December 2, 2023 • 37 mins
Biden apologies to group of Muslim-Americans for doubting Hamas claims. Netanyahu on eliminating Hamas. Hostage negotiations. Fire alarm in NFL RedZone studios. Did Buck watch any football over Thanksgiving weekend? John Kirby, Biden, Joe Scarborough on Israel-Hamas pause, hostage release. Daily Wire releases trailer for "Lady Ballers" with cameos by Clay and Riley Gaines. Buck on Oppenheimer, Clay on Napoleon.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back everybody from Thanksgiving holiday Clay in Buck time.
We got much to discuss with you, play. Thank you
for holding down the fort making sure there's plenty of
turkey to go around in my absence. I will say,
I think I might have hit the limit for how
much weight one could gain in forty eight hours.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I went, I went all in in the paint. My friend,
did you weigh yourself? Did you actually weigh yourself?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Play? Of course not. I don't weigh myself to the
new year, my friend.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I know there's a lot of nervousness for people getting
out of the shower this morning, you know, starting off
return to work schedule. That scale is there, and a
lot of apprehensive glances in that direction.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So we're definitely in recovery from Thanksgiving feast, from the
food comas that people may have fallen into. I hope
you all had an absolutely fantastic one. And look, we
basically have a bit of a sprint between now and
the Christmas holiday at the end of the year and
Hanukkah and the New Year's and then we're just in
(01:07):
the thick of the political cycle. You know, we're we're
what forty nine days out right? Forty nine days or
thinks that's basically it.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, I think it's whatever we call it.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We'll call it just under fifty because that's under fifty
for the first votes to be cast. So this is
all going to be happening very quickly. We'll have updates
for you on that one. They're starting to, I think,
turn the machinery of destruction and defamation against Donald Trump
more and more on the left. I think they're already
(01:37):
starting to try to get in early an early look
at their Trump Arrangement syndrome mechanisms. I think they're trying
to get them fired up as quickly as they can.
So we'll talk about that. Some other interesting stuff going on.
We have New York retailers lost four point four billion
due to organized shoplifting in twenty twenty two. That's not
(02:00):
even just eazy off the cuff or sort of on
the fly shoplifting. That's organized retail theft, which is really
just a form of organized crime.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Everybody probably start calling it that.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Uneasy about people walking in at night near their home.
Nationwide is at a thirty year high. According to Gallup,
I thought that was some unsettling but important data we
can dive into later on in the show. But Clay,
I know we've also got the shots that people are
not getting. You'll give us those numbers in a little bit.
But people are not getting COVID shots, which is so
(02:31):
strange because I remember two years ago, if you wouldn't
get the COVID shot, you were like a monster.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
You're a horrible person. That's what they told us.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
But first off, there's some breaking news just today. So
the truth between Israel and Hamas is going to be
extended for two days, and on Sunday, Hamas released the
third group of hostages. This was just yesterday, so it's
been three different hostages releases as of yesterday, and now
there's an agreement to extend with more hostages released. So
(03:01):
there's been this four day ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.
The ceasefire on Sunday for fourteen Israelis, including a four
year old who holds dual US citizenship, three Thai citizens,
thirty nine Palestinian prisoners set to be released by Israel
and Clay, you may have seen this one over the weekend.
(03:21):
This kind of goes to the politics of what's happening here,
what's going on the White House? This is the Washington
Post piece grapples with internal divisions on Israel, Gaza. Now
you raised this first on the show The White House. Apparently, well,
Joe Biden specifically apologized to a group this was just
(03:44):
reported yesterday in the Washington Post. Apologized to a group
of Muslim American leaders and said that he shouldn't have
doubted so strongly Hamas supplied casualty numbers. This is what
he says behind closed doors. Clay, I think the Democrats
are fine out.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
They can't have a both ways on this stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, And I think this is part of the major
obstacle that exists for Joe Biden's reelection is the identity
politics world that Democrats created, where you view everything through
the prism of race oppression. The idea that white men
are evil is falling down all around them. And you know,
(04:23):
Trump was kind of their boogeyman, the great Satan, that
they could rely upon uniting all of their identity politics coalition.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I don't think that's working very well. Buck.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And it's not only that Biden is facing internal divisions
inside of his own inside of his own tent. It's
that many people black, White, Asian and Hispanic who otherwise
bought into what Joe Biden sold in twenty twenty, increasingly,
I think are getting red pilled in real time. And
I talked over this holiday with a variety of different
(04:59):
people who are Jewish, who are all different political persuasions,
and this is a national international red pill moment for
many of them. And for those of you out there
who are not familiar with the concept of the red pill.
You know, it's a phrase of metaphor that took on
a lot of power in the last seven or eight years.
(05:20):
I would say where if you remember the movie The Matrix,
you make a choice, if you want to see the
take the red pill. Then you see how deep everything goes.
It's the neo character suddenly becomes aware of the simulation
in which he is his living. And I think there's
a lot of you out there that are similar to me.
Now you have also a lot of buck Sexton's out
there in the world who when they were twelve years
(05:43):
old were reading William F. Buckley and nodding along and
as that is all that is, certainly as one does
that is certainly a not insubstantial portion of this audience,
But I think there's a lot of people like me too,
who just kind of slowly, as you aged, looked around
and said, man, a lot of this stuff is not
adding up. And I've heard from so many Jewish people,
(06:05):
and I'm sure that a lot of you are listening
to us right now who October seventh was and the
resulting aftermath of October seventh and the reaction was for
them a crystallizing moment that they suddenly became aware, wait
a minute, we're not really on the same team anymore.
And I think a lot of you out there probably
had conversations with kids and grandkids coming home from college campuses,
(06:27):
and some of those I bet we're uncomfortable because your
kids are telling you that Jews are the bad guy here,
and you're having to explain to them that despite the
fact that they're ostensibly highly educated, they've been very susceptible
to being told and taught untruths. And so I think
this is what Joe Biden is reconciling. When you have
huge support from Jews and Muslims in your twenty twenty election,
(06:50):
this is not an issue you can third weigh it,
you're either on the side of good or evil.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Hamas is evil.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
The Jews are in this situation good, and it's not
a difficult decision for most people.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I don't know if there's been a time since the
since the real thick of the COVID madness of the
Biden regime, that I've had so many people reach out
who listen to this show, whether just people who listen,
or even friends of mine from from earlier in life
that I haven't heard from in years, who just say
I just want to know. Say thank NEANXT to me
(07:20):
and to you for just speaking with moral clarity on
this issue, because I think this is a moment of
moral clarity. I think that people who don't see it
as such are confused or worse. I think confused is
the best thing that you could try to say about it,
And certainly in this meeting today with Benjamin Netan Yahoo
and Elon Musk And as an aside, I've been reading
(07:44):
the Walter Isaacson Elon. It's excellent, really really, I mean
it's super readable. So I was flying through that. That
was what I was reading over the holiday. So I'll
probably be dropping some Elon Musk knowledge in the weeks ahead.
Fascinating guy and we should have him on the show.
By the way, we got to get him on the show.
But anyway, back to moral clarity, back to the fight
against Amas, Benjamin and Yahoo meeting with Elon Musk. Listen
(08:05):
to what is the Israeli Prime Minister has to say,
play five.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
If you want peace, destroy Klamas. If you want security,
destroy Lamas. If you want a better life for the
Palestinians in Gaza been hijacked by Hamas, destroy Kamas. All
of that is a precursor to the question that you asked.
You first have to get rid of the poisonous regime,
(08:31):
as you did in Germany, as you did in Japan. Yeah,
in World War two, these were two. There's no choice,
there's no choice, So there's preerequds.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yes, that is the point of clarity here. Okay, we
can talk about ceasefires and negotiations, and we can certainly
have conversations about ways to mitigate although elimination is not
possible and that's an impossible standard, but to mitigate Palestinian
casualties in Gaza. But the mission set here is clear,
and this is what these two individuals as Benjamin et
(09:00):
Yahu Nielon Musk are agreeing on. The mission set is
the destruction and elimination of Hamas as an entity, which
means it's leadership is either captured or killed, and it's
you know, it's primary cells and fighter groups, mechanisms, et cetera.
Are taken off the battlefield. That's it. Otherwise Hamas gets
away with it and continues this and that's unacceptable. Well,
(09:22):
and to some extent, Hamas is getting away with the
taking of the hostages. They're being rewarded for stealing and
holding two hundred and forty Jewish people in captivity for
the last almost fifty days and beyond because they're getting
a three to one return. Is my understanding of hostages,
(09:43):
that is Israel is giving back three for everyone they get.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
In the past.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And this always goes to the respect for life that
the Israeli people and Israeli regime is rooted in. Not
saying it's perfect, but it is rooted in respect for life,
protection of life. Clay that in the past there have
been far bigger You know that the Israelis will swap
hundreds for one of their own. They will do prisoner
(10:09):
releases out of prison of terrorists if they need to
save the lives of one of their own. Now that's
always very difficult. Right now we say we don't negotiate
with terrorists. I used to work in CIICTC. I can
tell you that what the government has done, especially in
the Obama administration, was negotiate with terrorists a whole heck
of a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I'll also say this, buck. You notice how every time
there's actually peril or danger in the world, biology becomes
real again. You know who's getting released? Women and children
first there. It's amazing how when there are times apparel.
Look at Ukraine, I believe them. The numbers are every
man under the age of sixty has been drafted. Now
(10:49):
there are some women who have been fighting, but you're
not allowed to leave the country of Ukraine. I don't
think legally if you're under the age of sixty. And
to my understanding, no men have been released at all.
You've probably seen that meme of the Titanic going down
where the bad guy is rushing towards the lifeboats, and
you know there's the picture it says women in.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
The Billy Zain character, he was he was so good
in Titanic. I got to so good, so good as
a bad guy. But you know, there's a meme of
him trying to rush to the life boats and it
says women and children first, and immediately the Billy's ain character,
obviously this is made up, screams, I'm transu, which is
which is very funny.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
And have you seen that memes?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Oh it's great, so good, women and children first, he screams,
I'm trans uh. But women and children are being released first.
And whenever there's a Ukraine, what do they do pass
out guns to the men and say, hey, if you
leave the country, we're gonna shoot you. You better go
get on the front lines and fight.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Being concerned with what a man is or what a
woman is is a luxury of extremely wealthy peacetime reality
that the vast majority of the world does not engage
in this subterfuge, in this absurdity, And I always think
it just kind of brings back home biological reality every
time I see the headline, you know, more women and
children are being really certainly, wont all the Americans and
(12:07):
all of the Israelis back healthy, But so far it's
only women and children that are being released. But I
also just just point out, Clay that we talked about
moral clarity, and I'm not saying there aren't areas of complexity.
And you can get into the historical back and forth
over Israel and Palestine and what happened in forty eight
(12:28):
and what happened in sixty seven and what happened in
the Young Keeper War, and you know, sure there's a
ton of complexity. People spend their whole lives, but there
are areas of true and critical moral clarity that we
have seen. Right, if you go in and kill and
kill fourteen hundred people because and do it in the
way that the Palestinians did civilians, you're the bad guy. Yes,
(12:51):
I mean, I know that we're not supposed to think
in these very straightforward terms, but we need to think
in these very straightforward terms. And I just think of
the four year old Gail more e Don who is
a little four year old girl. She holds dual US citizenship, okay,
with Israeli citizenship, so she's a US citizen and Israeli citizen.
(13:11):
How can you not know you're the bad guy when
you're holding a four year old girl hostage?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It's not possible because there are Hamas people now, you
know people I know the Hamas apologists will say, well,
look they kept her alive, you know as ooh, we're
supposed to be thankful they didn't murder a four year
old girl after murdering a lot of children and babies before.
But it's not like this isn't this is beyond them.
They are absolutely capable and have shown us that they
are willing to engage in that level of barbarity. But
(13:37):
when you're taking four year old girls hostage because you
have a political gripe, you're you're the bad guy and
you need to catch a hell fire missile in the face.
That's the truth. It's one hundred percent the truth. And
also it's terrifying how many people in America can no
longer recognize that there is good and evil and call
out evil when they see it, especially because they've been
(13:59):
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Don't miss a day of the Clay Travis and Buck
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Speaker 3 (15:24):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. So I
was driving for like eight or nine hours as many
of you were over the holiday weekend on Sunday, so
I primarily listened to the NFL on a radio and whatnot.
I was also not plugged in on my phone like
I ordinarily would be, so I didn't even see this,
(15:47):
but evidently they had a fire alarm during the NFL
Red Zone. Listen to this cut twenty I believe.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Well, ladies and gentlemen, this is a first in my
twenty something year broadcasting career. We have an alarm going
off in the studios of NFL Red Zone right now
in our studios here in Inglewood, California, we are being
told we need to evacuate the building.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
We do not know the nature of the emergency.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
You can probably hear the alarm going right over the
top of my right shoulder here, as it is something
absolutely unprecedented for us.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
They take no commercial breaks and they jump from one
NFL game to another. Now, listeners may not know this,
but this happened to Buck in his apartment building in Miami.
It started to go off like with fifteen minutes left
in the show or whatever, and Buck, you just had
to tap out.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I don't even know that.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We hardly mentioned it at the time, but that has
happened on this show. Also, did you watch forty one
million people watched the Dallas Cowboys on Thanksgiving? I think
it's the third most watched NFL regulars in game ever.
But did you watch any football with your brothers over
(17:05):
Thanksgiving weekend? I did not, not one minute. I did
not watch one minute of football over the weekend. No,
what percentage of our audience do you think didn't watch
one minute of football this weekend at all? Well, let
me just first say I think our audience appreciates that
I keep it real. Buck keeps it real. I don't
(17:25):
just come on here and say I don't know about
the sports ball things. I do not go home and
watch the sport. I did accidentally tune in last night.
There was an overtime thing that was very interesting with
the Eagles and another team.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
The goals and the Bills went to overtime. But that
was accidental. But I was like, well, it's like the
last play and someone's gonna win. So I turned that
on for a second. Ali producer, who was still with
her family up in Massachusetts. She says she did not
watch a minute either.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So I would bet five percent of our audience maybe
maybe ten percent didn't watch a single moment. I mean
just walking in from the kitchen. You would think it
would be almost impossible to avoid in general, but intentionally
Buck managed to do it.
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Speaker 1 (19:04):
Cleet Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
As for the other Americans that we believe are in captivity,
being held hostage, we don't have a whole lot of
information about them, where they are, what condition they might
be in, or what exactly the schedule would be for
their release. That said, as you heard the President say
over the weekend, we're going to keep working at this
hour by hour, and we certainly have every hope that
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when these four days are over with and the original agreement.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Is done, that.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
HAMAS will be able to come up with more hostages
in coming days to allow that pause to continue and
allow more people to get out.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
So that's the National Security Council spokesman for the Biden
regime here, and he's certainly more aware of what's go
going on than the commander in chief. Officially speaking, Joe Biden,
when asked about American hostages being released, this has cut seven.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
This is what he had to.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
Say, mister President, do you have an update on the
other Americans for being held at any sense as to
when they would be reliefed.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
We are hopeful, but I don't have anything firmly to
tell you.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
At this moment.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
Have you extracted any guarantees about proof of laying or
other hostages or do you have an expectation of how
much longer you could push it?
Speaker 11 (20:34):
A boss?
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Well, look, you know the deal calls for ever for
every ten hostage release to extend another day. So I'm
hopeful this is not the end. It's going to continue,
but we don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So Clay, you have a Biden administration that is in
the midst of trying to, at least domestically politically play
it both ways a bit, you know, Oh don't. I
don't want to seem like I'm being too harsh on
Hamas because that somehow is being too harsh on the Palestinians.
And there are forever victims. There are always the victims,
(21:08):
even when they're victimizing other people. And then you also
have the Democrat media chorus out there. This is cut nine,
this is Joe Scarborough. While this is happening in the
aftermath of the biggest mass casualty terror attack since nine
to eleven, approximately fourteen hundred is rareleies, rerually murdered by
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Hamas terrorists. And the word you'll hear the approach, the
talking point that you'll hear from Democrats is oh, but
things would be so much worse if Biden wasn't president,
you know, if like Trump were president.
Speaker 10 (21:43):
Play nine, the crisis we're going through right now, where
the world could really spiral into World War three, but
it's not because a guy who's actually had fifty years
of experience.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
It shows the contrast.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
Between a guy obsessed with marketing his brand, a guy
obsessed with gestures, a guy who governed by gesture, versus
well Joe Biden, who has fifty years of experience, and
when a deal go sideways on the hostages, he can
pick up the phone, he can call, he can get
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it done.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
This is truly delusional.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
First of all, the claye the elevation of Biden as
some tactician like some tally Rand or Metternicht or you know,
some skilled international operator. Joe Biden's a buffoon on foreign policy,
and it's been known for forty years. But beyond that,
this is like saying that the world would be worse
off if Biden weren't president, would be like someone who
(22:40):
the house is burning down on his watch, who's saying, Hey,
if I wasn't here, guys, the house across the street
would be burning down too.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
I don't think that's very compelling.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, and I wonder I mean, Alex Ditdton the invite.
I think I said this last week when Joe Scarborough
said that the president was going to be Trump, if
he were president, would be executing his political opponents. Do
you think Joe Scarborough is a dumb man or do
you think he has just become comfortable being a propagandist
(23:12):
for idiocy. I think that he is utterly and completely
bereft of any ethical compunction with what he will say
for the MSNBC audience. Whatever gets it done. Those paychecks
the guys paid millions, they flow in.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
He does. He's a former Republican. Everybody a Republican member of.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Congress representing where I just came from the Panhandle of Florida,
so I spent my Thanksgiving. By the way, he met
a lot of our listeners. I did a book signing
in Rosemary Beach, Florida, where we have a place. Just
absolutely love it down there, but it is one of
the best places in America. So the idea that Joe
Scarborough could go from a Republican member of Congress to
(23:54):
shilling for Joe Biden. And look, if you want to argue.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
That Trump is not the right choice, or and we
probably need to play Mitt Romney at some point, who
is talking about an utter disgrace and failure. But if
you want to argue that Trump is not the right choice,
there's a big percentage of people out there listening right
now who are all in on Ron DeSantis and Nicky
Haley and maybe Vivek Chris Christy. You feel like there
(24:21):
is a far better option than Trump. I could accept
that argument, right, That is a valid position to have
as we come into the primary season. It's not crazy,
you know. I think that you can have an argument
that Nicky Haley or Rond DeSantis would win even more
than Trump would. I don't know that I'd buy it,
but I think you can make that argument. I don't
(24:43):
see how at all, given where Joe Biden is, that
you can be arguing things would be so much worse.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
If Biden were not in office.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I mean, again, we played this game before, Buck and
I think it's such an interesting question because it flips
it on his head. What has Biden done well? What
would you point to in the three plus years that
Biden has been in office and say, boy, you know,
he's really handled that well. Regardless of your politics, Usually,
if you're a Republican, you can point to something that
(25:12):
a Democrat's done and say, hey, you know, I might
not agree with everything, but he did this, and vice versa.
You're a Republican, you're a Democrat, and Republicans in office
you can point to something and say, hey, I don't
agree with the guy on a lot of What can
you even point to and say, you know, on this issue,
Joe Biden has done a really good job. I legitimately
(25:34):
can't even think of anything in this country that is
better today than it was when Joe Biden came into office.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I will say I think that it almost works to
his benefit that the expectations are so low that for
anyone to think that he really is responsible for almost
any of these decisions in a meaningful way. I think
it's largely the perception of those at least paying attention
to politics country that the people around Joe Biden, his advisors,
(26:03):
and everyone else are making the calls and we've talked
about the third term of Obama and how there's top
Obama advisors in Obama himself weighing in on these things,
and that's a matter of record, that's not just some
conspiracy theory. I think that's all a part of it.
And I just think that the expectations are so low
for Biden in decision making that.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
It almost diffuses.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
It's like what we saw with covid or somehow people
were making horrible decisions, but nobody was ever responsible for
the decision because it was the system. I'm not sure
people even really hold Joe Biden as responsible for a
lot of this as they should, because they do recognize
that it's not really Biden doing this stuff a lot
of the time, it's whoever is closest to him in
the White House, who happens to have the portfolio that
(26:46):
you would think a president is the decider on, but
not this president. Well, I think this goes to the
failure of Joe Biden's sort of beginning of his campaign.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
They're going to hammer abortion. I don't think Bien large
that people are actually that terrified of abortion in general,
but that's what they're going to hammer and then they're
going to try to play what Joe Scarborough just argued,
and I think this is significant. Yeah, things might be bad.
We've got war in the Middle East, we've got war
(27:16):
in Europe. We've got a wide open southern border, we've
got twenty first century highs in in violent crime, we
have all of these embedded price and costs that are
so significant that everybody's paying way more for everything. But
it would be so much worse if Trump were in office.
(27:37):
And that's a tough argument to make when again, things
that Biden's actually responsible for, what can you point to
and say, hey, he's done a really good job with
that Virtually nothing, And that's why you have to argue
Trump would be worse. But when people have the perception
that things are bad, arguing that somebody else would be
(27:59):
worse is hard to do. It's like all these college
football coaches, buck and even an NFL coach got fired today,
which is rare in the NFL to get fired in season.
Sorry to the Carolina Panthers out there, Frank Reich is gone,
but things got so bad that nobody's willing to buy into. Oh,
if we fire the coach, things are going to get worse,
(28:20):
and I think that's a really difficult hurdle for the
Biden people to get over. Right now, now, as you
pointed about pointed out, maybe the economy starts to come
back up and we look better relative than where we were,
you know, at this point in time, by the time
November voting is here. But right now, that's tough. I mean,
the I remember very well as it was the first
(28:41):
presidential election that I covered, you know, not that I
was doing media work instead of working at the CIA,
And I remember Barack Obama had a very weak economy
and a very weak recovery going into the reelection of
twenty twelve, right, and somehow it became about all these
other things and personal affinity for the candidate, and it.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Didn't matter the worst. Remember this, somehow Barack Obama got reelected.
And I know when I'm saying somehow, there are people
that are shouting out all kinds of reasons, but I'm
just saying he was able to get reelected. Clay with
by the numbers, the worst recovery from a recession since
the end of World War two. Yeah, so really effectively
the worst recovery from a recession in American American modern
(29:27):
political history.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
And the guy gets reelected, so you.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
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to get to Romney. Yeah, we need to track down that.
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Welcome back in Buck, Sexton, Clay, Travis Buck. I'm doing
something on Wednesday that you probably never anticipated. I'm gonna
be walking the red carpet. The Daily Wire has got
a new movie. We were just watching it. They've released
a trailer, and I'll give you the premise. The premise
is that a group of guys decide they're going to
(31:51):
identify as women and compete for a women's basketball championship.
It's got a lot of the people that you've heard
on this program before.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Riley Gaines is in it.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I've got a I'm in it as a opposing basketball coach.
I'm a women's basketball coach trying to beat the men.
And they're having the premiere of the movie on Wednesday.
I think we have a fun cut for it.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
But this is and I talked to Jeremy about this,
and I think one of either Jeremy or Ben Shapiro
is going to come on the show to talk about it.
But he said this is exactly the kind of movie
that Hollywood would have made in the nineties. When I
was reading through the script, and I think it's going
to be pretty funny to ridicule. I mean, it's basically
Juwana man, right. The idea being that a man decides
(32:39):
to identify as a woman is actually comedically ridiculous and hysterical.
And South Park has made fun of this. But the
Left is so afraid of insulting trans people that they
pretend this issue doesn't exist. But I think this movie
is going to be funny. I think we got a cut.
Here's a little bit of it, and then I'll let
you react. Tell me what you think.
Speaker 11 (33:01):
In the world where women's sports, he's being transformed. The
Daily Wire calls foul with the most triggering comedy of
the year.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
This is the way the world is now. My eight
year old daughter told me all about it.
Speaker 10 (33:18):
So a guy can become a girl with no physical
changes at all.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
That's called chicken swimming.
Speaker 10 (33:24):
So I can be a woman on the court and
a man in the bedroom.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I can't believe it's nice. Do you mean when you're sleeping?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yes, we could dominate every woman's sport, running, swimming, soccer,
I fit sport, Felix.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Lady followers.
Speaker 10 (33:43):
One can even be transage now, which provides Sheliz with
a wonderful opportunity to relive all the experiences that she
missed out on in school.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
All right, I mean, buck, the concept is perfect, right,
I mean, it's really funny. I think it's all gonna
be like any film, It's all gonna be in the
in the execution, the trailer does look it looks promising
to me. Uh And I tip my hat the guys
the Daily Wire for for doing what a lot of
conservatives have been saying we needed to do for honestly
for decades, which is, you know, get engaged in the
(34:15):
culture in a more direct way. I mean, I know
you did this with sports at OutKick, but this is,
this is the only way if you're gonna rely on
the Netflix c suite to you know, stop making you know,
George Washington biopics or something where all of a sudden
everyone is you know, cast as a as a minority
or whatever. Right, I mean, this is if you're gonna
(34:37):
rely on the left to stop doing what they're never
gonna stop, so you might as well create your own,
you know, your own reality and your own culture. And
so I think, you know, this is this is a
step in the right direction. I will say, we'll have
them on to talk more about the movie for sure.
And have you seen Oppenheimer, Clay, No, I watched it.
(34:59):
I did not want any football over the holiday, but
I watched Oppenheimer. And I don't know, I'm not sure
where our audience is on this one, but I'm just
gonna lay it down either way. It was so ponderous
and self important and boring that it's one of those things.
Now when people tell me they liked Oppenheimer, I'm like,
I don't think I'm gonna take Movie Rex from you anymore.
(35:20):
The first hour you could have completely it's three hours long.
The first hour you could have cut out of the
movie entirely, right, You could have just gotten rid of it,
and you would have. The second hour is pretty good
when they actually do the nuclear test of the of
the bomb, right, that's actually well done and well executed.
And then the third hour is just, oh, my gosh,
red scare communism, McCarthyism. I don't know, maybe we need
(35:43):
to have like a I'll do like a separate podcast.
McCarthy was right about almost all of it. The communist
penetrations of our nuclear program were real. They make one
mention of it, one mention of it in the movie.
They're like, oh, yeah, this guy Klas Klaus, you know,
he stole some nuclear secrets. There are two people who
were executed, Julius N. F Ethl Rosenberg for giving nuclear
(36:05):
and rocket and other propulsion secrets to the song Clay,
What is it with Hollywood, not Evan Commis.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I'm not an expert on that.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
On that aspect of the story, I actually have thought
about going to see it. I just haven't. I didn't
see Barbie either. I did go see Napoleon. I went
to go see Napoleon on Wednesday night. I think that's
basically the night that it came out. I win, Yeah,
I went with my in law as I took my
fifteen year old. I didn't like it. I wanted to
(36:35):
like it so much. It was just I thought they
took Napoleon. First of all, Jokin Phoenix did not I think,
play Napoleon very interestingly. And I thought they super neutered him.
They took away what not that I'm an expert on Napoleon,
but they took away what made him supremely interesting. There
was no charisma, there was no uh, there was no panache.
(36:59):
And I thought they just made it kind of plotting
and boring. I mean, I think Napoleon honestly should be
a streaming series because his life is so impressive and
long and so many twisting turns.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
A lot of people argue one of the five most
brilliant generals tactically of all time and with a Napoleonic Code,
really the father of the modern French state. It's kind
of a big deal. Yeah, and it did not come across.
He seemed like kind of a loser in this movie.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
I thought, Wow, Slaye Travis and Buck Sexton on the
front lines of truth.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back everybody from Thanksgiving holiday Clay in Buck time.
We got much to discuss with you, play. Thank you
for holding down the fort making sure there's plenty of
turkey to go around in my absence. I will say,
I think I might have hit the limit for how
much weight one could gain in forty eight hours.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I went, I went all in in the paint. My friend,
did you weigh yourself? Did you actually weigh yourself?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Play? Of course not. I don't weigh myself to the
new year, my friend.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I know there's a lot of nervousness for people getting
out of the shower this morning, you know, starting off
return to work schedule. That scale is there, and a
lot of apprehensive glances in that direction.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So we're definitely in recovery from Thanksgiving feast, from the
food comas that people may have fallen into. I hope
you all had an absolutely fantastic one. And look, we
basically have a bit of a sprint between now and
the Christmas holiday at the end of the year and
Hanukkah and the New Year's and then we're just in
(01:07):
the thick of the political cycle. You know, we're we're
what forty nine days out right? Forty nine days or
thinks that's basically it.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, I think it's whatever we call it.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We'll call it just under fifty because that's under fifty
for the first votes to be cast. So this is
all going to be happening very quickly. We'll have updates
for you on that one. They're starting to, I think,
turn the machinery of destruction and defamation against Donald Trump
more and more on the left. I think they're already
(01:37):
starting to try to get in early an early look
at their Trump Arrangement syndrome mechanisms. I think they're trying
to get them fired up as quickly as they can.
So we'll talk about that. Some other interesting stuff going on.
We have New York retailers lost four point four billion
due to organized shoplifting in twenty twenty two. That's not
(02:00):
even just eazy off the cuff or sort of on
the fly shoplifting. That's organized retail theft, which is really
just a form of organized crime.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Everybody probably start calling it that.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Uneasy about people walking in at night near their home.
Nationwide is at a thirty year high. According to Gallup,
I thought that was some unsettling but important data we
can dive into later on in the show. But Clay,
I know we've also got the shots that people are
not getting. You'll give us those numbers in a little bit.
But people are not getting COVID shots, which is so
(02:31):
strange because I remember two years ago, if you wouldn't
get the COVID shot, you were like a monster.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
You're a horrible person. That's what they told us.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
But first off, there's some breaking news just today. So
the truth between Israel and Hamas is going to be
extended for two days, and on Sunday, Hamas released the
third group of hostages. This was just yesterday, so it's
been three different hostages releases as of yesterday, and now
there's an agreement to extend with more hostages released. So
(03:01):
there's been this four day ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.
The ceasefire on Sunday for fourteen Israelis, including a four
year old who holds dual US citizenship, three Thai citizens,
thirty nine Palestinian prisoners set to be released by Israel
and Clay, you may have seen this one over the weekend.
(03:21):
This kind of goes to the politics of what's happening here,
what's going on the White House? This is the Washington
Post piece grapples with internal divisions on Israel, Gaza. Now
you raised this first on the show The White House. Apparently, well,
Joe Biden specifically apologized to a group this was just
(03:44):
reported yesterday in the Washington Post. Apologized to a group
of Muslim American leaders and said that he shouldn't have
doubted so strongly Hamas supplied casualty numbers. This is what
he says behind closed doors. Clay, I think the Democrats
are fine out.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
They can't have a both ways on this stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, And I think this is part of the major
obstacle that exists for Joe Biden's reelection is the identity
politics world that Democrats created, where you view everything through
the prism of race oppression. The idea that white men
are evil is falling down all around them. And you know,
(04:23):
Trump was kind of their boogeyman, the great Satan, that
they could rely upon uniting all of their identity politics coalition.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I don't think that's working very well. Buck.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And it's not only that Biden is facing internal divisions
inside of his own inside of his own tent. It's
that many people black, White, Asian and Hispanic who otherwise
bought into what Joe Biden sold in twenty twenty, increasingly,
I think are getting red pilled in real time. And
I talked over this holiday with a variety of different
(04:59):
people who are Jewish, who are all different political persuasions,
and this is a national international red pill moment for
many of them. And for those of you out there
who are not familiar with the concept of the red pill.
You know, it's a phrase of metaphor that took on
a lot of power in the last seven or eight years.
(05:20):
I would say where if you remember the movie The Matrix,
you make a choice, if you want to see the
take the red pill. Then you see how deep everything goes.
It's the neo character suddenly becomes aware of the simulation
in which he is his living. And I think there's
a lot of you out there that are similar to me.
Now you have also a lot of buck Sexton's out
there in the world who when they were twelve years
(05:43):
old were reading William F. Buckley and nodding along and
as that is all that is, certainly as one does
that is certainly a not insubstantial portion of this audience,
But I think there's a lot of people like me too,
who just kind of slowly, as you aged, looked around
and said, man, a lot of this stuff is not
adding up. And I've heard from so many Jewish people,
(06:05):
and I'm sure that a lot of you are listening
to us right now who October seventh was and the
resulting aftermath of October seventh and the reaction was for
them a crystallizing moment that they suddenly became aware, wait
a minute, we're not really on the same team anymore.
And I think a lot of you out there probably
had conversations with kids and grandkids coming home from college campuses,
(06:27):
and some of those I bet we're uncomfortable because your
kids are telling you that Jews are the bad guy here,
and you're having to explain to them that despite the
fact that they're ostensibly highly educated, they've been very susceptible
to being told and taught untruths. And so I think
this is what Joe Biden is reconciling. When you have
huge support from Jews and Muslims in your twenty twenty election,
(06:50):
this is not an issue you can third weigh it,
you're either on the side of good or evil.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Hamas is evil.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
The Jews are in this situation good, and it's not
a difficult decision for most people.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I don't know if there's been a time since the
since the real thick of the COVID madness of the
Biden regime, that I've had so many people reach out
who listen to this show, whether just people who listen,
or even friends of mine from from earlier in life
that I haven't heard from in years, who just say
I just want to know. Say thank NEANXT to me
(07:20):
and to you for just speaking with moral clarity on
this issue, because I think this is a moment of
moral clarity. I think that people who don't see it
as such are confused or worse. I think confused is
the best thing that you could try to say about it,
And certainly in this meeting today with Benjamin Netan Yahoo
and Elon Musk And as an aside, I've been reading
(07:44):
the Walter Isaacson Elon. It's excellent, really really, I mean
it's super readable. So I was flying through that. That
was what I was reading over the holiday. So I'll
probably be dropping some Elon Musk knowledge in the weeks ahead.
Fascinating guy and we should have him on the show.
By the way, we got to get him on the show.
But anyway, back to moral clarity, back to the fight
against Amas, Benjamin and Yahoo meeting with Elon Musk. Listen
(08:05):
to what is the Israeli Prime Minister has to say,
play five.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
If you want peace, destroy Klamas. If you want security,
destroy Lamas. If you want a better life for the
Palestinians in Gaza been hijacked by Hamas, destroy Kamas. All
of that is a precursor to the question that you asked.
You first have to get rid of the poisonous regime,
(08:31):
as you did in Germany, as you did in Japan. Yeah,
in World War two, these were two. There's no choice,
there's no choice, So there's preerequds.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yes, that is the point of clarity here. Okay, we
can talk about ceasefires and negotiations, and we can certainly
have conversations about ways to mitigate although elimination is not
possible and that's an impossible standard, but to mitigate Palestinian
casualties in Gaza. But the mission set here is clear,
and this is what these two individuals as Benjamin et
(09:00):
Yahu Nielon Musk are agreeing on. The mission set is
the destruction and elimination of Hamas as an entity, which
means it's leadership is either captured or killed, and it's
you know, it's primary cells and fighter groups, mechanisms, et cetera.
Are taken off the battlefield. That's it. Otherwise Hamas gets
away with it and continues this and that's unacceptable. Well,
(09:22):
and to some extent, Hamas is getting away with the
taking of the hostages. They're being rewarded for stealing and
holding two hundred and forty Jewish people in captivity for
the last almost fifty days and beyond because they're getting
a three to one return. Is my understanding of hostages,
(09:43):
that is Israel is giving back three for everyone they get.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
In the past.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And this always goes to the respect for life that
the Israeli people and Israeli regime is rooted in. Not
saying it's perfect, but it is rooted in respect for life,
protection of life. Clay that in the past there have
been far bigger You know that the Israelis will swap
hundreds for one of their own. They will do prisoner
(10:09):
releases out of prison of terrorists if they need to
save the lives of one of their own. Now that's
always very difficult. Right now we say we don't negotiate
with terrorists. I used to work in CIICTC. I can
tell you that what the government has done, especially in
the Obama administration, was negotiate with terrorists a whole heck
of a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I'll also say this, buck. You notice how every time
there's actually peril or danger in the world, biology becomes
real again. You know who's getting released? Women and children
first there. It's amazing how when there are times apparel.
Look at Ukraine, I believe them. The numbers are every
man under the age of sixty has been drafted. Now
(10:49):
there are some women who have been fighting, but you're
not allowed to leave the country of Ukraine. I don't
think legally if you're under the age of sixty. And
to my understanding, no men have been released at all.
You've probably seen that meme of the Titanic going down
where the bad guy is rushing towards the lifeboats, and
you know there's the picture it says women in.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
The Billy Zain character, he was he was so good
in Titanic. I got to so good, so good as
a bad guy. But you know, there's a meme of
him trying to rush to the life boats and it
says women and children first, and immediately the Billy's ain character,
obviously this is made up, screams, I'm transu, which is
which is very funny.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
And have you seen that memes?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Oh it's great, so good, women and children first, he screams,
I'm trans uh. But women and children are being released first.
And whenever there's a Ukraine, what do they do pass
out guns to the men and say, hey, if you
leave the country, we're gonna shoot you. You better go
get on the front lines and fight.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Being concerned with what a man is or what a
woman is is a luxury of extremely wealthy peacetime reality
that the vast majority of the world does not engage
in this subterfuge, in this absurdity, And I always think
it just kind of brings back home biological reality every
time I see the headline, you know, more women and
children are being really certainly, wont all the Americans and
(12:07):
all of the Israelis back healthy, But so far it's
only women and children that are being released. But I
also just just point out, Clay that we talked about
moral clarity, and I'm not saying there aren't areas of complexity.
And you can get into the historical back and forth
over Israel and Palestine and what happened in forty eight
(12:28):
and what happened in sixty seven and what happened in
the Young Keeper War, and you know, sure there's a
ton of complexity. People spend their whole lives, but there
are areas of true and critical moral clarity that we
have seen. Right, if you go in and kill and
kill fourteen hundred people because and do it in the
way that the Palestinians did civilians, you're the bad guy. Yes,
(12:51):
I mean, I know that we're not supposed to think
in these very straightforward terms, but we need to think
in these very straightforward terms. And I just think of
the four year old Gail more e Don who is
a little four year old girl. She holds dual US citizenship, okay,
with Israeli citizenship, so she's a US citizen and Israeli citizen.
(13:11):
How can you not know you're the bad guy when
you're holding a four year old girl hostage?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It's not possible because there are Hamas people now, you
know people I know the Hamas apologists will say, well,
look they kept her alive, you know as ooh, we're
supposed to be thankful they didn't murder a four year
old girl after murdering a lot of children and babies before.
But it's not like this isn't this is beyond them.
They are absolutely capable and have shown us that they
are willing to engage in that level of barbarity. But
(13:37):
when you're taking four year old girls hostage because you
have a political gripe, you're you're the bad guy and
you need to catch a hell fire missile in the face.
That's the truth. It's one hundred percent the truth. And
also it's terrifying how many people in America can no
longer recognize that there is good and evil and call
out evil when they see it, especially because they've been
(13:59):
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Speaker 3 (15:24):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. So I
was driving for like eight or nine hours as many
of you were over the holiday weekend on Sunday, so
I primarily listened to the NFL on a radio and whatnot.
I was also not plugged in on my phone like
I ordinarily would be, so I didn't even see this,
(15:47):
but evidently they had a fire alarm during the NFL
Red Zone. Listen to this cut twenty I believe.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Well, ladies and gentlemen, this is a first in my
twenty something year broadcasting career. We have an alarm going
off in the studios of NFL Red Zone right now
in our studios here in Inglewood, California, we are being
told we need to evacuate the building.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
We do not know the nature of the emergency.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
You can probably hear the alarm going right over the
top of my right shoulder here, as it is something
absolutely unprecedented for us.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
They take no commercial breaks and they jump from one
NFL game to another. Now, listeners may not know this,
but this happened to Buck in his apartment building in Miami.
It started to go off like with fifteen minutes left
in the show or whatever, and Buck, you just had
to tap out.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I don't even know that.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We hardly mentioned it at the time, but that has
happened on this show. Also, did you watch forty one
million people watched the Dallas Cowboys on Thanksgiving? I think
it's the third most watched NFL regulars in game ever.
But did you watch any football with your brothers over
(17:05):
Thanksgiving weekend? I did not, not one minute. I did
not watch one minute of football over the weekend. No,
what percentage of our audience do you think didn't watch
one minute of football this weekend at all? Well, let
me just first say I think our audience appreciates that
I keep it real. Buck keeps it real. I don't
(17:25):
just come on here and say I don't know about
the sports ball things. I do not go home and
watch the sport. I did accidentally tune in last night.
There was an overtime thing that was very interesting with
the Eagles and another team.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
The goals and the Bills went to overtime. But that
was accidental. But I was like, well, it's like the
last play and someone's gonna win. So I turned that
on for a second. Ali producer, who was still with
her family up in Massachusetts. She says she did not
watch a minute either.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So I would bet five percent of our audience maybe
maybe ten percent didn't watch a single moment. I mean
just walking in from the kitchen. You would think it
would be almost impossible to avoid in general, but intentionally
Buck managed to do it.
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Cleet Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
As for the other Americans that we believe are in captivity,
being held hostage, we don't have a whole lot of
information about them, where they are, what condition they might
be in, or what exactly the schedule would be for
their release. That said, as you heard the President say
over the weekend, we're going to keep working at this
hour by hour, and we certainly have every hope that
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when these four days are over with and the original agreement.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Is done, that.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
HAMAS will be able to come up with more hostages
in coming days to allow that pause to continue and
allow more people to get out.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
So that's the National Security Council spokesman for the Biden
regime here, and he's certainly more aware of what's go
going on than the commander in chief. Officially speaking, Joe Biden,
when asked about American hostages being released, this has cut seven.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
This is what he had to.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
Say, mister President, do you have an update on the
other Americans for being held at any sense as to
when they would be reliefed.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
We are hopeful, but I don't have anything firmly to
tell you.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
At this moment.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
Have you extracted any guarantees about proof of laying or
other hostages or do you have an expectation of how
much longer you could push it?
Speaker 11 (20:34):
A boss?
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Well, look, you know the deal calls for ever for
every ten hostage release to extend another day. So I'm
hopeful this is not the end. It's going to continue,
but we don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So Clay, you have a Biden administration that is in
the midst of trying to, at least domestically politically play
it both ways a bit, you know, Oh don't. I
don't want to seem like I'm being too harsh on
Hamas because that somehow is being too harsh on the Palestinians.
And there are forever victims. There are always the victims,
(21:08):
even when they're victimizing other people. And then you also
have the Democrat media chorus out there. This is cut nine,
this is Joe Scarborough. While this is happening in the
aftermath of the biggest mass casualty terror attack since nine
to eleven, approximately fourteen hundred is rareleies, rerually murdered by
(21:29):
Hamas terrorists. And the word you'll hear the approach, the
talking point that you'll hear from Democrats is oh, but
things would be so much worse if Biden wasn't president,
you know, if like Trump were president.
Speaker 10 (21:43):
Play nine, the crisis we're going through right now, where
the world could really spiral into World War three, but
it's not because a guy who's actually had fifty years
of experience.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
It shows the contrast.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
Between a guy obsessed with marketing his brand, a guy
obsessed with gestures, a guy who governed by gesture, versus
well Joe Biden, who has fifty years of experience, and
when a deal go sideways on the hostages, he can
pick up the phone, he can call, he can get
(22:15):
it done.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
This is truly delusional.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
First of all, the claye the elevation of Biden as
some tactician like some tally Rand or Metternicht or you know,
some skilled international operator. Joe Biden's a buffoon on foreign policy,
and it's been known for forty years. But beyond that,
this is like saying that the world would be worse
off if Biden weren't president, would be like someone who
(22:40):
the house is burning down on his watch, who's saying, Hey,
if I wasn't here, guys, the house across the street
would be burning down too.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
I don't think that's very compelling.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, and I wonder I mean, Alex Ditdton the invite.
I think I said this last week when Joe Scarborough
said that the president was going to be Trump, if
he were president, would be executing his political opponents. Do
you think Joe Scarborough is a dumb man or do
you think he has just become comfortable being a propagandist
(23:12):
for idiocy. I think that he is utterly and completely
bereft of any ethical compunction with what he will say
for the MSNBC audience. Whatever gets it done. Those paychecks
the guys paid millions, they flow in.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
He does. He's a former Republican. Everybody a Republican member of.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Congress representing where I just came from the Panhandle of Florida,
so I spent my Thanksgiving. By the way, he met
a lot of our listeners. I did a book signing
in Rosemary Beach, Florida, where we have a place. Just
absolutely love it down there, but it is one of
the best places in America. So the idea that Joe
Scarborough could go from a Republican member of Congress to
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shilling for Joe Biden. And look, if you want to argue.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
That Trump is not the right choice, or and we
probably need to play Mitt Romney at some point, who
is talking about an utter disgrace and failure. But if
you want to argue that Trump is not the right choice,
there's a big percentage of people out there listening right
now who are all in on Ron DeSantis and Nicky
Haley and maybe Vivek Chris Christy. You feel like there
(24:21):
is a far better option than Trump. I could accept
that argument, right, That is a valid position to have
as we come into the primary season. It's not crazy,
you know. I think that you can have an argument
that Nicky Haley or Rond DeSantis would win even more
than Trump would. I don't know that I'd buy it,
but I think you can make that argument. I don't
(24:43):
see how at all, given where Joe Biden is, that
you can be arguing things would be so much worse.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
If Biden were not in office.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I mean, again, we played this game before, Buck and
I think it's such an interesting question because it flips
it on his head. What has Biden done well? What
would you point to in the three plus years that
Biden has been in office and say, boy, you know,
he's really handled that well. Regardless of your politics, Usually,
if you're a Republican, you can point to something that
(25:12):
a Democrat's done and say, hey, you know, I might
not agree with everything, but he did this, and vice versa.
You're a Republican, you're a Democrat, and Republicans in office
you can point to something and say, hey, I don't
agree with the guy on a lot of What can
you even point to and say, you know, on this issue,
Joe Biden has done a really good job. I legitimately
(25:34):
can't even think of anything in this country that is
better today than it was when Joe Biden came into office.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I will say I think that it almost works to
his benefit that the expectations are so low that for
anyone to think that he really is responsible for almost
any of these decisions in a meaningful way. I think
it's largely the perception of those at least paying attention
to politics country that the people around Joe Biden, his advisors,
(26:03):
and everyone else are making the calls and we've talked
about the third term of Obama and how there's top
Obama advisors in Obama himself weighing in on these things,
and that's a matter of record, that's not just some
conspiracy theory. I think that's all a part of it.
And I just think that the expectations are so low
for Biden in decision making that.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
It almost diffuses.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
It's like what we saw with covid or somehow people
were making horrible decisions, but nobody was ever responsible for
the decision because it was the system. I'm not sure
people even really hold Joe Biden as responsible for a
lot of this as they should, because they do recognize
that it's not really Biden doing this stuff a lot
of the time, it's whoever is closest to him in
the White House, who happens to have the portfolio that
(26:46):
you would think a president is the decider on, but
not this president. Well, I think this goes to the
failure of Joe Biden's sort of beginning of his campaign.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
They're going to hammer abortion. I don't think Bien large
that people are actually that terrified of abortion in general,
but that's what they're going to hammer and then they're
going to try to play what Joe Scarborough just argued,
and I think this is significant. Yeah, things might be bad.
We've got war in the Middle East, we've got war
(27:16):
in Europe. We've got a wide open southern border, we've
got twenty first century highs in in violent crime, we
have all of these embedded price and costs that are
so significant that everybody's paying way more for everything. But
it would be so much worse if Trump were in office.
(27:37):
And that's a tough argument to make when again, things
that Biden's actually responsible for, what can you point to
and say, hey, he's done a really good job with
that Virtually nothing, And that's why you have to argue
Trump would be worse. But when people have the perception
that things are bad, arguing that somebody else would be
(27:59):
worse is hard to do. It's like all these college
football coaches, buck and even an NFL coach got fired today,
which is rare in the NFL to get fired in season.
Sorry to the Carolina Panthers out there, Frank Reich is gone,
but things got so bad that nobody's willing to buy into. Oh,
if we fire the coach, things are going to get worse,
(28:20):
and I think that's a really difficult hurdle for the
Biden people to get over. Right now, now, as you
pointed about pointed out, maybe the economy starts to come
back up and we look better relative than where we were,
you know, at this point in time, by the time
November voting is here. But right now, that's tough. I mean,
the I remember very well as it was the first
(28:41):
presidential election that I covered, you know, not that I
was doing media work instead of working at the CIA,
And I remember Barack Obama had a very weak economy
and a very weak recovery going into the reelection of
twenty twelve, right, and somehow it became about all these
other things and personal affinity for the candidate, and it.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Didn't matter the worst. Remember this, somehow Barack Obama got reelected.
And I know when I'm saying somehow, there are people
that are shouting out all kinds of reasons, but I'm
just saying he was able to get reelected. Clay with
by the numbers, the worst recovery from a recession since
the end of World War two. Yeah, so really effectively
the worst recovery from a recession in American American modern
(29:27):
political history.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
And the guy gets reelected, so you.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Know, you know why because he ran against Mitt friggin' Romney. Well, worst,
we need to tea all thought. Next hour, we need
to get to Romney. Yeah, we need to track down that.
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Speaker 3 (31:29):
Welcome back in Buck, Sexton, Clay, Travis Buck. I'm doing
something on Wednesday that you probably never anticipated. I'm gonna
be walking the red carpet. The Daily Wire has got
a new movie. We were just watching it. They've released
a trailer, and I'll give you the premise. The premise
is that a group of guys decide they're going to
(31:51):
identify as women and compete for a women's basketball championship.
It's got a lot of the people that you've heard
on this program before.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Riley Gaines is in it.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I've got a I'm in it as a opposing basketball coach.
I'm a women's basketball coach trying to beat the men.
And they're having the premiere of the movie on Wednesday.
I think we have a fun cut for it.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
But this is and I talked to Jeremy about this,
and I think one of either Jeremy or Ben Shapiro
is going to come on the show to talk about it.
But he said this is exactly the kind of movie
that Hollywood would have made in the nineties. When I
was reading through the script, and I think it's going
to be pretty funny to ridicule. I mean, it's basically
Juwana man, right. The idea being that a man decides
(32:39):
to identify as a woman is actually comedically ridiculous and hysterical.
And South Park has made fun of this. But the
Left is so afraid of insulting trans people that they
pretend this issue doesn't exist. But I think this movie
is going to be funny. I think we got a cut.
Here's a little bit of it, and then I'll let
you react. Tell me what you think.
Speaker 11 (33:01):
In the world where women's sports, he's being transformed. The
Daily Wire calls foul with the most triggering comedy of
the year.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
This is the way the world is now. My eight
year old daughter told me all about it.
Speaker 10 (33:18):
So a guy can become a girl with no physical
changes at all.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
That's called chicken swimming.
Speaker 10 (33:24):
So I can be a woman on the court and
a man in the bedroom.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I can't believe it's nice. Do you mean when you're sleeping?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yes, we could dominate every woman's sport, running, swimming, soccer,
I fit sport, Felix.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Lady followers.
Speaker 10 (33:43):
One can even be transage now, which provides Sheliz with
a wonderful opportunity to relive all the experiences that she
missed out on in school.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
All right, I mean, buck, the concept is perfect, right,
I mean, it's really funny. I think it's all gonna
be like any film, It's all gonna be in the
in the execution, the trailer does look it looks promising
to me. Uh And I tip my hat the guys
the Daily Wire for for doing what a lot of
conservatives have been saying we needed to do for honestly
for decades, which is, you know, get engaged in the
(34:15):
culture in a more direct way. I mean, I know
you did this with sports at OutKick, but this is,
this is the only way if you're gonna rely on
the Netflix c suite to you know, stop making you know,
George Washington biopics or something where all of a sudden
everyone is you know, cast as a as a minority
or whatever. Right, I mean, this is if you're gonna
(34:37):
rely on the left to stop doing what they're never
gonna stop, so you might as well create your own,
you know, your own reality and your own culture. And
so I think, you know, this is this is a
step in the right direction. I will say, we'll have
them on to talk more about the movie for sure.
And have you seen Oppenheimer, Clay, No, I watched it.
(34:59):
I did not want any football over the holiday, but
I watched Oppenheimer. And I don't know, I'm not sure
where our audience is on this one, but I'm just
gonna lay it down either way. It was so ponderous
and self important and boring that it's one of those things.
Now when people tell me they liked Oppenheimer, I'm like,
I don't think I'm gonna take Movie Rex from you anymore.
(35:20):
The first hour you could have completely it's three hours long.
The first hour you could have cut out of the
movie entirely, right, You could have just gotten rid of it,
and you would have. The second hour is pretty good
when they actually do the nuclear test of the of
the bomb, right, that's actually well done and well executed.
And then the third hour is just, oh, my gosh,
red scare communism, McCarthyism. I don't know, maybe we need
(35:43):
to have like a I'll do like a separate podcast.
McCarthy was right about almost all of it. The communist
penetrations of our nuclear program were real. They make one
mention of it, one mention of it in the movie.
They're like, oh, yeah, this guy Klas Klaus, you know,
he stole some nuclear secrets. There are two people who
were executed, Julius N. F Ethl Rosenberg for giving nuclear
(36:05):
and rocket and other propulsion secrets to the song Clay,
What is it with Hollywood, not Evan Commis.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I'm not an expert on that.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
On that aspect of the story, I actually have thought
about going to see it. I just haven't. I didn't
see Barbie either. I did go see Napoleon. I went
to go see Napoleon on Wednesday night. I think that's
basically the night that it came out. I win, Yeah,
I went with my in law as I took my
fifteen year old. I didn't like it. I wanted to
(36:35):
like it so much. It was just I thought they
took Napoleon. First of all, Jokin Phoenix did not I think,
play Napoleon very interestingly. And I thought they super neutered him.
They took away what not that I'm an expert on Napoleon,
but they took away what made him supremely interesting. There
was no charisma, there was no uh, there was no panache.
(36:59):
And I thought they just made it kind of plotting
and boring. I mean, I think Napoleon honestly should be
a streaming series because his life is so impressive and
long and so many twisting turns.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
A lot of people argue one of the five most
brilliant generals tactically of all time and with a Napoleonic Code,
really the father of the modern French state. It's kind
of a big deal. Yeah, and it did not come across.
He seemed like kind of a loser in this movie.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
I thought, Wow, Slaye Travis and Buck Sexton on the
front lines of truth.
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