June 7, 2023 • 37 mins
Smoky skies over NYC. Buck went to St. Louis, heard all about crime. Charly Arnolt of OutKick talks to New Yorkers about crack pipe vending machines. NYC Mayor Adams tells New Yorkers to stay inside because of smoke, blames climate change. Buck takes calls on wildfires, forest mismanagement, climate change and abortion -- and points out some of the outrageousness and hypocrisy. New plan for double-stacked coach airplanes?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. The third hour of.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Play and Buck Kicked Off kicks off right now. Thanks
for being here with us. Play on vacation for a
few days. We'll be back with us on Monday. Send
you all these best regards. This is Buck. I'm rocking
at solo today and holy smokes, I am getting inundated
(00:27):
with photos from the Big Apple, New York City in
golf in a orange haze because of these Canadian Thanks Canada,
these Canadian wildfires, and the photos are really stark stuff.
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I mean, it looks it looks a little bit like
what you would think the atmosphere on Mars might be
or something if you were to be walking around. Kind
of reminds me of the Great Smag of London of
nineteen fifty two. I'm sure if you're a watcher of
The Crown and somebody who watches that series, you would
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know about the Great Smog of London in.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Nineteen fifty two.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
But it's a bit like that in terms of what
it looks like outside of New York City. So I
hope it just passes quickly. I'm friends and family are
telling me, they're kind of avoiding going outside. One of
our producers, Greg and New York City says that it
even makes your eyes water a little bit when you're outside.
It's not good. So I hope that'll all get cleaned up.
(01:37):
I can assure you that printing presses so to speak,
or getting fired up with articles about how this is
climate change, climate change, So how is it client it's
a fire with wind that has blown the smoke from
the fire south because of a very big fire or
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a series of fires. Well they'll say that you know
why the fire happened because they're the grass where you know,
the not faun of the flora. You know, the plants
and things were dry because oh everything's more dry because
of climate change. Usually the most I think the most
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common cause of forest fires is human, meaning people light
the fire, either on purpose or by accident. But they'll
there'll be articles about the climate change situation and how
that ties into this. In fact, one of my constant frustrations.
I do like to watch the occasional nature program. You know,
(02:39):
I've always since I was a little kid. My mom
could even attest to this. I think I wrote in
the first grade that I want to be an animal conservationist.
When I grew up, I don't even know how to
spell conservationists, but I had learned the term from watching
so many National Geographic specials.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I had all of them on VHS.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I had the National Geographic on jimpin, the National Geographic
on Sharks, the National Geographic some of you know what
I'm talking about. They actually had a pretty great series
back in the day. And this is before you could
use drones and automatic cameras for everything, so the photographers
had to get up close and it was you know,
the footage was a little bit more exciting because now,
I mean, you know, they they basically attach a GoPro
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to a great white shark's head and you know, you
see everything that's going on. But back in the day
photographers had to do a little more. Why am I
telling you about animals? I actually just ran myself so
far off the tracks that I can't even remember animal conservationist.
Oh that I can't win. I did this to myself
last night at Saint Louis too. I went off a
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tangent of a tangent, and I had to ask somebody
the front row, what was my main thesis here? And
they reminded me, and I stayed on track. I was fine,
But you can't watch any any programming National Geographic Style,
you know, Earth and these things on Netflix without getting
a lecture on climate change. At some point the voice
over would be like, but what is really causing the
(04:02):
destruction of the double quested cormorant?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Climate change?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
He said there here, like really really, Yeah, sure, that's
what's causing it. It's always it's always climate change. Yeah,
So they'll be writing about that, I am sure in
the next twenty four hours. But how there's some somehow
tied to it. But yeah, it's it's worse today than
it is yesterday. Everyone thaw me New York Cities and
in rough shape Saint Louis. Speaking of cities, I was
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there last night and it was great to go check
it in and hang out with our affiliate there in
Saint Louis. Appreciate everybody listening. And I did a live
event and it was interesting to me because it was
my first time in city limits. The only time I
had been in the Saint Louis area before. Was actually
(04:52):
an interview Mike Pence as part of the Hill TV
project at the Hill.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Dot Com that I launched a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I was a host there, but I went to interview
Mike Pence and I went right from the airport to
some venue outside the city. So I never really experienced
Saint Luisi Ball, So it was my first time being
in that city, and.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
As you know, I had the experience.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I'm hitting the Midwest tour a little bit more of
these days, I've realized as a New Yorker, I've spent
obviously a ton of time in the Northeast and in
New York and DC. Now I live in Florida, I've
spent a lot of time in.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
The South.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
For one family eye family in the South in Virginia,
but also some of the government work that I did
took me to Virginia and other places military facilities where
I would spend weeks on end. And then then the
West Coast. I spent a lot of time in California.
I haven't spent as much time in the Midwest as
I would like to, so I'm going to be spending
a little more time. And I went to Chicago last
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year for the first time, and I had that experience
where I turned to carry at the Silver Bean and
Millennium Park, and I said, is it really I wonder
if the crime is really as bad as everyone says.
And then in about an hour and a half later,
there was a fatal shooting broad daylight right next to
where we were, right there at the bean. Sixteen year
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old shot and killed another sixteen year old, and I said, okay,
oh yeah, no, the violence here is bad, really bad,
not even limited to certain areas of the city that
need additional attention. So I was at Saint Louis and
I'm excited to I see the arch, and I'm excited
to check out the greatest barbecue and all the different
(06:34):
things that Saint Louis has to offer. And I get
into the I'm going to this station radio station. I
get to the uber and I say to the gentleman
who's driving me, we're chatting up. I'm chatting up a
little bit. We're talking because I always like to get
a little bit of a sense of, you know, what's
going on in the city. So he said, oh, we've
got great baseball here and everything else. And I said, so, well,
(06:56):
what should I know? Where should I go? And he says, well,
first of all, don't go out walking by yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
At night, downtown.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I look at them, I'm like, wait a second, we're
in We're in downtown, Like right now, you're telling me
that you don't think it's you're you're a lifetime Saint
Louis and you're telling me you don't think it's safe
for me to walk around in the downtown of the
city at night. And he's like, I wouldn't do it.
I said, Okay, that's not and then I went I
saw more. I saw a whole bunch of folks. Uh
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last night, you know, hundreds of people came out and
we we got to chat, and they all told me
one after another when I shared this experience with them,
and they said, yeah, yeah, that's unfortunately the reality of
that city now it has become, and it has been
for years.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
It is very dangerous now.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
They mostly, pretty much all of them I think I
met in person, live in the suburbs and it's nice
and it's quiet, it's pretty, and they have land and
you know, they're they're so so for them. The city
isn't a day to day problem for them. But they're
very aware of the fact that Saint Louis has a
very high homicide rate depending on the year, and the
numbers you use, it's usually in the top three for
(08:05):
shootings in the country. I think it might have even
been number one in the last couple of sometime in
the last couple of years. It's usually Saint Louis. I
think New Orleans is usually on that list as well.
Baltimore is always pretty.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
High on that list.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
There are a number of these cities, and I just
remember thinking to myself, here, I'm a visitor to this place.
I'm all excited to be here. I'm excited to spend
some time with with Missourians and talk to them about
what they think is going on in the country and
just have that experience. And to hear that the largest
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city in the state has this problem. To me, it's
just a shouldn't this be an all hands on deck situation?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Right?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Shouldn't this be the primary focus of the city? You know,
city legislature, the mayors off is that everybody.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Because it's a great city.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It's right on the Mississippi River, it's got great food,
it's got great sports.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I'm like that, you know, you fix it. They've got
all these big employers. I learned a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I always find it whenever I go somewhere in the
first time. I approach it like a CIA officer, you know,
area familiarization, right, I approach it but I just want
to know as much as I can about the place
in a short time, so I have some sense of
what's going on. And there's so much cool stuff happening there.
And this is the same thing. When I was in Chicago,
(09:31):
I had the same Now, I've spent time in other
cities that have high levels of violence, and you know
that's unfortunately there's a lot of similarities that you experienced here.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
But I'm in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I think this is Chicago is beautiful. It is a
beautiful city, It is a historic city. It has amazing food,
it has really cool culture.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I'm like this place. I was also there on.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
A seventy five degree day, which everyone tells me is
you know, if you're going to see Chicago, go in
at seventy five degrees.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
But it was amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
But it has too high of a crime rate, and
it is the single biggest anxiety that I think the
residents their deal with day in and day out, and
certainly the same thing in Saint Louis. And I sit
here and I just say, what is it going to
take what threshold has to be crossed? You know, they
had Kim Gardner was a Soros back prosecutor. There she's out,
(10:24):
they said. The new prosecutor, I think is a little
bit better, the new sort of main city prosecutor. But
what does it take for some of these Democrat enclaves
entirely controlled by Democrats. You notice this is it's a
recurring theme, It's a recurring story. You have a major city,
you have a crime rate that is far too high,
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You have far too many people, and disproportionately young black men,
losing their lives to violence on the streets, and the
Democrat Party does what What is the answer to this?
They talk about out racism in the police department and
the need for more community investment. This isn't fixing anything.
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Neither of those things are fixing anything. And really the
first one about the racism in the police department is
just a distraction. It's meant to avoid dealing with the
real issue, which is how are laws being enforced? You know,
they told me that some of the residents again told
me that there are a lot of low level traffic
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infractions that in downtown Saint Louis aren't observed at all,
meaning if someone just flies through a red light, they
won't pull them over. They don't care. Now, I don't
know if this is just their perception or if this
is almost administrative reality now with law enforcement there, I
do know that in Chicago you're not allowed to chase
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somebody on foot really for a whole range of reasons.
So if a felon decides to run, the cops aren't
supposed to give chase. Makes in a whole range of circumstances.
It's not all circumstances.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
But that makes it.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
A lot easier to be a criminal, doesn't it. Oh wait,
there are the cops. Well, I'm going to run and
they're not going to be able to drive after me,
and they're probably not even going to be able to
chase after me on foot because that's not department policy.
It sounds like that can't be true. But these are
the laws that have been and these are the policies
that have been implemented in these places. And I just
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I put this out there because to me, this should
be one of the biggest issues. This should be one
of the biggest drivers for independent votes to go to Republicans.
The only answers Republicans who are going to actually enforce
the law. Everything else is noise. And so I don't
know what that means for Saint Louis and for Baltimore,
and for New Orleans and for these these Democrat single
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party enclaves. But for the rest of the country and
in states where there's still some sanity at the state
legislative level, you have to just you have to enforce
the law, and that means all the laws you have
to I see this trend, this troubling trend of people
who when the police pull them over. You've probably seen
(13:11):
this on Instagram and it's on TikTok all the time now,
and they view it as a game to just be
as antagonistic to the police as possible and refuse to
obey any commands and dare them to do.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Something about it.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
This is a widespread attitude, I'm telling you. You see
it's all over the internet now. You know that the
officer will say, you know, you were speeding, and you're like,
you know, and your registration's expired and I need you
to provide idea They say.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
No, I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
The officer says, come on, you know, I'll pull you
out of the car. No, and maybe they start, you know,
cursing at the officer or whatever. That mentality, that stuff
at the lower level is the foundation of the degradation
of the rest of the society around it through higher crime.
The little stuff turns into the big stuff when everyone
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thinks that they can just well whenever thinks that the
laws aren't going to be enforced, the criminals take advantage
of it. And there's no answer from Democrats on this
at all. Ending mass incarceration was not an answer. It
actually made things worse, ending mass incarceration, which didn't even
really happen. But when I go to these great American cities,
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whether it's San Francisco or New York or Chicago or
Saint Louis or wherever, and I see this playing out,
it is just so frustrating, and I almost wish that
we could say, can we put aside all the rest
of politics for a second here, Libs, Democrats, can we
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sit down and get serious. You have to enforce the law,
and you have to punish criminals who refuse to obey laws,
or else this never gets better, or else people are
going to be telling visitors to otherwise great cities. You
can't walk around downtown at night by yourself. It's not safe.
That's just wrong. That's not where we should be in
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twenty twenty three of the country, anywhere in this country.
And it really it is a question of political ideology.
And I'm just gonna say it. It is the fault
of Democrats that this is where we are now. Straight up,
we all know it. So let's call it out.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
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from the front lines of freedom and truth Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton. You know there are now vending machines
in New York City that are handing out uh narcan
and crack pipe crack type vending machines. This is Charlie
Arnold of OutKick Play sixteen.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I didn't know nothing about this. I just came outside
of this some ear. It makes no sense to me,
So how can we get it removed?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's a great question. I don't know if there's any
hope of that happening anytime soon, But what do you
think it's going to do to the neighborhoods it up
as usual.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Oh, you think it's a good idea. If it is,
we need that much hand the neighborhood. That way we
can happen less people dying. So you think this is
going to hurt or help the neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I think it's going to hurt the neighborhood. Honestly.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
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so they'll feel more comfortable knowing that they have the
fennel strips and stuff like that, more comfortable to use it.
So why is this here?
Speaker 5 (17:25):
I don't see the purpose of it to be on
this residential block.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
No one on this block needs it.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I really feel for you know that last resident at
the end, you need to tell you know, she wants
her neighborhood to be clean and safe and nice. Ever
wants their neighborhood to be clean and safe and nice
wherever they are, wherever they live, whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Their politics are.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
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that it's going to make it better. It's just honestly,
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Eric Adams of New York City told New Yorkers to
stay inside because of.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
The smoke plume.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And if you're wondering, does he oh, yes, I knew
what would happen?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
He is blaming climate change quite twenty four.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
We recommend vulnerable New Yorkers stay inside and on New
Yorkers should limit outdoor activity to the greatest extent possible.
If you are an older or have heart or breathing
problems on older adult, you should remain inside. And if
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you must go outdoors, wear high quality masks such as
AK ninety five. This may be the first time we've
experienced something like this on this magnitude. Let's be clear,
it's not the last. Climate change is accelerated these conditions.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Climate change has accelerated these conditions.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
See a polar bear that's having a tough time getting
from one ice flow to another.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Climate change.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
You have some fishermen somewhere that are saying they're not
catching as many snow crab.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
As they usually do.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Climate change, wildfires in California, wildfires in Canada. Things get hotter,
things get colder, things get wetter, things get drier. It
is all climate change. Isn't that amazing? People need to think,
they need to think more Gary in northern Arizona former
(20:48):
firefighter Gary, what do you have for.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Us, Yes, sir, to hear it. The left always point
to climate change. Just it's ludicrous. These people are insane.
To be one of them, you have to be brainless
for the most part.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
When brainwashed.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yeah, well, both of those I believe, sir. But when
we still had logging in Arizona, our forests were probably
never more healthy than since that time, they put a
more torum on logging because a lot of people on
the left, a lot of the cry babies. They said
we were over harvesting the forest. We had to leave
the forest alone. And you got to remember, as part
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of the logging operation there was a cleanup. Half of
it or more was provided by the logging outfit. They
also provided money back to the fort service to clean
up whatever remainder of the slash that they didn't clean up.
As a result, you had a very clean forest floor,
which reduced the incidents of a wildfire. Since we did
the more taorum, not we, but since they caused the moratorium,
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they put all logging basically out of business in Arizona,
and we've never had a higher incidence of wildfires. Probably
in the history of Arizona, ordered history of the United States.
They don't use logic, they don't use pack they don't
use common sense when they make it.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
You know, Gary, I, you know, since you have professional
experience with this, I appreciate that perspective. I think similar
situations played out in California.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Am I right on that one.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
California just decided to stop doing not only any logging,
but forestry management really, and then they get these big
forest fires and then they say it's climate change.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Well, see that's how Yellowstone blew up back in the eighties.
It was about the mid to late eighties. They decided
somebody with their college degree higher up in the Department
of the Interior, I believe it was, we're going to
go back to a wilderness area in Yellowstone, and we're
not going to hit any fires that we would normally
hit in the past. We're going to let it go
back to wilderness. Well, that would have been fine if
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you weren't putting them out for one hundred years. Mother
nature does take care of herself. She will put a
fire down every so often to up the forest. The
undercover or the underbrush was a lot lower when it
was natural, but when they said no more putting fires out,
and then you just have this build up. It's kind
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of like if you had a single sheet of paper
and you said it on fire, versus balling that paper
up and chilling up your room with balled up bloods
of paper.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
The density, the density of the of the underbrush. Thank
you for calling in, Gary, I know I'm actually looking
this up too as I'm talking to you. Yeah, California
has done the same same thing completely no surprise, mismanaged
its forests and leads to so think about this. The
state of California does a poor job managing its forests,
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which makes them more likely to have extreme forest fire
situations because of the overgrowth of the underbrush and the
density of you know, dead wood and plants and things
like that that grow in, and they won't allow clearing,
logging things like that. Then the fire comes through, it
burns hotter and faster than it would otherwise, and they
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blame climate change, and then they want to institute policies
to deal with the climate change that do nothing other
than make people poorer, more frustrated, make energy costs go up.
It's really uh, it is a sickness. It does climate
change in particular as a religion. But maybe it's not
a religion. Maybe it's just more an anxiety disorder, mental
(24:33):
illness of sorts. Jeff in Texas. More a lot of
people with thoughts on the fire and how it's affecting
New York. Jeff, what's up, hey, Buck?
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Yeah, man, you're a history boss. So go back to
nineteen ten and the fire called the Big Burn where
three million acres burned in two days in the Pacific northwest.
Briosevelt got involved in that, and that was the budding
period of the Fourth Star was last. I recall there
were hardly any automobiles at that time, very little electrical generation,
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you know, using fossil fuels or anything. And you know,
the climate folks want to hijack this recent burn, which
is an absolute pipsqueak compared to that monster one hundred
and thirteen years ago. And you know, maybe they need
to get their history books out. Heck, google it for
all I care. But heads up, this been going on forever.
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In your previous caller from Arizona, nail it. It's logging
and forestry practices that are causing these smaller, yet more
intense outbreaks, all in the name of quote climate change nonsense.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
The total nonsense. But remember the people the correlation. Thank
you so much for calling in the correlation on the
issue of climate change and people who mask alone in
cars to save them from COVID.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Right, relation is one.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Meaning someone who would mask up against COVID because Fauci
said so, because science. They would also tell you they
believe in climate change. And if you don't believe in
climate change, they would shout science in your face because
this is an elevation of a pseudo scientific consensus as
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a means of establishing greater control over the rest of society.
Right they, the scientists say, therefore we must do. It's
a huge gateway to authoritarianism, which is what we saw
all throughout COVID. Sean in Rochester, New York, where I
remember I went to Nick Tajos and had a garbage
plate many a year ago.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
What's going on, Sean?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. And yeah, we
have about the only thing we're famous for that in
a homicide rate these days.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Oh wait, hold on a second, Rochester's got a high
homicide rate too. I didn't even I didn't realize that.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Oh, dear guy, Yes, sir, we are setting records. I've
been a police officer now for about twenty years in
the Rochester area, and I can tell you that, you know,
back in two thousand and two when I started graduated academy,
and then when I was on patrol, where I've spent
you know, my entire career, with the exception of a
few years, and are a narcotic unit playing clothes. I've
watched a degradation in front of my own eyes and
(27:20):
it's remarkable and all I can say. You know, when
I when I went back to school mid career, I
got my degree in political science and I traveled overseas
to Israel, spent some time over there training you know,
jiu jitsu and some firearms stuff that's kind of been
my neck. I went into the West Bank, into Ramala,
and I got a Palestinian cab driver who drove me
(27:41):
around and I'll never forget what he told me. He said,
the problem with you Americans is you're not willing to
make sacrifices because you want to see immediate results, whereas
US Arabs will sacrifice today for results that will never
be arived for and With that said, you know I've
studied Eurie bez Manoff is a famous KGB defector.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Oh, I know, you're sure, yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Oh, he's one of my favorites, and he talks about
ideological subversion and the way he articulates it is genius
because it's exactly what I've seen happen in my patrol career.
And my point is is that what frustrates me is
the Republican Party needs to understand and need to back
off this hardline, hard stance abortion position. Now. I hate
(28:25):
saying that. The Paints mean to say that, but we're
never going to win moderate Democrats, We're never going to
win Centrists if we take this stance. What we have
to do as a Republican Party, if we want to
win twenty twenty four, is start focusing on the reintroduction
of moral standards in the schools. That addresses the later
issues that morph into why are kids having abortions to
(28:45):
such high rates? So we need to let go of
that understand that we can't legislate our way to change
people's hearts and minds. The position we're in now is
exactly what Yuri talked about, and we've put ourselves in
that position because we conceded, made micro concessions to the
last over the past forty sixty sixty years, you know,
(29:05):
at the university and school level. So we have to
win back our schools through you know, town school board elections,
becoming involved in talent politics and at the grassroots level
take it back. We cannot. We have to back off
this hardline stance or we're gonna lose, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Thank you, thank you for calling in Seawan. We got
we're gonna we gotta leave it there for right now.
But I appreciate it, and thank you for doing what
you can to try to keep your community safe. I
remember now, I think I did read something on how
Rochester is having a really really rough go of it
with the homicide, right, which is what I mean. Some
of these cities you don't even you would never even
think about it, and then they just have this intractable
(29:41):
problem of high violent crime per capita. And you look
and there's always a Democrat in charge. There's always a
Democrat mayor, Democrat city council, democrat appointed police commissioner, or
just an open Democrat as a police commissioner, whatever prosecutor,
Soorro's back probably the same thing everywhere. It is a
(30:02):
crime plague that this country is dealing with, and we
should treat it like the emergency that it is. But
that would make Democrats have to admit that they've been
wrong all this time and that what they've done has
made it worse. And they won't do that because they
want power more than they want your safety.
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(32:09):
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Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's it's pretty crazy. America's biggest city right now enveloped
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(32:53):
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some of the mentality, not the tactics and not the
same extreme level, but some of the mentality of North
Korean dictatorship she is seeing from the authoritarian left in
this country. So I think that's quite a thing. To
(33:15):
pay attention to worth us all spending a moment to
think about what that would look like. So yeah, those
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I did see something today that made me think a
(33:49):
little bit. There's a new plan out for double stacked
coach airfare or airplanes. So you think about it like
it's almost like a bunk bed, but an airplane seat.
This is a new design, so one seat is elevated
(34:09):
up and the other seat behind it fits in beneath it.
It's really like bunk beds the best way I can
describe it. And this would at least give you more legram.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I was today.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Crunched into a seat flying back on a five am
flight from Saint Louis, and I like to think of
myself as a patient man. But I'm not that large,
but my knees are obviously touching the seat right in
front of me. No one wants to be on a
five am flight. So the mood on the five am flight,
(34:42):
you know, is not one of sheer joy. It's not
like you're on the five pm Friday flight from New
York to the Bahamas or from LA to Cabo or something.
I mean, you know, this is I guess Miami is
pretty nice, to be fair, so but.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
You get that.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
What I'm saying, five am is early is the point.
Five am is early. And I don't know how to
deal with this some people. Maybe I'm just being a
little get off my lawn here. Some people are very
aggressive with your seat back and this drives me completely insane.
So I managed to get onto a flight in my
little coach seat and sit there, you know, incognito, doing
(35:23):
my thing, and not use the chair in front of
me like a springboard. Every time I want to get up,
you know, there's the springboard. People they grab the back
of the chair like the headrest that's your head rest,
and they pull on it and they launch themselves up.
It's like you have armrests. You know, you could use
(35:44):
the arm rest. You don't have to use the the
head rest that my head is on as I'm trying
to sleep as the springboard.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
You're not in the Olympics, sir.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
So yeah, maybe maybe double decker seating is the answer,
because let's just say, in an era where there weren't
video cameras everywhere, I might have had to ask the
person behind me to stop treating the seat I was
sitting in like a punching bag, you know, constantly fiddling
(36:16):
with it, pushing it, putting his knees into it.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Right, you know, this is we gotta get better. We
gotta get.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Better coach seating on airplanes. This is just a thing
that we're gonna have to fight for in this country.
I don't know how we do it, but maybe it's
the bunk bed situation, and maybe we could get them
bunk beds like the you know, race car bunk beds
back in the day. You know, we get a little
stylish with it. That's just my thought. That's my thought. Anyway.
I so appreciate all of you hanging out with me.
Thank you for being here. On Clay and Buck, I'm
(36:44):
in solo tomorrow, we'll have a lot.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
To talk about. I have a feeling there could be
some really big breaking news this week.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
What am I thinking of, Well, you're gonna have to
tune into the show and then you'll find out
Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. The third hour of.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Play and Buck Kicked Off kicks off right now. Thanks
for being here with us. Play on vacation for a
few days. We'll be back with us on Monday. Send
you all these best regards. This is Buck. I'm rocking
at solo today and holy smokes, I am getting inundated
(00:27):
with photos from the Big Apple, New York City in
golf in a orange haze because of these Canadian Thanks Canada,
these Canadian wildfires, and the photos are really stark stuff.
(00:48):
I mean, it looks it looks a little bit like
what you would think the atmosphere on Mars might be
or something if you were to be walking around. Kind
of reminds me of the Great Smag of London of
nineteen fifty two. I'm sure if you're a watcher of
The Crown and somebody who watches that series, you would
(01:09):
know about the Great Smog of London in.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Nineteen fifty two.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
But it's a bit like that in terms of what
it looks like outside of New York City. So I
hope it just passes quickly. I'm friends and family are
telling me, they're kind of avoiding going outside. One of
our producers, Greg and New York City says that it
even makes your eyes water a little bit when you're outside.
It's not good. So I hope that'll all get cleaned up.
(01:37):
I can assure you that printing presses so to speak,
or getting fired up with articles about how this is
climate change, climate change, So how is it client it's
a fire with wind that has blown the smoke from
the fire south because of a very big fire or
(01:58):
a series of fires. Well they'll say that you know
why the fire happened because they're the grass where you know,
the not faun of the flora. You know, the plants
and things were dry because oh everything's more dry because
of climate change. Usually the most I think the most
(02:18):
common cause of forest fires is human, meaning people light
the fire, either on purpose or by accident. But they'll
there'll be articles about the climate change situation and how
that ties into this. In fact, one of my constant frustrations.
I do like to watch the occasional nature program. You know,
(02:39):
I've always since I was a little kid. My mom
could even attest to this. I think I wrote in
the first grade that I want to be an animal conservationist.
When I grew up, I don't even know how to
spell conservationists, but I had learned the term from watching
so many National Geographic specials.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I had all of them on VHS.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I had the National Geographic on jimpin, the National Geographic
on Sharks, the National Geographic some of you know what
I'm talking about. They actually had a pretty great series
back in the day. And this is before you could
use drones and automatic cameras for everything, so the photographers
had to get up close and it was you know,
the footage was a little bit more exciting because now,
I mean, you know, they they basically attach a GoPro
(03:19):
to a great white shark's head and you know, you
see everything that's going on. But back in the day
photographers had to do a little more. Why am I
telling you about animals? I actually just ran myself so
far off the tracks that I can't even remember animal conservationist.
Oh that I can't win. I did this to myself
last night at Saint Louis too. I went off a
(03:40):
tangent of a tangent, and I had to ask somebody
the front row, what was my main thesis here? And
they reminded me, and I stayed on track. I was fine,
But you can't watch any any programming National Geographic Style,
you know, Earth and these things on Netflix without getting
a lecture on climate change. At some point the voice
over would be like, but what is really causing the
(04:02):
destruction of the double quested cormorant?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Climate change?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
He said there here, like really really, Yeah, sure, that's
what's causing it. It's always it's always climate change. Yeah,
So they'll be writing about that, I am sure in
the next twenty four hours. But how there's some somehow
tied to it. But yeah, it's it's worse today than
it is yesterday. Everyone thaw me New York Cities and
in rough shape Saint Louis. Speaking of cities, I was
(04:31):
there last night and it was great to go check
it in and hang out with our affiliate there in
Saint Louis. Appreciate everybody listening. And I did a live
event and it was interesting to me because it was
my first time in city limits. The only time I
had been in the Saint Louis area before. Was actually
(04:52):
an interview Mike Pence as part of the Hill TV
project at the Hill.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Dot Com that I launched a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I was a host there, but I went to interview
Mike Pence and I went right from the airport to
some venue outside the city. So I never really experienced
Saint Luisi Ball, So it was my first time being
in that city, and.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
As you know, I had the experience.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I'm hitting the Midwest tour a little bit more of
these days, I've realized as a New Yorker, I've spent
obviously a ton of time in the Northeast and in
New York and DC. Now I live in Florida, I've
spent a lot of time in.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
The South.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
For one family eye family in the South in Virginia,
but also some of the government work that I did
took me to Virginia and other places military facilities where
I would spend weeks on end. And then then the
West Coast. I spent a lot of time in California.
I haven't spent as much time in the Midwest as
I would like to, so I'm going to be spending
a little more time. And I went to Chicago last
(05:53):
year for the first time, and I had that experience
where I turned to carry at the Silver Bean and
Millennium Park, and I said, is it really I wonder
if the crime is really as bad as everyone says.
And then in about an hour and a half later,
there was a fatal shooting broad daylight right next to
where we were, right there at the bean. Sixteen year
(06:14):
old shot and killed another sixteen year old, and I said, okay,
oh yeah, no, the violence here is bad, really bad,
not even limited to certain areas of the city that
need additional attention. So I was at Saint Louis and
I'm excited to I see the arch, and I'm excited
to check out the greatest barbecue and all the different
(06:34):
things that Saint Louis has to offer. And I get
into the I'm going to this station radio station. I
get to the uber and I say to the gentleman
who's driving me, we're chatting up. I'm chatting up a
little bit. We're talking because I always like to get
a little bit of a sense of, you know, what's
going on in the city. So he said, oh, we've
got great baseball here and everything else. And I said, so, well,
(06:56):
what should I know? Where should I go? And he says, well,
first of all, don't go out walking by yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
At night, downtown.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I look at them, I'm like, wait a second, we're
in We're in downtown, Like right now, you're telling me
that you don't think it's you're you're a lifetime Saint
Louis and you're telling me you don't think it's safe
for me to walk around in the downtown of the
city at night. And he's like, I wouldn't do it.
I said, Okay, that's not and then I went I
saw more. I saw a whole bunch of folks. Uh
(07:26):
last night, you know, hundreds of people came out and
we we got to chat, and they all told me
one after another when I shared this experience with them,
and they said, yeah, yeah, that's unfortunately the reality of
that city now it has become, and it has been
for years.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
It is very dangerous now.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
They mostly, pretty much all of them I think I
met in person, live in the suburbs and it's nice
and it's quiet, it's pretty, and they have land and
you know, they're they're so so for them. The city
isn't a day to day problem for them. But they're
very aware of the fact that Saint Louis has a
very high homicide rate depending on the year, and the
numbers you use, it's usually in the top three for
(08:05):
shootings in the country. I think it might have even
been number one in the last couple of sometime in
the last couple of years. It's usually Saint Louis. I
think New Orleans is usually on that list as well.
Baltimore is always pretty.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
High on that list.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
There are a number of these cities, and I just
remember thinking to myself, here, I'm a visitor to this place.
I'm all excited to be here. I'm excited to spend
some time with with Missourians and talk to them about
what they think is going on in the country and
just have that experience. And to hear that the largest
(08:43):
city in the state has this problem. To me, it's
just a shouldn't this be an all hands on deck situation?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Right?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Shouldn't this be the primary focus of the city? You know,
city legislature, the mayors off is that everybody.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Because it's a great city.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It's right on the Mississippi River, it's got great food,
it's got great sports.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I'm like that, you know, you fix it. They've got
all these big employers. I learned a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I always find it whenever I go somewhere in the
first time. I approach it like a CIA officer, you know,
area familiarization, right, I approach it but I just want
to know as much as I can about the place
in a short time, so I have some sense of
what's going on. And there's so much cool stuff happening there.
And this is the same thing. When I was in Chicago,
(09:31):
I had the same Now, I've spent time in other
cities that have high levels of violence, and you know
that's unfortunately there's a lot of similarities that you experienced here.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
But I'm in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I think this is Chicago is beautiful. It is a
beautiful city, It is a historic city. It has amazing food,
it has really cool culture.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I'm like this place. I was also there on.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
A seventy five degree day, which everyone tells me is
you know, if you're going to see Chicago, go in
at seventy five degrees.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
But it was amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
But it has too high of a crime rate, and
it is the single biggest anxiety that I think the
residents their deal with day in and day out, and
certainly the same thing in Saint Louis. And I sit
here and I just say, what is it going to
take what threshold has to be crossed? You know, they
had Kim Gardner was a Soros back prosecutor. There she's out,
(10:24):
they said. The new prosecutor, I think is a little
bit better, the new sort of main city prosecutor. But
what does it take for some of these Democrat enclaves
entirely controlled by Democrats. You notice this is it's a
recurring theme, It's a recurring story. You have a major city,
you have a crime rate that is far too high,
(10:45):
You have far too many people, and disproportionately young black men,
losing their lives to violence on the streets, and the
Democrat Party does what What is the answer to this?
They talk about out racism in the police department and
the need for more community investment. This isn't fixing anything.
(11:07):
Neither of those things are fixing anything. And really the
first one about the racism in the police department is
just a distraction. It's meant to avoid dealing with the
real issue, which is how are laws being enforced? You know,
they told me that some of the residents again told
me that there are a lot of low level traffic
(11:29):
infractions that in downtown Saint Louis aren't observed at all,
meaning if someone just flies through a red light, they
won't pull them over. They don't care. Now, I don't
know if this is just their perception or if this
is almost administrative reality now with law enforcement there, I
do know that in Chicago you're not allowed to chase
(11:50):
somebody on foot really for a whole range of reasons.
So if a felon decides to run, the cops aren't
supposed to give chase. Makes in a whole range of circumstances.
It's not all circumstances.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
But that makes it.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
A lot easier to be a criminal, doesn't it. Oh wait,
there are the cops. Well, I'm going to run and
they're not going to be able to drive after me,
and they're probably not even going to be able to
chase after me on foot because that's not department policy.
It sounds like that can't be true. But these are
the laws that have been and these are the policies
that have been implemented in these places. And I just
(12:25):
I put this out there because to me, this should
be one of the biggest issues. This should be one
of the biggest drivers for independent votes to go to Republicans.
The only answers Republicans who are going to actually enforce
the law. Everything else is noise. And so I don't
know what that means for Saint Louis and for Baltimore,
and for New Orleans and for these these Democrat single
(12:51):
party enclaves. But for the rest of the country and
in states where there's still some sanity at the state
legislative level, you have to just you have to enforce
the law, and that means all the laws you have
to I see this trend, this troubling trend of people
who when the police pull them over. You've probably seen
(13:11):
this on Instagram and it's on TikTok all the time now,
and they view it as a game to just be
as antagonistic to the police as possible and refuse to
obey any commands and dare them to do.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Something about it.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
This is a widespread attitude, I'm telling you. You see
it's all over the internet now. You know that the
officer will say, you know, you were speeding, and you're like,
you know, and your registration's expired and I need you
to provide idea They say.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
No, I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
The officer says, come on, you know, I'll pull you
out of the car. No, and maybe they start, you know,
cursing at the officer or whatever. That mentality, that stuff
at the lower level is the foundation of the degradation
of the rest of the society around it through higher crime.
The little stuff turns into the big stuff when everyone
(14:01):
thinks that they can just well whenever thinks that the
laws aren't going to be enforced, the criminals take advantage
of it. And there's no answer from Democrats on this
at all. Ending mass incarceration was not an answer. It
actually made things worse, ending mass incarceration, which didn't even
really happen. But when I go to these great American cities,
(14:22):
whether it's San Francisco or New York or Chicago or
Saint Louis or wherever, and I see this playing out,
it is just so frustrating, and I almost wish that
we could say, can we put aside all the rest
of politics for a second here, Libs, Democrats, can we
(14:44):
sit down and get serious. You have to enforce the law,
and you have to punish criminals who refuse to obey laws,
or else this never gets better, or else people are
going to be telling visitors to otherwise great cities. You
can't walk around downtown at night by yourself. It's not safe.
That's just wrong. That's not where we should be in
(15:05):
twenty twenty three of the country, anywhere in this country.
And it really it is a question of political ideology.
And I'm just gonna say it. It is the fault
of Democrats that this is where we are now. Straight up,
we all know it. So let's call it out.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Eight hundred two A two two eight A two. If
you have any thoughts.
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in New York City that are handing out uh narcan
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Speaker 1 (16:52):
I didn't know nothing about this. I just came outside
of this some ear. It makes no sense to me,
So how can we get it removed?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's a great question. I don't know if there's any
hope of that happening anytime soon, But what do you
think it's going to do to the neighborhoods it up
as usual.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Oh, you think it's a good idea. If it is,
we need that much hand the neighborhood. That way we
can happen less people dying. So you think this is
going to hurt or help the neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I think it's going to hurt the neighborhood. Honestly.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I think it's gonna hurt because it's supplying the stuff
so they'll feel more comfortable knowing that they have the
fennel strips and stuff like that, more comfortable to use it.
So why is this here?
Speaker 5 (17:25):
I don't see the purpose of it to be on
this residential block.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
No one on this block needs it.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
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the end, you need to tell you know, she wants
her neighborhood to be clean and safe and nice. Ever
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wherever they are, wherever they live, whatever.
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Eric Adams of New York City told New Yorkers to
stay inside because of.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
The smoke plume.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And if you're wondering, does he oh, yes, I knew
what would happen?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
He is blaming climate change quite twenty four.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
We recommend vulnerable New Yorkers stay inside and on New
Yorkers should limit outdoor activity to the greatest extent possible.
If you are an older or have heart or breathing
problems on older adult, you should remain inside. And if
(19:42):
you must go outdoors, wear high quality masks such as
AK ninety five. This may be the first time we've
experienced something like this on this magnitude. Let's be clear,
it's not the last. Climate change is accelerated these conditions.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Climate change has accelerated these conditions.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
See a polar bear that's having a tough time getting
from one ice flow to another.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Climate change.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
You have some fishermen somewhere that are saying they're not
catching as many snow crab.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
As they usually do.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Climate change, wildfires in California, wildfires in Canada. Things get hotter,
things get colder, things get wetter, things get drier. It
is all climate change. Isn't that amazing? People need to think,
they need to think more Gary in northern Arizona former
(20:48):
firefighter Gary, what do you have for.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Us, Yes, sir, to hear it. The left always point
to climate change. Just it's ludicrous. These people are insane.
To be one of them, you have to be brainless
for the most part.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
When brainwashed.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yeah, well, both of those I believe, sir. But when
we still had logging in Arizona, our forests were probably
never more healthy than since that time, they put a
more torum on logging because a lot of people on
the left, a lot of the cry babies. They said
we were over harvesting the forest. We had to leave
the forest alone. And you got to remember, as part
(21:28):
of the logging operation there was a cleanup. Half of
it or more was provided by the logging outfit. They
also provided money back to the fort service to clean
up whatever remainder of the slash that they didn't clean up.
As a result, you had a very clean forest floor,
which reduced the incidents of a wildfire. Since we did
the more taorum, not we, but since they caused the moratorium,
(21:51):
they put all logging basically out of business in Arizona,
and we've never had a higher incidence of wildfires. Probably
in the history of Arizona, ordered history of the United States.
They don't use logic, they don't use pack they don't
use common sense when they make it.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
You know, Gary, I, you know, since you have professional
experience with this, I appreciate that perspective. I think similar
situations played out in California.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Am I right on that one.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
California just decided to stop doing not only any logging,
but forestry management really, and then they get these big
forest fires and then they say it's climate change.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Well, see that's how Yellowstone blew up back in the eighties.
It was about the mid to late eighties. They decided
somebody with their college degree higher up in the Department
of the Interior, I believe it was, we're going to
go back to a wilderness area in Yellowstone, and we're
not going to hit any fires that we would normally
hit in the past. We're going to let it go
back to wilderness. Well, that would have been fine if
(22:52):
you weren't putting them out for one hundred years. Mother
nature does take care of herself. She will put a
fire down every so often to up the forest. The
undercover or the underbrush was a lot lower when it
was natural, but when they said no more putting fires out,
and then you just have this build up. It's kind
(23:13):
of like if you had a single sheet of paper
and you said it on fire, versus balling that paper
up and chilling up your room with balled up bloods
of paper.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
The density, the density of the of the underbrush. Thank
you for calling in, Gary, I know I'm actually looking
this up too as I'm talking to you. Yeah, California
has done the same same thing completely no surprise, mismanaged
its forests and leads to so think about this. The
state of California does a poor job managing its forests,
(23:48):
which makes them more likely to have extreme forest fire
situations because of the overgrowth of the underbrush and the
density of you know, dead wood and plants and things
like that that grow in, and they won't allow clearing,
logging things like that. Then the fire comes through, it
burns hotter and faster than it would otherwise, and they
(24:11):
blame climate change, and then they want to institute policies
to deal with the climate change that do nothing other
than make people poorer, more frustrated, make energy costs go up.
It's really uh, it is a sickness. It does climate
change in particular as a religion. But maybe it's not
a religion. Maybe it's just more an anxiety disorder, mental
(24:33):
illness of sorts. Jeff in Texas. More a lot of
people with thoughts on the fire and how it's affecting
New York. Jeff, what's up, hey, Buck?
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Yeah, man, you're a history boss. So go back to
nineteen ten and the fire called the Big Burn where
three million acres burned in two days in the Pacific northwest.
Briosevelt got involved in that, and that was the budding
period of the Fourth Star was last. I recall there
were hardly any automobiles at that time, very little electrical generation,
(25:05):
you know, using fossil fuels or anything. And you know,
the climate folks want to hijack this recent burn, which
is an absolute pipsqueak compared to that monster one hundred
and thirteen years ago. And you know, maybe they need
to get their history books out. Heck, google it for
all I care. But heads up, this been going on forever.
(25:25):
In your previous caller from Arizona, nail it. It's logging
and forestry practices that are causing these smaller, yet more
intense outbreaks, all in the name of quote climate change nonsense.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
The total nonsense. But remember the people the correlation. Thank
you so much for calling in the correlation on the
issue of climate change and people who mask alone in
cars to save them from COVID.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Right, relation is one.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Meaning someone who would mask up against COVID because Fauci
said so, because science. They would also tell you they
believe in climate change. And if you don't believe in
climate change, they would shout science in your face because
this is an elevation of a pseudo scientific consensus as
(26:24):
a means of establishing greater control over the rest of society.
Right they, the scientists say, therefore we must do. It's
a huge gateway to authoritarianism, which is what we saw
all throughout COVID. Sean in Rochester, New York, where I
remember I went to Nick Tajos and had a garbage
plate many a year ago.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
What's going on, Sean?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. And yeah, we
have about the only thing we're famous for that in
a homicide rate these days.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Oh wait, hold on a second, Rochester's got a high
homicide rate too. I didn't even I didn't realize that.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Oh, dear guy, Yes, sir, we are setting records. I've
been a police officer now for about twenty years in
the Rochester area, and I can tell you that, you know,
back in two thousand and two when I started graduated academy,
and then when I was on patrol, where I've spent
you know, my entire career, with the exception of a
few years, and are a narcotic unit playing clothes. I've
watched a degradation in front of my own eyes and
(27:20):
it's remarkable and all I can say. You know, when
I when I went back to school mid career, I
got my degree in political science and I traveled overseas
to Israel, spent some time over there training you know,
jiu jitsu and some firearms stuff that's kind of been
my neck. I went into the West Bank, into Ramala,
and I got a Palestinian cab driver who drove me
(27:41):
around and I'll never forget what he told me. He said,
the problem with you Americans is you're not willing to
make sacrifices because you want to see immediate results, whereas
US Arabs will sacrifice today for results that will never
be arived for and With that said, you know I've
studied Eurie bez Manoff is a famous KGB defector.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Oh, I know, you're sure, yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Oh, he's one of my favorites, and he talks about
ideological subversion and the way he articulates it is genius
because it's exactly what I've seen happen in my patrol career.
And my point is is that what frustrates me is
the Republican Party needs to understand and need to back
off this hardline, hard stance abortion position. Now. I hate
(28:25):
saying that. The Paints mean to say that, but we're
never going to win moderate Democrats, We're never going to
win Centrists if we take this stance. What we have
to do as a Republican Party, if we want to
win twenty twenty four, is start focusing on the reintroduction
of moral standards in the schools. That addresses the later
issues that morph into why are kids having abortions to
(28:45):
such high rates? So we need to let go of
that understand that we can't legislate our way to change
people's hearts and minds. The position we're in now is
exactly what Yuri talked about, and we've put ourselves in
that position because we conceded, made micro concessions to the
last over the past forty sixty sixty years, you know,
(29:05):
at the university and school level. So we have to
win back our schools through you know, town school board elections,
becoming involved in talent politics and at the grassroots level
take it back. We cannot. We have to back off
this hardline stance or we're gonna lose, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Thank you, thank you for calling in Seawan. We got
we're gonna we gotta leave it there for right now.
But I appreciate it, and thank you for doing what
you can to try to keep your community safe. I
remember now, I think I did read something on how
Rochester is having a really really rough go of it
with the homicide, right, which is what I mean. Some
of these cities you don't even you would never even
think about it, and then they just have this intractable
(29:41):
problem of high violent crime per capita. And you look
and there's always a Democrat in charge. There's always a
Democrat mayor, Democrat city council, democrat appointed police commissioner, or
just an open Democrat as a police commissioner, whatever prosecutor,
Soorro's back probably the same thing everywhere. It is a
(30:02):
crime plague that this country is dealing with, and we
should treat it like the emergency that it is. But
that would make Democrats have to admit that they've been
wrong all this time and that what they've done has
made it worse. And they won't do that because they
want power more than they want your safety.
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My New York friends and family, as you know most
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lives in New York City. It's about half and half
now they're telling me it's people aren't going outside because
of this this smoke plume or whatever it is they're
(32:09):
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at Yon Me park on talking about North Korea. She's
a North Korean defector coming out to warn everybody. Yes,
some of the mentality, not the tactics and not the
same extreme level, but some of the mentality of North
Korean dictatorship she is seeing from the authoritarian left in
this country. So I think that's quite a thing. To
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I did see something today that made me think a
(33:49):
little bit. There's a new plan out for double stacked
coach airfare or airplanes. So you think about it like
it's almost like a bunk bed, but an airplane seat.
This is a new design, so one seat is elevated
(34:09):
up and the other seat behind it fits in beneath it.
It's really like bunk beds the best way I can
describe it. And this would at least give you more legram.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I was today.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Crunched into a seat flying back on a five am
flight from Saint Louis, and I like to think of
myself as a patient man. But I'm not that large,
but my knees are obviously touching the seat right in
front of me. No one wants to be on a
five am flight. So the mood on the five am flight,
(34:42):
you know, is not one of sheer joy. It's not
like you're on the five pm Friday flight from New
York to the Bahamas or from LA to Cabo or something.
I mean, you know, this is I guess Miami is
pretty nice, to be fair, so but.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
You get that.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
What I'm saying, five am is early is the point.
Five am is early. And I don't know how to
deal with this some people. Maybe I'm just being a
little get off my lawn here. Some people are very
aggressive with your seat back and this drives me completely insane.
So I managed to get onto a flight in my
little coach seat and sit there, you know, incognito, doing
(35:23):
my thing, and not use the chair in front of
me like a springboard. Every time I want to get up,
you know, there's the springboard. People they grab the back
of the chair like the headrest that's your head rest,
and they pull on it and they launch themselves up.
It's like you have armrests. You know, you could use
(35:44):
the arm rest. You don't have to use the the
head rest that my head is on as I'm trying
to sleep as the springboard.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
You're not in the Olympics, sir.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
So yeah, maybe maybe double decker seating is the answer,
because let's just say, in an era where there weren't
video cameras everywhere, I might have had to ask the
person behind me to stop treating the seat I was
sitting in like a punching bag, you know, constantly fiddling
(36:16):
with it, pushing it, putting his knees into it.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Right, you know, this is we gotta get better. We
gotta get.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Better coach seating on airplanes. This is just a thing
that we're gonna have to fight for in this country.
I don't know how we do it, but maybe it's
the bunk bed situation, and maybe we could get them
bunk beds like the you know, race car bunk beds
back in the day. You know, we get a little
stylish with it. That's just my thought. That's my thought. Anyway.
I so appreciate all of you hanging out with me.
Thank you for being here. On Clay and Buck, I'm
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Speaker 1 (36:46):
To talk about. I have a feeling there could be
some really big breaking news this week.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
What am I thinking of, Well, you're gonna have to
tune into the show and then you'll find out
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