December 1, 2023 • 36 mins
George Santos expelled from Congress without a criminal trial, sets a troubling precedent. Fetterman calls for Menendez to be expelled from the Senate. The Bidens decide not to hang grandchildren’s Christmas stockings now that they've acknowledged illegitimate grandchild. Brian Stelter bashes Fox. Kirk Cameron, author and star of the ‘80s sitcom Growing Pains, joins Clay and Buck to talk about his new children's book: "The Fox, the Fair, and the Invention Scare."
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back in out number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are
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the podcast, but also on the five hundred affiliate stations
plus all over this country. So we start off the
first hour speaking a great deal about the Ron de
santis Verroun, the larger context there, and the battle that
has ensued as a result of everything that happened there,
I don't think necessarily anything is going to change in
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the immediate term in terms of what's going to happen
in the Republican primary. But I do think that to
the extent people had been waiting for Ron DeSantis to
really show himself as a bonafide debate assassin. I thought
this was the first time that we saw him really
take somebody apart. And I think Gavin Newsom emerged from
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that battle definitely the worse for wear Okay, buck, we
said we were going to talk about this. Santos, George
Santos from a New York toss up congressional district outside
the city a little bit, has officially been voted out
of Congress. This is the what did you say, the
sixth person or is it the seventh whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So it's the sixth member of the House of Representatives
empty first overall from the entirety of both houses of
Congress to be expelled. But seventeen of the twenty one
in total were expelled for being in the Confederacy.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So the Civil War.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
This is not a very common thing that's happening. The
last one was James Traffic Caan if I remember correctly,
to be expelled from the House, and that happened I
don't know, twenty some odd years ago. And this is
a toss up district.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Only two House members have been expelled since the Civil War.
Michael Myers, not.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
The assassin, although you have a mission that killing many
people on behalf of a if you went around terrorizing
people with a kitchen knife, you probably should be expelled
from Congress because but no different. Michael Myers removed in
nineteen eighty after being convicted of bribery in the ab
scam scandal. And then, as you mentioned, Clay James, trafficant
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of Ohio in two thousand and two convicted of bribery.
I could hearing tax evasion other felonies, But can I
jump into this like what right? There's two sides of this.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
There's the ethical legal component and then there's the political.
I think we start with the ethical legal here. So
now we have you'll notice with all these other people
there was no question about guilt, and so now we
have punishment before a guilty verdict. Yeah, you know, sentence first, sentence, first,
verdict later or whatever. It's not what she says. The
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Queen in uh you know, Alice in Wonderland, this.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Is this is yes, and this is also just a
function of what social media does. I think right we
no longer can wait for court decisions in order to
make results on them. So yes, the precedent now is
what you're saying. This is what troubles me because I know.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
But I did actually a little a little deep dive
podcast on Santos with our friend Ryan ger Dusky. So
if you subscribe to Claim Book podcast feed, we get
into it because he knows him, he knows Ryan, and
Ryan knows him, and and yes, Ryan says that he
is a a compulsive liar, that Santas is a compulsive liar.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
All that is true, But.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Why not wait until he is you know, if he's
convicted of federal crimes, are going to prison? Yeah, you
remove him from Congress, But shouldn't he have his day
in court? I know people are saying, oh, but he's
so clearly guilty. Well, hold on a second, everybody, what
does this leave open? What is the precedent this sets
going forward? And you know, we all saw what they
(04:26):
did to Kavanaugh. You know, the the evidence free allegations
to stop a Supreme Court justice.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
You don't think they'll come up with something. You don't
think they'll be able.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
To concoct what seems like, oh my gosh, overwhelming, you know,
either through testimony or whatever, to take down a Republican
at some point in the future.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
The whole, the whole.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
System we have is premised on you should have your
day in court, and you should be able to make
a defense of yourself, no matter how absurd it may be, right, Clay,
you're the lawyer.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, no, right, this this undermines that.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So I think there is a principle here being and
we haven't gotten to the politics out of this, which
I want to when Senator Menendez and whys and heating expelled,
But I mean, don't don't you see this the same
way This sets a I don't care what you think
about Santos, this sets a troubling precedent.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Well, and you just hit on something that I think
points that the precedent is not being evenly applied, which
is Democrat New Jersey Senator Robert Menendez, who is accused
by the federal government a far more serious I would say,
charges than anything Santos did. Santos, to me, Buck was
kind of just an incompetent liar who exaggerated like almost
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fabulous tales and oftentimes to no particular benefit, right, like
lying about being a member of a for instance, volleyball
team in a men's volleyball team in New York.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I don't even remember college at city University.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I know, I've spent some time at the various city
universities for different reasons. In New York, at some of
the cunity locations, volleyball is not one of the primary sports.
Like you're you're usually not on the on the cuny
croquet team either.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, and by the way, nobody voted for him because
of that lie. Right, he is a like almost irredeemable
in the sense like fabuloust and liar, but a lot
of his lies didn't actually benefit him or detract from
his ability to be a congressman in the same way.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
That the allegain.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Look, they said that Robert Menendez sold his influence to
a foreign country in order to personally benefit like he's already.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Menendez went to federal federal trial once before criminal trial
on on you know, basically you know, bribery charges. The
melgan I believe was the guy he was tied to
the eye surgeon. I think Trump commuted or pardoned him.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Am I right about this?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Might have pardoned him, but there was some someone checked
that one for me. But uh, he faced trial before
and it was a hung jury, I believe right. I
think it was elected not to try him again. I
think or well hungary and then miss trials that how
it goes, right, and so they liketed not to try
him again. Now they're trying him again on selling, as
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you said, giving secrets basically or you know, a sense
of information a foreign country if we can. This is
the politics side of it.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Everyone.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
If Republicans say we have to kick out Santos because
he's so guilty, menandoes look pretty guilty to me and
I guar there's not even a conversation among Democrats that
they're going to kick out. Even though they go Democrat
governor New Jersey, they're not going to lose one of
their senators until they absolutely have to.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Not only do they have a Democrat senator, his wife
is running to replace Menndez, which has not gotten a
lot of attention so far. There are many different I
think three or four different people running, and it's likely
that Menindez is going to get replaced.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
And that's why I think you're right here.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I also don't think Menindez should have to step down
based on allegations.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Again, these are allegations.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Voters next year, in eleven months, we're going to make
a decision on Santos. So now my understanding is Buck,
you're gonna end up with an election in February or March,
and then you're gonna follow it up again with another
election in November and the primary season. Santos wasn't going
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to even be the representative for Republicans going forward.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Can I blow your mind right now, Clay, you're ready
for this. I don't know if you've even seen this.
You see what Fetterman said about this issue. On the
view you already had to give Fetterman and I did
two a high five on saying things on Israel that
made perfect sense to us. Yes, you know, Israel's right
to defend it self, Hamasa's terrorist entity, full stop. Fetterman's
been good on Israel. I'm not going to trash Fetterman.
You know what he says on things, just because I
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think on other things he's you know, way off base here.
He is on the Santos.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
And Menendez issue. Listen to twenty five.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I'm not surprised. But to me, I think the more
important picture is that we have a colleague in this
Senate that actually does much more sinister and serious kinds
of things, Senator Menendez.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
He needs to go.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
And if you are going to expel Santos, how can
you allow to somebody like Menendez to remain in the Senate.
And you know, Santos's kind of lies, we're almost you know,
funny and like you know, he you know, landed on
the moon and guy kind of stuff. Whereas whereas you know,
you know, I think you know, Menendez, I think is
really a senator for Egypt, you know, not in New Jersey.
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So I really think he needs to.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Go play everything he says there. Do you disagree with
a single word?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
He sounds like me, he almost, I'd like, Look, I
disagree with the precedent that he wants to follow, and
that in that I don't think we should get rid
of Santos, and I don't think we should get rid
of Menendez.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I think we should wait, let voters do it.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But the men stuff is more serious, more serious, and
at least he's trying to be consistent.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Other Democrats are just making it up as they go.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
He's standing on the principle that he thinks you should
be removed in situations such as these, which I disagree with.
But the logic under which he is making his argument
is the same that we just made on this show.
And I can't believe I'm saying this, but Fetterman is
actually rational and consistent in a way that very few
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politicians are able to be rational and consistent, even if
I sometimes disagree with him, And I look, I think
that the idea that Pennsylvania elected this guy is absurd.
But he's one hundred percent right on Israel, and he's
at least willing to stand on principle. He just made
the same argument we did on Santo's Compared to Benindez.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Has there been a Democrat senator who has racked up
two high five moments on this show over the past year.
I'm just saying more wins for sanity than other Senate. Now,
you could say that's an incredibly low bar and they're
all crazy, okay, But I mean he's better than some
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of the rest so far, it seems, Which is what does.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That tell you I mean, yes, that's crazy. And by
the way, speaking of what does that tell you?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
You know what? It's funny buck.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I was yesterday talking to my fifteen year old and
he was trying to track down his thirteen year old brother.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
And you know what we're trying to do.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
We're trying to keep our kids from getting cell phones
too early. So we have said you have to be
fourteen year years old. My boys, you have to be
fourteen years old until you can get a cell phone.
And some of you out there are like, man, Clay,
that's too early. Others of you out there are like,
oh my goodness, how did you wait till fourteen? My
fifteen year old called me on his pure talk phone
and he said, Dad, this is ridiculous. I said, what
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you what's ridiculous?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Fox?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
He said, you have to get your brother, my brother
a cell phone. I can't find him and we're supposed
to be getting in the car together and I don't
know where he is. He was supposed to be meeting
me on their campus where their school is, and he's
not at basketball practice and I can't find him anywhere
and I can't track him down. He said, you have
to get your brother a phone, and I said, I
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can't believe that you're actually arguing in favor of your
brother getting something, because usually you always say, as every
kid does, I'm getting treated unfairly. You know why he's
doing that, Buck, because pure talk has been so awesome
for him. Puretalk is how I keep in touch with
my fifteen year old. By the way, if your kids
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Speaker 4 (13:10):
You'll switch.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Your service will be as good or better than anything
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And by the way, we come back, the Biden administration
has got their Christmas decorations up yet, even those you
can't rely.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
On, believe it or not.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
We're going to tell you why that's coming up next,
but first go get that cell phone.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Taking care of Pound two five zero.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
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Speaker 4 (13:43):
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You want to tell me what's going on with the
White House right now? What's the latest?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Fuck?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Have you ever gone through the White House regardless of
who's in office around Christmas and just seeing how awesome
they do with Christmas decorations and everything else. It's actually
they have like special Christmas tours. I did it back
when I was in college. I think I went with
a girl and it was probably a pretty good way
to you know, impress her, like oh, it's like, oh,
it's the festive season everything else. So it's actually really
(15:26):
well done. They put up huge decorations. You ever been
around the holiday, I've actually never been during the I
was invited to a White House Christmas party under Trump,
but I didn't go because there was some reasons.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Yeah, some drama. But we talked about this.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
The last two years, the Biden White House has made
a big deal of hanging Christmas stockings for each of
the Biden grandchildren. And they've hung six because they say
they have six grandchildren. Well, of course, there's a four
year old in Arkansas who is the child of Hunter Biden,
illegitimate child of Hunter Biden, and the Biden family refused
(16:03):
to acknowledge her and it turned into a story and
they said, well, why do you only have six Christmas stockings?
So Joe Biden, supposedly a nice guy, decides he's finally
going to acknowledge his seventh grandchild. Guess what they did
this year, For the first time that the Bidens are
in the White House, they removed all of the Christmas stockings,
so rather than hang seven and acknowledge that they have
(16:26):
a seventh granddaughter. Remember, it was the public shaming basically
even of left wing media. I think the New York
Times Marine Dowd said, you know, this is like a
really awful thing to do, to not acknowledge your granddaughter.
Now they are pulling all of the Christmas stockings rather
than have to acknowledge that they have seven grandchildren.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Now do you go.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
All out with I mean, I know you're your Halloween
party and for Halloween you the Travis household, You guys go,
you and Laura and the kids all in on Halloween decorations?
Are you big on because my mother she could be
like the cover of you know, an old Sears catalog
or something. In terms of the Christmas decoration she does
at the Sex and Home in New York.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Are you big into it? Yeah, Laura goes.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I mean, it's not as many things as for Halloween,
but we have a lot of lights up. And you'll
appreciate this because I thought it was pretty smart. We
let my kids pick their Christmas stockings. Probably like five
or six years ago, my middle son bought basically a
burlap sock to be his burlap sack to be his
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Christmas stocking, with the idea being that it's going to
get filled up even more with presents. So it was
a brilliant move by him. But literally that we have
a fireplace with a stocking. Now everybody has gotten the
same size stocking. That is like a you could basically
travel to Europe with this thing.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
You know. I'm wondering if people agree with me on this.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I'll put this out there as well, a little bit
of an early thing for Christmas play. But in my family,
and I will say it was my idea and it
was about a decade ago because we no one had
there were no grand kids in the picture. Yet we
don't do gifts among the adults. Oh do meals together
and Christmas together and all, but we don't. We don't
give because at some point you've gotten your fourth Hunter
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green Lands end sweater in a row and having to say, oh, thank.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
You, and the thought that counts. I think it's over.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I think for employees and for people who work for
you or with you or whatever, give them gifts. But
what do you think within the family adults, not for
the kids. Kids get gifts, but adults no gift.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I don't think that's an awful move. In fact, when
we started having kids, I said, hey, I don't need anything.
I can buy whatever I want, get my kids better
gifts than you otherwise would, and spend that money on them.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
I think that's a good play. That's I like that.
I like that.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Clay Travis and buck Sexton on the front Lines of Truth.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Friday edition of the program. Remain open phone mines.
We'll take some of your calls. Eight hundred and two
A two two eight A two uh. In the third hours,
we continue to roll on, giving a little bit of
a roadmap. Kirk Cameron, formerly of Growing Pains Now and
author children's book author who is often believe it or not,
(19:09):
I can't believe this is the world we live in,
protested at his library readings. He's gonna join us at
the end of this hour and the next hour we're
gonna be joined by Jeremy Boring, Ben Shapiro, Daily Wire.
Guys have a new movie out. I have a small
part in that movie. Ridiculing the idea of men being
able to compete as women. I think people are gonna
enjoy it. I went and watch the premiere on Wednesday night.
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I was kind of impressed at how solid it was.
How did you feel about your acting debut? Is this
are we gonna see more of Clay Travis thespian I
cannot act. If I am given the opportunity to play myself,
I think I'm decent at it.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I'm not good at remembering lines. Gets in my head.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I worry about whether I'm standing the right place, saying
the right thing. But if you just tell me like
general idea, Hey, let's just go have a two minute
conversation here, I think I do. Okay, I seem more natural,
if that makes sense. So I think I didn't. I
was not awful. I asked my wife. She went to
the premiere, and I said, hey, what did you think
of my performance? It's not like I'm in I'm like
two minutes in the movie, maybe that in an hour
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and a half. And she said, you actually weren't as
awful as I thought you were going to be, which
as a married man, I will take as a compliment.
By the way we can speaking of compliments yesterday, If
you remember Buck, when I said maybe I said it
off air. I can't remember if I said it on
air off air, I know you and I talked about it.
Our good buddy Brian Stelter, he of the former STEALTHI.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Of extremely high testosterol levels.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Brian Stelter, who had his show canceled on CNN as
soon as there was a new leadership group that came in.
I believe he's now and I can't believe this is real.
I think he's a fellow maybe you call it a
fellow at Harvard who teaches a course on misinformation and disinformation,
despite the fact that he spread probably more disinformation and
(21:00):
disinformation than almost anyone surrounding Russia, collusion and everything else.
He went on the View and he told the ladies
on the View, you guys are louder than the liars,
maybe the largest collection of dumb people ever on live television.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Here's what you missed yesterday, Fox.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Though it still is the beating heart of the GOP,
I think it's really important to study it for that reason.
We have to know how it works and how it
sometimes doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
How it goes wrong, because we should all have a
Kate to have a truthier, healthier environment.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
That's why I love this show, because a loud than
the liars, than the liar. I just really want all
of you to like me. Please, please applaud.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
He wrote a book buck about how awful Fox News
is and nobody bought it.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Kind of be a it's just do better man like that.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That book's been written by fifteen other libs and all
those books sucked.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
So why why even waste the time?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I mean again, I've got Fox News and I've got
CNN on right now, and I spend a lot of
time obviously on Fox News. I just I don't see
this argument that is out there that somehow Fox News
is spreading all sorts of awful propaganda when MSNBC and
CNN around COVID spread more lies than anybody.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I mean, why can't we have one now?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
People are going to say they're going to bring up,
you know, a Newsmax for example, or News Nation or
some of the others. They have not been able to
have the same kind of carriage. That may have changed recently,
but you know, with cable, you got to have the
cable carriers pick you up and for twenty plus years now,
Fox has been the only conservative cable news network that
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has basically full spectrum cable coverage. Right, we can't you
can't have one channel that leans right without all the
libs whining about it. ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, CNN, MSNBC, NPR.
They are all Lib dominated run and propaganda outfits. Yes,
and they still whined about Fox. Maybe they should just
(23:08):
not have to think why is Fox News so powerful? Maybe
because I forget who originated this quote, but you know,
Roger Ales figured out that there's this niche audience of
half the country that may watch this channel.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
And by the way, you've seen some of these protests
that have been going on. I was at Fox earlier today,
I'll be there again tomorrow morning at the twelve eleven building.
All these Palestinian supporters have been rallying outside of Fox
News because they're too supportive of Israel. Think about how
crazy that criticism is.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Fox News is too supportive of the country that had
a massive terror attack perpetrated against it. Fox has stood
up against the demonization of Jewish people too much. That's
what they're being protested for now. And what you're seeing
is and I know a lot of you out there
are listening to us that maybe you weren't before. There
are a lot of Jewish people out there and supporters
of Israel, may or may not be Jewish, who have said,
(23:58):
you know, the media has actually broke and they're seeing
it for the first time through the prism of the
October seventh tear attack.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And you know, sometimes an issue really does come down
to right and wrong. I mean, just as clear as day.
You know, last night in the DeSantis Knewsom debate, they
talked about about abortion, and you can tell Gavin Newsom
all nine months of a pregnancy, no exceptions whatsoever. That
is the law in California and there are a lot
of abortions still happening in that state and other states too.
(24:25):
So there's a fight for life that's underway every day.
And we know about all the covers that Planned Parento
has across the country. The abortion industry is huge. Who
is pushing against this to try to save babies' lives.
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Subscribe today, All right, Team special treat here on Clay
and Buck. Actor Kirk Cameron is with play in New
York in studio. You all know him from Growing Pains,
but also the books that he's been writing and the
efforts he's been, uh, he's been giving to try to
make sure the kids are actually reading good stuff and
not the some of the filth that's in schools. His
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latest book is The Fox, the Fair and the Invention
Scar Invention Scare, which sounds very interesting. Uh, Clay, I'm
gonna let you take it away with Kirk there in
studio because you guys are right there. But you know,
obviously last night the desantist stuff with the books got
a lot of people's attention.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, you've got a bunch of different copies in front
of us right now here in New York of books
that are and people who are watching this on video
can see it.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
But these are books.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I want you to tell people out there who may
not be paying attention. These are books that are like,
for instance, this one right here is called I want
to read this Well Become to Saint Hell. My trans
Teene Missadventure this book right now, and I'm holding this up,
but I mean, I'm kind of looking at it. I'm
kind of in disbelief. This would be marketed to what
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age kid based on your understanding, eight to twelve, eight
year old kids would be able to read second grade second,
I have a third grader. This is crazy to me,
My trans Team Misadventure like this would be marketed to
an eight year old second grade kid.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
And what's in it is so lewd and so obscene
that when we pasted one of the pages on a
Facebook ad, Facebook community standards band it and shut it
down for posting obscenity that violates their community standards. And
that's for adults. This is a book for children. And
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this is why I'm on this mission right now to
give parents and grandparents an opportunity to engage and stop
merely complaining about the bad stuff and start creating eating
the good paths that we can go down and build
a world for our children where they've got hope and
a future.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And also, this is significant because you're not saying that
no one should ever be able to read a book
like this. You're just saying second grader shouldn't be exposed
to the idea of trans identity.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
But that's wild. For I mean, I've got a third grader.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
The idea that we would be teaching kids that young
that they are not the gender they think they are
is madness. Because kids that young, at that age, we're
gonna let them pick their gender.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
It's wild. It is wild. And what we're seeing is.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Where do we want to go with this? I mean,
this is a brilliant wedge that will ultimately separate children
from their parents. And I think that is one of
the main goals. When you sexualize children at a young
age and you get them to start questioning basic fundamental
building blocks of society, like am I a void.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Or a girl?
Speaker 6 (29:00):
And I can change that? You are able to then
peak their curiosity, take them down a rabbit hole, and
get them to trust in communities that don't have their
best interest in mind. And then all of a sudden,
the parents are they're the archaic people and they can't
be trusted and they're trans phobe or their whatever phobe,
And pretty soon you've got seven hours a day with
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these kids, all by yourself, to train them into little
Marxist lemmings to do exactly what the state wants them
to do. So look, we can either wind and complain,
or we can get in the game and start moving
the ball in the right direction. That's why I have
partnered up with Brave Books. I've partnered up with Skytree
book Fairs to replace Scholastic and all of this harmful
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stuff and get helpful, wholesome books onto the shelves of
libraries and public schools and private schools across the country.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
You know, Kirk, I know that you've tried to go
to some libraries to rea wholesome, uplifting and worthwhile books.
And this isn't an era of drag Queen Story Hour
and you know some of the trans agenda books and
things you mentioned that seems to be fine with libraries,
but you wanting to read nice, wholesome stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
That's been a problem sometimes at these libraries. What happened?
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Oh yeah, this has been going on for the last year.
I suppose if I just if I just busted out
my fishnet stockings, my mini skirtain heels and showed up
as you know, Kirk Dazzle Glamoroni. I'd have been accepted
with open arms. But because I came in and said, hey,
how about we sing God bless America, recite the Pledge
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of Allegiance, We thank God for giving us such a
special country, and let's read a book about faith, hope
and love. It was a hard no in some libraries.
Now other libraries were like, come on, we want you
to come here. We don't like all of this garbage
that we're getting getting shoved down our throats. When when
they told me I couldn't come, and I reminded them
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that this is America. This is called viewpoint discrimination on
their on their side, and that I would be prepared
to exercise my constitutional rights against them for the discrimination,
they changed their mind. We showed up and three thousand
parents and grandparents were there to welcome us, flooding the library,
making it the most attended event in the history of
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these downtown libraries in blue cities. So the narrative, the
perception is not the reality. Boots on the ground, people
in the trenches, moms and dads and grandparents want the
stuff that leads to their children's blessing and protection. And
we've just got to not be afraid, stand up and
get into the game. I mean, look what Elon Musk
is doing right now. Look how he is championing free
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speech and telling these people to f off if they
want to try to buy his free speech from him
with money. You know, I'd use a different lexicon, But
we need to have the same attitude of if we
trade our freedoms for safety, we'll end up with neither
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because the government will come in and they will shut
down everything, and they're well underway.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I'm fascinated by your path here. A lot of people
out there listening are around mine and Buck's age, and
we grew up watching you on Growing Pains nineteen eighties television.
I like to show nineteen eighties movies to my kids.
There is a wholesomeness to them that doesn't necessarily seem
to exist in our culture today. Would you have ever believed,
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working in Hollywood making a super popular show that twenty
five thirty years after that show you would be going
around trying to get people to read wholesome books, or
that it would even be necessary.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
No, never thought I'd be hanging out with two guys
like Buck and Clay on a radio program like this
talking about essential values, about first principles in the nation,
and in fact, you know, all of this is really
driven by my love for God and my love for
my family, which was really a foreign concept to me,
at least on the God stuff when I was on
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Growing Pains, because I was an atheist at the time,
and I changed.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Why did you change? What happened in your life?
Speaker 6 (33:22):
Well, you know, I could explain it in so many
different ways, but I met a really cute girl who
invited me to church, and not to devolve too far
down just to say that I became a Christian for her,
because I didn't. But what transpired was I believe God
himself opening my eyes through asking questions, getting great answers,
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hearing the message that really captured my heart my mind,
and I went down a road that led me to
believe that it took more faith for me to hang
on to my atheism blind faith to believe that God
does not exist then it did to believe that all
of this came as a result of a powerful, intelligent creator.
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So that's uh, that was a big shift for me.
So the fact that I'm here with you guys talking
about this stuff and pushing back the darkness, making inroads
for the for the kingdom of light, and and and
establishing what's good and right and beautiful for children. Man,
I couldn't be more thankful.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
And how do you think, you know, how do you
think the movement is going kirk to create more content
specifically for for children these days? That has to come
from more independent creators. You know, we're gonna have Daily
Wire guys on and now that's they're making a kind
of a mockumentary or you know, a film that's taking
on the trans issue that's not necessarily for kids. But
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I think they've also done some children's books, and I
think Matt Walsh did a children's book, and they're trying
to create more of this content because you know, it
feels like for the for the average American, if you
believe in traditional values, if you believe in God, like
Disney has abandoned you.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Oh one d Percy, one hundred percent. But you know,
if we could go back and bring Noah Webster back
our founding fathers and John Adams and George Washington and
all the good guys and ask them what's going on,
I imagine they would say something like, Kirk clay Buck,
you never should have depended on Disney in the first place.
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You shouldn't be hanging your hat on companies or organization
that are going to keep these values going. This has
been entrusted to you as dads, as moms. You've got
to teach this stuff to your kids. And at the
heart of the whole thing, you have to understand that
this thing called freedom is a gift from God, and
you've got to protect it, and you've got to nourish it,
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and you've got to just go for it.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
With all of your heart.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Kirk, we really appreciate the time. We know how hard
you are working. If people want to see more of
your work, where should they go, Well, you.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Could follow me on my social media platforms, or better yet,
go to stop scholastic dot com and see the movements
that we are up to this weekend for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
When we come back, we'll break down more on the
Gavin newsom Ron DeSantis debate. We'll circle back to that
which I know Kirk you watched a little bit of
as well. We'll also take you into the weekend final hour,
have some fun, try to give you a little bit
more optimism about everything as we roll you through the
Friday edition of the show fourteen Hours Down, fifteenth hour Next.
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Thanks for hanging with us here on Clay and buy
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back in out number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are
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plus all over this country. So we start off the
first hour speaking a great deal about the Ron de
santis Verroun, the larger context there, and the battle that
has ensued as a result of everything that happened there,
I don't think necessarily anything is going to change in
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the immediate term in terms of what's going to happen
in the Republican primary. But I do think that to
the extent people had been waiting for Ron DeSantis to
really show himself as a bonafide debate assassin. I thought
this was the first time that we saw him really
take somebody apart. And I think Gavin Newsom emerged from
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that battle definitely the worse for wear Okay, buck, we
said we were going to talk about this. Santos, George
Santos from a New York toss up congressional district outside
the city a little bit, has officially been voted out
of Congress. This is the what did you say, the
sixth person or is it the seventh whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So it's the sixth member of the House of Representatives
empty first overall from the entirety of both houses of
Congress to be expelled. But seventeen of the twenty one
in total were expelled for being in the Confederacy.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So the Civil War.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
This is not a very common thing that's happening. The
last one was James Traffic Caan if I remember correctly,
to be expelled from the House, and that happened I
don't know, twenty some odd years ago. And this is
a toss up district.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Only two House members have been expelled since the Civil War.
Michael Myers, not.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
The assassin, although you have a mission that killing many
people on behalf of a if you went around terrorizing
people with a kitchen knife, you probably should be expelled
from Congress because but no different. Michael Myers removed in
nineteen eighty after being convicted of bribery in the ab
scam scandal. And then, as you mentioned, Clay James, trafficant
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of Ohio in two thousand and two convicted of bribery.
I could hearing tax evasion other felonies, But can I
jump into this like what right? There's two sides of this.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
There's the ethical legal component and then there's the political.
I think we start with the ethical legal here. So
now we have you'll notice with all these other people
there was no question about guilt, and so now we
have punishment before a guilty verdict. Yeah, you know, sentence first, sentence, first,
verdict later or whatever. It's not what she says. The
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Queen in uh you know, Alice in Wonderland, this.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Is this is yes, and this is also just a
function of what social media does. I think right we
no longer can wait for court decisions in order to
make results on them. So yes, the precedent now is
what you're saying. This is what troubles me because I know.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
But I did actually a little a little deep dive
podcast on Santos with our friend Ryan ger Dusky. So
if you subscribe to Claim Book podcast feed, we get
into it because he knows him, he knows Ryan, and
Ryan knows him, and and yes, Ryan says that he
is a a compulsive liar, that Santas is a compulsive liar.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
All that is true, But.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Why not wait until he is you know, if he's
convicted of federal crimes, are going to prison? Yeah, you
remove him from Congress, But shouldn't he have his day
in court? I know people are saying, oh, but he's
so clearly guilty. Well, hold on a second, everybody, what
does this leave open? What is the precedent this sets
going forward? And you know, we all saw what they
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did to Kavanaugh. You know, the the evidence free allegations
to stop a Supreme Court justice.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
You don't think they'll come up with something. You don't
think they'll be able.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
To concoct what seems like, oh my gosh, overwhelming, you know,
either through testimony or whatever, to take down a Republican
at some point in the future.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
The whole, the whole.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
System we have is premised on you should have your
day in court, and you should be able to make
a defense of yourself, no matter how absurd it may be, right, Clay,
you're the lawyer.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, no, right, this this undermines that.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So I think there is a principle here being and
we haven't gotten to the politics out of this, which
I want to when Senator Menendez and whys and heating expelled,
But I mean, don't don't you see this the same
way This sets a I don't care what you think
about Santos, this sets a troubling precedent.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Well, and you just hit on something that I think
points that the precedent is not being evenly applied, which
is Democrat New Jersey Senator Robert Menendez, who is accused
by the federal government a far more serious I would say,
charges than anything Santos did. Santos, to me, Buck was
kind of just an incompetent liar who exaggerated like almost
(05:38):
fabulous tales and oftentimes to no particular benefit, right, like
lying about being a member of a for instance, volleyball
team in a men's volleyball team in New York.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I don't even remember college at city University.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I know, I've spent some time at the various city
universities for different reasons. In New York, at some of
the cunity locations, volleyball is not one of the primary sports.
Like you're you're usually not on the on the cuny
croquet team either.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, and by the way, nobody voted for him because
of that lie. Right, he is a like almost irredeemable
in the sense like fabuloust and liar, but a lot
of his lies didn't actually benefit him or detract from
his ability to be a congressman in the same way.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
That the allegain.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Look, they said that Robert Menendez sold his influence to
a foreign country in order to personally benefit like he's already.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Menendez went to federal federal trial once before criminal trial
on on you know, basically you know, bribery charges. The
melgan I believe was the guy he was tied to
the eye surgeon. I think Trump commuted or pardoned him.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Am I right about this?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Might have pardoned him, but there was some someone checked
that one for me. But uh, he faced trial before
and it was a hung jury, I believe right. I
think it was elected not to try him again. I
think or well hungary and then miss trials that how
it goes, right, and so they liketed not to try
him again. Now they're trying him again on selling, as
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you said, giving secrets basically or you know, a sense
of information a foreign country if we can. This is
the politics side of it.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Everyone.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
If Republicans say we have to kick out Santos because
he's so guilty, menandoes look pretty guilty to me and
I guar there's not even a conversation among Democrats that
they're going to kick out. Even though they go Democrat
governor New Jersey, they're not going to lose one of
their senators until they absolutely have to.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Not only do they have a Democrat senator, his wife
is running to replace Menndez, which has not gotten a
lot of attention so far. There are many different I
think three or four different people running, and it's likely
that Menindez is going to get replaced.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
And that's why I think you're right here.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I also don't think Menindez should have to step down
based on allegations.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Again, these are allegations.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Voters next year, in eleven months, we're going to make
a decision on Santos. So now my understanding is Buck,
you're gonna end up with an election in February or March,
and then you're gonna follow it up again with another
election in November and the primary season. Santos wasn't going
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to even be the representative for Republicans going forward.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Can I blow your mind right now, Clay, you're ready
for this. I don't know if you've even seen this.
You see what Fetterman said about this issue. On the
view you already had to give Fetterman and I did
two a high five on saying things on Israel that
made perfect sense to us. Yes, you know, Israel's right
to defend it self, Hamasa's terrorist entity, full stop. Fetterman's
been good on Israel. I'm not going to trash Fetterman.
You know what he says on things, just because I
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think on other things he's you know, way off base here.
He is on the Santos.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
And Menendez issue. Listen to twenty five.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I'm not surprised. But to me, I think the more
important picture is that we have a colleague in this
Senate that actually does much more sinister and serious kinds
of things, Senator Menendez.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
He needs to go.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
And if you are going to expel Santos, how can
you allow to somebody like Menendez to remain in the Senate.
And you know, Santos's kind of lies, we're almost you know,
funny and like you know, he you know, landed on
the moon and guy kind of stuff. Whereas whereas you know,
you know, I think you know, Menendez, I think is
really a senator for Egypt, you know, not in New Jersey.
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So I really think he needs to.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Go play everything he says there. Do you disagree with
a single word?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
He sounds like me, he almost, I'd like, Look, I
disagree with the precedent that he wants to follow, and
that in that I don't think we should get rid
of Santos, and I don't think we should get rid
of Menendez.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I think we should wait, let voters do it.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But the men stuff is more serious, more serious, and
at least he's trying to be consistent.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Other Democrats are just making it up as they go.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
He's standing on the principle that he thinks you should
be removed in situations such as these, which I disagree with.
But the logic under which he is making his argument
is the same that we just made on this show.
And I can't believe I'm saying this, but Fetterman is
actually rational and consistent in a way that very few
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politicians are able to be rational and consistent, even if
I sometimes disagree with him, And I look, I think
that the idea that Pennsylvania elected this guy is absurd.
But he's one hundred percent right on Israel, and he's
at least willing to stand on principle. He just made
the same argument we did on Santo's Compared to Benindez.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Has there been a Democrat senator who has racked up
two high five moments on this show over the past year.
I'm just saying more wins for sanity than other Senate. Now,
you could say that's an incredibly low bar and they're
all crazy, okay, But I mean he's better than some
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of the rest so far, it seems, Which is what does.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That tell you I mean, yes, that's crazy. And by
the way, speaking of what does that tell you?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
You know what? It's funny buck.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I was yesterday talking to my fifteen year old and
he was trying to track down his thirteen year old brother.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
And you know what we're trying to do.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
We're trying to keep our kids from getting cell phones
too early. So we have said you have to be
fourteen year years old. My boys, you have to be
fourteen years old until you can get a cell phone.
And some of you out there are like, man, Clay,
that's too early. Others of you out there are like,
oh my goodness, how did you wait till fourteen? My
fifteen year old called me on his pure talk phone
and he said, Dad, this is ridiculous. I said, what
(11:43):
you what's ridiculous?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Fox?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
He said, you have to get your brother, my brother
a cell phone. I can't find him and we're supposed
to be getting in the car together and I don't
know where he is. He was supposed to be meeting
me on their campus where their school is, and he's
not at basketball practice and I can't find him anywhere
and I can't track him down. He said, you have
to get your brother a phone, and I said, I
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can't believe that you're actually arguing in favor of your
brother getting something, because usually you always say, as every
kid does, I'm getting treated unfairly. You know why he's
doing that, Buck, because pure talk has been so awesome
for him. Puretalk is how I keep in touch with
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can't rely.
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We're going to tell you why that's coming up next,
but first go get that cell phone.
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The Voices of Sanity in an Insane World, Claye Travis said,
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Welcome back, everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
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You want to tell me what's going on with the
White House right now? What's the latest?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Fuck?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Have you ever gone through the White House regardless of
who's in office around Christmas and just seeing how awesome
they do with Christmas decorations and everything else. It's actually
they have like special Christmas tours. I did it back
when I was in college. I think I went with
a girl and it was probably a pretty good way
to you know, impress her, like oh, it's like, oh,
it's the festive season everything else. So it's actually really
(15:26):
well done. They put up huge decorations. You ever been
around the holiday, I've actually never been during the I
was invited to a White House Christmas party under Trump,
but I didn't go because there was some reasons.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Yeah, some drama. But we talked about this.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
The last two years, the Biden White House has made
a big deal of hanging Christmas stockings for each of
the Biden grandchildren. And they've hung six because they say
they have six grandchildren. Well, of course, there's a four
year old in Arkansas who is the child of Hunter Biden,
illegitimate child of Hunter Biden, and the Biden family refused
(16:03):
to acknowledge her and it turned into a story and
they said, well, why do you only have six Christmas stockings?
So Joe Biden, supposedly a nice guy, decides he's finally
going to acknowledge his seventh grandchild. Guess what they did
this year, For the first time that the Bidens are
in the White House, they removed all of the Christmas stockings,
so rather than hang seven and acknowledge that they have
(16:26):
a seventh granddaughter. Remember, it was the public shaming basically
even of left wing media. I think the New York
Times Marine Dowd said, you know, this is like a
really awful thing to do, to not acknowledge your granddaughter.
Now they are pulling all of the Christmas stockings rather
than have to acknowledge that they have seven grandchildren.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Now do you go.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
All out with I mean, I know you're your Halloween
party and for Halloween you the Travis household, You guys go,
you and Laura and the kids all in on Halloween decorations?
Are you big on because my mother she could be
like the cover of you know, an old Sears catalog
or something. In terms of the Christmas decoration she does
at the Sex and Home in New York.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Are you big into it? Yeah, Laura goes.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I mean, it's not as many things as for Halloween,
but we have a lot of lights up. And you'll
appreciate this because I thought it was pretty smart. We
let my kids pick their Christmas stockings. Probably like five
or six years ago, my middle son bought basically a
burlap sock to be his burlap sack to be his
(17:27):
Christmas stocking, with the idea being that it's going to
get filled up even more with presents. So it was
a brilliant move by him. But literally that we have
a fireplace with a stocking. Now everybody has gotten the
same size stocking. That is like a you could basically
travel to Europe with this thing.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
You know. I'm wondering if people agree with me on this.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I'll put this out there as well, a little bit
of an early thing for Christmas play. But in my family,
and I will say it was my idea and it
was about a decade ago because we no one had
there were no grand kids in the picture. Yet we
don't do gifts among the adults. Oh do meals together
and Christmas together and all, but we don't. We don't
give because at some point you've gotten your fourth Hunter
(18:11):
green Lands end sweater in a row and having to say, oh, thank.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
You, and the thought that counts. I think it's over.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I think for employees and for people who work for
you or with you or whatever, give them gifts. But
what do you think within the family adults, not for
the kids. Kids get gifts, but adults no gift.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I don't think that's an awful move. In fact, when
we started having kids, I said, hey, I don't need anything.
I can buy whatever I want, get my kids better
gifts than you otherwise would, and spend that money on them.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
I think that's a good play. That's I like that.
I like that.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Clay Travis and buck Sexton on the front Lines of Truth.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Friday edition of the program. Remain open phone mines.
We'll take some of your calls. Eight hundred and two
A two two eight A two uh. In the third hours,
we continue to roll on, giving a little bit of
a roadmap. Kirk Cameron, formerly of Growing Pains Now and
author children's book author who is often believe it or not,
(19:09):
I can't believe this is the world we live in,
protested at his library readings. He's gonna join us at
the end of this hour and the next hour we're
gonna be joined by Jeremy Boring, Ben Shapiro, Daily Wire.
Guys have a new movie out. I have a small
part in that movie. Ridiculing the idea of men being
able to compete as women. I think people are gonna
enjoy it. I went and watch the premiere on Wednesday night.
(19:30):
I was kind of impressed at how solid it was.
How did you feel about your acting debut? Is this
are we gonna see more of Clay Travis thespian I
cannot act. If I am given the opportunity to play myself,
I think I'm decent at it.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I'm not good at remembering lines. Gets in my head.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I worry about whether I'm standing the right place, saying
the right thing. But if you just tell me like
general idea, Hey, let's just go have a two minute
conversation here, I think I do. Okay, I seem more natural,
if that makes sense. So I think I didn't. I
was not awful. I asked my wife. She went to
the premiere, and I said, hey, what did you think
of my performance? It's not like I'm in I'm like
two minutes in the movie, maybe that in an hour
(20:11):
and a half. And she said, you actually weren't as
awful as I thought you were going to be, which
as a married man, I will take as a compliment.
By the way we can speaking of compliments yesterday, If
you remember Buck, when I said maybe I said it
off air. I can't remember if I said it on
air off air, I know you and I talked about it.
Our good buddy Brian Stelter, he of the former STEALTHI.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Of extremely high testosterol levels.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Brian Stelter, who had his show canceled on CNN as
soon as there was a new leadership group that came in.
I believe he's now and I can't believe this is real.
I think he's a fellow maybe you call it a
fellow at Harvard who teaches a course on misinformation and disinformation,
despite the fact that he spread probably more disinformation and
(21:00):
disinformation than almost anyone surrounding Russia, collusion and everything else.
He went on the View and he told the ladies
on the View, you guys are louder than the liars,
maybe the largest collection of dumb people ever on live television.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Here's what you missed yesterday, Fox.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Though it still is the beating heart of the GOP,
I think it's really important to study it for that reason.
We have to know how it works and how it
sometimes doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
How it goes wrong, because we should all have a
Kate to have a truthier, healthier environment.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
That's why I love this show, because a loud than
the liars, than the liar. I just really want all
of you to like me. Please, please applaud.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
He wrote a book buck about how awful Fox News
is and nobody bought it.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Kind of be a it's just do better man like that.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That book's been written by fifteen other libs and all
those books sucked.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
So why why even waste the time?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I mean again, I've got Fox News and I've got
CNN on right now, and I spend a lot of
time obviously on Fox News. I just I don't see
this argument that is out there that somehow Fox News
is spreading all sorts of awful propaganda when MSNBC and
CNN around COVID spread more lies than anybody.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I mean, why can't we have one now?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
People are going to say they're going to bring up,
you know, a Newsmax for example, or News Nation or
some of the others. They have not been able to
have the same kind of carriage. That may have changed recently,
but you know, with cable, you got to have the
cable carriers pick you up and for twenty plus years now,
Fox has been the only conservative cable news network that
(22:46):
has basically full spectrum cable coverage. Right, we can't you
can't have one channel that leans right without all the
libs whining about it. ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, CNN, MSNBC, NPR.
They are all Lib dominated run and propaganda outfits. Yes,
and they still whined about Fox. Maybe they should just
(23:08):
not have to think why is Fox News so powerful? Maybe
because I forget who originated this quote, but you know,
Roger Ales figured out that there's this niche audience of
half the country that may watch this channel.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
And by the way, you've seen some of these protests
that have been going on. I was at Fox earlier today,
I'll be there again tomorrow morning at the twelve eleven building.
All these Palestinian supporters have been rallying outside of Fox
News because they're too supportive of Israel. Think about how
crazy that criticism is.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Fox News is too supportive of the country that had
a massive terror attack perpetrated against it. Fox has stood
up against the demonization of Jewish people too much. That's
what they're being protested for now. And what you're seeing
is and I know a lot of you out there
are listening to us that maybe you weren't before. There
are a lot of Jewish people out there and supporters
of Israel, may or may not be Jewish, who have said,
(23:58):
you know, the media has actually broke and they're seeing
it for the first time through the prism of the
October seventh tear attack.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And you know, sometimes an issue really does come down
to right and wrong. I mean, just as clear as day.
You know, last night in the DeSantis Knewsom debate, they
talked about about abortion, and you can tell Gavin Newsom
all nine months of a pregnancy, no exceptions whatsoever. That
is the law in California and there are a lot
of abortions still happening in that state and other states too.
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So there's a fight for life that's underway every day.
And we know about all the covers that Planned Parento
has across the country. The abortion industry is huge. Who
is pushing against this to try to save babies' lives.
The Preborn Network of Clinics. The team at Preborn work
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Speaker 4 (25:11):
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Subscribe today, All right, Team special treat here on Clay
and Buck. Actor Kirk Cameron is with play in New
York in studio. You all know him from Growing Pains,
but also the books that he's been writing and the
efforts he's been, uh, he's been giving to try to
make sure the kids are actually reading good stuff and
not the some of the filth that's in schools. His
(26:24):
latest book is The Fox, the Fair and the Invention
Scar Invention Scare, which sounds very interesting. Uh, Clay, I'm
gonna let you take it away with Kirk there in
studio because you guys are right there. But you know,
obviously last night the desantist stuff with the books got
a lot of people's attention.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, you've got a bunch of different copies in front
of us right now here in New York of books
that are and people who are watching this on video
can see it.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
But these are books.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I want you to tell people out there who may
not be paying attention. These are books that are like,
for instance, this one right here is called I want
to read this Well Become to Saint Hell. My trans
Teene Missadventure this book right now, and I'm holding this up,
but I mean, I'm kind of looking at it. I'm
kind of in disbelief. This would be marketed to what
(27:12):
age kid based on your understanding, eight to twelve, eight
year old kids would be able to read second grade second,
I have a third grader. This is crazy to me,
My trans Team Misadventure like this would be marketed to
an eight year old second grade kid.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
And what's in it is so lewd and so obscene
that when we pasted one of the pages on a
Facebook ad, Facebook community standards band it and shut it
down for posting obscenity that violates their community standards. And
that's for adults. This is a book for children. And
(27:48):
this is why I'm on this mission right now to
give parents and grandparents an opportunity to engage and stop
merely complaining about the bad stuff and start creating eating
the good paths that we can go down and build
a world for our children where they've got hope and
a future.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And also, this is significant because you're not saying that
no one should ever be able to read a book
like this. You're just saying second grader shouldn't be exposed
to the idea of trans identity.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
But that's wild. For I mean, I've got a third grader.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
The idea that we would be teaching kids that young
that they are not the gender they think they are
is madness. Because kids that young, at that age, we're
gonna let them pick their gender.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
It's wild. It is wild. And what we're seeing is.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Where do we want to go with this? I mean,
this is a brilliant wedge that will ultimately separate children
from their parents. And I think that is one of
the main goals. When you sexualize children at a young
age and you get them to start questioning basic fundamental
building blocks of society, like am I a void.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Or a girl?
Speaker 6 (29:00):
And I can change that? You are able to then
peak their curiosity, take them down a rabbit hole, and
get them to trust in communities that don't have their
best interest in mind. And then all of a sudden,
the parents are they're the archaic people and they can't
be trusted and they're trans phobe or their whatever phobe,
And pretty soon you've got seven hours a day with
(29:22):
these kids, all by yourself, to train them into little
Marxist lemmings to do exactly what the state wants them
to do. So look, we can either wind and complain,
or we can get in the game and start moving
the ball in the right direction. That's why I have
partnered up with Brave Books. I've partnered up with Skytree
book Fairs to replace Scholastic and all of this harmful
(29:46):
stuff and get helpful, wholesome books onto the shelves of
libraries and public schools and private schools across the country.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
You know, Kirk, I know that you've tried to go
to some libraries to rea wholesome, uplifting and worthwhile books.
And this isn't an era of drag Queen Story Hour
and you know some of the trans agenda books and
things you mentioned that seems to be fine with libraries,
but you wanting to read nice, wholesome stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
That's been a problem sometimes at these libraries. What happened?
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Oh yeah, this has been going on for the last year.
I suppose if I just if I just busted out
my fishnet stockings, my mini skirtain heels and showed up
as you know, Kirk Dazzle Glamoroni. I'd have been accepted
with open arms. But because I came in and said, hey,
how about we sing God bless America, recite the Pledge
(30:43):
of Allegiance, We thank God for giving us such a
special country, and let's read a book about faith, hope
and love. It was a hard no in some libraries.
Now other libraries were like, come on, we want you
to come here. We don't like all of this garbage
that we're getting getting shoved down our throats. When when
they told me I couldn't come, and I reminded them
(31:03):
that this is America. This is called viewpoint discrimination on
their on their side, and that I would be prepared
to exercise my constitutional rights against them for the discrimination,
they changed their mind. We showed up and three thousand
parents and grandparents were there to welcome us, flooding the library,
making it the most attended event in the history of
(31:25):
these downtown libraries in blue cities. So the narrative, the
perception is not the reality. Boots on the ground, people
in the trenches, moms and dads and grandparents want the
stuff that leads to their children's blessing and protection. And
we've just got to not be afraid, stand up and
get into the game. I mean, look what Elon Musk
is doing right now. Look how he is championing free
(31:47):
speech and telling these people to f off if they
want to try to buy his free speech from him
with money. You know, I'd use a different lexicon, But
we need to have the same attitude of if we
trade our freedoms for safety, we'll end up with neither
(32:07):
because the government will come in and they will shut
down everything, and they're well underway.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I'm fascinated by your path here. A lot of people
out there listening are around mine and Buck's age, and
we grew up watching you on Growing Pains nineteen eighties television.
I like to show nineteen eighties movies to my kids.
There is a wholesomeness to them that doesn't necessarily seem
to exist in our culture today. Would you have ever believed,
(32:38):
working in Hollywood making a super popular show that twenty
five thirty years after that show you would be going
around trying to get people to read wholesome books, or
that it would even be necessary.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
No, never thought I'd be hanging out with two guys
like Buck and Clay on a radio program like this
talking about essential values, about first principles in the nation,
and in fact, you know, all of this is really
driven by my love for God and my love for
my family, which was really a foreign concept to me,
at least on the God stuff when I was on
(33:13):
Growing Pains, because I was an atheist at the time,
and I changed.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Why did you change? What happened in your life?
Speaker 6 (33:22):
Well, you know, I could explain it in so many
different ways, but I met a really cute girl who
invited me to church, and not to devolve too far
down just to say that I became a Christian for her,
because I didn't. But what transpired was I believe God
himself opening my eyes through asking questions, getting great answers,
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hearing the message that really captured my heart my mind,
and I went down a road that led me to
believe that it took more faith for me to hang
on to my atheism blind faith to believe that God
does not exist then it did to believe that all
of this came as a result of a powerful, intelligent creator.
(34:09):
So that's uh, that was a big shift for me.
So the fact that I'm here with you guys talking
about this stuff and pushing back the darkness, making inroads
for the for the kingdom of light, and and and
establishing what's good and right and beautiful for children. Man,
I couldn't be more thankful.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
And how do you think, you know, how do you
think the movement is going kirk to create more content
specifically for for children these days? That has to come
from more independent creators. You know, we're gonna have Daily
Wire guys on and now that's they're making a kind
of a mockumentary or you know, a film that's taking
on the trans issue that's not necessarily for kids. But
(34:47):
I think they've also done some children's books, and I
think Matt Walsh did a children's book, and they're trying
to create more of this content because you know, it
feels like for the for the average American, if you
believe in traditional values, if you believe in God, like
Disney has abandoned you.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Oh one d Percy, one hundred percent. But you know,
if we could go back and bring Noah Webster back
our founding fathers and John Adams and George Washington and
all the good guys and ask them what's going on,
I imagine they would say something like, Kirk clay Buck,
you never should have depended on Disney in the first place.
(35:24):
You shouldn't be hanging your hat on companies or organization
that are going to keep these values going. This has
been entrusted to you as dads, as moms. You've got
to teach this stuff to your kids. And at the
heart of the whole thing, you have to understand that
this thing called freedom is a gift from God, and
you've got to protect it, and you've got to nourish it,
(35:45):
and you've got to just go for it.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
With all of your heart.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Kirk, we really appreciate the time. We know how hard
you are working. If people want to see more of
your work, where should they go, Well, you.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Could follow me on my social media platforms, or better yet,
go to stop scholastic dot com and see the movements
that we are up to this weekend for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
When we come back, we'll break down more on the
Gavin newsom Ron DeSantis debate. We'll circle back to that
which I know Kirk you watched a little bit of
as well. We'll also take you into the weekend final hour,
have some fun, try to give you a little bit
more optimism about everything as we roll you through the
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