May 29, 2023 • 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
All right, second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off
right now. Everybody appreciate you rolling with us. We set
up the basics of the Daniel Penny trial.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
It is now a trial. He has been indicted on Friday.
We're going to return to that story here in just
a few moments. Also keeping a close eye on the border.
It feels at some level like we're just giving you
updates on that disaster becoming more disastrous and some of
the additional second order effects, like now there are people
(00:35):
being told, sorry, you can't actually rent those rooms, or
you're not able to you know, veterans aren't able to
be housed. Let's say in some of this housing that's
meant for people to help them get back on their feet.
Got to clear out room for the illegals. That's what
we see going on. That's what we see happening. So
we'll return to those stories in a second. But this
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just hit me, I mean, Clay me this and I
couldn't believe honestly at the time that this is where
things had had gone. This is the reality that we
all we all face. But they must not have been
paying very close attention over at the whoever owns I
don't even know who owns Mile Life. I, as you
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all know, I don't really know much about beer at all. Beer,
I guess, and professional sports teams these days. I have
siliac disease, so I cannot drink. Drinking beer for me
is like drinking poison. I can't drink beer normal beer.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I know.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I just gonna say, what about sorgum ale? I always
want to say that people, Clay, does that sound awesome
to you? Sorghum?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I just want to say that might have been the
most Brian Stelter like audio drop of your career. I
don't really drink beer, and I don't know anything about sports.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
And then everybody out there.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Is like Stelter's like I Stilter pumped his fist and
he was like I do buck was that guys?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Sex?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It is on the team. He is right there with me.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Soon you, you and Stelter are gonna be having like
where you just hug and cry, you.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Know, just try one out. You put your head on
his shoulder.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Every words, onesies, It's gonna be great, you know, with
the little You're gonna to the pjs.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
The walking around with vagina hats before all is sudden
done here pretty soon in the women's march.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
All right, just get back to.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Making fun of cors Lighter, miller Light or whoever, sir.
Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. So here we had
Miller Lte watching what had happened to bud Light and deciding,
you know what, it's a good time for us to
release an ad where we also try to move the
feminist conversation about beer making forward. Play some of this audio, guys,
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here's a.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Little known fact. Women were among the very first to
brew beer ever, from Mesopotamia to the Middle Ages to
colonial America. Women were the ones doing the brewing centuries later.
How did the industry pay homage to the founding mothers
of beer?
Speaker 7 (02:53):
They put us in bikinis.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
Wow, it's time beer made it up to women. So
today miller Light is on a mission to clean up
not just there's.
Speaker 8 (03:02):
The whole beer industries.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Miller Light has been scarrying the Internet for all this
and buying it back so that you can turn it
into goods for women brewers. But there's definitely more shed
out there in your attic in the garage in your parents' basement,
Send any you got into Miller Lighte and they'll turn
that into good too. So here's to women, because without us,
there would be no beer.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, there also would be no humanity or existence. We
all get that. We're all very pro women here. This
is this is utterly bizarre.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
And also this this.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Game that that we're all going to play. Now, you
know what the most consistent privilege across all cultures, across
all societies, all races, all religions, all periods in history.
You know what the real privilege is, Clay good looking people. Now,
Clay is shaking his head. He's like, yeah, I know
it's a big it's a big challenge for the very
good look at folks. But I'm just I'm just telling you,
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pretty people, privilege as it is known, that is real,
and you know, it's just the way that it is.
And this notion that you know, we're not using bikinis
to sell beer anymore, it's like, what are you using
to sell beer these days? Because the whole guy dressed
as a girl thing didn't work out very well.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
So for people out there who haven't seen this video,
this is a woman walking through a factory floor like
a beer universe.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
I don't know brewery.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I'm not sure exactly what it's supposed to be. And
behind her there's all these photos of old Miller Light
ads with girls in bikinis. So, first of all, if
you want to talk, everybody wants to talk about privilege
these days. The apex of privilege is hot girl privilege.
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If you are an incredibly good looking woman, you get
more privileged than anyone who has ever existed in the
history of mankind. And everybody out there listening knows that
this goes on all the time.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Back in the day, there used to be a Seinfeld
is a great show.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Right, Seinfeld was dating a really good looking woman and
he basically made this argument she could do anything that
she wanted. Really good looking women can get away with anything.
So if you really wanted to go and address the
privilege hierarchy, this is the apex. Okay, I also don't
understand if you are Miller Lite and you are looking
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around at everything that's going on with bud Light and
you have legitimately buck seen your overall brand scales sales.
This was in the Wall Street Journal, skyrocket by twenty percent.
Why in the world, would you decide that you were
going to do anything to help light yourself on fire
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in the same method, magnitude or process by which bud
Light has done this. And I think the only answer
is because when this is also funny, this would be
a funny year than this ridiculous miller lte Ad would
be the guy who was sitting in the marketing room
when they played this ad, who one hundred percent knew
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that this ad was a disaster, but was afraid he'd
be called a misogynist if he said, Hey, I don't
think we should repudiate our ads featuring women in bikinis.
And this also ties in can we pull back up
the Tutor Dixon clip that we played on Thursday. I
own a beer Grottis Beer located in Tennessee. We got
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a beer company. We're having fun with it. It's just
in Tennessee. I'd encourage you to drink it. If I
owned a big national beer company right now, I would
go so aggressively into girls in bikinis, parties, football having
an amazing time, which was the number one way we
sold beer up until like seven years ago, and my
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beer sales would skyrocket because the overwhelming majority of my
beer drinkers like pretty girls, football and.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Having a good time. This is not rocket science.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Okay, The number of women out there who are offended
because girls in bikinis help to sell beer is virtually zero.
There's people who claim that they're offended, but the actual
number of people who are offended by this zero.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I mean, look at we're in the news business right basically,
and you look at you look on TV. Now, yes,
it's not a modeling competition, but it's obviously an advantage
for men and for women. I mean you'll notice, like
even the mail anchors are you know, they tend to
choose for handsomeness at some level. This is just a
basic reality of marketing that we're all aware of now
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are There can be things can go too far, there
can be things in bad taste. But what's really interesting
is that they've clearly decided that the beer industry, as
partying football and babes is something that they're ashamed of.
And I mean the people who work in marketing in
the beer industry, right, that's what this ad is really
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all about. It's like, I can't believe this is how
we used to sell stuff. It's like well, ultimately you're
talking about beer. I mean, I know people in this
We got all the emails that you could tell the
difference between you know, Mulson and Cores and Miller and
Sam Adams. I mean, I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Okay, I will say, like hire in beer, Like okay,
there's a difference between Guinness and Bud Light, right, I
could tell that's between those every day.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
There's not much difference between.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I'm gonna go to the war on this buck everybody
out there being like, you give me a blind taste test,
and I can tell you what a Miller light is
versus a Cores light versus Bud Light. I give you
nachos and a hot dog, and you eat those first,
and then you start to take a drip sip of beer.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
You can't tell the difference.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
My point here just being that it is obviously a
big part of it is marketing, right, This is it's
the perception of the brand. What does this brand represent
for you? What does this brand represent overall? That's true
in beer, It's true in you know, chocolate bars and
cars and you name it, right, we all all know
this stuff. Marketing one oh one, Tutor Dixon, you mentioned her.
(09:04):
We have it now here she is you ran for governor.
Now she's on the klan Buck podcast, which is a
phenomenal podcast stream you should all subscribe to on the
iHeart app. But anyway, here she is saying, you know,
beer in bikinis not a bad combo from.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
A marketing's perspective, I think it's very clear that those
were not their buyers. So now they know that the
trans community was not their main source of revenue, you
have got to look at that. I'm telling you my
marketing strategy for them will work. Go back to chicks
and bikinis with a car wash, drinking bud light, you're
gonna sell a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
True, I mean the you know the association. Also, this
is true for wine drinkers. And now I'm starting to
sound like I sit around with a top hat in
a monocle.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
I don't drink.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Beer, but I drink a little bit of wine. But
I've dressed like mister peanut when I drink my wine.
Apparently I've got like a little cane, little top hat.
But they've they've done studies to show this is sounding
really nerdy talking about alcohol, but that people's belief that
what they're drinking is really good, meaning really really excellent
vintage does enhance the pleasure they get from drinking it,
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So the perception can drive some of the pleasurable brain
signal reality of it. And so the whole point here
for Miller and bought it everything because someone they crack
it open, relaxing partying. I mean this is just in
all the marketing, and if the association is beautiful women partying,
sunny place, good day, that can affect the way the
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beer actually tastes to the person. As crazy as to
some as that may sound.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Most of life is aspirational and most of marketing is
making people aspire to be in better places than they
are right now. Most beer drinking, let's be honest, is
by men by themselves in their house.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I think that's the number one way I would imagine
that beer is consumed on average in America. Is a
guy who's fifty years old drinks a beer by himself
in his house. The way they sell beer is, oh,
you're gonna be at the super Bowl and you're gonna
be hanging out with a Victoria's Secret supermodel. Back when
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the super Victoria's Secret Supermodels. Actually we're good looking and
not just fat chicks. And you're gonna be hanging out
with all your best buddies high fiving. Your team's gonna win.
And the reality is you're probably watching your team lose
from your from your house by yourself, and and and
that's the reality. But the aspirational aspects of it are good.
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And here's the challenge. And I think about this a
lot because I could see this tying in with why
Vice has gone bankrupt and why BuzzFeed has collapsed. Buck
these marketing people that all these big brands hire, they
live in New York and LA. They never drink beer,
they certainly never drink light beer. And they go out
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and they talk to their friends and it's some you know,
Harvard mba who's thirty seven years old, a woman, and
she's like, hey, what would make you drink Miller Lite
or bud Light even though her friends never drink it
now and they sit around and they're drinking wine and
they say, well, you know, if they were just less misogynistic, maybe,
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And the answer is no, You're never gonna walk up
to a bar if you are a thirty seven year
old graduate degree woman by and large and be like Hey,
I'll have a Miller lit.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
You just aren't gonna do that. You're not going to
order a bud Light.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
But they convince themselves that if they run a marketing
campaign to appeal to the people in their social circles,
that it will somehow work, when the reality is, it's
some dude in the Midwest who loves Ohio State, it's
some guy in Alabama who loves Auburn and they sit
around and they drink light beer, and they like football,
and guess what they like good looking girls. That's the base.
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Don't try and change your brand. You are destroying what
major brand exists in the first place by hiring these people.
And yet they do it over and over and over again.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
Brad Steltz would like to go out the record that
Clay is both man splating and beer splaining, and Stelter
is literally shaking right now, literally shaking right now.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
So I just want everyone to know the beer splitting
and man splating has not gone unnoticed by the MSM
out there.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You can handle the truth more. Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton coming up.
Speaker 10 (13:39):
I'm grateful for Ireland's partnership and delivering the game change.
This game change international agreement. Similarly, the deep connection is
always this between our people and the land has translated
into a commitment to fight climate crisis, to preserve our
planet for future generations. A single existential threat to the
world is climate change. We don't have a lot of time,
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and that's a fact. Or even recognizing finally, everyone's recognizing America.
I've flown over more territory in the United States since
I've been president. A helicopter has been burned the ground
and comprises the entire state of Maryland.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
That's a weird fact.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
With Klay, Travis buck Sexton, Joe Biden addressing the media
about the existential threat as it's always called of climate change,
and Buck, I have trouble even focusing on what Biden
is saying because his speech feels to me so strained,
even in terms of the way he sounds, you know
what I'm talking about. It's like he's sucking on his
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teeth and trying his best and so aggressively to even
read what's been written on the teleprompter that he has
almost no idea what he's even saying.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I also am I'm mad and disgusted that Democrats have
put us in this position. I don't want to sit
here and make fun of a really old man for
being old, or even have to talk about it. But
he's the president, he's the commander in chief, he's got
the nuclear because we have no choice, right, this is
what they have. This is the hand we the American people,
have been dealt that this guy, Joe Biden is the president.
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But it just goes to I think a ruthlessness and
a recklessness that the Democrats have that they would put
us in the position where we've got to say, guys,
he's in the certainly the early maybe mid stages of dementia.
We can all see it. And then just also on
the climate change thing, of all of the Democrat obsessions,
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you know, I actually asked carry this versu. I was curious, like,
when was the last time he came across somebody who's
talking about this, who you thought was really truly terrified
of climate change? And when you're talking about an existential threat,
you know, massive nuclear war with Russia, which you know,
something we should keep in mind. We don't want that.
That is an existential threat to humanity, no question about it.
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One degree celsius rise in temperature maybe over the next
one hundred years is going to end humanity. This is lunacy,
Clay and the President of the United States says it
like it's some established fact that we can all agree on.
Existential means no longer existing. All of us are going
to die. The whole world's going to end.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
Well.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
And actually, if you look at the data, great cold
kills far more people than great heat. So even if
you look at people who are dying in climate related disasters,
the numbers are actually declining. So and look, if you
actually analyze historically the amount that temperatures have swung wildly
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in the world and on our.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Globe, it's happened throughout human history.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
So this is the one where I legitimately sit back
and say I have never lost a moment's sleep ever
being concerned about what's going to happen to the climate
zero zero my entire life.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You know, they can talk about like wealth inequality and
things like that, and I'll say, all right, they're using
it as a as an open door for socialism.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
But that's a problem.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I can see. That's an issue. You know, this isn't
even an issue, but it's the biggest one we face.
Biden says in Ireland.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
One truth revealed after another. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We have with us right now, Senator Ran Paul. Senator Paul,
great to have you back with us, Sir, representing the
wonderful state of Kentucky. You want to talk to us
about AI. We haven't really gotten into it that much
on the program. Maybe we should more going forward. What
are the primary things that people all across the country
right now need to know when it comes to artificial intelligence,
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and what are your concerns.
Speaker 11 (17:50):
You know, our concern is that the government use a
tool like this to actually spy on its own citizens.
You know, when I first read nineteen eighty four when
I was a kid, I was concerned, but it really
wasn't alarmed because I said, Hey, government doesn't have two
way television screens. They can't surveil all of us all
the time because they don't have the technology. We now
have the technology, and the technology itself is not evil
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or bad. Technology is neither technology is neutral, but it's
a technology that control through a great amount of information.
So if the government decides to use artificial intelligence on
Twitter or social media to look for certain phrases that
they find to be disinformation or the government doesn't like.
Let's say, for example, that I say COVID vaccines aren't
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really necessary for children who've already had COVID. There's a
lot of scientific evidence to back that up, but it's
an opinion, and you can have an alternative opinion. But
what if those code words are put into an algorithm
artificial intelligence controls through the Internet, and then the government
takes down comments it doesn't like. That's a real First
Amendment problem. And so my point in the hearing today
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on the Hill was that it's not just about regulating technology,
it's about saying you cannot use technology to limit speech
that is protected by the Constitution.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Senator, how transformative do you think AI is going to
be in all facets of life? And I asked this
question because it wasn't very long ago that Mark Zuckerberg
came out and he said, Hey, I'm changing the entire
name of Facebook to Meta because I believe this online
metaverse is going to be rapidly the future. I think
that has crumbled in the last year. You heard a
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lot about meta based on what you are seeing associated
with AI. How transformative is it in the next four
or five years? How much different might our lives be
based on the growth and transformations effect of AI.
Speaker 11 (19:44):
I think the first thing is is I do not
preach irrational fear of technology or of artificial intelligence. It
can be used for good, it can be used for harm.
There are many things where there's a great deal of information.
So we had one of our experts today, Jacob Siegel,
who I wrote a great essay on tablet that I recommend,
and he used to be an intelligence officer in the military,
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and he says for foreign purposes, there's some usefulness to
taking artificial intelligence. If we've been eavesdropping on either phone
calls or communications, and we have large cases of information
on people who might be our enemies, artificial intelligence to
troll through that to find things is important. But it's
different if someone has a large database of Americans phone
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calls and wants to troll through that. Because we have
First Amendment rights, we have Fourth Amendment rights. It's different
on where you apply it. So artificial intelligence applied to
coming through communications for intelligence of people who don't live
in the United States, I'm all for that. If you
want to troll through Americans conversations, I'm completely against it.
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And you should have to go to a judge on
an individualized basis and ask for a warrant and present
probable calls why you want to listen to this information.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
So it really is a.
Speaker 11 (20:55):
Matter of obeying the Constitution that's important to me, not
the technology. As far as transformative, yeah, I think it
will be, but I think we don't have to have
undue fear of this. We just have to keep in perspective.
And this has been going on for a while, even
without AI, going all the way back to nine to eleven,
the Department of Homeland Security has been spuying on Americans.
People who are pro life, people are pro constitution, people
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who support certain candidates, are part of a profile of
people that they talk about that they should have increase
or stepped up observation of these people. And I think
that's wrong. And so it's not just artificial intelligence. Really
it's about trying to say government should not be snooping
on Americans.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Speaking of Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky, Senator Paul, I
want to switch gears and get your take on just
not really so much the latest in Ukraine, but the
overall policy trajectory. I mean, in the last twenty four
hours there have been there's a major missile barrage of
Russian missiles fired at Ukraine, the Kiev, the capital city
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of Ukraine. It feels like this just continues to drag on, escalate,
more casualties, more money. What do you make of the
policy right now that this country has towards Ukraine and
do you think that it could it could and should
be changed in twenty twenty four Well.
Speaker 11 (22:12):
So far we've given about one hundred billion dollars to Ukraine,
money we don't have and has to be borrowed from
China to send to Ukraine. Now, as far as sympathies, sure,
my sympathies are with the underdog, with a country that's
been attacked with Ukraine. I think Putin made an unwise
decision or turn out to be one of the worst
decisions he's ever made, or any leader made, because he's
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now trapped in a war he can't win. Likewise, I
don't think Ukraine can win either, and I don't think
we should be for sending unlimited money that we don't have,
that we have to borrow to send to them. I
think the longer the money stick it stays open, the
longer the war continues, and really there have to be
some realistic limits. There needs to be a negotiated solution
because neither side is going to win and outright unconditional
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surrender from the other. And so one, we don't have
the money, but two, I think more lives will be
lost in the country, will be further destroyed if the
war continues on.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
The year after a year, Senator, I know a lot
of the German report findings had been widely discussed, certainly
on this program and many others over the years.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
You've run for president before. How do we fix the FBI?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
What do we need to do to make it actually
a trustworthy governmental institution?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Again? What would you do if you were tasked with
that responsibility?
Speaker 11 (23:32):
The number one most important thing is we should not
be allowed to spy on Americans or invade Americans privacy
without an order from a judge, from an Article three judge.
What happened to the Trump campaign was that the FBI
went after them using Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court orders. So
this court was set up in the nineteen seventies to
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go after foreigners, that's the name Foreign Intelligent Surveillance, and
instead of being used against Americans. I have a simple
amendment to FIZA and it simply says FIZA can't be
used on Americans. And people say, well, what if the
American is a terrorist, go to a judge. I don't
know a judge in America that won't give you a
warrant if you come with evidence that somebody is colluding
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with some foreign power to be a terrorist in this country.
Most of nine to eleven, most of the information we
had was not divulged, not for a denial of a warrant.
They never asked for a warrant. So after nine to
eleven they came to us and said, oh, we need
all this extra power because we need to be able
to get people who are in the country, like the
hijackers that were here. Nobody asked for a warrant on
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any of the potential hijackers. We knew who some of
them were, but nobody ever asked for a warrant from
a judge that was turned down. So we have the
tools and the ability to do this by the constitution.
The FBI wouldn't have all these abuses if they weren't
allowed to use FIES on Americans. So the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Court should be precluded from and only used for foreigners,
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not on Americans.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And Senator Paul one more for you, the oh Clay
has go ahead? Clay, you wanted to go again?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Well, no, I was just gonna you ask your question
that I'm going to ask him. We've got a primary
going on in Kentucky. I want to make sure we
encourage people to go vote and why that's important.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
That I like you?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
No, no, no, I like your question more, Clay.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Oh, go please, Senator Paul, you're in Kentucky right now.
Obviously a lot of our Kentucky listeners, there is a
primary to select the nominee to take on the governor.
It's a Democrat governor. You lived through what Governor Basher
did associated with COVID. He got almost everything wrong. How
important is it that all of our listeners out in
Kentucky go and select a nominee today, but then also
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zealously support that nominee up into the election in November.
Speaker 11 (25:47):
Yeah. I think we have several good candidates. I haven't
endorsed in the primary, but I will endorse the winner
of the primary today. I also think that the election
in the fall will be closer than many things Kentucky's
the state that's been leaning Republican for quite a while.
But the race will be a fifty to fifty race
in the fall. But the job of the Republican nominee
will be to remind Kentuckians that this governor actually shut
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down churches on Easter and sent the state government agents
to take down license plates of people going to church.
This governor for bid travel, this governor for bid going
to school, and almost every one of this governor's emergency
edicts were later struck down by federal judges. So these
were big things that we're not going to forget very soon.
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And whoever the nominee is, it's their job to remind
the voters and remind people of Kentucky of the authoritarian impulse,
of the authoritarian actions of this governor, because what happened
under COVID should never ever happen again.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Senator, this is a perfect moment to let you take
a crack at our throwback clip.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Here.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
This is Rachelle Wolenski. I think this is twenty twenty
two or maybe twenty fo yeah, twenty twenty two. He
or she is saying that masks are eighty percent effective
play it.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
The evidence is clear mask can help prevent the spread
of COVID nineteen by reducing your chance of infection by
more than eighty percent, whether it's an infection from the flu,
from the coronavirus, or even just the common cold. In
combination with other steps like getting your vaccination, hand washing,
and keeping physical distance, wearing your mask is an important
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step you can take to keep us all healthy.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Senator Paul, you're also you're also doctor Paul, And that
was November twenty twenty one. Eighty percent, they say stops
COVID by eighty percent.
Speaker 11 (27:41):
Even Anthony Falci no longer believes this. He was interviewed
by The New York Times and an extensive piece about
a week or two ago, and Fauci's response was, well, mask,
you know, maybe ten percent effective on the margins if
you wear one of the really ad the effective ones.
So even Fuci admits they weren't working, even though he
plastering them all over his face. It was all theater.
(28:03):
It was all about submission, and really there's no good
scientific evidence. There's been a Cochran study, a multi variate
analysis of many different studies, and it came to the
conclusion no randomized control studies have shown that masked work
in the public setting, and so we were forced to
do things based on pseudoscience, based on Fauci's impulse to authoritarianism,
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but there was no real evidence at mass work. The
mandates didn't work if you look with states and counties
that put the mandates on no relation to any reduction
and infection. Basically, they were dishonest with us. But this
is why trust and belief in public health officials as
an all time low. They brought it on themselves by
being dishonest with the public.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Senator Ran Paul always appreciate you, sir, thanks for being
with us.
Speaker 11 (28:48):
Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
More fun and conversation coming up from Claye Travis and
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Buck, I had a fun Well, it wasn't really that fun,
but it was an interesting interaction. I had two interesting
interactions right after I finished the show yesterday. Okay, interaction
number one. So I'm publishing this new book. It's coming
out in August, and I had a call with the
lawyer who had reviewed it to make sure whether there
are things that need to be changed for legal reasons whatever.
(29:24):
Nothing needs to be changed, but only like five or
six people have read my book, and so at the
end of the call, I was like, Hey, what did
you think of the book? And he was like, I
disagreed with all of it, and I.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Was just thinking.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I was just thinking for the lawyer who had to
review my entire book, and he hated every single argument
that I made the whole way through.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
That's really kind of remarkable.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Second thing was I'm trying to get life insurance because
you know, I'm forty four now, I got young family
want to take care of him, whatever. So I've got
a medical exam that I have to do.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You got a little more as salt than and that beard, buddy,
I'm just saying it true.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I'm getting think about that the other day. I've never
dyed the beard, but I was actually trimming my beard
this morning. It's almost all white. My hair has not
gone white. But I'm gonna be like a little bit
of a weird dude because I'm gonna just have a
white beard and then still not white. Hey, I don't
know if anybody else has had this happen. It doesn't
make sense to me why the beard would go white
and the hair would stay relatively brown or whatever. So
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I'm not sure what the cause is there, but she
comes in and it's pretty detailed, like at one point
she has me hooked up to an EKG and I
gotta lay down on the couch and there's like all
these different prongs to read my heart and everything else,
and she's taking a lot of blood and everything else.
But the minute she walks in, she hears me and
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she says, oh my god, I love the show. And
then the second part she's like, you haven't been able
to eat your turkey and cheese sandwich today because I
wasn't allowed to eat food before the examination. So she's like,
we got to get through with this really fast. So
I wanted to thank Glory for coming out and making
sure hopefully that I don't die anytime soon, and that
if I do, at least the family gets money for it.
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But I love that she was such a listener that
she immediately thought, because of the blood work and everything else, oh,
you haven't had an opportunity to eat lunch.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
So she was fantastic.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
In much more serious news, I would say, we also
have a call, and this call is asking I think
a really smart question because Buck, the conversation we were
just having is about the fact that they may well
stack multiple different cases on Trump because not a coincidence.
They wanted to have this trial in January of twenty four,
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and then if their charge is brought in the Atlanta,
Georgia case, you stacked that case. And then if there
are charges brought by the Department of Justice, she stacked
that as well. Trump can't simultaneously be in multiple different courtrooms,
so one would have to follow the other. They're potentially
trying to put him in courtrooms for the entirety of
twenty twenty four to rig the election in favor of
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Joe Biden and Andy and Austin, Texas has a good
question about this.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
Yeah, so is their collision between those offices? I think
we I think Jim Jordan ought to subpoena every one
of them and get any of their phone records, all
their emailing records. You just see if if we have
the DNC and the d o J and the DA
and in New York and the DA and in Atlanta,
just to see what kind of conversations they're having between
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one another.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Fantastic idea.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
So I think there's there's two levels to this. One
is the idea that we just need to start fighting
fire with fire, which is what this caller is going
to uh, and I completely agree. It never stops. They're
never going to stop because they feel guilty about cheating,
about foul play, about any of that. Right, They're just
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gonna keep doing it until they are stopped. One way,
you may be able to get them to not use
this Trump indictment as a present. You think this is
the last time they're going to indict a politician to
try to stop them from being a contender against them
and their power.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Definitely not.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
So you have to find a way to exact a
price for the tactics that they're using. So that's part one.
I think you and I Clay see that the same way.
And it's a it's a great point from the caller,
And yeah, I mean, we do have a majority in
the House, thank Heavens that can use the power of spen.
Look what you know, Pelosi and her gang were pulling
people's phone records, doing all kinds of very aggressive investigative tactics.
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So that's that's for sure. On the collusion side of it.
It's interesting because I think that we've all collusion was
so misused as a term never mind the fact that
it was all lies but just misused as a term
during the Trump Error and the Mother probe, because it
really was conspiracy in legal terms that they were talking about,
like a conspiracy to you know, defraud or steal the
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election or whatever. Collusion I think only exists in criminal
statute when it comes to antitrust law. So it's like
price fixing between companies. I don't know if you I
don't think you can have collusion that go those to
government agencies. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
It's an interesting legal question. I would say a couple
of things. One, his general premise is a good one.
I would love to know how much interaction there has
been between prosecutors in Georgia, New York, and in the
Department of Justice as it pertains to their Trump investigations.
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
All right, second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off
right now. Everybody appreciate you rolling with us. We set
up the basics of the Daniel Penny trial.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
It is now a trial. He has been indicted on Friday.
We're going to return to that story here in just
a few moments. Also keeping a close eye on the border.
It feels at some level like we're just giving you
updates on that disaster becoming more disastrous and some of
the additional second order effects, like now there are people
(00:35):
being told, sorry, you can't actually rent those rooms, or
you're not able to you know, veterans aren't able to
be housed. Let's say in some of this housing that's
meant for people to help them get back on their feet.
Got to clear out room for the illegals. That's what
we see going on. That's what we see happening. So
we'll return to those stories in a second. But this
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just hit me, I mean, Clay me this and I
couldn't believe honestly at the time that this is where
things had had gone. This is the reality that we
all we all face. But they must not have been
paying very close attention over at the whoever owns I
don't even know who owns Mile Life. I, as you
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all know, I don't really know much about beer at all. Beer,
I guess, and professional sports teams these days. I have
siliac disease, so I cannot drink. Drinking beer for me
is like drinking poison. I can't drink beer normal beer.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I know.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I just gonna say, what about sorgum ale? I always
want to say that people, Clay, does that sound awesome
to you? Sorghum?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I just want to say that might have been the
most Brian Stelter like audio drop of your career. I
don't really drink beer, and I don't know anything about sports.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
And then everybody out there.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Is like Stelter's like I Stilter pumped his fist and
he was like I do buck was that guys?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Sex?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It is on the team. He is right there with me.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Soon you, you and Stelter are gonna be having like
where you just hug and cry, you.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Know, just try one out. You put your head on
his shoulder.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Every words, onesies, It's gonna be great, you know, with
the little You're gonna to the pjs.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
The walking around with vagina hats before all is sudden
done here pretty soon in the women's march.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
All right, just get back to.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Making fun of cors Lighter, miller Light or whoever, sir.
Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. So here we had
Miller Lte watching what had happened to bud Light and deciding,
you know what, it's a good time for us to
release an ad where we also try to move the
feminist conversation about beer making forward. Play some of this audio, guys,
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here's a.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Little known fact. Women were among the very first to
brew beer ever, from Mesopotamia to the Middle Ages to
colonial America. Women were the ones doing the brewing centuries later.
How did the industry pay homage to the founding mothers
of beer?
Speaker 7 (02:53):
They put us in bikinis.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
Wow, it's time beer made it up to women. So
today miller Light is on a mission to clean up
not just there's.
Speaker 8 (03:02):
The whole beer industries.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Miller Light has been scarrying the Internet for all this
and buying it back so that you can turn it
into goods for women brewers. But there's definitely more shed
out there in your attic in the garage in your parents' basement,
Send any you got into Miller Lighte and they'll turn
that into good too. So here's to women, because without us,
there would be no beer.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, there also would be no humanity or existence. We
all get that. We're all very pro women here. This
is this is utterly bizarre.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
And also this this.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Game that that we're all going to play. Now, you
know what the most consistent privilege across all cultures, across
all societies, all races, all religions, all periods in history.
You know what the real privilege is, Clay good looking people. Now,
Clay is shaking his head. He's like, yeah, I know
it's a big it's a big challenge for the very
good look at folks. But I'm just I'm just telling you,
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pretty people, privilege as it is known, that is real,
and you know, it's just the way that it is.
And this notion that you know, we're not using bikinis
to sell beer anymore, it's like, what are you using
to sell beer these days? Because the whole guy dressed
as a girl thing didn't work out very well.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
So for people out there who haven't seen this video,
this is a woman walking through a factory floor like
a beer universe.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
I don't know brewery.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I'm not sure exactly what it's supposed to be. And
behind her there's all these photos of old Miller Light
ads with girls in bikinis. So, first of all, if
you want to talk, everybody wants to talk about privilege
these days. The apex of privilege is hot girl privilege.
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If you are an incredibly good looking woman, you get
more privileged than anyone who has ever existed in the
history of mankind. And everybody out there listening knows that
this goes on all the time.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Back in the day, there used to be a Seinfeld
is a great show.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Right, Seinfeld was dating a really good looking woman and
he basically made this argument she could do anything that
she wanted. Really good looking women can get away with anything.
So if you really wanted to go and address the
privilege hierarchy, this is the apex. Okay, I also don't
understand if you are Miller Lite and you are looking
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around at everything that's going on with bud Light and
you have legitimately buck seen your overall brand scales sales.
This was in the Wall Street Journal, skyrocket by twenty percent.
Why in the world, would you decide that you were
going to do anything to help light yourself on fire
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in the same method, magnitude or process by which bud
Light has done this. And I think the only answer
is because when this is also funny, this would be
a funny year than this ridiculous miller lte Ad would
be the guy who was sitting in the marketing room
when they played this ad, who one hundred percent knew
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that this ad was a disaster, but was afraid he'd
be called a misogynist if he said, Hey, I don't
think we should repudiate our ads featuring women in bikinis.
And this also ties in can we pull back up
the Tutor Dixon clip that we played on Thursday. I
own a beer Grottis Beer located in Tennessee. We got
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a beer company. We're having fun with it. It's just
in Tennessee. I'd encourage you to drink it. If I
owned a big national beer company right now, I would
go so aggressively into girls in bikinis, parties, football having
an amazing time, which was the number one way we
sold beer up until like seven years ago, and my
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beer sales would skyrocket because the overwhelming majority of my
beer drinkers like pretty girls, football and.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Having a good time. This is not rocket science.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Okay, The number of women out there who are offended
because girls in bikinis help to sell beer is virtually zero.
There's people who claim that they're offended, but the actual
number of people who are offended by this zero.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I mean, look at we're in the news business right basically,
and you look at you look on TV. Now, yes,
it's not a modeling competition, but it's obviously an advantage
for men and for women. I mean you'll notice, like
even the mail anchors are you know, they tend to
choose for handsomeness at some level. This is just a
basic reality of marketing that we're all aware of now
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are There can be things can go too far, there
can be things in bad taste. But what's really interesting
is that they've clearly decided that the beer industry, as
partying football and babes is something that they're ashamed of.
And I mean the people who work in marketing in
the beer industry, right, that's what this ad is really
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all about. It's like, I can't believe this is how
we used to sell stuff. It's like well, ultimately you're
talking about beer. I mean, I know people in this
We got all the emails that you could tell the
difference between you know, Mulson and Cores and Miller and
Sam Adams. I mean, I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Okay, I will say, like hire in beer, Like okay,
there's a difference between Guinness and Bud Light, right, I
could tell that's between those every day.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
There's not much difference between.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I'm gonna go to the war on this buck everybody
out there being like, you give me a blind taste test,
and I can tell you what a Miller light is
versus a Cores light versus Bud Light. I give you
nachos and a hot dog, and you eat those first,
and then you start to take a drip sip of beer.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
You can't tell the difference.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
My point here just being that it is obviously a
big part of it is marketing, right, This is it's
the perception of the brand. What does this brand represent
for you? What does this brand represent overall? That's true
in beer, It's true in you know, chocolate bars and
cars and you name it, right, we all all know
this stuff. Marketing one oh one, Tutor Dixon, you mentioned her.
(09:04):
We have it now here she is you ran for governor.
Now she's on the klan Buck podcast, which is a
phenomenal podcast stream you should all subscribe to on the
iHeart app. But anyway, here she is saying, you know,
beer in bikinis not a bad combo from.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
A marketing's perspective, I think it's very clear that those
were not their buyers. So now they know that the
trans community was not their main source of revenue, you
have got to look at that. I'm telling you my
marketing strategy for them will work. Go back to chicks
and bikinis with a car wash, drinking bud light, you're
gonna sell a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
True, I mean the you know the association. Also, this
is true for wine drinkers. And now I'm starting to
sound like I sit around with a top hat in
a monocle.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
I don't drink.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Beer, but I drink a little bit of wine. But
I've dressed like mister peanut when I drink my wine.
Apparently I've got like a little cane, little top hat.
But they've they've done studies to show this is sounding
really nerdy talking about alcohol, but that people's belief that
what they're drinking is really good, meaning really really excellent
vintage does enhance the pleasure they get from drinking it,
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So the perception can drive some of the pleasurable brain
signal reality of it. And so the whole point here
for Miller and bought it everything because someone they crack
it open, relaxing partying. I mean this is just in
all the marketing, and if the association is beautiful women partying,
sunny place, good day, that can affect the way the
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beer actually tastes to the person. As crazy as to
some as that may sound.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Most of life is aspirational and most of marketing is
making people aspire to be in better places than they
are right now. Most beer drinking, let's be honest, is
by men by themselves in their house.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I think that's the number one way I would imagine
that beer is consumed on average in America. Is a
guy who's fifty years old drinks a beer by himself
in his house. The way they sell beer is, oh,
you're gonna be at the super Bowl and you're gonna
be hanging out with a Victoria's Secret supermodel. Back when
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the super Victoria's Secret Supermodels. Actually we're good looking and
not just fat chicks. And you're gonna be hanging out
with all your best buddies high fiving. Your team's gonna win.
And the reality is you're probably watching your team lose
from your from your house by yourself, and and and
that's the reality. But the aspirational aspects of it are good.
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And here's the challenge. And I think about this a
lot because I could see this tying in with why
Vice has gone bankrupt and why BuzzFeed has collapsed. Buck
these marketing people that all these big brands hire, they
live in New York and LA. They never drink beer,
they certainly never drink light beer. And they go out
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and they talk to their friends and it's some you know,
Harvard mba who's thirty seven years old, a woman, and
she's like, hey, what would make you drink Miller Lite
or bud Light even though her friends never drink it
now and they sit around and they're drinking wine and
they say, well, you know, if they were just less misogynistic, maybe,
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And the answer is no, You're never gonna walk up
to a bar if you are a thirty seven year
old graduate degree woman by and large and be like Hey,
I'll have a Miller lit.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
You just aren't gonna do that. You're not going to
order a bud Light.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
But they convince themselves that if they run a marketing
campaign to appeal to the people in their social circles,
that it will somehow work, when the reality is, it's
some dude in the Midwest who loves Ohio State, it's
some guy in Alabama who loves Auburn and they sit
around and they drink light beer, and they like football,
and guess what they like good looking girls. That's the base.
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Don't try and change your brand. You are destroying what
major brand exists in the first place by hiring these people.
And yet they do it over and over and over again.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
Brad Steltz would like to go out the record that
Clay is both man splating and beer splaining, and Stelter
is literally shaking right now, literally shaking right now.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
So I just want everyone to know the beer splitting
and man splating has not gone unnoticed by the MSM
out there.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You can handle the truth more. Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton coming up.
Speaker 10 (13:39):
I'm grateful for Ireland's partnership and delivering the game change.
This game change international agreement. Similarly, the deep connection is
always this between our people and the land has translated
into a commitment to fight climate crisis, to preserve our
planet for future generations. A single existential threat to the
world is climate change. We don't have a lot of time,
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and that's a fact. Or even recognizing finally, everyone's recognizing America.
I've flown over more territory in the United States since
I've been president. A helicopter has been burned the ground
and comprises the entire state of Maryland.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
That's a weird fact.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
With Klay, Travis buck Sexton, Joe Biden addressing the media
about the existential threat as it's always called of climate change,
and Buck, I have trouble even focusing on what Biden
is saying because his speech feels to me so strained,
even in terms of the way he sounds, you know
what I'm talking about. It's like he's sucking on his
(14:40):
teeth and trying his best and so aggressively to even
read what's been written on the teleprompter that he has
almost no idea what he's even saying.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I also am I'm mad and disgusted that Democrats have
put us in this position. I don't want to sit
here and make fun of a really old man for
being old, or even have to talk about it. But
he's the president, he's the commander in chief, he's got
the nuclear because we have no choice, right, this is
what they have. This is the hand we the American people,
have been dealt that this guy, Joe Biden is the president.
(15:14):
But it just goes to I think a ruthlessness and
a recklessness that the Democrats have that they would put
us in the position where we've got to say, guys,
he's in the certainly the early maybe mid stages of dementia.
We can all see it. And then just also on
the climate change thing, of all of the Democrat obsessions,
(15:35):
you know, I actually asked carry this versu. I was curious, like,
when was the last time he came across somebody who's
talking about this, who you thought was really truly terrified
of climate change? And when you're talking about an existential threat,
you know, massive nuclear war with Russia, which you know,
something we should keep in mind. We don't want that.
That is an existential threat to humanity, no question about it.
(15:58):
One degree celsius rise in temperature maybe over the next
one hundred years is going to end humanity. This is lunacy,
Clay and the President of the United States says it
like it's some established fact that we can all agree on.
Existential means no longer existing. All of us are going
to die. The whole world's going to end.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
Well.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
And actually, if you look at the data, great cold
kills far more people than great heat. So even if
you look at people who are dying in climate related disasters,
the numbers are actually declining. So and look, if you
actually analyze historically the amount that temperatures have swung wildly
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in the world and on our.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Globe, it's happened throughout human history.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
So this is the one where I legitimately sit back
and say I have never lost a moment's sleep ever
being concerned about what's going to happen to the climate
zero zero my entire life.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You know, they can talk about like wealth inequality and
things like that, and I'll say, all right, they're using
it as a as an open door for socialism.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
But that's a problem.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I can see. That's an issue. You know, this isn't
even an issue, but it's the biggest one we face.
Biden says in Ireland.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
One truth revealed after another. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We have with us right now, Senator Ran Paul. Senator Paul,
great to have you back with us, Sir, representing the
wonderful state of Kentucky. You want to talk to us
about AI. We haven't really gotten into it that much
on the program. Maybe we should more going forward. What
are the primary things that people all across the country
right now need to know when it comes to artificial intelligence,
(17:48):
and what are your concerns.
Speaker 11 (17:50):
You know, our concern is that the government use a
tool like this to actually spy on its own citizens.
You know, when I first read nineteen eighty four when
I was a kid, I was concerned, but it really
wasn't alarmed because I said, Hey, government doesn't have two
way television screens. They can't surveil all of us all
the time because they don't have the technology. We now
have the technology, and the technology itself is not evil
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or bad. Technology is neither technology is neutral, but it's
a technology that control through a great amount of information.
So if the government decides to use artificial intelligence on
Twitter or social media to look for certain phrases that
they find to be disinformation or the government doesn't like.
Let's say, for example, that I say COVID vaccines aren't
(18:36):
really necessary for children who've already had COVID. There's a
lot of scientific evidence to back that up, but it's
an opinion, and you can have an alternative opinion. But
what if those code words are put into an algorithm
artificial intelligence controls through the Internet, and then the government
takes down comments it doesn't like. That's a real First
Amendment problem. And so my point in the hearing today
(18:57):
on the Hill was that it's not just about regulating technology,
it's about saying you cannot use technology to limit speech
that is protected by the Constitution.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Senator, how transformative do you think AI is going to
be in all facets of life? And I asked this
question because it wasn't very long ago that Mark Zuckerberg
came out and he said, Hey, I'm changing the entire
name of Facebook to Meta because I believe this online
metaverse is going to be rapidly the future. I think
that has crumbled in the last year. You heard a
(19:29):
lot about meta based on what you are seeing associated
with AI. How transformative is it in the next four
or five years? How much different might our lives be
based on the growth and transformations effect of AI.
Speaker 11 (19:44):
I think the first thing is is I do not
preach irrational fear of technology or of artificial intelligence. It
can be used for good, it can be used for harm.
There are many things where there's a great deal of information.
So we had one of our experts today, Jacob Siegel,
who I wrote a great essay on tablet that I recommend,
and he used to be an intelligence officer in the military,
(20:05):
and he says for foreign purposes, there's some usefulness to
taking artificial intelligence. If we've been eavesdropping on either phone
calls or communications, and we have large cases of information
on people who might be our enemies, artificial intelligence to
troll through that to find things is important. But it's
different if someone has a large database of Americans phone
(20:26):
calls and wants to troll through that. Because we have
First Amendment rights, we have Fourth Amendment rights. It's different
on where you apply it. So artificial intelligence applied to
coming through communications for intelligence of people who don't live
in the United States, I'm all for that. If you
want to troll through Americans conversations, I'm completely against it.
(20:47):
And you should have to go to a judge on
an individualized basis and ask for a warrant and present
probable calls why you want to listen to this information.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
So it really is a.
Speaker 11 (20:55):
Matter of obeying the Constitution that's important to me, not
the technology. As far as transformative, yeah, I think it
will be, but I think we don't have to have
undue fear of this. We just have to keep in perspective.
And this has been going on for a while, even
without AI, going all the way back to nine to eleven,
the Department of Homeland Security has been spuying on Americans.
People who are pro life, people are pro constitution, people
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who support certain candidates, are part of a profile of
people that they talk about that they should have increase
or stepped up observation of these people. And I think
that's wrong. And so it's not just artificial intelligence. Really
it's about trying to say government should not be snooping
on Americans.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Speaking of Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky, Senator Paul, I
want to switch gears and get your take on just
not really so much the latest in Ukraine, but the
overall policy trajectory. I mean, in the last twenty four
hours there have been there's a major missile barrage of
Russian missiles fired at Ukraine, the Kiev, the capital city
(21:57):
of Ukraine. It feels like this just continues to drag on, escalate,
more casualties, more money. What do you make of the
policy right now that this country has towards Ukraine and
do you think that it could it could and should
be changed in twenty twenty four Well.
Speaker 11 (22:12):
So far we've given about one hundred billion dollars to Ukraine,
money we don't have and has to be borrowed from
China to send to Ukraine. Now, as far as sympathies, sure,
my sympathies are with the underdog, with a country that's
been attacked with Ukraine. I think Putin made an unwise
decision or turn out to be one of the worst
decisions he's ever made, or any leader made, because he's
(22:34):
now trapped in a war he can't win. Likewise, I
don't think Ukraine can win either, and I don't think
we should be for sending unlimited money that we don't have,
that we have to borrow to send to them. I
think the longer the money stick it stays open, the
longer the war continues, and really there have to be
some realistic limits. There needs to be a negotiated solution
because neither side is going to win and outright unconditional
(22:57):
surrender from the other. And so one, we don't have
the money, but two, I think more lives will be
lost in the country, will be further destroyed if the
war continues on.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
The year after a year, Senator, I know a lot
of the German report findings had been widely discussed, certainly
on this program and many others over the years.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
You've run for president before. How do we fix the FBI?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
What do we need to do to make it actually
a trustworthy governmental institution?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Again? What would you do if you were tasked with
that responsibility?
Speaker 11 (23:32):
The number one most important thing is we should not
be allowed to spy on Americans or invade Americans privacy
without an order from a judge, from an Article three judge.
What happened to the Trump campaign was that the FBI
went after them using Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court orders. So
this court was set up in the nineteen seventies to
(23:54):
go after foreigners, that's the name Foreign Intelligent Surveillance, and
instead of being used against Americans. I have a simple
amendment to FIZA and it simply says FIZA can't be
used on Americans. And people say, well, what if the
American is a terrorist, go to a judge. I don't
know a judge in America that won't give you a
warrant if you come with evidence that somebody is colluding
(24:16):
with some foreign power to be a terrorist in this country.
Most of nine to eleven, most of the information we
had was not divulged, not for a denial of a warrant.
They never asked for a warrant. So after nine to
eleven they came to us and said, oh, we need
all this extra power because we need to be able
to get people who are in the country, like the
hijackers that were here. Nobody asked for a warrant on
(24:37):
any of the potential hijackers. We knew who some of
them were, but nobody ever asked for a warrant from
a judge that was turned down. So we have the
tools and the ability to do this by the constitution.
The FBI wouldn't have all these abuses if they weren't
allowed to use FIES on Americans. So the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Court should be precluded from and only used for foreigners,
(24:58):
not on Americans.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And Senator Paul one more for you, the oh Clay
has go ahead? Clay, you wanted to go again?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Well, no, I was just gonna you ask your question
that I'm going to ask him. We've got a primary
going on in Kentucky. I want to make sure we
encourage people to go vote and why that's important.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
That I like you?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
No, no, no, I like your question more, Clay.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Oh, go please, Senator Paul, you're in Kentucky right now.
Obviously a lot of our Kentucky listeners, there is a
primary to select the nominee to take on the governor.
It's a Democrat governor. You lived through what Governor Basher
did associated with COVID. He got almost everything wrong. How
important is it that all of our listeners out in
Kentucky go and select a nominee today, but then also
(25:42):
zealously support that nominee up into the election in November.
Speaker 11 (25:47):
Yeah. I think we have several good candidates. I haven't
endorsed in the primary, but I will endorse the winner
of the primary today. I also think that the election
in the fall will be closer than many things Kentucky's
the state that's been leaning Republican for quite a while.
But the race will be a fifty to fifty race
in the fall. But the job of the Republican nominee
will be to remind Kentuckians that this governor actually shut
(26:10):
down churches on Easter and sent the state government agents
to take down license plates of people going to church.
This governor for bid travel, this governor for bid going
to school, and almost every one of this governor's emergency
edicts were later struck down by federal judges. So these
were big things that we're not going to forget very soon.
(26:33):
And whoever the nominee is, it's their job to remind
the voters and remind people of Kentucky of the authoritarian impulse,
of the authoritarian actions of this governor, because what happened
under COVID should never ever happen again.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Senator, this is a perfect moment to let you take
a crack at our throwback clip.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Here.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
This is Rachelle Wolenski. I think this is twenty twenty
two or maybe twenty fo yeah, twenty twenty two. He
or she is saying that masks are eighty percent effective
play it.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
The evidence is clear mask can help prevent the spread
of COVID nineteen by reducing your chance of infection by
more than eighty percent, whether it's an infection from the flu,
from the coronavirus, or even just the common cold. In
combination with other steps like getting your vaccination, hand washing,
and keeping physical distance, wearing your mask is an important
(27:27):
step you can take to keep us all healthy.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Senator Paul, you're also you're also doctor Paul, And that
was November twenty twenty one. Eighty percent, they say stops
COVID by eighty percent.
Speaker 11 (27:41):
Even Anthony Falci no longer believes this. He was interviewed
by The New York Times and an extensive piece about
a week or two ago, and Fauci's response was, well, mask,
you know, maybe ten percent effective on the margins if
you wear one of the really ad the effective ones.
So even Fuci admits they weren't working, even though he
plastering them all over his face. It was all theater.
(28:03):
It was all about submission, and really there's no good
scientific evidence. There's been a Cochran study, a multi variate
analysis of many different studies, and it came to the
conclusion no randomized control studies have shown that masked work
in the public setting, and so we were forced to
do things based on pseudoscience, based on Fauci's impulse to authoritarianism,
(28:24):
but there was no real evidence at mass work. The
mandates didn't work if you look with states and counties
that put the mandates on no relation to any reduction
and infection. Basically, they were dishonest with us. But this
is why trust and belief in public health officials as
an all time low. They brought it on themselves by
being dishonest with the public.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Senator Ran Paul always appreciate you, sir, thanks for being
with us.
Speaker 11 (28:48):
Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
More fun and conversation coming up from Claye Travis and
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Buck, I had a fun Well, it wasn't really that fun,
but it was an interesting interaction. I had two interesting
interactions right after I finished the show yesterday. Okay, interaction
number one. So I'm publishing this new book. It's coming
out in August, and I had a call with the
lawyer who had reviewed it to make sure whether there
are things that need to be changed for legal reasons whatever.
(29:24):
Nothing needs to be changed, but only like five or
six people have read my book, and so at the
end of the call, I was like, Hey, what did
you think of the book? And he was like, I
disagreed with all of it, and I.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Was just thinking.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I was just thinking for the lawyer who had to
review my entire book, and he hated every single argument
that I made the whole way through.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
That's really kind of remarkable.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Second thing was I'm trying to get life insurance because
you know, I'm forty four now, I got young family
want to take care of him, whatever. So I've got
a medical exam that I have to do.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You got a little more as salt than and that beard, buddy,
I'm just saying it true.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I'm getting think about that the other day. I've never
dyed the beard, but I was actually trimming my beard
this morning. It's almost all white. My hair has not
gone white. But I'm gonna be like a little bit
of a weird dude because I'm gonna just have a
white beard and then still not white. Hey, I don't
know if anybody else has had this happen. It doesn't
make sense to me why the beard would go white
and the hair would stay relatively brown or whatever. So
(30:23):
I'm not sure what the cause is there, but she
comes in and it's pretty detailed, like at one point
she has me hooked up to an EKG and I
gotta lay down on the couch and there's like all
these different prongs to read my heart and everything else,
and she's taking a lot of blood and everything else.
But the minute she walks in, she hears me and
(30:43):
she says, oh my god, I love the show. And
then the second part she's like, you haven't been able
to eat your turkey and cheese sandwich today because I
wasn't allowed to eat food before the examination. So she's like,
we got to get through with this really fast. So
I wanted to thank Glory for coming out and making
sure hopefully that I don't die anytime soon, and that
if I do, at least the family gets money for it.
(31:05):
But I love that she was such a listener that
she immediately thought, because of the blood work and everything else, oh,
you haven't had an opportunity to eat lunch.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
So she was fantastic.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
In much more serious news, I would say, we also
have a call, and this call is asking I think
a really smart question because Buck, the conversation we were
just having is about the fact that they may well
stack multiple different cases on Trump because not a coincidence.
They wanted to have this trial in January of twenty four,
(31:35):
and then if their charge is brought in the Atlanta,
Georgia case, you stacked that case. And then if there
are charges brought by the Department of Justice, she stacked
that as well. Trump can't simultaneously be in multiple different courtrooms,
so one would have to follow the other. They're potentially
trying to put him in courtrooms for the entirety of
twenty twenty four to rig the election in favor of
(31:56):
Joe Biden and Andy and Austin, Texas has a good
question about this.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
Yeah, so is their collision between those offices? I think
we I think Jim Jordan ought to subpoena every one
of them and get any of their phone records, all
their emailing records. You just see if if we have
the DNC and the d o J and the DA
and in New York and the DA and in Atlanta,
just to see what kind of conversations they're having between
(32:22):
one another.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Fantastic idea.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
So I think there's there's two levels to this. One
is the idea that we just need to start fighting
fire with fire, which is what this caller is going
to uh, and I completely agree. It never stops. They're
never going to stop because they feel guilty about cheating,
about foul play, about any of that. Right, They're just
(32:45):
gonna keep doing it until they are stopped. One way,
you may be able to get them to not use
this Trump indictment as a present. You think this is
the last time they're going to indict a politician to
try to stop them from being a contender against them
and their power.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Definitely not.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
So you have to find a way to exact a
price for the tactics that they're using. So that's part one.
I think you and I Clay see that the same way.
And it's a it's a great point from the caller,
And yeah, I mean, we do have a majority in
the House, thank Heavens that can use the power of spen.
Look what you know, Pelosi and her gang were pulling
people's phone records, doing all kinds of very aggressive investigative tactics.
(33:23):
So that's that's for sure. On the collusion side of it.
It's interesting because I think that we've all collusion was
so misused as a term never mind the fact that
it was all lies but just misused as a term
during the Trump Error and the Mother probe, because it
really was conspiracy in legal terms that they were talking about,
like a conspiracy to you know, defraud or steal the
(33:45):
election or whatever. Collusion I think only exists in criminal
statute when it comes to antitrust law. So it's like
price fixing between companies. I don't know if you I
don't think you can have collusion that go those to
government agencies. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
It's an interesting legal question. I would say a couple
of things. One, his general premise is a good one.
I would love to know how much interaction there has
been between prosecutors in Georgia, New York, and in the
Department of Justice as it pertains to their Trump investigations.
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