December 1, 2023 • 36 mins
The value of the DeSantis-Newsom debate. How low can Biden's numbers go? What would 1000 shares of Berkshire Hathaway stock be worth today? Texas AG Ken Paxton files suit vs. Pfizer. Co-founders of The Daily Wire, Jeremy Boreing and Ben Shapiro, join Clay and Buck to discuss their movie, "Lady Ballers," featuring an appearance by Clay. Chris Cuomo says he's open to voting for Trump, then denies it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Third hour Clay and Buck kicks off right now. I
want to take a bunch of your calls this hour,
so make sure you get the number eight hundred two
eighty two two eight eight two written down or stuck
in your head so you can give us a ring.
We want to hear from you about what you thought
of last night debate between Ron DeSantis and Gavin Mustom.
(00:27):
I thought it was certainly a worthwhile watch, interesting and
credit to Sean Hannity, our friend, for pulling it all together.
And I think that if nothing else, my my feeling
on this one is that there needs to be more
of a more of a move toward these kinds of debates,
(00:50):
meaning that people who have large platforms and who you know,
if somebody, I mean, you know, I could put this
out there in Clay, if a hope at MSNBC wanted
to have a one v one debate with you or me,
we would jump at the opportunity as long as it
was in a reasonable format, et cetera. I think that
(01:12):
this is something that is missing, increasingly missing from our
political discourse. Honestly, everything now is echo chambers. Everything is
people preaching to the choir. You know, I used to you, Clay,
You've worked at a bunch of different media entities in
the past. I used to go over to CNN and
just have the whole audience basically boom me and I
would argue with libs over there, and they stopped having
(01:33):
me sometimes because I was a little too effective. And
that's just what ends up happening. If you're good enough
that there people you know aren't able to smack you
around on TV, even with the help of the anchor.
They don't want to. You're supposed to be the wrestling
term exactly, yes, Jo, You're supposed to be a jobb
er if you're a conservative assassin too earlier called in
(01:56):
when we were.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Talking about the WWE, and you're supposed to go in
and basically to get your ass kicked, and if you
don't get your ass kicked, if you occasionally win, it's
like a Washington generals never beat the Harlem glubtrotters. That
can't happen because it throws the entire ecosystem into an uproar.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, I mean they put me up. I remember once
on on during BLM. They put me up against Van
Jones to debate BLM stuff on I think it was
Wolf Splitzer show. Never had me back on that show,
and I was paid by CE and nither. Never had
me back on that show ever again, because it's just
he didn't have a strong argument and I did, and
(02:32):
I'd gone to these rallies. They wanted to tell me
they're not anti COP. I'm like, they're screaming pigs in
a back in a blanket fry Am like Bacon. I mean,
they're very much anti COP at these realies. But anyway,
I want to see more debate. I want to see
more people out there and having exchange of ideas because
I think that the the left wing echo chambers have
become unfortunately far too influential because they have enough reach
(02:57):
and no pushback that they can have the This is
how we get to the trends issue where it stands
now with trans sports and you know, with trends individuals
where men competing against women in sports, all this kind
of stuff. We will talk to on that issue. Jeremy
Boring and Ben Shapiro at the bottom of this hour
about their new movie coming out. You know, we again
we We view this platform as a place where everybody
(03:22):
who's on the team, we want to support what they're
doing for the country and when they have the right
ideas and they're doing cool stuff like making this movie.
So we're going to bring that to you. One thing, Clay,
that that struck me. Here, I'm going to you know,
and I'm not trying to negotiate against myself with our
with our big bet. But did you see that Biden's
approval has plummeted eight points in one month. Yeah, so
(03:46):
here's my problem. I don't see a plan b I
still think it's going to be Biden, but I wonder
how low the numbers can really go. And I wonder
what this means for the down ballot and for people.
You know, we forget this, I think very quickly. But
you look at California and New York. Yeah, they're blue states,
but there were some important congressional pickups in those states
(04:08):
in the last election. I have a feeling that Biden
could end up being not just a drag, you know,
or rather not just weak in the general election, but
a drag in the down ballot races too.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
One of the most challenging things in life take it
outside of politics, is getting people to change their mind
after they've already made up their mind. Do you know
why companies spend so much money trying to advertise their products,
primarily to the young, because they haven't decided what they
(04:41):
like yet. Once you decide whether you like or dislike something,
getting you to acknowledge that you were wrong is very
difficult and Buck. That's what I keep coming back to
on these Biden numbers. I don't think there's any argument.
One of the things that stoo out last night to me,
the Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis debate was Gavin Newsom's
(05:04):
willingness to lie, but also his willingness to uh clearly
say things that he didn't believe. I'll give you two
examples associated with Joe Biden. Sean Hannity asked what letter
grade would you give Joe Biden, and Gavin Newsom said
an A. There is nobody on the planet hardly.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I don't think Joe Biden would give himself an act.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
He shouldn't, right, I don't think Joe Biden would give
himself an A. If she's anything like most people's wife,
she probably judges her husband.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
If you asked Biden to give himself a letter grade
for his presidency. He'd give you a seven out of ten. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Look, if if Gavin Newsom had said B plus, I
would have said, Okay, that's lenient grading.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
But to give it a that was like a dad joke.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
He didn't even even I didn't even I didn't even
notice the dad joke. I was so focused on trying
to analyze what grade Gavin news could have given that
would not have been a that would not have been
a lie. He also said something else, Buck, He said
he thought Joe Biden was one hundred percent. Both of
those things are soundly rejected by the American public right now,
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seventy five percent of It's almost impossible to get seventy
five percent of Americans to agree on anything. Seventy five
percent of Americans now agree that Joe Biden doesn't have
the mental or physical fitness to be president of the
United States. How do you convince them they're wrong? Once
people make up their mind, getting them to change their mind.
This is what we've been talking about. Compared to twenty
twenty bucks. I just don't think there's that many people
(06:35):
out there. I'd love to be wrong who voted for
Joe Biden in twenty twenty that are going to flip
and vote for Donald Trump in twenty twenty four. Why
because people don't like to admit they were wrong. I
start off this show by saying, look, I got something wrong.
I thought Gavin Newsom was going to be likable. I
thought he was going to be intelligent. I thought he
was going to be a zealous advocate and be somewhat
(06:56):
effective in trying to defend his policy.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And I was wrong. He wasn't. Let me let me
push you on this a little bit, because you had
thought and have thought, and I think you and Viveke
even agreed on this a couple of days ago. Yeah,
that Gavin Newsom will be the Democrat nominee put aside.
Whether ye are you now less confident that if Biden
were pushed aside it would be Newsom? Or do you
(07:18):
still think if Biden were if Biden, Harris, we can
put them together. Yes, we're pushed aside, it would be
Newsom or maybe somebody else.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
My theory has been for a little while now. I
think they'll try to get Michelle Obama.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
So you're now your top pick for them for the
plan is Michellekeelle Obama.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Because I don't think they can get past the sexist
and racist aspects of Kamala without also finding at least
someone who's a minority or a woman. And Michelle Obama
is a far more likable black woman than Kamala Harris's,
so I think they could shunt her aside for Michelle
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Obama in a way that they could not for a
white guy in Gavin Newsome.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Now, to be.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Fair, Joe Biden is the oldest whitest guy who has
ever been elected president in the history of our country.
So the Democrat Party, which claims to care about diversity
and inclusion and all that jazz, was very comfortable including
an old black man James Clyburn and putting an old
white guy in front because they thought that was necessary
to beat Trump. My thought, though, buck is Biden's usefulness
(08:26):
no longer extends to his viability as an election candidate. Now,
I think this was devastating to Gavin news.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I mean, now that you and Viveke are on the
same team, like I forget about a stake, like I
want I want to ride on Viveke Force one. Yeah,
the miss Steakhouse. I've got a little bit of money.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Vivek has billions of dollars, so I might even now
say Theveke. In the event we end up wrong, I
might say, Viveke has to fund my aspect of this
bet too, because he's got plenty of resources to be
able to do.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah. I should have been like Theveke. If I'm right,
want like a Rolls Royce Phantom or something. You know,
I should have gotten a little bit saucy with my
with my demands here because I think I.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I well, then, but what if you're wrong and you
had to go buy a Maserati or a Rolls Royce
Phantom for a billionaire?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
That would be tough to explain to carry.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
You're like, hey, honey, I know that we've been saving
up for the next house. I know that we've been,
you know, putting away a lot of money. But I
lost a bet live on the radio, and I have
to buy a billionaire a luxury vehicle.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I think that would probably be a tough argument.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
To roll in and and and and argue in favor
of any woman out there.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
But but I am. I am so profoundly confident in
my position. But look, let me tell you, I mean
one of the big problems Biden's gonna have is that
I think people are thinking there's like soft landing out
there and that you know, Rach, you're just gonna start
coming down and all that. Look at prices, I mean,
look at what's going on with the economy. I think
that we could start to see some real, uh, some
(09:51):
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(10:12):
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(10:33):
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(10:54):
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sweatshirt to the church and she goes, no, no, no, I
think I'm gonna sell that one. We'll give away this sweatshirt.
I'm like, you're gonna sell it. I'm gonna get in
trouble for even mentioning this.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
My wife will share shirts for like five dollars on
yard sales, and I don't people have to be driving
by my house being like Clay Travis must have lost
all his jobs. His wife is selling a shirt for
five dollars. My wife, to be fair, still tries to
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(11:33):
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(11:55):
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Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We've been
talking about a lot of different stories, the reaction to
the debate between Ron DeSantis and Gavin Newsom, George Santo's
being kicked out of Congress, whether we think it's a
good idea or a bad idea. We had Kirk Cameron
and Studio. We're gonna be joined by Jeremy Boring and
Ben Shapiro of The Daily Wire here shortly, but buck
(12:36):
three different deaths this week of iconic American legends all
over the age of ninety Charlie Munger, who was Warren
Buffett's partner at Berkshire Hathaway, Henry Kissing, Henry Kissinger, and
Sondra Day O'Connor, and I saw this on.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Berkshire Hathaway. I got a question for you.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Let's pretend we could go back in time, Biff from
back to the future, to style and take advantage of
not sports gambling like Biff did, but take advantage of
stock prices. If you and I could go back to
nineteen sixty four and we could put down a thousand
dollars in Berkshire Hathaway stock, what would that stock one
(13:27):
thousand dollars of Berkshire Hathaway nineteen sixty four be worth today?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
What would be your guess? I mean, that's that math
is hard to do offhand. One thousand dollars. We're talking
now seventy years ago, is that seventy or like you said,
nineteen sixty sixty years ago basically almost exactly sixty years ago. Sorry,
sixty years sixty years ago. Uh, it's probably worth I
(13:54):
don't know. I mean, this is crazy, man. Ten million dollars.
That's exactly right, is it really? That's exactly right. I'm amazing.
I didn't know. That is incredible.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But I want to yay capitalism for all of you
out there, first of all, incredible guests, by Buck.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
If you, in nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Had merely put a thousand dollars into Berkshire Hathaway Stock,
you had just left that thousand dollars in there, you
had not touched it, you would now have ten million
dollars that I saw that stat in the Wall Street
Journal and I could not believe the orders of magnitude
(14:34):
of destruction of the S and P. Five hundred and
what those guys were capable of to have managed to
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(14:57):
If you put ten thousand in, you'd have one hundred million.
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(16:04):
got another stock for you, Peiser Stock.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I don't know that we've mentioned.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Ken Paxton, the Attorney General of the state of Texas,
has filed a lawsuit alleging fraud against Peiser. Peiser Stockbuck
has just hit a decade low just about because this
company stock is collapsing. We talked about earlier. Only four
percent of people kids six months to eighteen years old
(16:30):
are getting the COVID shot. Only ten percent of those
eighteen and up. This right now, the market is telling
you could be a body blow to Peiser going forward.
Stock's lost over one hundred billion in market cap just
in the last two years.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I just wonder how it will play out in the courts, because,
as we know, I think it might be dismissed out
of hand because these companies were we remember what happened.
These companies were told you have immunity and you're good
to go. And the federal government and this part of
Operation Warp Speed under Trump federal government said, we'll give
you full immunity. Just make these make these shots as
fast as you can. You know, we know it's a
(17:08):
different process. We know, but we're in an emergency situation
and so at some level too. I mean, you can't
have the government double crossing the private sector, right. You
can't have the government say you got to make these,
you got to make these. I don't even care what
the risks are, the side effects, just make them as
fast as you can and then have the government say, actually,
we made a we made a mistake. So now we're
gonna come as much as I think the big you know,
(17:30):
the shot makers or the rather the pharmaceutical companies were
somewhat dishonest with all this. I mean, do you see
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Like, yeah, no, I know. I think the immunity. I
think the challenge will be and I'm curious. I give
credit to Ken Paxton for filing this law stuit. I
think other state attorney generals in Red State should do
the same. The challenge will be, does the process of
discovery uncover that Pfizer and Maderna knew at the time
that they were saying these COVID shots were one hundred
(17:59):
percent effect that they weren't actually true, because oftentimes fraud
will eliminate the ability to argue that you have no liability.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
They're going to say that these are the numbers that
we had on the timeline we were forced to be
on because the government wanted them when they wanted them.
I just don't as much as I I'm not trying
to be some big pharma apologist here, but I just
don't see how their legal liability is going to play
out in a way that they get hit on this.
But maybe maybe I'm wrong, But then again, I did
guess the ten million dollars berksure have that.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I'm not gonna lie. That was pretty impressive. Thousand dollars
would have turned into ten million. We come back, Buck,
you'll like this question, and we're going to talk with
Jeremy and Ben Shapiro about this new movie. Jeremy raised
a really good question. I want you to think about it.
During the break all of you can think about it
as well. When was the last great comedy movie. When
was the last time you went to the theaters and said,
(18:50):
my goodness, this was really funny.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
The leftist killed comedy? Think about it? What was the
last great.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Lady Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
All right, welcome back to Clan Buck. We are joined
now by the co founders of The Daily Wire. We've
got Jeremy Boring with us and Ben Shapiro. They're gonna
talk to us about Lady Ballers. Gentlemen, thank you for
being with.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Us, and I think we're gonna get hooked up with
them here shortly. Buck, I'm in this movie and Jeremy
asked a really good question at the premiere on Wednesday night,
and I asked this question as we went to break
and I think they're with us now. Jeremy, you pointed
out that basically great comedy had been killed by sort
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of this left wing ideology, and the reason you made
Lady Ballers was because there was a challenge that on
some level there had to be new comedy, but it
had to come from the right as opposed to the left.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I think that it was Joe Rogan who said a
little over fourteen months ago that if there was going
to be another great comedy, it would have to come
from some unlike The Daily Wire. And I took that
to mean, well, there isn't really anyone else like the
Daily Wire. So I guess he means us. You know,
I think that comedy automatically when the country was being
run in a more traditional way, that meant that comedy
was a great tool of the left. As soon as
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the left achieved premacy and hegem hegemony in terms of
their politics and cultural influence, they decided that comedy was
no longer going to be allowed because, of course, the
thing that you want to make fun of now is them,
and they're just not going to stand for it. They
know far better than we the power of mockery.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Hey Ben, thanks for being here with us. How do
you pull a project like this together? You know, we
had your colleague Matt Walshawan for the What Is a Woman? Documentary,
which we thought we thought was great. You know that
one though felt like, yeah, it's it's within the kind
of editorial line that I would expect from Matt and
other folks a Daily Wire. But to write something scripted
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like this, how did you you know come? How did
you come together with this? Who'd you bring into it?
And just I want to know about the production process
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Well, you definitely need to ask Jeremy about that because
My main job in this was to say yes to
the project, and that was pretty much it. Then I
showed up for a scene with somebody else who's online.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I got much another than acting chops like Clay. I'll
pass this one back to Jeremy then go ahead.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, you know, I think at Ben and I from
the very beginning, long before we've been found at the
Daily Wire, we understood that it's not enough to critique culture.
If we want long term success, we have to create culture.
We grew up both under the sort of tutelage of
Andrew Brybaright well as I grow up, I mean politically
grew up under the tutelage of Andrew Breitbart, who understood
the power of culture, the fact that politics only operates
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in a window created by culture. And so this was
always on our mind, and we've surrounded ourselves over time
with people who had what we think our skills that
would be really useful in this regard, Dallas Sonier, our
producing partner over at Bonfire Legend being one of them,
but also our talent. You know, I thought we were
going to get big actors to be in this from
the beginning. We got turned down by just about every
actor we went out to, and I'm glad because it
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really became kind of a family project. Every Daily Wire
host is represented on screening. You get to see a
side of them that you haven't seen before and the really,
I think high level of talent that these guys have.
Just as one example, our sports hosts Jay Crane, Blaine Crane,
and David Cohne play three of the truly lead roles
in the film, and they are sensationally funny. And these
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guys are as good in this film as any comic
actor in Hollywood would have been if this had been
produced by a far more established production entity than we are.
And I'm excited to have gotten to do that with them,
and I think the audience would be excited to see
that side of them.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I told everybody that I have a small cameo. It's
alongside of Ben Shapiro, who's with us right now, Ben Shapiro,
Jeremy Boring. I found the movie and I went to
go watch it on Wednesday. I'm going to show it
to my thirteen year old, my fifteen year old. I
think there are a lot of kids that will enjoy
it as well. And I know you have really young
kids been. But what I found actually amazing was it
(22:57):
was very funny and very well done and filled with
satire and ridicule of the current economic I mean current
environment we find ourselves in. But also it's very heartwarming
at the end. Did that surprise you when you watched
it based on what you knew and thought that it
would look like it?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Definitely did. I Mean, first, let me just say, my
kids are nine, seven, three and six months. None of
them will be watching this film. That is totally inappropriate
for them. I would recommend that unless their kids are
above the age of like fifteen, sixteen, I really don't
recommend that you have like younger kids watching it.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
It's alrighted.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I mean, there's some jokes in there that are definitely
on the risque side, but you know, that's just again
because we're not Disney, We're not interested in cultivating our kids.
But the one thing that is certainly true is that
the element of the film that is the truest of
all is the heart of the film. There's an enormous
amount of heart in this film. There's enormous amount of
morality in this film, and some of the speeches that
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are made over the course of the film take on
topics that no other studio would take on. And we're
not talking about the trans issue. We're talking about things
like divorce. I mean, there's a speed I played a
clip on my show today. There's a speech that's given
by one of the characters where she goes through why
divorce absolutely destroys children. That is something that not only
will Hollywood never produce, Hollywood provides precisely the opposite image.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
I mean, they've been pushing divorce as a solution.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
To marriage since you know, the nineteen sixties at a minimum,
And so the fact that we produce something like that,
I think that we're proud of that.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
I think also obviously.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
At the end, no doubt, and and what I would
say is by you. By the way, you can check
it out at dailywire dot com. It's going to debut tonight. Jeremy,
what are you most proud of about this movie now
that it's complete, Now that you've debuted it Wednesday night
in Nashville, great crowd came out to watch it. Now
that you got a little bit of time for reflection,
(24:45):
What is the most satisfying aspect of having made this
film to you?
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah, Well, as coach, Rob might say, I'm proud of
the team. Really, everybody stepped up and punched away above
their weight class to make this happen. You know, our
Daily Wire staff was deeply involved in it. Many of
them are. Our Daily Wire hosts are just tremendous in it.
My kid brother wrote all the music for it, and
I know that that sets a low expectation. I think
the music is truly one of the best aspets of it.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, let me cut you off there for a sec.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Because my wife went to the movie with me and
halfway through it, she said, this soundtrack is incredible.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
It's all original.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
She said, a lot of times you can tell in
movies when it's not done at a high level because
of the music. She was blown away by how good
that was, even in particular, had nothing to do with
the on screen acting or story.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
You deserved a lot of credit for that.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Your brother, Yeah, he's a monster talent and he came
through in a major way. It's these great like anthemy
eighties rock montage sports tunes.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
They're just killer.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
So I'm proud of the effort and I'm proud of
the accomplishment. And you know, you brought up the heart.
I will say this was not my first time.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
To see the movie.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Obviously, I've seen it, you know, dozens and dozens and
dozens of times throughout the process of editing it and
coloring it and sound designing and all the mix and
everything that you do. It also wasn't my first time
to see it with an audience. I saw it with
a small audience in Budapest not long ago. But what
really struck me watching it with the crowd on Wednesday
night is how well the heartfelt scenes play. And when
we were there on set shooting the ending, I won't
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give too much away, it's.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
So full of life and heart.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
We were all just laughing, almost in tears because we
had a thousand extras up in the stands in this
big sports arena, and the thing that you see at
the end of the movie was actually happening right in
front of us. We were just capturing it with cameras
as it occurred. And I think it's a truly beautiful moment.
And that's what I love about the movie. I think
that it does hold up. I think it's very funny.
(26:36):
I think it does a great job of handling these
issues that it was sort of tailor made to handle.
But I also just think it's a good story and
a good film and people will walk away really satisfied
with it.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Lady Ballers is the movie, Guys Daily wire dot Com
go check it out. Ben Ben, I just had I
had to ask you this, to what degree do you
think you can gauge the success of this film by
how much it drives the left absolutely insane and that
your movie is actually the death of the Republic in
the beginning of fascism in their eyes.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Well, I mean, we always gauge ourselves by that standard.
I mean, whatever we can do to tweak people, apparently
we will do. And I think that the left is
going to feel good in tweaks by this thing, and
you're going to see that in the response.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
I mean, I think it's going to manifest in some
cleverer ways.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
I think you're going to see them hit us with
bad reviews in the same way that they they've tried
to hit our other movies with bad reviews. I think
you're going to see them try to try to ignore it.
That's another tactic that they've used in the past. But
the reality is that I think that they're going to
be wildly tick this was ever made, and they.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Should be well, where can people go to see it?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
So they should go to Daily wire dot com slash subscribe.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
You do.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
You have to be a subscriber in order to see
the film.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Tonight eight pm Eastern is when it mairs, and you're
going to get fifty percent of field that is available
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Speaker 2 (27:48):
Last question we can hear you guys.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, Jeremy, you guys are working on a monster. My
understanding is episodic story right now. That's why you reference
the fact that you've been in your What is that
story and when it will it be out? And what
story are you attempting to tell there?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, we have a bunch of new things that will
be coming out in fact tonight in front of Lady
Ballers who are going to premiere the first teaser trailer
for our first scripted animated comedy with Adam Sandler. It's
his great character Bertram, and this show brings it to
life with a cast of characters that includes Roseanne Barr
and Patrick Warburton and many other great actors. And then yeah,
midway through the year next year, we'll release our first
(28:29):
sort of fantasy epic called The Pen Dragon Cycle, based
on the novels by the same name by Stephen Lawhead.
I read these novels when I was a teenager. They
were incredibly instrumental in forming my worldview, both both politically
and in terms of my faith, and it's always been
a dream of mine to bring them to life on screen.
I know firsthand the power that the story can have
(28:49):
on helping to shape young minds, and I want other
people to be able to experience that. I've been in
Europe more of this year than i have in America,
and it's been the hardest thing I've ever endeavored to do.
But I'm really proud of the work that we've done,
and I in fact head back in two hours. I'll
be back in Budapest when Lady Ballers goes live tonight,
which is probably good. I won't be able to check
in moment by moment by moment see how we're doing.
(29:10):
I'll just be somewhere over the Atlantic sleeping.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
But then very cool, Well, convey guys, congratulations, you know,
at the end of the year.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
To wrap that up.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
For for years we've been talking about just in the
conservative movement more generally, Hey, we have to actually make
our own culture. We can't. We can't just sit around
and argue about the tax rate and constitutional law. And
congrats to you guys for doing another film and we
look forward to seeing more and we hope people will
check out Lady Ballers. Thanks for making the time for
us today.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Thank you, thanks for being in the film with us Clinton.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, thank you guys again. It is really cool. I
think you guys will like it. Ladyballer's Daily wire dot com.
And we've been talking with Jeremy Boring and Ben Shapiro
who are doing work great work there. And you know what,
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Speaker 1 (31:51):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show, final segment
of the week. As always, go subscribe to the podcast.
Make sure you don't miss a moment. You can search
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will be able to take us with you wherever you
may go. We are now into December, we can honestly
say next month voting begins on the twenty twenty four
presidential election in Iowa. And as a part of that voting,
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maybe some people you might not expect open to voting
for Donald Trump. That was the story that came out
when Chris Cuomo, formerly of CNN, went on with our
good friend Patrick Bett David whose podcast and YouTube channel
we have been on and said, based on this answer,
that he might be open to voting for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Here's cut too.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
We survived a Trump administration, would we survive another one?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Yes, I don't think there's any greater risk to America
with him than with Biden. And for people who are
now going to attack me and say, what are you
talking about? Trump is like this crazy manager. Oh look,
nobody was trying to kill us when Trump was president
in a way that they're not now. If anything, there's
more hostility, and you can have reasons for that any
(33:03):
way you want. I'm just saying existentially, I'm not afraid
of a Trump presidency, but you know, in terms of
who I'm going to vote for, I would really have
to see where we are at that moment in time.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
And so you're open to Trump vote?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I am always open, Okay, Buck, that seems pretty straightforward.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I am always open.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
That is Patrick bet David asking formerly of CNN Chris Cuomo,
and but you've talked about, and we've talked about on
this show, Andrew Cuomo basically sounds like a Republican Now
sometimes Chris Cuomo does now that they're off CNN.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I mean, Andrew Cuomo sounds less like a left wing communist, okay,
he sounds like a Republican.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
A Republican in I mean he might qualify as a
Republican in New York State, for New York, he might.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
He might be a New York Republican. Yes, I mean
whatever whatever that means. Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So I am always open. That was what Chris Cuomo
said earlier this week. Then he went on mediaite with
Dan Abrams and says I did not say I'm open
to voting for Trump. This is vintage Chris Cuomo to me,
listen to cut three.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Your outlet and a lot of other ones did what
you often.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Criticize, which is they didn't contact me.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
They didn't want contact Wait wait, wait, why do they
need to contact you? What is there to contact? You
said what you said in the interview. It speaks for itself,
for itself. Put the headline back up.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
Chris CuMo says he'd consider voting for Trump. I'm always open,
single quote on each side. I never said I would
consider voting for Trump.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I said I'm open. Well, he said.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Voting for Trump.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I said I'm always open.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
I did not say open to voting for Trump.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
You got to be open.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
You got to see the situation.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I'm not going to tell people what to.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Do that I mean, buck, this is where I'm gonna
Mediaite has not always quoted me accurately, but when you
say it directly in response to a question, would you
be open to voting for Donald Trump? I am always open.
I don't think it's unfair to take the headline of
Chris Cuomo says he's open to vote for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Fair foul. Yeah, pretty pretty straightforward. But I think he
knows that from a brand perspective, this is what I mean.
You know, you can make a name for yourself in
Democrat circles. Now if you're just willing to say things. Hey,
look we were talking about Fetterman today. Yeah, he said
his second reasonable thing. Now you pointed out very I think,
(35:31):
and it's a it's a stude. It's important that he
wants there to be the standard of no due process
for people getting kicked out. But at least it's for
both sides. Menendez in the Senate and also Santos who
has been kicked out, as we know we talked about
today in the Congress. But the Cuomos, they're not done.
This is they're going to rebuild the political brand, They're
(35:52):
going to rebuild the media brand. These guys, it's not
like they've decided to go fly fish and spend time
with the family. Like they're both gonna be in the
game as much as they can be, whatever that means,
they have to say, that's what they're gonna say.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
But for the sexual harassment allegations, let's pretend those never arise.
Do you think that Andrew Cuomo would have challenged Joe
Biden in the twenty twenty four Republican i mean Democrat primary.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
No, I think that he would know that that would
be out of turn. Yeah, and that that Biden. The
only person who can stop Biden from running at this
point is Joe Biden or you know bother time. You know,
age and debility, you know, being debilitated. But yeah, I know,
we'll see, we'll see. I mean, we gotta get Viveke
(36:40):
back here, just so I know. I want to flight
on Viveke. Force one to my stake that Clay is
going to have to buy for me when Biden is
the nominee this year. Have a great weekend, everybody,
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Third hour Clay and Buck kicks off right now. I
want to take a bunch of your calls this hour,
so make sure you get the number eight hundred two
eighty two two eight eight two written down or stuck
in your head so you can give us a ring.
We want to hear from you about what you thought
of last night debate between Ron DeSantis and Gavin Mustom.
(00:27):
I thought it was certainly a worthwhile watch, interesting and
credit to Sean Hannity, our friend, for pulling it all together.
And I think that if nothing else, my my feeling
on this one is that there needs to be more
of a more of a move toward these kinds of debates,
(00:50):
meaning that people who have large platforms and who you know,
if somebody, I mean, you know, I could put this
out there in Clay, if a hope at MSNBC wanted
to have a one v one debate with you or me,
we would jump at the opportunity as long as it
was in a reasonable format, et cetera. I think that
(01:12):
this is something that is missing, increasingly missing from our
political discourse. Honestly, everything now is echo chambers. Everything is
people preaching to the choir. You know, I used to you, Clay,
You've worked at a bunch of different media entities in
the past. I used to go over to CNN and
just have the whole audience basically boom me and I
would argue with libs over there, and they stopped having
(01:33):
me sometimes because I was a little too effective. And
that's just what ends up happening. If you're good enough
that there people you know aren't able to smack you
around on TV, even with the help of the anchor.
They don't want to. You're supposed to be the wrestling
term exactly, yes, Jo, You're supposed to be a jobb
er if you're a conservative assassin too earlier called in
(01:56):
when we were.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Talking about the WWE, and you're supposed to go in
and basically to get your ass kicked, and if you
don't get your ass kicked, if you occasionally win, it's
like a Washington generals never beat the Harlem glubtrotters. That
can't happen because it throws the entire ecosystem into an uproar.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, I mean they put me up. I remember once
on on during BLM. They put me up against Van
Jones to debate BLM stuff on I think it was
Wolf Splitzer show. Never had me back on that show,
and I was paid by CE and nither. Never had
me back on that show ever again, because it's just
he didn't have a strong argument and I did, and
(02:32):
I'd gone to these rallies. They wanted to tell me
they're not anti COP. I'm like, they're screaming pigs in
a back in a blanket fry Am like Bacon. I mean,
they're very much anti COP at these realies. But anyway,
I want to see more debate. I want to see
more people out there and having exchange of ideas because
I think that the the left wing echo chambers have
become unfortunately far too influential because they have enough reach
(02:57):
and no pushback that they can have the This is
how we get to the trends issue where it stands
now with trans sports and you know, with trends individuals
where men competing against women in sports, all this kind
of stuff. We will talk to on that issue. Jeremy
Boring and Ben Shapiro at the bottom of this hour
about their new movie coming out. You know, we again
we We view this platform as a place where everybody
(03:22):
who's on the team, we want to support what they're
doing for the country and when they have the right
ideas and they're doing cool stuff like making this movie.
So we're going to bring that to you. One thing, Clay,
that that struck me. Here, I'm going to you know,
and I'm not trying to negotiate against myself with our
with our big bet. But did you see that Biden's
approval has plummeted eight points in one month. Yeah, so
(03:46):
here's my problem. I don't see a plan b I
still think it's going to be Biden, but I wonder
how low the numbers can really go. And I wonder
what this means for the down ballot and for people.
You know, we forget this, I think very quickly. But
you look at California and New York. Yeah, they're blue states,
but there were some important congressional pickups in those states
(04:08):
in the last election. I have a feeling that Biden
could end up being not just a drag, you know,
or rather not just weak in the general election, but
a drag in the down ballot races too.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
One of the most challenging things in life take it
outside of politics, is getting people to change their mind
after they've already made up their mind. Do you know
why companies spend so much money trying to advertise their products,
primarily to the young, because they haven't decided what they
(04:41):
like yet. Once you decide whether you like or dislike something,
getting you to acknowledge that you were wrong is very
difficult and Buck. That's what I keep coming back to
on these Biden numbers. I don't think there's any argument.
One of the things that stoo out last night to me,
the Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis debate was Gavin Newsom's
(05:04):
willingness to lie, but also his willingness to uh clearly
say things that he didn't believe. I'll give you two
examples associated with Joe Biden. Sean Hannity asked what letter
grade would you give Joe Biden, and Gavin Newsom said
an A. There is nobody on the planet hardly.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I don't think Joe Biden would give himself an act.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
He shouldn't, right, I don't think Joe Biden would give
himself an A. If she's anything like most people's wife,
she probably judges her husband.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
If you asked Biden to give himself a letter grade
for his presidency. He'd give you a seven out of ten. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Look, if if Gavin Newsom had said B plus, I
would have said, Okay, that's lenient grading.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
But to give it a that was like a dad joke.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
He didn't even even I didn't even I didn't even
notice the dad joke. I was so focused on trying
to analyze what grade Gavin news could have given that
would not have been a that would not have been
a lie. He also said something else, Buck, He said
he thought Joe Biden was one hundred percent. Both of
those things are soundly rejected by the American public right now,
(06:14):
seventy five percent of It's almost impossible to get seventy
five percent of Americans to agree on anything. Seventy five
percent of Americans now agree that Joe Biden doesn't have
the mental or physical fitness to be president of the
United States. How do you convince them they're wrong? Once
people make up their mind, getting them to change their mind.
This is what we've been talking about. Compared to twenty
twenty bucks. I just don't think there's that many people
(06:35):
out there. I'd love to be wrong who voted for
Joe Biden in twenty twenty that are going to flip
and vote for Donald Trump in twenty twenty four. Why
because people don't like to admit they were wrong. I
start off this show by saying, look, I got something wrong.
I thought Gavin Newsom was going to be likable. I
thought he was going to be intelligent. I thought he
was going to be a zealous advocate and be somewhat
(06:56):
effective in trying to defend his policy.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And I was wrong. He wasn't. Let me let me
push you on this a little bit, because you had
thought and have thought, and I think you and Viveke
even agreed on this a couple of days ago. Yeah,
that Gavin Newsom will be the Democrat nominee put aside.
Whether ye are you now less confident that if Biden
were pushed aside it would be Newsom? Or do you
(07:18):
still think if Biden were if Biden, Harris, we can
put them together. Yes, we're pushed aside, it would be
Newsom or maybe somebody else.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
My theory has been for a little while now. I
think they'll try to get Michelle Obama.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
So you're now your top pick for them for the
plan is Michellekeelle Obama.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Because I don't think they can get past the sexist
and racist aspects of Kamala without also finding at least
someone who's a minority or a woman. And Michelle Obama
is a far more likable black woman than Kamala Harris's,
so I think they could shunt her aside for Michelle
(07:55):
Obama in a way that they could not for a
white guy in Gavin Newsome.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Now, to be.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Fair, Joe Biden is the oldest whitest guy who has
ever been elected president in the history of our country.
So the Democrat Party, which claims to care about diversity
and inclusion and all that jazz, was very comfortable including
an old black man James Clyburn and putting an old
white guy in front because they thought that was necessary
to beat Trump. My thought, though, buck is Biden's usefulness
(08:26):
no longer extends to his viability as an election candidate. Now,
I think this was devastating to Gavin news.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I mean, now that you and Viveke are on the
same team, like I forget about a stake, like I
want I want to ride on Viveke Force one. Yeah,
the miss Steakhouse. I've got a little bit of money.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Vivek has billions of dollars, so I might even now
say Theveke. In the event we end up wrong, I
might say, Viveke has to fund my aspect of this
bet too, because he's got plenty of resources to be
able to do.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah. I should have been like Theveke. If I'm right,
want like a Rolls Royce Phantom or something. You know,
I should have gotten a little bit saucy with my
with my demands here because I think I.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I well, then, but what if you're wrong and you
had to go buy a Maserati or a Rolls Royce
Phantom for a billionaire?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
That would be tough to explain to carry.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
You're like, hey, honey, I know that we've been saving
up for the next house. I know that we've been,
you know, putting away a lot of money. But I
lost a bet live on the radio, and I have
to buy a billionaire a luxury vehicle.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I think that would probably be a tough argument.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
To roll in and and and and argue in favor
of any woman out there.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
But but I am. I am so profoundly confident in
my position. But look, let me tell you, I mean
one of the big problems Biden's gonna have is that
I think people are thinking there's like soft landing out
there and that you know, Rach, you're just gonna start
coming down and all that. Look at prices, I mean,
look at what's going on with the economy. I think
that we could start to see some real, uh, some
(09:51):
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(10:54):
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I'm like, you're gonna sell it. I'm gonna get in
trouble for even mentioning this.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
My wife will share shirts for like five dollars on
yard sales, and I don't people have to be driving
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Speaker 1 (12:13):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We've been
talking about a lot of different stories, the reaction to
the debate between Ron DeSantis and Gavin Newsom, George Santo's
being kicked out of Congress, whether we think it's a
good idea or a bad idea. We had Kirk Cameron
and Studio. We're gonna be joined by Jeremy Boring and
Ben Shapiro of The Daily Wire here shortly, but buck
(12:36):
three different deaths this week of iconic American legends all
over the age of ninety Charlie Munger, who was Warren
Buffett's partner at Berkshire Hathaway, Henry Kissing, Henry Kissinger, and
Sondra Day O'Connor, and I saw this on.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Berkshire Hathaway. I got a question for you.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Let's pretend we could go back in time, Biff from
back to the future, to style and take advantage of
not sports gambling like Biff did, but take advantage of
stock prices. If you and I could go back to
nineteen sixty four and we could put down a thousand
dollars in Berkshire Hathaway stock, what would that stock one
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thousand dollars of Berkshire Hathaway nineteen sixty four be worth today?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
What would be your guess? I mean, that's that math
is hard to do offhand. One thousand dollars. We're talking
now seventy years ago, is that seventy or like you said,
nineteen sixty sixty years ago basically almost exactly sixty years ago. Sorry,
sixty years sixty years ago. Uh, it's probably worth I
(13:54):
don't know. I mean, this is crazy, man. Ten million dollars.
That's exactly right, is it really? That's exactly right. I'm amazing.
I didn't know. That is incredible.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But I want to yay capitalism for all of you
out there, first of all, incredible guests, by Buck.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
If you, in nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Had merely put a thousand dollars into Berkshire Hathaway Stock,
you had just left that thousand dollars in there, you
had not touched it, you would now have ten million
dollars that I saw that stat in the Wall Street
Journal and I could not believe the orders of magnitude
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got another stock for you, Peiser Stock.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I don't know that we've mentioned.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Ken Paxton, the Attorney General of the state of Texas,
has filed a lawsuit alleging fraud against Peiser. Peiser Stockbuck
has just hit a decade low just about because this
company stock is collapsing. We talked about earlier. Only four
percent of people kids six months to eighteen years old
(16:30):
are getting the COVID shot. Only ten percent of those
eighteen and up. This right now, the market is telling
you could be a body blow to Peiser going forward.
Stock's lost over one hundred billion in market cap just
in the last two years.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I just wonder how it will play out in the courts, because,
as we know, I think it might be dismissed out
of hand because these companies were we remember what happened.
These companies were told you have immunity and you're good
to go. And the federal government and this part of
Operation Warp Speed under Trump federal government said, we'll give
you full immunity. Just make these make these shots as
fast as you can. You know, we know it's a
(17:08):
different process. We know, but we're in an emergency situation
and so at some level too. I mean, you can't
have the government double crossing the private sector, right. You
can't have the government say you got to make these,
you got to make these. I don't even care what
the risks are, the side effects, just make them as
fast as you can and then have the government say, actually,
we made a we made a mistake. So now we're
gonna come as much as I think the big you know,
(17:30):
the shot makers or the rather the pharmaceutical companies were
somewhat dishonest with all this. I mean, do you see
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Like, yeah, no, I know. I think the immunity. I
think the challenge will be and I'm curious. I give
credit to Ken Paxton for filing this law stuit. I
think other state attorney generals in Red State should do
the same. The challenge will be, does the process of
discovery uncover that Pfizer and Maderna knew at the time
that they were saying these COVID shots were one hundred
(17:59):
percent effect that they weren't actually true, because oftentimes fraud
will eliminate the ability to argue that you have no liability.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
They're going to say that these are the numbers that
we had on the timeline we were forced to be
on because the government wanted them when they wanted them.
I just don't as much as I I'm not trying
to be some big pharma apologist here, but I just
don't see how their legal liability is going to play
out in a way that they get hit on this.
But maybe maybe I'm wrong, But then again, I did
guess the ten million dollars berksure have that.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I'm not gonna lie. That was pretty impressive. Thousand dollars
would have turned into ten million. We come back, Buck,
you'll like this question, and we're going to talk with
Jeremy and Ben Shapiro about this new movie. Jeremy raised
a really good question. I want you to think about it.
During the break all of you can think about it
as well. When was the last great comedy movie. When
was the last time you went to the theaters and said,
(18:50):
my goodness, this was really funny.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
The leftist killed comedy? Think about it? What was the
last great.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Lady Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
All right, welcome back to Clan Buck. We are joined
now by the co founders of The Daily Wire. We've
got Jeremy Boring with us and Ben Shapiro. They're gonna
talk to us about Lady Ballers. Gentlemen, thank you for
being with.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Us, and I think we're gonna get hooked up with
them here shortly. Buck, I'm in this movie and Jeremy
asked a really good question at the premiere on Wednesday night,
and I asked this question as we went to break
and I think they're with us now. Jeremy, you pointed
out that basically great comedy had been killed by sort
(19:38):
of this left wing ideology, and the reason you made
Lady Ballers was because there was a challenge that on
some level there had to be new comedy, but it
had to come from the right as opposed to the left.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I think that it was Joe Rogan who said a
little over fourteen months ago that if there was going
to be another great comedy, it would have to come
from some unlike The Daily Wire. And I took that
to mean, well, there isn't really anyone else like the
Daily Wire. So I guess he means us. You know,
I think that comedy automatically when the country was being
run in a more traditional way, that meant that comedy
was a great tool of the left. As soon as
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the left achieved premacy and hegem hegemony in terms of
their politics and cultural influence, they decided that comedy was
no longer going to be allowed because, of course, the
thing that you want to make fun of now is them,
and they're just not going to stand for it. They
know far better than we the power of mockery.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Hey Ben, thanks for being here with us. How do
you pull a project like this together? You know, we
had your colleague Matt Walshawan for the What Is a Woman? Documentary,
which we thought we thought was great. You know that
one though felt like, yeah, it's it's within the kind
of editorial line that I would expect from Matt and
other folks a Daily Wire. But to write something scripted
(20:52):
like this, how did you you know come? How did
you come together with this? Who'd you bring into it?
And just I want to know about the production process
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Well, you definitely need to ask Jeremy about that because
My main job in this was to say yes to
the project, and that was pretty much it. Then I
showed up for a scene with somebody else who's online.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I got much another than acting chops like Clay. I'll
pass this one back to Jeremy then go ahead.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, you know, I think at Ben and I from
the very beginning, long before we've been found at the
Daily Wire, we understood that it's not enough to critique culture.
If we want long term success, we have to create culture.
We grew up both under the sort of tutelage of
Andrew Brybaright well as I grow up, I mean politically
grew up under the tutelage of Andrew Breitbart, who understood
the power of culture, the fact that politics only operates
(21:37):
in a window created by culture. And so this was
always on our mind, and we've surrounded ourselves over time
with people who had what we think our skills that
would be really useful in this regard, Dallas Sonier, our
producing partner over at Bonfire Legend being one of them,
but also our talent. You know, I thought we were
going to get big actors to be in this from
the beginning. We got turned down by just about every
actor we went out to, and I'm glad because it
(21:58):
really became kind of a family project. Every Daily Wire
host is represented on screening. You get to see a
side of them that you haven't seen before and the really,
I think high level of talent that these guys have.
Just as one example, our sports hosts Jay Crane, Blaine Crane,
and David Cohne play three of the truly lead roles
in the film, and they are sensationally funny. And these
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guys are as good in this film as any comic
actor in Hollywood would have been if this had been
produced by a far more established production entity than we are.
And I'm excited to have gotten to do that with them,
and I think the audience would be excited to see
that side of them.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I told everybody that I have a small cameo. It's
alongside of Ben Shapiro, who's with us right now, Ben Shapiro,
Jeremy Boring. I found the movie and I went to
go watch it on Wednesday. I'm going to show it
to my thirteen year old, my fifteen year old. I
think there are a lot of kids that will enjoy
it as well. And I know you have really young
kids been. But what I found actually amazing was it
(22:57):
was very funny and very well done and filled with
satire and ridicule of the current economic I mean current
environment we find ourselves in. But also it's very heartwarming
at the end. Did that surprise you when you watched
it based on what you knew and thought that it
would look like it?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Definitely did. I Mean, first, let me just say, my
kids are nine, seven, three and six months. None of
them will be watching this film. That is totally inappropriate
for them. I would recommend that unless their kids are
above the age of like fifteen, sixteen, I really don't
recommend that you have like younger kids watching it.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
It's alrighted.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I mean, there's some jokes in there that are definitely
on the risque side, but you know, that's just again
because we're not Disney, We're not interested in cultivating our kids.
But the one thing that is certainly true is that
the element of the film that is the truest of
all is the heart of the film. There's an enormous
amount of heart in this film. There's enormous amount of
morality in this film, and some of the speeches that
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are made over the course of the film take on
topics that no other studio would take on. And we're
not talking about the trans issue. We're talking about things
like divorce. I mean, there's a speed I played a
clip on my show today. There's a speech that's given
by one of the characters where she goes through why
divorce absolutely destroys children. That is something that not only
will Hollywood never produce, Hollywood provides precisely the opposite image.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
I mean, they've been pushing divorce as a solution.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
To marriage since you know, the nineteen sixties at a minimum,
And so the fact that we produce something like that,
I think that we're proud of that.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
I think also obviously.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
At the end, no doubt, and and what I would
say is by you. By the way, you can check
it out at dailywire dot com. It's going to debut tonight. Jeremy,
what are you most proud of about this movie now
that it's complete, Now that you've debuted it Wednesday night
in Nashville, great crowd came out to watch it. Now
that you got a little bit of time for reflection,
(24:45):
What is the most satisfying aspect of having made this
film to you?
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah, Well, as coach, Rob might say, I'm proud of
the team. Really, everybody stepped up and punched away above
their weight class to make this happen. You know, our
Daily Wire staff was deeply involved in it. Many of
them are. Our Daily Wire hosts are just tremendous in it.
My kid brother wrote all the music for it, and
I know that that sets a low expectation. I think
the music is truly one of the best aspets of it.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, let me cut you off there for a sec.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Because my wife went to the movie with me and
halfway through it, she said, this soundtrack is incredible.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
It's all original.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
She said, a lot of times you can tell in
movies when it's not done at a high level because
of the music. She was blown away by how good
that was, even in particular, had nothing to do with
the on screen acting or story.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
You deserved a lot of credit for that.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Your brother, Yeah, he's a monster talent and he came
through in a major way. It's these great like anthemy
eighties rock montage sports tunes.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
They're just killer.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
So I'm proud of the effort and I'm proud of
the accomplishment. And you know, you brought up the heart.
I will say this was not my first time.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
To see the movie.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Obviously, I've seen it, you know, dozens and dozens and
dozens of times throughout the process of editing it and
coloring it and sound designing and all the mix and
everything that you do. It also wasn't my first time
to see it with an audience. I saw it with
a small audience in Budapest not long ago. But what
really struck me watching it with the crowd on Wednesday
night is how well the heartfelt scenes play. And when
we were there on set shooting the ending, I won't
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give too much away, it's.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
So full of life and heart.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
We were all just laughing, almost in tears because we
had a thousand extras up in the stands in this
big sports arena, and the thing that you see at
the end of the movie was actually happening right in
front of us. We were just capturing it with cameras
as it occurred. And I think it's a truly beautiful moment.
And that's what I love about the movie. I think
that it does hold up. I think it's very funny.
(26:36):
I think it does a great job of handling these
issues that it was sort of tailor made to handle.
But I also just think it's a good story and
a good film and people will walk away really satisfied
with it.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Lady Ballers is the movie, Guys Daily wire dot Com
go check it out. Ben Ben, I just had I
had to ask you this, to what degree do you
think you can gauge the success of this film by
how much it drives the left absolutely insane and that
your movie is actually the death of the Republic in
the beginning of fascism in their eyes.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Well, I mean, we always gauge ourselves by that standard.
I mean, whatever we can do to tweak people, apparently
we will do. And I think that the left is
going to feel good in tweaks by this thing, and
you're going to see that in the response.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
I mean, I think it's going to manifest in some
cleverer ways.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
I think you're going to see them hit us with
bad reviews in the same way that they they've tried
to hit our other movies with bad reviews. I think
you're going to see them try to try to ignore it.
That's another tactic that they've used in the past. But
the reality is that I think that they're going to
be wildly tick this was ever made, and they.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Should be well, where can people go to see it?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
So they should go to Daily wire dot com slash subscribe.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
You do.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
You have to be a subscriber in order to see
the film.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Tonight eight pm Eastern is when it mairs, and you're
going to get fifty percent of field that is available
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Speaker 2 (27:48):
Last question we can hear you guys.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, Jeremy, you guys are working on a monster. My
understanding is episodic story right now. That's why you reference
the fact that you've been in your What is that
story and when it will it be out? And what
story are you attempting to tell there?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, we have a bunch of new things that will
be coming out in fact tonight in front of Lady
Ballers who are going to premiere the first teaser trailer
for our first scripted animated comedy with Adam Sandler. It's
his great character Bertram, and this show brings it to
life with a cast of characters that includes Roseanne Barr
and Patrick Warburton and many other great actors. And then yeah,
midway through the year next year, we'll release our first
(28:29):
sort of fantasy epic called The Pen Dragon Cycle, based
on the novels by the same name by Stephen Lawhead.
I read these novels when I was a teenager. They
were incredibly instrumental in forming my worldview, both both politically
and in terms of my faith, and it's always been
a dream of mine to bring them to life on screen.
I know firsthand the power that the story can have
(28:49):
on helping to shape young minds, and I want other
people to be able to experience that. I've been in
Europe more of this year than i have in America,
and it's been the hardest thing I've ever endeavored to do.
But I'm really proud of the work that we've done,
and I in fact head back in two hours. I'll
be back in Budapest when Lady Ballers goes live tonight,
which is probably good. I won't be able to check
in moment by moment by moment see how we're doing.
(29:10):
I'll just be somewhere over the Atlantic sleeping.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
But then very cool, Well, convey guys, congratulations, you know,
at the end of the year.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
To wrap that up.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
For for years we've been talking about just in the
conservative movement more generally, Hey, we have to actually make
our own culture. We can't. We can't just sit around
and argue about the tax rate and constitutional law. And
congrats to you guys for doing another film and we
look forward to seeing more and we hope people will
check out Lady Ballers. Thanks for making the time for
us today.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Thank you, thanks for being in the film with us Clinton.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, thank you guys again. It is really cool. I
think you guys will like it. Ladyballer's Daily wire dot com.
And we've been talking with Jeremy Boring and Ben Shapiro
who are doing work great work there. And you know what,
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may go. We are now into December, we can honestly
say next month voting begins on the twenty twenty four
presidential election in Iowa. And as a part of that voting,
(32:14):
maybe some people you might not expect open to voting
for Donald Trump. That was the story that came out
when Chris Cuomo, formerly of CNN, went on with our
good friend Patrick Bett David whose podcast and YouTube channel
we have been on and said, based on this answer,
that he might be open to voting for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Here's cut too.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
We survived a Trump administration, would we survive another one?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Yes, I don't think there's any greater risk to America
with him than with Biden. And for people who are
now going to attack me and say, what are you
talking about? Trump is like this crazy manager. Oh look,
nobody was trying to kill us when Trump was president
in a way that they're not now. If anything, there's
more hostility, and you can have reasons for that any
(33:03):
way you want. I'm just saying existentially, I'm not afraid
of a Trump presidency, but you know, in terms of
who I'm going to vote for, I would really have
to see where we are at that moment in time.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
And so you're open to Trump vote?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I am always open, Okay, Buck, that seems pretty straightforward.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I am always open.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
That is Patrick bet David asking formerly of CNN Chris Cuomo,
and but you've talked about, and we've talked about on
this show, Andrew Cuomo basically sounds like a Republican Now
sometimes Chris Cuomo does now that they're off CNN.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I mean, Andrew Cuomo sounds less like a left wing communist, okay,
he sounds like a Republican.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
A Republican in I mean he might qualify as a
Republican in New York State, for New York, he might.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
He might be a New York Republican. Yes, I mean
whatever whatever that means. Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So I am always open. That was what Chris Cuomo
said earlier this week. Then he went on mediaite with
Dan Abrams and says I did not say I'm open
to voting for Trump. This is vintage Chris Cuomo to me,
listen to cut three.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Your outlet and a lot of other ones did what
you often.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Criticize, which is they didn't contact me.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
They didn't want contact Wait wait, wait, why do they
need to contact you? What is there to contact? You
said what you said in the interview. It speaks for itself,
for itself. Put the headline back up.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
Chris CuMo says he'd consider voting for Trump. I'm always open,
single quote on each side. I never said I would
consider voting for Trump.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I said I'm open. Well, he said.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Voting for Trump.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I said I'm always open.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
I did not say open to voting for Trump.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
You got to be open.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
You got to see the situation.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I'm not going to tell people what to.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Do that I mean, buck, this is where I'm gonna
Mediaite has not always quoted me accurately, but when you
say it directly in response to a question, would you
be open to voting for Donald Trump? I am always open.
I don't think it's unfair to take the headline of
Chris Cuomo says he's open to vote for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Fair foul. Yeah, pretty pretty straightforward. But I think he
knows that from a brand perspective, this is what I mean.
You know, you can make a name for yourself in
Democrat circles. Now if you're just willing to say things. Hey,
look we were talking about Fetterman today. Yeah, he said
his second reasonable thing. Now you pointed out very I think,
(35:31):
and it's a it's a stude. It's important that he
wants there to be the standard of no due process
for people getting kicked out. But at least it's for
both sides. Menendez in the Senate and also Santos who
has been kicked out, as we know we talked about
today in the Congress. But the Cuomos, they're not done.
This is they're going to rebuild the political brand, They're
(35:52):
going to rebuild the media brand. These guys, it's not
like they've decided to go fly fish and spend time
with the family. Like they're both gonna be in the
game as much as they can be, whatever that means,
they have to say, that's what they're gonna say.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
But for the sexual harassment allegations, let's pretend those never arise.
Do you think that Andrew Cuomo would have challenged Joe
Biden in the twenty twenty four Republican i mean Democrat primary.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
No, I think that he would know that that would
be out of turn. Yeah, and that that Biden. The
only person who can stop Biden from running at this
point is Joe Biden or you know bother time. You know,
age and debility, you know, being debilitated. But yeah, I know,
we'll see, we'll see. I mean, we gotta get Viveke
(36:40):
back here, just so I know. I want to flight
on Viveke. Force one to my stake that Clay is
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Therapy Gecko
An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.