June 5, 2023 • 37 mins
Senator Tim Scott goes on The View, hits it out of the park, tells the truth about dishonest Democrat identity politics. C&B take calls. Why did the FBI ignore a credible Biden Crime Family whistleblower? DOJ preparing to charge Trump in classified documents case? No leaks from special counsel looking at Biden docs case. Thanks to all for supporting Carrie Sexton's T2T climb. Producer Ali gets married.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
All right, everybody, second hour of Clay and Buck kicks
off right this moment. Thanks for being with us from
all across the nation. You will recall if you were listening,
and if you weren't, by the way, because you missed it,
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(00:25):
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listen to Clay and Buck Show hour by hour on
demand anytime you like. We also have other podcasts going
in there. Clay I had a forty minute sit down
with doctor j Batacharia. It was just, oh man, it
was so good. It was like a therapy session to
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go over. He was the one of the authors of
the Great Barentine Declaration. Just talking about how from a
Stanford medical school, you know, world class medical researcher, how
everything they said was wrong and it was and they
knew it at different times. Dude. That was the part
that I found. They knew they were lying to people
(01:05):
about masks, about vaccine stopping spread anyway. So but that's
in the Clay and Buck feed. I'm just saying everyone's
got to check it out. The Tutor Dixon Show is
in there too, so please subscribe the iHeart app or
wherever you get your podcasts now. We also had Senator
Tim Scott on. I'm sorry, all the weeks kind of
(01:25):
crashed together in my mind. I think it was last
week we had the Senator on? Is that right? Last Monday,
Senator Scott was on the show That's What Matters, and
we asked him about this because Joy Pahar, of all
the people on the view, said, you know what, he'd
basically called into question whether Senator Scott knows really what
(01:47):
it's like for black men in America, which was quite
a thing to say. I think everyone picked up on it.
Let's can we just go back team and remind everybody
of his response on this show to what Joy Behar said,
doubt the white.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Ladies dressing up in black face giving him black man
advice probably doesn't ring true in anyone's mind, certainly not
my own. But more importantly, I find it offensive and
disgusting and dangerous for a very different reason. I'm used
to having the less attacked me because of the truth
of my life. This proves their lives. It is literally
(02:23):
the dumbest, most offensive thing I've ever witnessed on TV
to hear these millionaire TV personalities telling me how to
live my life as a black man, but more importantly
suggesting to every child, stay in your place, follow my lead,
(02:45):
for you too will reap the same harvest of Tim
Scott or Clarence Thomas or any other conservative who dares
dares to think for themselves.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So that was last Tuesday. We were off because We're
Moral day. It was last Tuesday. He was on the
show play. I thought that was strong, but this and
we're so we're glad that he got to say it
here on this platform to all of you across the country.
The View, I don't know, maybe the View got called
out so much by their own audience on this one,
or something happened, or they just realized it was it
(03:18):
was an opportunity for ratings. The View invited senators, why
don't they invite Clay and buck on. That would be
a show, that would be a It'd be a show
if Liz Chady came on here to talk to us.
It would be a show if they had us on
the view. I can tell you that. But here is
Senator Tim Scott. Here is Senator Tim Scott sitting down
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on the view. We wanted you to hear this play,
and I agree. This is not a home run. This
is a grand slam moment for him play it.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
One of the things that I think about, and one
of the reasons why I'm on the show, is because
of the comments that were made frankly on the show
that the only way for a young African American kid
to be successful in this country is to be the
exception and not the role. That is a dangerous, offensive discussion.
Seeing message to send to our young people today that
the only way to succeed is by being the exception.
I will tell you that if my life is the exception,
(04:08):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I can't. But it's not.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Actually here's here's fourteen years.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yes. So the fact of the matter is we've had
an African American president, African American vice president, We've had
two African Americans to be Secretaries.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Of the State, and he keeps going. It's phenomenal. We
shared this clip.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
I'm sure it'll be up on clayanbuck dot com if
you want to go listen to it. So this is phenomenal, right,
because the message that Tim Scott is sharing is that
the progress the country has made is massive as it
pertains to race relations and also to opportunity in general.
And one of the craziest things that has happened, and
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this is a big story, is in the wake of
Barack Obama's two terms as president two thousand and eight
twenty twelve, race relations have collapsed in the last decade
or so. A lot of different theories about why that
might be. I'm sure many of you out there listening
have theories. God is Buck.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah. Now, I was gonna say, I don't think race
relations have collapsed. I think the media pretends that race
relations have collapsed. You know what I mean. It's a
difference thing. So that's that's what I'm getting. Yes, that's
a good point.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
And in fact, if you look at the data, the
media has so negatively I think impacted our perceptions of
race relations that many people do believe. Now, for instance,
I believe it's a Gallup poll that came out we
talked about on the show around the year two thousand
something like seventy some odd percent of people thought race
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relations in the country were generally good, and about twenty
some odd percent said race relations were bad. This is
around two thousand, This is twenty three years ago. Now
over half of Americans believe race relations in this country
are bad. I think the media is a big part
of that, and I also think buck My theory here
(06:01):
for what happened was you go back and look at
two thousand and eight Obama. It is America is such
an amazing country that even I, a mixed race kid
from Hawaii, can get elected president.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
That was the message of two thousand and eight Obama. Okay.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
By twoenty twelve, there was more of a racial pitch
to Obama's campaigning. By twenty sixteen, Democrats were all in
on identity politics. So the lesson they took from Barack
Obama's election was the only reason Obama won was because
he was black, and therefore we must have identity politics.
(06:37):
Whether it's Hillary going out there and saying I'm with her, right,
you're a woman, you have to support me because you're
a woman. And then by twenty twenty, Joe Biden, super
old white guy, is arguing, hey, if you're not with
me you ain't black, that the Republicans will put you
back in chains. Kamala Harris's entire choice was based on
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her being a black fan email, and.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
They even made it explicit.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Buck Biden promised to put a black woman on the
Supreme Court, something we've never seen before, based entirely on
identity politics.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I would say that, first of all, it's just, you know,
it's kind of a theme today people who say things
that we all know to be true. It you feel it,
it inspires you it. There's sort of a calm that
comes over you go yes, that's right. And what Senator
Scott said there on the view about the tremendous progress
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that the left effectively denies for Black Americans and on
all Americans toward a meritocracy. In fact, what we have
now is the left openly going against meritocracy.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
The left actually wants there to be a spoil system
based on race, gender, but it's a spoil system against
particularly white males. That's actually the system that the Demo
and Asians, I would note, that's what they want for
affirmative action in college, that's what they want for hiring.
And that is the reality of America today. But put
that aside for a moment. He's saying something that is true.
(08:07):
Do I think that this is going through? This goes
back to our earlier discussion are we going to see
a major change in the black vote in twenty twenty four.
Let's just assume for a second, even Tim Scott was
the nominee or he's just able to have powerful messaging
in the GOP all along, history would tell you no,
that it's not going to happen at all. That said,
(08:29):
there may be people of all you know, of different races,
black voters, white voters, who just from hearing from a
man like Tim Scott about the truth of America today,
the Democrat moral blackmailing, They engage in the sort of
moral demagoguery of if you don't vote Democrat, you're a racist.
(08:51):
That may be less effective. Yeah, So that's the only
way that I could see it from an electoral perspective,
because the more people see this, the more they realize
what are they really talking about? What are they really
saying when they're claiming that this country is fundamentally racist?
And they've expanded the definition of white supremacy to include
anything in society that is unequal. What are they talking about? Basically,
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if their identity politics pitch is even a little bit
less effective, that could have that could have some effect.
I don't see, though, a substantial change in I shouldn
even say I don't see. There's no basis historically for it.
But it might change this time around, the black vote
shifting more toward Republicans. I mean, it'd be great, but
I think it's an intriguing debate. Buck.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
So, first of all, Tim Scott, a lot of what
he says is similar to what Obama said in two
thousand and eight, and the view loved Obama in two
thousand and eight, and they try to call out Tim Scott.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
But here's the here's sort of.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
The existential issue at play. And I don't claim to
know the answer, but everybody out there can think about this.
How do you destroy identity politics?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Right?
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Identity politics is a toxic cancer, in my opinion, in
the American body politic and it is entirely the foundation
of the Democrat Party right now.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
So I actually think that it's a function in part Clay,
I think it has to do with laws. I think
you have to have I think the Supreme Court decision
that's coming in a matter of weeks here, which we
haven't really talked about, will be a substantial step in
the right direction, because what we have now is a
system of and this is from a Supreme Court decision.
I can't remember if it was Alido or Roberts. One
of them said, the racial spoil system that affirmative action
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has created, that has trickled down not just to college admissions,
but also in hiring for corporations across America, in government
grants that are minority specific. You have to eliminate these
things as a matter of law or else. Everything else
we talk about just feels like rhetoric because the system
is in place to perpetuate the identity politics system that
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only benefits Democrats because it is antithetical to republic and
conservative philosophy, which is, we treat every individual as an
individual created in God's image, with the same rights, dignity,
and worth as everybody else. No one's more, no one's less.
The law cannot treat them differently. They don't view it
that way.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yeah, and I think implicit in the Senator Tim Scott
and Nicky Haley candidacy, ironically, given that both are coming
from South Carolina is that they reject identity politics by
exploding it.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
This would be their argument on some level. I don't
know that they would make it.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Explicitly, but it's hard to argue that Republicans are the
party of white supremacy. If again, this would be part
of the premise of their candidacy, if Tim Scott or
Nicky Haley is on that ticket. Now the challenge to
me is that this is the essence of the race.
(11:51):
Do Tim Scott or Nicki Haley, given that they're from
South Carolina, change the electoral calculus. I'm not sure that
the VP does Tim Scott buck were from Arizona or
Georgia or Pennsylvania, I would be like, the dude has
to be the VP nominee, right, Same thing for Nicky
Haley on some level, because they can put you over
(12:11):
the edge and maybe in those states, but you're gonna
win South Carolina by twenty.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
But the most historically, the most consistent voting pattern you
can really find for any if you're looking at race
age demography, you gonna list the black vote for the Democrats. Stretcher,
I mean, does anyone want to guess what percentage of
the black vote went for a Gore in two thousand
versus Bush ninety. Yeah, it is a ninety ten proposition
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and has been for over twenty I mean longer than that.
I'm just going back to two thousand. But we have
not found a way to break that. We have not
found a way to change that dynamic. And I think
it's hard as well, because the Democrats realize that that
just mean that's like them taking Texas and making it blue. Right,
then it's game over. If the if the black.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Over seventy thirty, their their entire campaign, their entire Identity
politics coalition disappear.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Eighty twenty, they're done. But I'm just saying, historically this
has been absolutely impossible, and so to think that it
will change this time around is going against But it's
kind of we got some we should get some of
the vip emails. Then everyone's yelling at me. They're saying,
so what if a primary challenge has never worked in history,
Biden is the worst ever. I'm like, Okay, guys, I'm
(13:25):
just telling you historical examples. I mean, I don't no
one can predict the future. I keep saying this. I
don't think I can. No one can. But if you Look, historically,
it's been fifty years and no incumbent president has ever
lost a primary challenge. It would work.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
He would not lose buck, he would withdraw and blame health.
But if the challenge was moving in a direction where
it could potentially be successful, I think that's what would happen.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
But man, this is uh Tim.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Scott going into the Lions dead Yeah and basically rising
up and dunk on the View.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That clip is going to be everywhere A plus A
plus grand Slam moment for Tim Scott on the View.
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Keeping it real, keeping it honest. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton,
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Speaker 5 (15:46):
About getting Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us as we roll through the
Monday edition of the program, It's got a couple people
who want to weigh in. Buck's got some VIP emails
as well. Brian in Wiscon Brian, what you got for us?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
Hey, guys, you know there's a recent article in the
New York Times up ed about the rise of Latino
white supremacy. I'm married to a Hispanic lady twenty years,
have been married to an Hispanic lady whose parents immigrated
legally fifty years ago. So I've got a lot of
insight to this Spanic community. But they share three common things,
(16:24):
you know, God or faith, family, hard work, all of
which the Democrats despise. But they're seeing this transgender ideology
being propan schools. They hate it. They see the sisters
perpetual indulgence mocking their faith. They see the Democrats mocking
their faith, and they're sick and tired of it. And
I want to speak to every one of them out
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there that can vote. Go out to your family and friends,
your extended family and friends in the Hispanic community, show
them that article, show them what's being done around this
country against their faith, against their kids, and then let
them make the decision and we'll see how it sha.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
So I think it's stuff. Thank you so much, appreciate it.
Jim in Minnesota. Jim, what do you have for us?
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Yeah? At one point Donald Trump said to the black community,
what do you have to lose if you vote for me?
And that's where I think, and he got that blasket
to that. But I think Tim Scott as VP with
the Santas as president, can take that argument to the
black community and show them and point out to them
(17:30):
all the statistics that Democrats have not been their party,
They've only used them for votes. You guys said it yourself.
The Democrats have been in power for how long? And
yet we still have all the same problems. I'm fifty six.
We've had the same problems for the last thirty years,
and it's all because the Democrats not wanting to see
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Black Americans succeed.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Thank you, Thanks for calling on, Jim. We'll get to
more calls and vip emails here in just a moment.
So I'm wondering if what do you guys think about
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(19:42):
most important defectors of the Soviet era, one of the
biggest ones. Walked in, fell into our lap, and there
were other similar cases like this.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I was talking to Clay just a moment ago, saying
that in the world of intelligence, you would have a
whole range of individuals who will walk in and who
will tell you things, who will say things to you,
and mostly it is a lie, right, It's usually not true,
(20:17):
but sometimes it is. Sometimes you're getting really important information.
And that then brings me to what we know here
about the whistleblower claiming that Biden was involved in a
five million dollar criminal bribery scheme. With a foreign national
(20:40):
while he was Vice president. This whistleblower Clay, and this
has come up in the House oversight that you know,
Representative Comer and others are trying to do on what's
going on within the weaponization of the bureaucracies. Why is
it that the FBI seems to always weigh in on
the side of the Democrats. And what we see here
(21:05):
is a five million dollar criminal bribery allegation from somebody
who was a considered a highly credible FBI source stretching
back to the Obama administration. For that to be the case,
this is all just based on the reporting. For that
to be the case, it would have to be that
the FBI had vetted this source, had given them good information.
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This guy had given them good information in the past.
And yet there's no follow up here, nothing happened. No
one seems to be able to explain why they didn't
look into this, Why didn't they take the next steps?
And I bring up the story of the defector because
sometimes you just never know who's going to arrive and
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who's going to say. I have really important stuff for
those who don't know. The Matrocan archives, which I've I'm
looking at copies of it right now in my home,
which are the archives of the KGB. He walked into
an embassy. Initially the defector, He's like, hey, I'm the
KGB archives. You know what They said, get out of here,
crazy man. Yeah, so they basically laughed at him. It
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turned out he went into another embassy and they're like, actually,
we'll take a look at what you got. My point here,
Clay is, if you have a highly credible FBI source
that says that Joe Biden was getting paid five million
dollars in a bribery scheme, given that his son was
making millions of dollars from foreign nationals who are, if
not enemies, will certainly opposition regimes to the United States, China,
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and the corrupt oligarchs of Ukraine. Why nothing more? Why
no follow on? George Papadopolis said something in passing as
a rumor in a bar, and the FBI opened a
full field counterintelligence investigation of Donald Trump based on that.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, And it's why we should, unfortunately have to keep
reminding you Joe Biden and his family are everything that
everyone in the left wing media has spent the past
seven years telling you, eight years telling you that Donald
Trump and his family are so I think this is Unfortunately,
(23:14):
there's a story out of CBS News.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Today that they're back.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
The grand jury that's investigating Trump is back up and
running in Washington, d C. Trump's attorneys are interacting. Buck,
You sent me this message from Trump that just went
out a little bit ago. How is Trump read it? Yeah,
Trump on truth Social about twenty minutes ago. How can
(23:39):
d all caps? How can doj possibly charge me who
did nothing wrong? When no other presidents were charged, When
Joe Biden won't be charged for anything, including the fact
that he has eighteen hundred and fifty boxes, much of
it classified and some dating back to his Senate day,
(24:00):
when even Democrat senators are shocked. Also, President Clinton had
documents and won in court. Crooked Hillary deleted thirty three
thousand emails, many classified, and wasn't even close to being charged.
Only Trump the greatest witch hunt of all time. I
think Trump's one hundred percent right about all that. And look,
(24:21):
it wouldn't shock me, Buck if Trump got indicted this
month or next month. In fact, I expect it to happen,
and I said this when it happened. Mike Pence is
now announcing for President Mike Pence. Having classified documents allows
this Democrat Department of Justice to argue this isn't political. Look,
(24:45):
we didn't charge Mike Pence. He handled classified documents the
right way. And now that is the cover that is
going to help allow them to charge Trump with obstruction
Relating to these classified docum its.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, I mean, I don't even think eily're at a
point where they feel the need they need cover. I
think they just don't care. I think they don't care
it's helpful. I'm not saying it's not.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Helpful, but that will be the New York Times editorial
and the Washington Post will say this is what justice demands.
We'll get the good Republicans like Mike Pence. This is
that's what that's part of the fig leaf that they'll
use to.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Give everyone a sense of how scorched earth they're going.
And I also just want to make it very clear
when we talk about the possibility of a Trump indictment,
I think this is unjust. It is an abuse of
the law, and it is horrific for the country. Not
even just horrific for the twenty twenty four election. I
(25:42):
think this is awful for America and we'll have ramifications
for a long time. So we're just preparing for what
the lunatics are getting ready to do. Trump's lawyer's notes.
This was New York Times of the Weekend. Could be
a key in the Classified Documents inquiry. How many times Clay,
(26:03):
you're a lawyer, like a real actual past the bar registered,
not registered in the US Virgin Islands anymore, but Phil Tennessee, right,
so you're registered in both. I'm a attorney in two
different jurisdictions.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
So you know if you're in a moped accident you
could in the US Islands, they could help you out.
But this this notion, it's multiple times this has happened
now where Trump's attorney has been turned against him or
Trump's attorney's work product. And Clay can speak to this
(26:35):
with with more specificities than I can. But attorney client privilege,
if that is gone, there is no such thing as
having a real robust legal defense if your lawyer's notes
can be seized. Because it's so important this time, you
don't have lawyers. You don't have I mean, they think
(26:56):
about this, how how much would you tell your psychiatrist
if everything that your psychiatrist was writing down could end
up in a court of law. There's a reason we
have protections. There's a reason these things exist. This is
the second time I remember that Michael Cohen, they had
the same thing. And I think, also there's something with
the New York and I have to look into it.
But with the New York and yeah, the documents, right,
(27:18):
some of those are protected documents as well.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
They're so aggressive buck that they're threatening the attorneys who
have represented Trump with being charged with crimes related to
that representation. And this is for people out there who
are familiar with attorney client privilege. The general rule is
what you tell your attorney is privileged and cannot be uncovered.
(27:43):
And let me just give you an easy example. If
you were driving drunk and you went to your attorney
and you said, hey, I had twenty beers I refused
to take the breath elizer because I was super drunk,
that wouldn't be something that would be able to be uncovered.
Your conversation essentially admitted to admitting to a crime would
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not be uncoverable. There is, however, a crime fraud exemption
such that if your attorney is potentially going to be.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Charged with a crime in that representation.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Let me give you an example in that case, Buck,
Let's say that you got pulled over for a DUI
and your client said, Hey, they've impounded my car and
there are twenty cans in the trunk of the car.
Can you get the key, here's the key to my car.
Can you sneak in and get rid of those beer
cans as evidence? That would not be attorney client privileged
(28:41):
because your attorney would then have been engaged in the
crime or the fraud.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Right. This comes away to explain with mob attorneys Corstolliari
for those of you who remember the guy when you're
when you're helping to cover up known crimes and continuing
criminal enterprise, you can't rely on attorney plight.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
So what they're saying, Buck, is they're saying to these
attorneys not they're putting the squeeze on not only Trump
but everyone who is representative and saying, we're charging you too.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And again, if the attorneys, we're going to hide the
murder weapon somewhere, you know, in the swamp or whatever,
I'd say, you know, there are limits to attorney client privilege.
This is about document obstruction, Like how much how much
more absurd can this get before the people behind it
(29:35):
are finally exposed not only to the anger of those
who are Trump voters and supporters like us, but to
a solid majority of the country. I just don't see
how this can continue.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
But and when we come back, the problem also with
this buck is the precedent that it's setting. Trump will
not be the last politician who is running for political office,
to be president or former that'll be charged this. This
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Let me
point this out too, Buck, as we talk about the
ongoing investigations surrounding the Independent Independent Counsel and Donald Trump.
There is an independent Council also investigating Joe Biden. There
should be an independent council investigating Hunter Biden. But that's
an entirely different story.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Have there been any leaks from inside of the Joe
Biden Independent Council investigation?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
No, all they did is I was just gonna say
your thing about the fig leaf, the whole Joe Biden
that is fig leaf. That so they can create this. Oh,
but we were looking at Joe Biden too. They shut
that thing down the day they started it. That was
just for optics.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I will just point out every let's presume that it's true. Okay,
obviously it's the Washington Post, New York Times. They've been
wrong on a lot. But let's presume these leaks are true.
Surrounding the Trump investigation. All of that is a violation
of federal law. You aren't allowed to leak to the
media the step by step results of your investigation. If
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we really had a Department of Justice, we would say,
wait a minute, all of these leaks are designed to
make Trump look bad. And none of them. Again, if
we just had a Department of Justice, Buck, that was
unreliable and they leaked about everything, we know a lot
about the Biden investigation too.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Zero, I mean, we should definitely see if we can
check in with the government employee serving a long prison
sentence for a leaking top secret intercepts of a conversation
with General Flynn to the Washington you know, to the
Russian ambassador to the Washington Post. We should go visit
the guy. Oh wait, they never found that leaker, even
(33:27):
though that is a bright red line violation of classified
information statutes and a huge, a huge ethical breach as
somebody with access to classified So weird they couldn't find
that guy. How many people really had access to that conversation?
Not that many.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
How about the Supreme Court, buck, I mean that leak
legitimately caused an assassination attempt.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
They don't want to leave totally. They don't want to
no idea. Even the Republican or I should say, the
Republican appointed members of the Supreme Court, they don't want.
I think Justice Thomas won to know. I think he
wants to know. I don't think any of the rest
of them want to know because of what it would
do to that institution. That's what I think.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
If I'm breaking Kavanaugh, I want to know because they
tried to come kill me because of it.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, I mean maybe he would want to know too.
Can I just say something real quick because this is
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So I'm way younger without the beard. Yeah, I might
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Speaker 2 (34:32):
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We also should mention this congratulations to our producer Ali,
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Yes, congratulations Ali. It's You're the absolute best and Rush
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author of the anti Communist Manifesto. Because Jesse's such a
good buddy, we're gonna have him ride with us here
in the third hour play to talk about a whole
bunch of things, including his manifesto, which I've got a
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get his take on some of these RFK. Is Biden
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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
All right, everybody, second hour of Clay and Buck kicks
off right this moment. Thanks for being with us from
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wherever you get your podcasts now. We also had Senator
Tim Scott on. I'm sorry, all the weeks kind of
(01:25):
crashed together in my mind. I think it was last
week we had the Senator on? Is that right? Last Monday,
Senator Scott was on the show That's What Matters, and
we asked him about this because Joy Pahar, of all
the people on the view, said, you know what, he'd
basically called into question whether Senator Scott knows really what
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it's like for black men in America, which was quite
a thing to say. I think everyone picked up on it.
Let's can we just go back team and remind everybody
of his response on this show to what Joy Behar said,
doubt the white.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Ladies dressing up in black face giving him black man
advice probably doesn't ring true in anyone's mind, certainly not
my own. But more importantly, I find it offensive and
disgusting and dangerous for a very different reason. I'm used
to having the less attacked me because of the truth
of my life. This proves their lives. It is literally
(02:23):
the dumbest, most offensive thing I've ever witnessed on TV
to hear these millionaire TV personalities telling me how to
live my life as a black man, but more importantly
suggesting to every child, stay in your place, follow my lead,
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for you too will reap the same harvest of Tim
Scott or Clarence Thomas or any other conservative who dares
dares to think for themselves.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So that was last Tuesday. We were off because We're
Moral day. It was last Tuesday. He was on the
show play. I thought that was strong, but this and
we're so we're glad that he got to say it
here on this platform to all of you across the country.
The View, I don't know, maybe the View got called
out so much by their own audience on this one,
or something happened, or they just realized it was it
(03:18):
was an opportunity for ratings. The View invited senators, why
don't they invite Clay and buck on. That would be
a show, that would be a It'd be a show
if Liz Chady came on here to talk to us.
It would be a show if they had us on
the view. I can tell you that. But here is
Senator Tim Scott. Here is Senator Tim Scott sitting down
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on the view. We wanted you to hear this play,
and I agree. This is not a home run. This
is a grand slam moment for him play it.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
One of the things that I think about, and one
of the reasons why I'm on the show, is because
of the comments that were made frankly on the show
that the only way for a young African American kid
to be successful in this country is to be the
exception and not the role. That is a dangerous, offensive discussion.
Seeing message to send to our young people today that
the only way to succeed is by being the exception.
I will tell you that if my life is the exception,
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I can't imagine.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I can't. But it's not.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Actually here's here's fourteen years.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yes. So the fact of the matter is we've had
an African American president, African American vice president, We've had
two African Americans to be Secretaries.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Of the State, and he keeps going. It's phenomenal. We
shared this clip.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
I'm sure it'll be up on clayanbuck dot com if
you want to go listen to it. So this is phenomenal, right,
because the message that Tim Scott is sharing is that
the progress the country has made is massive as it
pertains to race relations and also to opportunity in general.
And one of the craziest things that has happened, and
(04:48):
this is a big story, is in the wake of
Barack Obama's two terms as president two thousand and eight
twenty twelve, race relations have collapsed in the last decade
or so. A lot of different theories about why that
might be. I'm sure many of you out there listening
have theories. God is Buck.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah. Now, I was gonna say, I don't think race
relations have collapsed. I think the media pretends that race
relations have collapsed. You know what I mean. It's a
difference thing. So that's that's what I'm getting. Yes, that's
a good point.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
And in fact, if you look at the data, the
media has so negatively I think impacted our perceptions of
race relations that many people do believe. Now, for instance,
I believe it's a Gallup poll that came out we
talked about on the show around the year two thousand
something like seventy some odd percent of people thought race
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relations in the country were generally good, and about twenty
some odd percent said race relations were bad. This is
around two thousand, This is twenty three years ago. Now
over half of Americans believe race relations in this country
are bad. I think the media is a big part
of that, and I also think buck My theory here
(06:01):
for what happened was you go back and look at
two thousand and eight Obama. It is America is such
an amazing country that even I, a mixed race kid
from Hawaii, can get elected president.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
That was the message of two thousand and eight Obama. Okay.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
By twoenty twelve, there was more of a racial pitch
to Obama's campaigning. By twenty sixteen, Democrats were all in
on identity politics. So the lesson they took from Barack
Obama's election was the only reason Obama won was because
he was black, and therefore we must have identity politics.
(06:37):
Whether it's Hillary going out there and saying I'm with her, right,
you're a woman, you have to support me because you're
a woman. And then by twenty twenty, Joe Biden, super
old white guy, is arguing, hey, if you're not with
me you ain't black, that the Republicans will put you
back in chains. Kamala Harris's entire choice was based on
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her being a black fan email, and.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
They even made it explicit.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Buck Biden promised to put a black woman on the
Supreme Court, something we've never seen before, based entirely on
identity politics.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I would say that, first of all, it's just, you know,
it's kind of a theme today people who say things
that we all know to be true. It you feel it,
it inspires you it. There's sort of a calm that
comes over you go yes, that's right. And what Senator
Scott said there on the view about the tremendous progress
(07:31):
that the left effectively denies for Black Americans and on
all Americans toward a meritocracy. In fact, what we have
now is the left openly going against meritocracy.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
The left actually wants there to be a spoil system
based on race, gender, but it's a spoil system against
particularly white males. That's actually the system that the Demo
and Asians, I would note, that's what they want for
affirmative action in college, that's what they want for hiring.
And that is the reality of America today. But put
that aside for a moment. He's saying something that is true.
(08:07):
Do I think that this is going through? This goes
back to our earlier discussion are we going to see
a major change in the black vote in twenty twenty four.
Let's just assume for a second, even Tim Scott was
the nominee or he's just able to have powerful messaging
in the GOP all along, history would tell you no,
that it's not going to happen at all. That said,
(08:29):
there may be people of all you know, of different races,
black voters, white voters, who just from hearing from a
man like Tim Scott about the truth of America today,
the Democrat moral blackmailing, They engage in the sort of
moral demagoguery of if you don't vote Democrat, you're a racist.
(08:51):
That may be less effective. Yeah, So that's the only
way that I could see it from an electoral perspective,
because the more people see this, the more they realize
what are they really talking about? What are they really
saying when they're claiming that this country is fundamentally racist?
And they've expanded the definition of white supremacy to include
anything in society that is unequal. What are they talking about? Basically,
(09:15):
if their identity politics pitch is even a little bit
less effective, that could have that could have some effect.
I don't see, though, a substantial change in I shouldn
even say I don't see. There's no basis historically for it.
But it might change this time around, the black vote
shifting more toward Republicans. I mean, it'd be great, but
I think it's an intriguing debate. Buck.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
So, first of all, Tim Scott, a lot of what
he says is similar to what Obama said in two
thousand and eight, and the view loved Obama in two
thousand and eight, and they try to call out Tim Scott.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
But here's the here's sort of.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
The existential issue at play. And I don't claim to
know the answer, but everybody out there can think about this.
How do you destroy identity politics?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Right?
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Identity politics is a toxic cancer, in my opinion, in
the American body politic and it is entirely the foundation
of the Democrat Party right now.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
So I actually think that it's a function in part Clay,
I think it has to do with laws. I think
you have to have I think the Supreme Court decision
that's coming in a matter of weeks here, which we
haven't really talked about, will be a substantial step in
the right direction, because what we have now is a
system of and this is from a Supreme Court decision.
I can't remember if it was Alido or Roberts. One
of them said, the racial spoil system that affirmative action
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has created, that has trickled down not just to college admissions,
but also in hiring for corporations across America, in government
grants that are minority specific. You have to eliminate these
things as a matter of law or else. Everything else
we talk about just feels like rhetoric because the system
is in place to perpetuate the identity politics system that
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only benefits Democrats because it is antithetical to republic and
conservative philosophy, which is, we treat every individual as an
individual created in God's image, with the same rights, dignity,
and worth as everybody else. No one's more, no one's less.
The law cannot treat them differently. They don't view it
that way.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yeah, and I think implicit in the Senator Tim Scott
and Nicky Haley candidacy, ironically, given that both are coming
from South Carolina is that they reject identity politics by
exploding it.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
This would be their argument on some level. I don't
know that they would make it.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Explicitly, but it's hard to argue that Republicans are the
party of white supremacy. If again, this would be part
of the premise of their candidacy, if Tim Scott or
Nicky Haley is on that ticket. Now the challenge to
me is that this is the essence of the race.
(11:51):
Do Tim Scott or Nicki Haley, given that they're from
South Carolina, change the electoral calculus. I'm not sure that
the VP does Tim Scott buck were from Arizona or
Georgia or Pennsylvania, I would be like, the dude has
to be the VP nominee, right, Same thing for Nicky
Haley on some level, because they can put you over
(12:11):
the edge and maybe in those states, but you're gonna
win South Carolina by twenty.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
But the most historically, the most consistent voting pattern you
can really find for any if you're looking at race
age demography, you gonna list the black vote for the Democrats. Stretcher,
I mean, does anyone want to guess what percentage of
the black vote went for a Gore in two thousand
versus Bush ninety. Yeah, it is a ninety ten proposition
(12:40):
and has been for over twenty I mean longer than that.
I'm just going back to two thousand. But we have
not found a way to break that. We have not
found a way to change that dynamic. And I think
it's hard as well, because the Democrats realize that that
just mean that's like them taking Texas and making it blue. Right,
then it's game over. If the if the black.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Over seventy thirty, their their entire campaign, their entire Identity
politics coalition disappear.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Eighty twenty, they're done. But I'm just saying, historically this
has been absolutely impossible, and so to think that it
will change this time around is going against But it's
kind of we got some we should get some of
the vip emails. Then everyone's yelling at me. They're saying,
so what if a primary challenge has never worked in history,
Biden is the worst ever. I'm like, Okay, guys, I'm
(13:25):
just telling you historical examples. I mean, I don't no
one can predict the future. I keep saying this. I
don't think I can. No one can. But if you Look, historically,
it's been fifty years and no incumbent president has ever
lost a primary challenge. It would work.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
He would not lose buck, he would withdraw and blame health.
But if the challenge was moving in a direction where
it could potentially be successful, I think that's what would happen.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
But man, this is uh Tim.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Scott going into the Lions dead Yeah and basically rising
up and dunk on the View.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That clip is going to be everywhere A plus A
plus grand Slam moment for Tim Scott on the View.
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who want to weigh in. Buck's got some VIP emails
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Speaker 7 (16:03):
Hey, guys, you know there's a recent article in the
New York Times up ed about the rise of Latino
white supremacy. I'm married to a Hispanic lady twenty years,
have been married to an Hispanic lady whose parents immigrated
legally fifty years ago. So I've got a lot of
insight to this Spanic community. But they share three common things,
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you know, God or faith, family, hard work, all of
which the Democrats despise. But they're seeing this transgender ideology
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their faith, and they're sick and tired of it. And
I want to speak to every one of them out
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So I think it's stuff. Thank you so much, appreciate it.
Jim in Minnesota. Jim, what do you have for us?
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Yeah? At one point Donald Trump said to the black community,
what do you have to lose if you vote for me?
And that's where I think, and he got that blasket
to that. But I think Tim Scott as VP with
the Santas as president, can take that argument to the
black community and show them and point out to them
(17:30):
all the statistics that Democrats have not been their party,
They've only used them for votes. You guys said it yourself.
The Democrats have been in power for how long? And
yet we still have all the same problems. I'm fifty six.
We've had the same problems for the last thirty years,
and it's all because the Democrats not wanting to see
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Black Americans succeed.
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(19:42):
most important defectors of the Soviet era, one of the
biggest ones. Walked in, fell into our lap, and there
were other similar cases like this.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I was talking to Clay just a moment ago, saying
that in the world of intelligence, you would have a
whole range of individuals who will walk in and who
will tell you things, who will say things to you,
and mostly it is a lie, right, It's usually not true,
(20:17):
but sometimes it is. Sometimes you're getting really important information.
And that then brings me to what we know here
about the whistleblower claiming that Biden was involved in a
five million dollar criminal bribery scheme. With a foreign national
(20:40):
while he was Vice president. This whistleblower Clay, and this
has come up in the House oversight that you know,
Representative Comer and others are trying to do on what's
going on within the weaponization of the bureaucracies. Why is
it that the FBI seems to always weigh in on
the side of the Democrats. And what we see here
(21:05):
is a five million dollar criminal bribery allegation from somebody
who was a considered a highly credible FBI source stretching
back to the Obama administration. For that to be the case,
this is all just based on the reporting. For that
to be the case, it would have to be that
the FBI had vetted this source, had given them good information.
(21:28):
This guy had given them good information in the past.
And yet there's no follow up here, nothing happened. No
one seems to be able to explain why they didn't
look into this, Why didn't they take the next steps?
And I bring up the story of the defector because
sometimes you just never know who's going to arrive and
(21:50):
who's going to say. I have really important stuff for
those who don't know. The Matrocan archives, which I've I'm
looking at copies of it right now in my home,
which are the archives of the KGB. He walked into
an embassy. Initially the defector, He's like, hey, I'm the
KGB archives. You know what They said, get out of here,
crazy man. Yeah, so they basically laughed at him. It
(22:11):
turned out he went into another embassy and they're like, actually,
we'll take a look at what you got. My point here,
Clay is, if you have a highly credible FBI source
that says that Joe Biden was getting paid five million
dollars in a bribery scheme, given that his son was
making millions of dollars from foreign nationals who are, if
not enemies, will certainly opposition regimes to the United States, China,
(22:35):
and the corrupt oligarchs of Ukraine. Why nothing more? Why
no follow on? George Papadopolis said something in passing as
a rumor in a bar, and the FBI opened a
full field counterintelligence investigation of Donald Trump based on that.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, And it's why we should, unfortunately have to keep
reminding you Joe Biden and his family are everything that
everyone in the left wing media has spent the past
seven years telling you, eight years telling you that Donald
Trump and his family are so I think this is Unfortunately,
(23:14):
there's a story out of CBS News.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Today that they're back.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
The grand jury that's investigating Trump is back up and
running in Washington, d C. Trump's attorneys are interacting. Buck,
You sent me this message from Trump that just went
out a little bit ago. How is Trump read it? Yeah,
Trump on truth Social about twenty minutes ago. How can
(23:39):
d all caps? How can doj possibly charge me who
did nothing wrong? When no other presidents were charged, When
Joe Biden won't be charged for anything, including the fact
that he has eighteen hundred and fifty boxes, much of
it classified and some dating back to his Senate day,
(24:00):
when even Democrat senators are shocked. Also, President Clinton had
documents and won in court. Crooked Hillary deleted thirty three
thousand emails, many classified, and wasn't even close to being charged.
Only Trump the greatest witch hunt of all time. I
think Trump's one hundred percent right about all that. And look,
(24:21):
it wouldn't shock me, Buck if Trump got indicted this
month or next month. In fact, I expect it to happen,
and I said this when it happened. Mike Pence is
now announcing for President Mike Pence. Having classified documents allows
this Democrat Department of Justice to argue this isn't political. Look,
(24:45):
we didn't charge Mike Pence. He handled classified documents the
right way. And now that is the cover that is
going to help allow them to charge Trump with obstruction
Relating to these classified docum its.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, I mean, I don't even think eily're at a
point where they feel the need they need cover. I
think they just don't care. I think they don't care
it's helpful. I'm not saying it's not.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Helpful, but that will be the New York Times editorial
and the Washington Post will say this is what justice demands.
We'll get the good Republicans like Mike Pence. This is
that's what that's part of the fig leaf that they'll
use to.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Give everyone a sense of how scorched earth they're going.
And I also just want to make it very clear
when we talk about the possibility of a Trump indictment,
I think this is unjust. It is an abuse of
the law, and it is horrific for the country. Not
even just horrific for the twenty twenty four election. I
(25:42):
think this is awful for America and we'll have ramifications
for a long time. So we're just preparing for what
the lunatics are getting ready to do. Trump's lawyer's notes.
This was New York Times of the Weekend. Could be
a key in the Classified Documents inquiry. How many times Clay,
(26:03):
you're a lawyer, like a real actual past the bar registered,
not registered in the US Virgin Islands anymore, but Phil Tennessee, right,
so you're registered in both. I'm a attorney in two
different jurisdictions.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
So you know if you're in a moped accident you
could in the US Islands, they could help you out.
But this this notion, it's multiple times this has happened
now where Trump's attorney has been turned against him or
Trump's attorney's work product. And Clay can speak to this
(26:35):
with with more specificities than I can. But attorney client privilege,
if that is gone, there is no such thing as
having a real robust legal defense if your lawyer's notes
can be seized. Because it's so important this time, you
don't have lawyers. You don't have I mean, they think
(26:56):
about this, how how much would you tell your psychiatrist
if everything that your psychiatrist was writing down could end
up in a court of law. There's a reason we
have protections. There's a reason these things exist. This is
the second time I remember that Michael Cohen, they had
the same thing. And I think, also there's something with
the New York and I have to look into it.
But with the New York and yeah, the documents, right,
(27:18):
some of those are protected documents as well.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
They're so aggressive buck that they're threatening the attorneys who
have represented Trump with being charged with crimes related to
that representation. And this is for people out there who
are familiar with attorney client privilege. The general rule is
what you tell your attorney is privileged and cannot be uncovered.
(27:43):
And let me just give you an easy example. If
you were driving drunk and you went to your attorney
and you said, hey, I had twenty beers I refused
to take the breath elizer because I was super drunk,
that wouldn't be something that would be able to be uncovered.
Your conversation essentially admitted to admitting to a crime would
(28:06):
not be uncoverable. There is, however, a crime fraud exemption
such that if your attorney is potentially going to be.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Charged with a crime in that representation.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Let me give you an example in that case, Buck,
Let's say that you got pulled over for a DUI
and your client said, Hey, they've impounded my car and
there are twenty cans in the trunk of the car.
Can you get the key, here's the key to my car.
Can you sneak in and get rid of those beer
cans as evidence? That would not be attorney client privileged
(28:41):
because your attorney would then have been engaged in the
crime or the fraud.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Right. This comes away to explain with mob attorneys Corstolliari
for those of you who remember the guy when you're
when you're helping to cover up known crimes and continuing
criminal enterprise, you can't rely on attorney plight.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
So what they're saying, Buck, is they're saying to these
attorneys not they're putting the squeeze on not only Trump
but everyone who is representative and saying, we're charging you too.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And again, if the attorneys, we're going to hide the
murder weapon somewhere, you know, in the swamp or whatever,
I'd say, you know, there are limits to attorney client privilege.
This is about document obstruction, Like how much how much
more absurd can this get before the people behind it
(29:35):
are finally exposed not only to the anger of those
who are Trump voters and supporters like us, but to
a solid majority of the country. I just don't see
how this can continue.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
But and when we come back, the problem also with
this buck is the precedent that it's setting. Trump will
not be the last politician who is running for political office,
to be president or former that'll be charged this. This
is a crossing the rubicon moment. I'll talk about that
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Let me
point this out too, Buck, as we talk about the
ongoing investigations surrounding the Independent Independent Counsel and Donald Trump.
There is an independent Council also investigating Joe Biden. There
should be an independent council investigating Hunter Biden. But that's
an entirely different story.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Have there been any leaks from inside of the Joe
Biden Independent Council investigation?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
No, all they did is I was just gonna say
your thing about the fig leaf, the whole Joe Biden
that is fig leaf. That so they can create this. Oh,
but we were looking at Joe Biden too. They shut
that thing down the day they started it. That was
just for optics.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I will just point out every let's presume that it's true. Okay,
obviously it's the Washington Post, New York Times. They've been
wrong on a lot. But let's presume these leaks are true.
Surrounding the Trump investigation. All of that is a violation
of federal law. You aren't allowed to leak to the
media the step by step results of your investigation. If
(32:51):
we really had a Department of Justice, we would say,
wait a minute, all of these leaks are designed to
make Trump look bad. And none of them. Again, if
we just had a Department of Justice, Buck, that was
unreliable and they leaked about everything, we know a lot
about the Biden investigation too.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Zero, I mean, we should definitely see if we can
check in with the government employee serving a long prison
sentence for a leaking top secret intercepts of a conversation
with General Flynn to the Washington you know, to the
Russian ambassador to the Washington Post. We should go visit
the guy. Oh wait, they never found that leaker, even
(33:27):
though that is a bright red line violation of classified
information statutes and a huge, a huge ethical breach as
somebody with access to classified So weird they couldn't find
that guy. How many people really had access to that conversation?
Not that many.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
How about the Supreme Court, buck, I mean that leak
legitimately caused an assassination attempt.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
They don't want to leave totally. They don't want to
no idea. Even the Republican or I should say, the
Republican appointed members of the Supreme Court, they don't want.
I think Justice Thomas won to know. I think he
wants to know. I don't think any of the rest
of them want to know because of what it would
do to that institution. That's what I think.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
If I'm breaking Kavanaugh, I want to know because they
tried to come kill me because of it.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, I mean maybe he would want to know too.
Can I just say something real quick because this is
this is from a VIP listener, Phyllis. Is that Phyllis
who got me to shave my beard. By the way,
pro beard team is back. Get a lot of pro
beard heat here, and I will say people, I feel
like I'm getting carted when I go drinking.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
So I'm way younger without the beard. Yeah, I might
have to get the beard back. All right, well you're
old now, I think you want to look young. See
what he does?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
See he does, folks, see now he's taking the age shots,
all right, VIP listener Phyllis. I was happy to donate
to T two T for Carrie using the link on
the show's website. Every time I hear Julie Kelly report
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for her her team for Tunnel to Towers. The climb
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Speaker 5 (35:15):
We also should mention this congratulations to our producer Ali,
who got married over the weekend. She is out right
now to her fantastic fiance Girard. I don't know if
the pictures are up on Clay and Buck. I don't
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(35:36):
fantastic work. We love Girard too. Congratulations. Ali's been with
this show for over twenty years now got married to
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Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yes, congratulations Ali. It's You're the absolute best and Rush
knew it and we know it, and we can't say
enough about how much we appreciate you and everything you
do for the show. Speaking of people who appreciate themselves
or there or things. Jesse Kelly Jesse Kelly are good
friends who is not lacking in confidence. He is the
(36:16):
author of the anti Communist Manifesto. Because Jesse's such a
good buddy, we're gonna have him ride with us here
in the third hour play to talk about a whole
bunch of things, including his manifesto, which I've got a
copy up here with me, but also I want to
get his take on some of these RFK. Is Biden
going to be the guy VIP email box blowing up?
(36:38):
Can I tell you what it's blowing up with? I've
been looking through this. Apparently everyone's I'm gonna have to
come up with a bet, like I have to grow
a mustache, but the audience has to donate more to
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Biden's a nominee, a lot of our VIPs are saying, Buck,
you're missing it. Biden's not going to be the nominee.
We'll talk to Jesse about it. Great debate. Can't wait
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