July 27, 2023 • 36 mins
Rep. Jim Jordan tweets smoking-gun docs proving Facebook censored Americans because of Biden White House pressure. Buck takes heat for his UFO stance. Rep. Nancy Mace joins Clay and Buck to discuss Trump, Hunter Biden, the UFO hearings, and going viral for a sex joke at a prayer breakfast. C&B argue over UFOs, Bigfoot.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We got a bunch coming your way.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Several guests coming down the stretch run here in the
next two hours. Let me go ahead and tell you
where we're going there. Nancy Mays is going to join
us at one thirty. She was the congresswoman who asked
the question about people being We have to make sure
we have that audio cued up, guys at one thirty
for Nancy Mace. That made all of you decide that
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you hated Buck because Nancy Mace asked the question have
there been basically non human remains pulled.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Out of spacecraft?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And yesterday testimony surrounding UFOs, that was the answer. It
has gone viral. It is everywhere. She has also been
on the show several times before. I think we'll have
a good conversation with her and it will reinforce yet
again for all of you listening right now, why you
trust me on aliens far more than you trust Buck.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I don't know what else to say other than for
all of you who are on Team Sanity slash Team Reality,
it's uh there's plenty of space over here. Okay, we're
not talking about little spots on a screen. To be clear,
We're now being told that they pulled alien bodies out
of a spacecraft and we're able to hide this. That
was the testimony yesterday. I'm sorry, but the Buckster's not buying.
(01:22):
Not happened.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
At two, Senator JD. Vans will join us. We'll ask
Kem whether he believes in aliens. And at two point thirty,
Senator Tommy Tuberville from Alabama, who Buck already misidentified as
the former Alabama football coach. Thankfully without Tommy Tumbervill being
on the air, Tommy tumberwill famous quote Buck I.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Was very close to giving him a role tiede, so
I'm glad to established that in advance.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I think one of the all time great quotes. He
was the head coach of old Miss. That's the University
of Mississippi for those of you out there that are
not in the Southern regions. Head coach at Ole Miss.
They asked him, would you ever leave Old Miss to
go to Auburn? And Tommy Tuberville said, the only way
I would ever leave Oxford is in a pine box,
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meaning if he was dead to be buried. He then
took the Auburn job, which is just I mean, I
love SEC football more than anything. Right, you guys out
there listening know this. That is one of the all
time great SEC football coaches. I'll give you another one
buck while you're while you're while you're thinking about this.
When they they were talking about Kentucky earlier, Kentucky had
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football coach moved down to move down to Alabama, and
they asked him, you know, they they asked him. The
question was she was speaking with her with her minister,
and they said, you know, football is really important down there.
Uh and uh and and and they said it's almost
(02:53):
like a religion. And the head football coach's wife, Bill
Curry's wife said, oh no, it's much more important than that.
So religion important. Alabama football much more important than religion
when you experience that. So we're going to talk about
all that and more that's still to come. But buck
right off the top here. There are some revelations that
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are coming down from our friend Jim Jordan's Twitter account
which are I would say smoking gun evidence of what
many of us anticipated was the case for some time.
And that is evidence that the Biden White House in
emails was demanding explicitly that postings on Facebook from people
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that they considered to be their political enemies be removed
or there would be big consequences for Facebook from the
Biden White House. Now Buck, what I would say in
general about this is one this is often the case
that email makes cases that would otherwise never be able
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to be made made. And so you'll now see sometimes
people want to have phone calls because they don't want
to put in writing what they might say on a
phone call. But it speaks, I think, to the overall
power that the Biden White House felt that their covid
zars and their misinformations, ares Buck were completely comfortable writing
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in emails what they expected to happen and what the
consequences would be if it didn't happen, in terms of
restricting the dissemination of information that they found to be
contrary to the narrative that they wanted to share.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Interesting that there's a left wing, left wing reporter who
shared out yesterday, Ryan Grimm. He called out The New
York Times. He's a man of the left. I mean,
he's a socialist basically right, and I don't even I
think I'm just describing. I'm not editorializing. I think he
would self describe as a democratic socialist. I believe, if
(05:02):
I'm wrong, apologists, he's a left wing guy. And he
even said, he said the old New York Times, when
seeing that the Covid czars of the CDC the NIH
were intentionally misleading the public about the lab leak theory
and working to suppress the truth with the public, and
(05:26):
that The New York Times had been a part of that,
they would have said, all right, we've got to assign
reporters to this. We've got to get to the bottom
of this. We have to do something about this to
regain some sense of basic integrity. Yes, but the current
New York Times knows they were fauci acolytes. They were
there to do the bidding. They were the propaganda organ
it. It doesn't matter that they were lied to and therefore
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also part of the lie to their own readers, because
their own readers don't want to know the truth. This
is a dramatic change. I grew up in a household
where the change a number of years ago. I grew
up in a house old with The New York Times
delivered every day, the paper version of it, and that's
what my dad mom read every single day. And you know,
it was always liberal, it was always Democrat. But in
the last ten or fifteen years, it's just become a
(06:11):
rag of insanity.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I'll give you an example of that, Buck, And this
is where we talked and I wrote something about this
with The Washington Post. The subscription model has actually turned
the New York Times and the Washington Post into Democrat
fan sites. They don't actually do investigation. They make people
who are on the left feel happy that they're on
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the Democrat team. And that is their base, that is
their subscription base, and that's why they can't ever make
him unhappy. But do you remember when you remember Jason Blair? Oh,
you go out there, who'd forgotten this? Jason Blair was
a New York Times reporter who had written several different
front page stories and it came out that he had
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basically never even left New York City and he was
claiming that he was in all these different places and
the sideline, Yeah, total fabricator they did. And this this
builds on what you're talking about. And I read that
thread that you're that you're referencing they did a complete analysis.
They brought in a whole new reporting team and they
(07:18):
reported on Jason Blair's lies and they disclosed it to
their entire audience as a testament to their commitment to journalism.
We had this guy who was a fabricator on staff.
Kind of like for people out there who remember remember
Stephen Glass, Remember the Stephens.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I saw the movie.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
There was a movie Glass, Fat fabulous movie, that same thing, Like,
you have a talented reporter who basically decides that he's
going to make up all these different fantastic details. Stephen
Glass was even wilder because he had all these incredible
revelatory stories. They were really funny, they were interesting. He
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basically was a fabulous student, a fiction writer instead of
a journalist because he was a talented guy. And New
York Times put an entire investigative team on Jason Blair
and they did an entire analysis of everything they got
wrong if they were an honest news gathering organization.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
In the wake of all.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Of these emails coming out showing that they were lied to,
that their COVID experts were manipulated and lied to to
try to prevent the lab link theory from ever coming
out And let me just say, as an a Sidebuck,
this is really funny. I think when you really analyze it,
Not only did they lie to us about where COVID
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came from, they said it was racist if we said
that COVID might have leaked from a Chinese lab. That
was one of the New York Times talking points. That
was one of the Fauciites talking points. And Buck, what
did they say that it came from? Instead, they said
it came from a Chinese wet market where they have
all these crazy animals that people will eat, and it's unsanitory, unsanitary,
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and it's messy, and that's how the virus spread.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
And it was zoonautic transmission, was what they were telling everybody.
And so then the whole world was googling pengolin because honestly,
who the heck knew what a penglin was before? This?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Isn't that actually more racist?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Like if you really think about it, this place is
so dirty and people eat so many different crazy animals
and it's so disgusting there that viruses spread through these
wet markets like mad, That to me seems more racist
than oh, we had this lab and it accidentally escaped
because we didn't have the proper protocols in place.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Well, I'm not sure. I mean the race, the race
component of it was just that we couldn't say it
was from China period, So I don't think they.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Well, but they were not arguing that it came from elsewhere.
They were arguing that it came from the Chinese wet
market in Wuhan as opposed to the laboratory.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Right, but we couldn't say Wuhan coronavirus. If you remember,
it couldn't matter chinavirus China super race, right. So it's
I think we discussed on the show where the whole
wet market thing comes, which is a great reminder of
how destructive communism actually is, because people started eating random
animals and then raising random wild animals in China because
the Maoist Great Leap Forward resulted in a massive famine
(10:13):
that killed tens of millions of people. This was back
in the late fifties early sixties, and so people were
eating frogs and pangolins and whatever they could get. But
then it became not only a sort of tradition among
Chinese rural areas, but also a business at the Chinese
Communist Party was making money off of because they would
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sell these exotic animals in these markets for people to eat.
But back to the New York Times component of this,
I've said this all along. There is no shame for
any of the outlets that got everything wrong and that
were part of official government propaganda that was lies about
COVID or that were lies about COVID, because their job
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wasn't to tell the public the truth in their own eyes,
their job was to root for their team. They the
New York Times effectively views themselves as the pr and
like they're almost like the lawyers of the Democrat Party.
They're just there to make the case. It doesn't matter
what's true.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And that's why the analogy there of are they going
to hold themselves accountable in any way? And the answer,
certainly for all of Russia collusion was no. Not only
did they make tons of money by signing up people
with the idea that Russia was taken over Donald Trump
and that he was the Manchurian candidate. They gave themselves
Politzer Prizes. They take back the Heisman Trophy Buck when
(11:33):
they find out that he got paid in college football.
They won't let Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame
because he bet on baseball. Wouldn't you think at a minimum,
the Politzer would take back the Pulitzer Awards that it
gave out when it was determined that all of the
Politzers were based on lies.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I would argue that the Politzer Prize is awarded for
an achievement in propaganda in assistance to the Democrat left
in America. Now, I don't think that I think that
it's changed effectively. I don't think that it really is
supposed to represent journalism anymore. And and so that's why
it doesn't. That's why it doesn't change, right, otherwise they
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would have to otherwise they'd have to go back. But
they also don't want to admit that they did anything
that was assisting their side at the expense of the truth,
because then a lot of us would look at them
and say, and it's not the only time you guys
do that, by the way, you know, once they start
to admit it, it opens up the opens up the floodgates.
I think of what everyone has seen in recent years.
(12:31):
I mean, it's a shame, but it really is now.
I mean, media is turning into it's like warring editorial
pages all the time. People don't even there's no and
it actually goes beyond that because people would say, what
are you doing like you employed to it. Yeah, we
tell people where we stand, what our opinions are, and
present them as such, but we still have to try
to present everything in a factual Everything we say is
(12:51):
true as a matter of fact, we want to say
as true. I do believe that the Democrat aligned media
no longer cares, and that's the Hunter Biden laptops a
perfect example of that, meaning that the factual basis can
be relegated to such a low status that as long
as it helps the Democrats, that doesn't matter. You know
what I mean, Lies are entirely acceptable now as part
(13:13):
of their editorialized I.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Don't think you could point to anything that we've done
in two plus years that has been factually dishonest. You
can disagree with our opinions, but I don't think that
factually in two plus years, and if we get something wrong,
if we attribute a tweet that didn't actually we come
back in say.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Kentucky, we just we just did this in real teals
and we thought on Kentucky and we had people that
knew a little more about that state than they called
in and we corrected in real time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yes, so you can disagree with opinions, but in terms
of factual basis, there is I don't think anything in
two plus years that you could point to and say, oh,
they got that fact wrong. And to your point, there
is no common set of facts that the Democrats now
will accept at the Washington Post, in the New York Times.
And the craziest thing, and maybe the most unfair thing
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of all this is they constantly accuse us of information
when Russia collusion is the biggest misinformation covid is and
I would argue the laptop and the fifty one intelligence
agents is the most successful element of misinformation in modern
American political history.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
The only misinformation on this show is Clay's belief that
little Green Men were pulled out of a UFO by
the government. I'm just throwing it out there, everybody. We'll
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(14:36):
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A lot of people have gotten this one. Well, we
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Speaker 1 (16:05):
Truth after Truth, you can handle the truth. Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton, All.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Right, welcome back. We got Nancy Mays joining us shortly.
Do we have the audio from yesterday about the so
called the basically the Little Green Men?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Do we have that?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Guys? Let's just remind everybody about what was said under
oath on Capitol Hill yesterday at a congressional hearing.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Play it if you believe we have crashed craft stated earlier,
do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted
this craft?
Speaker 5 (16:35):
As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview,
biologics came with some of these recoveries.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah, were they, I guess human or non human?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Biologics non human? And that was the assessment of people
which recknowledge on the program I talked to that are
currently still on the program.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Clay, I'm just going to tell you right now. Our
Vip Douglas, who is a gentleman and a scholar, wrote
in I've been wanting to sign up and finally did
because I can't believe this is my first note. I
have to defend Buck, mainly because I can't believe I
have to. There are so many reasons scientific and logically
we have never been visited by aliens. But just using
Clay's own point, what is the point of covering it up?
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And even if, for unknown reasons the government did cover
it up every time these aliens visited, they never landed
in other countries or other places only where the government
bureaucrafts could control it. Are you kidding me? Boom Douglas
with a nuclear bomb of truth. I appreciate the Douglas
is now VIP. I think he's hundred percent wrong.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think that Douglas Douglas might be a plan. He's
sudden a buck's awfully convenient. He suddenly decides that he
has to sign up and send in an email, ripping
the idea that aliens might exist.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I don't believe you're undermining cousin Doug like this. That's
all I can say.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I'm just saying Doug feels like he might be a
plant from big government trying to convince us that aliens
don't exist. We'll see what happens. We'll get Nancy Mason here.
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Speaker 2 (19:02):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. I believe
we have Congresswoman Nancy Mace with us right now to
talk about why Buck's so wrong about aliens. But first,
Donald Trump just posted on truth Social We've been talking
about this latest potential indictment coming in Washington, d C.
I want to give it to all of you, and
I also want to get Congressman Mace's thoughts on this.
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My attorneys had a productive meeting with the DOJ this morning,
explaining in detail that I did nothing wrong. Was advised
by many lawyers, and that an indictment of me would
only further destroy our country. No indication of notice was
given during the meeting. Do not trust the fake news
on anything exclamation point, Congresswoman Nancy Mace with us now
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that just came down from Donald Trump. I know you
haven't always agreed with Donald Trump on everything, but I
bet you will agree that another indictment, this one coming
in Washington, d c. Would not be good for the nation.
How would you assess the latest potential indictment.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Well, it's not good for the nation. It's not good
for democracy. When the president's administration is arresting his number
one political opponent, that's not good for anybody in the
short term or the long term. And it's not healthy
for our country. It's very divisious, and we've got to
move forward and unify our country at some point after
the nomination process, and this is not the way.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Congressman Mace, what do you think about what happened yesterday
with Hunter Biden trying to get not just a sweetheart
plea deal for charges that have been brought formally in
an indictment, but to get immunity from the possibility of
a future federal felony indictment, and the judge decided that
that was just too much to stomach. What do you
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think of that and what happens next?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Thank God for the judge in this case who saw
it for what it was as plea deal. And this
guy wanted to be to get off on any crime
for anything, for any reason, at any point in his life,
for imperfetuity forever in the future. And that's not how
this works.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I mean, this.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Sweetheart deal that he got is highly unusual for anyone
to get if you're doing a plea deal in the
middle of an investigation. And so you know, thank God
that she did the right thing. And I also want
to know too, is what is he being investigated for?
Is it for operating illegally as a foreign agent, Is
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it for bribery? Is it for money laundering? Racketeering? Like?
What's all this forward? So we have a lot more
questions today than we had yesterday. But I'm just so
thankful that the judge was very fair and unbiased in
this case so far.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
All right, you went viral yesterday for a question that
you asked in the UFO hearing. Our audience hates Buck
because of his reaction to this question, So can we
I know, we just played it, but I think I
think probably everybody remembers it, so we're this is like, uh.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
They congress from It's very straightforward. What is your feeling?
What did you think when this guy told you he
removed aliens from the down spacecraft under oath in front
of Congress?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Well, I will tell you. I don't know if you
could tell him the tape yesterday, but that was my
last question the hearing was asked, well, if you have
the craft, do we have the bodies of the pilot.
Nobody had asked that question in hours of testimony, and
then I was sort of jaw dropped on the floor
shock that he answered in the affirmative, and I was like,
how do you come how do you come back from that?
And then asking that human are non humans? I don't
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really know, and I haven't taken a position or an
opinion on it, but I would also, you know, if
I had five more minutes, I'd want to ask about this.
AI is just like, as non human, does that mean
artificial intelligence? And if we developed that, how advances our technology,
et cetera. But I was sort of, uh, you know,
stopped in my tracks when it happened. I was kind
of laughing at myself a little bit too that I
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was like, Oh my gosh, how do you I don't
know how you come back from that.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
No, I think it's probably one of the most famous
questions has been asked in a Congressional hearing in a
long long time and obviously went super viral. So here's
the question. Do you believe that aliens? This was a
big topic on the show yesterday. Do you believe that
aliens have ever visited Earth?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I am going to have to see the evidence when I.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Say he's team Bucks, like, touch.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
A thing and see it and see if it's actually real,
because it's so far out of this world. But I'm
not saying it it's out of the realm of possibility.
But I'd have to see the evidence to prove that
it is.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I'm just gonna be honest.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Congress is making a lot of sense here, and I
really appreciate her taking this topic with the kind of
air udition and and you know, intellectual touch that it needs.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Clay, I thought when you came on that the audience
is going to love you. I'm disappointed in Congresswoman and
the audience is now, I mean, you're on buck side
with everybody hating it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Can I mean Clay even ran a poll it was
fifty to fifty. It's half and half. Congresswoman, I am.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
On everybody's side on this one. But I have to
tell you, like, it's not about little green men, if
you think about it, this is about technology. This is
about energy. It's if there really are craft, aircraft, bace,
spacecraft that are defying the laws of physics, what kind
of energy are they harnessing and using? And it's also
about national security, but it's also about funneling money. Like
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if we're devoting funds to this billions or billions of
dollars to some kind of retrieval program, well, how is
that happening? And who has the bodies? Like is it
the government or is it contractors? Et cetera? Like I
have so many more questions. I can't wait to get
in a skiff with David Brush because five minutes for
one member of Congress or ask these questions just isn't enough.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Can I Can I ask you, Congressman? Also, are there documents?
Because this is you know, this is where I start
to make some concessions to you know, the X files
crowd out. There are there documents relating to anything, whether
you know technology, UFO stuff, UFOs sightings that are really
old at this point and still classified that you think
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the public should be able to see, and that you're
a little bit perplexed as to why they're still kept
under in a classified status.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I have not seen any yet, but once I get
that list from David Grush, because he said he would
give us a list of friendly and hostile witnesses at
the end of my questioning, because then I want to
get into a skip and see, well, what classified information
do we have, How are these individuals, entities, organizations, government agencies,
or contractors it involved in any of this, so that
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we can get to that next step, because I do
believe that we need to have more inquiries into this,
more discussion, more investigation whether that, and hopefully that would
be in a public setting, but I would even take
information in the private setting to better understand what is
actually and truly really going on.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
All Right, couple of things here. One, my wife has
just weighed in, so I'm going to read her text
message book. How are we so sure aliens haven't landed
in other Maybe those other countries just have never revealed
that information, or maybe it's like the scrolls and they're
already living among us. So at least she's on my
side here, all right. I just give Laura Travis credit.
(26:14):
And this also brings Congresswoman. You went viral yesterday. I
bet this combo has never happened. You went viral yesterday
for asking whether aliens had ever been pulled out of
crash spacecraft. You now have gone viral for saying that
you went to a prayer breakfast this morning instead of
having sex with your partner, which was the more unexpected
(26:34):
one to go viral in back to back days for Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I can't. I can't write this like I can't. It's
it's wild to me. I couldn't curse the prayer back breakfast.
So I had a very very personal story. Everyone knew
that it was a joke and it was hilarious and
we were all in stitches. Some people were in tears,
they were laughing so hard. But it's real. I mean,
there is technically sex in the Bible, but it is
(26:58):
real and it's funny. And I I think what's lacking
in politics today is people they're so overrehearsed, they're so
practiced and what people expect them to say and what
people want to hear, but they aren't really honest about
their lives. And I don't live a perfect life. I'm
going to church because I'm a sinner, not because I'm
a saint, and I'm very open with people about the
experiences that i have. And we all had a very
(27:20):
good laugh, even Tim Scott, he took it and stride.
My pastor was there and I'll see him in church
on Sunday, begging for giveness. But we had a great
time and love the prayer breakfast.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Are you sometimes surprised by what goes viral?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I am. And for me, it's not like I'm like,
I'm not taking boards into a hearing, showing nuds of
the President's sun, like I'm not purposely doing anything that
is intentional, Like I'm just being me. I'm just being
myself because I think people appreciate the honesty, the vulnerability,
the authenticity, and it does surprise me when we do
(27:55):
things that are just very human, very normal. But it
just is so normal in today's world that it goes
thing goes viral.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
It's kind of it is funny to be Congressman Mace.
Appreciate you weigh in and letting everybody know that you
are still skeptical of little green men being pulled out
of a spaceship like I am great to have you
on the program. We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
All Right, she's great, I really.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I mean, we've had her on the show a couple
of times, Buck, and it's amazing how many people can
have normal conversations in politics, and how many people just
sound like robots. I don't know if it's they're so
terrified the programming. I do think she's right about there
being a desperate craving for authenticity, and so many of
our politicians, frankly cannot deliver on just being authentic, which
(28:40):
reminds me like remember Mitt Romney, like eating the hot
dog with the hot dog tie and the hot dog
baseball cap. It's so ridiculously over the top. How inauthentic
that could be when you're just talking about freaking hot dogs.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, it's very true.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I don't get it. Anyway, she's great.
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Speaker 3 (30:08):
Welcome back Team, Clay and Buck, here go in strong.
We've got Senator jd Vance gonna be with us in
just a few minutes. We've got a lot to talk
to him about. Obviously, I I think we've got a
ton of emails flooding in. We have we have the
Hunter Biden uh fiasco yesterday. We have the it seems
(30:28):
imminent J six charges against Donald Trump. Although Trump's last
truth social posts seem to say, hold on, you know,
nothing has been determined yet. I we're just telling you
what he's saying. So we don't know yet. But with
all that, almost all the emails coming in right now
from our VIPs and all of the phone calls we're
(30:50):
getting have to do with extraterrestrial life. So I will
because I'm a fair minded person, Clay, because I I
go based on the evidence. I go based on what
we can see and touch and feel. I will accept
that Mike has written in another VIP. Sorry, Buck, but
(31:10):
your last emailer was wrong. UFOs are not just in
the US. You could literally type in UFO plus any
other country you'll found find countless videos or cases of UFOs.
Can't be that hard to think the government's keeping these secrets,
especially with a secret technology with space travel that could
replace gas, oil and coal. Well you think of anything
(31:34):
more revolutionary. We're talking about how the twenty twenty four
campaign is going to be crazy because even if you
have Trump and Biden replicating the twenty twenty election a rematch.
We talked about health during the course of this show,
that those kind of things could could happen. What if
definitive evidence of aliens definitive where everybody out there had
(31:58):
to be like, well, there's always going to be a
skeptic no matter what. There are people out there listening
to us right now, Buck that believe we've never actually
been to the moon. I guarantee you there are people
out there who are skeptics. They think the moon landing
was one hundred percent fake, that it didn't happen. So
there's always going to be skeptics no matter what the
truth is. But can you think of anything that would
(32:18):
change things that would be wilder to happen as a
part of the prelude to the twenty twenty four election,
Then aliens are real and they visited Earth. I would
be high on this, it'd be high on the scale.
I don't know how much life would really change for
anybody as a result of this. There'd be a lot
more radio segments on it and TV shows and stuff,
(32:38):
but I don't think it would really you know, it
depends on what they did. And if they show up
with ray guns and they you know, start blowing up
our government buildings, we got a problem. But if it's
not really doing anything, you know, no big deal.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I this is crazy talk.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
You think if definitive evidence of aliens coming to Earth
arrived that most people people would be like, ah, no
big deal, Like let's just like, let's argue about it.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
We talk about it a lot. But if it's just
that they had visited, that's what I'm saying. If spaceships
arrive in the sky and they're threatening to like enslave
the human race, yes, Clay, that is crazy and that's
a big change.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
But if we could.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Definitively prove that some alien craft had landed here at
some point in time, there'd be a focus on this.
But what you're gonna wake up tomorrow, You're not gonna
be reading the Wall Street Journal and drinking your coffee.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I think my life's probably not gonna change I'm probably
gonna be sitting on the air on the radio when
you know, the alien zapostol and we cease to exist anymore.
But I do think that would be a major point
of discussion because the first thing people want to know is, well,
what are the intentions of the aliens?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Like, we can't visit their planet, so why are they
coming here again? Are they here or do we know
they have visited Clay. This is the distinction we have
to come up with. If we know that they have
visited at some point, okay, there's some philosophical questions and
some scientific inquiry to go into and lots of discussion.
And if they're here that we've seen the movies, like
(34:03):
we know, that's a bigger deal. Like if they're you know,
there's a ship in the sky. By the way, this
is not gonna happen. So what what are we even
talking about here, folks? This is crazy talk.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I think it might happen. I think it might happen.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I just want to this.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
You know you've chosen your champion pro UFO people, this
is Clay. Oh, I think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Oh, I don't know that, but I mean, I think
that the evidence is becoming more significant that we have
been visited before. And when you have a congressional hearing
and somebody testifies under oath that they have been told
that we removed alien bodies from a crash spacecraft, that's
a level of conversation that's never occurred before.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Did he see it? If this guy was told, no, yeah,
he was told. Now you can say that you were
told anything under oath and there's no way to disprove that.
To be clear, I could say that I was told
that Abraham Lincoln was actually a space alien under oath,
and no one's gonna be able to prove that I
wasn't told that at some point.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
By the fact that we're having that converse, we can
we get that guy on this show?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Did we figure out what that guy's name is? We
played the audio.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Nancy Mace just came on with us and said she
wanted more than five minutes with him. Can we get
fifteen with him on this show?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I don't know. We're gonna have him on, and then
Clay's gonna have the Bigfoot Hunters on. You know, they
could tell us about Sasquatch also known as the abominable snowman.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
You know, I will I will tell you. Have you
ever watched that you the Bigfoot show? Finding Bigfoot?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
No Clay?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
If no, I mean you're laughing.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I've got a huge percentage of our audience has watched
the Finding Bigfoot show at some point in time. I
was watching with my kids, this is actually true, watching
with one of my kids recently, and he was like, Dad,
do you think they're gonna find Bigfoot in this episode?
Speaker 1 (35:52):
And I said, Hey, Bud, who knows? First of all?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Right, but I think they wouldn't hold the news until
like eight o'cl on cable on a random Sunday that
they found Bigfoot and everybody who's watching the Finding Bigfoot
episode like they managed to keep it a secret. I
think if they did find Bigfoot, it would be a
big story. So I don't think it's gonna break on
the news.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I think that you don't
want to have your kids asking Clay about Santa Claus
anytime soon either, Mister no Bigfoot over here.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Well, I'm not saying the Bigfoot doesn't exist. I'm just
saying they would unlikely that you would become aware one
hundred percent certainty that Bigfoot exists on the Finding Bigfoot show,
I think it would break on the news elsewhere first.
But I do like that show the best finding Bigfoot
supposed monster that is out there. I mean, there's troop
of cabra, Bigfoot, locknus monster. What's number one for you
(36:46):
that I believe exists? No, you think is the coolest?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I think?
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I think the Yeah, I'll tell you next.
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We got a bunch coming your way.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Several guests coming down the stretch run here in the
next two hours. Let me go ahead and tell you
where we're going there. Nancy Mays is going to join
us at one thirty. She was the congresswoman who asked
the question about people being We have to make sure
we have that audio cued up, guys at one thirty
for Nancy Mace. That made all of you decide that
(00:31):
you hated Buck because Nancy Mace asked the question have
there been basically non human remains pulled.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Out of spacecraft?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And yesterday testimony surrounding UFOs, that was the answer. It
has gone viral. It is everywhere. She has also been
on the show several times before. I think we'll have
a good conversation with her and it will reinforce yet
again for all of you listening right now, why you
trust me on aliens far more than you trust Buck.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I don't know what else to say other than for
all of you who are on Team Sanity slash Team Reality,
it's uh there's plenty of space over here. Okay, we're
not talking about little spots on a screen. To be clear,
We're now being told that they pulled alien bodies out
of a spacecraft and we're able to hide this. That
was the testimony yesterday. I'm sorry, but the Buckster's not buying.
(01:22):
Not happened.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
At two, Senator JD. Vans will join us. We'll ask
Kem whether he believes in aliens. And at two point thirty,
Senator Tommy Tuberville from Alabama, who Buck already misidentified as
the former Alabama football coach. Thankfully without Tommy Tumbervill being
on the air, Tommy tumberwill famous quote Buck I.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Was very close to giving him a role tiede, so
I'm glad to established that in advance.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I think one of the all time great quotes. He
was the head coach of old Miss. That's the University
of Mississippi for those of you out there that are
not in the Southern regions. Head coach at Ole Miss.
They asked him, would you ever leave Old Miss to
go to Auburn? And Tommy Tuberville said, the only way
I would ever leave Oxford is in a pine box,
(02:10):
meaning if he was dead to be buried. He then
took the Auburn job, which is just I mean, I
love SEC football more than anything. Right, you guys out
there listening know this. That is one of the all
time great SEC football coaches. I'll give you another one
buck while you're while you're while you're thinking about this.
When they they were talking about Kentucky earlier, Kentucky had
(02:33):
football coach moved down to move down to Alabama, and
they asked him, you know, they they asked him. The
question was she was speaking with her with her minister,
and they said, you know, football is really important down there.
Uh and uh and and and they said it's almost
(02:53):
like a religion. And the head football coach's wife, Bill
Curry's wife said, oh no, it's much more important than that.
So religion important. Alabama football much more important than religion
when you experience that. So we're going to talk about
all that and more that's still to come. But buck
right off the top here. There are some revelations that
(03:15):
are coming down from our friend Jim Jordan's Twitter account
which are I would say smoking gun evidence of what
many of us anticipated was the case for some time.
And that is evidence that the Biden White House in
emails was demanding explicitly that postings on Facebook from people
(03:42):
that they considered to be their political enemies be removed
or there would be big consequences for Facebook from the
Biden White House. Now Buck, what I would say in
general about this is one this is often the case
that email makes cases that would otherwise never be able
(04:03):
to be made made. And so you'll now see sometimes
people want to have phone calls because they don't want
to put in writing what they might say on a
phone call. But it speaks, I think, to the overall
power that the Biden White House felt that their covid
zars and their misinformations, ares Buck were completely comfortable writing
(04:26):
in emails what they expected to happen and what the
consequences would be if it didn't happen, in terms of
restricting the dissemination of information that they found to be
contrary to the narrative that they wanted to share.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Interesting that there's a left wing, left wing reporter who
shared out yesterday, Ryan Grimm. He called out The New
York Times. He's a man of the left. I mean,
he's a socialist basically right, and I don't even I
think I'm just describing. I'm not editorializing. I think he
would self describe as a democratic socialist. I believe, if
(05:02):
I'm wrong, apologists, he's a left wing guy. And he
even said, he said the old New York Times, when
seeing that the Covid czars of the CDC the NIH
were intentionally misleading the public about the lab leak theory
and working to suppress the truth with the public, and
(05:26):
that The New York Times had been a part of that,
they would have said, all right, we've got to assign
reporters to this. We've got to get to the bottom
of this. We have to do something about this to
regain some sense of basic integrity. Yes, but the current
New York Times knows they were fauci acolytes. They were
there to do the bidding. They were the propaganda organ
it. It doesn't matter that they were lied to and therefore
(05:48):
also part of the lie to their own readers, because
their own readers don't want to know the truth. This
is a dramatic change. I grew up in a household
where the change a number of years ago. I grew
up in a house old with The New York Times
delivered every day, the paper version of it, and that's
what my dad mom read every single day. And you know,
it was always liberal, it was always Democrat. But in
the last ten or fifteen years, it's just become a
(06:11):
rag of insanity.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I'll give you an example of that, Buck, And this
is where we talked and I wrote something about this
with The Washington Post. The subscription model has actually turned
the New York Times and the Washington Post into Democrat
fan sites. They don't actually do investigation. They make people
who are on the left feel happy that they're on
(06:34):
the Democrat team. And that is their base, that is
their subscription base, and that's why they can't ever make
him unhappy. But do you remember when you remember Jason Blair? Oh,
you go out there, who'd forgotten this? Jason Blair was
a New York Times reporter who had written several different
front page stories and it came out that he had
(06:56):
basically never even left New York City and he was
claiming that he was in all these different places and
the sideline, Yeah, total fabricator they did. And this this
builds on what you're talking about. And I read that
thread that you're that you're referencing they did a complete analysis.
They brought in a whole new reporting team and they
(07:18):
reported on Jason Blair's lies and they disclosed it to
their entire audience as a testament to their commitment to journalism.
We had this guy who was a fabricator on staff.
Kind of like for people out there who remember remember
Stephen Glass, Remember the Stephens.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I saw the movie.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
There was a movie Glass, Fat fabulous movie, that same thing, Like,
you have a talented reporter who basically decides that he's
going to make up all these different fantastic details. Stephen
Glass was even wilder because he had all these incredible
revelatory stories. They were really funny, they were interesting. He
(07:56):
basically was a fabulous student, a fiction writer instead of
a journalist because he was a talented guy. And New
York Times put an entire investigative team on Jason Blair
and they did an entire analysis of everything they got
wrong if they were an honest news gathering organization.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
In the wake of all.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Of these emails coming out showing that they were lied to,
that their COVID experts were manipulated and lied to to
try to prevent the lab link theory from ever coming
out And let me just say, as an a Sidebuck,
this is really funny. I think when you really analyze it,
Not only did they lie to us about where COVID
(08:36):
came from, they said it was racist if we said
that COVID might have leaked from a Chinese lab. That
was one of the New York Times talking points. That
was one of the Fauciites talking points. And Buck, what
did they say that it came from? Instead, they said
it came from a Chinese wet market where they have
all these crazy animals that people will eat, and it's unsanitory, unsanitary,
(08:58):
and it's messy, and that's how the virus spread.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
And it was zoonautic transmission, was what they were telling everybody.
And so then the whole world was googling pengolin because honestly,
who the heck knew what a penglin was before? This?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Isn't that actually more racist?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Like if you really think about it, this place is
so dirty and people eat so many different crazy animals
and it's so disgusting there that viruses spread through these
wet markets like mad, That to me seems more racist
than oh, we had this lab and it accidentally escaped
because we didn't have the proper protocols in place.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Well, I'm not sure. I mean the race, the race
component of it was just that we couldn't say it
was from China period, So I don't think they.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Well, but they were not arguing that it came from elsewhere.
They were arguing that it came from the Chinese wet
market in Wuhan as opposed to the laboratory.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Right, but we couldn't say Wuhan coronavirus. If you remember,
it couldn't matter chinavirus China super race, right. So it's
I think we discussed on the show where the whole
wet market thing comes, which is a great reminder of
how destructive communism actually is, because people started eating random
animals and then raising random wild animals in China because
the Maoist Great Leap Forward resulted in a massive famine
(10:13):
that killed tens of millions of people. This was back
in the late fifties early sixties, and so people were
eating frogs and pangolins and whatever they could get. But
then it became not only a sort of tradition among
Chinese rural areas, but also a business at the Chinese
Communist Party was making money off of because they would
(10:33):
sell these exotic animals in these markets for people to eat.
But back to the New York Times component of this,
I've said this all along. There is no shame for
any of the outlets that got everything wrong and that
were part of official government propaganda that was lies about
COVID or that were lies about COVID, because their job
(10:54):
wasn't to tell the public the truth in their own eyes,
their job was to root for their team. They the
New York Times effectively views themselves as the pr and
like they're almost like the lawyers of the Democrat Party.
They're just there to make the case. It doesn't matter
what's true.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And that's why the analogy there of are they going
to hold themselves accountable in any way? And the answer,
certainly for all of Russia collusion was no. Not only
did they make tons of money by signing up people
with the idea that Russia was taken over Donald Trump
and that he was the Manchurian candidate. They gave themselves
Politzer Prizes. They take back the Heisman Trophy Buck when
(11:33):
they find out that he got paid in college football.
They won't let Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame
because he bet on baseball. Wouldn't you think at a minimum,
the Politzer would take back the Pulitzer Awards that it
gave out when it was determined that all of the
Politzers were based on lies.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I would argue that the Politzer Prize is awarded for
an achievement in propaganda in assistance to the Democrat left
in America. Now, I don't think that I think that
it's changed effectively. I don't think that it really is
supposed to represent journalism anymore. And and so that's why
it doesn't. That's why it doesn't change, right, otherwise they
(12:09):
would have to otherwise they'd have to go back. But
they also don't want to admit that they did anything
that was assisting their side at the expense of the truth,
because then a lot of us would look at them
and say, and it's not the only time you guys
do that, by the way, you know, once they start
to admit it, it opens up the opens up the floodgates.
I think of what everyone has seen in recent years.
(12:31):
I mean, it's a shame, but it really is now.
I mean, media is turning into it's like warring editorial
pages all the time. People don't even there's no and
it actually goes beyond that because people would say, what
are you doing like you employed to it. Yeah, we
tell people where we stand, what our opinions are, and
present them as such, but we still have to try
to present everything in a factual Everything we say is
(12:51):
true as a matter of fact, we want to say
as true. I do believe that the Democrat aligned media
no longer cares, and that's the Hunter Biden laptops a
perfect example of that, meaning that the factual basis can
be relegated to such a low status that as long
as it helps the Democrats, that doesn't matter. You know
what I mean, Lies are entirely acceptable now as part
(13:13):
of their editorialized I.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Don't think you could point to anything that we've done
in two plus years that has been factually dishonest. You
can disagree with our opinions, but I don't think that
factually in two plus years, and if we get something wrong,
if we attribute a tweet that didn't actually we come
back in say.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Kentucky, we just we just did this in real teals
and we thought on Kentucky and we had people that
knew a little more about that state than they called
in and we corrected in real time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yes, so you can disagree with opinions, but in terms
of factual basis, there is I don't think anything in
two plus years that you could point to and say, oh,
they got that fact wrong. And to your point, there
is no common set of facts that the Democrats now
will accept at the Washington Post, in the New York Times.
And the craziest thing, and maybe the most unfair thing
(13:57):
of all this is they constantly accuse us of information
when Russia collusion is the biggest misinformation covid is and
I would argue the laptop and the fifty one intelligence
agents is the most successful element of misinformation in modern
American political history.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
The only misinformation on this show is Clay's belief that
little Green Men were pulled out of a UFO by
the government. I'm just throwing it out there, everybody. We'll
get to that. We'll got Nancy Mace with us, she said,
we got the expert joining us here shortly, so we'll
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is this from my bank? And it's actually not easy
(14:36):
to tell. Maybe you get one that says, oh, your
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A lot of people have gotten this one. Well, we
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be delivered. It's a scam. It's a phishing scam. Be
very careful with this stuff. It's very sophisticated. They're trying
to steal your identity. Once you click on the wrong link,
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Speaker 1 (16:05):
Truth after Truth, you can handle the truth. Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton, All.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Right, welcome back. We got Nancy Mays joining us shortly.
Do we have the audio from yesterday about the so
called the basically the Little Green Men?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Do we have that?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Guys? Let's just remind everybody about what was said under
oath on Capitol Hill yesterday at a congressional hearing.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Play it if you believe we have crashed craft stated earlier,
do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted
this craft?
Speaker 5 (16:35):
As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview,
biologics came with some of these recoveries.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah, were they, I guess human or non human?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Biologics non human? And that was the assessment of people
which recknowledge on the program I talked to that are
currently still on the program.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Clay, I'm just going to tell you right now. Our
Vip Douglas, who is a gentleman and a scholar, wrote
in I've been wanting to sign up and finally did
because I can't believe this is my first note. I
have to defend Buck, mainly because I can't believe I
have to. There are so many reasons scientific and logically
we have never been visited by aliens. But just using
Clay's own point, what is the point of covering it up?
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And even if, for unknown reasons the government did cover
it up every time these aliens visited, they never landed
in other countries or other places only where the government
bureaucrafts could control it. Are you kidding me? Boom Douglas
with a nuclear bomb of truth. I appreciate the Douglas
is now VIP. I think he's hundred percent wrong.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think that Douglas Douglas might be a plan. He's
sudden a buck's awfully convenient. He suddenly decides that he
has to sign up and send in an email, ripping
the idea that aliens might exist.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I don't believe you're undermining cousin Doug like this. That's
all I can say.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I'm just saying Doug feels like he might be a
plant from big government trying to convince us that aliens
don't exist. We'll see what happens. We'll get Nancy Mason here.
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Speaker 2 (19:02):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. I believe
we have Congresswoman Nancy Mace with us right now to
talk about why Buck's so wrong about aliens. But first,
Donald Trump just posted on truth Social We've been talking
about this latest potential indictment coming in Washington, d C.
I want to give it to all of you, and
I also want to get Congressman Mace's thoughts on this.
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My attorneys had a productive meeting with the DOJ this morning,
explaining in detail that I did nothing wrong. Was advised
by many lawyers, and that an indictment of me would
only further destroy our country. No indication of notice was
given during the meeting. Do not trust the fake news
on anything exclamation point, Congresswoman Nancy Mace with us now
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that just came down from Donald Trump. I know you
haven't always agreed with Donald Trump on everything, but I
bet you will agree that another indictment, this one coming
in Washington, d c. Would not be good for the nation.
How would you assess the latest potential indictment.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Well, it's not good for the nation. It's not good
for democracy. When the president's administration is arresting his number
one political opponent, that's not good for anybody in the
short term or the long term. And it's not healthy
for our country. It's very divisious, and we've got to
move forward and unify our country at some point after
the nomination process, and this is not the way.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Congressman Mace, what do you think about what happened yesterday
with Hunter Biden trying to get not just a sweetheart
plea deal for charges that have been brought formally in
an indictment, but to get immunity from the possibility of
a future federal felony indictment, and the judge decided that
that was just too much to stomach. What do you
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think of that and what happens next?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Thank God for the judge in this case who saw
it for what it was as plea deal. And this
guy wanted to be to get off on any crime
for anything, for any reason, at any point in his life,
for imperfetuity forever in the future. And that's not how
this works.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I mean, this.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Sweetheart deal that he got is highly unusual for anyone
to get if you're doing a plea deal in the
middle of an investigation. And so you know, thank God
that she did the right thing. And I also want
to know too, is what is he being investigated for?
Is it for operating illegally as a foreign agent, Is
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it for bribery? Is it for money laundering? Racketeering? Like?
What's all this forward? So we have a lot more
questions today than we had yesterday. But I'm just so
thankful that the judge was very fair and unbiased in
this case so far.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
All right, you went viral yesterday for a question that
you asked in the UFO hearing. Our audience hates Buck
because of his reaction to this question, So can we
I know, we just played it, but I think I
think probably everybody remembers it, so we're this is like, uh.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
They congress from It's very straightforward. What is your feeling?
What did you think when this guy told you he
removed aliens from the down spacecraft under oath in front
of Congress?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Well, I will tell you. I don't know if you
could tell him the tape yesterday, but that was my
last question the hearing was asked, well, if you have
the craft, do we have the bodies of the pilot.
Nobody had asked that question in hours of testimony, and
then I was sort of jaw dropped on the floor
shock that he answered in the affirmative, and I was like,
how do you come how do you come back from that?
And then asking that human are non humans? I don't
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really know, and I haven't taken a position or an
opinion on it, but I would also, you know, if
I had five more minutes, I'd want to ask about this.
AI is just like, as non human, does that mean
artificial intelligence? And if we developed that, how advances our technology,
et cetera. But I was sort of, uh, you know,
stopped in my tracks when it happened. I was kind
of laughing at myself a little bit too that I
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was like, Oh my gosh, how do you I don't
know how you come back from that.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
No, I think it's probably one of the most famous
questions has been asked in a Congressional hearing in a
long long time and obviously went super viral. So here's
the question. Do you believe that aliens? This was a
big topic on the show yesterday. Do you believe that
aliens have ever visited Earth?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I am going to have to see the evidence when I.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Say he's team Bucks, like, touch.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
A thing and see it and see if it's actually real,
because it's so far out of this world. But I'm
not saying it it's out of the realm of possibility.
But I'd have to see the evidence to prove that
it is.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I'm just gonna be honest.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Congress is making a lot of sense here, and I
really appreciate her taking this topic with the kind of
air udition and and you know, intellectual touch that it needs.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Clay, I thought when you came on that the audience
is going to love you. I'm disappointed in Congresswoman and
the audience is now, I mean, you're on buck side
with everybody hating it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Can I mean Clay even ran a poll it was
fifty to fifty. It's half and half. Congresswoman, I am.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
On everybody's side on this one. But I have to
tell you, like, it's not about little green men, if
you think about it, this is about technology. This is
about energy. It's if there really are craft, aircraft, bace,
spacecraft that are defying the laws of physics, what kind
of energy are they harnessing and using? And it's also
about national security, but it's also about funneling money. Like
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if we're devoting funds to this billions or billions of
dollars to some kind of retrieval program, well, how is
that happening? And who has the bodies? Like is it
the government or is it contractors? Et cetera? Like I
have so many more questions. I can't wait to get
in a skiff with David Brush because five minutes for
one member of Congress or ask these questions just isn't enough.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Can I Can I ask you, Congressman? Also, are there documents?
Because this is you know, this is where I start
to make some concessions to you know, the X files
crowd out. There are there documents relating to anything, whether
you know technology, UFO stuff, UFOs sightings that are really
old at this point and still classified that you think
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the public should be able to see, and that you're
a little bit perplexed as to why they're still kept
under in a classified status.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I have not seen any yet, but once I get
that list from David Grush, because he said he would
give us a list of friendly and hostile witnesses at
the end of my questioning, because then I want to
get into a skip and see, well, what classified information
do we have, How are these individuals, entities, organizations, government agencies,
or contractors it involved in any of this, so that
(25:34):
we can get to that next step, because I do
believe that we need to have more inquiries into this,
more discussion, more investigation whether that, and hopefully that would
be in a public setting, but I would even take
information in the private setting to better understand what is
actually and truly really going on.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
All Right, couple of things here. One, my wife has
just weighed in, so I'm going to read her text
message book. How are we so sure aliens haven't landed
in other Maybe those other countries just have never revealed
that information, or maybe it's like the scrolls and they're
already living among us. So at least she's on my
side here, all right. I just give Laura Travis credit.
(26:14):
And this also brings Congresswoman. You went viral yesterday. I
bet this combo has never happened. You went viral yesterday
for asking whether aliens had ever been pulled out of
crash spacecraft. You now have gone viral for saying that
you went to a prayer breakfast this morning instead of
having sex with your partner, which was the more unexpected
(26:34):
one to go viral in back to back days for Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I can't. I can't write this like I can't. It's
it's wild to me. I couldn't curse the prayer back breakfast.
So I had a very very personal story. Everyone knew
that it was a joke and it was hilarious and
we were all in stitches. Some people were in tears,
they were laughing so hard. But it's real. I mean,
there is technically sex in the Bible, but it is
(26:58):
real and it's funny. And I I think what's lacking
in politics today is people they're so overrehearsed, they're so
practiced and what people expect them to say and what
people want to hear, but they aren't really honest about
their lives. And I don't live a perfect life. I'm
going to church because I'm a sinner, not because I'm
a saint, and I'm very open with people about the
experiences that i have. And we all had a very
(27:20):
good laugh, even Tim Scott, he took it and stride.
My pastor was there and I'll see him in church
on Sunday, begging for giveness. But we had a great
time and love the prayer breakfast.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Are you sometimes surprised by what goes viral?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I am. And for me, it's not like I'm like,
I'm not taking boards into a hearing, showing nuds of
the President's sun, like I'm not purposely doing anything that
is intentional, Like I'm just being me. I'm just being
myself because I think people appreciate the honesty, the vulnerability,
the authenticity, and it does surprise me when we do
(27:55):
things that are just very human, very normal. But it
just is so normal in today's world that it goes
thing goes viral.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
It's kind of it is funny to be Congressman Mace.
Appreciate you weigh in and letting everybody know that you
are still skeptical of little green men being pulled out
of a spaceship like I am great to have you
on the program. We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
All Right, she's great, I really.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I mean, we've had her on the show a couple
of times, Buck, and it's amazing how many people can
have normal conversations in politics, and how many people just
sound like robots. I don't know if it's they're so
terrified the programming. I do think she's right about there
being a desperate craving for authenticity, and so many of
our politicians, frankly cannot deliver on just being authentic, which
(28:40):
reminds me like remember Mitt Romney, like eating the hot
dog with the hot dog tie and the hot dog
baseball cap. It's so ridiculously over the top. How inauthentic
that could be when you're just talking about freaking hot dogs.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, it's very true.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I don't get it. Anyway, she's great.
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Speaker 3 (30:08):
Welcome back Team, Clay and Buck, here go in strong.
We've got Senator jd Vance gonna be with us in
just a few minutes. We've got a lot to talk
to him about. Obviously, I I think we've got a
ton of emails flooding in. We have we have the
Hunter Biden uh fiasco yesterday. We have the it seems
(30:28):
imminent J six charges against Donald Trump. Although Trump's last
truth social posts seem to say, hold on, you know,
nothing has been determined yet. I we're just telling you
what he's saying. So we don't know yet. But with
all that, almost all the emails coming in right now
from our VIPs and all of the phone calls we're
(30:50):
getting have to do with extraterrestrial life. So I will
because I'm a fair minded person, Clay, because I I
go based on the evidence. I go based on what
we can see and touch and feel. I will accept
that Mike has written in another VIP. Sorry, Buck, but
(31:10):
your last emailer was wrong. UFOs are not just in
the US. You could literally type in UFO plus any
other country you'll found find countless videos or cases of UFOs.
Can't be that hard to think the government's keeping these secrets,
especially with a secret technology with space travel that could
replace gas, oil and coal. Well you think of anything
(31:34):
more revolutionary. We're talking about how the twenty twenty four
campaign is going to be crazy because even if you
have Trump and Biden replicating the twenty twenty election a rematch.
We talked about health during the course of this show,
that those kind of things could could happen. What if
definitive evidence of aliens definitive where everybody out there had
(31:58):
to be like, well, there's always going to be a
skeptic no matter what. There are people out there listening
to us right now, Buck that believe we've never actually
been to the moon. I guarantee you there are people
out there who are skeptics. They think the moon landing
was one hundred percent fake, that it didn't happen. So
there's always going to be skeptics no matter what the
truth is. But can you think of anything that would
(32:18):
change things that would be wilder to happen as a
part of the prelude to the twenty twenty four election,
Then aliens are real and they visited Earth. I would
be high on this, it'd be high on the scale.
I don't know how much life would really change for
anybody as a result of this. There'd be a lot
more radio segments on it and TV shows and stuff,
(32:38):
but I don't think it would really you know, it
depends on what they did. And if they show up
with ray guns and they you know, start blowing up
our government buildings, we got a problem. But if it's
not really doing anything, you know, no big deal.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I this is crazy talk.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
You think if definitive evidence of aliens coming to Earth
arrived that most people people would be like, ah, no
big deal, Like let's just like, let's argue about it.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
We talk about it a lot. But if it's just
that they had visited, that's what I'm saying. If spaceships
arrive in the sky and they're threatening to like enslave
the human race, yes, Clay, that is crazy and that's
a big change.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
But if we could.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Definitively prove that some alien craft had landed here at
some point in time, there'd be a focus on this.
But what you're gonna wake up tomorrow, You're not gonna
be reading the Wall Street Journal and drinking your coffee.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I think my life's probably not gonna change I'm probably
gonna be sitting on the air on the radio when
you know, the alien zapostol and we cease to exist anymore.
But I do think that would be a major point
of discussion because the first thing people want to know is, well,
what are the intentions of the aliens?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Like, we can't visit their planet, so why are they
coming here again? Are they here or do we know
they have visited Clay. This is the distinction we have
to come up with. If we know that they have
visited at some point, okay, there's some philosophical questions and
some scientific inquiry to go into and lots of discussion.
And if they're here that we've seen the movies, like
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we know, that's a bigger deal. Like if they're you know,
there's a ship in the sky. By the way, this
is not gonna happen. So what what are we even
talking about here, folks? This is crazy talk.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I think it might happen. I think it might happen.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I just want to this.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
You know you've chosen your champion pro UFO people, this
is Clay. Oh, I think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Oh, I don't know that, but I mean, I think
that the evidence is becoming more significant that we have
been visited before. And when you have a congressional hearing
and somebody testifies under oath that they have been told
that we removed alien bodies from a crash spacecraft, that's
a level of conversation that's never occurred before.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Did he see it? If this guy was told, no, yeah,
he was told. Now you can say that you were
told anything under oath and there's no way to disprove that.
To be clear, I could say that I was told
that Abraham Lincoln was actually a space alien under oath,
and no one's gonna be able to prove that I
wasn't told that at some point.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
By the fact that we're having that converse, we can
we get that guy on this show?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Did we figure out what that guy's name is? We
played the audio.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Nancy Mace just came on with us and said she
wanted more than five minutes with him. Can we get
fifteen with him on this show?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I don't know. We're gonna have him on, and then
Clay's gonna have the Bigfoot Hunters on. You know, they
could tell us about Sasquatch also known as the abominable snowman.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
You know, I will I will tell you. Have you
ever watched that you the Bigfoot show? Finding Bigfoot?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
No Clay?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
If no, I mean you're laughing.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I've got a huge percentage of our audience has watched
the Finding Bigfoot show at some point in time. I
was watching with my kids, this is actually true, watching
with one of my kids recently, and he was like, Dad,
do you think they're gonna find Bigfoot in this episode?
Speaker 1 (35:52):
And I said, Hey, Bud, who knows? First of all?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Right, but I think they wouldn't hold the news until
like eight o'cl on cable on a random Sunday that
they found Bigfoot and everybody who's watching the Finding Bigfoot
episode like they managed to keep it a secret. I
think if they did find Bigfoot, it would be a
big story. So I don't think it's gonna break on
the news.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I think that you don't
want to have your kids asking Clay about Santa Claus
anytime soon either, Mister no Bigfoot over here.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Well, I'm not saying the Bigfoot doesn't exist. I'm just
saying they would unlikely that you would become aware one
hundred percent certainty that Bigfoot exists on the Finding Bigfoot show,
I think it would break on the news elsewhere first.
But I do like that show the best finding Bigfoot
supposed monster that is out there. I mean, there's troop
of cabra, Bigfoot, locknus monster. What's number one for you
(36:46):
that I believe exists? No, you think is the coolest?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I think?
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I think the Yeah, I'll tell you next.
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