more serious, and at
least he's trying to be consistent. Other Democrats are just
making it up as they go.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
He's standing on the principle that he thinks you should
be removed in situations such as these, which I disagree with.
But the logic under which he is making his argument
is the same that we just made on this show.
And I can't believe I'm saying this, but Fetterman is
actually rational and consistent in a way that very few
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politicians are able to be rational and consistent, even if
I sometimes disagree with him, And I look, I think
that the idea that Pennsylvania elected this guy is is absurd.
But he's one hundred percent right on Israel, and he's
at least willing to stand on principle. He just made
the same argument we did on Santo's Compared to Benindez.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Has there been a Democrat senator who has racked up
two high five moments on this show over the past year.
I'm just saying more wins for sanity than other Senate
Now you could say that's an incredibly low bar and
they're all crazy, okay, But I mean he's better than
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some of the rest so far, it seems, Which is
what does that tell you? I mean, yes, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
And by the way, speaking of what does that, I
tell you, you know what, it's funny, buck. I was
yesterday talking to my fifteen year old and he was
trying to track down his thirteen year old brother. And
you know what we're trying to do. We're trying to
keep our kids from getting cell phones too early. So
we have said you have to be fourteen year years old.
My boys, you have to be fourteen years old until
(24:23):
you can get a cell phone. And some of you
out there are like, man, Clay, that's too early. Others
of you out there are like, oh my goodness, how
did you wait till fourteen? My fifteen year old called
me on his pure talk phone and he said, Dad,
this is ridiculous. I said, what, what's ridiculous?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Fox?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
He said, you have to get your brother, my brother
a cell phone. I can't find him and we're supposed
to be getting in the car together and I don't
know where he is. He was supposed to be meeting
me on their campus where their school is, and he's
not at basketball practice and I can't find him anywhere
and I can't track him down. He said, you have
to get your brother a phone, and I said, I
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can't believe that you're actually arguing in favor of your
brother getting something, because usually you always say, as every
kid does, I'm getting treated unfairly. You know why he's
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And by the way, we come back, the Biden administration
has got their Christmas decorations up yet, even those you
can't rely on. Believe it or not. We're gonna tell
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Claye Travins said, Buck Sexton, All right, team special treat
here on Clay and Bock. Actor Kirk Cameron is with
Play in New York in studio. You'll know him from
Growing Pains, but also the books that he's been writing
and the efforts he's been he's been giving to try
to make sure that kids are actually reading good stuff
and not the some of the filth that's in schools.
(26:57):
His latest book is The Fox, the Fair and the
Scar Invention Scare, which sounds very interesting. Uh, Clay, I'm
gonna let you take it away with Kirk there in
studio because you guys are right there. But you know, obviously,
last night the desantist stuff with the books got a
lot of people's attention.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, you've got a bunch of different copies in front
of us right now here in New York of books
that are and people who are watching this on video
can see it.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
But these are books.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I want you to tell people out there who may
not be paying attention. These are books that are like,
for instance, this one right here is called I want
to read this Welcome.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
To Saint Hell, my trans tine misadventure.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
This book right now, and I'm holding this up, but
I mean, I'm kind of looking at it. I'm kind
of in disbelief. This would be marketed to what age kid,
based on your understanding, eight to twelve, eight year old
kids would be able to read. I second, I have
a third grader. This is crazy to me, my trans
teen misadventure like this would be marketed to an eight
(27:59):
year old. Second, a great kid.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
And what's in it is so Lewde and so obscene
that when we pasted one of the pages on a
Facebook ad, Facebook community standards band it and shut it
down for posting obscenity that violates their community standards.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And that's for adults.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
This is a book for children. And this is.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Why I'm on this mission right now to give parents
and grandparents an opportunity to engage and stop merely complaining
about the bad stuff and start creating the good paths
that we can go down and build a world for
our children where they've got hope and a future.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
And also, this is significant because you're not saying that
no one should ever be able to read a book
like this. You're just saying second graders shouldn't be exposed
to the idea of trans identity.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
But that's wild. For I mean, I've got a third grader.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
The idea that we would be teaching kids that young
that they are not the gender they think they are
is madness. Because kids that young, at that age, we're
gonna let them pick their gender.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
It's wild.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
It is wild. And what we're seeing is where do
we want to go with this?
Speaker 6 (29:15):
I mean, this is a brilliant wedge that will ultimately
separate children from their parents. And I think that is
one of the main goals when you sexualize children at
a young age and you get them to start questioning
basic fundamental building blocks of society, like am I a
boy or a girl?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
And I can change that.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
You are able to then peak their curiosity, take them
down a rabbit hole, and get them to trust in
communities that don't have their best interest in mind. And
then all of a sudden, the parents are the they're
the archaic people, and they can't be trusted, and they're
transphobe or their whatever fobe. And pretty soon you've got
seven hours a day with these kids all by yourself
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to train them into little marks lemmings to do exactly
what the state wants them to do. So, look, we
can either wind and complain or we can get in
the game and start moving the ball in the right direction.
That's why I have partnered up with Brave Books. I've
partnered up with Skytree Bookfairs to replace Scholastic and all
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of this harmful stuff and get helpful, wholesome books onto
the shelves of libraries and public schools and private schools
across the country.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
You know, Kirk I know that you've tried to go
to some libraries to read wholesome, uplifting and worthwhile books.
And this isn't an era of drag Queen Story Hour
and you know some of the trans agenda books and
things you mentioned that seems to be fine with libraries.
But you wanting to read nice, wholesome stuff. That's been
(30:51):
a problem sometimes at these libraries.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
What happened, Oh yeah, this has been going on for
the last year.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
I suppose if I just if I just busted out
my fish at Stockings, my mini skirt and heels and
showed up as you know, Kirk Dazzle Glamoroni, I'd have
been accepted with with open arms. But because I came
in and said, hey, how about we sing God bless America,
recite the Pledge of Allegiance, we thank God for giving
(31:18):
us such a special country, and let's read a book
about faith, hope and love. It was a hard no
in some libraries. Now other libraries were like, come on.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
We want you to come here. We don't like all
of this.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
Garbage that we're getting getting shoved down our throats. And
when they told me I couldn't come, and I reminded
them that this is America, this is called viewpoint discrimination
on their on their side, and that I would be
prepared to exercise my constitutional rights against them for the discrimination.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
They changed their mind.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
We showed up and three thousand parents and grandparents were
there to welcome us, flooding the library, making it the
most attended event in the history of these downtown libraries.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
In blue cities.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
So the narrative, the perception is not the reality. Boots
on the ground, people in the trenches, moms and dads
and grandparents want the stuff that leads to their children's
blessing and protection. And we've just got to not be afraid,
stand up and get into game. I mean, look what
Elon Musk is doing right now. Look how he is
championing free speech and telling these people to f off
(32:22):
if they want to try to buy his free speech
from him with money.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
You know, I'd use a different lexicon.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
But we need to have the same attitude of if
we trade our freedoms for safety, will end up with
neither because the government will come in and they will
shut down everything.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
And they're well underway.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I'm fascinated by your path here. A lot of people
out there listening are around mind in Buck's age, and
we grew up watching you on Growing Pains nineteen eighties television.
I like to show nineteen eighties movies to my kids.
There is a wholesomeness to them that doesn't necessarily seem
to exist in our culture today. Would you have ever believed,
(33:11):
working in Hollywood making a super popular show that twenty
five thirty years after that show you would be going
around trying to get people to read wholesome books, or
that it would even be necessary.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
No, never thought I'd be hanging out with two guys
like Buck and Clay on a radio program like this
talking about essential values, about first principles in the nation.
And in fact, you know, all of this is really
driven by my love for God and my love for
my family, which was really a foreign concept to me,
at least on the God stuff when I was on
(33:46):
Growing Pains, because I was an atheist at the time
and changed.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Why did you change? What happened in your life?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Well, yea, I can explain it so many different ways.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
But I met a really cute girl who invited me
to church, And not to devolve too far down, just
to say that I became a Christian for her because
I didn't. But what transpired was I believe God himself
opening my eyes through asking questions, getting great answers, hearing
the message that really captured my heart my mind and
(34:24):
went down a road that led me to believe that.
It took more faith for me to hang on to
my atheism blind faith to believe that God does not
exist than it did to believe that all of this
came as a result of a powerful, intelligent creator.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
So that's that was a big shift for me.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
So the fact that I'm here with you guys talking
about this stuff and pushing back the darkness, making inroads
for the for the kingdom of light, and establishing what's
good and right and beautiful for children.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Man, I couldn't be more thankful.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
And how do you think think you know, how do
you think the movement is going Kirk to create more
content specifically for children these days? That has to come
from more independent creators. You know, we're gonna have Daily
Wire guys on and now that's they're making a kind
of a mockumentary or you know, a film that's taking
on the trans issue that's not necessarily for kids. But
(35:20):
I think they've also done some children's books, and I
think Matt Walsh did a children's book, and they're trying
to create more of this content because you know, it
feels like for the for the average American, if you
believe in traditional values, if you believe in God, like
Disney has abandoned.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
You ondred percent.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
But you know, if we could go back and bring
Noah Webster back our founding fathers and John Adams and
George Washington and all the good guys and ask them
what's going the huge I imagine they would say something like,
Kirk clay Buck, you never should have depended on Disney
in the first place. You shouldn't be hanging your hat
on companies organization that are going to keep these values going.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
This has been entrusted to you as dads, as moms.
You've got to teach this stuff to your kids.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
And at the heart of the whole thing, you have
to understand that this thing called freedom is a gift
from God, and you've got to protect it, and you've
got to nourish it, and you've got to just.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Go for it with all of your heart. Kirk, we
really appreciate the time. We know how hard you are
working If people want to see more of your work,
where should they go?
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Well, you can follow me on my social media platforms,
or better yet, go to stop scholastic dot com and
see the movements that we are up to this weekend
for sure.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
When we come back, we'll break down more on the
Gavin newsom Ron DeSantis debate. We'll circle back to that
which I know Kirk you watched a little bit of
as well. Will also take you into the weekend final hour,
have some fun, try to give you a little bit
more optimism about everything as we roll you through the
Friday edition of the show. Fourteen hours down, fifteenth hour next.
(37:01):
Thanks for hanging with us here on Clay and Buck.
Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Friday edition of the program. Remain open phone lines.
We'll take some of your calls. Eight hundred and two
A two two eight A two. In the third hours,
we continue to roll on, giving a little bit of
(37:22):
a roadmap. Kirk Cameron, formerly of Growing Pains Now and author,
children's book author who is often believe it or not,
I can't believe this is the world we live in?
Protested at his library readings. He's going to join us
at the end of this hour, and the next hour
we're gonna be joined by Jeremy Boring, Ben Shapiro, Daily Wire.
Guys have a new movie out. I have a small
part in that movie, ridiculing the idea of men being
(37:45):
able to compete as women. I think people are gonna
enjoy it. I went and watch the premiere on Wednesday night.
I was kind of impressed at how solid it was.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
How did you feel about your acting debuts? Are we
going to see more of Clay Travis Thespian I cannot
act if I am given the opportunity to play myself.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I think I'm decent at it. I'm not good at
remembering lines. Gets in my head. I worry about whether
I'm standing the right place, saying the right thing. But
if you just tell me, like general idea, Hey, let's
just go have a you know, two minute conversation here,
I think I do. Okay, I seem more natural, if
that makes sense, So I think I didn't. I was
not awful. I asked my wife. She went to the
(38:24):
to the premiere, and I said, hey, what did you
think of my performance, not like I'm in I'm like
two minutes in the movie, maybe that in an hour
and a half. And she said, you actually weren't as
awful as I thought you were going to be, which
as a married man, I will take as a compliment.
By the way, we can speaking of compliments. Yesterday, if
you remember Buck, when I said maybe I said it
(38:45):
off air, I can remember if I said it on air.
Off air, I know you and I talked about it.
Our good buddy Brian Stelter, he of the former.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Lad Stealthias of extremely high testosterol levels.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Brian Stelter, who had his show canceled on CNN as
soon as there was a new leadership group that came in.
I believe he's now and I can't believe this is real.
I think he's a fellow, maybe you call it a
fellow at Harvard who teaches a course on misinformation and disinformation,
despite the fact that he spread probably more misinformation and
(39:20):
disinformation than almost anyone surrounding Russia, collusion and everything else.
He went on the View and he told the ladies
on the View, you guys are louder than the liars.
Maybe the largest collection of dumb people ever on live television.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Here's what you missed yesterday. Fox.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
Though it still is the beating heart of the GOP,
I think it's really important to study it for that reason.
We have to know how it works and how it
sometimes doesn't work, how it goes wrong, because we should
all have a kate to have a truthier, healthier environment.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
That's why I love this, Liar, Liar, I just really
want all of you to like me.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Please please flood hero buck about how awful Fox News
is and nobody bought it.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Kind of me on like it's just do better, man,
like that. That book's been written by fifteen other libs
and all those books sucked. So why why even waste
the time?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
I I mean again, I've got Fox News and I've
got CNN on right now, and I spend a lot
of time obviously on Fox News. I just I don't
see this argument that is out there that somehow Fox
News is spreading all sorts of awful propaganda when MSNBC
and CNN around COVID spread more lies than anybody.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I mean, why can't we have one Now? People are
gonna say, they're gonna bring up, you know, a Newsmax
for example, or News Nation or some of the others.
They have not been able to, uh have the same
kind of carriage. That may have changed recently, but you know,
with cable you got to have the cable carriers pick
you up. And for twenty plus years now, Fox has
(41:02):
been the only conservative cable news network that has basically
full spectrum cable coverage. Right, we can't. You can't have
one channel that leans right without all the libs whining
about it. ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, CNN, MSNBC, NPR.
They are all Lib dominated run and propaganda outfits, Yes,
(41:25):
and they still whine about Fox. Maybe they should just
not to think why is Fox News so powerful? Maybe
because I forget who originated this quote, but you know,
Roger Ayles figured out that there's this niche audience of
half the country that may watch this channel.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
And by the way, you've seen some of these protests
that have been going on. I was at Fox earlier today.
I'll be there again tomorrow morning at the twelve eleven building.
All these Palestinian supporters have been rallying outside of Fox
News because.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
They're too supportive of Israel.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Think about how crazy that criticism is now Fox News
is too supportive of the country that had a massive
terror attack perpetrated against it. Fox has stood up against
the demonization of Jewish people too much. That's what they're
being protested for now. And what you're seeing is and
I know a lot of you out there are listening
to us that maybe you weren't before. There are a
lot of Jewish people out there and supporters of Israel,
(42:16):
may or may not be Jewish, who have said, you know,
the media has actually broken and they're seeing it for
the first time through the prism of the October seventh
terror attack.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
And you know, sometimes an issue really does come down
to right and wrong. I mean, just as clear as day.
You know, last night in the DeSantis k Newsom debate,
they talked about about abortion, and you can tell Gavin
Newsom all nine months of a pregnancy, no exceptions whatsoever.
That is the law in California, and there are a
lot of abortions still happening in that state and other
states too. So there's a fight for life that's underway
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Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome everybody. Friday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show kicks off right now. I cannot believe it
is December, but here we are some big things to
talk to you about today. The Red state Blue state
throwdown last night, Ron DeSantis versus Gavin Newsom. Big props,
(00:26):
high five, and kudos to Sean Hannity for pulling it
all together there on Fox and getting these two guys together.
I watched the whole hour and a half of it.
I thought it was generally interesting. Clay and I are
going to break down both the substance of that exchange
and then some of the policy fights and disagreements that
came from it over the course of this hour with
(00:50):
all of you. Just also some news. Justice Santa Day
O'Connor passed away ninety three years old, passed away today,
So there's that first woman on the Supreme Court. And
we also have George Santos is now a former Republican
member of Congress, and I have some slightly uh well,
(01:13):
we'll see different sense of this, different analysis on this
than some people I think might have based on the
realities of what this means politically and the precedent that
it sets. But Clay, let's start if we can. If
we can, let's begin here with the biggest takeaways from
(01:36):
last night's debate, which are for me, Ronda Santis. I'll
start with this one. I thought Ronda Santis overperformed relative
to expectations based on what I've seen from him and
other debates. I think Gavin Newsome underperformed because he didn't
even manage to be fun evil Keanu. He kind of
(01:59):
turned into a slimy, disingenuous and kind of nasty lib politician.
So I mean, for me, it was a big win
for DeSantis just in terms of what it was. Will
it move the needle for eye or anything. I think
probably not. But what we saw was Ron de Santis,
(02:23):
I believe, more comfortable really going after a Democrat than
he is even his fellow Republicans on a debate stage,
and Gavin Newsom really with a very weak defense of
what he has done in his state.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I thought that Ron DeSantis slaughtered Gavin Newsom, and earlier
this week full disclosure, I thought I was wrong. I
thought Gavin Newsom would be very likable. I thought he
would come across as intelligent. I thought he would filibuster
the attacks. Remember, the facts are all on Ron DeSantis's side.
(02:59):
He has done a better job as governor of Florida
than Gavin Newsom has of California. And I thought from
the opening moment, DeSantis just massacred him. And I don't
know if you've seen this, Buck And by the way,
I'm curious to hear from our listeners out there eight
hundred and two eight two two eight eight two UH,
(03:19):
if they want to call in and be able to
react to what they saw.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
But I thought.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
DeSantis came out and immediately put Gavin Newsom on his
back foot with UH, with this line, if we play
cut six. This happened in like the first five minutes
of the debate. UH, and DeSantis went right after the
fact that Gavin Newsom's own father in law had left
California for Florida. Listen to cut six. And I thought
(03:49):
this basically epitomized the entirety of what the debate went
went and sounded like for both men.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So I was talking to a fella who had made
the move from California to Florida, and he was telling
me that Florida is much better govern safer, better budget,
lower taxes, all this stuff, and he's really happy with
the quality of life. And then he paused and he said, oh,
by the way, I'm Gavin Newsom's father in law. So
we do count Gavin's in laws as some of the
(04:16):
people that have fled California and come to the state
of Florida.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And so from that moment, Buck, I just I.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Didn't really think that there was any kind of reaction
at all from Gavin Newsom. He tried to throw punches back.
I thought that Sean Hannity did a really good job
of integrating all the different all the different facts, and
the Gavin Newsom wasn't able to filibuster and respond very well.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Well, you know, Gavin Newsom, when he was presented with
things like CDC data, just came up with different data
that he thought he could sign an every single hold
on a second, are you saying that the CDC data
on this issue is false? Because if you're just going
to pull statistics that no one has vetted or checked
or has access to, and I think fake or you know,
(05:04):
I think he was being dishonest in the way that
he did it intentionally. So that creates a problem for
the debate. I mean, for me, Gavin Newsom is addicted
to misdirection and lies and being disingenuous and being dishonest.
That's really his skill set, and he I think he
(05:27):
started to become a little bit surly pretty early on
in the debate because you know, what he tries to
do is and this we called an advance. I said
this was going to happen. This absolutely did happen. He goes, well,
California has the fifth largest economy in the world in
California has all this great stuff. Yeah, no one's saying
that California isn't an amazing state, you know, in terms
(05:48):
of the geography and the history and the wealth creation
over time. The debate is what is the Democrat government
of that state doing and what are the effects and
doing in recent years? Or are the effects and what
has Florida's government been doing and what are those effects? Right? So,
because as I said, yes, it takes a long time
(06:08):
for the iceberg, so to speak, to melt ruining California
is a multi year process. You know what we saw
this claim in New York City. When de Blasio took over,
he was handed a very safe, booming New York. It
was doing phenomenally well. And for the first few years
it was New York's doing so great and never kept saying, well,
(06:29):
the trend is in the wrong direction. To Blasio, the
trends and by the time he finished being mayor, guess
what the city had gone through a big increase in crime,
a lot of people leaving, et cetera. Same thing's true
with California. You know, you can't tell me what you inherit.
You know, don't tell me that what you inherited was great. Yeah,
we know that what has he done to it? And
(06:49):
I think that was where he really started to fall apart.
I mean, on the issue of crime, for example, he
just ignored some of the He just ignored the data
which shows that violent assault per cap is much higher
than it is compared to Florida. And you know, I
think that this was good for people to see, but
it's also a little bit disheartening because the fact that
(07:10):
anyone could live in California as a Democrat and think
that Gavin Newsom isn't doing a terrible job is shocking
to me. No, I agree.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Look three other things that particularly I thought stood out.
One the poop map, the graphic that DeSantis pulled out
of San Francisco and basically said, the only time you
will even clean up San Francisco is when you actually
when you actually have the Chinese premiere coming.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I thought that was great.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I thought the graphic language in books, where DeSantis pulled
out examples of things that are in elementary schools that
they're trying to take out, I thought that was particularly compelling.
And the other thing I would say was for those
of you who didn't watch it, at the end, both
men said, oh, let's continue. Ron DeSantis said he would
(08:04):
keep going. Gavin Newsom said he would keep going. Politico
is now reporting that during that commercial break, because I
was like, oh, I guess this thing's going to continue.
During that commercial break, Gavin Newsom's wife came out and said, no,
this is over. And if your wife throws in the
white towel on you, I would just say that's a
(08:26):
sign that objectively watching this thing, she is not liking
how it is going.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I thought Gavin Newsom seemed unprepared. I thought from a
debate perspective, he seemed unchallenged, and I think this is where,
being in a one party state, he's not used to
actually being confronted with facts showing that he did a
bad job. Because so many in the media exists to
propagandize for the Democrat Party in the state of California.
(08:55):
I thought as a result, he was not prepared to
actually have to deal with facts that were uncomfortable and
did not support the narrative that he wanted to sell.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I want to get back into this. We'll talk about
a lot of the specifics here, including on crime, immigration,
the economy. The abortion question got some attention last night.
We'll dive into all that this hour. We want to
hear from you. Eight hundred two two two eight eight two.
I also do want to share my sense to the
Santos thing. But Clay, you know you're up in New
York City right now, still my home, it'll always be
(09:25):
my hometown, and you're doing something really cool. I wanted
you to tell everybody about it. Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
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the widows of first responders, fallen police officers are our
military that have lost their lives to help them be
able to deal with the loss of their loved ones.
(09:51):
This is one of the biggest fundraising events they do
all year, and I'm going to be up on the
stage helping to MC along with Pete Hegseth, along with
Lawrence Jones from Fox News. They brought Cole Hauser, who
plays Rip from Yellowstone. He is donating Yellowstone I think
maybe one of the best characters on TV period. He
and Beth Dutton one of the most popular couple costumes
(10:15):
for the last several years for Halloween. I've never met
him before, but Cole Hauser is donating his time Drew
Brees because they all recognize how important it is. And
you know, thirty eight thousand veterans are experiencing homelessness right
now across our nation as winter is here. That's simply unacceptable,
and Tunnel the Towers is committed to not only helping
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the widows but also all of these homeless veterans. What
Frank Siller is doing is flat out incredible. And I
know everybody's busy during the holiday season. I wanted to
come up here and donate my time to help them
raise more money, but I also want to keep asking
you guys to give and help us continue to do
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we come back. Reacting to this Ron DeSantis going up
(11:58):
against Gavin Newsom the debate, was it as much of
a massacre as both Buck and myself thought?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Buck, I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I thought Gavin Newsom would come off and be incredibly
to use your word, ole, agonus and oily and unctuous,
but also kind of a guy that you might want
to have a line with, maybe at the French Laundry. Instead,
I thought he got his ass kicked. We'll take some
of your calls. We'll react to that. Santos out. We've
also got Jeremy Boring and Ben Shapiro from The Daily Wire.
(12:28):
They've got a new movie out that I've got a
small cameo in. And I believe and I correct, Kirk
Cameron is going to be in studio. I'm not gonna lie, Buck.
I'm super excited to get to meet Kirk Cameron in person,
given the fact that I grew up loving the television
show Growing Pains, Mike sever one of the stars of
my childhood, and Kirk Cameron will be here. Loaded show
(12:49):
for you Friday edition as we roll you into the weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Here on Clay and Buck. Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton
voices of Sanity an Insane World.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
OO. Welcome back again out number two Clay Travis buck
Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
We are rolling through the Friday edition of the program,
hopefully sending you into the weekend on a good note.
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start off the first hour speaking a great deal about
the Ron de Santis Verroun, the larger context there, and
the battle that has ensued as a result of everything
that happened there. I don't think necessarily anything is going
(14:07):
to change in the immediate term in terms of what's
going to happen in the Republican primary. But I do
think that to the extent people had been waiting for
Ron DeSantis to really show himself as a bonafide debate assassin.
I thought this was the first time that we saw
him really take somebody apart, and I think Gavin Newsom
(14:28):
emerged from that battle definitely the worse for wear Okay, buck,
we said we were going to talk about this. Santos,
George Santos from a New York toss up congressional district
outside the city a little bit, has officially been voted
out of Congress. This is the what'd you say, the
sixth person, or is it the seventh whatever, So it's
(14:50):
the sixth member of the House of Representatives, the twenty
first overall from the entirety of both Houses of Congress
to be expelled. But seventeen of the twenty one in
total were expelled for being in the Confederacy. So the
Civil War. This is not a very common thing that's happening.
(15:11):
The last one was James Traffican, if I remember correctly,
to be expelled from the House, and that happened I
don't know, twenty some odd years ago. And this is
a toss up district.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Only two House members have been expelled since the Civil War.
Michael Myers, not the assassin, although you have a decision
that killing many people on behalf of a if you
went around terrorizing people with a kitchen knife, you probably
should be expelled from Congress because but no different. Michael
Myers removed in nineteen eighty after being convicted of bribery
(15:44):
in the abscam scandal. And then, as you mentioned, Clay
James trafficant of Ohio in two thousand and two convicted
of bribery, racketeering, tax evasion, other felonies. But can I
jump into this like what Yeah, right, there's two sides
of this. There's the ethical legal component and then there's
the political. I think we start with the ethical legal here.
(16:05):
So now we have you'll notice with all these other
people there was no question about guilt, and so now
we have punishment before a guilty verdict. Yeah, you know,
sentence first sentence, first verdict later or whatever. It's not
what she says. The Queen in uh, you know, Alice
in Wonderland.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
This is this is yes, and this is also just
a function of what social media does. I think right
we no longer can wait for court decisions in order
to make results on them. So yes, the precedent now
is what you're saying. This is what troubles me because
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
But I did actually a little a little deep dive
podcast on Santos with our friend Ryan gerd Dusky. So
if you subscribe to Claim Book podcast feed, we get
into it because he knows him, he knows Ryan, and
Ryan knows him, and and yes, Ryan says that he
is a compulsive liar, that that Santos is a compulsive liar.
All that is true, But why why not wait until
(17:01):
he is you know, if he's convicted of federal crimes,
are going to prison? Yeah, you remove him from Congress,
But shouldn't he have his day in court? I know
people are saying, oh, but he's so clearly guilty. Well
hold on a second, everybody, what does this leave open?
What is the precedent this sets going forward? And you know,
we all saw what they did to Kavanaugh. You know,
(17:22):
the the evidence free allegations to stop a Supreme Court justice.
You don't think they'll come up with something you don't
think they'll be able to concoct what seems like, oh
my gosh, overwhelming, you know, either through testimony or whatever,
to take down a Republican at some point in the future.
The whole, the whole system we have is premised on
(17:42):
you should have your day in court, and you should
be able to make a defense of yourself, no matter
how absurd it may be, Right, Clay, you're the lawyer. Yeah, No,
I think that's right. This undermines that. So I think
there is a principle here that's being and we haven't
gotten in the politics out of this, which I want
to when Senator Menendez and why is and he being expelled?
But I mean, don't don't you see this same way?
This sets a I don't care what you think about Santos,
(18:03):
this sets a troubling precedent.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Well, and you just hit on something that I think
points that the precedent is not being evenly applied, which
is Democrat New Jersey Senator Robert Menendez, who is accused
by the federal government a far more serious I would say,
charges than anything Santos did. Santos, to me, Buck was
kind of just an incompetent liar who exaggerated like almost
(18:32):
fabulous tales and oftentimes to no particular benefit, right, like
lying about being a member of a for instance, volleyball
team in a men's volleyball team in New York.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I don't even remember college at city University. I know,
I've spent some time at the various city universities for
different reasons. In New York. At some of the Qunity locations,
volleyball is not one of the primary sports. Like you're
usually not on the on the QUNY croquet team either.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, and either way, nobody voted for him because of
that lie. Right, he is a like almost irredeemable in
the sense like fabuloust and liar, but a lot of
his lies didn't actually benefit him or detract from his
ability to be a congressman in the same way that
the Alley Gain looked.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
They said that Robert.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Menendez sold his influence to a foreign country in order
to personally benefit.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Clay He's already Menendez went to federal federal trial once
before criminal trial on on you know, basically you know,
bribery charges. The Melgan I believe was the guy he
was tied to the eye surgeon. I think Trump commuted
or pardoned him. Am I right about this? Might have
pardoned him, but there was some someone checked that one
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for me. But he faced trial before and it was
a hung jury, I believe, right. I think it wasted
not to try him again. I think, or well, hungary
and then mistrial is that how it goes, right, and
so they like to not to try him again. Now
they're trying him again on selling, as you said, giving
secrets basically or you know, a sensitive information a foreign
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country if we can. This is the politics side of it. Everyone.
If Republicans say we have to kick out Santos because
he's so guilty, Menandos look pretty guilty to me and
I guar there's not even a conversation among Democrats that
they're going to kick out. Even though they got Democrat
governor New Jersey, they're not going to lose one of
their senators until they absolutely have to. Not only do
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they have a Democrat senator, his wife is running to
replace Menndez, which has not gotten a lot of attention
so far. There are many different I think three or
four different people running, and it's likely that Menindez is
going to get replaced. And that's why I think you're
right here.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I also don't think Menindez should have to step down
based on allegations.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Again, these are allegations.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Voters next year, in eleven months, we're going to make
a decision on Santos. So now my understanding is Buck,
you're going to end up with an election in February
or March, and then you're going to follow it up
again with another election in November and the primary season,
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Santos wasn't going to even be the representative for Republicans
going forward.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Can I blow your mind right now? Clay? You're ready
for this. I don't know if you've even seen this.
You see what Fetterman said about this issue on the view.
You already had to give Fetterman and I did too,
a high five on saying things on Israel that made
perfect sense to us. Yes, you know, Israel's right to
defend it self, amasa's terrorist entity, full stop. Fetterman's been
good on Israel. I'm not going to trash Fetterman, you
know what he says on things, just because I think
(21:38):
on other things he's, you know, way off base here
he is on the Santos and Menendez issue. Listen to
twenty five.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
I'm not surprised. But to me, I think the more
important picture is that we have a colleague and in
the Senate that actually does much more sinister and serious
kinds of things. Senator Menendez.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
He needs to go.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
And if you are going to expel Santos, how can
you allow to somebody like Menendez to remain in the Senate.
And you know, Santos's kind of lies, we're almost you know,
funny and like you know, he you know, landed on
the moon and it got kind of stuff. Whereas whereas
you know, you know, I think, you know, Menendez, I
think is really a senator for Egypt, you know, not
(22:20):
in New Jersey. So I really think he needs to.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Go play everything he says there? Do you disagree with
a single word?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
He sounds like me, he almost, I'd like, Look, I
disagree with the precedent that he wants to follow, and
that in that I don't think we should get rid
of Santos, and I don't think we should get rid
of Menindez.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I think we should wait, let voters do it. But
the men stuff is more serious, more serious, and at
least he's trying to be consistent. Other Democrats are just
making it up as they go.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
He's standing on the principle that he thinks you should
be removed in situations such as these, which I disagree with.
But the logic under which he is making his argument
is the same that we just made on this show.
And I can't believe I'm saying this, but Fetterman is
actually rational and consistent in a way that very few
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politicians are able to be rational and consistent, even if
I sometimes disagree with him, And I look, I think
that the idea that Pennsylvania elected this guy is is absurd.
But he's one hundred percent right on Israel, and he's
at least willing to stand on principle. He just made
the same argument we did on Santo's Compared to Benindez.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Has there been a Democrat senator who has racked up
two high five moments on this show over the past year.
I'm just saying more wins for sanity than other Senate
Now you could say that's an incredibly low bar and
they're all crazy, okay, But I mean he's better than
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some of the rest so far, it seems, Which is
what does that tell you? I mean, yes, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
And by the way, speaking of what does that, I
tell you, you know what, it's funny, buck. I was
yesterday talking to my fifteen year old and he was
trying to track down his thirteen year old brother. And
you know what we're trying to do. We're trying to
keep our kids from getting cell phones too early. So
we have said you have to be fourteen year years old.
My boys, you have to be fourteen years old until
(24:23):
you can get a cell phone. And some of you
out there are like, man, Clay, that's too early. Others
of you out there are like, oh my goodness, how
did you wait till fourteen? My fifteen year old called
me on his pure talk phone and he said, Dad,
this is ridiculous. I said, what, what's ridiculous?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Fox?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
He said, you have to get your brother, my brother
a cell phone. I can't find him and we're supposed
to be getting in the car together and I don't
know where he is. He was supposed to be meeting
me on their campus where their school is, and he's
not at basketball practice and I can't find him anywhere
and I can't track him down. He said, you have
to get your brother a phone, and I said, I
(24:59):
can't believe that you're actually arguing in favor of your
brother getting something, because usually you always say, as every
kid does, I'm getting treated unfairly. You know why he's
doing that, Buck, because pure talk has been so awesome
for him. Pure talk is how I keep in touch
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Speaker 1 (26:15):
And by the way, we come back, the Biden administration
has got their Christmas decorations up yet, even those you
can't rely on. Believe it or not. We're gonna tell
you why. That's coming up next, But first go get
that cell phone. Taking care of Pound two five zero.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
The Voices of Sanity in an Insane World.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Claye Travins said, Buck Sexton, All right, team special treat
here on Clay and Bock. Actor Kirk Cameron is with
Play in New York in studio. You'll know him from
Growing Pains, but also the books that he's been writing
and the efforts he's been he's been giving to try
to make sure that kids are actually reading good stuff
and not the some of the filth that's in schools.
(26:57):
His latest book is The Fox, the Fair and the
Scar Invention Scare, which sounds very interesting. Uh, Clay, I'm
gonna let you take it away with Kirk there in
studio because you guys are right there. But you know, obviously,
last night the desantist stuff with the books got a
lot of people's attention.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, you've got a bunch of different copies in front
of us right now here in New York of books
that are and people who are watching this on video
can see it.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
But these are books.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I want you to tell people out there who may
not be paying attention. These are books that are like,
for instance, this one right here is called I want
to read this Welcome.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
To Saint Hell, my trans tine misadventure.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
This book right now, and I'm holding this up, but
I mean, I'm kind of looking at it. I'm kind
of in disbelief. This would be marketed to what age kid,
based on your understanding, eight to twelve, eight year old
kids would be able to read. I second, I have
a third grader. This is crazy to me, my trans
teen misadventure like this would be marketed to an eight
(27:59):
year old. Second, a great kid.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
And what's in it is so Lewde and so obscene
that when we pasted one of the pages on a
Facebook ad, Facebook community standards band it and shut it
down for posting obscenity that violates their community standards.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And that's for adults.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
This is a book for children. And this is.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Why I'm on this mission right now to give parents
and grandparents an opportunity to engage and stop merely complaining
about the bad stuff and start creating the good paths
that we can go down and build a world for
our children where they've got hope and a future.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
And also, this is significant because you're not saying that
no one should ever be able to read a book
like this. You're just saying second graders shouldn't be exposed
to the idea of trans identity.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
But that's wild. For I mean, I've got a third grader.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
The idea that we would be teaching kids that young
that they are not the gender they think they are
is madness. Because kids that young, at that age, we're
gonna let them pick their gender.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
It's wild.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
It is wild. And what we're seeing is where do
we want to go with this?
Speaker 6 (29:15):
I mean, this is a brilliant wedge that will ultimately
separate children from their parents. And I think that is
one of the main goals when you sexualize children at
a young age and you get them to start questioning
basic fundamental building blocks of society, like am I a
boy or a girl?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
And I can change that.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
You are able to then peak their curiosity, take them
down a rabbit hole, and get them to trust in
communities that don't have their best interest in mind. And
then all of a sudden, the parents are the they're
the archaic people, and they can't be trusted, and they're
transphobe or their whatever fobe. And pretty soon you've got
seven hours a day with these kids all by yourself
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to train them into little marks lemmings to do exactly
what the state wants them to do. So, look, we
can either wind and complain or we can get in
the game and start moving the ball in the right direction.
That's why I have partnered up with Brave Books. I've
partnered up with Skytree Bookfairs to replace Scholastic and all
(30:18):
of this harmful stuff and get helpful, wholesome books onto
the shelves of libraries and public schools and private schools
across the country.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
You know, Kirk I know that you've tried to go
to some libraries to read wholesome, uplifting and worthwhile books.
And this isn't an era of drag Queen Story Hour
and you know some of the trans agenda books and
things you mentioned that seems to be fine with libraries.
But you wanting to read nice, wholesome stuff. That's been
(30:51):
a problem sometimes at these libraries.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
What happened, Oh yeah, this has been going on for
the last year.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
I suppose if I just if I just busted out
my fish at Stockings, my mini skirt and heels and
showed up as you know, Kirk Dazzle Glamoroni, I'd have
been accepted with with open arms. But because I came
in and said, hey, how about we sing God bless America,
recite the Pledge of Allegiance, we thank God for giving
(31:18):
us such a special country, and let's read a book
about faith, hope and love. It was a hard no
in some libraries. Now other libraries were like, come on.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
We want you to come here. We don't like all
of this.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
Garbage that we're getting getting shoved down our throats. And
when they told me I couldn't come, and I reminded
them that this is America, this is called viewpoint discrimination
on their on their side, and that I would be
prepared to exercise my constitutional rights against them for the discrimination.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
They changed their mind.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
We showed up and three thousand parents and grandparents were
there to welcome us, flooding the library, making it the
most attended event in the history of these downtown libraries.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
In blue cities.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
So the narrative, the perception is not the reality. Boots
on the ground, people in the trenches, moms and dads
and grandparents want the stuff that leads to their children's
blessing and protection. And we've just got to not be afraid,
stand up and get into game. I mean, look what
Elon Musk is doing right now. Look how he is
championing free speech and telling these people to f off
(32:22):
if they want to try to buy his free speech
from him with money.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
You know, I'd use a different lexicon.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
But we need to have the same attitude of if
we trade our freedoms for safety, will end up with
neither because the government will come in and they will
shut down everything.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
And they're well underway.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I'm fascinated by your path here. A lot of people
out there listening are around mind in Buck's age, and
we grew up watching you on Growing Pains nineteen eighties television.
I like to show nineteen eighties movies to my kids.
There is a wholesomeness to them that doesn't necessarily seem
to exist in our culture today. Would you have ever believed,
(33:11):
working in Hollywood making a super popular show that twenty
five thirty years after that show you would be going
around trying to get people to read wholesome books, or
that it would even be necessary.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
No, never thought I'd be hanging out with two guys
like Buck and Clay on a radio program like this
talking about essential values, about first principles in the nation.
And in fact, you know, all of this is really
driven by my love for God and my love for
my family, which was really a foreign concept to me,
at least on the God stuff when I was on
(33:46):
Growing Pains, because I was an atheist at the time
and changed.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Why did you change? What happened in your life?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Well, yea, I can explain it so many different ways.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
But I met a really cute girl who invited me
to church, And not to devolve too far down, just
to say that I became a Christian for her because
I didn't. But what transpired was I believe God himself
opening my eyes through asking questions, getting great answers, hearing
the message that really captured my heart my mind and
(34:24):
went down a road that led me to believe that.
It took more faith for me to hang on to
my atheism blind faith to believe that God does not
exist than it did to believe that all of this
came as a result of a powerful, intelligent creator.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
So that's that was a big shift for me.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
So the fact that I'm here with you guys talking
about this stuff and pushing back the darkness, making inroads
for the for the kingdom of light, and establishing what's
good and right and beautiful for children.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Man, I couldn't be more thankful.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
And how do you think think you know, how do
you think the movement is going Kirk to create more
content specifically for children these days? That has to come
from more independent creators. You know, we're gonna have Daily
Wire guys on and now that's they're making a kind
of a mockumentary or you know, a film that's taking
on the trans issue that's not necessarily for kids. But
(35:20):
I think they've also done some children's books, and I
think Matt Walsh did a children's book, and they're trying
to create more of this content because you know, it
feels like for the for the average American, if you
believe in traditional values, if you believe in God, like
Disney has abandoned.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
You ondred percent.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
But you know, if we could go back and bring
Noah Webster back our founding fathers and John Adams and
George Washington and all the good guys and ask them
what's going the huge I imagine they would say something like,
Kirk clay Buck, you never should have depended on Disney
in the first place. You shouldn't be hanging your hat
on companies organization that are going to keep these values going.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
This has been entrusted to you as dads, as moms.
You've got to teach this stuff to your kids.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
And at the heart of the whole thing, you have
to understand that this thing called freedom is a gift
from God, and you've got to protect it, and you've
got to nourish it, and you've got to just.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Go for it with all of your heart. Kirk, we
really appreciate the time. We know how hard you are
working If people want to see more of your work,
where should they go?
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Well, you can follow me on my social media platforms,
or better yet, go to stop scholastic dot com and
see the movements that we are up to this weekend
for sure.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
When we come back, we'll break down more on the
Gavin newsom Ron DeSantis debate. We'll circle back to that
which I know Kirk you watched a little bit of
as well. Will also take you into the weekend final hour,
have some fun, try to give you a little bit
more optimism about everything as we roll you through the
Friday edition of the show. Fourteen hours down, fifteenth hour next.
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Thanks for hanging with us here on Clay and Buck.
Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Friday edition of the program. Remain open phone lines.
We'll take some of your calls. Eight hundred and two
A two two eight A two. In the third hours,
we continue to roll on, giving a little bit of
(37:22):
a roadmap. Kirk Cameron, formerly of Growing Pains Now and author,
children's book author who is often believe it or not,
I can't believe this is the world we live in?
Protested at his library readings. He's going to join us
at the end of this hour, and the next hour
we're gonna be joined by Jeremy Boring, Ben Shapiro, Daily Wire.
Guys have a new movie out. I have a small
part in that movie, ridiculing the idea of men being
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able to compete as women. I think people are gonna
enjoy it. I went and watch the premiere on Wednesday night.
I was kind of impressed at how solid it was.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
How did you feel about your acting debuts? Are we
going to see more of Clay Travis Thespian I cannot
act if I am given the opportunity to play myself.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I think I'm decent at it. I'm not good at
remembering lines. Gets in my head. I worry about whether
I'm standing the right place, saying the right thing. But
if you just tell me, like general idea, Hey, let's
just go have a you know, two minute conversation here,
I think I do. Okay, I seem more natural, if
that makes sense, So I think I didn't. I was
not awful. I asked my wife. She went to the
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to the premiere, and I said, hey, what did you
think of my performance, not like I'm in I'm like
two minutes in the movie, maybe that in an hour
and a half. And she said, you actually weren't as
awful as I thought you were going to be, which
as a married man, I will take as a compliment.
By the way, we can speaking of compliments. Yesterday, if
you remember Buck, when I said maybe I said it
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off air, I can remember if I said it on air.
Off air, I know you and I talked about it.
Our good buddy Brian Stelter, he of the former.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Lad Stealthias of extremely high testosterol levels.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Brian Stelter, who had his show canceled on CNN as
soon as there was a new leadership group that came in.
I believe he's now and I can't believe this is real.
I think he's a fellow, maybe you call it a
fellow at Harvard who teaches a course on misinformation and disinformation,
despite the fact that he spread probably more misinformation and
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disinformation than almost anyone surrounding Russia, collusion and everything else.
He went on the View and he told the ladies
on the View, you guys are louder than the liars.
Maybe the largest collection of dumb people ever on live television.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Here's what you missed yesterday. Fox.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
Though it still is the beating heart of the GOP,
I think it's really important to study it for that reason.
We have to know how it works and how it
sometimes doesn't work, how it goes wrong, because we should
all have a kate to have a truthier, healthier environment.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
That's why I love this, Liar, Liar, I just really
want all of you to like me.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Please please flood hero buck about how awful Fox News
is and nobody bought it.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Kind of me on like it's just do better, man,
like that. That book's been written by fifteen other libs
and all those books sucked. So why why even waste
the time?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
I I mean again, I've got Fox News and I've
got CNN on right now, and I spend a lot
of time obviously on Fox News. I just I don't
see this argument that is out there that somehow Fox
News is spreading all sorts of awful propaganda when MSNBC
and CNN around COVID spread more lies than anybody.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I mean, why can't we have one Now? People are
gonna say, they're gonna bring up, you know, a Newsmax
for example, or News Nation or some of the others.
They have not been able to, uh have the same
kind of carriage. That may have changed recently, but you know,
with cable you got to have the cable carriers pick
you up. And for twenty plus years now, Fox has
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been the only conservative cable news network that has basically
full spectrum cable coverage. Right, we can't. You can't have
one channel that leans right without all the libs whining
about it. ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, CNN, MSNBC, NPR.
They are all Lib dominated run and propaganda outfits, Yes,
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and they still whine about Fox. Maybe they should just
not to think why is Fox News so powerful? Maybe
because I forget who originated this quote, but you know,
Roger Ayles figured out that there's this niche audience of
half the country that may watch this channel.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
And by the way, you've seen some of these protests
that have been going on. I was at Fox earlier today.
I'll be there again tomorrow morning at the twelve eleven building.
All these Palestinian supporters have been rallying outside of Fox
News because.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
They're too supportive of Israel.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Think about how crazy that criticism is now Fox News
is too supportive of the country that had a massive
terror attack perpetrated against it. Fox has stood up against
the demonization of Jewish people too much. That's what they're
being protested for now. And what you're seeing is and
I know a lot of you out there are listening
to us that maybe you weren't before. There are a
lot of Jewish people out there and supporters of Israel,
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may or may not be Jewish, who have said, you know,
the media has actually broken and they're seeing it for
the first time through the prism of the October seventh
terror attack.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
And you know, sometimes an issue really does come down
to right and wrong. I mean, just as clear as day.
You know, last night in the DeSantis k Newsom debate,
they talked about about abortion, and you can tell Gavin
Newsom all nine months of a pregnancy, no exceptions whatsoever.
That is the law in California, and there are a
lot of abortions still happening in that state and other
states too. So there's a fight for life that's underway
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every day. And we know about all the covers that
Planned PARENTI has across the country. The abortion industry is huge.
Who is pushing against this to try to save babies' lives.
The Preborn Network of clinics, the team at Preborn work
hard to provide support to pregnant mothers. They encourage them
to choose life for their unborn babies. Then they provide
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